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Billingsley26
07-12-2007, 03:25 PM
What r Poz's chances of starting?, cuz im thinkin bout goin tha buffalo fer a game if Poz is startin

Hes got the MLB position locked up. Pick a a game yo u want to see him and go. He'll be in the middle making plays.

SuperKevin
07-12-2007, 03:29 PM
Hes got the MLB position locked up. Pick a a game yo u want to see him and go. He'll be in the middle making plays.

I hear the Bills are favoring DiGiorgio as the starter to kick off the season but with Poz playing a lot of snaps as a reserve

Billingsley26
07-12-2007, 03:31 PM
I hear the Bills are favoring DiGiorgio as the starter to kick off the season but with Poz playing a lot of snaps as a reserve

I certainly hope not!!!

SuperKevin
07-12-2007, 03:35 PM
I certainly hope not!!!

He knows the system better and it wouldn't be long before Poz took over anyway so if DiGiorgio starts the 1st 2-3 games it's not a HUGE deal

HoopsDemon12
07-12-2007, 04:32 PM
He knows the system better and it wouldn't be long before Poz took over anyway so if DiGiorgio starts the 1st 2-3 games it's not a HUGE deal

ya by the end of the season Puz will be starting in that middle... so its just a matter of time really

HoopsDemon12
07-16-2007, 09:17 PM
anyone on here angry that we are tied for the worst rating in madden with teh raiders and texans.....

SuperKevin
07-17-2007, 04:24 PM
We also have the worst odds to win the superbowl according to Vegas at 100:1

HoopsDemon12
07-17-2007, 06:32 PM
Why is everyone hating on us this year... its not like we got that much worse.. i mean we lost some good guys on defence... but were not hte worst team at all

Billingsley26
07-17-2007, 11:49 PM
Why is everyone hating on us this year... its not like we got that much worse.. i mean we lost some good guys on defence... but were not hte worst team at all

I honeslty think we GOT ALOT BETTER. The OL was greatly improved, the RB situation was GREATLY improved, personally the LB situation is improved to me. I think that Pos will be miles higher than Fletcher was. Bigger guy, better tackler and better in coverage. I love Crowell and think hes better than Spikes (i think Spikes wont be that great this year) and Ellison, im stoked for the LB's.

The DB's, well CB's in particular took a step backwards this offseason. So if you ask me, OL, TE (TE because with the upgrade of OL, TE will be able to release), RB and LB all got better, and we only lost out at CB. Not bad at all to me. Im really stoked about this season, I have a feeling like I havent had for years.

The Dynasty
07-20-2007, 07:29 PM
didnt know where to go with this. But its 800x600, Thought i share it. I made it for my cousin.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r60/dynasty9889/LeeEvansBG.jpg

SuperMcGee
07-24-2007, 05:24 PM
Wendling signs.

I like him and Leonhard as the backups, I really like both of them and Leonhard is a really good option for extra secondary sets.

HoopsDemon12
07-24-2007, 06:31 PM
Wendling signs.

I like him and Leonhard as the backups, I really like both of them and Leonhard is a really good option for extra secondary sets.

i really like our safety situation.. i think wendling will show to be one of the steals from this draft

fischbowl
07-24-2007, 07:46 PM
Fast Freddy Smith was brought back with a waiver claim from NE.

Johnny Quinn was released :(

Billingsley26
07-24-2007, 09:21 PM
Anyone able to back me up on this.

All I keep reading about the Bills are how they wont be able to stop the run this year. Well, they did a pretty dismal job last year with the likes of Fletcher, Spikes and Crowell. No knock on those guys, but it wasnt nice. The DL hasnt changed at all. Unless Darwin Walker reports. And all I can say is that another year under the belts of Kyle Williams and John Mccargo can only help. As for LB, Im satisfied with Angelo Crowel play the Sam, and Keith Ellison playing the Will, and I cant wait to see Pos as the Mac. He is much more agile, bigger and can fight off blocks better than Flethcer ever could. And I think once he settles in there as the starter in the middle, this defense will be allright. The secondary is fine with the exception of the LCB spot. This is to me, the biggest loss of the off-season. But it happens, and I think that Ashton Youboty will be a solid player, once given time to play. As for now, Webster and Thomas are a big question mark. Webster is small and injury prone, and Thomas to me is nothing more than a nickle-back at best. I would consider starting Youboty.

This is how I feel regarding the defense right now. I think that run defense can and will be better this year. Obvioulsy there is always room for improvement, but I feel that there will be improvement from this past season. The mini-camps looked good to me. And I think the defense as a whole will play well this year.


P.S If you liked this analysis, then I may write one up for the offensive side of the ball.

Iamcanadian
07-25-2007, 10:10 AM
Anyone able to back me up on this.

All I keep reading about the Bills are how they wont be able to stop the run this year. Well, they did a pretty dismal job last year with the likes of Fletcher, Spikes and Crowell. No knock on those guys, but it wasnt nice. The DL hasnt changed at all. Unless Darwin Walker reports. And all I can say is that another year under the belts of Kyle Williams and John Mccargo can only help. As for LB, Im satisfied with Angelo Crowel play the Sam, and Keith Ellison playing the Will, and I cant wait to see Pos as the Mac. He is much more agile, bigger and can fight off blocks better than Flethcer ever could. And I think once he settles in there as the starter in the middle, this defense will be allright. The secondary is fine with the exception of the LCB spot. This is to me, the biggest loss of the off-season. But it happens, and I think that Ashton Youboty will be a solid player, once given time to play. As for now, Webster and Thomas are a big question mark. Webster is small and injury prone, and Thomas to me is nothing more than a nickle-back at best. I would consider starting Youboty.

This is how I feel regarding the defense right now. I think that run defense can and will be better this year. Obvioulsy there is always room for improvement, but I feel that there will be improvement from this past season. The mini-camps looked good to me. And I think the defense as a whole will play well this year.


P.S If you liked this analysis, then I may write one up for the offensive side of the ball.

I think our defense is definitely suspect not only in talent but when you subtract all that veteran leadership, it will show on the field. People tend to look at talent alone and forget the leadership part of football which is so important on contending teams.
Our schedule is very tough and with so much veteran talent moving on, it could be a long season. We have to pray that the offense will improve enough to make up for our defensive imaturity. I don't expect any improvement in our record.

Leon Sandcastle
07-25-2007, 11:08 AM
Dwayne Wright signs.

Bills offer Darwin Walker a new contract.

Aaron Brown released.

Paul Posluszny and Marshawn Lynch rumored to be next.

Marv Levy praises Roscoe Parrish on WGR Radio.

SuperMcGee
07-25-2007, 02:00 PM
Posluszny signed. I'm only getting undisclosed so far, but it was expected to be 4 years.

SuperMcGee
07-26-2007, 10:50 PM
LYNCH DEAL DONE
A league source tells us that the Bills have reached an agreement with running back Marshawn Lynch, the No. 12 selection in the 2007 draft. (Adam Schefter of NFL (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm#) Network was the first to report this.)
Lynch will receive $10,285,000 in guaranteed money, and the total value of the package is $18,935,000 on a five-year deal. (Technically, it's a six-year deal that voids to five if Lynch meets a minimum playing time threshold.)
The key is the duration; Lynch is the fourth player taken in the top 16 who could have been required to sign a six-year deal, but who got in the end a five-year contract.
The former California tailback is expected to step in immediately as the starter, given the offseason trade of Willis McGahee.

Billingsley26
07-27-2007, 01:00 AM
LYNCH DEAL DONE
A league source tells us that the Bills have reached an agreement with running back Marshawn Lynch, the No. 12 selection in the 2007 draft. (Adam Schefter of NFL (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm#) Network was the first to report this.)
Lynch will receive $10,285,000 in guaranteed money, and the total value of the package is $18,935,000 on a five-year deal. (Technically, it's a six-year deal that voids to five if Lynch meets a minimum playing time threshold.)
The key is the duration; Lynch is the fourth player taken in the top 16 who could have been required to sign a six-year deal, but who got in the end a five-year contract.
The former California tailback is expected to step in immediately as the starter, given the offseason trade of Willis McGahee.

GREAT NEWS!! Thats it for the draft picks. Good to see that they will all be reporting to training camp. Im telling you guys, I am feeling really good about this. Ive told you this before and I will continue to say it. For a while now Ive felt that the Bills needed to get a HC in there who has exprience and has on before. I like Jauron, and hes won in Chicago and has been around as aHC before. Marv LEvy's name should be enough right there. Do you feel the magic in the air?!

SuperMcGee
07-27-2007, 01:35 PM
Josh Reed at it again...


In the first play of 7-on-7 Terrence McGeehttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4974#) set the tone with a diving pass breakup on a Losman pass intended for Peerless Price. Two plays later a bobbled pass by Josh Reed was pulled out of the air by Keith Ellisonhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4974#) for an interception and what would have likely been a touchdown. Ellison now has three interceptions in as many practices.
Kiwaukee Thomashttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4974#) and Mario Hagganhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4974#) also successfully defended passes during the 7-on-7 segement.
In 11-on-11 team work Ko Simpsonhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4974#) broke up a pass intended for Robert Royalhttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4974#) and McGee knocked a ball from Lee Evanshttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4974#)' hands before he could secure it. Jason Webster also had a pass breakup on Price. But perhaps the most entertaining defensive play came on a reverse to Reed. Reed lost his footing and fumbled the ball and Kyle Williamshttp://buffalobills.com/images/relatedicon.gif (http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4974#) scooped it up and rumbled for the end zone. The play likely would have resulted in a touchdown.


:p

Good ol' Josh.

jkb528
07-28-2007, 01:17 AM
Yea, I saw that stuff about Josh Reed and it made me think "Here we go again...", but if you watch the highlights, especially from yesterday (7-27), he had some nice catches, especially a deep one from Losman where he beat McGee.

I also dont understand the hate the Bills are getting, but I just take comfort in knowing that we'll get the last laugh. I'm trying not to get my hopes up so much that they're unrealistic, but I'd be happy with an 8-8 season, and I think that's reasonable, because the offense has the chance to be VERY explosive this season. Doesn't Marshawn seem to have an extra gear that nobody else has???

Rob S
07-28-2007, 06:47 AM
josh reed always owns in camp.......unfortunatley in the season......well, we all know. BTW, just so u all know, I am going to make an effort to post more here (when I get back from vaca in 2 weeks) now that the season is upcoming.

Bills2083
07-28-2007, 09:27 AM
great article in the buffalo news

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/128895.html

Iamcanadian
07-28-2007, 10:30 AM
GREAT NEWS!! Thats it for the draft picks. Good to see that they will all be reporting to training camp. Im telling you guys, I am feeling really good about this. Ive told you this before and I will continue to say it. For a while now Ive felt that the Bills needed to get a HC in there who has exprience and has on before. I like Jauron, and hes won in Chicago and has been around as aHC before. Marv LEvy's name should be enough right there. Do you feel the magic in the air?!

Sorry, but as Levy indicated, the Bills make a lot of player decisions based on a below average budget and that is always going to limit their ability to compete. They continually have to use the draft to replace players who they let go because of financial restraints rather than using the draft to improve positions of weakness. Our owner is simply not in a position to spend money like most of the NFL franchises do. That is the main reason, we have such a terrible record over the last decade. HC's still need talent on their team to consistantly compete, otherwise winning seasons are few and far between.
It's sad that Buffalo has to operate like this but the reality is we simple don't have the financial resources to stay competitive.

Billingsley26
07-28-2007, 12:01 PM
Sorry, but as Levy indicated, the Bills make a lot of player decisions based on a below average budget and that is always going to limit their ability to compete. They continually have to use the draft to replace players who they let go because of financial restraints rather than using the draft to improve positions of weakness. Our owner is simply not in a position to spend money like most of the NFL franchises do. That is the main reason, we have such a terrible record over the last decade. HC's still need talent on their team to consistantly compete, otherwise winning seasons are few and far between.
It's sad that Buffalo has to operate like this but the reality is we simple don't have the financial resources to stay competitive.

Well, Im not sure if you are just an arm-chair fan or you really know the sport of football, but to be honest. Its not the team that has the most talent tht wins. Its the team that has the best people. Take New England last year. Two WR you have almost never heard of who have been cut repeatedly, a rookie RB and another RB who is aging. An unproven TE. There is no doubt that San Diego has better talent than New England in almost every position. Look at the Jets. I would take JP Losman over Pennington and Willis MCgahee over Chris Houston or Leon Washington. Yet they still made the playoffs. Why? Because the have the right people. Anyone wonder why Dallas didnt make it far last year? Take a guess.

If you play football or coach football you will understand that you need good players but not always the most talented players. What you need are the right players. Ever watch the movie "Miracle"? Herb Brooks at the try-outs said openly that hes not going to pick the best players, hes going to pick the right players. I think this holds true in football. And thats why I feel with the group the Bills have now, in a couple of years they could surprise many people.

jkb528
07-28-2007, 03:47 PM
Well, Im not sure if you are just an arm-chair fan or you really know the sport of football, but to be honest. Its not the team that has the most talent tht wins. Its the team that has the best people. Take New England last year. Two WR you have almost never heard of who have been cut repeatedly, a rookie RB and another RB who is aging. An unproven TE. There is no doubt that San Diego has better talent than New England in almost every position. Look at the Jets. I would take JP Losman over Pennington and Willis MCgahee over Chris Houston or Leon Washington. Yet they still made the playoffs. Why? Because the have the right people. Anyone wonder why Dallas didnt make it far last year? Take a guess.

If you play football or coach football you will understand that you need good players but not always the most talented players. What you need are the right players. Ever watch the movie "Miracle"? Herb Brooks at the try-outs said openly that hes not going to pick the best players, hes going to pick the right players. I think this holds true in football. And thats why I feel with the group the Bills have now, in a couple of years they could surprise many people.

Great post man. I'd also like to point out that the team is probably doing their best to save money now so that they can resign our young players in the comming years and keep our nucleus together, instead of bringing in high priced free agents. Dan Snyder doesnt have any problem spending money, but have the Redskins been significantly better than the Bills in recent years? I think not. We only have one starter on offense over 30, we're going to need all the cap room we're saving right now in order to keep our young stars together in the future.

Iamcanadian
07-29-2007, 01:33 PM
Well, Im not sure if you are just an arm-chair fan or you really know the sport of football, but to be honest. Its not the team that has the most talent tht wins. Its the team that has the best people. Take New England last year. Two WR you have almost never heard of who have been cut repeatedly, a rookie RB and another RB who is aging. An unproven TE. There is no doubt that San Diego has better talent than New England in almost every position. Look at the Jets. I would take JP Losman over Pennington and Willis MCgahee over Chris Houston or Leon Washington. Yet they still made the playoffs. Why? Because the have the right people. Anyone wonder why Dallas didnt make it far last year? Take a guess.

If you play football or coach football you will understand that you need good players but not always the most talented players. What you need are the right players. Ever watch the movie "Miracle"? Herb Brooks at the try-outs said openly that hes not going to pick the best players, hes going to pick the right players. I think this holds true in football. And thats why I feel with the group the Bills have now, in a couple of years they could surprise many people.

While I might agree that the right people are important, so is talent and your breakdown of teams is far too naive to take seriously. Movies aren't real life, Brooks may have looked for a certain player who fit his scheme but you can bet he didn't completely ignore talent when assembling his team.
Marv Levy has said publicly that his budget severely limits his ability to sign the players he wants whether they are the right people or just talented.
As our "right people" veterans become FA's, we are going to lose most of them just as we have in the past. That has been the Bill's problem for the last decade especially during the FA period of pro football. We simply haven't the financial resources to retain them.
Buffalo is one of the poorest franchises in the NFL and that has long reflected itself in our record. Yes, if we could retain our solid players and build from there, then we would eventually become very competitive but that simply isn't how our franchise operates in today's NFL.

Bills2083
07-29-2007, 02:51 PM
The Bills have traded Darwin Walker to the Bears

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4995

Bills2083
07-29-2007, 02:52 PM
we traded him for a 5th round pick

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2953545

Billingsley26
07-29-2007, 09:34 PM
While I might agree that the right people are important, so is talent and your breakdown of teams is far too naive to take seriously. Movies aren't real life, Brooks may have looked for a certain player who fit his scheme but you can bet he didn't completely ignore talent when assembling his team.
Marv Levy has said publicly that his budget severely limits his ability to sign the players he wants whether they are the right people or just talented.
As our "right people" veterans become FA's, we are going to lose most of them just as we have in the past. That has been the Bill's problem for the last decade especially during the FA period of pro football. We simply haven't the financial resources to retain them.
Buffalo is one of the poorest franchises in the NFL and that has long reflected itself in our record. Yes, if we could retain our solid players and build from there, then we would eventually become very competitive but that simply isn't how our franchise operates in today's NFL.

I understand exactly where your coming from. But im a big believer in Money doesnt buy you championships. For all the money the Yankees have spent, eclipsing the 200 million dollar cap sveral years ago, they havent won a world series in 5 years. the Florida Marlins with roughly 1/4 the payroll beat out the Yanks for the series. I dont think the Bills need to spend all that money to be successful in the league.

Lets see the guys they lost.
London Fletcher- I think we actually gained alot outta him leaving and having Paul Posluszny coming in. I didnt think much of Fletcher. Pos is bigger, stronger, faster, better tackler, better reader, better in coverage and bigger.
Takeo Spikes- We lost the emotional leader of our team, but he has barely been there the past two years. Great when he can play, but i dont see him getting back to his old self.
Nate Clements- Biggest loss, great corner, but was he the "right person" to pay that money to? Hell no. Not in the cover 2. I think we will see a drop from the RCB, but not as great as many make it out to be.
Willis Mcgahee- I think flat-out that even if we didnt get MArshawn Lynch or another RB, A-Train and Shaud Williams would be fine.
I dont consider Darwin Walker anymore because we never actually had him on the field.

As for the core that we drafted. Pos and Lynch are going to be stars and could easily win thier respected Rookie of the Years Awards. I think the neuleus that is there now is there for good. That is the oney they are saving up. I think with the way the OL is set, the development of Losman and Lynch in the backfield is awesome. I think they got the "right people" in there right now as well as management. I like the direction this team is heading in. I feel the have the talent to compete, may take a few games to get going, I think JP is going to step up and be the leader of the offense. I feel that Witner should step up, but wouldnt be surprised for Crowell or Pos in time.

Billingsley26
07-29-2007, 09:38 PM
BTW, John Murphy announced last night that Paul Posluszny will be the starting MLB on opening day for the Bills. Said Digiorgio gave him a real run and made Pos really work hard for it. But in the end Pos got it.

Iamcanadian
07-30-2007, 09:06 AM
I understand exactly where your coming from. But im a big believer in Money doesnt buy you championships. For all the money the Yankees have spent, eclipsing the 200 million dollar cap sveral years ago, they havent won a world series in 5 years. the Florida Marlins with roughly 1/4 the payroll beat out the Yanks for the series. I dont think the Bills need to spend all that money to be successful in the league.

Lets see the guys they lost.
London Fletcher- I think we actually gained alot outta him leaving and having Paul Posluszny coming in. I didnt think much of Fletcher. Pos is bigger, stronger, faster, better tackler, better reader, better in coverage and bigger.
Takeo Spikes- We lost the emotional leader of our team, but he has barely been there the past two years. Great when he can play, but i dont see him getting back to his old self.
Nate Clements- Biggest loss, great corner, but was he the "right person" to pay that money to? Hell no. Not in the cover 2. I think we will see a drop from the RCB, but not as great as many make it out to be.
Willis Mcgahee- I think flat-out that even if we didnt get MArshawn Lynch or another RB, A-Train and Shaud Williams would be fine.
I dont consider Darwin Walker anymore because we never actually had him on the field.

As for the core that we drafted. Pos and Lynch are going to be stars and could easily win thier respected Rookie of the Years Awards. I think the neuleus that is there now is there for good. That is the oney they are saving up. I think with the way the OL is set, the development of Losman and Lynch in the backfield is awesome. I think they got the "right people" in there right now as well as management. I like the direction this team is heading in. I feel the have the talent to compete, may take a few games to get going, I think JP is going to step up and be the leader of the offense. I feel that Witner should step up, but wouldnt be surprised for Crowell or Pos in time.


Again, your comparison to the Yankees and Washington are really not relevant. We aren't talking about going out after other team's top players. Here, we are talking about retaining players who you want to keep, that's a whole different ballgame and we are not able to do it. It's not just the players we lost last year, it is the fact that every year we lose 1 or 2 very solid veterans to FA with little compensation. You cannot build a team that way and dreaming that you'll win OROY AND DROY is wishful thinking at best.
Rookies look great on paper but the fact remains that rookies usually take 3 years to become solid players who know what they are doing on a consistant basis. During those 3 years, Buffalo will lose another 3 to 6 starters to FA and the cycle goes on and on.

Billingsley26
07-30-2007, 10:59 AM
Again, your comparison to the Yankees and Washington are really not relevant. We aren't talking about going out after other team's top players. Here, we are talking about retaining players who you want to keep, that's a whole different ballgame and we are not able to do it. It's not just the players we lost last year, it is the fact that every year we lose 1 or 2 very solid veterans to FA with little compensation. You cannot build a team that way and dreaming that you'll win OROY AND DROY is wishful thinking at best.
Rookies look great on paper but the fact remains that rookies usually take 3 years to become solid players who know what they are doing on a consistant basis. During those 3 years, Buffalo will lose another 3 to 6 starters to FA and the cycle goes on and on.

Well, my points including New York and Florida are relevant. They are showing you how teams with large salaries and small ones win.

I odnt think your understanding my point. Im arguing that the core or nucleus, which ever your prefer, right now is there for years. They have Losman locked up long-term, Lynch lonrg-term, most of the OL long term, Lee Evans long-term. 90% of the defense is signed long-term as well. Including Pos, Witner, Simpson, Schobel, Deney, Hargrove, Williams, Mccargo, Crowell, Ellison...you see my point.

You talk about not having these players and losing them to FA, but the fact remains that these players wone be lost to FA for at least 4-5 years. I feel that the rookies that we have on this team can succeed quickly. Especially Pos, who I think was NFL ready this year, and should've been the top LB two years ago.

You beginning to understand my point? Right now I dont see us losing any real improtant players like we lost this off-season for years to come. This team could be together for several years, and the outlook to me looks great.

Iamcanadian
07-31-2007, 11:15 AM
Well, my points including New York and Florida are relevant. They are showing you how teams with large salaries and small ones win.

I odnt think your understanding my point. Im arguing that the core or nucleus, which ever your prefer, right now is there for years. They have Losman locked up long-term, Lynch lonrg-term, most of the OL long term, Lee Evans long-term. 90% of the defense is signed long-term as well. Including Pos, Witner, Simpson, Schobel, Deney, Hargrove, Williams, Mccargo, Crowell, Ellison...you see my point.

You talk about not having these players and losing them to FA, but the fact remains that these players wone be lost to FA for at least 4-5 years. I feel that the rookies that we have on this team can succeed quickly. Especially Pos, who I think was NFL ready this year, and should've been the top LB two years ago.

You beginning to understand my point? Right now I dont see us losing any real improtant players like we lost this off-season for years to come. This team could be together for several years, and the outlook to me looks great.

I think you are again a bit naive. 1st round picks usually have a 4 year contract, players drafted in other rounds get no more than a 3 year contract. Have Losman and Evans renegotiated their contracts for extensions, I'm not sure! Williams and Ellison would only have 2 years remaining. A lot of the OLmen would only have 2 year contracts. Yes Lynch and Pos will be around for another 4 years but few others have contracts that go that long.
As for Poz, I love the guy but pro scouts are worried about his injury and how long he will play. That's why he lasted until round 2.
The steady stream of players will continue out of Buffalo and we won't be able to keep this team intact for 4 or 5 years. No way.
I'd guess your pretty young and the realities of Buffalo sports hasn't sunk in. We are one of the smallest markets in all of pro sports and that translates to low revenues which translates to great difficulty in retaining players. You saw the results in Hockey and Football this past off season. This is not a one time occurrence, this is simply the facts of not having enough revenue to retain players. Pre FA Buffalo could compete and retain its players, post FA, Buffalo has one of the worst records in pro football over the last decade, and every time we get close to being competitive, we lose a star or 2 to FA and have to rebuild for the umpteen time. I hate it but that is reality in the money world of pro sports. We might get 1 shot at a championship but not 4 or 5 years of keeping our players intact. Your dreaming if you think otherwise.

Billingsley26
07-31-2007, 01:30 PM
I think you are again a bit naive. 1st round picks usually have a 4 year contract, players drafted in other rounds get no more than a 3 year contract. Have Losman and Evans renegotiated their contracts for extensions, I'm not sure! Williams and Ellison would only have 2 years remaining. A lot of the OLmen would only have 2 year contracts. Yes Lynch and Pos will be around for another 4 years but few others have contracts that go that long.
As for Poz, I love the guy but pro scouts are worried about his injury and how long he will play. That's why he lasted until round 2.
The steady stream of players will continue out of Buffalo and we won't be able to keep this team intact for 4 or 5 years. No way.
I'd guess your pretty young and the realities of Buffalo sports hasn't sunk in. We are one of the smallest markets in all of pro sports and that translates to low revenues which translates to great difficulty in retaining players. You saw the results in Hockey and Football this past off season. This is not a one time occurrence, this is simply the facts of not having enough revenue to retain players. Pre FA Buffalo could compete and retain its players, post FA, Buffalo has one of the worst records in pro football over the last decade, and every time we get close to being competitive, we lose a star or 2 to FA and have to rebuild for the umpteen time. I hate it but that is reality in the money world of pro sports. We might get 1 shot at a championship but not 4 or 5 years of keeping our players intact. Your dreaming if you think otherwise.


Well, dont quote me on this, but I believe that Losman signed an extension. As for Pos, I think that alldoubt should have been gone after he played this whole year of college with no problems reoccuring.

I understand what you are saying about the Buffalo market. Look at the Sabres tho. They build through the draft and with young players. I like the core of this team. The Bills have Peters, Dockery and Walker all long term, and I odnt think that any of the other ones are going to command so much more money thay need to leave Buffalo. Like I said before, the previous Bills team was probably as good as it was gonna get with the cast of characters in there. I like the new guys, and I think the Bills management have understood that they dont have the monet and are playing accordingly. However, at the same time, There is a cap in this league, and I think the Bills are able to use enough money and sign who they need to sign. Take a look at the OL this past off-season. The Bills were no differnt in early 90's. Same market and structure. They built through the draft and some key signees here and there.

My point exactly is that they win with the right people. What the Bills need are not attitude cases like Willis Mcgahee, but rather people who want to succeed and be better and win. Example, JP Losman. That is how this team is going. I see nothing but guys like that across the roster. Guys like Lynch, Pos, Witner, Evans, Parrish and Royal all will do what they need to in order to win. Example, Royal staying and blocking last year in order to help the OL. That is how this team is going to win. They need those type of guys, and the upper management has realized that and is usign that as thier starting point. They dont need the talent to compete. After all the turn-over in Pro Sports is unbelieveable. Look at the 07 Champs, the Colts, they lost have the starters from the defense, and Im sure they will be fine this year. Its the up and comers, and look at the all good teams in this league. Its the ones with the "right people". Take teams like Washington who just spend, and tell me where they are. I like the direction of this team.

HerthaFootballFan
08-01-2007, 08:21 PM
I have a question for residents of Buffalo, I just moved here and it seems to me that from somewhere there is a lot money being put into getting this city to grow. Can anyone tell me some more about this. So far I am really enjoying my time here in america, my english is slowly getting good enough so people understand me and the city is pleasing to me, as such i would like to learn more about it.

Iamcanadian
08-02-2007, 08:06 AM
Well, dont quote me on this, but I believe that Losman signed an extension. As for Pos, I think that alldoubt should have been gone after he played this whole year of college with no problems reoccuring.

I understand what you are saying about the Buffalo market. Look at the Sabres tho. They build through the draft and with young players. I like the core of this team. The Bills have Peters, Dockery and Walker all long term, and I odnt think that any of the other ones are going to command so much more money thay need to leave Buffalo. Like I said before, the previous Bills team was probably as good as it was gonna get with the cast of characters in there. I like the new guys, and I think the Bills management have understood that they dont have the monet and are playing accordingly. However, at the same time, There is a cap in this league, and I think the Bills are able to use enough money and sign who they need to sign. Take a look at the OL this past off-season. The Bills were no differnt in early 90's. Same market and structure. They built through the draft and some key signees here and there.

My point exactly is that they win with the right people. What the Bills need are not attitude cases like Willis Mcgahee, but rather people who want to succeed and be better and win. Example, JP Losman. That is how this team is going. I see nothing but guys like that across the roster. Guys like Lynch, Pos, Witner, Evans, Parrish and Royal all will do what they need to in order to win. Example, Royal staying and blocking last year in order to help the OL. That is how this team is going to win. They need those type of guys, and the upper management has realized that and is usign that as thier starting point. They dont need the talent to compete. After all the turn-over in Pro Sports is unbelieveable. Look at the 07 Champs, the Colts, they lost have the starters from the defense, and Im sure they will be fine this year. Its the up and comers, and look at the all good teams in this league. Its the ones with the "right people". Take teams like Washington who just spend, and tell me where they are. I like the direction of this team.

If you want to talk about the cap then you have to understand that Buffalo is consistently spending 7-10 million under the cap on a yearly basis. Championship teams don't do that. If they lose a player it is because they are capped out or simply don't want him any longer. According to Levy, we lose players who we want to keep but simply cannot afford because we lack the money. Indy spends to their cap limit and it shows on the field. We don't and that inevidably shows on the field as well.
Your right people argument is rubbish. Losing teams always talk about getting the right people. It takes talent to win in the NFL and teams always prefer talent over non talent no matter how nice a player is. You think any team drafts player because they aren't the right people. Every team tries to draft the right people as long as they have talent. Without talent, the right people will keep you in last place forever.
As for Poz, he was a 2nd rounder because of his injury. Football is a very tough sport and once injured, it can shorten your career significantly. I hope it never bothers him again but he wasn't the same player last year that he was before the injury and we just have to pray he is fully recovered.

Billingsley26
08-02-2007, 10:18 AM
What I said before about being an armchair fan or a FOOTBALL fan is true. I think you are an arm chair fan. People feed you numbers and you take them try to make them the truth. Your not undertanding my point of "Right people". IF you truly knew the game, you would understand who and what the "right people" are. OBvioulsly you need to have talent to win, but in the NFL who doesnt have talent? They are all pretty good ball players. Some are better then others, yes, but thats where the "right people" come in to play.


Let me give you an example. JP Losman has been nothing much his first two years with the Bills. People thought we should dump him and go get a new QB. However, every year he has gotten better, and we saw just how much better he got this past year and especially towards the end of the year. JP has said he wants nothing more than to be better and bring a championship to Buffalo, and that he is going to work harder then ever for it. That is the RIGHT person.
Willis Mcgahee on the other hand. Never showed up to the team conditioning sessions, never sorked harder than the others to be better. Never stood up to be a leader. Ran off at the mouth calling himself the best RB in the league etc. Not the RIGHT person.

You understand my point yet about right person? Like I said before, they obviously need talent, and they wouldnt be there if they didnt have talent. More examples of having the right people. Washington spends like crazy, getting all thi talent via FA, but have they won anything since spending the money. NOPE. How about Dallas. Granted they have a ton of talent on offense and defense, and how far did they get last year? New England has no right bein at the top of the league year in and year out. They shoudn't have been able to compete with San Diego last year. I would say San Diego had WAY more talent than New England, and you tell me that the RIGHT people arguement is rubbish. Geez, you obviously sit at home and get fed all this junk from the media and think your right by saying it. But really your not right at all.

I look at the core of this team, and I see nothing but a bright future. You want another example of the RIGHT person w/ talent I might add. Marshawn Lynch. He is the ultimate team player. Will do what he needs to do to win, takes the fans over the media. Right there that shows me that he would rather sign autographs for the fans than speak about himself. This is what I see from this team. And you obivoulsy aren't a TRUE football fan judging by your knowledge of this topic. Ive given you several eamples of how it can work. The Bills right now have talent to comepte in this league. Witner and Simprons showed it, Schobel and Denne showed it, Crowell and Ellison to a degree showed it, Mcgee showed it. Losman, Evans, Royal the entire OL showed it.

I dont see any point for your argument. Ive proved almost every point you had wrong with FACTS. Like I said before, how did the Jets make the playoffs, yet the Bills had better talent than the JETS? The Bills had more TALENT than Jets, like you said you need talent to win, yet the Bills didnt make it and the Jets did. The Jets had the "RIGHT PEOPLE" and the Bills didnt't. That why.

fischbowl
08-03-2007, 06:21 PM
I have a question for residents of Buffalo, I just moved here and it seems to me that from somewhere there is a lot money being put into getting this city to grow. Can anyone tell me some more about this. So far I am really enjoying my time here in america, my english is slowly getting good enough so people understand me and the city is pleasing to me, as such i would like to learn more about it.


Welcome to the greatest city in America (even the world)

Yeah a lot of money is being put in, but we're still losing money. Businesses such as New Era staying in town has really helped. Expect more when Giambra get's his worthless ass out of the Erie County Executive seat.

fischbowl
08-03-2007, 07:15 PM
This is a tad far fetched but I say we bring in Bill Swancutt. So far he's been cut by Detroit, who hes been with for a while, and Oakland this month

Ive always been a big fan of his potential and Id love to see him compete for a backup DE spot.

SuperMcGee
08-04-2007, 02:45 PM
Neufeld hurts his knee, not sure if it's serious or not. I like Neufeld and he's one of our most seniored players, but I really want to see Cieslak out there more.

Gridiron
08-04-2007, 05:32 PM
Congrats to Thurman Thomas.

SuperMcGee
08-05-2007, 11:41 AM
Mega-crap. Hargrove arrested for striking a police officer/resisting arrest.

http://www.rnews.com/Story_2004.cfm?ID=51904&rnews_story_type=18&category=10

fischbowl
08-05-2007, 11:01 PM
Mega-crap. Hargrove arrested for striking a police officer/resisting arrest.

http://www.rnews.com/Story_2004.cfm?ID=51904&rnews_story_type=18&category=10

as much as i like him and the trade, we all know marv won't.

More of a reason to get Bill Swancutt.

Yes, congrats to Thurman. I would've love to have been there.

And at H-Back i definitely think Cieslak should start. Ive liked him since we got him as a UDFA. When Neufeld comes back it's down to the end competition between Schouman, Cieslak, and him.

SuperMcGee
08-06-2007, 02:50 PM
Webster and McCargo participated

Today
Posted By: Chris Brown | Time: 12:21 PM ET | Link (http://buffalobills.com/blog/index.jsp?post_id=1695)

WEBSTER AND MCCARGO PARTICIPATED: Jason Webster appears to be ready to return from his hamstring injury suffered last week. Webster participated in the morning walk-through and took reps in 7-on-7 work. Whether he'll participate fully in the night practice remains to be seen. They may just ease him back in with only 7-on-7 work, but he's close to full go.
John McCargo also participated in the walk-through this morning which could indicate he's close to returning from a strained oblique muscle in his abdomen. However, aside from doing walk-through the linemen just went to the weight room for lifting, so it's a bit more difficult to determine what exactly McCargo will and will not be doing tonight.
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Good news on both parts.

fischbowl
08-06-2007, 04:00 PM
Webster and McCargo participated

Today
Posted By: Chris Brown | Time: 12:21 PM ET | Link (http://buffalobills.com/blog/index.jsp?post_id=1695)

WEBSTER AND MCCARGO PARTICIPATED: Jason Webster appears to be ready to return from his hamstring injury suffered last week. Webster participated in the morning walk-through and took reps in 7-on-7 work. Whether he'll participate fully in the night practice remains to be seen. They may just ease him back in with only 7-on-7 work, but he's close to full go.
John McCargo also participated in the walk-through this morning which could indicate he's close to returning from a strained oblique muscle in his abdomen. However, aside from doing walk-through the linemen just went to the weight room for lifting, so it's a bit more difficult to determine what exactly McCargo will and will not be doing tonight.
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Good news on both parts.

yeah it's great to have Webster back. He'll be starting im calling it now

SuperMcGee
08-07-2007, 04:34 PM
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5035

Boy I sure am a huge fan of Leonhard, I like how this displayed his hard work and knowledge of the game. He might start on Friday if Whitner isn't a go. First backup for both safety spots. Can't wait to see how the other backup spots fill up. Wilson was still running second team today, and Trevor Hooper, who I know pretty much nothing about, filled in at FS while Leonhard was up with the ones.

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I'm hearing a lot of good thigns about Kelsay-Tripps-Williams, but I'm not sure if I should just attribute this to the right side of our o-line or not.

fischbowl
08-07-2007, 05:24 PM
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5035

Boy I sure am a huge fan of Leonhard, I like how this displayed his hard work and knowledge of the game. He might start on Friday if Whitner isn't a go. First backup for both safety spots. Can't wait to see how the other backup spots fill up. Wilson was still running second team today, and Trevor Hooper, who I know pretty much nothing about, filled in at FS while Leonhard was up with the ones.

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I'm hearing a lot of good thigns about Kelsay-Tripps-Williams, but I'm not sure if I should just attribute this to the right side of our o-line or not.

****, no word on Wendling in that article.

NGSeiler
08-08-2007, 05:25 PM
Mega-crap. Hargrove arrested for striking a police officer/resisting arrest.

http://www.rnews.com/Story_2004.cfm?ID=51904&rnews_story_type=18&category=10

Yeah, thanks for that fifth rounder, by the way... :D

SuperMcGee
08-11-2007, 05:16 PM
Uggghhhh

Hargrove suspended four games, but not for the arrest incident. This is for violating the substance abuse policy.

Goodbye Tony.

BufFan71
08-18-2007, 03:34 PM
hargrove is not getting cut

SuperMcGee
08-18-2007, 07:13 PM
hargrove is not getting cut

Well not now. Things were different when that was posted.

BufFan71
08-18-2007, 07:40 PM
yeah i kno, i was gonna add that hes not getting cut b/c of denny's injury but i was too lazy to edit it

HoopsDemon12
08-21-2007, 01:56 PM
I saw the first pre season game and Poz was amazing.. how did he fare in the second one? i really like this guy

SuperMcGee
08-21-2007, 02:00 PM
I saw the first pre season game and Poz was amazing.. how did he fare in the second one? i really like this guy

He was pretty good. All the LBers that started (Poz, Ellison, Wire) impressed me and all made run stopping plays at the line. That's especially good to see from Ellison, who needs to be more of a force in addition to his pass defending skills.
Wire looks like he's made a great transition to LB, I love it. Smart guy with some good intensity.

HoopsDemon12
08-21-2007, 02:27 PM
He was pretty good. All the LBers that started (Poz, Ellison, Wire) impressed me and all made run stopping plays at the line. That's especially good to see from Ellison, who needs to be more of a force in addition to his pass defending skills.
Wire looks like he's made a great transition to LB, I love it. Smart guy with some good intensity.

i didnt even know they moved Coy to linebacker... im pretty sure it will be Ellison Poz Crowell on opening day day though.. which isnt bad because i actualyl really like all 3

SuperMcGee
08-21-2007, 04:00 PM
i didnt even know they moved Coy to linebacker... im pretty sure it will be Ellison Poz Crowell on opening day day though.. which isnt bad because i actualyl really like all 3

For sure it will be, Coy is just the primary backup that started with Crowell out.

SuperMcGee
08-22-2007, 01:23 PM
We signed Al Wallace to fill our void at backup DE. A much needed move even if he ends up further down the depth chart later in the year.

BufFan71
08-22-2007, 05:28 PM
i heard Tyler Brayton might get cut...if so we need to sign him

Billingsley26
08-22-2007, 07:32 PM
ya man, things arent looking good right now on the DL. Maybe I have just big assumptions, but im really tthinking that McCargo is going to blossom this year. No idea where this is coming from, but its just a feeling. Other than that Im banking on Schobel to be like last year, aswell as Kelsay the same. So knows at this point.

Pos has been looking GREAT. I am very pleased with that.

SuperMcGee
08-23-2007, 08:24 PM
http://rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gifNFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Bills are preparing to sign DE Aaron Schobel to a massive contract extension.

ruthlessrussian
08-24-2007, 06:05 PM
That would be sick if we could lock up Schobel. Definitely the difference maker on our defense.
Anybody watching the game tonight? Moulds back in Buffalo. Makes me cringe seeing him in a Titans uniform.

SuperMcGee
08-25-2007, 02:16 PM
Our defense is awful. I know it won't work out, but I'm totally for letting Greer start.

Also, Fred Jackson is simply amazing. It's impossible not to love him, running hard and making guys miss like that, it's really refreshing.

One more thing - Derek Schouman. He's caught a few short passes the past two games and has seemed pretty hard to take down after the catch, realy stretching some good gains out of it. I'm a Cieslak fan but I'm really warming up to Schouman.

SuperMcGee
08-25-2007, 02:27 PM
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/dekalb/stories/2007/08/24/childpay_0825.html

Willis had 3, Henry had 9; Will the trend keep decreasing or can Lynch manage double digits?

BufFan71
08-25-2007, 05:21 PM
i dont understand the Jackson Hype, hes playing against 3rd stringers most of the time....

Youboty WILL be the number 2 this season...

and yay...(old news) we signed Al Wallace and extended Schobel

SuperMcGee
08-25-2007, 07:08 PM
i dont understand the Jackson Hype, hes playing against 3rd stringers most of the time....

Youboty WILL be the number 2 this season...

and yay...(old news) we signed Al Wallace and extended Schobel

What do you mean by hype?

He's been exciting and I hope he makes the team, but it's not like people are calling for great things from him. He's been impressive, even if it was against 3rd stringers. There's no hype, just praise for how good he's been in whatever time he's gotten.

BufFan71
08-25-2007, 07:52 PM
so yur gonna act like people on the buffalo bills message boards aren't acting as if Jackson is our future back?

[by hype, i meant by buffalo bills fans]

SuperMcGee
08-25-2007, 07:57 PM
so yur gonna act like people on the buffalo bills message boards aren't acting as if Jackson is our future back?

[by hype, i meant by buffalo bills fans]

Well this is the only one I visit, and lately I've had half the posts in here, so no, I haven't seen people doing that. :)

HoopsDemon12
08-26-2007, 11:32 AM
The exremly succesfull National Fantasy League is done its first season and is now looking for more participants.. its actaully really fun and pretty cool... please atleast check out the fantasy thread sign up.

HoopsDemon12
08-26-2007, 12:00 PM
This is a far better explanation... thanks Buck

You guys should all go the Fantasy Section and sign up for the National Fantasy League Signups 2nd season. It's basically a simulation league and if you're unfamiliar with what that is. You create a player, make yourself or make someone up and you get to make up everything about him. Position, size, strengths, weaknesses, college. You will then be entered into the draft. It doesn't ask for a huge commitment. You can just sign up and check whenever you want. But if you're like me, you'll get attached and get really into it. Just go to that thread and signup, it explains everything in further detail. It'll be a lot of fun. If you have any further question about it just ask me.

SuperMcGee
08-28-2007, 11:49 AM
Pats get bye before Bills again

August 27, 2007
Posted By: Chris Brown | Time: 4:55 PM ET | Link (http://buffalobills.com/blog/index.jsp?post_id=1806)

PATS GET BYE BEFORE BILLS AGAIN!: As I was making my way through the schedule to try to assess how many wins the Bills could secure this season I noticed that the Patriots, for what I believe is the fifth time in six years, will get the benefit of a bye before they play Buffalo. This year New England gets a bye in week 10 before coming to Buffalo to play the Bills in week 11 on Nov. 18. Super, just super.
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This is something I have noticed as well. Kind of lame.

fischbowl
08-28-2007, 12:49 PM
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5138

CUTS CUTS CUTS!!!

Manning and Reggie Lewis kinda surprising but nothing really unexpected.

fischbowl
08-28-2007, 03:20 PM
In seperate cuts made to satisfy the NFL's 75 man limit, WR Felton Huggins, OT Walter Stith (simply huge, I really liked him), and everyones favorite local S Jon Corto, were cut. Also Aaron Merz was placed on the IR.

Sorry McGee.

fischbowl
08-28-2007, 03:27 PM
Looking at other cuts made, I'd be ecstatic if Bills management would sign Marcus Maxey (cut by Chiefs), Mike Jones (cut by Chargers) or Orien Harris (Cut by Browns).

SuperMcGee
08-28-2007, 04:10 PM
In seperate cuts made to satisfy the NFL's 75 man limit, WR Felton Huggins, OT Walter Stith (simply huge, I really liked him), and everyones favorite local S Jon Corto, were cut. Also Aaron Merz was placed on the IR.

Sorry McGee.

It's ok. He's still no Jim Leonhard.

BufFan71
08-28-2007, 06:50 PM
as long as my boy thad washington doesnt get cut...

SuperMcGee
08-28-2007, 09:09 PM
as long as my boy thad washington doesnt get cut...

Stamer's better :)

SuperMcGee
08-30-2007, 03:13 PM
The Bills and the Bulls in the same night! Hooray for name similarity and general awesomeness/perennial ineptitude!

SuperMcGee
09-02-2007, 05:43 PM
Rejoice!
Brad Butler is the starting RG!
He's looked the best to me and I really like the move.

also - Ellison is out indefinitely with his high ankle sprain. This puts Coy into the lineup. He had a good preseason, let's see how he does. I think he's transitioned very well so far.

BufFan71
09-02-2007, 05:53 PM
WASHINGTON GOT CUT...

he better be on the practice squad

Billingsley26
09-02-2007, 06:01 PM
Rejoice!
Brad Butler is the starting RG!
He's looked the best to me and I really like the move.

also - Ellison is out indefinitely with his high ankle sprain. This puts Coy into the lineup. He had a good preseason, let's see how he does. I think he's transitioned very well so far.

Oh man, any word on how long Ellison is out for. I just dont feel safe with Coy at WLB. I dont think hes big enough or strong enough.

SuperMcGee
09-02-2007, 06:19 PM
"It's not good. It's going to be a while," coach Dick Jauron said Sunday.

I understand the worry about Coy, but it's not like we weren't already working with an undersized LB with Ellison. We might miss his coverage skills a bit though, even if Coy has been a safety throughout his pro career.

Billingsley26
09-02-2007, 06:22 PM
"It's not good. It's going to be a while," coach Dick Jauron said Sunday.

I understand the worry about Coy, but it's not like we weren't already working with an undersized LB with Ellison. We might miss his coverage skills a bit though, even if Coy has been a safety throughout his pro career.

Ya thats right. But i just dont feel safe with Coy trying to play the run too.

BufFan71
09-02-2007, 06:38 PM
we should sign darnell bing

Billingsley26
09-02-2007, 06:41 PM
we should sign darnell bing

I would, but I dont think we need anymore help at S. I never even knew he was cut. Someone wil jump on him pretty quickley.

Bills2083
09-02-2007, 06:47 PM
What do you think about Dhani Jones? Whats the deal with him?

Bills2083
09-02-2007, 06:48 PM
Jon Alston was also cut. I was reading about him, and it said that he would fit very well in a cover-2 defense. He was drafted in the 3rd round last year. What do you think about him too?

BufFan71
09-02-2007, 08:18 PM
john alston???
on madden his overall is 74...and if u move him to DE..it becomes a 92 lol

bing can also play OLB

so bing or alston ill be happy with

Bills2083
09-02-2007, 09:18 PM
john alston???
on madden his overall is 74...and if u move him to DE..it becomes a 92 lol

bing can also play OLB

so bing or alston ill be happy with

lol, lets sign him, convert him to a DE, and trade him for a run-stuffing DT.

If only we could to that

BufFan71
09-03-2007, 11:06 AM
lol, lets sign him, convert him to a DE, and trade him for a run-stuffing DT.

If only we could to that

lol, yeah i when ever i start a franchise with a horrible team, i always use him as trade bait

Shiver
09-06-2007, 05:42 PM
Jason Webster is the starter, correct?

SuperMcGee
09-06-2007, 07:25 PM
Jason Webster is the starter, correct?

As of now, yes. But if anything from the preseason carries over (which it never does with Jabari), then Greer can easily overtake him.

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 01:30 PM
Marshawn Lynch isn't hitting the holes fast enough. I hope he picks it up soon because I'd hate to label him a bust

BufFan71
09-09-2007, 01:48 PM
are u serious?
Lynch is running hard


i hope Everett is alright.....serious injury there

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 01:49 PM
Looks like Derek Schouman might be called up for week 2 as a 3rd TE

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 02:04 PM
I spoke way too soon about Lynch. I apologize

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 02:25 PM
I didn't expect us to be able to pass too well on Denver but still. Lee Evans needs to get the ball more. 2 catches for 5 yards!?

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 03:15 PM
Huge collapse by the defense in the last two minutes to lose that game for us. if we can't win these games then I have to think we're going 5-11 this year. I'm so mad right now. At least John McCargo got a sack today

BufFan71
09-09-2007, 03:20 PM
well Lee Evans will be the reason i lose my fantasy game today....

our offense (aside from Lynch) looked like an absolute Joke today
esp the blocking...or the lack of blocking

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-09-2007, 03:22 PM
Good game today. Both teams made some mistakes, but both teams had guys show flashes. You guys appear to have a S.T.U.D. in Lynch. That TD, and his 4th down run were spectacular. I wasn't a huge fan going into the draft of his, I mean, I thought he would be good, but not amazing. Now I'm not so sure. He looked great out there. Kept pounding it in and punishing our D. I wouldn't be too worried about the rest of the season, Denver is always good at those last minute drives, and it's not like Lee Evans is gonna be shut down like that again. I don't know if either of these teams will make a lot of noise, but I see .500 or 9-7 in the Bills future and somewhere between 8-8 and 10-6 for us.

elway777
09-09-2007, 04:04 PM
I'm assuming Champ was on Lee?

:p

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 04:20 PM
I'm assuming Champ was on Lee?

:p

You can still get him the ball more than twice

SuperMcGee
09-09-2007, 04:23 PM
I'm assuming Champ was on Lee?

:p

Once Bly was on him we went right after him. Ball hung up, though, and Bly got a hand on it. Lee was contained all day, except for that step he had on Champ on our last drive where the ball and him didn't quite meet.

Geo
09-09-2007, 04:28 PM
Tough, tough loss for the Bills today. Marshawn Lynch looked like a budding beast, it's like night and day compared to McGahee.

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 04:41 PM
Scary stat of the day

3 total tackles for our DT rotation

1 for McCargo(a sack)
1 for Tripplett
.5 for Kyle Williams
.5 for Jefferson

We need more of an impact from our Defensive tackles or we'll see every RB rush for 100+ on us.

HoopsDemon12
09-09-2007, 04:48 PM
Im hoping Ko's injury isnt bad although leonard really held his own and impressed me today. Puz looked very good aswell, always around the ball although there werea couple plays you could tell he isnt hte fastest guy in the world. Lynch looked terrific compared to the preseason and im looking forward to see what he become this year. Out passing game was horrific though, we really needed to take more shots down feild. 2 catches for lee evans is just not acceptable.

SuperMcGee
09-09-2007, 04:49 PM
Ko - fractured ankle
Everett - spinal cord injury
Wire - Sprained knee

We're in for a big dose of Jim Leonhard and Mario Haggan starting. Yikes.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
09-09-2007, 04:51 PM
The Simpson injury was gross.

BufFan71
09-09-2007, 04:53 PM
Ko broke his ankle i believe reading it from Buffalobills.com
he will be out for a while
looks like Wendling is going to get his oppertunity

SuperMcGee
09-09-2007, 04:57 PM
Oh man, I'm just hearing about the Webster injury now, too. What is going on?

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 05:03 PM
Man this is going to be a long year with all these injuries. Maybe We should hope for a top 5 pick and Glenn Dorsey

BufFan71
09-09-2007, 05:16 PM
im really worried about Kevin Everett...
he has a serious injury....
a spinal cord injury is not good....

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 05:18 PM
im really worried about Kevin Everett...
he has a serious injury....
a spinal cord injury is not good....

Yeah. He was probably on his way out of Buffalo after this year anyway but you hate to see it because of an injury

HoopsDemon12
09-09-2007, 06:18 PM
im really worried about Kevin Everett...
he has a serious injury....
a spinal cord injury is not good....

Yeah. He was probably on his way out of Buffalo after this year anyway but you hate to see it because of an injury

ya i agree with you.. he hasnt done anyhting since we have drafted him because of his injuries.. its terrible to see him go out this way and i hope he is okay. But for a guy who started his career injured in buffalo.. i guess it was meant to be he finished injured

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 06:45 PM
I'm just glad that if the DTs are going to play like ****, at least John McCargo played the least ****** of the bunch. McCargo has been my pick for breakout player on this team for months

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 07:09 PM
The only two impressive performances today were Roscoe Parrish on the punt return and Marshawn Lynch in the 2nd half

HoopsDemon12
09-09-2007, 07:11 PM
The only two impressive performances today were Roscoe Parrish on the punt return and Marshawn Lynch in the 2nd half

you really didnt think Poz had a good game either? i think he did what he was meant to do and tackle poeple.. when the isolated him he did great job at wrapping up. And ya it was good to see McCargo do something.. i hope he plays well all season long so we can justify that first pick

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 07:13 PM
you really didnt think Poz had a good game either? i think he did what he was meant to do and tackle poeple.. when the isolated him he did great job at wrapping up. And ya it was good to see McCargo do something.. i hope he plays well all season long so we can justify that first pick

The only reason Poz got so many tackles was because our DL only had like 9 total tackles all game. Every running play ended in our 2nd and 3rd level of defense

HoopsDemon12
09-09-2007, 07:15 PM
The only reason Poz got so many tackles was because our DL only had like 9 total tackles all game. Every running play ended in our 2nd and 3rd level of defense

so he did good then even by those standards... if your defensive line doesnt get em then they get to that second level and he was aroudn the ball everytime they did let Henry through which was about every play. Although there where way to many plays where Leonard and whitner had to make tackles in teh defensive secondary

SuperMcGee
09-09-2007, 07:49 PM
The only two impressive performances today were Roscoe Parrish on the punt return and Marshawn Lynch in the 2nd half

Josh Stamer was all over on kick coverage. Due credit to the STers!!

neko4
09-09-2007, 07:53 PM
why are people already calling for JP to be benched?

Hines
09-09-2007, 07:55 PM
good luck next sunday..

SuperMcGee
09-09-2007, 08:10 PM
why are people already calling for JP to be benched?

It's not a widespread thing, just some select morons that I know of. A LOT of people think it's going to happen over the course of the season, though.

HoopsDemon12
09-09-2007, 08:37 PM
He started to come around though last year... he played the best cornerback tadem in the league today... give him some time against other teams... teh spped of hte game changes for pre season to regular season, so let him get fully used to it then start calling for a benching. Edwards is a good player but i want J.P for another year.

Hines
09-09-2007, 08:38 PM
over or under 50 yards rushing for lynch

HoopsDemon12
09-09-2007, 08:40 PM
over or under 50 yards rushing for lynch

it really depends on how our passing game comes along... cause if we allow you guys to stack it up in the box and give us only quick stuff...were done.. we need to get some big 30+ yard receving plays... if that happens over

Hines
09-09-2007, 08:41 PM
it really depends on how our passing game comes along... cause if we allow you guys to stack it up in the box and give us only quick stuff...were done.. we need to get some big 30+ yard receving plays... if that happens over

ya i think that we will double evans really

or just have ike covering him with smith over the top

i think the steelers will squeak it out though because i think it will come down tot he running games

HoopsDemon12
09-09-2007, 08:44 PM
ya i think that we will double evans really

or just have ike covering him with smith over the top

i think the steelers will squeak it out though because i think it will come down tot he running games

Lynch and that left side of our line looked really good today.. our offensive line is definalty improved... let Losman get in a rythm its early in the season. I think lynch will do very well because he is a tuff runner

Hines
09-09-2007, 08:47 PM
all im saying is i think that losman will have to win the game..and i cant see that happening.. i say like 20-17 steelers

Billingsley26
09-09-2007, 08:49 PM
I couldnt go to the game today because I had practise today, but after practise, after about 7.00 tonite, a few of us went to Denny's in Hamburg over here, and a lady was there who worked at Buffalo Genreal Hospital, and she said that she was around Kevin Everrit at BGH, and said that it is most likely a broken neck. I dont know true this is, but she claims to have been there. She kept telling us to pray for him. She said it will probably be it for him playing football, and may be luck to do anything athletically for the rest of his life. I hope it isnt like this. Everybody pray for him. I hate to see this. I could see watching the game, that the minute he hit Hixon, his body dropped- his arms dropped and leg collapsed, didnt look good. God Bless Him!

As for the game. I was only able to catch the first half, but from what I saw:
-JP looks like the same old JP right now. I wasnt impressed with him at all. Im gonna give him 2 more outings like this, then enter Trent Edwards.
-Early on I liked the way Langston Walker looked. I thought he made some good blocks, and helped out alot, especailly when JP was moving around out of the pocket.
- I wouldnt blame the DT. I thought they played pretty well. I dont consider the amount of tackles one has enough to determine how well they played. Travis Henry rushed for 139 yards, and I belive that on the option that Denver ran in the 1st he gained about 35 yards. So take that away, thats around 100 yards give or take a few. I think that is allright considering Denver's running history. I thought they played pretty well. It looked to me that Buffalo is ttrying to take an edge of having the DT especially eat up blockers, because it looked to me that Pos had many tackles being one on one with the RB.
-I thought Pos looked good. Was always around the ball. Not sure how many tackles exactly, but I would say over 10 for sure. He looked shredding blocks, and filling the holes. I was pretty impressed with him. Coy didnt actually look that bad either.
-Marshawn Lynch. What can I say. I dont look at his yards as a measure of success in this one. The way he battled was incrediable. There were several times where he should have been down behind the line, then bounced forward for about 4 yards. Especailly the play where I believe it was on 4th down, when he got licked by DJ Williams and lost his helmet, and still ran forward to get the first down. Gret game by him, Im not worried the slightest.
-Buffalo just doesnt know how to win. The one that sticks out to me was when Brad Butler gets called for procedure on the FG attempt. Would have been a 53 yarder, which I had faith in Lindell, then turns it into a 58 yarder. they turn to JP to run a screen which gets picked. Stupid misakes that cost the game.
-Ko Simpson probaby broke his ankle. Well, thats what it looked like to me on TV. Didnt look good at all. His ankle was rolled on and was on the side of his leg was fell. DAMN!

PS. SuperKevin I dont like the quote under your sig. What thread is that from?

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 09:18 PM
PS. SuperKevin I dont like the quote under your sig. What thread is that from?

Don't worry about it. I'm getting rid of it soon anyway

SuperMcGee
09-09-2007, 09:24 PM
So how about McGee doing his best impression of Kiwaukee today...

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 09:29 PM
Anyone forsee us combing the practice squads for some OLB help now that we are down to our 3rd string OLB in Haggan?

Billingsley26
09-09-2007, 09:35 PM
Anyone forsee us combing the practice squads for some OLB help now that we are down to our 3rd string OLB in Haggan?

YUP! Sure do!!

SuperKevin
09-09-2007, 10:00 PM
YUP! Sure do!!

The only signifigant practice squad player I can see us considering is Jon Alston off the Raiders practice squad.

fischbowl
09-09-2007, 10:17 PM
The only signifigant practice squad player I can see us considering is Jon Alston off the Raiders practice squad.

when did they get Alston?

HoopsDemon12
09-09-2007, 11:13 PM
K i may be behind but what happend to ellison?

Iamcanadian
09-10-2007, 04:34 AM
I'm actually quite pleased with the game although I would have perfered a win. I was real concerned that Lynch might just be a flop after the preseason but that concern is gone. He's going to be special.
We still need to upgrade the OL and WR positions but staying with Denver, a playoff contender bodes well for this young team's future.

SuperKevin
09-10-2007, 04:36 AM
K i may be behind but what happend to ellison?

Got hurt in the preseason

Billingsley26
09-10-2007, 08:44 AM
Well, I guess what that woman at the Denny's I went to was telling the truth about Kevin Everitt. Heres the update.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7207544

Don Vito
09-10-2007, 09:51 AM
I really hope that most of this is precautionary and Everett walks again, that would be too sad.

alca1992
09-10-2007, 11:37 AM
god i sure hope everet is ok my prayers will be with him

SuperKevin
09-10-2007, 10:36 PM
Crazy scenario here guys. How would you all feel moving John Wendling to backup OLB while Coy Wire is out? Both play a very similar style of aggressive play. Then you call preseason and training camp star Jon Corto up to backup Jim Leonhard

619
09-11-2007, 04:31 PM
my thoughts and prayers are with kevin everett and his family. u never want to imagine something like this could happen playin the game of football and im sure its shocking to many of us.

Visholm
09-11-2007, 04:36 PM
Hi just want pay sympathy to you **** and especially Kevin Everett.. I just so sad to see some thing like that happen, no matter who it is.. Just hope he comes back from this nasty injury, even though it's not looking good..
Kevin you are in my prayers.. Keep fighting!!!

BufFan71
09-11-2007, 06:18 PM
man, i wanna see Wendling start at safety,
and at OLB, i wanna see Haggan....

SuperKevin
09-11-2007, 06:20 PM
man, i wanna see Wendling start at safety,
and at OLB, i wanna see Haggan....

I don't think Wendling's coverage skills are good enough yet to throw him in as a starting safety but his run stopping abilities could make him a valuable OLB while we are thin

BufFan71
09-11-2007, 06:34 PM
thats tru, his nfl draft profile says he could play at OLB in a cover2/tampa2 defense

Bills2083
09-11-2007, 06:38 PM
LaMont Thompson is still available at S. Who else is available?

BTW, I want to see more of Haggan and LB. He seemed to have a pretty good game on sunday

SuperKevin
09-11-2007, 06:39 PM
I'm dead serious. If The coaching staff wants to make the smart move Wendling will play backup OLB and we'll search the practice squads for a valuable young safety

Bills2083
09-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Has Wendling ever played LB? Such as in HS or College?

SuperKevin
09-11-2007, 06:45 PM
Has Wendling ever played LB? Such as in HS or College?

At Wyoming he played at the line of scrimmage a lot and was mainly used in run support

Bills2083
09-11-2007, 06:46 PM
We mine as well try him out then.

BTW, How long are Wire/Webster out for?

SuperKevin
09-11-2007, 06:48 PM
We mine as well try him out then.

BTW, How long are Wire/Webster out for?

No idea. I'll try to find out

BufFan71
09-11-2007, 07:45 PM
i think webster is out for the year...he broke his arm......

looks like he was a bad pickup something i kept saying on the Buffalo Bills MB all offseason, but everyone flamed me for it....

SuperMcGee
09-11-2007, 09:34 PM
i think webster is out for the year...he broke his arm......

looks like he was a bad pickup something i kept saying on the Buffalo Bills MB all offseason, but everyone flamed me for it....

As much as I want to doubt anyone thinking Webster was a great pickup, there is no place quite like the BB message board for snap judgments with no intellectual basis. I only pop in sporadically, but I usually am able to find a good handful of posts that drive me away for a while.

SuperMcGee
09-11-2007, 09:58 PM
Alright, in the midst of all the injuries ther have been a few tarnsactions going on.

We brought in Michael Gaines earlier and then brought back Murphy.
Simpson and Everett on IR
We now have released Eric Powell (meaning only Schobel, Kelsay, and Neil are our DE's right now).

We have two open spots on the roster. We currently only have 3 DE and 5 LB active. Denney I still have no idea what his timetable is to return. Most of our hurt guys are out indefinitely and I'm not sure what to expect, but we have room to make a move.

Billingsley26
09-11-2007, 10:13 PM
Alright, in the midst of all the injuries ther have been a few tarnsactions going on.

We brought in Michael Gaines earlier and then brought back Murphy.
Simpson and Everett on IR
We now have released Eric Powell (meaning only Schobel, Kelsay, and Neil are our DE's right now).

We have two open spots on the roster. We currently only have 3 DE and 5 LB active. Denney I still have no idea what his timetable is to return. Most of our hurt guys are out indefinitely and I'm not sure what to expect, but we have room to make a move.

Its official. Heard on WGR a little while ago that Ko Simpson and Jason Webster were put on IR. Man, thats a huge blow. Here comes Youboty. To be honest, I think he'll be allright. I would have been satisfied with him starting last week.

SuperMcGee
09-11-2007, 10:18 PM
Webster part is news to me, so make that 3 open spots. Swanson brought back up, maybe? I'm not sure who's available or what we're looking for.

SuperKevin
09-11-2007, 11:24 PM
We should consider signing Nick Greisen to a contract if we're looking for another OLB. He's a guy who was starting only a few years ago and now is still a free agent.

Bryan Scott is a player who comes to mind as a safety we could sign as well

SuperMcGee
09-12-2007, 12:53 PM
We did indeed sign Scott, as well as DE Copeland Bryan.
Full roster now, I guess.

And from what I've heard, and probably most of you have as well since we're all up on CB's blog, DiGiorgio might start on the weak side.

SuperKevin
09-12-2007, 10:50 PM
Ok I'm a realist so I'm not expecting any sort of miracle win over Pittsburgh this week. Our defense is incredibly thin at this point and I don't think we have the defensive speed to hang with Willie Parker and Santonio Holmes. My only hopes are for another positive performance from Marshawn Lynch and for Lee Evans to have at least 6 catches and 80 yards

Billingsley26
09-13-2007, 08:19 AM
Ok I'm a realist so I'm not expecting any sort of miracle win over Pittsburgh this week. Our defense is incredibly thin at this point and I don't think we have the defensive speed to hang with Willie Parker and Santonio Holmes. My only hopes are for another positive performance from Marshawn Lynch and for Lee Evans to have at least 6 catches and 80 yards

I met Marshawn Lynch at Mckinley Mall last night. That was sick. The manis JACKED!!! His shoulder are huge. never pictured him to be that big.

Bills2083
09-13-2007, 08:25 AM
did you get his autograph? Or did you just walk by him?

SuperMcGee
09-13-2007, 12:01 PM
With Webster officially on IR, Bills sign LB Leon Joe, who is familiar with Fewell.

Bills2083
09-13-2007, 06:22 PM
Has anyone ever seen Joe play?

SuperKevin
09-13-2007, 10:45 PM
Has anyone ever seen Joe play?

He used to play for University of Maryland

Bills2083
09-16-2007, 03:58 PM
We SUCKED today. WTF is going on?

BufFan71
09-16-2007, 04:20 PM
easy, our offense cannot sustain drives, forcing our defense on the field for too long

Actually, im aiming for the #1 overal pick, and the QB from Kentucky (woodsen)

Bills2083
09-16-2007, 04:46 PM
what about Brohm? I dont really watch college football much (I plan on watching more), but what are each of their assets and flaws? (woodson and brohm)

SuperMcGee
09-16-2007, 04:59 PM
Whhaaaaaaaaaat??

QB? First round? Not a chance. Even if JP does absolutely terrible his whole year, it's still not going to happen. There's a very simple reason for this, I'd expect you all to know what it is.

And no, it is not OK to root for us to lose.

Bills2083
09-16-2007, 05:01 PM
more rebuilding?

SuperMcGee
09-16-2007, 05:05 PM
"It" has a name.

BufFan71
09-16-2007, 05:10 PM
Trent Edwards?
i dont see him being the future imo

SuperMcGee
09-16-2007, 05:23 PM
Trent Edwards?
i dont see him being the future imo

He's a good enough option to be the future to not draft a first round QB this coming draft. He was first day QB, we loved how late we got him, and he has done nothing but impress. The Bills don't share the same feelings that you do on our need for a QB, I promise.

On that note, let's go JP! Prove them all wrong!!

Hines
09-16-2007, 05:25 PM
i know you heard this a million times but ill say it again....lynch is gonna be a stud in this league for a long time

SuperKevin
09-16-2007, 07:04 PM
i know you heard this a million times but ill say it again....lynch is gonna be a stud in this league for a long time

Didn't look all that studly today, but then again the whole team sucked it up big time.

I seriously think we're going to be this years Oakland Raiders. We have the worst offense in the league by far at this point

HoopsDemon12
09-16-2007, 11:07 PM
Didn't look all that studly today, but then again the whole team sucked it up big time.

I seriously think we're going to be this years Oakland Raiders. We have the worst offense in the league by far at this point

I actually dis agree with you... he sitll looked great i thought... our offensive line played horrible.. we had no passing game but he still got yards when i thgouth nothign was there.. he runs with great pateince already...


GOT DAM we have teh injury bug this year... if this keeps going im gonna lose the NFLDC Biggest loser thingy

And sorry i agree with your second statement... our offence is terrible... Lee evans has 4 catches in two games....

hcbrad08
09-17-2007, 12:14 AM
Hope you guys can give the Pats a run next week. Kevin Everett God Bless you man, good luck with recovery. Your organization is great for running a fire drill scenario of that however eerie that is KUDOS for that. Good luck next week.

SuperKevin
09-17-2007, 01:03 AM
Hope you guys can give the Pats a run next week.

If by give the Pats a run, you mean not let them score 50 points, then yeah I hope we give them a run too......however I'm still not very optimistic

ruthlessrussian
09-17-2007, 02:14 AM
As thin as the defense is I dont think it played to bad. They just wore out in the second half.
Are offense is another story. WE HAVE GOT TO GET THE BALL IN LEE EVANS HANDS!! Four catches in two games is BS. I dont think we'll win next sunday but the offense needs to make a statement next sunday. Im looking for a big game from Evans and Parrish. Losman needs to start going deep to strech the field that way some of the focus can be taken away from Lynch.

Billingsley26
09-17-2007, 10:13 PM
So far after two games here is my observation:

A) Paul Posluszny and Angelo Crowell have as advertised and better. I havent even noticed who the 3rd LB, and right now it doesnt matter. If they can get and sort of play from the DT this will be one of the best run stopping Defense's in the league.
B) Nothing from the DT. Absolutely nothing. If I was Perry Fewell, I would tell them to drop and grab ankles. At leas they would be productive in creating a large pile and keeping blockers off the LB's. That is all I have to say about them.
C) OL has been pretty good. I think they have done well. I would say that they are having a problem with pass blocking. I like the way they have opened up the holes. I think so far Langston Walker has done very well. I like the way he has been playing.
D) WR has been garbage. Ill throw TE in there too. Blame it on Losman....i wouldnt. At time Losman looks to have the time, yet no one to throw to. They have to do a better job. Either way the Bills need to adress this position. They need more weapons at this spot.
E) QB. After thinking about it, I think I have put too much on JP this early on. Granted he faced one of the best secondaries of all time with Denver, and then a D in Pitsburgh. It wont get any easier going against NE, NY and DAL. I was the first to bash im, but after watching a little closer, I see that he has the time to make plays, but nothing is open down field. Granted they are playing great defense, but the WR have to do their part toget open. I will ease up on JP for now. Give hima few more weeks.
E) DB's. Help is needed, but hasnt been as bad as it seems. Leonhard I think is trying real hard and playing well. I dont know what else to say.

Things I like
- Marshawn Lynch
-Linebackers
-OL
-Bend but dont break defense. If they had any offense to ustain drives they had a shot at beating the Steelers. I like this mentality. Would work because they don't have enough PLAY MAKERS. I would love to see Dan Connor the more I think of it. More so than a stud DT. Taking a stud DT in the 1st round, probably wont have him starting anyways. I would push to trade for one or via FA.

So far this is my breakdown of the two games.Some good things, and some bad.

Iamcanadian
09-18-2007, 09:29 AM
So far after two games here is my observation:

A) Paul Posluszny and Angelo Crowell have as advertised and better. I havent even noticed who the 3rd LB, and right now it doesnt matter. If they can get and sort of play from the DT this will be one of the best run stopping Defense's in the league.
B) Nothing from the DT. Absolutely nothing. If I was Perry Fewell, I would tell them to drop and grab ankles. At leas they would be productive in creating a large pile and keeping blockers off the LB's. That is all I have to say about them.
C) OL has been pretty good. I think they have done well. I would say that they are having a problem with pass blocking. I like the way they have opened up the holes. I think so far Langston Walker has done very well. I like the way he has been playing.
D) WR has been garbage. Ill throw TE in there too. Blame it on Losman....i wouldnt. At time Losman looks to have the time, yet no one to throw to. They have to do a better job. Either way the Bills need to adress this position. They need more weapons at this spot.
E) QB. After thinking about it, I think I have put too much on JP this early on. Granted he faced one of the best secondaries of all time with Denver, and then a D in Pitsburgh. It wont get any easier going against NE, NY and DAL. I was the first to bash im, but after watching a little closer, I see that he has the time to make plays, but nothing is open down field. Granted they are playing great defense, but the WR have to do their part toget open. I will ease up on JP for now. Give hima few more weeks.
E) DB's. Help is needed, but hasnt been as bad as it seems. Leonhard I think is trying real hard and playing well. I dont know what else to say.

Things I like
- Marshawn Lynch
-Linebackers
-OL
-Bend but dont break defense. If they had any offense to ustain drives they had a shot at beating the Steelers. I like this mentality. Would work because they don't have enough PLAY MAKERS. I would love to see Dan Connor the more I think of it. More so than a stud DT. Taking a stud DT in the 1st round, probably wont have him starting anyways. I would push to trade for one or via FA.

So far this is my breakdown of the two games.Some good things, and some bad.

I'd question our gameplanning. Denver and Pittsburgh had absolutely no respect for our deep passing. Until we open up the offense and at least show a deep pass, we aren't going to score much. I think our offense is playing not to lose rather than playing to win, far too conservative and worse, it isn't working.

BufFan71
09-18-2007, 06:05 PM
only one thing i disagree on....
the DT's arent doing bad...

McCargo has looked pretty good, just needs to be more consistant, same with Tripplet..
Williams has been non existant

Bills2083
09-18-2007, 06:12 PM
So far after two games here is my observation:


B) Nothing from the DT. Absolutely nothing. If I was Perry Fewell, I would tell them to drop and grab ankles. At leas they would be productive in creating a large pile and keeping blockers off the LB's. That is all I have to say about them.




B. The only D-lineman that I've been impressed with, is McCargo. He's getting pressure on the QB, and he's stopping the run in the backfield.

I agree with everything else.

Billingsley26
09-18-2007, 10:02 PM
B. The only D-lineman that I've been impressed with, is McCargo. He's getting pressure on the QB, and he's stopping the run in the backfield.

I agree with everything else.

Ya, remembering back, I think he made 2 stops in the backfield early on in the Steelers game. I hope that is a sign of good things to come.

HoopsDemon12
09-18-2007, 10:30 PM
Ya, remembering back, I think he made 2 stops in the backfield early on in the Steelers game. I hope that is a sign of good things to come.

it better be.. i basically like creid when we drafted him...

SuperMcGee
09-20-2007, 11:04 AM
Yet another Ohio State corner

Dustin Fox to the PS. I like it.

fischbowl
09-20-2007, 01:15 PM
Yet another Ohio State corner

Dustin Fox to the PS. I like it.

Isn't he a safety McGee? or am i thinking Vernon Fox?

SuperMcGee
09-20-2007, 03:27 PM
Dustin is a corner, he might've played both. He'll be a corner for us- we wouldn't sign another safety after bringing in Scott and the CB issue is the most pressing.

Bills2083
09-23-2007, 03:57 PM
wow we are terrible. wtf is wrong with our play calling???

SuperKevin
09-23-2007, 04:16 PM
How serious is JP's injury? Without him I think we have a very strong chance of going 1-15 with our only win being at home against Miami. Wouldn't it be our luck as Bills fans that the one year we get the #1 pick, there isn't a single player of need worth taking #1 overall.

HoopsDemon12
09-23-2007, 04:30 PM
Thats about it... there is really no one i can see us taking... i mean we took our RB last year... so McFadden is outta the picture... we "Upgraded" our oline so baker or long is unlikly... Dorsey? Campbell... whot he hell could we even take?

Bills2083
09-23-2007, 04:31 PM
Positions of need

WR
CB

potentially needs

LE
DT
QB
TE

HoopsDemon12
09-23-2007, 04:32 PM
Positions of need

WR
CB

potentially needs

LE
DT
QB
TE

petentially? seriously i would move that up near the top.. or DTs are terrible

Bills2083
09-23-2007, 04:37 PM
petentially? seriously i would move that up near the top.. or DTs are terrible

Well, McCargo has done pretty well

SuperMcGee
09-23-2007, 05:33 PM
I really want a top TE. A guy who can catch and block really well would be outstanding, it would have to be 2nd round, though.

Bills2083
09-23-2007, 06:33 PM
Just so you know, I know pretty much nothing about these players.

QB: Brohm, Woodson
WR: Sweed, Doucet, Bowman (who else would be a good possession WR?)
TE: Who's a good recieving TE?
DE: Can someone please fill in some names for the rest of these?
DT:
OLB:
CB:

BufFan71
09-23-2007, 06:45 PM
our dT's dont suck at bad as everyone thinks....
they are one of the solid spots on the defense

SuperMcGee
09-23-2007, 06:56 PM
our dT's dont suck at bad as everyone thinks....
they are one of the solid spots on the defense

They're also the only healthy position on our D.

We were without 5 starters from our back 7 when Poz went out. When Youboty cramped up, we were also without our top backups at LB and CB.

Billingsley26
09-23-2007, 07:57 PM
I dont know what to say. Really dont. I will have something to say tomorrow after I think about it.

BroadwayJoe10
09-23-2007, 08:13 PM
I still love lynch, and he was my favorite college player all last year and i think hes gonna be great for you guys. I wanted to check in to see what the deal with Poz was, i heard rumors of broken forearm? Hopefully not cause he seems like a good kid. Anyways, i don't think ull go 1-15 like previously said, you guys always take atleast one from us. I am really excited to see Schobel go agianst d'brick, because he made brick look overwhelmed a bunch of the time last year (brick has a harder time with the more powerful bullrusher type of DE's) and i think it will be a big test whether brick is improving or not.

SuperMcGee
09-23-2007, 09:01 PM
I dont know what to say. Really dont. I will have something to say tomorrow after I think about it.

Admit it, you're happy. PATS FAN!

Billingsley26
09-23-2007, 09:14 PM
Admit it, you're happy. PATS FAN!









Sorry, it's how I cope.

haha, well I am happy they won. And I look at it from two sides. I look at the PAtriots wining, and then the Bills losing. I will post my thoughts tomorrow some time. I just dont feel like writing them now. Especially being in Bills country where I really feel for the Bills and plus they hung with NE for the first quarter. Ill speak my mind soon enough.

Bills2083
09-23-2007, 09:25 PM
I still love lynch, and he was my favorite college player all last year and i think hes gonna be great for you guys. I wanted to check in to see what the deal with Poz was, i heard rumors of broken forearm? Hopefully not cause he seems like a good kid. Anyways, i don't think ull go 1-15 like previously said, you guys always take atleast one from us. I am really excited to see Schobel go agianst d'brick, because he made brick look overwhelmed a bunch of the time last year (brick has a harder time with the more powerful bullrusher type of DE's) and i think it will be a big test whether brick is improving or not.

Yes, Pos broke his forearm.

Bills2083
09-23-2007, 09:26 PM
haha, well I am happy they won. And I look at it from two sides. I look at the PAtriots wining, and then the Bills losing. I will post my thoughts tomorrow some time. I just dont feel like writing them now. Especially being in Bills country where I really feel for the Bills and plus they hung with NE for the first quarter. Ill speak my mind soon enough.

How are you a Bills AND Pats fan?!?!?!?

Billingsley26
09-23-2007, 09:31 PM
How are you a Bills AND Pats fan?!?!?!?

Been a Bills fan ever since I could watch football. My dad has two sets of seasons tickets one 3rd row behind the visitors bench and the others in the Van Miller club. My dad is a HUGE Boston fan. And I have followed him ever since I could watch sports. I have been a Pats fan for as long as I was a Bills fan.

SuperKevin
09-23-2007, 09:54 PM
Yes, Pos broke his forearm.

I still think Poz could come back after 2-3 weeks and just play with a cast

Bills2083
09-24-2007, 07:32 AM
I still think Poz could come back after 2-3 weeks and just play with a cast

hopefully thats the case. But if he reinjures it, he could be out for much longer...

SuperMcGee
09-24-2007, 01:14 PM
There's only one solution to our problems, and that window just opened:



Craig Nall.

fischbowl
09-24-2007, 05:02 PM
There's only one solution to our problems, and that window just opened:



Craig Nall.

i knew he'd be back.

Bills2083
09-24-2007, 05:04 PM
Who do we have at LB, now that Pos is on IR?

Haggan, Stamer, DiGiorgio, Crowell...

SuperMcGee
09-24-2007, 05:06 PM
Who do we have at LB, now that Pos is on IR?

Haggan, Stamer, DiGiorgio, Crowell...

Leon Joe-o-o-o-o

Billingsley26
09-24-2007, 05:59 PM
Well after some thought. Here is what I think at this point.

1. After having serious doubts about the DL, specifically the DT's, I have a much more concern for the LB's now. I feel that the rotation of DT's has worked out quite well. Tripplett, Mccargo and Williams have done a solid job. I am pleased with Williams and McCargo especially. McCargo seems to be getting a better push inside causing some problems. I am beginning to think that we might be able to write this off as a top draft priority.
2. I feel more and more that Pos was going to be a stud until he broke his forearm. I still think he is better than Patrick Willis and he was showing it. I think that next year, we go after another tPSU LB in Dan Connor. I think we still need another DE oppostie of Schobel, but we did sign Chris Kelsay to a big deal, and he hasnt been playing bad either. I often see him int he backfield making plays. If the DT and DE hold up, with the addition of Connor we could have one of the best fronts for years to come.
3. QB play?? What to say? Well, Trent Edwards looked real good on his first career drive. I still think that he was only that good because it WAS only his first drive and NE wouldn't know what to expect. I think he is capable to good things, just not yet. I would not hurry him in there although I hear JP could be out for 2-4 weeks. I am a fan of letting a QB mature and sit and watch, I.E Carson Palmer. I think Trent Edwards is a smart QB and has the where with all to be good. I like him, I wouldn't throw him in there right away tho. Let him learn for a little time.
4. I am thouroughly disgusted in the WR play. Is it just me or can a blind aligator get open easier then the Bills WR? Like I said before, Buffalo always settles for 2nd rate WR and they aren't going to win with it. They need people who can run crisp routes and make plays. Anyday I would go for a WR who runs solid routes and quicker as opposed to faster than a WR with blazing speed. I see Miami as wasting the #9 pick with a KR. Sadly that is all I see in Roscoe Parrish as well. Lee Evans needs to do a better job right now of getting open, or at least trying harder. From what I see of him, he isn't working like he did last year. We definately need an upgrade here.
5. I feel good about the OL. Right now that have been doing a good job of opening holes against two defenses that are known for their stunts and blitzes. I think they have a done a decent job in run blocking, however pass blocking has been some what of a concern at times. Overall, there is improveent and I am looking for us to see it this week. Im not sure if the Jets had a sack this week, and if so it would be their first. They do not get much of a push up front, and I think this will help the Bills in both the run and pass. Especailly the day Ronnie Brown had. I am expecting big things from this OL this week.

I was pleased with the performance during the first quarter. I thought the DL and LB played very well. I thought I should add that I personally think that the CB's had ight coverage on Randy Moss. If Jabari Greer was taller Moss wouldnt have half those yards. Things are going to look up for this week. Maybe not the following week, but for now Im banking on the first win of the season. I think it can happen. Its up to the DL to control the defense now. They are all we got right now.

SuperMcGee
09-24-2007, 06:22 PM
I can't wait for Hargrove and hopefully Denney soon to be back. Schobel and Kelsay are playing an inordinate amount of snaps, and our currently inactive backups are no slouches.

Yeah, Jabari had good coverage. It's a shame. He's still our 2nd best.

And I'll agree, we do need Chris Denney.

I hope we can really find a way to torch the Jets this week. Lynch has been our only weapon so far, and without Losman's gun I hope we can catch them creeping up and just burn them over the top. Hopefully our coaches/Edwards/shut down wideouts can make it happen.

BufFan71
09-24-2007, 06:48 PM
We need to sign Thaddaeus Washington

and we signed Craig Nall, this is his oppertunity

cant wait for hargrove---- this team is lacking energy, and he is the hypeman

SuperMcGee
09-26-2007, 12:54 PM
Leon Joe is the likely starter for Sunday. Fun fun. Ellison is progressing though. Kevin Harrison was re-signed to bring us back up to 6 healthy LB.

And yes, NFLE star Gibran Hamdan is on the PS

7 guys on IR. UnBillievable, especially since we're carrying more than handful of injured guys.

fischbowl
09-26-2007, 04:07 PM
Leon Joe is the likely starter for Sunday. Fun fun. Ellison is progressing though. Kevin Harrison was re-signed to bring us back up to 6 healthy LB.

And yes, NFLE star Gibran Hamdan is on the PS

7 guys on IR. UnBillievable, especially since we're carrying more than handful of injured guys.

was Eakin released McGee?

Bills2083
09-26-2007, 05:12 PM
^^Yes, Eakin was released.

Bills2083
09-26-2007, 05:13 PM
Whittle put on IR. http://buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5303

HoopsDemon12
09-26-2007, 05:19 PM
We just cant stay healthy:|

Billingsley26
09-30-2007, 07:49 PM
Am I able to say to anyone.....

I TOLD YOU SO!

good win today

marv levy's older brother
10-01-2007, 02:27 PM
Did McCargo Play, I was not able to watch the game and he did not appear in the box scores.

Billingsley26
10-01-2007, 04:12 PM
Did McCargo Play, I was not able to watch the game and he did not appear in the box scores.

Yes sir. He didnt look bad either. Once again he got upfeild, and made some pays in the backfield. He did a good job. Im beginnig to think that we shouldn't think of DT in the first round.

Bills2083
10-01-2007, 07:48 PM
He's the only impressive DT on our team. Everyone else is pretty bad...

BufFan71
10-01-2007, 08:08 PM
yeah mccargo has showed alot of flashes early in the season

as for Greer lookin pretty good
along with Peters

Bills2083
10-01-2007, 08:11 PM
Peters has looked good, but he seems to have a false start or two every game.

SuperMcGee
10-03-2007, 01:53 PM
I really really hope Leonhard is not out long. Scott starting :/

In lighter news, Jabari earned AFC DPOW honors. Because he rules!

Bills2083
10-03-2007, 09:32 PM
Who's starting at SS if Donte is at FS?

marv levy's older brother
10-04-2007, 07:46 PM
At the start of the season it was .539, it is now down to .500. I thought it would be lower, but it would be interesting to see if it trends lower over the next few games.
I want to say they can go 8 and 8 but I wont. I see 3 easier games, (Miami, and the jets) but if Edwards wins one game against a team with a decent defense and winning record, then he will have exceeded my expectations for the team this year.

fischbowl
10-04-2007, 09:36 PM
Who's starting at SS if Donte is at FS?

SCott. eww :(

Geo
10-05-2007, 12:54 PM
Just heard on ESPN Radio that Peerless Price is out for the season. Geez.


Dear injury bug nesting in the Bills locker room,

Get lost, you twerp. I'm going to kill you with a flamethrower.

Sincerely,

Geo

SuperMcGee
10-05-2007, 01:24 PM
Can't believe it, I really didn't even know there was a problem with Peerless.


This leaves us with 4 WR, one of them being Sam Aiken, who really shouldn't be on the field if not for special teams.

EDIT- make that 9 on the IR, forgot about Harrison.

HoopsDemon12
10-05-2007, 01:25 PM
Were gonan have as many guys on the I.R this year by the end of the season as the winless bucs did back in the day.. wow this is terrible

Bills2083
10-05-2007, 04:20 PM
here's the link to the article. He's having surgery on his neck

WR: Evans
WR: Reed
WR: Parrish
WR: Aiken
WR: ????

SuperMcGee
10-05-2007, 04:31 PM
here's the link to the article. He's having surgery on his neck

WR: Evans
WR: Reed
WR: Parrish
WR: Aiken
WR: ????

Damn your bum knee, Chris Denney!

I liked the role Reed has played for us, but I'm not so comfortable with him as a starting flanker. Hopefully the tight ends can keep up the production over the middle.

Bills2083
10-05-2007, 04:42 PM
^Reed is good at getting open in the middle of the field. I hope someone steps up.

BTW, who's available in FA? (besides of Antonio Bryant. I dont see us signing him with his character problems)

SuperKevin
10-05-2007, 05:01 PM
I can see Scott mayle being promoted from the practice squad soon. Although he's in the same mold as the rest of our WRs

SuperKevin
10-05-2007, 05:11 PM
BTW, who's available in FA? (besides of Antonio Bryant. I dont see us signing him with his character problems)


The list of current veterans available is weak

Rod Gardner
Taylor Jacobs
bethel johnson
Kevin Kasper
Travis taylor
Billy mcMullen
Az Hakim
Clarence moore
Corey bradford

the list of players available on practice squads

Chandler Williams FIU (Miami)
Dallas Baker Florida (Pittsburgh)
Cro Thorpe Florida State (Indy)
Biren Ealy Houston (Tennessee)
Brandon london UMass (NYG)

SuperMcGee
10-05-2007, 05:20 PM
Biren Ealy. Do it now.

Geo
10-05-2007, 06:53 PM
You can scratch Craphonso Thorpe from that list, the Colts just activated him to the 53-man roster. I'm glad they managed to keep him on the practice squad, he looked very good in the preseason, I thought.

SuperKevin
10-06-2007, 01:22 AM
It's hard to be optimistic going into Monday Night's game with the Cowboys but I feel the one thing we have going for us is that Dallas is due for a loss. I find it very reasonable to imagine them overlooking us and putting it into cruise control and being upset. then again this only works out if Trent Edwards can play well for a 2nd straight week

OTcoach
10-08-2007, 08:35 AM
The list of current veterans available is weak

Rod Gardner
Taylor Jacobs
bethel johnson
Kevin Kasper
Travis taylor
Billy mcMullen
Az Hakim
Clarence moore
Corey bradford

the list of players available on practice squads

Chandler Williams FIU (Miami)
Dallas Baker Florida (Pittsburgh)
Cro Thorpe Florida State (Indy)
Biren Ealy Houston (Tennessee)
Brandon london UMass (NYG)


I'd go with Dallas Baker did you see that guy in the BCS championship? He's not the fastest but he's big and will go anywhere to catch a ball....

SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 12:25 PM
I wish there was a BillsBackers club near here i could watch this game with. We don't get many Bills games on the West Coast. I'll just have to tailgate by myself in my living room

HoopsDemon12
10-08-2007, 12:33 PM
I wish there was a BillsBackers club near here i could watch this game with. We don't get many Bills games on the West Coast. I'll just have to tailgate by myself in my living room

Ya i barely ever get to catch more than 2 gamesa a season out here. This year im blessed to get my third by week 5. And i Monday night footabll game to.. wow should be fun

SuperKevin
10-08-2007, 01:06 PM
Ya i barely ever get to catch more than 2 gamesa a season out here. This year im blessed to get my third by week 5. And i Monday night footabll game to.. wow should be fun

I just found out we do have a San Diego Bills Backers club. Might go check it out later tonight.

SuperKevin
10-09-2007, 12:40 AM
Man we need an offense bad. Any other team would have won by 3 TDs after forcing 6 turnovers

SuperKevin
10-09-2007, 01:47 AM
Tonights game gave me hope for the rest of the season. I think we proved that despite injuries, our defense can still make the big play. Now if our offense wakes up I think we can win 5 more games this year and end up with a pick around 9 or 10

Billingsley26
10-09-2007, 10:26 AM
Well, after listening to WGR after the game last night, I have lost all respect for Schopp and the Bulldog. I think they are idiots, and they totally changed ym view on the game. If you heard the post game, you know what Im talking about.

1. Trent Edwards: Looked good. I like the way he managed the game. Made some key throws and worked the small ball very well. Still could throw and test them deeper, but that will come. He made that bad INT, but you know that hes a rookie QB, and he wasnt going to make every throw. I was expecting Trent to throw about 2 picks that game, but he did VERY WELL. I dont hold blame to him.
2. OL: Great job on Dallas' pash rush. Damarcus Ware was a non factor. Jason Peters held im in tact the whole game. They tried running at him and throwing to this side all day. Good job. I think that if Peters isnt i nthe top 10 in OT, then he should be now. They opened up holes, but I really admred the job that they did holding the pass rush down.
3. WR: Not a bad job, but I still think we lack a big play WR. I thought that Lee Evans was beginning to become to upset with his lack of catches, but after seeing him run down Newman, I know hes a baller, and he'll come to play. Good job, but still, I think we need some more weapons.
4. DE: Pretty good job, but we didnt apply that much pressure enough to sac Romo. We got him to hurry throws, and that did work out for the better. Not a bad job.
5.DT: Again, Mccargo has stepped up. He made some big plays, getting upfield and making plays in the backfield. Aswell as getting a good pash rush. Good job by the DT.
6. DB: GREAT JOB. I dont think I have seen such a good job from Buffalo DB's in a long time. They didnt give up the deep ball, they held T.O in tact. Not bad on Witten. Like I said before, they are taking a bend but dont break view, and it is working.

Overall, I like what I saw from the Bills. I didnt expect the Bills to get blown out as I said before, but I also didnt expect the defense to make plays like they did. Buffalo is a young team, rookie QB, rookie RB, a bunch of second rate WR, a scrub-filled defense with several starters on the IR, and they manage to hang with the "supposed" #3 team in the league.

The BUZZ is back in Buffalo. They will continue to get better, and looking at the schedule right now I think they could win the next 4 games in Baltimore, NY Jets, Cincinatti and Miami, and right there we're back to 5-5 and in Wild Card contention. I like this team, and I dont really blame any one person for the loss, there were alot of plays that they could've made on both sides of the ball even ST that could've won the game.

The bend but dont break scheme for the defense looks like ite working. The offense is beginning to come together and will only get better. I am proud of this team right now, and I feel good for them. Even tho we lost that type of game, the BUZZ is back, and I think they will continue to get the support that they got last night. I dont think Ive seen a game like that in Buffalo. The Bills are back!!!!

SuperKevin
10-09-2007, 12:20 PM
I am going to have to be negative for just a moment. Anyone else think that it might be a bad thing that all of these backups and role players are starting to step up? They aren't going to keep their jobs when the starters get healthy and it could lead to a bunch of them leaving in free agency to find better chances for playing time. I'm mainly talking about Jabari Greer and John DiGiorgio