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thebow305
05-08-2007, 01:38 PM
I know this season hasn't been played out yet, but USC's linebackers appear to be the nation's best and maybe one of the top groups ever. Who would you take?

USC Key Players: ILB Rey Maualuga, OLB Keith Rivers, OLB Brian Cushing

OSU Key Players: ILB Anthony Schlegel, OLB A.J. Hawk, OLB Bobby Carpenter

Both Carpenter and Hawk went in the first round. And I believe, at this point, all of USC's guys have first round potential. Tell me what you think.

Ho0k Em'
05-08-2007, 01:40 PM
I would put USC ahead in both talent and depth.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-08-2007, 01:41 PM
I really did like the 05' Ohio State backers. They were just all over the field, and made all of the plays.

thebow305
05-08-2007, 01:42 PM
I would put OSU ahead in both talent and depth.

What about in terms of just the top guys, in other words, depth not included.

Ho0k Em'
05-08-2007, 01:44 PM
What about in terms of just the top guys, in other words, depth not included.

I meant to say USC i had written something longer than edited wrong. I think it's pretty close. I think Hawk is better than Rey by a good amount. Cushing and Carpenter compare pretty well. And Rivers is a good amount better than Schegel so I go with USC by a hair. If Rey can be the playmaker than we know he can be,

hornybastard
05-08-2007, 01:51 PM
Whoops put the SC LBs by mistake. OSU killed with tere LBs

gstock05
05-08-2007, 01:54 PM
Depends if you're talking college or pro potential.

I'd say they're even at a pro level simply because Schlegel wasn't the athletic pro guy that the USC guys are. However, as far as College, I don't think it's that close. OSU's backers simply made plays... regardless of athleticism. They were extremely smart and instinctual in terms of where to be, not to mention they were all great pass rushers.

P-L
05-08-2007, 01:54 PM
I'd take the OSU's LB over USC's by a little bit.

A.J. Hawk > Keith Rivers
Anthony Schlegel < Rey Maualuga
Bobby Carpenter > Brian Cushing

benchod
05-08-2007, 02:09 PM
Just considering that we've seen everything that the OSU group has done, I would take the USC group because they compare favorably now (not good enough yet), but seem to have the potential to surpass the OSU trio.

JoeMontainya
05-08-2007, 02:13 PM
AJ Hawk is one of the best college LB's in the last 20 years, is anyone of UCS's LB's deserving of that? no. And on top of that Carpenter > Cushing

and who brought up depth goes to USC?
Our depth was James Lauranitus, and Marcus Freeman, 2 players who most likely will be 1st RD LB's when there done.

moc182
05-08-2007, 02:14 PM
I'd take USC's group. If you take the top two from each team its basically a wash in my eyes, but Schelgel isn't close to the level of whatever SC guy you want to label their third best linebacker.

remix 6
05-08-2007, 02:35 PM
i'll take DJ Williams and Vilma anyday :)

etk
05-08-2007, 03:18 PM
I assume this is about pro potential considering how it's in the Draft Forum.

It's not even close if that's the case. Anthony Schlegel is absolutely useless in the Pro Game. He's too slow to play MLB or ILB and even too unathletic for special teams. He's barely seen the field for the Jets and never will. Carpenter & Hawk are much better than any 2 LBs on USC but Schlegel makes this an easy discussion: Rivers, Maualaga & Cushing win.

DI
05-08-2007, 03:43 PM
Southern Cal Takes It. Schelgel is the Weakest One out of the Six

ricky bobby
05-08-2007, 03:55 PM
USC has a great freshman coming in on top of that. He destroyed in the Army Allstar game.

Phrost
05-08-2007, 05:07 PM
USC doesn't have a top 5 prospect do they?

Phrost
05-08-2007, 05:09 PM
And by the way, this thread will show who has more homers on the this board, USC or OSU.

ThePudge
05-08-2007, 06:24 PM
USC has a great freshman coming in on top of that. He destroyed in the Army Allstar game.

Ohio State had a couple great freshmen back in 2005 in James Laurinaitis and Marcus Freeman.

Overall, I'll go with Ohio State by a bit. A.J. Hawk was unbelievable, all over the place. Bobby Carpenter was a terrific pass rusher, and Anthony Schlegel was great against the run and just a powerful presence in the middle. All three played with intensity and range, making them very fun to watch. It's nothing against USC's guys, but the chemistry of those guys at OSU was great.

TankGiant
05-08-2007, 06:35 PM
I chose Ohio State. Hawk and Carpenter made plays all over the field. The new kid USC has though Chris Galippo is going to be ridiculous.

Phrost
05-08-2007, 06:45 PM
Which one is this?
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4/darthjango1/USCHit-1.gif

Green Bay Scat
05-08-2007, 07:28 PM
im still shocked that hit didnt get a Helmet to Helmet call.

VoteLynnSwan
05-08-2007, 07:56 PM
Which one is this?
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4/darthjango1/USCHit-1.gif

Rey Maualuga

YAYareaRB
05-08-2007, 08:27 PM
i'll take DJ Williams and Vilma anyday :)

QFT!!! 10 Rule

Yung Flippa
05-08-2007, 08:40 PM
i'll go with
OSU

YAYareaRB
05-08-2007, 08:49 PM
I think after this season and watching Maualuga people are going tobe asking.. A.J. Who?

Dolfan2788
05-08-2007, 09:16 PM
QFT!!! 10 Rule

wtf does that mean

keylime_5
05-08-2007, 10:34 PM
AJ Hawk is one of the best college backers of all time. Might have been the best of the 2000s decade but that is very very arguable. Rivers and Maulaga are great, but Hawk and Carpenter were invincible at tOSU. Schlegel was very solid and was famous for destroying Mike Hart in 2005. James Laurinatis was a key reserve on that team too.

2005 OSU and 2007 USC in that order are probably the 2 best college LB units of this decade. 2003 Miami was pretty good too though, probably right up there.

Iamcanadian
05-09-2007, 11:42 AM
I absolutely love Hawk but he is an OLB while Rey Maualuga is a MLB from the Ray Lewis mold. If Rey can even approach Hawk in talent then USC by a hair. Rivers appears to be better than Carpenter although injuries may have ended Carpenter's career(I'm guessing here based on Dallas drafting Spencer. Dallas is either considering moving Carpenter inside or they feel he may never recover from his injuries). Cushing/Schlegel may be a wash.

-black
05-09-2007, 12:15 PM
watching him in the HS All American game leads me to believe Chris Gallipo can end up being better than everyone named in this thread

RoyHall#1
05-09-2007, 12:36 PM
wtf does that mean

Quote For Truth. wtf does wtf mean?

I have to go with OSU as they are more top heavy with 2 elite players while USC only has one in Mauluaga.

constant cough
05-09-2007, 12:50 PM
I like the USC linebackers fine but I voted OSU for no other reason than AJ Hawk alone.

Sportsfan486
05-09-2007, 12:58 PM
I like the USC linebackers fine but I voted OSU for no other reason than AJ Hawk alone.

Yeah, he was such an elite talent I can't vote against him. Besides, Carpenter was probably as good as any of the USC 'backers so when you've got the top 2 it's hard to argue.

tEk
05-09-2007, 01:03 PM
AJ Hawk is hideous. for that reason alone i went USC. j/k. but USC for me.

BUTerriers
05-09-2007, 01:08 PM
Considering how few LBs have gone in the top 5 in past years, AJ Hawk going number five in what many consider one of the deepest drafts in quite some time tells you just what kind of player he is (and he would have likely gone number 2 to the Saints if the Texans had taken Bush). I like Rey, but he hasn't shown the athleticism or the talent of Hawk, and until he does, OSU wins this battle. Rey could be a top 10 pick, but there is little to no chance that he goes as high as Hawk did, and I can't see him having the NFL career that Hawk seems to be primed for. He's just such a special player that he easily makes up for Schlegel not being much of a pro prospect (though he was a decent, if not great college player.)

OhioState
05-09-2007, 01:12 PM
I absolutely love Hawk but he is an OLB while Rey Maualuga is a MLB from the Ray Lewis mold. If Rey can even approach Hawk in talent then USC by a hair. Rivers appears to be better than Carpenter although injuries may have ended Carpenter's career(I'm guessing here based on Dallas drafting Spencer. Dallas is either considering moving Carpenter inside or they feel he may never recover from his injuries). Cushing/Schlegel may be a wash.

carpenter made a full recovery from his injuries but he played a reserve role until greg ellis went down last year and then he got some time. If anything they drafted spencer because they are worried about ellis's health as he tore his acl. Also spencer is more similar to ellis, a rushbacker end/lb type while carpenter can play better in coverage and also on the inside

OhioState
05-09-2007, 04:22 PM
Anyway, i would definitly take OSU because A.J. is easily better than anyone that USC has, Carpenter is better than anyone USC has and even though schlegel might not be as good as the others i think that Hawk and Carpenter give the vote to The Ohio State University

Mitch
05-09-2007, 05:06 PM
If anything they drafted spencer because they are worried about ellis's health as he tore his acl.

what? when?

keylime_5
05-09-2007, 08:26 PM
Yeah, Carp and Hawk were both All Americans in 2005. Hawk was a two time all american (though he got snubbed in 2003 after an amazing breakout season).

Going by where they were/will be drafted.....Hawk went 5th. Carpenter went 18th, Schlegel went 3rd round. Laurinaitis will probably go in the first 3 rounds. At USC Rivers will be a top 25 pick probably. Rey M. will probably be a top 15 to top 20 pick. Cushing could go 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round maybe - maybe not. But I think Rivers and Rey M. will both be great pros. Hopefully Carpenter can get it going in Dallas as an ILB.

fenikz
05-09-2007, 09:26 PM
USC for Depth
OSU for Talent

you cant really have a better college core of LBs than OSU did that year

keylime_5
05-09-2007, 09:37 PM
Yeah after USC's recent recruiting success they are probably neck deep in 4 and 5 star LB talent. Freakin' Hollywooders.

YAYareaRB
05-09-2007, 09:50 PM
Yeah after USC's recent recruiting success they are probably neck deep in 4 and 5 star LB talent. [b]Freakin' Hollywooders[b/].

Don't you just love us? USC is searching for the Home Grown talent here on the West Coast.. Unless, they are just ridiculous like Joe McKnight

OhioState
05-10-2007, 05:50 AM
what? when?

My bad, it was his achilles not ACL but it still was a season ending injury

Grizzlegom
05-10-2007, 10:48 AM
how about 2006 PSU?

Connor
Poz
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bored of education
05-10-2007, 10:49 AM
AJ Hawk is godly thats all the needs to be said.