Houston Texans Discussion

[jjmt2500]

I thought Schaub played well and did what he could with what he had. Obviously if Rackers doesn't miss the first FG, if Vickers doesn't drop the wide open pass, if Brisel doesnt have that face mask penalty, then the game would have had a different outcome. Herschel was right that they would put all they had to stop the run because our OL stunk. Foster didn't have much to work with and Schaub didn't have much time and still threw for almost 450 yards. I don't think he would have made it if he ran at the end. There was a Raider at the goal line that would have stopped him. I think that is what Matt saw and then took a bad chance at throwing it up to someone that isn't that tall, strong, and doesn't have that great of a vertical. He committed to rolling out so he might as well have taken the hit and a chance to run it in. I still doubt he would have made it though. We had guys play much worse than to put the blame on Schaub.

Yeah he puts up great numbers, but whenever the game is on the line he chokes. Im not saying get rid of him or anything like that, all im saying is that he doesnt have that winner mentality.

[jayceheathman]

Yeah he puts up great numbers, but whenever the game is on the line he chokes. Im not saying get rid of him or anything like that, all im saying is that he doesnt have that winner mentality.

I think it's tough to say that based on the Raiders game because the pressure got him outside the pocket and our WR's without Johnson are pretty bad. I agree with the comment that was wondering why Jacoby is still around. He hasn't done much on special teams or at WR when we needed him the most. Schaub would be considered a winner had Vickers not dropped the easiest pass he will ever get in his career.

[jjmt2500]

That last play Oakland only had 10 defenders on the field and we couldnt take advantage of that. Sad.

[datchapin]

one should be used to the .500 mark by now right. not even sure what to say. Sux we lost AJ and Mario.

[jjmt2500]

Great game today and we have a cake schedule coming up.. I like the way things are looking.

Cush for defensive player of the year!!!!

[jayceheathman]

Danieal Manning broke his leg and is now out for the year. It just keeps getting better and better.

[jjmt2500]

Danieal Manning broke his leg and is now out for the year. It just keeps getting better and better.

I dont think Nolan is much of a down grade. This doesnt worry me to much.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I am really upset. Everything is lining up perfectly for the Texans to walk into the playoffs. And they keep shooting themselves in the foot! This is really frustrating.

[jjmt2500]

I am really upset. Everything is lining up perfectly for the Texans to walk into the playoffs. And they keep shooting themselves in the foot! This is really frustrating.

As fustrated and angry as i get after a loss, we have to understand that only 2 teams have gone the regular season undefeated. Green Bay went into the playoffs last season as a wild card.

We have lost 3 games, to 3 good teams. Two of those games were in very tough stadiums to play in. The rest of our schedule is easy. Im sure we will drop 1 or 2 more but will have no problem making the playoffs and making a nice run in the playoffs.

[America]

Great win today. Offense and defense both played really well.

[America]

Houston Texans #1 Defense in the league. Who would have predicted that?

[America]

Hope yall have seen this...http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/09000d5d823f4a30/Sound-FX-Brian-Cushing

[Caddy]

We could put 11 men in the box and Arian Foster would still run for 200+ yards.

Unless our D forces multiple turnovers I'm not looking forward to the end result of this game.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Couple of quick opinions-

-I sure wish they would pull Kareem Jackson from the starting lineup. I don't think he is a NFL caliber starting corner. The rest of the defense (which is playing out of their minds for the most part) is masking one of the worst corners in the game.

-This offense is totally different without Andre Johnson. I know a lot of people would say that is me being captain obvious. But It seems like when most team's #1 receiver goes down, the offense still tries to do the same things. They just can't because they have a lesser player starting. With the Texans, it seems like when Andre is out Schaub starts throwing to the tight ends first. I have not compared stats to justify my opinion, so I can't say that it is true for sure. But it seems like the tight ends are the #1 receivers. Maybe this shows that Kubiak is a good coach. I don't know. But I just got done telling someone I think Andre is one of the top "players most valuable to their team."

-It should be, without a doubt, clear sailing to the playoffs from here. I can't imagine the team screwing this up.

[cunningham06]

Couple of quick opinions-

-I sure wish they would pull Kareem Jackson from the starting lineup. I don't think he is a NFL caliber starting corner. The rest of the defense (which is playing out of their minds for the most part) is masking one of the worst corners in the game.

-This offense is totally different without Andre Johnson. I know a lot of people would say that is me being captain obvious. But It seems like when most team's #1 receiver goes down, the offense still tries to do the same things. They just can't because they have a lesser player starting. With the Texans, it seems like when Andre is out Schaub starts throwing to the tight ends first. I have not compared stats to justify my opinion, so I can't say that it is true for sure. But it seems like the tight ends are the #1 receivers. Maybe this shows that Kubiak is a good coach. I don't know. But I just got done telling someone I think Andre is one of the top "players most valuable to their team."

-It should be, without a doubt, clear sailing to the playoffs from here. I can't imagine the team screwing this up.

A playoff spot is ours to lose, we just need to not screw it up and stay healthy and I think we could make a deep run.

Andre Johnson just adds that extra dimension to our offense since he can do it all. Our offense is so much less explosive without him taking the top off a defense. Come next April I think we should go after a WR in round 1. When Andre goes down with injury, as is tradition, we don't have a guy who can fill the void.

If you told me before the season started that our offensive line and defense would be the strengths of our team I would have called you crazy. It's amazing since those have been problem areas throughout nearly all of our history. I wish we would work in Brandon Harris more often to nickel and dime packages. While Jason Allen has actually had some good moments this year it's clear he's not starting material so I don't know why we don't give Harris more chances to prove himself.

[jayceheathman]

I am hoping I can go to the Carolina game in a few weeks. Going to school out of state makes it really difficult to go to games. I have to hope we have a home game during Thanksgiving or Christmas break.

[jjmt2500]

After so many years of bad football this is soooo much fun to watch. Rick Smith and Kubs should get an award for bringing in Wade. Its unbelievable that we can go from worst to first in defense in one season. Joesph is playing amazing, i wouldnt even say that Revis is playing better than him. Cush is playing like a mad man.

Kubs is doing an amazing job of calling plays. Dre goes down and we keep going. I hope we stick with the same game plan even when Dre comes back.

Again this is amazing to watch. I think we will end up with the number 1 spot in the AFC...

[SolidGold]

Houston is legit, that defense is mean and plays with a relentless energy. I love the dedication to the run game too. Once Andre Johnson returns that offense should become explosive again. Walter, Daniels and Jones all benefited from Johnson's presence in the line up (obviously).

[jayceheathman]

After so many years of bad football this is soooo much fun to watch. Rick Smith and Kubs should get an award for bringing in Wade. Its unbelievable that we can go from worst to first in defense in one season. Joesph is playing amazing, i wouldnt even say that Revis is playing better than him. Cush is playing like a mad man.

Kubs is doing an amazing job of calling plays. Dre goes down and we keep going. I hope we stick with the same game plan even when Dre comes back.

Again this is amazing to watch. I think we will end up with the number 1 spot in the AFC...

I will admit that I didn't like the Wade Phillips signing at all but they are proving me wrong big time. I didn't like the idea of taking one of the most talented 4-3 DE's and making him an OLB but they are getting it done even with Mario sitting out. Joseph has been insane like you mentioned. I wasn't too fond of passing on Prince Amukamara but Joseph is making up for it.

[Ness]

You guys are having a hell of a season. I usually like to keep tabs on the Texans because I have a lot of respect for their offense and Gary Kubiak used to be on the 49ers with Mike Shanahan and I've always respected those two guys for the work they did here in San Francisco for their short stint and the work they did in Denver. Houston still has a chance to even get a first round bye in the AFC. The rest of their schedule isn't that bad. Good luck along the rest of the way.

[jayceheathman]

We just can't get rid of the injury bug. Mario Williams, Andre Johnson, Danieal Manning, Arian Foster, and now Matt Schaub will miss some time. Leinart has wanted a chance to shine and he got it. I think he will prove why he was a first round pick in a couple of weeks.

[cunningham06]

****......

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8241ea19/article/texans-already-rule-out-qb-schaub-for-week-12-vs-jaguars?module=HP11_headline_stack

[BRAVEHEART]

Leinart Time!!!!

http://drunkathlete.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/matt-leinart-1-drunk-pictures1.jpg

[America]

I Have Faith In Matt Leinart!

[jjmt2500]

I Have Faith In Matt Leinart!

Me too... plus our d isnt giving up very many points...

[jayceheathman]

Guess who was on my plane ride back home to Houston tonight? The one, the only, Antonio Smith. The guy carries around Luis Vuitton luggage. haha

[jjmt2500]

Guess who was on my plane ride back home to Houston tonight? The one, the only, Antonio Smith. The guy carries around Luis Vuitton luggage. haha

Awesome.... Did he have any of his ninja gear on???

[jayceheathman]

Awesome.... Did he have any of his ninja gear on???

haha Nope. I saw him at the ticket counter to get on the plane and I thought for sure he looks familiar. After thinking about it it finally hit me that it was Antonio Smith. No one else recogized him although one guy said "there is some guy who looks like a football player up there. He is huge." Rich people still fly Southwest. haha

[jjmt2500]

haha Nope. I saw him at the ticket counter to get on the plane and I thought for sure he looks familiar. After thinking about it it finally hit me that it was Antonio Smith. No one else recogized him although one guy said "there is some guy who looks like a football player up there. He is huge." Rich people still fly Southwest. haha

Hey even rich people want there bags to fly free...

[cunningham06]

haha Nope. I saw him at the ticket counter to get on the plane and I thought for sure he looks familiar. After thinking about it it finally hit me that it was Antonio Smith. No one else recogized him although one guy said "there is some guy who looks like a football player up there. He is huge." Rich people still fly Southwest. haha

That's awesome, the only Texan I've ever seen in the airport was Ephraim Salaam. Yours is the cooler sighting since Antonio Smith's been a beast this year.

Excited for Sunday to see how the "new look" Texans perform. In Leinart we trust.

[America]

That's awesome, the only Texan I've ever seen in the airport was Ephraim Salaam. Yours is the cooler sighting since Antonio Smith's been a beast this year.

Excited for Sunday to see how the "new look" Texans perform. In Leinart we trust.

EPHRAIM!!!!

[America]

I believe in TJ Yates...

[jjmt2500]

They are saying broken collarbone.... ****!!!!

[America]

Bring back Favre!!!

[jjmt2500]

I prefer Yates over Farve. Im not ready to give up on this season... Lets go Yates!!!!

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I would rather have Yates also. But the truth is this team is in the playoffs, barring a meltdown. Another quarterback has to be brought in. I think they should try anyone that might be able to play. The coaches may be playing for their jobs. They can't feel 100% comfortable with Yates alone.

If they don't and it goes south, they will be butchered by everyone. Hindsight is always 20/20. I hope they do the right thing and bring in a couple of guys. They can not waste this opportunity.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

And by the way-Jonathan Joseph is the best free agent acquisition I can remember a team making since Deion went to the 49ers or Reggie White went to the pack. He was money well spent, and a shoe in for the pro bowl.

JJ Watt = the right draft pick. Funny to look back and see how many people originally dogged that pick. Wade Phillips deserves a TON of credit for this year's success.

[jayceheathman]

And by the way-Jonathan Joseph is the best free agent acquisition I can remember a team making since Deion went to the 49ers or Reggie White went to the pack. He was money well spent, and a shoe in for the pro bowl.

JJ Watt = the right draft pick. Funny to look back and see how many people originally dogged that pick. Wade Phillips deserves a TON of credit for this year's success.

I agree with Joseph. He has been a beast.

I liked the pick but only would have made it had Prince been off the board. I had a feeling we would pick him because his personality completely fits what Kubiak and Smith love. He has definitely been a beast. With Prince being injured, it is too early to tell which pick would have been better.

[jjmt2500]

And by the way-Jonathan Joseph is the best free agent acquisition I can remember a team making since Deion went to the 49ers or Reggie White went to the pack. He was money well spent, and a shoe in for the pro bowl.

JJ Watt = the right draft pick. Funny to look back and see how many people originally dogged that pick. Wade Phillips deserves a TON of credit for this year's success.

Joseph has out preformed ASO by a mile. Great move by Kubs and Smith.

I hated the Watt pick when it was made, I was very wrong.

With the way Barwin and Reed are playing i dont see us resigning Mario..

[jjmt2500]

Conner Barwin AFC defensive player of the month... Mario who???

[SolidGold]

Conner Barwin AFC defensive player of the month... Mario who???

I think Mario is gone in free agency, they honestly don't need him and he is a better fit in the 4-3. He was a very good pick though, he panned out unlike Bush or Vince Young who were the other two guys the Texans could have picked in the 2006 draft.

I really hope Yates is competent enough to get you guys to the playoffs. I think his experience as a 4 year starter will help him and Kubiak obviously saw something in him to draft him. I will be pulling for the Texans the rest of the season.

[jjmt2500]

9-3!!!! I feel really good about TJ after today..

[CJSchneider]

Your win over Atlanta is greatly appreciated.

Sincerely, Saints fans.

[comahan]

D played well, Yates showed promise, and the crowd was GREAT.

But Andre coming up lame again takes a lot of that good feeling away.

[jayceheathman]

Any updates on AJ yet? Might as well sit him for the remainder of the regular season if it is nothing that serious.

[comahan]

Kubiak said at the presser that it was a mild strain, that hes day to day, and that its 'very fortunate' it turned out how it did.

[jayceheathman]

Kubiak said at the presser that it was a mild strain, that hes day to day, and that its 'very fortunate' it turned out how it did.

That is good to hear. With our 2 game lead, I would sit him out for at least a few weeks. We need him for the playoffs.

[jjmt2500]

Hartmann done for the year. I really liked the way he played, he was such a huge upgrade over Turk. THe Reliant turf claims another...

[FootballGod]

That is good to hear. With our 2 game lead, I would sit him out for at least a few weeks. We need him for the playoffs.

I would appreciate it if Johnson sat out this weekend vs. my Bengals. Our secondary is all sorts of banged up and he would destroy us. I have tickets to the game and did not pay for them to see Johnson light it up so go ahead and sit out big boy.

[America]

Hartmann done for the year. I really liked the way he played, he was such a huge upgrade over Turk. THe Reliant turf claims another...

And Turk might be coming back...

[jjmt2500]

AFC South Champs!!!!!!!!!!

[cunningham06]

PLAYOFFS!!!!! I can't believe it, we're long overdue.

Now I just have to find tickets....

[America]

Reliant is going to be raging out of control.

[jjmt2500]

Wade Phillips out for the next 2 games... WTF!!! i have never believed in curses but im starting to now...

[Jimmy]

i'm sorry... but that was just ****ing atrocious overage by jonathan joseph on that play. may have cost me my fantasy football season too.

[America]

Tough loss to take but the team will get its Mojo back these next few weeks. Hopefully Yates doesn't have another bad day.

[jayceheathman]

I was worried about this game. I had a feeling we would be on the high horse after clinching the playoffs for the first time as well as not having Phillips on the sideline and not play to our potential.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I have been gone for a while, but I have to get on some of these comments. Please forgive my rant.

Mario can not be let go...

I know the defense has not suffered while he has been down. But YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY PASS RUSHERS!!!!! Defense is now reliant on one thing-pass rushers. We have a few now. Trust me on this. We do not want to come up short in this department. I know Mario will be expensive. I know Brooks and Connor have been great. But to go without pass rushers will kill any defense. Save the money somewhere else. Not at pass rusher. This is a primo position, and there are not a ton of good pass rusher in the league. We have some good pass rushers. But we don't have too many! We can always use more pass rushers.

And for anyone that is worried about Yates last start-----you had to know this was gonna happen. He was a late round QB. He needs some time. This was bound to happen. Better now than in the playoffs.

I am excited!!!!!!!

[America]

That was a devastating loss.

[jjmt2500]

I have been gone for a while, but I have to get on some of these comments. Please forgive my rant.

Mario can not be let go...

I know the defense has not suffered while he has been down. But YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY PASS RUSHERS!!!!! Defense is now reliant on one thing-pass rushers. We have a few now. Trust me on this. We do not want to come up short in this department. I know Mario will be expensive. I know Brooks and Connor have been great. But to go without pass rushers will kill any defense. Save the money somewhere else. Not at pass rusher. This is a primo position, and there are not a ton of good pass rusher in the league. We have some good pass rushers. But we don't have too many! We can always use more pass rushers.

And for anyone that is worried about Yates last start-----you had to know this was gonna happen. He was a late round QB. He needs some time. This was bound to happen. Better now than in the playoffs.

I am excited!!!!!!!

Mario is going to want to be one of the highest paid defenders in the NFL. We HAVE to resign Foster. IMO Foster is a bigger priority.

John McClain called into the Mike Melzter show a week ago and said that the Texans will francise Mario and then let his agent work out a trade with another team, best idea...

[jjmt2500]

Barwin and Cushing both left off the probowl roster... That is bull ****!!!

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Well, I was excited. Now I am nervous. Maybe the football gods hate the Texans. We have gone through 3 QB's??? Thats not fair, damn it!

On a side note, I was glad to see Harris get beat for a touchdown instead of Jackson. I am done with Jackson. I would rather see someone making less money go suck it up.

I might get crucified for saying this here, but I don't have a lot of faith that this team can do anything in the playoffs with the QB's we have. It is no one's fault, and I think the season was a successful one. But these QB's don't bring much to the table.

[cunningham06]

Well, I was excited. Now I am nervous. Maybe the football gods hate the Texans. We have gone through 3 QB's??? Thats not fair, damn it!

On a side note, I was glad to see Harris get beat for a touchdown instead of Jackson. I am done with Jackson. I would rather see someone making less money go suck it up.

I might get crucified for saying this here, but I don't have a lot of faith that this team can do anything in the playoffs with the QB's we have. It is no one's fault, and I think the season was a successful one. But these QB's don't bring much to the table.

I wouldn't be too worried based on todays game, we did after all sit several players and put in a lot of backups near the end.

I think we've got a good shot in our first game. We're at home, and the news from the texans camp is saying Yates is likely to start against Cincy. We'll be going up against a rookie in his first playoff game in a tough environment, so anything is possible.

That being said we're gonna have a tough time in the next round. Our luck this year has been horrible, I honestly think we could contend with anyone if we still had Schaub.

[jjmt2500]

We almost beat a team playing for a spot in the playoffs with all back ups and our 4th QB of the year. If that game would of gone to OT i think we win that game. I do agree with going for 2 and getting off the field.

As far as the playoffs go.. there is not a team in the AFC that scares me. I think we have a very good chance to go deep and who knows, we have the defense to get us to the superbowl...

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I wish I had the same confidence. I really do. But I don't.

I do believe that with Schaub we would be a contender. But he is gone.

I think the opposing defenses will stack the line to stop the run. Then we will see a late round rookie quarter back starting in the playoffs. Which is exactly what Yates is.

I hope I am wrong.

[America]

Where is Datchapin?

[noondog]

Congrats on your first playoff victory!

[comahan]

Yay Texans!

:D :D :D :D :D

Now onto Baltimore. If good Flacco shows up, they win. If bad Flacco shows up, its a tossup.

[jayceheathman]

Heck yes. :) I considered going to the game but ticket prices were outrageous. There is no recession in Houston.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Is there a chance? Oh God I hope so. How great to have a second round playoff game to watch...And I guess I was wrong. Shows what I know.

[RCAChainGang]

I really want the Texans to continue ruining my bracket!!!
Got Texans! :D AFC South POWER!!!

[cunningham06]

Texans-Broncos AFC Championship. You heard it here first.

[jjmt2500]

Texans-Broncos AFC Championship. You heard it here first.

I agree 100% with that...

Oh and Tampa **** OFF!! Stay away from Wade!!!

[datchapin]

Mario is going to want to be one of the highest paid defenders in the NFL. We HAVE to resign Foster. IMO Foster is a bigger priority.

John McClain called into the Mike Melzter show a week ago and said that the Texans will francise Mario and then let his agent work out a trade with another team, best idea...

Coming off injury the Texans have the advantage. I agree with Walker, you don't let Mario go. You franchise him you do it to sign an extension. Reed and Barwin played well, but they aren't Mario. Remember Reed getting trucked by Brown against the Colts. Remember a while back how Mario manhandled Jamal Lewis. Earlier this season Mario brought Big Ben down with one arm. Those are things you can't really replace. The man has been a force on a mediocre defense in the past. This season with a non-existent off-season we saw him starting to come on. If the man wants to get paid like one of the best defenders then he deserves it. Also his agent seems more reasonable than others, so I'm sure they can come to an agreement. My opinion on Mclame hasn't changed, screw him.

Foster is a high priority, but this is why Smith is getting paid. He has to find a way to keep the important pieces in place.

[datchapin]

Texans-Broncos AFC Championship. You heard it here first.

I hope not, I really can't stand all the hype Tebow gets as it is.

[datchapin]

The Ravens are gonna be a tough matchup. The defenses are both stout, ranking 2nd and 3rd overall. The way Atkins pushed Myers around in the beginning of the Cinci game wasn't pretty. Kubiak needs to find a way to effectively scheme against Ngata. Ed Reed hasn't been playing lights out like we're accustomed to seeing him play, but getting yards through the air is still gonna be tough. I dig this game, its gonna be good. (May continue write up later.)

We already played once and while the final score didn't reflect it, I think it showed we can play with them. The fact that its playoff time and we have momentum should make it intense. I can't say we're gonna win, but its been an awesome year so far and I think we have a very realistic shot of getting to the superbowl!

I never thought I would say that, but it just goes to show you. I haven't been on the forums much, but its definetely a good time to be a Texan fan!

I gotta bounce, but just wanna say. GO TEXANS!!!

[ATLDirtyBirds]

You guys think there's any chance Mario hits FA?

[Nikolas]

Nah, I think if worst came to worst, they'd franchise tag him. But they have a history of keeping their top players; the only exception would be Dunta Robinson, but I suspect that had more to do with his unreasonable demands and his drop off in performance.

[jjmt2500]

You guys think there's any chance Mario hits FA?

He will not be a FA... According to the Texans beat writer, Mario will be franchised, if they cant get a deal done they will give Mario's agent premission to seek a trade. Mario wants to be one of the highest paid defenders in the league. Texans would have to restructure lots of contracts to resign him and Foster. I dont expect Mario on the team next season.

[jjmt2500]

So happy that Wade wont be interviewing with Tampa..

[datchapin]

Go Texans!!!!

[America]

Jacoby needs to go.

[TACKLE]

Nice game guys. I felt you guys actually won the battle in the trenches today. If you guys can get Mario locked up and keep Schaub healthy, I expect you to be very dangerous moving forward. A ton of young talent on that roster.

[Sloopy]

I'll just second Tack here. Good game guys. It was a lot to ask of Yates and you almost pulled it off.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I am so mad. Not because Balt beat us, but because we lost to ourselves. Here are my notes.

Jacoby Jones played horrible. Killed our momentum with the fumble, not to mention he spotted them seven points. And he cost us field position in a game where it was crucial. He is in my opinion the biggest reason we lost.

Yates played real well, considering. He had to go play an awesome defense in a stadium that was loud as hell. He was having trouble hearing, and that would be really tough. I don't think the stat sheet tells the story. It makes him look like the reason we lost, but he really wasn't. He did okay. He didn't play good enough to win, but did really well all things being equal.

Defense played awesome.

Arian played awesome.

Too many dropped passes. This killed us. I don't think a rookie qb has any chance in a playoff game if his receivers are gonna drop passes. Those guys needed to help out, and they really didn't.

In the end, we just made too many mistakes. And if you take into account we had four tournovers and they had none, we really beat their butts.

I am just sick. I didn't think we had a chance. But once we were were in position to win and we didn't, it made it that much worse for me.

[jayceheathman]

I am so mad. Not because Balt beat us, but because we lost to ourselves. Here are my notes.

Jacoby Jones played horrible. Killed our momentum with the fumble, not to mention he spotted them seven points. And he cost us field position in a game where it was crucial. He is in my opinion the biggest reason we lost.

Yates played real well, considering. He had to go play an awesome defense in a stadium that was loud as hell. He was having trouble hearing, and that would be really tough. I don't think the stat sheet tells the story. It makes him look like the reason we lost, but he really wasn't. He did okay. He didn't play good enough to win, but did really well all things being equal.

Defense played awesome.

Arian played awesome.

Too many dropped passes. This killed us. I don't think a rookie qb has any chance in a playoff game if his receivers are gonna drop passes. Those guys needed to help out, and they really didn't.

In the end, we just made too many mistakes. And if you take into account we had four tournovers and they had none, we really beat their butts.

I am just sick. I didn't think we had a chance. But once we were were in position to win and we didn't, it made it that much worse for me.

I thought Yates played awful. He should have at least 7 INT's on the stat sheet if Lewis, Reed, and Webb would have caught balls thrown right in their hands. His mindset pre-snap was "okay, even if AJ is triple teamed I am still going to throw it his way." Oh, and why wasn't Andre anywhere near that hail marry at the end? Did anyone else see the ball hit Walters on the shoulder pads as well? If he would have turned around he could have caught it.

[jjmt2500]

I thought Yates played awful. He should have at least 7 INT's on the stat sheet if Lewis, Reed, and Webb would have caught balls thrown right in their hands. His mindset pre-snap was "okay, even if AJ is triple teamed I am still going to throw it his way." Oh, and why wasn't Andre anywhere near that hail marry at the end? Did anyone else see the ball hit Walters on the shoulder pads as well? If he would have turned around he could have caught it.

I thought it hit his arm... But not sure why Yates went for the hail marry there all we needed was 2 yards there, and then spike the ball.

I was very against us resigning Jacoby in the off season. I have been trying to think of a time this year that he has really helped this team out and i cant come up with anything. Its time for him and Walter to go. We need a true number 2 WR.

JJ Watt and Foster were AMAZING!!! It really sucks that Watt wont get the DROY cause he really deserves it. Foster is the best RB in the league and he proved it yesterday. He has to be resigned!!!

[jayceheathman]

Anyone think we should go after Manning since it seems like a sure bet that the Colts are going to let him go.

[Babylon]

Anyone think we should go after Manning since it seems like a sure bet that the Colts are going to let him go.

You're relegating Schaub to a backup for the next couple of years if you do. If it translates to a Super Bowl then go for it.

[jjmt2500]

Anyone think we should go after Manning since it seems like a sure bet that the Colts are going to let him go.

If we had a healthy Schaub we would be playing this weekend... No way we give up Schaub for Manning.

[jjmt2500]

IMO off season priorities.

1. Lock up Foster. I know he is a restricted FA but if someone signs him to an offer sheet with a deal that is front loaded then we would be screwed because of our cap situation.

2. Resign Chris Myers and Mike Brisiel. The O line was amazing this year, cant let either of these guys walk. When Brisiel was out, the line was not as good.

3. Get a "true" number 2 WR. No cap money so probably looking at the draft on this one.

I know that i didnt put Mario on there. Mario has never had a healty season, so why should we believe he will now. Resigning Mario limits anything else we can do this offseason. I am ok with letting him walk.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I agree with your reasoning on Mario. He is expensive. But at the same time I hate to lose a pass rusher. Seems like the good teams keep them around. So if we can keep him, I think we should.

A second wide out is a must. When AJ is not in there, all Schaub does is throw to the TE. We lose down field ability. I think we have to get a WO. And this is a good year for that.

I agree with the line. They were good.

If Mario will give a home town discount, I think he needs to be signed.

[jjmt2500]

Yeah I agree I would love to see Mario stay, I just dont think its going to happen. And would hate to lose out on Myers or Brisiel because there is a big drop off behind them in the depth chart.

If we do lose Mario to another team I would hate to face him.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I watched the combine today and made some notes. I was surprised about several things. These notes are only on wideouts, because all things being equal, that is what I want the Texicans to draft.

Guys that really impressed me. I will give some quick stats for those that didn't watch.

Obviously Stephen Hill. 6'4 tall 215 lbs. 4.36 forty yard dash. 9 3/8 hands 14 reps. This guy surprised everyone with his forty time. I had not considered him at all because he only caught 28 balls. After seeing him run such a fast time, I went back and noticed he averaged over 29 yards per catch. I plan on watching as much tape on him as I can find. And his drills were really good.

Michael Floyd. 6'3 tall 224 lbs. 4.47 forty yard dash. 9 3/8 hands. 16 reps. I loved Floyd before the combine, but this solidified him for me. His measurables were great, but what stood out to me was his drills. The guy caught everything, and I loved his route running. He totally has me sold. I know he has off the field issues, but I am not totally sure what they are yet. I will have to look into them as best I can, but as far as football ability, I am completely sold. This guy really plucks the ball out of the air.

Devon Wylie. 5'9 185 lbs. 4.37 forty yard dash. 9.5 hands. 17 reps.
I had no knowledge of this guy, but he absolutely jumped out at me. He looked like he tried really hard in drills, and I liked everything about him. I can totally see him turning into a Wes Welker type guy. You could tell he had really large hands for his size, compared to the other receivers. This is a guy I would really like to see them take. And again, this guy also seemed to pluck the ball out of the air and make catches away from his body. I was surprised Scott Wright didn't mention him on his blog about the WR's.


Now for two guys that I am out on.

Blackmon. I know he probably wont be there anyway, but I was shocked at his drills. His route running didn't look crisp to me at all. He didn't seem to be any better than anyone else in drills. I know he is injured, but he didn't impress me at all.

One guy that I have been looking at for a while was Streeter our of Miami. The guy has all the measurables you want. But his drills totally turned me off. He seems to not be as interested as most of the guys he is going up against. I think he has a lot of quit in him. As much as I was looking forward to watching his combine, I was totally disappointed.

There you go. Feel free to blow me up.

[America]

I would be ecstatic if we landed Floyd.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

As I tried to find negatives about Floyd, the only thing I have seen so far is three arrests for Alcohol charges. Do any of you guys know if there is other stuff?

While that is not a good thing, it is certainly not enough to turn me off of him. Floyd looked good. Any of you that didn't watch his combine but hope the Texans draft a wide out, I would recommend you go watch it for yourself.

Also, I found some videos on the net on Wylie. I really like him now, because he showed as much vigor at the combine as he did on his highlight tapes. Looks like he was a gunner on punt coverage and a wedge buster on kickoffs, too. If you guys will take a look at him and tell me what you think, I would appreciate it. I bet it will be hard for you to not like him if you give him a look.

[America]

Seriously though, there aren't many college students who don't drink underage. These are football players. I think this is the worst of the kind of character concerns you can see. I've actually talked to Michael Floyd before and he's a very cool, genuine guy. He likes to have a good time like the rest of us.

If we don't land him though, I'd be gunning for Dontario Poe, the NT out of Memphis. He's blowing up the combine right now.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I didn't know if that was all Floyd had on him. I don't care about the alcohol stuff either, but I was just saying that it wasn't ideal to have them on your record. I would like to know if there are, in fact, other bad things on him. I have read several times about his checkered past. That is why I was asking, because it doesn't seem like it is that checkered to me.

He probably won't last until the Texans draft anyway.

As far as Poe goes, he is blowing it up. I just don't think DL is as big a need as WO.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Where is datchapin? We need more people on here. Its draft time for goodness sake.

[America]

Datchapin is a legend. He only voices his thoughts at the most important times. He broke up with his girlfriend because she wasn't a Texans fan for Christ's sake.

[America]

And I agree. WR is much more pressing of a need than DL. Earl Mitchell and Shaun Cody played well last year. Kevin Walter & Jacoby Jones did not. Jacoby should be cut anyways. That deal was crap.

[America]

Word is Houston would be the heavy favorite to land Peyton if we wanted him. I love Schaub but he's only played 2 full seasons for us, missing 17 games in 5 years. He's a free agent after the 2012 season and will want a big contract. I would love to trade him to Cleveland or Seattle for a 2nd, maybe a conditional third and bring Peyton on board.

[jjmt2500]

Word is Houston would be the heavy favorite to land Peyton if we wanted him. I love Schaub but he's only played 2 full seasons for us, missing 17 games in 5 years. He's a free agent after the 2012 season and will want a big contract. I would love to trade him to Cleveland or Seattle for a 2nd, maybe a conditional third and bring Peyton on board.

You dont think we could get a 1 for Schaub?? Im sure a team live Cleveland would give a 1 and more...

Kubs is very loyal to his QBs.. I dont see him letting Schaub go. Getting a 1 for Schaub and landing Peyton sounds amazing, and i dont want to sound like Debbie Downer, but I just dont think there is anyway this happens.

I have been on a cruise for the last week with no contact with the outside world. So today when I saw we locked Foster up I was super excited. Now lets get Myers, Mike B, and Joel D new contracts.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I have no interest for Peyton at all. For these reasons.

1) Too old
2) Tons of questions concerning injury
3) I don't believe the Colts would have let him walk if they really thought they would be letting the same old Peyton play for someone else.

As a side note, he probably is the greatest quarterback ever. But his record in pressure situations (playoffs) is not good. He was on one of the few favorites to win the superbowl for about ten years, but only won one.

And lastly, if we ship Schaub off we will get to play the quarterback game in 3 years. And that is best case scenario. No thanks. I will take Schaub.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I know this probably isn't the place for it, but I am going to put a few numbers on Manning up.

11 years in the playoffs. 7 times they did not advance. Only advance 4 times.

19 career playoff games. 10 times his team didn't score at least 20 points.

10 playoff losses. 6 were by less than a touch down.

Only 1 game winning drive in the playoffs.

Once again, I do think he is probably the greatest QB of all time. His career has been amazing. But in the big ones, he has not been at his best.

And one last note. Tom Brady.

9 years in the playoffs. Only one time did his team NOT advance.

6 game winning drives.

I will take my chances with a young team and Schaub.

Just food for thought.

[jjmt2500]

Eric Winston got cut today... It saves 4.5 mil on the cap. If this move helps us keep Myers and Mike B than i am ok with it. I think Butler could step in and do a good job.

John McClain says the Texans have no interest in Peyton, and i believe it.

[jjmt2500]

And there goes Leinart... Not sure why Jacoby hasnt happened yet.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

No joke. Jacoby should have been cut after blowing the playoff game.

I am relieved to hear Peyton is not coming. I really don't understand why the Texicans were considered a destination. There is nothing wrong with Schaub.

Does anyone have a good idea how the cap situation is? I have to say I don't understand how the cap works at all. Everytime I think I have it figured out I realize I don't understand how it works at all. Someone needs to spell it out for me.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I sure am excited about Free Agency. I just noticed Aaron Ross is available. I wouldn't mind picking him up if he is cheap.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

And Ted Ginn as a replacement for Jacoby would be nice.

But I guess there will be no movement except maybe signing some of your guys back.

[jjmt2500]

I dont fully understand the cap either. I have heard that we have freed up 13 mil, but then i also heard that we are still a mil above the cap, so no clue.

Mario will be gone after tonight. He is meeting the Bills tonight and they are going to make him the highest paid defender in the league.

Myers is talking to the Titans and us. I believe he is talking to the Titans to get the best deal possible with us. We dont want to lose him to Tenn.

Vickers getting cut doesnt bother me at all. In our system the FB needs to be able to catch a ball. I think Casey did a great job blocking before the injury.

[jjmt2500]

Just an idea to see what y'all think. I think most of us agree that we should use our 1st pick on a WR. Mike Wallace got a 1st round tender as a RFA. Why not use our 1st pick and try to work a deal that the Steelers wont match. Im sure it would have to be back loaded, and im not sure what we could do with the cap situation. But the idea of Dre and Wallace is pretty exciting.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Uh, yea. I like this idea very much. Much less bust potential.

As much as I like Floyd, I have been wrong many times in the draft. He could bust out. We know Wallace won't.

Good idea.

[jjmt2500]

We lost Brisiel to the Raiders, but we resigned Myers!!!

McClain says that Jacoby wont be cut... i just dont get it...

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

This is insane. I have not spoken to anyone that thinks Jacoby should return.

[jjmt2500]

Jacoby has to have something really bad on Kubs. That has to be the only reason that Kubs keeps him.

I dont know about y'all but im very happy that Manning is out of the South.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Heck yea....we trade Manning for Luck. Not a bad deal


Texans are in good shape. We need a solid draft. Thats it.

[America]

I wouldn't oppose taking a RT to replace Winston. But I'd prefer a wideout like Kendall Wright.

[America]

That's cool Rick Smith. Trade Demeco. WTF.

[jjmt2500]

That's cool Rick Smith. Trade Demeco. WTF.

For a 4th rounder??? Really??

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I am guessing this was a salary cap move. It had to be, right? Otherwise it makes no sense. He has been a great player since he has been here.

The only positive is that in a 3-4 defense, the inside linebackers are not as important as some of the other positions. Not to say they are not important. But if you are going to have a pro bowler, it is probably better to have one at outside linebacker.

This does suck. Now we have lost two of the front seven that made this defense special.

Not happy. But I feel confident this is for salary cap purposes only.

[jjmt2500]

I get that he had a down year and that he probably doesnt fit what we are doing now.. But you dont go trade your defensive captain for a 4th round pick...

It does free up a lot of cap space, what ever they are planning they need to go ahead and do it cause right now the Titans are moving forward and we are going backwards..

[America]

I'm glad the players are upset with the trade as I am. Things were going too well in H town I guess.

[jjmt2500]

I thought this was funny..

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h244/jjmt2500/IMG_2993.png

[villagewarrior]

I've got Stephen Hill to the Texans in my mock. I think he could develop into a nice compliment to Andre Johnson and not have the pressure to be a perfect receiver right off. Any thoughts on what else could be done? Other notable names available are Mark Barron, Peter Konz, and Kendall Wright.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I think Stephen Hill is an Ok choice. His risk/reward is pretty good. But he does have fairly high bust potential, so we need to keep that in mind. I am just as easily enamored with 40's at the combine. But they really don't tell much by themselves.

For some reason, I would rather not take him in the first. But I understand why he would be taken, and I wouldn't be too upset about it. I just get worried about the lack of stats. It' isn't his fault, I realize that. But all things being equal, I would much rather have a lot more catches.

[jayceheathman]

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[RaiderNation]

Who would you rather have: Kendall Wright, Jonathan Martin or Nick Perry.

[jjmt2500]

Who would you rather have: Kendall Wright, Jonathan Martin or Nick Perry.

I would rather have Kendall Wright. But knowing the way the Texans like to draft, Im sure the other 2 would be more of a possibility.

[jayceheathman]

With DeMeco out does this make room for a possible Dont'a Hightower selection? In a lot of ways, he seems a lot similar to DeMeco.

[RaiderNation]

With DeMeco out does this make room for a possible Dont'a Hightower selection? In a lot of ways, he seems a lot similar to DeMeco.

He isn't getting by Pittsburgh at 24, and I think you guys can find a serviceable LB maybe in the 3/4. What's your opinion on Houston's biggest need? WR, RT or OLB?

[jayceheathman]

He isn't getting by Pittsburgh at 24, and I think you guys can find a serviceable LB maybe in the 3/4. What's your opinion on Houston's biggest need? WR, RT or OLB?

WR is the bigger need but value at our pick would be geared towards LB like Dont'a Hightower or Nick Perry and even OT with Jonathan Martin and Mike Adams. I am just not that big of a Reuben Randle fan. Bob McNair won't take a chance on a guy like Michael Floyd even if he was available. The punch thrown by Alshon Jeffery in the bowl game may have taken him off the list for the Texans as well. That leaves Kendall Wright left. I don't know too much about him since I always focussed on RGIII when I watched Baylor. If it were me, I would rather take Jonathan Martin/Dont'a Hightower and then Sanu in the 2nd round.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

WR is the biggest need, but I would agree that it most likely is not the best value.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Anyone excited about Brady James becoming a Texican?

[jjmt2500]

Anyone excited about Brady James becoming a Texican?

Yes... I know he had a down year, but under Wade he lead the team in tackles for 3 or so years in a row. He is a good character guy who does a lot of charity work.

He could be more productive than Ryans was last year and for a lot less money.

Im excited to see who will win the starting job between him and Sharpton.

[Shupp]

I think Stephen Hill is an Ok choice. His risk/reward is pretty good. But he does have fairly high bust potential, so we need to keep that in mind. I am just as easily enamored with 40's at the combine. But they really don't tell much by themselves.

For some reason, I would rather not take him in the first. But I understand why he would be taken, and I wouldn't be too upset about it. I just get worried about the lack of stats. It' isn't his fault, I realize that. But all things being equal, I would much rather have a lot more catches.

I'm really hoping you guys leave Hill for my niners @ 30. A lot of people have him going to either Cleveland or your Texans though.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I think James is an okay player for the right price, but I haven't seen what he is going to make yet.

If he was cheap, he is okay. But I do not think he is an upgrade over Demeco Ryans, as far as on the field. But he is okay.

What I am worried about is that I have heard Ryans is a great locker room guy. I have never been in the locker room, but I don't want to change whatever they were doing last year. They were right there, man...

[jayceheathman]

Houston vs Detroit on Thanksgiving Day and 2 Monday Night games. :)

[jayceheathman]

WR is the biggest need, but I would agree that it most likely is not the best value.

I am not a big fan of almost any of the WR's this year. Tommy Streeter wouldn't be a bad choice in the mid rounds if Andre can teach him how to catch a ball on a consistant basis. 6'4 220 and ran an unofficial 4.34 at the combine.

[jjmt2500]

Houston vs Detroit on Thanksgiving Day and 2 Monday Night games. :)

Prime time games scare me cause we are usually really awful on the national stage.

[jayceheathman]

Prime time games scare me cause we are usually really awful on the national stage.

I remember when we played Denver on prime time the other year and I was out of town so I went to watch it at a Hooters. Everyone there other than me was wearing Denver stuff.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I am not a big fan of almost any of the WR's this year. Tommy Streeter wouldn't be a bad choice in the mid rounds if Andre can teach him how to catch a ball on a consistant basis. 6'4 220 and ran an unofficial 4.34 at the combine.

Just a note on Tommy Streeter. I fell in love with his triangle numbers several months ago. I have done as much research on him as I have on anyone in this draft. And believe me, I wanted to like him. He has some great highlights, seems down to earth in the interviews and video I could find, and generally seems like a nice guy. But here is the problem.

I don't think he has a stomach for football. He doesn't go after the ball at the highest point. His run blocking is not good. If you watched him at the combine, he did not seem to try as hard as some of the other guys.

He just doesn't "attack" the ball in the air.

Several years ago, I had the same issues with a guy I wanted to fall in love with named Craponso Thorp (I may be misspelling the name as I am going on memory, but I am not making him up). Both have the talent. But at the pro level you have to really want it, no matter how much talent you have. And he doesn't want it at all, IMO.

Later in the draft I MIGHT take a flier, but I am telling you now...stay away from Streeter. There is a lot of quit in that guy...to quote a certain comedian.

[jjmt2500]

There is a rumor linking us to TE Coby Fleener. At first i didnt like this but after thinking about it its the perfect pick for us. In our system a 2nd TE is a lot more important than a number 2 WR. OD and Fleener could be better than the duo in NE...

Fleener is my pick.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Well, he is not mine because I think the texans are set at te.

However, I do think he would be an upgrade. And I really do believe that. I wouldn't hate that pick, because I think Michael Floyd is severely underrated. Anything we need to do to get him, I am on board with. But Fleener would be an upgrade, and so I can't knock that pick too bad.

[jjmt2500]

We would have to give up way to much to get low enough to get Floyd and with needing to fill depth at a few spots I dont see us trading up and losing picks. But I agree, i think if he keeps his head on straight he will be a star.

Best part about this draft is that we don't have any glaring needs so we can take the best player available. We are not looking for someone to jump in and start.

[jayceheathman]

I like the Mercilus pick although I would have gone with Zeitler or Glenn. I am just glad we didn't go WR or Fleener.

[jayceheathman]

Just a note on Tommy Streeter. I fell in love with his triangle numbers several months ago. I have done as much research on him as I have on anyone in this draft. And believe me, I wanted to like him. He has some great highlights, seems down to earth in the interviews and video I could find, and generally seems like a nice guy. But here is the problem.

I don't think he has a stomach for football. He doesn't go after the ball at the highest point. His run blocking is not good. If you watched him at the combine, he did not seem to try as hard as some of the other guys.

He just doesn't "attack" the ball in the air.

Several years ago, I had the same issues with a guy I wanted to fall in love with named Craponso Thorp (I may be misspelling the name as I am going on memory, but I am not making him up). Both have the talent. But at the pro level you have to really want it, no matter how much talent you have. And he doesn't want it at all, IMO.

Later in the draft I MIGHT take a flier, but I am telling you now...stay away from Streeter. There is a lot of quit in that guy...to quote a certain comedian.

I agree and him having that attitude is why he isn't like a high second round pick since he has size and speed to be a great WR. Putting him around Andre Johnson could get him to change that attitude though.

[jayceheathman]

It's tough to grade this draft. It has its goods and its really bads. I like the Mercilus pick but still feel like we should have gone OL. I have no doubt he will be a big producer on the defense though. I just think Brooks Reed and Conor Barwin had the position in control and OL would have filled a bigger need. We even could have traded up a few spots to get DeCastro. Reiff, Glenn, and Zietler were still around.

DeVier Posey-My gosh what a reach. Many WR's that are better were still available. We finally take a risk on a guy that doesn't have perfect character and this is who we choose?

Brandon Brooks-Nice pick. I just hope he can stay healthy. The guy seems to constantly be injured.

Ben Jones-Not that big of a fan. The guy practically ran a 6 second 40 according to Scott. We just signed Myers as well.

Keyshawn Martin-Another pretty big reach with better WR's there.

Jared Crick-My favorite pick of the whole draft! I hope there isn't some concerns with his injury because I noticed Scott had him in the 2nd in the second to last mock and then completely out of all three rounds in the latest one he did on Thursday. Nice risk in the late 4th though.

Randy Bullock-Another reach just because Rackers left and he is the hometown kid that grew up in the Klein area of Houston. Blair Walsh was still around as well. I would even bet than we could have picked him in UDFA as well. I would have picked Illoka instead.

Nick Mondek-I don't think I watched one Purdue game this year. Can't really say much about him.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Good gosh, I agree with you.

I loved the Crick pick. As a Cowboys fan as well, I really wanted them to take him because I thought that was exactly what they needed. I was pleasantly surprised to see Houston take him, and I think he was a great pick.

I really do love the Mercilus pick. He was one of the few guys that stood out to me this year, as far as the defensive front seven goes. I think he was much better than most had him in mocks. Not really a good pick, need wise. But a good player at a good point in the draft. And I do believe that a good pass rush can mask a bad secondary, to some extent. But a good secondary can not mask a bad pass rush. Neither of these picks are bad at all.

[Loftin]

My impression is positive overall of our draft. My only problem is who we took at WR.

I like the Mercilus pick. Barwin and Reed are great, but Barwin's health has been an issue and we have NO depth there. Having a good pass rush is critical so I have no problem with us taking Mercilus if they thought he was BPA.

Both of the WRs we took were reaches according to projections, but we need help there and if either one of them pans out, then we were successful. However, I am doubtful and think we wasted those picks.

Brooks sounds like a solid pick and good fit for us. He might compete for Brisiel's former starting spot. I also like Jones, because he was one of the better C prospects in this draft, and even though we just re-signed Myers, we had no back-up who was any good at that spot. I'm ok with using a mid-round pick for a decent backup at a spot that needed depth.

The Mondek pick is odd. I'd never heard of him or seen him on any draft sites. I'd be surprised if he makes the roster.

Crick is a great pick. Watt and Smith are great starters, but like OLB, we didn't have any depth to speak of at DE. Crick gives us depth there and could possibly be Smith's replacement in a couple of years. Assuming he's 100% after the pectoral injury, this pick could turn out to be a real steal.

5th round might be a little early for a kicker, but I really like the Bullock pick. I'm a die-hard Aggie and I've seen Bullock play in person quite a bit. He has range, he is accurate, and he doesn't seem to get rattled. I think there's a high probability that we have a quality kicker for a long time now.

[Bosanac01]

Ben Jones-Not that big of a fan. The guy practically ran a 6 second 40 according to Scott. We just signed Myers as well.
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Judging an offensive linemen based on his 40 time is one the the dumbest things you could do. With Ben Jones, all you have to do is just plug the tape in, you won't find another guy as ferocious as him. He is the definition of a mean streak. He's just a mean old country boy. He was a team captain and everyone on the roster was afraid of him, he put everyone in their place and was well respected.

[Spaceboy1]

Picking up Keenum as an UDFA may turn out to be a big move as well... Kubiak loves him.

[jayceheathman]

Picking up Keenum as an UDFA may turn out to be a big move as well... Kubiak loves him.

If anything it will be a money maker. I am sure all University of Houston fans will be trying to buy Keenum jerseys. They would pay off his salary just off of jersey sales. Plus, I like him more than Yates.

I love the Dwight Jones pick up. I will bet you he turns out better than Posey.

[SolidGold]

Texans cut Jacoby Jones

[Bobo]

So Texans fans, what are your thoughts on Jacoby Jones? I always liked him, but only saw him when he played against TN. I'm sure he's getting unfair hate for his playoff muffed kick, but that's hardly enough to really measure a guy by unless he has lots of problems there (has he?).

[America]

So Texans fans, what are your thoughts on Jacoby Jones? I always liked him, but only saw him when he played against TN. I'm sure he's getting unfair hate for his playoff muffed kick, but that's hardly enough to really measure a guy by unless he has lots of problems there (has he?).

He's never been able to put it all together. He's got solid speed and he's a big wideout but he doesn't locate the ball well and has trouble separating. Extremely frustrating player.

[Bobo]

He's never been able to put it all together. He's got solid speed and he's a big wideout but he doesn't locate the ball well and has trouble separating. Extremely frustrating player.

Ok thanks. Not sure if the Titans would even look at him, just wondered if he could maybe be an upgrade over Mark Mariani at WR. Not that we've seen much of Mariani at WR to know what we've got, but it may be good competition.

[Abaddon]

Leinart is a Raider now. Has he grown up any? He didn't earn a second chance in Houston, so I'm doubtful he'll linger in Oakland for long.

Would be nice to have a decent backup for a change, though.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

I loved the draft, love cutting Jacoby Jones and the Keenum signing.

Would have liked to see some WR upgrades, but it could have been so worse. This is a good off season as far as I am concerned

[America]

I'm excited to see what Keyshawn Martin can do in the return game. I hear he won't get much PT at receiver, but he seems like a good screen guy that could work well in our system.