New York Jets Discussion [Archive] - Page 23

thetedginnshow

06-09-2009, 11:23 PM

''People don't look at us as a contender and don't respect us like they should,'' Crowder said. ''Guys were telling me how weak our schedule was, how we got lucky and won a lot of close games. . . . The Patriots say they're the team to beat, but we're AFC East champions.'' Crowder said the Jets' brashness is ''amazing to me.'' Jets safety Kerry Rhodes said on Twitter that ''we will be the best defense in the league! I feel for the offenses we are gonna face.'' Jets coach Rex Ryan also spoke boldly.

''They're still talking junk, Rex Ryan saying they're the toughest team in the NFL,'' Crowder said. ``They got a quarterback, but I don't know how you add toughness with a quarterback [rookie Mark Sanchez]. If they want to be the OTA champions, they can have it. We whupped them last year.''

Sanchez posed in GQ ''talking on the phone,'' Crowder said. ''That was very soft-ish.'' Crowder said Rhodes ''should worry about his own [off-field] problems'' -- police are investigating a rape of a woman at Rhodes' home, but Rhodes is not a suspect.

In contrast to Sanchez, Crowder said Chad Henne ''is not going to get in GQ and do a spread. Chad Pennington is the same way. I like [Henne's] swag -- Ronnie Brown and I were talking about that. He has that cool, calm that Tom Brady and Peyton Manning have. His arm is ridiculously strong. He'll be a great quarterback.''

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/miami-dolphins/story/1085290.html

Ryan didn't wait to address the remarks. In fact, in his just-concluded presser following a mini-camp practice - and with his father, former Eagles and Cardinals coach Buddy Ryan sitting in on the press conference - Rex Ryan brought the Crowder comments up before anyone asked.

"I don’t know this Channing Crowder," Ryan said. "All I know is that he’s all tatted up. He’s right about one thing. I’m a first-time head coach, but I’ve been around the game all my life. I'm no different than I’ver ever been, just that more people are listening."

Ryan's take on Crowder saying you don't win in June?

"I think he’s wrong," Ryan said. "You do win in June. You win with your preparation. If it was younger, I’d handle him myself. He’s a good player and all that kind of stuff and it is fun to ruffle some feathers. I’ve got no problem doing that. I’m confident in our football team. I'm confident in myself, the players, the coaches and the entire organization. That’s why I say the things I say. I make no apologies for any of those types of things."

More Rex:

"I know one thing. Our football team is going to be prepared and we're’ going to play our tails off and we’re going to give everything we got. If people have trouble with it, live with it, because it's gonna happen."

Asked if Ryan was providing additional motivation for teams with his boastful comments, he said: "If that motivation is going to get them an edge, if they need that, fine. They're going to get 100 percent of what we have. We’ll see if that’s good enough."

On the Belichick comment about not kissing the Patriots coach's three Super Bowl rings: "I'm nog going to concede anything. I’m not inidimidated by him or anyone else in this business, period. Our football lteam certainly won't be intimidated either. If there are issues with that, so be it."

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/football/bob_blog/2009/06/rex_ryan_doesnt_back_down_from.html

I love Rex. And now I hate Crowder.

JETS5128

06-09-2009, 11:39 PM

Rex's response is perfect. I really love the identity he's trying to place on the jets

The Great Jonathan Vilma

06-10-2009, 11:33 AM

Man do i love inter-division rivalries. Keep turning up the heat, I want to see some hatred when they play!

msolimani

06-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Yeah I can't wait for our games against the Phins, they're going to be intense, hard hitting games to say the least. Crowder acts like they hands down "whupped" us last year. He forgets that we took the opener in their stadium, and Favre threw away the game in the finale. Crowder is a jack ass.

josh07039

06-10-2009, 05:43 PM

Don't feel like looking for a link, but Sanchez was reportedly signed per ESPN. I think 50mil 28 guaranteed over 5 years.

thetedginnshow

06-10-2009, 06:59 PM

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets and quarterback Mark Sanchez reached an agreement on a five-year contract Wednesday.

The Jets made the announcement while Sanchez, the fifth overall pick in the NFL draft in April, was still at practice during the afternoon session of minicamp.

"This is just the beginning," Sanchez said after practice. "I'll be working everyday to justify this contract."

The five-year deal is worth $50 million, with $28 million in guarantees, a source told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen. The deal could be worth as much as $60 million.

"This allows for two things," Sanchez said. "First, it's one huge thing behind me, a big weight lifted off all of our shoulders. They know that I'm all about football and that's all that I have to focus on now. Secondly, it allows me to get involved in the community here and back home."

Sanchez led Southern California to a Rose Bowl victory over Penn State with a record-setting performance in his final college game. He's competing with veteran Kellen Clemens for the Jets' starting job, up for grabs after the retirement of Brett Favre.

"The one thing that really comes to my mind is, breath of fresh air and, wow, let's go now," Sanchez said. "Let's really compete for this job and let's get into camp. I'll be in on time and I have nothing to worry about there. It's time to focus on football."

New York's last two top picks, linebacker Vernon Gholston and cornerback Darrelle Revis, reported to training camp late while trying to negotiate deals.

"We had some discussions a few weeks ago," general manager Mike Tannenbaum said of Sanchez's representatives. "I give them a lot of credit. We were trying to create a sense of urgency, even though it's still early. ... We didn't think there was any need to wait if both sides could create that sense of urgency and if both sides could come up with a deal that was good for both sides."

Added Sanchez: "It sends the right message. It's not in my makeup to hold out like that. That would've just been terrible for me."

Sanchez has impressed at times during organized team activities and minicamp practices, showing lots of poise, confidence and good decision-making skills. He and Clemens have been about even in their competition.

"You gain confidence as you go," Sanchez said earlier Wednesday. "Now I am starting to really feel the defense and see what is going on. As difficult as our defense can be I am starting to get an idea."

The Jets made a bold draft-day move to get Sanchez, acquiring the fifth overall pick from Cleveland and former coach Eric Mangini for their first-round pick, their second-rounder (No. 52), and defensive end Kenyon Coleman, safety Abram Elam and quarterback Brett Ratliff.

Sanchez went 14-2 as a starter with the Trojans. His lack of experience -- he had only one full season as a starter -- had some questioning whether he was truly ready for the NFL, but the Jets loved what they saw of him in private workouts and a classroom session in a hotel room at the owners' meetings in California in March.

After drafting Sanchez, coach Rex Ryan said there would be an open competition for the quarterback job.

"We've got two really good quarterbacks, and the competition is going to be fierce," Ryan said on the first day of minicamp Tuesday. "At training camp, it's going to be a great battle."

Sanchez already is becoming a fan favorite, with several fans in the crowd at minicamp wearing his No. 6 jersey. He also has gotten lots of attention, befitting that of a budding star in New York, with a swimsuit spread in GQ magazine, throwing out the first pitch at a Mets game and tabloids wondering about his love life.

But Sanchez says he's concentrating on his game on the field.

"I think that more than anything, the next couple of days are vital," he said. "I have to show that I'm really coming along from rookie camp. Then next week, we have rookie OTAs for first- and second-year guys and rookies. With all of the veterans gone, that is my chance to really take charge and assume command of the offense."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4249402

This is ridiculous. I feel like we got a huge deal here. Not only did he sign early, but he's making less per year than Stafford and Ryan, not to mention this is the lowest amount of guaranteed money for a top 5 QB in the past four or so years. That's amazing. He's getting 14 mil less than Stafford guaranteed. Sanchez is a cool guy.

thetedginnshow

06-10-2009, 08:48 PM

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- And now it's time for your daily AFC East smack update.

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Miami Dolphins linebacker Channing Crowder took another verbal run at New York Jets coach Rex Ryan, who on Tuesday called out Crowder for calling him out about calling out New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick.

It all started when Ryan told New York sports-radio station WFAN he didn't take the Jets job to kiss Bill Belichick's rings and wasn't intimidated. Crowder interjected -- if this were hockey he'd get a game misconduct for third man into a fight -- that Ryan should shut up because you don't win anything in June.

Ryan suggested he didn't know who Crowder was, but if Ryan were younger, he would fight Crowder. And that you do win by preparing in the offseason.

"Oh, Lord, have mercy," Crowder told Miami Herald reporter Jeff Darlington. "What's wrong with him? Now he's talking about preparation? We play them twice this year. If he wants to be prepared, shouldn't he know the starting middle linebackers of his division rival?

"He says he'd take care of me if he was younger? I'd have beat the hell out of that big old joker. Or if he really wants to get retro, my daddy or my uncle could have handled him. Don't get big. Win with preparation? Start watching some tape and learn who your rival is. Come on now."

Patriots coach Bill Belichick was asked what he thought of the entertainment Ryan has brought to the AFC East.

"I have a lot of respect for Rex, what he did in Baltimore, the defense his team has played," Belichick said after Wednesday's minicamp session. "We've always had great battles with the Jets. So I'm sure that will continue. It's a good rivalry. They beat us up here last year. They kind of got the last punch in on that one.

"It's a new year. Right now we are more focused on Buffalo than any other team in the division because we open with them [Sept. 14], but we know we are going to have to deal with Miami and the Jets as well, and we have a lot of respect for all those teams."

Not exactly a Joey Porter-style throwdown, but that's how the Patriots roll.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-8-170/More-trash-talk-than-a-rubbish-symposium.html

New York Jets coach Rex Ryan didn't seem like the retiring type.

In what's turning into a relentless back-and-forth brawl that would make Marvin Hagler and Thomas Hearns grimace, the verbal punches kept coming Wednesday.

I previously wrote about comments Miami Dolphins linebacker Channing Crowder's unleashed on Ryan.

Ryan didn't flinch. He fired back again.

"First off, Channing Crowder had a rebuttal," Ryan told reporters Wednesday in Florham Park, N.J. He was unable to keep a straight face. "I love it. The only thing I can say is -- and let's see if he can top this one -- I've walked over tougher guys going to a fight than Channing Crowder."

Ryan then laughed and seemed to brace for another Crowder counterpunch.

"The dude's going to kill me," Ryan said.

Ryan's players seem to be having fun with the biting discourse.

"Whatever coach wants to say, he can say anything and I'm going to ride with him," Jets linebacker Bart Scott said. "That's my man. I don't care what he says and likewise.

"If a player comes in and makes a statement, he's making a statement and expects his teammates to have his back because, realistically, you're a family, right or wrong. ... So it's up to us to make sure we back him up to make it right."

Said quarterback Kellen Clemens: "I like the swagger Coach Ryan has brought to the team and to the organization. They could call us cocky or arrogant or whatever. Who cares? Let's just go out there and win and that speaks the loudest."

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afceast/0-8-171/Ryan-ready-to-go-the-distance-with-Crowder.html

It just gets better.

princefielder28

06-10-2009, 09:39 PM

Props to you guys on signing Sanchez so quick and I have to say that I am so entertained by Rex Ryan; you guys are lucky to have such a fighter for a coach.

JETS5128

06-10-2009, 10:00 PM

I absolutely love the quotes from our players in response to Ryan's comments. IMO they couldn't be saying anything better

The Great Jonathan Vilma

06-10-2009, 10:04 PM

Pretty entertaining for this time of year. Great to get him in early. Considering the way rookie contracts are, and his position, that isn't a bad contract to have signed him too, and may be a slight deal (although i still feel its way to high, that is the way rookie contracts go). Great to have him signed early, nothing is worse than a holdout. Everything Sanchez has done has been in a positive light for me, and it makes me happy.

TimD

06-11-2009, 07:01 PM

is tomorrow the last day of OTAs? i think i may go. i didnt realize it was in florham park which is like 20 min from my house.

TimD

06-15-2009, 01:15 PM

New York Jets' Kris Jenkins tries a new position for a day

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/06/new_york_jets_kris_jenkins_tri.html

The last time Kris Jenkins played defensive end was 12 years ago in preseason camp as a freshman at the University of Maryland.

"And that was like for a day or two," Jenkins said.

But this week at Jets minicamp, head coach Rex Ryan has occasionally moved Jenkins away from his customary nose tackle position to defensive end. All a matter of experimenting, Ryan said.

"We know he can play nose tackle," Ryan said. "I also want to challenge him mentally to where he can learn all of the spots. That way, if we think we have a certain mismatch with our guy, then we'll put him in those spots."

Ryan made a similar move with Haloti Ngata while in Baltimore. But he said he sees Jenkins spending the majority of his time at the familiar tackle spot where has earned four Pro Bowl appearances.

Pretty cool...

Plaxico Burress' gun possession case adjourned until Sept. 23; New York Jets may make a bid for his services

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/06/exgiants_wide_receiver_plaxico.html

Ex-Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress' felony gun case was formally postponed Monday morning in Manhattan until Sept. 23, and it's not out of the question that he could play an uninterrupted NFL season in 2009.

Burress' lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, told reporters that he doesn't think NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will take any disciplinary action against Burress until the case is resolved. Burress' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, agreed, telling a Miami television station Sunday night that Burress may not go to trial until after the 2009 season.

The Jets, Chicago Bears and Tampa Bay Buccaneers have expressed interest in Burress. The commissioner may wait until Burress signs with a team before making a ruling. Thus, that team would be taking a huge gamble as to Burress' availability for the entire season.

The Jets have spoken to Rosenhaus only once -- just prior to the NFL Draft in April -- but they may resume discussions, especially after none of their receivers stood out during their recently concluded minicamp. The speedy David Clowney, whom the organization is high on, was inconsistent and I'm hearing his brilliant preseason performance against Cleveland last summer may have been because the stars were perfectly aligned that day -- perfect pass, perfect route, etc.

The Jets have not yet returned a call seeking comment.

Quarterback-turned-wide receiver Brad Smith and special teams ace Wallace Wright each had better camps than Clowney. Jets wide receiver coach Henry Ellard said the Jets "would love" to have Burress but he feels that they can still win without him.

That's a shame about David Clowney. Anyways I wouldn't be against getting Burress even before Goodell makes his decision. We could use a tall deep threat for whoever is at QB.

Crickett

06-15-2009, 03:40 PM

That's a shame about David Clowney. Anyways I wouldn't be against getting Burress even before Goodell makes his decision. We could use a tall deep threat for whoever is at QB.

It is but, this just makes me more puzzled. WHY DIDN'T THE JETS SIGN A WIDE RECEIVER???? There were plenty that were out there. Most of them still are. Granted they're not what you'd call "good", but they seem to be better than what the Jets have now.

Drew Bennett is still out there.
Marvin Harrison is still out there.
Darrell Jackson is still out there.
Matt Jones is still out there.
Brandon Lloyd is still out there
Jerry Porter is still out there.
Koren Robinson is still out there.
Reggie Williams is still out there.

Why are the Jets not even trying any of these guys out???

Gah! :(

thetedginnshow

06-15-2009, 04:10 PM

It is but, this just makes me more puzzled. WHY DIDN'T THE JETS SIGN A WIDE RECEIVER???? There were plenty that were out there. Most of them still are. Granted they're not what you'd call "good", but they seem to be better than what the Jets have now.

Drew Bennett is still out there.
Marvin Harrison is still out there.
Darrell Jackson is still out there.
Matt Jones is still out there.
Brandon Lloyd is still out there
Jerry Porter is still out there.
Koren Robinson is still out there.
Reggie Williams is still out there.

Why are the Jets not even trying any of these guys out???

Gah! :(

I can safely say that the latter five wouldn't fit in from a character standpoint. Bennett is overrated, Harrison is dying, and D-Jack can't handle pressure worth a damn. So that doesn't look like that great of a list to me. If we were going to sign someone, we should've signed Holt. But who knows. Maybe Brad Smith will be amazing somehow. If Randle El did it, I don't see why it'd be out of the question for him to be something similar.

And we got Greene signed. Pretty cool all of our draft picks are signed. Less cool that there was only three of them.

Crickett

06-15-2009, 04:54 PM

I can safely say that the latter five wouldn't fit in from a character standpoint. Bennett is overrated, Harrison is dying, and D-Jack can't handle pressure worth a damn. So that doesn't look like that great of a list to me. If we were going to sign someone, we should've signed Holt. But who knows. Maybe Brad Smith will be amazing somehow. If Randle El did it, I don't see why it'd be out of the question for him to be something similar.

I don't think Bennett is overrated considering he's a FA this late into the offseason. And with Mangini gone and the Jets looking to sign Plaxico Burress, I don't think the character concerns of the people listed are that much of a concern.

I'm not saying these are good options by any stretch, but counting on Clowney to be a #3 WR looks worse after reading that. As for Brad Smith, I called Brad Smith "Stone hands #2" (Justin McCareins was stone hands #1) when he played in 2007.

:(

thetedginnshow

06-16-2009, 02:38 AM

I don't think Bennett is overrated considering he's a FA this late into the offseason. And with Mangini gone and the Jets looking to sign Plaxico Burress, I don't think the character concerns of the people listed are that much of a concern.

I'm not saying these are good options by any stretch, but counting on Clowney to be a #3 WR looks worse after reading that. As for Brad Smith, I called Brad Smith "Stone hands #2" (Justin McCareins was stone hands #1) when he played in 2007.

:(

That's true. I guess we could get Bennett on the cheap. Of course, I would be willing to bet he'd get hurt in our weather, and I don't particularly fancy him a great blocker, which is something else I'd think they'd want. I don't know. It just seems like it'd be a waste to me.

But as for the character concerns, I was thinking of it in a different way. Some of those guys also have off-field issues, but all of them are "me" guys. I really don't think Plax is a "me" guy, and I think the most important thing to Rex is creating a team concept.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

06-16-2009, 08:38 AM

I view Bennett as another J-Mac, which i would like to steer clear of....and i'm sure Clemens would agree....

jmess15

06-19-2009, 08:49 AM

Theres a pretty big article in SI this week about Rex Ryan. It goes into detail about his life and mentions a lot about his dad. For those of you younger guys on the board it may be a good read to give you some perspective on Rex and his upbringing.

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1156765/index.htm

TimD

06-19-2009, 03:01 PM

wow that article is awesome. i now like Rex even more then i did which i thought was impossible.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

06-22-2009, 01:15 PM

Good read. I can't wait to see some smashmouth football. Tough D and strong running game...this is the type of team i've always wanted. Pre-season can't come soon enough. Judging by the amount of activity on the boards (lack there of), neither can anyone else.

jmess15

06-26-2009, 12:24 PM

Jets claimed Mario Urrutia on waivers. I think its a great low risk high reward move. remember him in the big east and thought he had a chance to be a player on Sundays. If nothing else he has potential and his size is definitely something that we lack!

msolimani

06-26-2009, 01:48 PM

Yeah i'm a big fan of this pickup. It shows we're looking under every rock for an answer at WR. The odds are against Mario to do big things for us, but at 6'6" I like that we're giving him a shot. I remember how good he was at Louisville, not sure if that was being a product of a high powered offense but i guess we'll find out.

Hurricanes25

06-29-2009, 05:03 PM

The Jets have claimed OL Mike Fladell off waivers from the Giants. He is a Rutgers guy so I hope he can stick with us.

josh07039

07-01-2009, 01:53 AM

The Jets have claimed OL Mike Fladell off waivers from the Giants. He is a Rutgers guy so I hope he can stick with us.I heard about it too, the more Rutgers guys on the Jets is a good thing. Hopefully he can make a good impression like Renkhart and Westerman have.

Hurricanes25

07-01-2009, 09:23 PM

Well, Fladell failed the physical and was cut. Short stay for him.

jmess15

07-02-2009, 06:25 AM

Well, Fladell failed the physical and was cut. Short stay for him.

we hardly knew ye

derza222

07-02-2009, 03:51 PM

Calvin Pace suspended for four games? Looks like Gholston may be forced into some play time a little earlier than expected.

josh07039

07-02-2009, 04:26 PM

Calvin Pace suspended for four games? Looks like Gholston may be forced into some play time a little earlier than expected.Don't worry we've got Westerman. He's got it covered.

Hurricanes25

07-02-2009, 04:37 PM

Calvin Pace suspended for four games? Looks like Gholston may be forced into some play time a little earlier than expected.

Don't worry we've got Westerman. He's got it covered.

According to the article below, Westerman has been tearing up OTA's and has been playing ILB. It says that Bart Scott can play outside. I still think Gholston will get the opportunity and he better do something with it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/07/02/pace-suspension-puts-more-pressure-on-gholston/

AlexDown

07-02-2009, 06:36 PM

That........is really disappointing

The Great Jonathan Vilma

07-02-2009, 10:58 PM

I can't speak, that is terrible news. Gholston gets a primo opportunity to prove Jets fans wrong, i hope he goes after it. No excuses...i expect to not get the same feeling that he just isn't trying again. It's sad that i'm scared at the possibility of what i may see...

josh07039

07-03-2009, 03:55 PM

I remember during OTAs, there were articles talking about Westerman being used both inside and outside. Unless I am not remembering correctly, it would probably make more sense to leave Bart Scott in his natural position where has been a force rather than move him off and have Westerman take his spot. If Westerman/Gholston prove they can't do it on the outside is when Scott should move over.

I'm disappointed, but I'm not too worried. Even if the first 4 opponents(NE,NO, Tenn, Hou) are tough teams, I think the defense is more than deep enough to excel without Pace.Even though Pace was really good last year, with the additions made in the offseason, the defense should still be dominant without him.

Last year, because the secondary outside of Rhodes and Revis was pretty weak, we needed to constantly generate a monstrous pass rush to be successful, with the addition of Leohnard, Sheppard, and even Scott who is good in coverage, our pass D should be much improved. Additionally, even without Pace, we should be able to get loads of pressure because of the other talent and Ryan's scheme.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

07-08-2009, 01:06 PM

derza222

07-08-2009, 05:15 PM

I agree, i see no reason to move Scott, as i would rather he play where he is most comfortable so that he can focus on being a leader, not having to worry about his short lived move to a new position....doesn't make too much sense to me.

Not like our depth at ILB much better if at all than our depth at OLB if at all (personally I don't think it is) so I absolutely agree.

Anybody think there's a decent chance Murrell starts over Gholston (or anyone else starts over him for that matter) for the first four games? And if so, how much will the media criticize VG, and how much of it would be warranted? Does he need to start the first four games now or would it still be acceptable for him to be a situational guy in the beginning of his second year with our top OLB out?

jmess15

07-08-2009, 06:54 PM

from my persepctive it would be fine if he is a sitautional pash rusher in the beginning while Pace is out (but I have low expectations) but the media will likely have a field day. I look at this as his rookie year so I am not expecting a lot early on, now if we lose Pace in week 16 and he still isn't starting then we should worry.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

07-08-2009, 10:03 PM

I disagree, as i think people would have a right to be critical of him if he doesn't start during Pace's suspension. The fact is that he was a high pick and is making very good money. If he can't come in and contrinbute when the team needs him, and a looking at the players that would be 'starting' over him, that really isn't saying much. The fact is, that if we don't view it as a disappointment it simply shows that we have lost considerable amounts of hope with regards to Gholston and that we are making excuses for him. Plain and simple, he needs to show up....

jmess15

07-09-2009, 08:27 AM

[QUOTE=we are making excuses for him. Plain and simple, he needs to show up....[/QUOTE]

Agree 100% that we are making excuses for him, but IMO its better to coddle him a little while longer than call him a bust and discard him too soon. I think last year was a waste for him because Mangini never had any confidence in him and he never was able to show what he could do. Lets give him time and by time I mean more than 5 weeks in training camp to come around.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

07-09-2009, 09:04 AM

I don't want to 'coddle' anyone. This guy is making big money, played a 'man style' college game, and needs to step up and stop feeling bad for himself, if that is the case. I agree you don't call him a 'bust' to the 100th degree and discard him, but there is more to it than just blaming Mangini. Mangini was an tool, no arguement, but it isn't 100% his fault that Gholston did absolutely nothing while on the field and didn't look ethusiastic and energized. Maybe he was confused and all that, but even when rushing the passer he wasn't 100% going after it, and no everything changes from college to the NFL. GET THE QB! I'll continue to wait on him, obviously, but if he can't do anything in the 4 week period when a chance is given, he is disappearing in my mind. If he wasn't a 6th overall pick, he wouldn't be in the league.....performance is performance, just because he has a big cap hit and salary doesn't mean he's going to come around. I'm rooting for him, but this is a BIG time for him...

derza222

07-16-2009, 02:03 PM

The Great Jonathan Vilma

07-20-2009, 04:37 PM

With LW possibly not getting an extension, or things not seeming to be coming to a close at least, I started thinking about the future of this team. Obviously as any team does, the Jets have a lot of nice talent that's on rookie contracts or guys that (outside of high draft picks) haven't really gotten their first big payday. Unfortunately, the front office is going to decide to move some of that talent because (unless the NFL without a cap actually happens) the team needs to stay under the cap. So I was wondering what the opinion of my fellow Jets fans is. Of our young talent, some higher level guys and some unproven to this point, who stays and who does the FO decide may not be worth the money they decide that they want?

I compiled a quick list of players (keep in mind some of these guys could project to do better but may not...it's really just everyone's best guess how they produce between now and when it comes time for a new deal). I also left out rookies but you can obviously add them in if you want, or anyone else you feel I left out. Who on this list (or off it) is or isn't a long-term Jet?:

Kellen Clemens
David Clowney
Mike DeVito
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Vernon Gholston
David Harris
Dustin Keller
Nick Mangold
Darrelle Revis
Brad Smith
Chansi Stuckey
Leon Washington

It really comes down to price, but my stays, while assuming the associated pricetag are:

Clowney (he won't be that expensive. Hold him and hope he breaks out)
DeVito (won't be expensive, and is a solid player)
Ferguson (solid but not spectacular, you need that LT, and hopefully the price tag is reasonable)
Harris (depends on the pricetag, but i think it will be worth it)
Keller (Strictly a pass catching TE, don't overpay unless he becomes a fulltime player)
Mangold (need that leader in the middle of the line)
Revis (You don't let elite CBs go)
Stuckey (will be cheap, hopefully is a solid slot guy)
Smith (hasn't proven much, depends on the pricetag)

Didn't make it:
Clemens (i'd like to keep him, but will the price be too high assuming him backup status?)
Gholston (he's making big money, what will the next contract be? Based on what i've seen, don't overpay)
Washington (this is the guy i want to see stay, but i'm not sure the pricetag will work. He is a gamebreaker who gives great return ability, but how much do you pay him? A Greene/Washington backfield would make me happy, but i'm not sure it will happen).

We need to get away from this high pick area where the pricetags are rediculous. I agree that QB, pass rusher, or LT are the way to go when you are there though, but pricetags are high and eat cap space. We need Sanchez to get it done NEXT year. This season is obviously the grace period.

derza222

07-22-2009, 06:43 PM

Looks like Rex named VG the starter for weeks 1-4, a bit early perhaps but hopefully it gives the guy confidence and is the right call. Also he thinks the #2 WR is on the roster, he made a reference to hoping he can catch in pads so maybe it's not Stuckey since he's at least somewhat proven, but I'd imagine he's the most likely.

jmess15

07-23-2009, 08:03 AM

Looks like Rex named VG the starter for weeks 1-4, a bit early perhaps but hopefully it gives the guy confidence and is the right call.

I saw that. Looks like Rex is trying to motivate him. He's getting his chance, just hope there isn't a pulled hammy in his future that sets him back.

Hurricanes25

07-23-2009, 03:33 PM

derza222

07-23-2009, 05:13 PM

Well Gholston is getting his chance and he better make the most of it. In those first 4 games he better at least get 2 sacks. He has to at least give us some hope that he will turn out good in the future.

It's tough to say just I definitely want to see 2 sacks in the first 4 games. While at least 2 sacks would be nice, more than anything I'd like to see a really good motor for Gholston. Not sure that's something we can ever expect, but that would be absolutely awesome. Along with that, consistent pressure on the QB and holding the edge in the run game would be nice perks as well.

I guess I'm trying to say that sacks are kind of bonuses, I'd rather see 5 or 6 near sacks that cause the QB to release it quick then 2 fluke coverage sacks but really nothing else. I definitely get what you're saying just wanted to elaborate and give my perspective. Definitely a huge opportunity for him, lets hope he can take some advantage and really get some momentum to start the year.

It's pretty quiet on this board right now but there's been some posting recently and TC is coming up, so hopefully we get some good chatter going soon.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

07-24-2009, 09:59 PM

I want to see Gholston show some HEART. He looked lazy and unethusiastic previously. QB pressures are what i'm looking for as that is what we need from him. If his rush game isn't working, then his strength is no longer a strength and i'm not sure what other assets he would bring at this point.

Sacks would be nice, but pressures are the key.

jmess15

07-27-2009, 01:10 PM

Just thought I'd mention that Vern changed his number to # 50...

Hurricanes25

07-27-2009, 08:12 PM

Just thought I'd mention that Vern changed his number to # 50...

Im so happy I didnt buy myself a Gholston jersey last year. I was so close but I went with Cotchery instead. Looks like I made the right decision.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

07-27-2009, 10:23 PM

I got a Revis last year. Now i'm trying to decide who to get this season. I want to see what Washington gets. Sanchez is the sexy pick at the moment. Maybe Harris if he bounces back.

Crickett

07-27-2009, 11:18 PM

I got a Revis last year. Now i'm trying to decide who to get this season. I want to see what Washington gets. Sanchez is the sexy pick at the moment. Maybe Harris if he bounces back.

I'm going to get a Revis jersey IF Favre signs with the Vikings. Otherwise I'm standing pat with my 2 Vilma jersies and my Favre jersey. Also because it seems like every time I buy a jersey, the player is traded or leaves.

And jerseys are expensive. :(

derza222

07-28-2009, 03:02 AM

I think I might get myself a Keller jersey. Right now I've got a ton of Jets jerseys, but only one active Jet, Rhodes. C-Mart and Chrebet retired Jets so those I still enjoy, but I've also got Abraham, Moss, Coles, and Pennington. I'd go Revis if he wasn't so close to Rhodes in both number and position. Keller isn't an obvious stud yet but he definitely could be so I'm hoping he breaks out if I do get the jersey.

jmess15

07-28-2009, 07:28 AM

I'm going to get a Revis jersey IF Favre signs with the Vikings. Otherwise I'm standing pat with my 2 Vilma jersies and my Favre jersey. Also because it seems like every time I buy a jersey, the player is traded or leaves.

And jerseys are expensive. :(

Agree 100%. I have a closet full of Jerseys from guys who are long gone. I've decided to stick with the classics that never go out of style (Curtis, Chrebet, Klecko etc).

I am also the guy that bought Marvin Jones's jersey his rookie year. Only problem was he wore 54 in his rookie year because 55 was taken. Then lo and behold 55 is available the next year and he switches...damn!!!! Still pissed about it.

derza222

07-30-2009, 02:16 PM

Saw some rumors that the team is looking at the veteran WR market. Amani Toomer, Marvin Harrison, and Matt Jones were the names I saw there, and I saw the Jets pop up in a seperate Jones piece as an interested team. Certainly a low risk high reward if he signs cheap and he's certainly a nice big target for a younger QB. Could be a nice signing if he's actually got his life together, and if not he could always be cut.

Also saw a rumor that Leon is getting closer to a new deal. Doesn't sound like anything's guaranteed, but it would be nice to lock him up long-term at like $4/5 million a year which is what the beat writers seem to think it will eventually get done at if it gets done.

thetedginnshow

07-30-2009, 02:26 PM

jmess15

07-30-2009, 06:31 PM

I saw the Jets pop up in a seperate Jones piece as an interested team. Certainly a low risk high reward if he signs cheap and he's certainly a nice big target for a younger QB. Could be a nice signing if he's actually got his life together, and if not he could always be cut.

i think its worth a shot...

The Great Jonathan Vilma

07-30-2009, 10:43 PM

Get Leon in camp! 4/5 mill is fine by me. More than that i am questioning it until his offensive workload increases and he shows he can handle it.

thetedginnshow

08-01-2009, 03:07 AM

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derza222

08-01-2009, 03:36 PM

Get Leon in camp! 4/5 mill is fine by me. More than that i am questioning it until his offensive workload increases and he shows he can handle it.

So Leon's in camp, but no new contract. Seems like he's pretty unhappy about it. Hopefully he doesn't hold it against the team when it comes time to negotiate down the road if something doesn't get done. Pretty clear that 4/5 mill a year is fair right now though, so either Tanny is really really lowballing him or he thinks he's worth a ton.

Shane P. Hallam

08-03-2009, 09:02 AM

derza222

08-03-2009, 11:03 AM

12 guy fight in camp! It got broken up.

2nd Fight: "DT Howard Green & FB Brock Christopher. Green throws him to ground. Gholston kicks someone"

3rd Fight: "Nevin McCaskill & DB Ahmad Carroll. Revis clowns by jumping on pile"

Damn, Jets are fired up!

Ha, so awesome. I knew there were going to be some fights with all of the jawing going on, but they got one going real quck. The two parts that amused me the most were Gholston getting involved and Revis clowning around and jumping on the pile. Surprised Scott wasn't involved in either also.

Hurricanes25

08-03-2009, 06:29 PM

The Jets have claimed Kevin Brock off waivers. He is a TE from Rutgers. He is a great blocker and can help us in the run game. I hope he can stick and make the team.

derza222

08-05-2009, 10:27 PM

princefielder28

08-05-2009, 10:28 PM

The team cut Mario Urrutia to make room for Aundrae Allison, who was claimed off waivers from the Vikes. Just throwing more crap against the wall and hoping it sticks there, or so it seems. Also apparently Britt Davis is having a nice camp at WR:

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/08/ny_jets_undrafted_rookie_britt.html#more

I think you guys may have just signed a future impact player in Allison. He's talented but Childress never seemed to like him and the Vikes never had much at the QB position to help his development.

jmess15

08-06-2009, 07:43 AM

The team cut Mario Urrutia to make room for Aundrae Allison, who was claimed off waivers from the Vikes. Just throwing more crap against the wall and hoping it sticks there, or so it seems. Also apparently Britt Davis is having a nice camp at WR:

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/08/ny_jets_undrafted_rookie_britt.html#more

was rooting for Urrutia but to get cut this early only means he hadn't shown anything. I think they must believe they have an answer in camp at WR because we have seen a few veterans signed in recent days (Toomer, Hacket) that I thought we were monitoring for fall back options.

thetedginnshow

08-06-2009, 03:37 PM

I liked Allison.

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derza222

08-06-2009, 11:57 PM

I think you guys may have just signed a future impact player in Allison. He's talented but Childress never seemed to like him and the Vikes never had much at the QB position to help his development.

Well this team could certainly use an impact player at WR, that's for sure. I know he's had his issues with consistency and work ethic, so hopefully getting cut is a wake up call and he brings it in camp and makes the team. There is obviously a dearth of talent at WR, but I wonder if this is also a sign that David Clowney is not having the camp that the team was hoping. The two are certainly somewhat similar in skill set and lack of production, maybe it's possible that Allison outplays Clowney he'll get cut. I had thought it was kind of a foregone conclusion that he'd make the team.

jmess15

08-12-2009, 10:31 AM

two blurbs from Rotoworld:

The Jets have increased their contract offer to Leon Washington "considerably," according to the New York Daily News.

The National Football Post reports that the Jets are "gauging interest" in Thomas Jones and have placed a call to an NFC West club.

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They say the reports are they raised Leon's avg salary to 4.5 million and that they think T. Jones may only get a 4th round pick in return. I'm of with the 4.5 for leon, but would hope we get better than a 4th for TJ.

timewaster

08-12-2009, 12:20 PM

The National Football Post reports that the Jets are "gauging interest" in Thomas Jones and have placed a call to an NFC West club.

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False?

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/08/ny_jets_not_shopping_rb_thomas.html

A rumor on nationalfootballpost.com that the Jets are shopping veteran running back Thomas Jones to an NFC West team is not true, according to a person with knowledge of the club's plans. That person spoke on the condition of anonymity because he's not authorized to speak on the matter publicly.

The Jets will be without Revis, Mangold, Jenkins and Moore on Friday night.

derza222

08-14-2009, 03:09 PM

Jets football in like three hours!! It's been a damn long time. What are you guys looking for tonight?

I'm hoping the WR's show the ability to get open, the defense has the ability to confuse the offense and get a decent amount of pressure, and the offensive line holds up in the run game. One of the quarterbacks looking nice would be pretty sweet also.

thetedginnshow

08-14-2009, 04:36 PM

I want Sanchez to guarantee a victory over the mighty Rams and then run into the tunnel with a finger held high after our triumph.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

08-14-2009, 05:14 PM

I'm excited and nervous all at the same time!! I'd love for one of our QBs to have a great game, and Shonn Greene show that he can be a lead runner. QB, WR and OLB will be the three positions i watch most closesly

derza222

08-14-2009, 06:13 PM

Well at least the defense looked pretty solid on that first possession...Pretty ugly by Hunter to start off and the offense looked out of sync. We'll see how it goes the second time around.

M.O.T.H.

08-14-2009, 06:18 PM

Nice block by Clemens there.

derza222

08-14-2009, 06:37 PM

Not a bad result on #6's first play under center.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

08-14-2009, 06:48 PM

great first drive with Mark at the helm. Beatiful pass to Clowney. Nice work by Keller thus far. Nice to see the attacking defense get to the QB. Looks like Kerry Rhodes will be getting after the QB this year.

Man am i pumped!

Hurricanes25

08-14-2009, 06:48 PM

Defense is looking good so far and a pretty good first drive for Sanchez.

Crickett

08-14-2009, 07:13 PM

zomg, Ahmad Carroll didn't fail!!!!

aNYtitan

08-14-2009, 07:31 PM

Your QB of the future looked pretty good out there on the field. You gained a fan of Mark Sanchez, cause I'm really pulling for him to succeed and be an icon of the Spanish community in football, given that the ehnicity is so underrepresented in the league.

josh07039

08-14-2009, 09:42 PM

thetedginnshow

08-16-2009, 03:09 AM

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I like the Mangold/TJ one the most.

Splat

08-17-2009, 10:17 AM

Jets DE Ellis suspended for 1 game, fined $100,000 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txjetsellissuspended&prov=st&type=lgns)

josh07039

08-17-2009, 12:03 PM

Jets DE Ellis suspended for 1 game, fined $100,000 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txjetsellissuspended&prov=st&type=lgns)That 1st game against the Texans could be more trouble than it should be. We'll be without Pace and Ellis, two of the stalwarts of our defense. Hopefully we'll still be able to generate loads of pressure without them.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

08-17-2009, 09:27 PM

Oh come on! What's the deal!?! haha. I got a bad feeling about game 1

jmess15

08-18-2009, 12:25 PM

hey...Favre is signing with the Vikes...LOL

Crickett

08-18-2009, 12:47 PM

I was impressed with

Mark Sanchez - Looks less like Matt Leinart and more like Carson Palmer.

Dave Clowney - Yeah yeah I know, its the preseason.

Calvin Pace - Its only 4 games..... its only 4 games..... its only 4 games.....

Overload Blitzes - Are fun to watch when you're rooting for the defense. :D

Who I was unimpressed with

Kellen Clemens - 4 completions for 24 yards. This is why the Jets needed Sanchez. I don't think Clemens was a poor man's Pennington when he was a draft prospect. But having learned from Pennington, he is a poor man's Pennington now.

Vernon Gholston - I'm really close to just writing him off a bust and eating my crow given that I wanted the Jets to draft him.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

08-18-2009, 07:25 PM

Eh, don't feel bad about Gholston, he did more this game than any other. I actually saw him chasing a QB!!!

Hurricanes25

08-19-2009, 12:30 AM

I was very impressed by ILB Kenwin Cummings. He was all over the field making plays. I want to see some more of him but I think he is close of playing his way onto the roster.

derza222

08-19-2009, 12:19 PM

I was very impressed by ILB Kenwin Cummings. He was all over the field making plays. I want to see some more of him but I think he is close of playing his way onto the roster.

He's really solid, though hopefully he doesn't have to see the field too much. Looks to be a good fit in Ryan's system.

Saw it out there so I had to post it, more rumors of going after a vet WR from Cimini. Apparently there have been "discussions". He mentions Marshall and Bowe, though both seem to be unlikely and Bowe is purely speculation. Really depends what they'd give up given the team needs draft picks to stay young and improve depth. Still highly doubt anything happens, but I'd love Bowe.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

08-24-2009, 09:06 AM

The Sanchez Era Part II happens tonight. Tough defense to play against, so i won't be to disappointed if he doesn't look as good as last game. Very excited to see the game.

bigbluedefense

08-24-2009, 09:12 AM

i hope it doesn't get too intense between our teams in week 3. the giants are gonna come out fired up bc of the embarrassment against the Bears. and the Jets will be fired up bc of the rivalry.

i just hope both teams come out of it healthy.

thetedginnshow

08-24-2009, 07:04 PM

FRRAAAAAAANCHEZ time!!!

D:

derza222

08-24-2009, 07:43 PM

FRRAAAAAAANCHEZ time!!!

D:

Marky Mark is having a hard time, but LW looks fantastic this drive. I really hope he gets extended.

thetedginnshow

08-24-2009, 08:11 PM

Nice bounceback by Sanchez. Interested to see how Clemens will do when he gets in.

derza222

08-24-2009, 08:17 PM

Nice bounceback by Sanchez. Interested to see how Clemens will do when he gets in.

Yeah it should be interesting, he's done well against the Ravens in the past but a lot of the first team is out of there so it's tough to compare. Leon still looked fantastic that drive, really carried the offense. EXTEND HIM NOW!!!! I want an announcement after the game lol.

Crickett

08-24-2009, 08:19 PM

Leon Washington: What Reggie Bush was supposed to be. :D

The Jets WR's: THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE. :( :( :(

thetedginnshow

08-24-2009, 08:22 PM

Oh but I have to say thank god for Darrelle Revis. Dwight Lowery is absolutely terrible.

Crickett

08-24-2009, 08:24 PM

Oh but I have to say thank god for Darrelle Revis. Dwight Lowery is absolutely terrible.

Yeah. I had hopes for Lowry as a long term option at CB, but he doesn't look like it today.

thetedginnshow

08-24-2009, 08:30 PM

Well then.

Crickett

08-24-2009, 08:31 PM

The New York Jets: They're going 0-2 in the preseason.

Hurricanes25

08-24-2009, 08:34 PM

Anybody looking foward to Ainge later in this game because I know I am.

thetedginnshow

08-24-2009, 08:36 PM

Anybody looking foward to Ainge later in this game because I know I am.

He might just be the second best QB on our roster.

Hurricanes25

08-24-2009, 08:38 PM

He might just be the second best QB on our roster.

I am very close of removing the "I still believe in Kellen Clemens" from my sig.

Hurricanes25

08-24-2009, 08:50 PM

Alright, Clemens gives me a reason to believe in him. Great catch by Clowney. He is a pre-season monster.

derza222

08-24-2009, 09:57 PM

Ainge honestly looks pretty decent, though he's not getting a ton of help from his wideouts. Hopefully he continues to develop and show some things, he can at the very least be a solid backup or we can get something for him in awhile.

Gruden making it seem like he thinks he knows that there's a WR coming in sometime soon which is interesting.

Crickett

08-24-2009, 10:00 PM

Gruden making it seem like he thinks he knows that there's a WR coming in sometime soon which is interesting.

I hope that's true. But just the same, what took so ****in long? We haven't learned much about the WR corps that we didn't know back in March.

Hurricanes25

08-24-2009, 10:05 PM

derza222

08-24-2009, 10:13 PM

Who are some available free agent Wide Receivers that would be a good fit with us?

Well could be a free agent or a trade. Free agent maybe they give in on Jones or go for Harrison but I doubt that happens. I'd say Harrison is the more likely of the two though I kind of prefer Jones as a fit. Trade the Marshall/Bowe stuff has been thrown around, both would be studs though I'd prefer Bowe. On the WR topic, wonder if Allison makes the roster. He looks explosive but definitely made some mistakes out there.

thetedginnshow

08-24-2009, 10:15 PM

Is Bowe a real option or was that just a rumor because of his bad play recently? I'd actually give up more for him than Marshall.

Hurricanes25

08-24-2009, 10:19 PM

Is Bowe a real option or was that just a rumor because of his bad play recently? I'd actually give up more for him than Marshall.

I agree. I think Marshall is a better player but he brings too much baggage with him.

derza222

08-24-2009, 10:35 PM

Is Bowe a real option or was that just a rumor because of his bad play recently? I'd actually give up more for him than Marshall.

I think it's a rumor because he's been demoted so much by KC and Haley's giving him a hard time. Figured I'd throw it out there since it has been a rumor though. I'd definitely love Bowe, really like his playing style and as it's been said he's got less baggage.

jmess15

08-25-2009, 06:26 AM

Eh, don't feel bad about Gholston, he did more this game than any other. I actually saw him chasing a QB!!!

This week not so much. He played a lot tonight and other than the one downfield tackle I don't think he made an impact. He also spent a lot of time in the down position which is supposed to be what me is more comfortable with.

derza222

08-25-2009, 11:40 AM

Interesting that on ESPN (FWIW) there was some discussion of Marshall to the Jets in two areas. One was Schefter's blog, where he said that they have explored going after Marshall and Bowe but it was too cost prohibitive. Then Clayton said that Marshall would be a great fit here or in Baltimore, but unless one of the teams was willing to give up a 1 and a 4 (or the equivalent) it probably wouldn't happen. Seems like a lot to give up for a guy with Marshall's baggage, do you guys think it would be worth it?

As an aside, any defensive players you could see attempting to trade in a deal for Marshall or Bowe? Both Denver and KC are new 3-4 teams and while we really can't afford to give up any offensive weapons defensively it could make sense to try to deal somebody who may not be missed too much.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

08-25-2009, 11:49 AM

A 1 and a 4 is too high from my standpoint for a person with Marshall's problems. Talent-wise he is very worth it, but you never know with him. You never know in the draft either, but in the long run it is probably the safer route.

Expendable parts? We don't have great depth anywhere, and i'd rather keep most of the guys that would need to be involved.

Crickett

08-25-2009, 11:57 AM

Then Clayton said that Marshall would be a great fit here or in Baltimore, but unless one of the teams was willing to give up a 1 and a 4 (or the equivalent) it probably wouldn't happen. Seems like a lot to give up for a guy with Marshall's baggage, do you guys think it would be worth it?

No, nothing kills the value of a WR like baggage. Look no further than what T.O. garnered via trade.

derza222

08-25-2009, 08:14 PM

msolimani

08-25-2009, 10:56 PM

I definitely agree, not sure I want Marshall for any more than a bargain deal and even then I don't know if I'd want him around. Bowe on the other hand I'd love, definitely would think about the 1 and the 4 for him although with our potential record this year being all over the place I'd have to think twice about it.

Agreed, much rather have Bowe than Marshall. Marshall is one incident away from getting a long suspension. If he got in trouble in Denver, I couldn't imagine him doing better in NYC.

A 1st and 4th for Bowe would be a steal in my book. I don't think our record would be all over the place with him so I wouldn't mind trading the picks.

jmess15

08-26-2009, 09:13 AM

looks like he Sanchez era begins

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9987476/Jets-to-name-Sanchez-winner-in-QB-battle

thetedginnshow

08-26-2009, 09:14 AM

Franchez the starter!

msolimani

08-26-2009, 07:49 PM

Let the rollercoaster ride begin!!!

Hurricanes25

08-26-2009, 08:32 PM

derza222

08-26-2009, 10:53 PM

I just read somewhere that there is a rumor that Reggie Brown will be cut by the Eagles and the Jets are very interested in him. He's always had "potential" but has never really done anything. My question is, Is he better than what we've got or is he just another guy who may make the team as a #4?

Honestly based on what we've got he's probably a starting option and potentially our #2 guy based on how he performs in practice and whatnot, JMO. I'd love to give Stuckey a chance if we don't bring in a bona fide #1 guy but if they're intent on leaving him in the slot and he gets some play time there I think Reggie Brown may be a starter opposite Cotch with our awful WR group.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

08-27-2009, 04:14 PM

derza222

08-27-2009, 06:14 PM

Reggie Brown would probably be an upgrade over what is starting, although last year was a disappointment for him. He isn't exactly what we are looking for, but so long as it isn't a large contract, would be worth a shot given our current situation at the position.

I agree. The one argument I could see against a guy like Brown is he's got relatively limited upside. I'd say you're looking at about 50-60 catches for 700-800 yards best case. If you think one of the other young guys on the team CAN do better (Ryan seems to love Clowney), maybe give them a shot and see if they can develop into a long-term target for Sanchez. Kind of depends if you're looking to win now or later though. A guy like Matt Jones is different because he'd come cheap and has more upside, so I'd almost prefer him even with his off the field issues based on the current situation.

Looks like Clowney is getting more work with the one's now, Gholston is starting against the Giants (hopefully he shows a flash, though I won't be surprised if he doesn't), and Shonn Greene is going to probably be held out for the rest of the preseason as a precaution due to a rib injury. Ryan definitely does not like having injured guys on the field (presumably that will change come the regular season), very cautious which I like for the preseason, I just hope people aren't rusty.

josh07039

08-28-2009, 12:27 AM

My opinion on the receivers is that we should see what we have in clowney, stuckey, and brad smith. With an inexperienced qb as the starter, we all know that the offense will be based on ball control. Regardless of our wrs, the biggest parts of our passing game will be keller and cotch on short passes and leon in the flat. Having a guy like Brandon Marshall would help because he is a big target and will prevent interceptions and overthrows. However, I don't even think Marshall is necessary based on our offensive philosophy. Reggie Brown will not be a significant upgrade so he makes even less sense.

msolimani

08-28-2009, 01:17 AM

Hurricanes25

08-28-2009, 01:23 AM

I was hoping we made the trade for marshall until seeing this......http://www.thedenverchannel.com/video/20590420/index.html

I think we should stick with our guys that have been there all along unless some major upgrade becomes available (not named Brandon). Brad Smith needs to step up this year and really become a WR. Clowney will be great for the occasional deep plays and Stuckey will be a great slot guy for underneath routes.

After seeing that video of Brandon Marshall, no way I do I want him on our team. He is maybe the BIGGEST DIVA in the league. I dont think Brad Smith will ever develop into a good WR. I do want to see some trick plays with him this year that will utilize his arm in the wildcat. He can be a very dangerous weapon for us. Im pretty convinced that our #2 WR come the season opener is not on our team. Clowney is a good deep threat but not much more than that. I want Stuckey to remain in the slot because he was so good at it. He was born to play in the slot. In conclusion, I think we will go out and get a legitimate starter.

Crickett

08-28-2009, 12:22 PM

My opinion on the receivers is that we should see what we have in clowney, stuckey, and brad smith.

I wouldn't mind seeing what the Jets have in Clowney, Stuckey and Brad Smith (although I think we've already what Brad Smith has and it ain't much), but at the same time, I don't want the Jets to have to depend on both of them (Clowney and Stuckey) to excel. Reggie Brown could and probably would provide the Jets a mediocre #2 receiver. I don't know about you guys, but as soon as the Jets ended the draft without an early WR, that became what I was hoping the Jets would get. A cheap stopgap and fallback option in case Clowney or Stuckey failed to impress.

So far, Clowney has had some impressive plays, but he had some impressive plays in the preseason last year too and it did not translate into regular season success.
Then again, Clowney has been playing earlier this preseason (meaning against better defensive personnel) and has had a year to develop, so maybe he really can be the Jets legit deep threat.

Chansi Stuckey and Brad Smith have a combined 3 catches for 22 yards this preseason. And if I recall correctly, Brad Smith's once catch required him to jump fairly high so he could catch it directly in his chest.

josh07039

08-28-2009, 01:24 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing what the Jets have in Clowney, Stuckey and Brad Smith (although I think we've already what Brad Smith has and it ain't much), but at the same time, I don't want the Jets to have to depend on both of them (Clowney and Stuckey) to excel. Reggie Brown could and probably would provide the Jets a mediocre #2 receiver. I don't know about you guys, but as soon as the Jets ended the draft without an early WR, that became what I was hoping the Jets would get. A cheap stopgap and fallback option in case Clowney or Stuckey failed to impress.

So far, Clowney has had some impressive plays, but he had some impressive plays in the preseason last year too and it did not translate into regular season success.
Then again, Clowney has been playing earlier this preseason (meaning against better defensive personnel) and has had a year to develop, so maybe he really can be the Jets legit deep threat.

Chansi Stuckey and Brad Smith have a combined 3 catches for 22 yards this preseason. And if I recall correctly, Brad Smith's once catch required him to jump fairly high so he could catch it directly in his chest. I don't think Brad Smith will ever be a good 2 or even 3 wr. As for Clowney and Stuckey, Wallace Wright, etc we just don't know. Perhaps we will just keep rotating and riding the hot hand throughout the season opposite cotchery

I remember Ryan saying that Leon would get about 300 touches this year. Unless Ryan plans on running him into the ground, you have to assume he will be getting a lot of passes thrown his way on short routes and in the flat. Additionally, Keller has proven to be a good safety blanket who can also break tackles for YAC. Those two options in the pass game, combined with cotchery will mean that the other relievers dont need to do that much. If Stuckey can work the middle of the field and short routes and Clowney can work deep, we are set. If the O-line stays healthy, I expect to see Greene, Jones and Leon get carries like the Ravens did last year. Realistically, we don't want Sanchez throwing that much

Realistically, look at the ravens offense last year. They were similar to the Jets now with the rookie qb, good, oline, a strong stable of rbs, and not much depth at wide receiver behind mason. I think our stable of receivers combined with keller and Leon is more formidable than the Ravens.

derza222

08-28-2009, 02:00 PM

So far, Clowney has had some impressive plays, but he had some impressive plays in the preseason last year too and it did not translate into regular season success.
Then again, Clowney has been playing earlier this preseason (meaning against better defensive personnel) and has had a year to develop, so maybe he really can be the Jets legit deep threat.

Wasn't Clowney hurt with the collarbone issue last year and then kind of in Mangini's doghouse? I think it's worth at least seeing what he's got as opposed to going with a proven mediocre #2 like Reggie Brown. Otherwise we'll never actually see what he can do. I'd love to trade for a legit #1 guy or have our other starter not be on the roster right now like 'Canes said since drafting somebody just means you have to wait for them to develop, but I just don't know who it's going to be. Just watching the video of Marshall I thought Brandon his practice antics were pretty amusing, but clearly I don't want him on the team after that. Too distracting, seems like the type who will always want a raise plus the off the field issues don't help.

As an aside, I hope the team can finish this WR situation soon so they can move on to extending LW. He can be a huge part of the offense in the coming years. I think the sides are close enough on numbers to make the deal so maybe if a WR comes in and the team knows what his cap number is then they'll know what LW can get this year and stay under the cap as opposed to having him play for a different salary after this year which seems to be at least part of the holdup.

msolimani

08-28-2009, 03:19 PM

Yeah, Marshall has to be out of the question now after that display. He's also probably one more off the field incident away from a long suspension. Those two combined to equal the risk of what it would take to get him.

I honestly think we can win with our WR's, I think someone will step up and fill the #2 spot. Keller should have a monster year....TE=young QB's best friend

Crickett

08-29-2009, 07:12 PM

My one and only RL Jets fan friend had 4 tickets to tonight's game and I missed his call until now.

FML. FML. FML. FML. FML. FML. FML. FML. FML.

Hurricanes25

08-29-2009, 07:16 PM

Is everyone watching this game on NBC? These Giants announcers are really annoying. Id much rather listen to Ian Eagle than these 2 ********.

thetedginnshow

08-29-2009, 09:59 PM

Hurricanes25

08-29-2009, 10:30 PM

IMO, Sanchez looked great. Not quite at the level of the franchise QBs we've seen during this third week of the pre-season, but definitely better than loser Eli. I can really see Cotch filling that Derrick Mason type role this season. Not sure what to think about the other receiver spot though. It seems like it might just be a revolving door, taking advantage of mismatches. I could be wrong. We don't look half bad though.

Sanchez was great tonight. He seems to start off slow but once he gets into his groove, he is lights out. I was very impressed.

It was pretty painful watching Lito Sheppard. He was getting beat on every play and I think he had 2 pass interference calls against him. He better get his act together.

Vernon Gholston finally gets to the QB and he goes for the helmet to helmet hit. He finally does something positive but turns it into a negative. But Im just happy that he got to the QB.

I know it wont happen but Leon should be the starter. Thomas Jones has done nothing so far. Everytime Leon touches the ball, it seems like a big gain.

Cotch and Stuckey were great. I think we have our starting WR opposite Cotch. Did Clowney even play tonight?

Crickett

08-29-2009, 11:35 PM

It was pretty painful watching Lito Sheppard. He was getting beat on every play and I think he had 2 pass interference calls against him. He better get his act together.

Vernon Gholston finally gets to the QB and he goes for the helmet to helmet hit. He finally does something positive but turns it into a negative. But Im just happy that he got to the QB.

I know it wont happen but Leon should be the starter. Thomas Jones has done nothing so far. Everytime Leon touches the ball, it seems like a big gain.

Cotch and Stuckey were great. I think we have our starting WR opposite Cotch. Did Clowney even play tonight?

When the Jets got Lito, I was really happy. Now I don't think we need to worry about losing that second rounder, because its much less likely he will be back if that is how he is going to play.

You know when Stuckey started to shine with those two big catches including the touchdown on that one drive? It was 60 seconds after I mentioned to someone here that he hadn't done anything this preseason. I fail. :(

I wish I had gone to the game.

F

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JETS5128

08-30-2009, 12:18 AM

I was incredibly impressed with Sanchez tonight. Even when he wasn't making the greatest decisions he was putting his throws right on the money.

Also, Darrelle Revis is a machine, the end.

UKJetsFan

08-30-2009, 11:44 AM

derza222

08-30-2009, 01:09 PM

Hi Guys,

Didn't think it deserved its own thread and I can't figure out where else to put it, so without further adieu, here is stupid question number 1! (Of many probably).

I'm going to be in the Miami area in October and am looking to go to the Jets Dolphins game. Where is the best place for away fans to sit in the stadium?

I'm pretty sure I'm right in thinking it's a case of 'sit anywhere you like' as there is no away section as such, but thought I'd pick your brains first before ordering tickets.

Thanks for any help and sorry if it's in the wrong section etc.

Thanks,

Colin

Hey Colin, welcome to the forums! I don't really think it makes any difference where you sit at away games you can pretty much go wherever and you'll be fine. This was probably the best place you could have posted that also, so no problems there. Hope you have an awesome time at the game and keep posting here!

Completely unrelated but I don't want to double post. Anybody else think limiting Stuckey to the slot may be a mistake? I've wanted a reason to post this all preseason and I figure after last night's performance was as good a time as any. The guy is obviously a very talented receiver, great hands and he can definitely move some after the catch, and he's shown the ability to get open. Perhaps not a dominant #1, but he could be a very good #2 I think and sticking him in the slot all the time limits him. Let him learn some other positions, and then if we bring in a guy like Clowney in a 3 WR set to go deep or Smith even then you can move Stuckey into the slot and let him play from there. I think the guy can do more than just play the slot, and while he's ideal there he could be capable of more and he's getting pidgeonholed a little too much. Thoughts?

thetedginnshow

08-30-2009, 02:59 PM

derza222

08-30-2009, 04:55 PM

I think Stuckey is a more natural receiver than Smith and Clowney, and for that reason he should probably start opposite Cotch. Plus, bringing in Clowney every once in a while for the home run play would probably be more effective than him doing it every down. I think "very good #2" is stretching it, but he seems like our best option at the moment. Really, I think we should run the Single Wing and have both Leon and TJ out there instead of another receiver.

Very good #2 was not for this year but more down the road, at this point I think he's a borderline starter. I think he's got more than enough talent for it, the deep speed and height may not be there to be a #1 but as a #2 but the hands absolutely are and he's incredibly shifty after the catch.

Not the bulkiest guy ever but he definitely has enough height and is a good enough route runner to get open as long as he doesn't have to beat double teams. Slightly different after the catch running but his upside is basically a player that IMO is very, VERY similar to Cotchery, who I think also falls into the very good #2 category.

In fact I'll go as far to say that if he has considerably easier defensive matchups than Cotch I think he's capable of putting up similar numbers and I wouldn't be shocked if he put up better numbers.

thetedginnshow

08-31-2009, 02:05 AM

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-preseason/09000d5d8122a3f9/Rex-Ryan-wired

A little old, but awesome.

wicket

08-31-2009, 06:15 PM

derza222

08-31-2009, 06:39 PM

question: what are the odds of danny woodhead out of chadron state actually making the team. really liked the guy and was a bit bummed that he blew up his knee last year. if im not mistaking he had a pretty decent camp right?

I don't think they're great, though I'd really like him too. With four backs (Jones, Washington, Greene, and T-Rich as a FB) basically guaranteed to make the team it'll be tough to keep a fifth, particularly one who can't play FB and has a pretty similar skill set to Washington. He's pretty well liked by the fans, but in the numbers game that teams are going to have at this point in the season I just don't think the odds are in his favor. I'd love to keep him on the PS if at all possible (not totally clear on the rules there) or see him stick somewhere else. Definitely somebody I'll root for as long as he's in the league, hopefully he finds a way to make the Jets and stay in green and white for awhile.

derza222

09-02-2009, 06:55 PM

So I'm sure everybody's heard the rumors that we're interested in Marshall, and now people are starting to report that the Broncos want Harris in return. I thought it might come down to willingness to give up Harris since he's one of our better young defensive pieces and the teams we're looking to trade with are just installing 3-4 defenses.

Honestly I think Harris is replaceable as an inside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme and we've got some decent young talent there. I'd say it's pretty clear that a #1 WR is more valuable and Marshall not only fits our all weather offense but adds size and really makes our offense potentially dangerous.

The WR group would go from questionable #1, #2 by committee with a hands guy better suited for the slot, a speed guy who is only going to play situationally, a size/speed gadget guy who can run some wildcat and end arounds along with catching some screens to do damage after the catch, a #5 who is primarily a special teamer and needs more polish on offense, and possibly a developmental guy as a #6 to having a true #1 with Marshall, a very strong #2 in Cotchery, a talented slot guy with good hands and nice moves after the catch in Stuckey and a deep threat to share duties there in Clowney, Smith getting in the game with some gadget plays as a #5, and Wright to develop as a #6 since he's got such nice athleticism and let him do his thing on special teams for awhile where he's a stud (Smith is also very good there).

Then you've got the talented offensive line, the pass catching tight end, and the 3 headed monster at running back. There's really not much of a glaring weakness anywhere on offense provided people stay healthy (particularly the OL) and Sanchez performs (which is a question mark).

But with Marshall's attitude issues, is giving up one of our best young defensive players worth it? Questionable. I'd really say probably not, but I think from a talent and value perspective if it's just Marshall for Harris straight up Marshall carries more value. Beyond that here are some drops questions with Marshall though given the production you may have to throw those out the window. Otherwise I think the production you are going to get on offense allowing everybody else to slip into their strongest role with Marshall around outweighs whatever we lose in Harris at inside linebacker.

Then you've got the question of whether or not Harris will be sticking around past his rookie contract anyway (how much are you going to be paying two inside linebackers, provided Scott is still around by the time Harris' deal expires which he should be). And how much money is Marshall going to want? Will we be able to extend #29 (which IMO should be priority #1 at the moment) or will we only be able to extend Marshall? What kind of message would only extending Marshall send (I don't think a good one)?

I do think someone could step in for Harris and play well enough for the defense to get by. Perhaps that's the long term spot for Westerman and he just gets started there a little earlier than he would have otherwise. Cummings has played well this preseason also. Depth chart seems to indicate that Westerman would be stepping in, so while having a rookie there is rough it's possible that it wouldn't be too much of an issue. Ryan seems to emphasize the belief that players can step in for other players in this defensive scheme and the defense can keep on ticking, so one would hope that would be the case here. Plus Harris could have long-term injury issues, he had some problems last year and it seemed to be a bit of an issue in college, so if those end up being a problem it's a good deal.

All in all it's pretty easy to just say this is a ridiculous trade, but if no draft picks are involved I think the value actually favors the Jets by a decent amount and if they are depending on the picks it may not be a bad deal. Tannenbaum seems to rarely get completely ripped off anyway so if a deal goes down it probably won't be a bad one. It's unfortunate Marshall is such an idiot because as much as I love Harris something along these lines would be a pretty decent trade to make and IMO a no brainer to improve our team and give the franchise QB a legit weapon. At this point I doubt it happens so going through all of this was probably a waste, but it's definitely going to be an interesting situation to follow until either Marshall gets traded somewhere or the Jets address the WR situation like everyone expects they will.

thetedginnshow

09-02-2009, 07:11 PM

I was listening to Fran Tarkenton on Mike&Mike this morning and he made it pretty clear that it's a team sport, and guys like Marshall aren't worth the time. I agree. I don't care if he's the best WR in the league, that's really not worth it. It might be a little different if he didn't get injured, didn't beat women, and wasn't in the last year of his contract, but as is, definitely not worth it. I doubt it'd be straight up, and we're already giving up a draft pick next year for Lito. Giving up all those draft picks will eventually bite us in the ass, just like it did with the Redskins. And, this might lower Scott's value as they've been talking all summer about how having the two "Mike's" would diversify the defense, and now it'd be pretty easy to identify who was doing what. And honestly, our LB depth was pretty bad already. Then, provided we don't have to give up the first rounder, we'd go into next year's draft with one early pick having to be split on OL, DL, possibly RB, possibly ILB, possibly OLB, and if Marshall didn't re-sign, possibly WR.

I'm going to hope the team gets a say and they veto this.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

09-02-2009, 07:23 PM

I'm not into the Marshall trade situation. Stay away from the bad seeds. Having this many prblems this young isnt a good sign. I don't want a dominatnt and negative attitude like Marshall on the team, even if it does give some short-term benefits. Long-term i don't think it favours us.

derza222

09-02-2009, 07:33 PM

It really is unfortunate that Marshall's got issues because he could be such a solid addition. I'll have to fit into the no category also, but just by a slight margin because of the impact I think he could have. Character issues can, at times, be overblown based on the situation by the media. I really can't tell if this is one of these situations because I've never talked to the guy, given he's been in trouble repeatedly the issue may be relatively serious but it's tough to really tell.

Best case we can realistically hope for if a trade goes down is that he fits into the general attitude Ryan is looking for here and we get a Randy Moss to the Pats kind of situation where he kind of shuts up, behaves, and goes about his business. Unfortunately the general attitude around the team would probably encourage him to talk more, and we're really at that Patriots level yet. Maybe he'd at least behave, but I think anything's a lot to hope for.

Here's a question. Based on who is on the market and what they will cost (money/what in a trade) what do you think is a bigger priority, bringing in another WR or extending LW (assuming the contract is somewhere between 5 and 6 million/year which is probably what it takes to get it done, and starts this season)? I think I'll take LW.

Diehard

09-02-2009, 10:23 PM

For what it's worth...

The rumor making the rounds in Broncoland is Marshall to you guys for Harris and a 3rd. 104.3 is claiming it could get done tomorrow.

Crickett

09-02-2009, 10:24 PM

For what it's worth...

The rumor making the rounds in Broncoland is Marshall to you guys for Harris and a 3rd. 104.3 is claiming it could get done tomorrow.

I'd rather give up the 2010 first.

Plus, if the Jets trade Harris, who starts opposite Scott?

derza222

09-02-2009, 10:36 PM

I'd rather give up the 2010 first.

Plus, if the Jets trade Harris, who starts opposite Scott?

Westerman per depth chart, though it could be Cummings. It's a tough trade to make, really depends how confident Ryan is with the depth and the ability of the defense to pick up for the loss. Harris and a third is a very steep price, it's going to be a tough trade to swallow if it does go down. Hopefully Westerman is the real deal if that is the case. I'll also be very disappointed if we extend Marshall but not Leon, think that sends a really bad message.

Diehard

09-02-2009, 10:38 PM

I'd rather give up the 2010 first.

If the Broncos organization makes this move now, it needs to involve a player that will improve our team. Otherwise, McD needs to get Brandon on the field showing off his stuff... a deal for picks will still be there at the end of the season.

josh07039

09-02-2009, 11:01 PM

The only positive for me is that I would love to see more Jamal Westerman. Also, I think Marshall might behave for a year and then we can worry about it.

thetedginnshow

09-03-2009, 12:36 AM

If this trade gets done, I predict Tanny out by at latest the off-season.

Crickett

09-03-2009, 12:51 AM

ESPN is reporting that the Broncos want David Harris for Brandon Marshall. And that Denver is looking at the Jets for signs of tampering.

My thoughts

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2008/025/a/6/Radioactive_by_Simonarrow359.jpg

jmess15

09-03-2009, 08:00 AM

I'll also be very disappointed if we extend Marshall but not Leon, think that sends a really bad message.

I agree. You have to take care of Leon first before you even consider this.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

09-03-2009, 09:30 AM

I seriously hope we do not trade Harris for Marshall. Would it not put us in a much bigger financial hole? Marshall and Washington would need new contracts. Both will be higher than Harris' up-coming one. LW needs to get signed. Defense and running game can win championships. We aren't going to win it all this season with a rookie QB, why jump to get a risky guy like Marshall? I am very conservative and think defense first, so I'm biased, but troubled players worry me, and Marshall is trouble.

thetedginnshow

09-04-2009, 12:22 AM

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8125c7b8/Jets-38-Eagles-27

If anyone wants to see our highlights. God Sanchez makes it look so good. I love that Rhodes stood up for Scott there too. Our D should be one cohesive unit... so long as we don't do any trades.

Hurricanes25

09-04-2009, 01:41 AM

It was nice to see Gholston put some pressure on the QB and pick up a sack. He looks like he is getting better on every play. We need a new punter. Hodges can only kick the ball 35 yards and puts our defense in tough situations sometimes. Oh yea, how could I forget Sanchez....He was unbelieveable tonight. His accuarcy is amazing. Now Im just waiting for Saturday to see the 53 man roster.

JETS5128

09-04-2009, 01:43 AM

I know it's pre-season, but how can anyone not be impressed with Sanchez so far?

Hurricanes25

09-04-2009, 01:50 AM

I know it's pre-season, but how can anyone not be impressed with Sanchez so far?

I think everone has to be impressed with Sanchez. He has shown that he can make all the throws and put the ball in a tight window. I'll be the first one to admit that I was not high on Sanchez during the draft process but now Im on the "bandwagon". It should be an exciting year.

jmess15

09-04-2009, 07:19 AM

[QUOTE= I'll be the first one to admt that I wa not high on Sanchez during the draft process but now Im on the "bandwagon". It should be an exciting year.[/QUOTE]

Wow..the word bandwagon on a Jets board...it makes me all misty eyed. Dare we dream?

Crickett

09-04-2009, 11:52 AM

I know it's pre-season, but how can anyone not be impressed with Sanchez so far?

Even I'm impressed with Sanchez and I really REALLY didn't want the Jets to draft him. :cool:

derza222

09-04-2009, 01:53 PM

Even I'm impressed with Sanchez and I really REALLY didn't want the Jets to draft him. :cool:

Ditto that, although what we had to give up to move up to land him made it seem a little better and the more I read about him the more positive it got. Clearly my draft desires seem a little off right now since I didn't want Sanchez at all and loved Gholston. Hopefully I was wrong about pick #5 in '09 and end up being right about pick #6 in '08....eventually.

Hurricanes25

09-04-2009, 02:15 PM

The Jets cut WR Marcus Henry and TE's Kevin Brock and Jack Simmons. I guess Hartsock and Brown are our backups at TE. Im not suprised about Henry. He has done nothing this pre season.

msolimani

09-04-2009, 08:52 PM

Wow..the word bandwagon on a Jets board...it makes me all misty eyed. Dare we dream?

hahaha....yeah i didnt think I'd see that until at least late november of '09

thetedginnshow

09-05-2009, 12:54 PM

http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/blogs/2009/09/john-madden-karaoke-with-the-new-york-jets/

Hurricanes25

09-05-2009, 02:27 PM

Danny Woodhead made the team!!!!!!!!!!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/05/solid-woodhead-makes-it-with-jets/

Hurricanes25

09-05-2009, 03:39 PM

All of the Jets cuts:
TE's Kareem Brown, Jack Simmons, Kevin Brock
RB/FB's Anthony Kimble, Brock Christopher, Jehuu Caulcrick
WR's Britt Davis, Marcus Henry,
OL Stanley Daniels, Nevin McCaskill, Ryan McKee, Michael Parenton
DL Zach Potter, Matt Kroul, Ty Steinkuhler
LB Kenwin Cummings
CB Rashard Barksdale
S Emmanuel Cook
K Parker Douglas

derza222

09-06-2009, 02:25 PM

We traded an undisclosed draft pick for Kevin O'Connell, who the Pats just cut. Lions had first waiver claim and got him and then traded him to us. Pretty weird if you ask me, unless we're trading another one of our QB's for something more than we traded to get O'Connell I'm going to be pretty unhappy about the trade. Just makes no sense right now, hopefully things become clearer soon...

thetedginnshow

09-06-2009, 05:22 PM

I like it, even if just to be dicks to the Pats. I like what he has to offer though. Maybe we can trade Clemens for a third or fourth or something.

thetedginnshow

09-06-2009, 06:11 PM

Whoo. We got Trapasso. It's just such a sexier punter name than Reggie Hodges. He sounded like a CAP.

Surprised Woodhead is gone. I wonder why. Maybe they have him locked up for the practice squad, but seems kind of risky.

And I heard the O'Connell thing is to maybe trade him to the Broncos. But we'll see. Maybe we can do him straight up for Marshall. lol

derza222

09-06-2009, 08:17 PM

Honestly it's been a really weird day with some of the guys we picked up and released and the trade, I just hope everything turns out well.

Hurricanes25

09-06-2009, 11:22 PM

Honestly it's been a really weird day with some of the guys we picked up and released and the trade, I just hope everything turns out well.

Agreed. We made a lot of strange moves today. The only one that Im really happy about is Trapasso. Hodges sucks. I hope we dont stick with 4 QB's because that is pretty much a waste.

derza222

09-07-2009, 12:03 AM

Agreed. We made a lot of strange moves today. The only one that Im really happy about is Trapasso. Hodges sucks. I hope we dont stick with 4 QB's because that is pretty much a waste.

Unfortunately Tannenbaum just said the team is going to keep 4 quarterbacks. Guess it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but seems like that's what's going to happen. Maybe they try to sneak somebody onto IR.

Crickett

09-07-2009, 01:52 AM

Unfortunately Tannenbaum just said the team is going to keep 4 quarterbacks. Guess it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but seems like that's what's going to happen. Maybe they try to sneak somebody onto IR.

Why would the Jets need four quarterbacks? Is he going to host gameday parties or something? Sanchez looks like he's going to be a good one, even early on and Clemens is a decent backup.

thetedginnshow

09-07-2009, 04:21 AM

I think he's just trying to not put them in a disadvantageous position. I think they have every intention of trading one of them, but obviously if you say you are people will be less willing to give fair market value. Or at least I hope that's the case.

derza222

09-07-2009, 02:01 PM

Why would the Jets need four quarterbacks? Is he going to host gameday parties or something? Sanchez looks like he's going to be a good one, even early on and Clemens is a decent backup.

Apparently the deal is that they're going to try and develop them and flip somebody out for a pick before the 2010 draft. Matt Schaub effect or something...we'll see how it goes. Don't think we're going to get much for any of them unless they get play time this year (and they'd better not) or they dominate preseason in coming years...but that means nothing for them this coming offseason. It's really a weird move, hopefully O'Connell turns into something and this isn't just a bonehead move.

We also cut Trapasso and signed ANOTHER punter, Steve Weatherford. Hopefully this ends the merry go round at punter.

Finally, Kerry Rhodes is tweeting all over the place about a big move to be announced tomorrow...so we'll see. Cimini says we're exploring multiple player acquisition possibilities but Brandon Marshall is not one of them. I hope Braylon Edwards isn't one of them either unless we get a real bargain basement price, he just doesn't seem committed to football. The one thing I know I'd be down for, and it's not an acquisition, is a Leon Washington extension. I think he's an important cog in this offense long-term.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

09-07-2009, 06:08 PM

I hope the Kerry Rhodes tweet is regarding Leon

thetedginnshow

09-07-2009, 08:49 PM

I hope the Kerry Rhodes tweet is regarding Leon

Me too. That or we traded for Calvin Johnson.

thetedginnshow

09-07-2009, 11:12 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview09/team?team=nyj

Bulletin board!

msolimani

09-08-2009, 10:51 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/08/kerry-rhodes-fails-to-deliver/

derza222

09-09-2009, 03:48 PM

Looks like we extended DeVito! My favorite move in the last few days, he's a try hard guy and an ideal backup, definitely can fill in well as a starter and I think that he may get some significant play time as the year rolls on. Seems like the franchise has high hopes for him and hopefully he can match those.

Also we got to sign Woodhead to the PS which is cool, would be nice for him to get some roster time as the season goes on.

thetedginnshow

09-12-2009, 12:59 AM

So who's amped up about the game? Unfortunately I get the Broncos game instead over here, but I should be able to catch it online.

derza222

09-12-2009, 07:48 PM

So who's amped up about the game? Unfortunately I get the Broncos game instead over here, but I should be able to catch it online.

I'm absolutely amped. I've got the Eagles here so I'm hoping to catch something online or hit up a sports bar in the area. Should be a pretty good game, or at least I hope it will be.

derza222

09-13-2009, 03:08 PM

Not a bad way to start the year!!!

JETS5128

09-13-2009, 03:18 PM

I was very impressed with this team today.
The D was absolutely relentless and Sanchez looked incredible

thetedginnshow

09-13-2009, 04:17 PM

yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah

thetedginnshow

09-13-2009, 07:12 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's Tim Graham

Matt Lyon of the ESPN Stats & Information squad charted every play from the New York Jets' 24-7 victory over the Houston Texans and came up with some interesting nuggets about Mark Sanchez's NFL debut.

How composed was Sanchez? To look at his third-down numbers, you would think he was Joe Montana.

On third downs, Sanchez completed 12 of 15 passes for 191 yards, a touchdown and a 141.0 passer rating.

On every other down, he was a combined 6 of 16 for 81 yards, one interception and a 28.4 passer rating

Here's another eye-opener: When Sanchez faced five or more defensive backs, he completed 10 of 14 passes for 134 yards and a touchdown.

Sanchez was unsuccessful when trying to throw to the left side of the field. He was 6 of 16 for 90 yards and threw his interception outside the numbers. When Sanchez went over the middle or to his right, he completed 12 of 15 passes for 182 yards and his touchdown to Chansi Stuckey.

That stat is amazing. Since most of his passing yards came on third down too, I'm guessing the Jets ran the ball on those downs most of the time? As for the not being able to be as effective on the left side of the field, that's just being a right-handed rookie QB. It's just generally harder to make throws to that side. He'll get it in time.

Hurricanes25

09-13-2009, 07:27 PM

Crickett

09-13-2009, 07:47 PM

Amazing game today. Our defense is full of awsomeness. Im ready to argue that Revis is the best corner in the league. He absolutely shut down Andre Johnson. I know it's only 1 game but we might be better than everyone thinks.

I got into an argument during the offseason when I said that Revis was arguably the best corner in the league and everybody else thought it was Scrabble.

My folks had a nice laugh today at the idea of me getting a Sanchez jersey given how opposed i was to the Jets drafting him. But no matter what, the next Jets jersey I get will have the name Revis on the back.

Hurricanes25

09-13-2009, 07:49 PM

I got into an argument during the offseason when I said that Revis was arguably the best corner in the league and everybody else thought it was Scrabble.

My folks had a nice laugh today at the idea of me getting a Sanchez jersey given how opposed i was to the Jets drafting him. But no matter what, the next Jets jersey I get will have the name Revis on the back.

Same here. When we drafted Sanchez I walked around miserable for 2 weeks and now Im saying that I love him so Im taking a lot of heat over here but its all good.

thetedginnshow

09-13-2009, 08:14 PM

I got into an argument during the offseason when I said that Revis was arguably the best corner in the league and everybody else thought it was Scrabble.

My folks had a nice laugh today at the idea of me getting a Sanchez jersey given how opposed i was to the Jets drafting him. But no matter what, the next Jets jersey I get will have the name Revis on the back.

You're getting/have a Sanchez jersey? I guess I'll enjoy this while we have him... :(

EDIT: Oh. I misread that. Still sad though. We should all get Toon jerseys, make a blog site, and PROSPER!

thetedginnshow

09-14-2009, 01:14 AM

So not sure how their game turns out but I assume that the Pats will rape the Bills... but, they're going to have a short week, that O-Line looks kind of sketchy, the game's going to be at home and the young players usually play better at home, and of course it's a big rival. I'm not saying anything, but I'm just sayin'.

jmess15

09-14-2009, 06:46 AM

That stat is amazing. Since most of his passing yards came on third down too, I'm guessing the Jets ran the ball on those downs most of the time? As for the not being able to be as effective on the left side of the field, that's just being a right-handed rookie QB. It's just generally harder to make throws to that side. He'll get it in time.

I can't decide what I am more impressed with, Sanchez or the 'D'.

comahan

09-14-2009, 06:52 AM

Texans fan here just wanting to congratulate you folks on having a ******* fantastic defense. Harris is a stud, Scott was a great pickup, Jenkins is a monster, and Revis did a very good job silencing one of the best WRs in the league (although, I think the constant great pass rush had more to do with that then Revis - not saying that Revis isnt great though)

On Sanchez, Id like to think that hes the real deal. He looked tremendous. But with the Texans D you never know. The constant 3rd down conversions made this one of the more frustrating games Ive ever watched. Hopefully Sanchez is just the golden boy, and we dont still suck.

Anyway, point is, congrats on the win and the apparent good team. Rex Ryan is the man.

jmess15

09-14-2009, 07:28 AM

vikes_28

09-14-2009, 12:28 PM

Mark Sanchez is the real deal. Congrats on your win! :D

AlexDown

09-14-2009, 02:02 PM

Great win to start the season. I actually didn't get to the see the game, but ddi get to see the highlights. From what I heard, the outcome was never really in question.

Good to see Sanchez had a good start, and that our defense was amazing. I was worried about the absence of some players, including Pace, but it seems we did pretty well.

Saw this in another thread and had to post it here...

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii219/losloseeboy/jetex.gif

Great start to the season!

Hurricanes25

09-14-2009, 02:48 PM

derza222

09-14-2009, 05:06 PM

Kris Jenkins played like a monster yesterday. He dominated Chris Myers all day and did that^ a couple of times. Jenkins looks as good as ever.

The defense looked completely different than it did during the preseason, and while I think some of it has to do with the coaching staff trying out a few things in the preseason that they didn't trust to work during the regular season having big 77 in the middle makes a HUGE difference.

Crickett

09-14-2009, 05:24 PM

Kris Jenkins. Have the Jets ever made better use of a third and a fifth round draft pick?

My only regret regarding that move was that they didn't make two of them and get Rogers or Stroud too.

derza222

09-14-2009, 06:21 PM

Kris Jenkins. Have the Jets ever made better use of a third and a fifth round draft pick?

My only regret regarding that move was that they didn't make two of them and get Rogers or Stroud too.

I think (hope?) those in power with the organization go after a big DL in the draft this year. In this scheme if you have a big enough guy who is a good athlete they could not only spell Jenkins but also move around and fit both of them on the defensive line at once. Since it should be a need anyway I think it could get addressed early. How great would it be to watch our defensive front then?

sbh15

09-15-2009, 06:57 PM

Can we just make a decree in general that all must call the Jets "Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch"?

thetedginnshow

09-15-2009, 08:16 PM

HOUSTON — The seeds for the Jets’ season-opening trouncing of the Houston Texans were planted Saturday night at the team hotel. There, on the eve of his first game as a head coach, Rex Ryan delivered a speech his players described as fiery and passionate.

When Ryan finished, fullback Tony Richardson said, every person in the room, including General Manager Mike Tannenbaum, wanted to grab shoulder pads and head straight for Reliant Stadium. Ryan had given the Jets more than a blueprint with his speech. He had delivered genuine, powerful inspiration.

It showed Sunday against the favored Houston Texans, the hometown team the Jets defeated, 24-7, behind a destructive defense and in front of 70,118 fans. Ryan and the rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez secured their first N.F.L. victory together. Ryan did not coach like a rookie; Sanchez did not play like one.

“We needed to call the N.F.L.P.A. and put him on the banned substances list,” nose tackle Kris Jenkins said, referring to the players union. “Because whatever he said was performance enhancing.”

Cornerback Darrelle Revis watched the way Ryan’s eyes watered with emotion as he spoke, noting how much this meant to him. Linebacker Bart Scott, who followed Ryan north from Baltimore in the off-season, watched the way the body language of his teammates changed when they were infused with Ryan’s passion.

Jenkins said the Jets had taken note of the experts’ predictions for their season. With a rookie coach, a new defensive system and an untested quarterback, few thought the Jets would be contenders. Fewer still picked them to win in Houston. Jenkins called that chatter a slap in the face.

In his speech, Ryan reminded his players that he believed in them, reminded them to play the physical brand of football he installed and told them they would put the Texans “to sleep” by the end of the fourth quarter.

“You can tell the passion is genuine, and it’s authentic,” Scott said. “Not some premade, win-one-for-the-Gipper garbage. Just straight to the point. It’s coming from his heart.”

It was yet another example of how Ryan has changed the Jets, a team that missed the playoffs because of losses in four of the final five games last season, through words both confident and boastful.

This started with his first news conference as the coach in January, when Ryan intimated the Jets would meet the president after winning the Super Bowl in the next few years. It continued through the off-season, as Ryan tweaked his coaching counterparts, playfully challenged a division linebacker to a fight and ranked what seemed like every position on his team among the best in the N.F.L.

All the boasting made the Jets want to prove their coach correct. It seemed to seep into their thought process, driving everything they did. Over eight months, Ryan appeared to change their attitude with his attitude, one that left Scott saying that Ryan would be his first choice as a partner for an alley brawl.

“He talks trash,” Jenkins said. “And he gives us the opportunity to back it up.”

In his speech, Ryan told the Jets they had found their quarterback in Sanchez. Sure, he was the first rookie to start for the franchise since 1977, and the first to start on opening day since 1960. But when Richardson watched Sanchez chew out a teammate last week for lining up incorrectly, he knew Sanchez was ready.

Sanchez displayed poise rarely seen from rookie quarterbacks, completing 18 of 31 passes for 272 yards and a touchdown with one interception against the Texans. He connected with receiver Chansi Stuckey for a 30-yard score that produced a 10-0 lead, but more important, he repeatedly scrambled away from pressure, converting 10 of 18 third downs to extend drives.

Jenkins described Sanchez as locked in. Ryan reminded reporters afterward that Sanchez had played the way he had expected, even back when the Jets traded up to select him fifth over all in April’s draft.

“His performance is going to turn some heads across the league,” tight end Dustin Keller said. “That’s something the organization saw in him well before we as a team saw it. Now, everybody has.”

In his speech, Ryan told his defense it would dominate in the physical, tough, yield-absolutely-nothing style he preaches.

That defense recorded two turnovers and two sacks and shut out the Texans, whose only score came when Sanchez’s one interception was fumbled and picked up by Dominique Barber, who rumbled 48 yards into the end zone to cut the lead to 17-7 in the fourth quarter.

The Jets’ defense bottled up running back Steve Slaton, who averaged 1.9 yards on nine carries. It harassed quarterback Matt Schaub into a quarterback rating of 55.9. Even the All-Pro receiver Andre Johnson was held to four catches for 35 yards by Revis, who responded in typical Ryan fashion afterward. “I know how good I am,” Revis said.

In Saturday’s speech, Ryan promised the Jets would run the ball. After a slow start, Thomas Jones had two long gains en route to 107 rushing yards and 2 touchdowns, the barrage coming in the second half. In his speech, Ryan said the Jets would make up for the absence of the suspended defensive starters Shaun Ellis and Calvin Pace. With Vernon Gholston (three tackles) and Mike DeVito (fumble recovery), among others, they did that, too.

Afterward, Ryan presented the game ball to the team owner, Woody Johnson. Outside the locker room, Joe Namath sang the praises of Sanchez and the defense. Inside, Jenkins told reporters the Jets believed this season would be remembered as a special one. “Not bad for a couple of rookies,” Ryan said. “We’ve been saying it all along. It’s just that nobody wanted to listen.”

Except the Jets. On Saturday night, they heard Ryan, and on Sunday, they responded.

9rFx6OFooCs

thetedginnshow

09-17-2009, 10:59 AM

The New York Jets' defenders are talking big for their Week 2 matchup against the New England Patriots. Earlier this week, defensive tackle Kris Jenkins called this game the Jets' "Super Bowl" and on Wednesday, free safety Kerry Rhodes said he wanted to "embarrass" the Patriots.

The Patriots (1-0) have owned the Jets (1-0) since Bill Belichick became their coach in 2000, going 13-6, including one playoff game, against New York. Tom Brady and Co. have won the past eight games played against the Jets at the Meadowlands.

Rhodes wants to change that -- and make a statement doing it.

"You go out from the first quarter on, from the first play on, and try to embarrass them," Rhodes said, according to the New York Daily News. "Not just go out there and try to win, try to embarrass them. Try to make them feel bad when they leave here. We don't want to just beat them. We want to send a message to them, 'We're not backing down from you and we expect to win this game, and it's not going to be luck, it's not going to be a mistake.' "

Jets coach Rex Ryan, the former Baltimore defensive coordinator, brought the attacking Ravens defense and its propensity for trash-talking to New York. The Jets surprised the Houston Texans in Week 1, romping to a 24-7 victory. The Jets' defense didn't allow a point, as Houston's lone score came on a defensive touchdown.

Brady, returning from a knee injury that cost him almost the entire 2008 season, was hit only six times by the Buffalo Bills in Week 1's comeback victory. Rhodes said Brady will be hit far more often by the Jets' defense, which hit Texans quarterback Matt Schaub eight times in Week 1.

"We will hit him more than six times. I promise you that," Rhodes said, according to the Daily News.

Rhodes insisted the Jets "won't play dirty" but that Brady will be vulnerable.

"I'm sure if somebody is around his leg, or he feels pressure below, he's not going to step into his throw," Rhodes said, according to the Daily News.

"Any quarterback can be rattled," Rhodes said, according to the newspaper. "He's one of the best, don't get me wrong. That's evident. Any quarterback, Peyton Manning, even if you get in his face, if you rattle the quarterback, you get pressure on the quarterback, any quarterback it is, he's not going to be the same. Nobody. That's not to say he's not going to come back and make a play after."

Brady, in remarks to reporters on Wednesday, said he wasn't rattled by the Jets' tough talk and that in the end, "talk is cheap."

"I think we follow the lead of our head coach," Brady said. "I think because we feel a certain way, we don't necessarily need to tell everybody about it. I mean, we're confident. We have as much confidence as most teams in the league.

"No matter what you say on a Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday, it doesn't matter much. I think our execution is what's most important and that's what we choose to focus on."

awwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah

AlexDown

09-17-2009, 11:09 AM

I hate playing the Patriots....so much.....

I think I almost died watching the last game the these two teams played together.

The Great Jonathan Vilma

09-18-2009, 08:41 PM

I'm driving 30 minutes across the city to see this game. Apparently my cable station feels the Bengal vs GB game is more entertaining and worth another 2 channels, but nothing for the Jets vs Patriots. Bunch of you know what...

derza222

09-20-2009, 12:06 AM

Hurricanes25

09-20-2009, 12:11 AM

How does everybody feel about tomorrow's game? I'm pretty excited about it, but I don't exactly have the best feeling. Hopefully that's wrong, I'd love to see the team play a hell of a game and really make a statement, particularly the D and Sanchez playing against a really good offense and a Pats D that usually gives rookie QB's fits.

The Pats defense is very questionable. With Mayo out, there linebacking group is very pedestrian. If we can contain Wilfork and not let Merriweather get any big hits we may have a good day on offense. Stopping Tom Brady is a whole nother story. We have a shot to win but it's going to be tough.

thetedginnshow

09-20-2009, 12:41 AM

How does everybody feel about tomorrow's game? I'm pretty excited about it, but I don't exactly have the best feeling. Hopefully that's wrong, I'd love to see the team play a hell of a game and really make a statement, particularly the D and Sanchez playing against a really good offense and a Pats D that usually gives rookie QB's fits.

It seems like there's no way we can win but for some reason I think it's ours.

I'm very excited regardless. Hopefully I can find somewhere online to check the game out.

thetedginnshow

09-20-2009, 03:12 PM

heeeeeeell yeah baby JETS!

JETS5128

09-20-2009, 03:54 PM

**** yes, what a game

Hurricanes25

09-21-2009, 12:18 PM

Huge win over the Pats. Our defense stepped up big time and won us the game. Sanchez did jut enough but the defense gets credit for the win. We were able to put some pressure on Brady but I would have liked to hit him a little bit more. Revis again comes up big with shutting down Randy Moss. At least we backed up our talk.

derza222

09-23-2009, 10:19 PM

Big game this weekend, should be a really tough matchup against a team that came in with high expectations and started 0-2 and is desperate for a win. Will be interesting to see if they can match the intensity of the Titans, I've got faith that coach will have the men on the team ready to go.

Think these next three weeks will say a lot about this team. If we go 3-2 that's a solid start to the year, 4-1 is fantastic, and a 5-0 start would be absolutely unbelievable. Especially given some people predicted the team would start the year 0-5.

EDIT: Pretty cool quote from coach Ryan that I think is really accurate. Hope he's right in the second half:

“If we give anything but our best, whether it’s preparation or the intensity and passion that we play with …then this football team will beat us, there’s no question about that. But that’s not going to happen, we’ll give it everything we’ve got."

From a report by Scott Hanson on nfl.com

wordofi

09-25-2009, 11:54 PM

Who thinks Revis is a top 3 corner in the NFL? He's shut down Andre Johnson and Rany Moss in back-to-back weeks.

derza222

09-26-2009, 01:06 AM

Who thinks Revis is a top 3 corner in the NFL? He's shut down Andre Johnson and Rany Moss in back-to-back weeks.

I think he's absolutely up there and if he's not top 3 he's easily very close. I'd say he's top 3 though, top 2 even though I'm obviously biased being a Jets fan. He's done a great job against some of the better WR's in the game, hopefully he can sustain his play. Him being able to really man up on the other team's #1 has been so huge for this defense. The great thing about Revis is he's also a great tackler, really a pretty complete corner. He's a cornerstone of the defense, hopefully Mr. T is working something out to keep him in green for a long, long time.

jmess15

09-26-2009, 09:58 AM

The great thing about Revis is he's also a great tackler, really a pretty complete corner. He's a cornerstone of the defense, hopefully Mr. T is working something out to keep him in green for a long, long time.

Excellent point. He is a complete corner in every sense of the word. Just goes to show you what most of us know. When the Jets drafted in 07 it wasn't a sexy pick. A lot of us wanted guys like Quinn, Dwayne Bowe and Greg Olsen, but it turns out they got it right all along. Him and Harris was a huge day.

Hurricanes25

09-26-2009, 11:47 AM

Who thinks Revis is a top 3 corner in the NFL? He's shut down Andre Johnson and Rany Moss in back-to-back weeks.

There is no doubt that he is a top 3 corner. You can make the arguement that he is the best in the league. Derza and jmess are 100% right about Revis. He is one of the best tackling corners I have ever seen.

thetedginnshow

09-27-2009, 08:07 AM

Excellent point. He is a complete corner in every sense of the word. Just goes to show you what most of us know. When the Jets drafted in 07 it wasn't a sexy pick. A lot of us wanted guys like Quinn, Dwayne Bowe and Greg Olsen, but it turns out they got it right all along. Him and Harris was a huge day.

Really? I thought most people wanted Revis.

Crickett

09-27-2009, 11:02 AM

Really? I thought most people wanted Revis.

I wanted Leon Hall. And I was wrong. But yeah, I remember most wanted CB's too.

Hurricanes25

09-27-2009, 11:05 AM

I wanted Leon Hall. And I was wrong. But yeah, I remember most wanted CB's too.

I guess I was with you. I wanted Hall too but looks like we made the right choice.

Hurricanes25

09-27-2009, 11:42 AM

derza222

09-27-2009, 11:53 AM

Its going to be a tough game today against the Titans. They know they cant fall to 0-3 so they will be ready to play. I dont think Rex will have a problem matching their intensity. My prediction- Jets 20 Titans 10

It should be a hell of a game, I expect a lot from the Titans today. I would not be surprised at all with a loss. A win tells us a lot about the coaching and ability to motivate that Ryan brings to the table, because I think this is going to be an incredibly tough game. It was probably pretty easy for the players to get amped for the opening game and a game against the Pats, but lets see if they can bring their A game against a desperate Titans team while presumably riding high after starting 2-0. Should be interesting.

Hurricanes25

09-27-2009, 11:55 AM

Bad News- We are wearing the throwback Titan jerseys aka the ugliest jerseys in the league.

derza222

09-27-2009, 12:14 PM

Bad News- We are wearing the throwback Titan jerseys aka the ugliest jerseys in the league.

I was hoping they were going to be the whites, those I like a lot better than the blues though I'd still prefer 80's greens. GREAT run by Sanchez, and I think we've got the ball back!!!!

thetedginnshow

09-27-2009, 12:18 PM

I might be the only person that likes these jerseys. I think we look like gods. Like TITANS. And they look even better in gloomy weather.

AND ANOTHER TOUCHDOWN YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

derza222

09-27-2009, 12:52 PM

I might be the only person that likes these jerseys. I think we look like gods. Like TITANS. And they look even better in gloomy weather.

AND ANOTHER TOUCHDOWN YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

By themselves the jerseys would be alright, I'd rather look like Jets though...

getwellchad

09-27-2009, 03:09 PM

Oh what a sweet, sweet victory.

thetedginnshow

09-27-2009, 03:10 PM

We're living the good life. :D

Crickett

09-27-2009, 03:12 PM

Man I love Rex Ryan's playcalling. 3rd and 8, up by a touchdown with the game on the line, what defensive call does Rex make? BLITZ EVERYONE!!!!!!!!! :D

TitanHope

09-27-2009, 03:13 PM

Congrats on the win guys. Sanchez looks like an absolute stud.

Also, please, for the love of little baby Jesus in a tuxedo shirt, do not let Ryan Mouton leave the stadium alive... :mad:

derza222

09-27-2009, 03:15 PM

We're living the good life. :D

Pretty awesome :D Definitely did not expect to get this W, but I'm glad we did. Undefeated to this point!!! Makes some preseason article I read with the prediction that we'd start 0-5 seem pretty funny.

Man I love Rex Ryan's playcalling. 3rd and 8, up by a touchdown with the game on the line, what defensive call does Rex make? BLITZ EVERYONE!!!!!!!!! :D

After the days of Paul Hackett and Mangini, this is freakin awesome.

Congrats on the win guys. Sanchez looks like an absolute stud.

Also, please, for the love of little baby Jesus in a tuxedo shirt, do not let Ryan Mouton leave the stadium alive... :mad:

Thanks, best of luck the rest of the season. I won't be surprised at all to see you guys have a strong end to the season, if a few mistakes get fixed that's a dangerous team down in Tennessee.

msolimani

09-27-2009, 03:31 PM

First 3-0 start since '04!!! Saints will be tough down in the Bayou next week.

TitanHope

09-27-2009, 03:32 PM

Thanks, best of luck the rest of the season. I won't be surprised at all to see you guys have a strong end to the season, if a few mistakes get fixed that's a dangerous team down in Tennessee.

Thank ya kindly. Thankfully, the Titans last 8-games are much easier than their first 8. Knew it was gonna be a tough start with @Pitt, Hou, @NYJ, @Jax, Ind, @NE, but this is just awful.

I'm serious about Mouton though. All my finest meats and cheeses to the Jets fan who jumps him. ;)

Good luck the rest of the way to ya'll, especially against the AFC South! :D

AlexDown

09-28-2009, 11:33 AM

Really, really, really great start to the season. This week's win was big considering the Jets play away at NO next week. Defense still looks great, regardless of giving up those two TDs.

Thoughts on Gholston????

katnip

09-28-2009, 12:55 PM

Thoughts on Gholston????

Didn't really notice him during yesterday's game.

Crickett

09-28-2009, 01:16 PM

Thoughts on Gholston????

A non factor and a bust.

if Rex Ryan can't make something out of Gholston, who was supposed to be a pass rushing specialist, with his blitz first ask questions later defense, nobody can.

katnip

09-28-2009, 01:19 PM

A non factor and a bust.

if Rex Ryan can't make something out of Gholston, who was supposed to be a pass rushing specialist, with his blitz first ask questions later defense, nobody can.

Basically my thoughts on Gholston too

jmess15

09-28-2009, 01:50 PM

A non factor and a bust.

He did make a potential TD saving tackle on Johnson where he tracked him down from behind I believe, but other than that he was a non factor.

Hurricanes25

09-28-2009, 03:20 PM

He did make a potential TD saving tackle on Johnson where he tracked him down from behind I believe, but other than that he was a non factor.

That was the one time I actually noticed him do something positive. I think his biggest problem is a lack of effort. I seen too many times yesterday where he would just run into the tackle and not attempt to break off the block. His "motor" is awful. Im disappointed in him.

derza222

09-28-2009, 09:27 PM

He did have a couple stops for short gains as well on Johnson runs. He's at least in the game and a part of a solid defense. I'm going to give him till year 3 before passing judgement because that's really how long it took him at OSU. Takes some guys longer than others...I don't expect that will be the case but I at least hope so.

Another big game this week, heading to the dome, playing the undefeated Saints. How do you guys feel about this one?

JETS5128

09-28-2009, 10:26 PM

Crickett

09-28-2009, 10:30 PM

I actually like our chances against New Orleans more than i did against Tennessee. As long as we don't turn the ball over or fall behind early, we should be able to control the game and wear down their D.

I don't. The Saints offense is clicking on all cylinders and unlike Tennessee or New England w/o Wes Welker, Drew Brees has a plethora of receiving targets to throw to. Even if Darrelle Revis shuts down Marques Colston, Brees could throw up 300 yards and 4 TD's on the Jets throwing to other targets such as Shockey, Bush, Henderson, Moore and Meachem.

This is the one game so far that I really don't like the Jets chances. Especially if Lito and Strickland are out again.

Flyboy

09-28-2009, 10:43 PM

I don't. The Saints offense is clicking on all cylinders and unlike Tennessee or New England w/o Wes Welker, Drew Brees has a plethora of receiving targets to throw to. Even if Darrelle Revis shuts down Marques Colston, Brees could throw up 300 yards and 4 TD's on the Jets throwing to other targets such as Shockey, Bush, Henderson, Moore and Meachem.

This is the one game so far that I really don't like the Jets chances. Especially if Lito and Strickland are out again.

Yeah, it's going to be a VERY good game I think. Defenses like the one Rex Ryan runs has usually given Brees' fits in the past in his stint here (particularly the game against the Ravens in '06 immediately comes to mind) and in the past Sean Payton has been too stubborn to try to run the ball when the pass isn't working. That isn't the case this year and it'll be a test to see if the Jets can stop the running game and passing attack. The Titans are pretty one-dimensional if you ask me.. you take away Chris Johnson (easier said than done) and force Kerry Collins then you have a good chance of beating them.

It's harder to stop multiple options like Colston, Henderson, Moore (who should be back this week), Meachem, Bush, Shockey, etc.

I can't wait for this one.