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Ravens1991
05-08-2007, 07:38 PM
out of both of these 1st round guards who do you have as the better prospect?

zCaddyz
05-08-2007, 07:40 PM
my boy joseph for 2 resons 1 he was blockin 4 peterson and his side was peterson fav and 2 he plays for the bucs

Chucky
05-08-2007, 07:40 PM
Id pick Davin Joseph, but im also kind of a homer

thule
05-08-2007, 07:41 PM
Grubbs is the better prospect. Joseph had the tweener label on him which hurt a bit.

SeanTaylorRIP
05-08-2007, 08:21 PM
As a pure guard Grubbs, Grubbs was the best guard prospect in this years draft, should have a long a multiple pro bowl career.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
05-08-2007, 08:39 PM
As a pure guard Grubbs, Grubbs was the best guard prospect in this years draft, should have a long a multiple pro bowl career.

Yea I agree, but for your Sean Taylor sig, check this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzSXR3XftfY at 54 seconds. =)

simms2clayton
05-08-2007, 09:37 PM
Ben Grubbs is newer hence is why he is winning.

Joseph is a much better player coming out than Ben Grubbs.

simms2clayton
05-08-2007, 09:37 PM
Grubbs is the better prospect. Joseph had the tweener label on him which hurt a bit.

B.S.

Joseph was never ever a tweener he just had to play a little tackle at OU to help his team out.

Staubach12
05-08-2007, 09:39 PM
Grubbs was, all in all, the superior prospect. He's a better pure Guard.

draftguru151
05-08-2007, 09:41 PM
Yea I agree, but for your Sean Taylor sig, check this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzSXR3XftfY at 54 seconds. =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJgbt9ebj28

I think there are 12 different plays there from FSU, and one is him laying out Jones, another one he jukes him. ; )

Shiver
05-08-2007, 09:58 PM
Davin Joseph, easy for me.

princefielder28
05-08-2007, 10:01 PM
Joseph has more versatility as a prospect but Grubbs is more solid at a specific position where Joseph isn't

Woody56
05-08-2007, 10:09 PM
I prefer Joseph over Grubbs. The reason being is Joseph really excels in the run blocking, where Grubbs is just okay in that department. But I would still take either one on the Jets and feel both are going to be very good pro's.

-black
05-08-2007, 10:15 PM
as a Buc fan I cant really say. From just pure scouting reports, Grubbs is a better prospect. But after watching Joseph develope and seeing what he has already done, I would not trade him (although I think its very possible for Grubbs to become better)

if this isnt flipflopping I dont kno wat is lol

Yung Flippa
05-08-2007, 10:17 PM
I'll take Ben Grubbs because he is a PURE guard.
& besides he's playing for my team

eliteeagle
05-08-2007, 10:49 PM
id say they are even...but grubbs is a mauler and im a sucker for a mauling guard

thule
05-09-2007, 12:32 AM
B.S.

Joseph was never ever a tweener he just had to play a little tackle at OU to help his team out.

Coming into the NFL draft he didn't have the footwork to play on the outside...and didn't have the leg base to play on the inside without hitting the weights. I'd call that a tweener...maybe your definition is different than mine.

SuperKevin
05-09-2007, 12:58 AM
Can I choose Shawn Andrews over both of these guys?

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-09-2007, 01:17 AM
Can I choose Shawn Andrews over both of these guys?
no.
Grubbs.

Iamcanadian
05-09-2007, 03:01 PM
Ben Grubbs is newer hence is why he is winning.

Joseph is a much better player coming out than Ben Grubbs.

I agree, Joseph has a much higher upside and was selected in a much better draft year.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
05-09-2007, 03:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJgbt9ebj28

I think there are 12 different plays there from FSU, and one is him laying out Jones, another one he jukes him. ; )

He juked Jones in one play, the other there were 2 guys on him and then Taylor gets on him.

ChefMike
05-09-2007, 03:17 PM
I prefer Joseph over Grubbs. The reason being is Joseph really excels in the run blocking, where Grubbs is just okay in that department. But I would still take either one on the Jets and feel both are going to be very good pro's.

How can you say Grubbs is just OK in run blocking ? At Auburn they have had more 1000yd rushers in the last couple of years and he has been a leader on that OL along with Marcus McNeil ? Grubbs can be a road grader or a great technician. As was said in a previous post..."Grubbs is the best pure guard prospect in the draft"

Acreboy
05-09-2007, 03:28 PM
Grubbs for me.

Caddy
05-09-2007, 04:31 PM
Even though I'm a Buccaneer's fan I still would give Joseph the edge at the moment. His versatility in both playing the pass and the run make him a great player to have on a developing offensive line like the Buc's.

Phrost
05-09-2007, 04:34 PM
Even though I'm a Buccaneer's fan I still would give Joseph the edge at the moment. His versatility in both playing the pass and the run make him a great player to have on a developing offensive line like the Buc's.

^^^^^He could be a mauler and lock someone down, I am hoping he can be a stalwart for another 10-12 years.

Caddy
05-09-2007, 04:41 PM
^^^^^He could be a mauler and lock someone down, I am hoping he can be a stalwart for another 10-12 years.

To say Gruden is putting pressure on him to be the leader of the offensive line is an understatement. Tampa have high hopes for Joseph and I expect him and Trueblood to lock down that right side for a good 8-10 years.

Bucs4242
05-09-2007, 05:05 PM
I haven't seen one eduacated post on Joseph from non-Bucs fans. Sounds like you guys are just guessing.

Joseph was as "pure" a guard as you can get. He played LT his senior year, because Oklahoma needed him at LT. Now if you were projecting him as a LT/RT I would agree he is not a "pure" Tackle.

He was considered a plus run and pass blocker coming out of college. He is a good athlete with good mobility and great mauler like strength. He had the biggest hands and longest arms in the draft, and had the perfect build for a guard to go along with top intangables and a great character. He started out slow his rookie year due to a minor injury limiting him in the first 1/4 of the season but ever since his first mini camps through the end of his first NFL season he was everything that the BUcs could hope for on an overall inexperienced and under talented BUcs OL

I can't compar ehim to Grubbs, because I don't know Grubbs well enough

dcarey20
05-09-2007, 07:22 PM
the grubbster

Bucs4242
05-10-2007, 01:02 PM
why am I not surprised ; )

StaticGator
05-13-2007, 03:20 PM
As a Bucs fan I can't say I saw one thing out of Joseph last year that differentiated him from Jahri Evans, Jason Spitz, or Daryn Colledge. Dan Buenning completely out-played him as a rookie on 2005 as a 4th rounder. I hope 2007 is his break out year.

Ravens1991
05-13-2007, 03:30 PM
why am I not surprised ; )

He was a big Grubbs fan before the Ravens took Ben.

Caddy
05-13-2007, 04:30 PM
As a Bucs fan I can't say I saw one thing out of Joseph last year that differentiated him from Jahri Evans, Jason Spitz, or Daryn Colledge. Dan Buenning completely out-played him as a rookie on 2005 as a 4th rounder. I hope 2007 is his break out year.

Davin Joseph > Dan Buenning.

Phrost
05-13-2007, 06:23 PM
Davin Joseph > Dan Buenning.

Dan Buenning=Center now

mikedoobie
05-13-2007, 11:44 PM
They both are great G prospects, Grubbs has more potential and Joseph is a better technician and probably carries more intangibles then that of Grubbs at this point in his career. Both are great athletes but Grubbs is more athletic overall. Davin Joseph may be one of the fastest linemen i have seen come out of his stance in a while which allows him to get great positioning and Grubbs can just maul defenders down throughout a game and is naturally stronger, and is one of the best at getting to the second level. They are both good and i would say it is a tie but as i am a raven fan i voted Grubbs, but Joseph was one of my favourite prospects last year

dcarey20
05-14-2007, 05:15 PM
He was a big Grubbs fan before the Ravens took Ben.

thank you....but you were definitely the ben bandwagon starter

Caddy
05-14-2007, 08:16 PM
Dan Buenning=Center now

Joseph is a better guard than Buenning was his rookie year and nobody is sure how well Buenning will make the swap to center if he can even make it at all.