New York Jets Discussion

[josh07039]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cotchery is involved in a trade for Turner. Rivers played with Cotchery in college so the Chargers may try and reunite them.

If we get rid of Cotchery, I will be so goddamn pissed off. He's one of my favorite players, and he's *young* and *talented*... which is what a rebuilding team needs.I know, ive loved Cotchery since he was drafted, I dont think we are gonna make a trade for turner at all, and if we do, i dont think we will get rid of cotchery. About the reuniting thing, that was why i was hoping we would go for rivers last year.

[shavedaeyebrow2]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cotchery is involved in a trade for Turner. Rivers played with Cotchery in college so the Chargers may try and reunite them.

If we get rid of Cotchery, I will be so goddamn pissed off. He's one of my favorite players, and he's *young* and *talented*... which is what a rebuilding team needs.

Same, he is probably my favorite player on the team. I would love to have turner, but I would not want to trade Cotchery.

[throwback54milkman]

no way we trade our best receiver (yeah, he is).

Why not trade our first rounder for Turner, there's no-one that's a great fit for us at our pick anyways. They can have Mccariens too if they want.

[Zim3031]

no way we trade our best receiver (yeah, he is).

Why not trade our first rounder for Turner, there's no-one that's a great fit for us at our pick anyways. They can have Mccariens too if they want.

Trading a first round draft pick for a running back that has no starting experience and has gotten all of his stats spelling LT?

I'll pass. Although I'm all for getting rid of Mccantcatch

[throwback54milkman]

no way we trade our best receiver (yeah, he is).

Why not trade our first rounder for Turner, there's no-one that's a great fit for us at our pick anyways. They can have Mccariens too if they want.

Trading a first round draft pick for a running back that has no starting experience and has gotten all of his stats spelling LT?

I'll pass. Although I'm all for getting rid of Mccantcatch

I'd do it, he's better than Lynch and Lynch is who we would take at our pick most likely- Burner is amazing every time he touches the ball. Seriously, who would you rather take at the 24th pick? Okoye isnt a 3-4 NT (if he falls to us), and i think we can get a CB/RT/RG 2nd round.

[AlexDown]

Why not trade our first rounder for Turner, there's no-one that's a great fit for us at our pick anyways.

Recent players traded to get first rounders in our range.

Branch
Abe
Moss

Trading for Turner with our first pick is way way way beyond a bad idea, especially considering there is a high chance we go D for our first round pick.

[throwback54milkman]

Why not trade our first rounder for Turner, there's no-one that's a great fit for us at our pick anyways.

Recent players traded to get first rounders in our range.

Branch
Abe
Moss

Trading for Turner with our first pick is way way way beyond a bad idea, especially considering there is a high chance we go D for our first round pick.

You can add Doug Jolley to that list haha. There are no defensive players worth taking at that spot though! Turner is worth it.

[derza222]

Why not trade our first rounder for Turner, there's no-one that's a great fit for us at our pick anyways.

Recent players traded to get first rounders in our range.

Branch
Abe
Moss

Trading for Turner with our first pick is way way way beyond a bad idea, especially considering there is a high chance we go D for our first round pick.

I agree completely. And everyone else is overrating Turner a ton. He does come in after LT has wore down defenses. And I am completely for getting rid of "Mccantcatch". But I really don't like the idea of getting Turner no matter how we swing it. And if we get rid of Cotchery I'd be unbelievably pissed, I just started believing in this organization hopefully they don't ruin that for me.

[throwback54milkman]

Why not trade our first rounder for Turner, there's no-one that's a great fit for us at our pick anyways.

Recent players traded to get first rounders in our range.

Branch
Abe
Moss

Trading for Turner with our first pick is way way way beyond a bad idea, especially considering there is a high chance we go D for our first round pick.

I agree completely. And everyone else is overrating Turner a ton. He does come in after LT has wore down defenses. And I am completely for getting rid of "Mccantcatch". But I really don't like the idea of getting Turner no matter how we swing it. And if we get rid of Cotchery I'd be unbelievably pissed, I just started believing in this organization hopefully they don't ruin that for me.

Turner was pretty amazing today, just the way he runs is awesome, speed and power. And let's face it, our offense and especially Pennington will NEVER succeed without a good running game. And without our offense succeeding we will never go anywhere b/c our defense isnt good enough. Tell me who we could get at 26th pick or w/e we have that would be better than Turner.

[JETS5128]

Why not trade our first rounder for Turner, there's no-one that's a great fit for us at our pick anyways.

Recent players traded to get first rounders in our range.

Branch
Abe
Moss

Trading for Turner with our first pick is way way way beyond a bad idea, especially considering there is a high chance we go D for our first round pick.

I agree completely. And everyone else is overrating Turner a ton. He does come in after LT has wore down defenses. And I am completely for getting rid of "Mccantcatch". But I really don't like the idea of getting Turner no matter how we swing it. And if we get rid of Cotchery I'd be unbelievably pissed, I just started believing in this organization hopefully they don't ruin that for me.

Turner was pretty amazing today, just the way he runs is awesome, speed and power. And let's face it, our offense and especially Pennington will NEVER succeed without a good running game. And without our offense succeeding we will never go anywhere b/c our defense isnt good enough. Tell me who we could get at 26th pick or w/e we have that would be better than Turner.

I agree with getting turner. But the only thing that would piss me off is if we traded our 1st then blalock or someon fell to that pick

[throwback54milkman]

hopefully we can keep Schottenheimer, cuz he'll know if Turner is an everydown back/if he is worth a first rounder.

[JETS5128]

****

Cardinals got Wisenhunt, that means schotty is more likely to go to Miami

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AkbYISUTOsw2_Z2bqMkmiRU5nYcB?slug=ap-cardinals-whisenhunt&prov=ap&type=lgns

[hcbrad08]

schotty prob wont get a head coaching job...hes toooooooooo young and has oly one year of coordinating and Miami is prob just f*cking with the jets to make them spend less time on the draft and more on coaching decisions....
-I've become cold to Michael Turner he really does come in after LT wears down a Dfense Leon can;'t doo that let's og draft and not give up anything.
-Juice1432:
you'd agree we need

-RB,DL,OL,WR...what else man?

Juice knows his sh!t just a little less than me but he's good to validate.

[throwback54milkman]

schotty prob wont get a head coaching job...hes toooooooooo young and has oly one year of coordinating and Miami is prob just f*cking with the jets to make them spend less time on the draft and more on coaching decisions....
-I've become cold to Michael Turner he really does come in after LT wears down a Dfense Leon can;'t doo that let's og draft and not give up anything.
-Juice1432:
you'd agree we need

-RB,DL,OL,WR...what else man?

Juice knows his sh!t just a little less than me but he's good to validate.

yeah i really don't think he'd be a good head coach, at least at this point in his career. Even still, it's funny that Mangini already has his assistants becoming head coaches, like Belichek.

[jetsfan3]

I don't like the Turner idea. I'd rather trade our first round pick for more picks and a few picks next year.

[nyjetsguy27]

hopefully we can keep Schottenheimer, cuz he'll know if Turner is an everydown back/if he is worth a first rounder.

thats a good point, if anyone knows about turner, its him. in newsday today they said that the 3 finalists are the georgia tech HC, jim mora jr, and schotty. hopefully they go with the big name and take mora, but you never know. as for turner, they most id be willing to give up for him is our #1 second rounder, i think our first rounder would be stupid

[frogstomp]

I'd be willing to give up our late second for Turner, but not much more. Everyone knows that every year there are a bunch of good backs. Running back is the easiest position to replace, and generally has the lowest learning curve.

[vilma]

im all for drafting Gary Russell in the 5th rd and hoping he turns into a very good pro back who compliemts Leon well. Minnesota backs have been very successful recentley and the 1 yr in which Russell got a full season of carries he avergaed over 6 yrds per carry. He also has good size (5-11, 220) and speed (4.45) (I got those measurments of another message board). Also, hopefully we can use McCariens as bait to get an extra 2nd rd pick or as part of a deal for Turner and with the extra pick acquired draft a guy like Meachem or Gonzalez to replace McCareines. It would also save us some cap space for the future.

[nyjetsfan15]

im all for drafting Gary Russell in the 5th rd and hoping he turns into a very good pro back who compliemts Leon well. Minnesota backs have been very successful recentley and the 1 yr in which Russell got a full season of carries he avergaed over 6 yrds per carry. He also has good size (5-11, 220) and speed (4.45) (I got those measurments of another message board). Also, hopefully we can use McCariens as bait to get an extra 2nd rd pick or as part of a deal for Turner and with the extra pick acquired draft a guy like Meachem or Gonzalez to replace McCareines. It would also save us some cap space for the future.

i second this and cotchery is too valuable to trade and turner is not worth a 1st round pick.

[FlutiesDropKick]

im all for drafting Gary Russell in the 5th rd and hoping he turns into a very good pro back who compliemts Leon well. Minnesota backs have been very successful recentley and the 1 yr in which Russell got a full season of carries he avergaed over 6 yrds per carry. He also has good size (5-11, 220) and speed (4.45) (I got those measurments of another message board). Also, hopefully we can use McCariens as bait to get an extra 2nd rd pick or as part of a deal for Turner and with the extra pick acquired draft a guy like Meachem or Gonzalez to replace McCareines. It would also save us some cap space for the future.

i doubt we can still get a 2nd for McCariens though i'd have no objections to trading him or getting Meachem or Gonzo

[vilma]

im all for drafting Gary Russell in the 5th rd and hoping he turns into a very good pro back who compliemts Leon well. Minnesota backs have been very successful recentley and the 1 yr in which Russell got a full season of carries he avergaed over 6 yrds per carry. He also has good size (5-11, 220) and speed (4.45) (I got those measurments of another message board). Also, hopefully we can use McCariens as bait to get an extra 2nd rd pick or as part of a deal for Turner and with the extra pick acquired draft a guy like Meachem or Gonzalez to replace McCareines. It would also save us some cap space for the future.

i doubt we can still get a 2nd for McCariens though i'd have no objections to trading him or getting Meachem or Gonzo

we might be able to get a late 2nd from a team like San Diego who has a terrible recieving courp and dosent have many other needs or Tampa Bay who has indys pick and could use some more talent at reciever but its not a big enough need to use their earlier 2nd.

[nyjetsguy27]

im all for drafting Gary Russell in the 5th rd and hoping he turns into a very good pro back who compliemts Leon well. Minnesota backs have been very successful recentley and the 1 yr in which Russell got a full season of carries he avergaed over 6 yrds per carry. He also has good size (5-11, 220) and speed (4.45) (I got those measurments of another message board). Also, hopefully we can use McCariens as bait to get an extra 2nd rd pick or as part of a deal for Turner and with the extra pick acquired draft a guy like Meachem or Gonzalez to replace McCareines. It would also save us some cap space for the future.

i doubt we can still get a 2nd for McCariens though i'd have no objections to trading him or getting Meachem or Gonzo

i agree. its not like other GMs are dumb, they know how bad mccareins actually is. i think a best case scenario for him would be a 3rd/4th rounder

['cuse-213]

i notice alot of you think coleman is still at the level he was his rookie season. how could you think that? hes dropped alot. saftey is somewhat of a need. if weddle is there in the 2nd, hes ours.

if we dont pick up one, eric smith will be starting.

[Scorch]

im all for drafting Gary Russell in the 5th rd and hoping he turns into a very good pro back who compliemts Leon well. Minnesota backs have been very successful recentley and the 1 yr in which Russell got a full season of carries he avergaed over 6 yrds per carry. He also has good size (5-11, 220) and speed (4.45) (I got those measurments of another message board). Also, hopefully we can use McCariens as bait to get an extra 2nd rd pick or as part of a deal for Turner and with the extra pick acquired draft a guy like Meachem or Gonzalez to replace McCareines. It would also save us some cap space for the future.

i doubt we can still get a 2nd for McCariens though i'd have no objections to trading him or getting Meachem or Gonzo

i agree. its not like other GMs are dumb, they know how bad mccareins actually is. i think a best case scenario for him would be a 3rd/4th rounder

The best case scenario is more like a 5th rounder...

[derza222]

I agree with a ton of the things people are saying, I'd rather trade the first for more picks this and next year, earliest I'd give up for Turner is the late second, I think Gary Russell would be an awesome idea (although he couldn't play this year for some reason, that could turn Mangini off), and Coleman is definitely not the same player he was his first season, although I think he may continue to start regardless.

[throwback54milkman]

I agree with a ton of the things people are saying, I'd rather trade the first for more picks this and next year, earliest I'd give up for Turner is the late second, I think Gary Russell would be an awesome idea (although he couldn't play this year for some reason, that could turn Mangini off), and Coleman is definitely not the same player he was his first season, although I think he may continue to start regardless.

safety definately isn't a need, even when coleman isn't playing great, Eric Smith stepped in and played alright.

Also does Schlegel officially suck, bc if he does maybe we can get another 3-4 ILB to compliment Vilma, but someone that is big. I don't love Barton much anymore.

[FlutiesDropKick]

Schotty is staying!!!! :D :D

[shavedaeyebrow2]

Schotty's name is off the board for Dolphin's Coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frogstomp]

Schotty is staying!!!! :D :D

Good. We need some damn continuity.

[Scorch]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2732215

I'm so happy. Good choice Shotty!

[Young Nasty Man]

that was scary for a tad..if we lost him to Miami. The thing that scares me is if he was almost willing to be a head coach this year what does the future store?

[derza222]

I agree with a ton of the things people are saying, I'd rather trade the first for more picks this and next year, earliest I'd give up for Turner is the late second, I think Gary Russell would be an awesome idea (although he couldn't play this year for some reason, that could turn Mangini off), and Coleman is definitely not the same player he was his first season, although I think he may continue to start regardless.

safety definately isn't a need, even when coleman isn't playing great, Eric Smith stepped in and played alright.

Also does Schlegel officially suck, bc if he does maybe we can get another 3-4 ILB to compliment Vilma, but someone that is big. I don't love Barton much anymore.

Never said safety was a need, just that Coleman is overrated by people on this board. I even said he'd continue to start. Another ILB compliment would be nice, David Harris?

And I'm very, very glad Schottenheimer is staying.

[nyjetsguy27]

i think that at worst coleman is a decent safety, and normally hes pretty good. even is he is only decent, eric smith showed a lottttttt of promise this past season, and i think hell be great too. a day one pick on safety would be the dumbest move in the history of the jets. good news about schotty, i love his system

[Young Nasty Man]

I think our safety's are perfect for where we are right now to be honest. Kerry Rhodes had an incredible year and Erik Coleman had a solid year for the most part. I think becuase he had an incredible rookie year, our standards for him are a litlte higher then they should be. He still gets the job done and there is nothing more id really like to see out of him. A guy I see us drafting for some reason is HB Blades. For some reason I can just see him in a Jets jersey. I dont know why but I do. I know he is probably no where on the Mangini list do to the higher needs we have, but I just picture it.

[nyjetsguy27]

i am now saying:

1-carriker
2a-mccauley
2b-bush

what does everyone think about possible meachem in round 3. we only have 2 WRs, and coles gets banged up way too much. a good #3 could reallllllly help out the pass. 2 things... do you think hell be around round 3, and do you think hell be good?

[nyjetsguy27]

i just noticed that in this entire jets thread, no one has talked about kerry rhodes non appearance to the probowl. he led all AFC safetys in sacks, ints, and i think tackles, and he doesnt make it. and its not like hes some unheard of guy, hes a big name now. i saw a interview with kerry a while back and the lady asked him "when did you know you'd be the real deal in the NFL?" he said "against the colts this year when 4 or 5 times during the course of the game manning would point to me and say WATCH KERRY... PICK UP KERRY" kerry rhodes is by far the best safety in the nfl, and he got cheated out of the probowl, period.

[Young Nasty Man]

i am now saying:

1-carriker
2a-mccauley
2b-bush

what does everyone think about possible meachem in round 3. we only have 2 WRs, and coles gets banged up way too much. a good #3 could reallllllly help out the pass. 2 things... do you think hell be around round 3, and do you think hell be good?

I dont like it at all. I dont think Carriker is worth the first round pick. I dont like this guy McCauley at all. Bush is the only one id maybe consider. Carriker is probably a smart selection but I dont think that high. McCauley is meh to me and I dont really see anything special. Bush is coming off a major injury so there are too many '?'s there. I'd rather see something like this

1. Blaylock
2a. Leonard
2b. ?

[josh07039]

i am now saying:

1-carriker
2a-mccauley
2b-bush

what does everyone think about possible meachem in round 3. we only have 2 WRs, and coles gets banged up way too much. a good #3 could reallllllly help out the pass. 2 things... do you think hell be around round 3, and do you think hell be good?

I dont like it at all. I dont think Carriker is worth the first round pick. I dont like this guy McCauley at all. Bush is the only one id maybe consider. Carriker is probably a smart selection but I dont think that high. McCauley is meh to me and I dont really see anything special. Bush is coming off a major injury so there are too many '?'s there. I'd rather see something like this

1. Blaylock
2a. Leonard
2b. ?The first mock is alright except mccauley would be the 1st rounder then Bush then Carriker. FOr that one id rather have leonard than bush. T/he second one, Blaylock may not fall to us, it the same as lynch, the chances of him falling are slim.

[Young Nasty Man]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.

[Young Nasty Man]

The more I think about it, this draft is going to depend on who is a F/A and who we sign of those people. That will clear the smoke screen for me atleast.

[nyjetsguy27]

i am now saying:

1-carriker
2a-mccauley
2b-bush

what does everyone think about possible meachem in round 3. we only have 2 WRs, and coles gets banged up way too much. a good #3 could reallllllly help out the pass. 2 things... do you think hell be around round 3, and do you think hell be good?

I dont like it at all. I dont think Carriker is worth the first round pick. I dont like this guy McCauley at all. Bush is the only one id maybe consider. Carriker is probably a smart selection but I dont think that high. McCauley is meh to me and I dont really see anything special. Bush is coming off a major injury so there are too many '?'s there. I'd rather see something like this

1. Blaylock
2a. Leonard
2b. ?The first mock is alright except mccauley would be the 1st rounder then Bush then Carriker. FOr that one id rather have leonard than bush. T/he second one, Blaylock may not fall to us, it the same as lynch, the chances of him falling are slim.

yah blalock is a 1% chance of reaching us, so i didnt even bothering putting him in. as for carriker, im not too sure how long hed last into round 2. ive been hearing a lot of hype about him, so i put him in at round 1. mccauley is about the best CB physically as possible. hes tall, strong, and fast. thats why i think its worth the try. with coaching by mangenius, he might be good. and i love bush. but what do you guys think about meachem??? you didnt tell me. good/bad? round 3 or higher?

[josh07039]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

[derza222]

We definitely talked about Rhodes getting snubbed for the Pro Bowl awhile back, at least in the NFL thread but I thought we did here too. He did make second team All-Pro though, which is more legit because I believe there's no fan voting. He should have made it, but what can we do about it at this point?

And McCauley will probably not be an average NFL corner. He will either be a superstar or a massive bust.

[josh07039]

i am now saying:

1-carriker
2a-mccauley
2b-bush

what does everyone think about possible meachem in round 3. we only have 2 WRs, and coles gets banged up way too much. a good #3 could reallllllly help out the pass. 2 things... do you think hell be around round 3, and do you think hell be good?

I dont like it at all. I dont think Carriker is worth the first round pick. I dont like this guy McCauley at all. Bush is the only one id maybe consider. Carriker is probably a smart selection but I dont think that high. McCauley is meh to me and I dont really see anything special. Bush is coming off a major injury so there are too many '?'s there. I'd rather see something like this

1. Blaylock
2a. Leonard
2b. ?The first mock is alright except mccauley would be the 1st rounder then Bush then Carriker. FOr that one id rather have leonard than bush. T/he second one, Blaylock may not fall to us, it the same as lynch, the chances of him falling are slim.

yah blalock is a 1% chance of reaching us, so i didnt even bothering putting him in. as for carriker, im not too sure how long hed last into round 2. ive been hearing a lot of hype about him, so i put him in at round 1. mccauley is about the best CB physically as possible. hes tall, strong, and fast. thats why i think its worth the try. with coaching by mangenius, he might be good. and i love bush. but what do you guys think about meachem??? you didnt tell me. good/bad? round 3 or higher?Meachem is a good player , but not necessarily filling one of our bigger needs.

[Young Nasty Man]

he is one of those guys im down on cuase of his senior season and Im just not a fant hats why I dont like him. IMO, I think he isnt going to be anything special.

[derza222]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.

[josh07039]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

[Young Nasty Man]

I had a feeling josh was arrogant.

[derza222]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

We've always been the smartest ones here and always will be...

[josh07039]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

We've always been the smartest ones here and always will be...notice I said at the moment, toonster comes here sometime.

[josh07039]

I had a feeling josh was arrogant.**** yeah, Derza always knew it, now u all know.

[derza222]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

We've always been the smartest ones here and always will be...notice I said at the moment, toonster comes here sometime.

Oh true story. toonster is the smartest person in the universe. Shaved usually knows what he's talking about too.

[josh07039]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

We've always been the smartest ones here and always will be...notice I said at the moment, toonster comes here sometime.

Oh true story. toonster is the smartest person in the universe. Shaved usually knows what he's talking about too.I suppose he does, doesn't mean I have to agree.

[derza222]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

We've always been the smartest ones here and always will be...notice I said at the moment, toonster comes here sometime.

Oh true story. toonster is the smartest person in the universe. Shaved usually knows what he's talking about too.I suppose he does, doesn't mean I have to agree.

Yeah, but he's usually money. We're NFLDC vets, we've been here for awhile, more than one draft. Speaking of which, so much changes before the draft, its tough to say that nobody worth our pick will be available or this guy is the perfect fit and will definitely be available because so much changes during predraft workouts. Just something for everyone here (including myself at times) to think about.

[bingbing]

go pats

[Vilma the Animal]

go pats
Shut the hell up. Don't go into another forum just to piss people off.

[josh07039]

go patsDude you are new so ill let this go without severly burning you. This isn't how things work here, so **** off.

[josh07039]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

We've always been the smartest ones here and always will be...notice I said at the moment, toonster comes here sometime.

Oh true story. toonster is the smartest person in the universe. Shaved usually knows what he's talking about too.I suppose he does, doesn't mean I have to agree.

Yeah, but he's usually money. We're NFLDC vets, we've been here for awhile, more than one draft. Speaking of which, so much changes before the draft, its tough to say that nobody worth our pick will be available or this guy is the perfect fit and will definitely be available because so much changes during predraft workouts. Just something for everyone here (including myself at times) to think about.Well from now on i will preface everything I type on this site with "as of right now" or " based on the information available at this moment" to illustrate that the nfl draft is a fluid ever changing entity.

[JETS5128]

i am now saying:

1-carriker
2a-mccauley
2b-bush

what does everyone think about possible meachem in round 3. we only have 2 WRs, and coles gets banged up way too much. a good #3 could reallllllly help out the pass. 2 things... do you think hell be around round 3, and do you think hell be good?

I dont like it at all. I dont think Carriker is worth the first round pick. I dont like this guy McCauley at all. Bush is the only one id maybe consider. Carriker is probably a smart selection but I dont think that high. McCauley is meh to me and I dont really see anything special. Bush is coming off a major injury so there are too many '?'s there. I'd rather see something like this

1. Blaylock
2a. Leonard
2b. ?The first mock is alright except mccauley would be the 1st rounder then Bush then Carriker. FOr that one id rather have leonard than bush. T/he second one, Blaylock may not fall to us, it the same as lynch, the chances of him falling are slim.

yah blalock is a 1% chance of reaching us, so i didnt even bothering putting him in. as for carriker, im not too sure how long hed last into round 2. ive been hearing a lot of hype about him, so i put him in at round 1. mccauley is about the best CB physically as possible. hes tall, strong, and fast. thats why i think its worth the try. with coaching by mangenius, he might be good. and i love bush. but what do you guys think about meachem??? you didnt tell me. good/bad? round 3 or higher?

Meachem won't be there in round 3, and i can't say i'm all for getting him either.

About the draft, i don't mind any of the picks, but i'm not in love with any of them either. The more i think about it the more i realize that we should really trade away our 1st rounder. Unless someone falls to us i really think we should trade for future picks.

[derza222]

its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

We've always been the smartest ones here and always will be...notice I said at the moment, toonster comes here sometime.

Oh true story. toonster is the smartest person in the universe. Shaved usually knows what he's talking about too.I suppose he does, doesn't mean I have to agree.

Yeah, but he's usually money. We're NFLDC vets, we've been here for awhile, more than one draft. Speaking of which, so much changes before the draft, its tough to say that nobody worth our pick will be available or this guy is the perfect fit and will definitely be available because so much changes during predraft workouts. Just something for everyone here (including myself at times) to think about.Well from now on i will preface everything I type on this site with "as of right now" or " based on the information available at this moment" to illustrate that the nfl draft is a fluid ever changing entity.

I didn't mean for everything its just sometimes people make it seem like theres no way that said player at said position will be worth our first rounder. And please nobody think I'm an ass for not mentioning you among smart Jets fans I was kidding, to an extent. toonster is a genius though.

Back to the draft, I was wondering who on this forum wants Turner, who wants to draft an everydown RB, and who wants to draft a power RB a bit later. Also, if you had to choose for us to trade up (for a specific player, i.e. Branch, Lynch) or trade down into the second and pick up more day 1 picks, which would you prefer?

[josh07039]

[quote:c40a45e43a="Young Nasty Man"]its more of a what I want draft rather than a mock. I forgot to put that there. I think this kid McCauley will just be another average corner that you barely hear about. He isn't anything special. Our problem is that this draft doesn't help our defensive line needs. We gotta work wtih whats there and deal with it. This is a good draft but not the type of draft the jets need. I mean some positions can clearly be helped more then other but not the ones I believe we need.I disagree about mccauley, hes not an average prospect with little potential, hes more of a boom or bust time IMO, Hes really big and fast and just an all around great athlete, however, he had a disappointing senior year which is what scares alot of people, including myself. I don't really love mccauley, but he may be one of the few value picks at our spot.

Crap we're on the same page on McCauley Josh.what, Crap, it just shows we are the smartest ones here at the moment.

We've always been the smartest ones here and always will be...notice I said at the moment, toonster comes here sometime.

Oh true story. toonster is the smartest person in the universe. Shaved usually knows what he's talking about too.I suppose he does, doesn't mean I have to agree.

Yeah, but he's usually money. We're NFLDC vets, we've been here for awhile, more than one draft. Speaking of which, so much changes before the draft, its tough to say that nobody worth our pick will be available or this guy is the perfect fit and will definitely be available because so much changes during predraft workouts. Just something for everyone here (including myself at times) to think about.Well from now on i will preface everything I type on this site with "as of right now" or " based on the information available at this moment" to illustrate that the nfl draft is a fluid ever changing entity.

I didn't mean for everything its just sometimes people make it seem like theres no way that said player at said position will be worth our first rounder. And please nobody think I'm an ass for not mentioning you among smart Jets fans I was kidding, to an extent. toonster is a genius though.

Back to the draft, I was wondering who on this forum wants Turner, who wants to draft an everydown RB, and who wants to draft a power RB a bit later. Also, if you had to choose for us to trade up (for a specific player, i.e. Branch, Lynch) or trade down into the second and pick up more day 1 picks, which would you prefer?[/quote:c40a45e43a]I feel that Leonardd's value will rise to bottom one so i don't want a trade up or down, b/c everyone knows my views on Leonard. I suppose that answers the turner question too.
Let me end with this statement, as a rabid Rutgers fan for my entire life I would consider any draft that doesn't include Leonard to be depressing and a failure. Its not merely b/c hes from RU, but b/c he fits so perfectly into this team and Mangini's team concept.

[nyjetsguy27]

to answer your question derza, heres what i want in order from most to least:

1- draft a power back in the late second (bush probably, hunt maybe)
2- trade for turner
3- draft an every down back like lynch

[jetsman309]

i think that we should draft jarvis moss. I know that we dont need a DE/OLB since we have Bryan Thomas for that but in a year or two he could fill in for the aging Kimo Von Olehoffen. He can also fill in for barton or even hobson he will be a great back up his rookie season and hopefully step in when kimo leaves.

[vilma]

go pats

classless...just like his head coach

[vilma]

i think that we should draft jarvis moss. I know that we dont need a DE/OLB since we have Bryan Thomas for that but in a year or two he could fill in for the aging Kimo Von Olehoffen. He can also fill in for barton or even hobson he will be a great back up his rookie season and hopefully step in when kimo leaves.

I like Jarvis Moss alot as a 3-4 rush OLB to play opposite Thomas and moving Hobson inside but he cant play end in a 3-4. Hes 250lbs and undersized 3-4 ends are 285.

[jetsman309]

i think that we should draft jarvis moss. I know that we dont need a DE/OLB since we have Bryan Thomas for that but in a year or two he could fill in for the aging Kimo Von Olehoffen. He can also fill in for barton or even hobson he will be a great back up his rookie season and hopefully step in when kimo leaves.

I like Jarvis Moss alot as a 3-4 rush OLB to play opposite Thomas and moving Hobson inside but he cant play end in a 3-4. Hes 250lbs and undersized 3-4 ends are 285.

that is a good point i think he would play great opposite Thomas but if we move barton inside where do we put hobson?

[frogstomp]

Ed Reed is much better than Rhodes. I mean, I love Rhodes, but come on.

[throwback54milkman]

Ed Reed is much better than Rhodes. I mean, I love Rhodes, but come on.

did anyone say he was?

[throwback54milkman]

BREAKING NEWS:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2732215


Man, so much respect for this guy, he must really like working for Mangini. I'm so happy.

[frogstomp]

Ed Reed is much better than Rhodes. I mean, I love Rhodes, but come on.

did anyone say he was?

No, this comment is out of nowhere. :roll:

Yeah, last page. Someone said Rhodes was the best Safety in the NFL.

[Young Nasty Man]

I really want Turner. He is a gem. He is a quick back that hits the hole fast. He is great for hte inside runnign game. He is a big boy and really can do some damage.

[Scorch]

BREAKING NEWS:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2732215


Man, so much respect for this guy, he must really like working for Mangini. I'm so happy.

I posted that earlier. :wink:

I really want Turner. He is a gem. He is a quick back that hits the hole fast. He is great for hte inside runnign game. He is a big boy and really can do some damage.

Me too, man. :lol:

[jetsfan3]

BREAKING NEWS:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2732215


Man, so much respect for this guy, he must really like working for Mangini. I'm so happy.

Just saw it on the Jets website. :D

[josh07039]

I really want Turner. He is a gem. He is a quick back that hits the hole fast. He is great for hte inside runnign game. He is a big boy and really can do some damage.Ill say it again, Turner benefits from going up against tired defenses geared towards stopping LT. Additionally he runs behind a great Line and the best blocking Fb in the league.

[Young Nasty Man]

He is going to be a hot commodity and it's not going to be easy but still I would love to try.

[josh07039]

He is going to be a hot commodity and it's not going to be easy but still I would love to try.all the more reason no to get involved with a hot commodity that may be vastly overrated based on the circumstances of his playing time along with alot of teams need for a rb.

[Young Nasty Man]

you just dont like me... :(

[josh07039]

you just dont like me... :(If i didnt like u i would tell u straight up, next time derza is on ask him how blunt I am in real life. Take constructive criticism like a man, don't say that I dont like you b/c I dont like one of your ideas.

[hcbrad08]

yo..... it doesn't matter if you like him or not based on what SD is projected to ask for Turner its a bad deal for the JETS...

I love TONY HUNT go over that TENN. Bowl gam he was NARSTY!

[jetsman309]

from what is says on the jets website it seems to me like Schotty just wanted to see what the process was to become a head coach so in a few years when he wants to be a coach he will already know what it is like. I dont think he ever had any intention of being Miami head coach

[nyjetsguy27]

from what is says on the jets website it seems to me like Schotty just wanted to see what the process was to become a head coach so in a few years when he wants to be a coach he will already know what it is like. I dont think he ever had any intention of being Miami head coach

i think thats ********. any OC or DC would take a HC job in a heartbeat, even if its for a team/city that they dont particularly like. HC is the goal of anyone involved in the nfl, and plus on top of that the money is like 5 times more. i guarentee you that if schotty had the offer officially handed to him on the table, hed be gone right now

[nyjetsguy27]

antonio pittman officially declare for the draft, and is the #3 RB on mel kiper's board behind AP and lynch. if everyone says lynch is a little bit of a reach to get to us in round 1, pittman would be pretty much realistic then. what would you all think of going pittman round 1?

[The Swamp]

antonio pittman officially declare for the draft, and is the #3 RB on mel kiper's board behind AP and lynch. if everyone says lynch is a little bit of a reach to get to us in round 1, pittman would be pretty much realistic then. what would you all think of going pittman round 1?

Yes Antonio Pittman had great stats but do you really think he can put up the same numbers against an NFL defense. As we all saw against Florida, which has an excellent run defense, Pittman was only held to 62 rush yards and 1 TD. Most of these yards were gained after the game was out of reach and Florida's reserves were in the game. I think a Pittman would not be such a great answer for the Jets draft choice.

[nyjetsguy27]

antonio pittman officially declare for the draft, and is the #3 RB on mel kiper's board behind AP and lynch. if everyone says lynch is a little bit of a reach to get to us in round 1, pittman would be pretty much realistic then. what would you all think of going pittman round 1?

Yes Antonio Pittman had great stats but do you really think he can put up the same numbers against an NFL defense. As we all saw against Florida, which has an excellent run defense, Pittman was only held to 62 rush yards and 1 TD. Most of these yards were gained after the game was out of reach and Florida's reserves were in the game. I think a Pittman would not be such a great answer for the Jets draft choice.

if you dont like pittman, who do you want them to take then?

[The Swamp]

If I was Mike Tanenbaum I would draft Jarvis Moss DE out of Florida. He is a playmaker and leader on Defense. Something the Jets desperately need on thier D-Line. With Jarvis Moss on the Line, Vilma at LB, and Rhodes in the secondary the Jets Defense would be great. Jarvis Moss definitely has the size and power to break through the offensive line. He would bring the spark the jets need right away in his rookie season. Replacing Kemo on the line, the jets run defense and quarterback coverage would be greatly improved and be on their way to another playoff berth. He also is an excellent Field Goal/Punt Blocker!

[nyjetsguy27]

If I was Mike Tanenbaum I would draft Jarvis Moss DE out of Florida. He is a playmaker and leader on Defense. Something the Jets desperately need on thier D-Line. With Jarvis Moss on the Line, Vilma at LB, and Rhodes in the secondary the Jets Defense would be great. Jarvis Moss definitely has the size and power to break through the offensive line. He would bring the spark the jets need right away in his rookie season. Replacing Kemo on the line, the jets run defense and quarterback coverage would be greatly improved and be on their way to another playoff berth. He also is an excellent Field Goal/Punt Blocker!

first of all buddy, its spelt kimo not kemo. second, a FG or punt is blocked once every 12 years, so thats not even a legit comment. third, he isnt big enough to be a bigtime factor in our defensive scheme.

[The Swamp]

If I was Mike Tanenbaum I would draft Jarvis Moss DE out of Florida. He is a playmaker and leader on Defense. Something the Jets desperately need on thier D-Line. With Jarvis Moss on the Line, Vilma at LB, and Rhodes in the secondary the Jets Defense would be great. Jarvis Moss definitely has the size and power to break through the offensive line. He would bring the spark the jets need right away in his rookie season. Replacing Kemo on the line, the jets run defense and quarterback coverage would be greatly improved and be on their way to another playoff berth. He also is an excellent Field Goal/Punt Blocker!

first of all buddy, its spelt kimo not kemo. second, a FG or punt is blocked once every 12 years, so thats not even a legit comment. third, he isnt big enough to be a bigtime factor in our defensive scheme.

First of all buddy sorry about the Kemo/Kimo and second of all where do you get your stats from field goal block once every 12 years, maybe you should get your stats right before you post another message on my forum. I guarantee if the jets draft moss he will lead the team with sacks and block at least one field goal. The jets defensive scheme is in turmoil, any help they can get will improve them and bring a super bowl to NY.

[nyjetsguy27]

If I was Mike Tanenbaum I would draft Jarvis Moss DE out of Florida. He is a playmaker and leader on Defense. Something the Jets desperately need on thier D-Line. With Jarvis Moss on the Line, Vilma at LB, and Rhodes in the secondary the Jets Defense would be great. Jarvis Moss definitely has the size and power to break through the offensive line. He would bring the spark the jets need right away in his rookie season. Replacing Kemo on the line, the jets run defense and quarterback coverage would be greatly improved and be on their way to another playoff berth. He also is an excellent Field Goal/Punt Blocker!

first of all buddy, its spelt kimo not kemo. second, a FG or punt is blocked once every 12 years, so thats not even a legit comment. third, he isnt big enough to be a bigtime factor in our defensive scheme.

First of all buddy sorry about the Kemo/Kimo and second of all where do you get your stats from field goal block once every 12 years, maybe you should get your stats right before you post another message on my forum. I guarantee if the jets draft moss he will lead the team with sacks and block at least one field goal. The jets defensive scheme is in turmoil, any help they can get will improve them and bring a super bowl to NY.

i was exaggerating about the 12 year thing tough guy. the only reason you like jarvis moss is because hes one of your ***** florida gators

[The Swamp]

If I was Mike Tanenbaum I would draft Jarvis Moss DE out of Florida. He is a playmaker and leader on Defense. Something the Jets desperately need on thier D-Line. With Jarvis Moss on the Line, Vilma at LB, and Rhodes in the secondary the Jets Defense would be great. Jarvis Moss definitely has the size and power to break through the offensive line. He would bring the spark the jets need right away in his rookie season. Replacing Kemo on the line, the jets run defense and quarterback coverage would be greatly improved and be on their way to another playoff berth. He also is an excellent Field Goal/Punt Blocker!

first of all buddy, its spelt kimo not kemo. second, a FG or punt is blocked once every 12 years, so thats not even a legit comment. third, he isnt big enough to be a bigtime factor in our defensive scheme.

First of all buddy sorry about the Kemo/Kimo and second of all where do you get your stats from field goal block once every 12 years, maybe you should get your stats right before you post another message on my forum. I guarantee if the jets draft moss he will lead the team with sacks and block at least one field goal. The jets defensive scheme is in turmoil, any help they can get will improve them and bring a super bowl to NY.

i was exaggerating about the 12 year thing tough guy. the only reason you like jarvis moss is because hes one of your *********** florida gators

Alright im sorry about jumping down your throat like that. i think its just b/c your probably like a Duke or Notre Dame football fan and you were very disappointed this year after the Gators proved to be the best team in this millenium.

[vilma]

If I was Mike Tanenbaum I would draft Jarvis Moss DE out of Florida. He is a playmaker and leader on Defense. Something the Jets desperately need on thier D-Line. With Jarvis Moss on the Line, Vilma at LB, and Rhodes in the secondary the Jets Defense would be great. Jarvis Moss definitely has the size and power to break through the offensive line. He would bring the spark the jets need right away in his rookie season. Replacing Kemo on the line, the jets run defense and quarterback coverage would be greatly improved and be on their way to another playoff berth. He also is an excellent Field Goal/Punt Blocker!

Moss would be an OLB in our scheme and would be a perfect fit. Him or Blalock would be our pick at 25 not Hughes as scott has in his mock. Personally, if I couldnt trade out of rd 1 I would go:
1) 25) Justin Blalock OG
2) 6) Anthony Spencer OLB/DE
2) 25) Chris Houston or Aaron Ross CB
3) 25) Gary Russell RB

I would love to add Meachem if we could get another 2nd rd pick and I would love to trade out of rd 1 and end up getting Grubbs to play guard and an extra 1st rd pick next yr.

[Vilma the Animal]

If I was Mike Tanenbaum I would draft Jarvis Moss DE out of Florida. He is a playmaker and leader on Defense. Something the Jets desperately need on thier D-Line. With Jarvis Moss on the Line, Vilma at LB, and Rhodes in the secondary the Jets Defense would be great. Jarvis Moss definitely has the size and power to break through the offensive line. He would bring the spark the jets need right away in his rookie season. Replacing Kemo on the line, the jets run defense and quarterback coverage would be greatly improved and be on their way to another playoff berth. He also is an excellent Field Goal/Punt Blocker!

Moss would be an OLB in our scheme and would be a perfect fit. Him or Blalock would be our pick at 25 not Hughes as scott has in his mock. Personally, if I couldnt trade out of rd 1 I would go:
1) 25) Justin Blalock OG
2) 6) Anthony Spencer OLB/DE
2) 25) Chris Houston or Aaron Ross CB
3) 25) Gary Russell RB

I would love to add Meachem if we could get another 2nd rd pick and I would love to trade out of rd 1 and end up getting Grubbs to play guard and an extra 1st rd pick next yr.
I agree perfectly with the draft you have listed. I don't like your idea of trading out of round one for Grubbs. Blaylock would be a lot better than him IMO and would also help the run game a lottt!!!

I love the idea of Turner. As long as we don't have to give up a first rounder for him, we do have 2 second rounders and I think he's better than any back we'd draft in the second round. (Except maybe Leonard, but he'd fit a very different role.) I think Turner has the potential to prove himself as a great starter in this league.

[shavedaeyebrow2]

I know this doesn't matter at all, but in the forum mock, I traded away Brad Kassell to the 49ers for Marques Douglas. At the moment, I am about to get Willis McGahee for the 'skins 2nd. It's killing 2 birds with one stone, because now when we play the Bills, we won't have to worry about Willis destroying us. We also get a great young RB.

I know basically everyone wants Okoye in the draft, but let's say Okoye isn't at my pick (#25). Who do you guys think I should take? I was thinking best CB available or if any good 3-4 DEs fall take one. If not, trade for more picks.

[jetsman309]

I know this doesn't matter at all, but in the forum mock, I traded away Brad Kassell to the 49ers for Marques Douglas. At the moment, I am about to get Willis McGahee for the 'skins 2nd. It's killing 2 birds with one stone, because now when we play the Bills, we won't have to worry about Willis destroying us. We also get a great young RB.

I know basically everyone wants Okoye in the draft, but let's say Okoye isn't at my pick (#25). Who do you guys think I should take? I was thinking best CB available or if any good 3-4 DEs fall take one. If not, trade for more picks.

If we actually got McGahee that would be the happiest day of my life. I think you should take Jarvis Moss at the 25th pick.

[Vilma the Animal]

I know this doesn't matter at all, but in the forum mock, I traded away Brad Kassell to the 49ers for Marques Douglas. At the moment, I am about to get Willis McGahee for the 'skins 2nd. It's killing 2 birds with one stone, because now when we play the Bills, we won't have to worry about Willis destroying us. We also get a great young RB.

I know basically everyone wants Okoye in the draft, but let's say Okoye isn't at my pick (#25). Who do you guys think I should take? I was thinking best CB available or if any good 3-4 DEs fall take one. If not, trade for more picks.

If we actually got McGahee that would be the happiest day of my life. I think you should take Jarvis Moss at the 25th pick.
That could be a good one...him Anthony Spencer, Charles Johnson, or maybe Quentin Moses if he falls that far. Any of those guys could really help our pass rush.

[throwback54milkman]

Mcgahee would be amazing and Vilma would definately push management to get him. Id give up our first for him.

[Zim3031]

Mcgahee isn't anything special, we jets fans just think he's good because he kicks our ass every year. he doesn't really do anything else for the rest of the year

[throwback54milkman]

Mcgahee isn't anything special, we jets fans just think he's good because he kicks our ass every year. he doesn't really do anything else for the rest of the year

he's better than anyone we got, and he's probably a top 15 back when he's healthy.

[nyjetsguy27]

why does scott have us taking hughes in the mock? thats the dumbest thing that ive ever seen. he does have blalock on the board at our pick though. you never know, we might just get lucky

[Young Nasty Man]

Ya I started to quesiton myself wtih who Scott has there. But you can't question the man.

1) 25) Justin Blalock OG
2) 6) Anthony Spencer OLB/DE
2) 25) Chris Houston or Aaron Ross CB
3) 25) Gary Russell RB


This is my Ideal draft. This would be perfect but very hard to get. Also, if we can get Turner then that would be great aswell. Gary Russell is a solid running back. If I had to pick any back over him it would be Brian Leonard, but thats a biased opinion. I think Aaron Ross is one of the best corners in the draft and will be a really good corner in the pros. He hits liek a tank and is a beast. I think this is a sick draft.

I dont want Jarvis Moss. I really don't think we should use our pick on that position in the first round inless someone unreal like Gaines Adams or Quentin Moses. Thats my personal opinion, I just don't believe its the right thing to do. I think that it starts in the trenches and if we can get another blocker to add to our line, we are going to have great time for Chad and the run game will open up.

[Vilma the Animal]

Ya I started to quesiton myself wtih who Scott has there. But you can't question the man.

1) 25) Justin Blalock OG
2) 6) Anthony Spencer OLB/DE
2) 25) Chris Houston or Aaron Ross CB
3) 25) Gary Russell RB


This is my Ideal draft. This would be perfect but very hard to get. Also, if we can get Turner then that would be great aswell. Gary Russell is a solid running back. If I had to pick any back over him it would be Brian Leonard, but thats a biased opinion. I think Aaron Ross is one of the best corners in the draft and will be a really good corner in the pros. He hits liek a tank and is a beast. I think this is a sick draft.

I dont want Jarvis Moss. I really don't think we should use our pick on that position in the first round inless someone unreal like Gaines Adams or Quentin Moses. Thats my personal opinion, I just don't believe its the right thing to do. I think that it starts in the trenches and if we can get another blocker to add to our line, we are going to have great time for Chad and the run game will open up.
I don't think that Moss is that much behind Moses. Behind Gaines and Anderson yes, but Moses really underachieved this year and pushed himself back from an early 1st round pick to a mid-late first rounder. If he doesn't work out well he may even be around at our pick. You never know.

[FlutiesDropKick]

Ya I started to quesiton myself wtih who Scott has there. But you can't question the man.

1) 25) Justin Blalock OG
2) 6) Anthony Spencer OLB/DE
2) 25) Chris Houston or Aaron Ross CB
3) 25) Gary Russell RB


This is my Ideal draft. This would be perfect but very hard to get. Also, if we can get Turner then that would be great aswell. Gary Russell is a solid running back. If I had to pick any back over him it would be Brian Leonard, but thats a biased opinion. I think Aaron Ross is one of the best corners in the draft and will be a really good corner in the pros. He hits liek a tank and is a beast. I think this is a sick draft.

I dont want Jarvis Moss. I really don't think we should use our pick on that position in the first round inless someone unreal like Gaines Adams or Quentin Moses. Thats my personal opinion, I just don't believe its the right thing to do. I think that it starts in the trenches and if we can get another blocker to add to our line, we are going to have great time for Chad and the run game will open up.

I like that draft alot but with Hobson and Thomas both being locked up for a while i don't see us drafting any hybrid type players early unless an Adams or a Moses falls to us. Thats being said i'd still pass on Moses anyway as i'd like MOss over him but not in Round 1. If he's on the board and Revis, ROss and Blalock are off the board it wouldn't be the worst pick in early round 2. I would like Blaylock and if we can't land Revis, then Ross is my favorite corner in this draft. AS for Russel i've liked him since he was still playing and like his potential. If we got that draft i would be a little unhappy with Spencer depending on who else is on the board but overall i wouldsn't complain

[vilma]

Ya I started to quesiton myself wtih who Scott has there. But you can't question the man.

1) 25) Justin Blalock OG
2) 6) Anthony Spencer OLB/DE
2) 25) Chris Houston or Aaron Ross CB
3) 25) Gary Russell RB


This is my Ideal draft. This would be perfect but very hard to get. Also, if we can get Turner then that would be great aswell. Gary Russell is a solid running back. If I had to pick any back over him it would be Brian Leonard, but thats a biased opinion. I think Aaron Ross is one of the best corners in the draft and will be a really good corner in the pros. He hits liek a tank and is a beast. I think this is a sick draft.

I dont want Jarvis Moss. I really don't think we should use our pick on that position in the first round inless someone unreal like Gaines Adams or Quentin Moses. Thats my personal opinion, I just don't believe its the right thing to do. I think that it starts in the trenches and if we can get another blocker to add to our line, we are going to have great time for Chad and the run game will open up.

I like that draft alot but with Hobson and Thomas both being locked up for a while i don't see us drafting any hybrid type players early unless an Adams or a Moses falls to us. Thats being said i'd still pass on Moses anyway as i'd like MOss over him but not in Round 1. If he's on the board and Revis, ROss and Blalock are off the board it wouldn't be the worst pick in early round 2. I would like Blaylock and if we can't land Revis, then Ross is my favorite corner in this draft. AS for Russel i've liked him since he was still playing and like his potential. If we got that draft i would be a little unhappy with Spencer depending on who else is on the board but overall i wouldsn't complain
our pass rush needs to improve. All good 34 D's have 2 consistant pass rushers. Hobson would move to ILB next to Vilma

[FlutiesDropKick]

Ya I started to quesiton myself wtih who Scott has there. But you can't question the man.

1) 25) Justin Blalock OG
2) 6) Anthony Spencer OLB/DE
2) 25) Chris Houston or Aaron Ross CB
3) 25) Gary Russell RB


This is my Ideal draft. This would be perfect but very hard to get. Also, if we can get Turner then that would be great aswell. Gary Russell is a solid running back. If I had to pick any back over him it would be Brian Leonard, but thats a biased opinion. I think Aaron Ross is one of the best corners in the draft and will be a really good corner in the pros. He hits liek a tank and is a beast. I think this is a sick draft.

I dont want Jarvis Moss. I really don't think we should use our pick on that position in the first round inless someone unreal like Gaines Adams or Quentin Moses. Thats my personal opinion, I just don't believe its the right thing to do. I think that it starts in the trenches and if we can get another blocker to add to our line, we are going to have great time for Chad and the run game will open up.

I like that draft alot but with Hobson and Thomas both being locked up for a while i don't see us drafting any hybrid type players early unless an Adams or a Moses falls to us. Thats being said i'd still pass on Moses anyway as i'd like MOss over him but not in Round 1. If he's on the board and Revis, ROss and Blalock are off the board it wouldn't be the worst pick in early round 2. I would like Blaylock and if we can't land Revis, then Ross is my favorite corner in this draft. AS for Russel i've liked him since he was still playing and like his potential. If we got that draft i would be a little unhappy with Spencer depending on who else is on the board but overall i wouldsn't complain
our pass rush needs to improve. All good 34 D's have 2 consistant pass rushers. Hobson would move to ILB next to Vilma

what about barton? Also that would probably spell the end for either Kassel or Schlegal as keeping that many ILB would be rather pointless

[Vilma the Animal]

Ya I started to quesiton myself wtih who Scott has there. But you can't question the man.

1) 25) Justin Blalock OG
2) 6) Anthony Spencer OLB/DE
2) 25) Chris Houston or Aaron Ross CB
3) 25) Gary Russell RB


This is my Ideal draft. This would be perfect but very hard to get. Also, if we can get Turner then that would be great aswell. Gary Russell is a solid running back. If I had to pick any back over him it would be Brian Leonard, but thats a biased opinion. I think Aaron Ross is one of the best corners in the draft and will be a really good corner in the pros. He hits liek a tank and is a beast. I think this is a sick draft.

I dont want Jarvis Moss. I really don't think we should use our pick on that position in the first round inless someone unreal like Gaines Adams or Quentin Moses. Thats my personal opinion, I just don't believe its the right thing to do. I think that it starts in the trenches and if we can get another blocker to add to our line, we are going to have great time for Chad and the run game will open up.

I like that draft alot but with Hobson and Thomas both being locked up for a while i don't see us drafting any hybrid type players early unless an Adams or a Moses falls to us. Thats being said i'd still pass on Moses anyway as i'd like MOss over him but not in Round 1. If he's on the board and Revis, ROss and Blalock are off the board it wouldn't be the worst pick in early round 2. I would like Blaylock and if we can't land Revis, then Ross is my favorite corner in this draft. AS for Russel i've liked him since he was still playing and like his potential. If we got that draft i would be a little unhappy with Spencer depending on who else is on the board but overall i wouldsn't complain
our pass rush needs to improve. All good 34 D's have 2 consistant pass rushers. Hobson would move to ILB next to Vilma

what about barton? Also that would probably spell the end for either Kassel or Schlegal as keeping that many ILB would be rather pointless
I've heard speculation about letting Barton go. He didn't really have a great season.

[nyjetsguy27]

yah barton is the worst of our LBs, but i still think its worth keeping him

[El$anDollah]

anybody check out the latest draft. i cant beleive we are slated to taking hughes over blaylock. i know its still early but if we were to take a corner, would we really want him?

[Young Nasty Man]

I feel like there is going to be a major roster thrashing...its going to be interseting with what happens in the offseason to say the least..

[nyjetsguy27]

I feel like there is going to be a major roster thrashing...its going to be interseting with what happens in the offseason to say the least..

i dont think so. mangini is all about character and team play. he wouldnt take a team that played together like family, and totally rip them apart. we have a few needs that we need to address (DL, RB, CB), and he will fix them with the draft and maybe a f/a or 2, but other than that he will basically keep the face of this franchise the same. nice sig btw nasty man

[Zim3031]

I feel like there is going to be a major roster thrashing...its going to be interseting with what happens in the offseason to say the least..

The Roster thrashing was last year, this year we have tons of cap space and nearly all of our starters under contract.

[nvot9]

Do you see any possibility that they JEts trade up to get Alan Branch?

[Scorch]

Do you see any possibility that they JEts trade up to get Alan Branch?

No. No trading up.

[throwback54milkman]

Do you see any possibility that they JEts trade up to get Alan Branch?

No. No trading up.

probably not- it would be bad management to trade up for a DT like twice in 4/5 years, and he's no lock to be a star NT anyways. Maybe if Gaines Adams or Jamaal Anderson fall further than expect like around 15 then we might try to trade up there.

[Newbs24]

Do you see any possibility that they JEts trade up to get Alan Branch?
Not worth the price probably. I think going after a guy like Terdell Sands in FA is probably the more efficient option. Then we can move Dwayne to DE.

[nvot9]

To be perfectly honest, as much as I procaimed NT to be the Jets biggest need and a must have in the first round, I'm starting to not think so anymore. I mean when you go down the list of 3-4 teams' NT's, none really have an absolutely dominant NT, and certainly not the same way that 4-3 teams have dominant DT's. I mean take the Pats for example, Vince Wilfork, only been in the NFL for 3 seasons, and he's one of the best DT's/NT's in the NFL already, but he's not a dominant player who racks up superior stats. But he's stout, good against the run, and requires multiple men or a sack is coming.In my opinion, after reviewing a little bit, Dewayne Robertson did all that plus more last year, and certainly has given room for even more improvement as well. I see us more going for an outstanding DE, ala Richard Seymour, someone like Carriker maybe or Barak Atkins later.

Thoughts?

What is everyone's opinion on what we do in the first round right now. I wouldn't be opposed to trading down..

[Newbs24]

What is everyone's opinion on what we do in the first round right now. I wouldn't be opposed to trading down..

Carriker or a great pass-rushing OLB (there are a ton of them)

What do you think we would ask for in return for #26 in a potential trade? Two 2nds? A 2nd and a 3rd?

[JETS5128]

What is everyone's opinion on what we do in the first round right now. I wouldn't be opposed to trading down..

I would really love trading down too

[AlexDown]

What is everyone's opinion on what we do in the first round right now. I wouldn't be opposed to trading down..

I would really love trading down too

We would be basically be swapping our 1st and giving up 2 seconds to move up to the what 10 spot? Doesn't sound worth it to me.

[JETS5128]

What is everyone's opinion on what we do in the first round right now. I wouldn't be opposed to trading down..

I would really love trading down too

We would be basically be swapping our 1st and giving up 2 seconds to move up to the what 10 spot? Doesn't sound worth it to me.

[FlutiesDropKick]

Do you see any possibility that they JEts trade up to get Alan Branch?
Not worth the price probably. I think going after a guy like Terdell Sands in FA is probably the more efficient option. Then we can move Dwayne to DE.

oo god, he may be the ugliest man in the NFL not named McQuistan, but hes one big mofo

[FlutiesDropKick]

What is everyone's opinion on what we do in the first round right now. I wouldn't be opposed to trading down..

Carriker or a great pass-rushing OLB (there are a ton of them)

What do you think we would ask for in return for #26 in a potential trade? Two 2nds? A 2nd and a 3rd?

I like Carriker or Blalock with our first rounder but unless we can somehow land Adams i don't really feel the pressing need to take a rush backer since thomas and hobson were solid. I'd rather grab another ILB in the 2nd and either carriker, blalock, Levi Brown (a few mocks have him falling to us) or if Revis falls i feel we can't pass him up in the 1st.

[AlexDown]

What is everyone's opinion on what we do in the first round right now. I wouldn't be opposed to trading down..

I would really love trading down too

We would be basically be swapping our 1st and giving up 2 seconds to move up to the what 10 spot? Doesn't sound worth it to me.

Yikes.......... :oops: :lol: :oops:

[nyjetsguy27]

Do you see any possibility that they JEts trade up to get Alan Branch?

i wouldnt do it. wed need to get into the top 10 to get him, meaning wed give up some huge draft picks and maybe a player or 2 too. we all know how mangini uses belichick's style, and theres no way hes gonna make a crazy trade like that. hed prefer to sign guys off the street like they do in new england than make a huge trade for one guy like that

[jetsfan3]

The only player I really want the Jets to get is Blaylock. If he's not there, trade down.

[throwback54milkman]

Why is everyone so low on Lamarr Woodley all of a sudden?

And how come Hobson can't move inside, he's not a great pass rusher really?

[FlutiesDropKick]

Do you see any possibility that they JEts trade up to get Alan Branch?

i wouldnt do it. wed need to get into the top 10 to get him, meaning wed give up some huge draft picks and maybe a player or 2 too. we all know how mangini uses belichick's style, and theres no way hes gonna make a crazy trade like that. hed prefer to sign guys off the street like they do in new england than make a huge trade for one guy like that

i'd like to see CJ Mosley get some chances at the nose

[El$anDollah]

Why is everyone so low on Lamarr Woodley all of a sudden?

And how come Hobson can't move inside, he's not a great pass rusher really?


we have great depth at lb even though he would be great for our pass rush.

[hcbrad08]

Woodley is a down lineman with less speed than other DE's which would make him a worse pick for OLB...Hobson can't move inside because he's too small to combo with Vilma...The Jets should trade down unless they can grab Blalock in the 1st, maybe trade the 1st rounder away to the Bucs who have 2 2nd Rounders which according to the trade value chart approx=25th pick in the 1st. 4 picks in the 2nd, in the words of Borat, "I like!"

[derza222]

To be perfectly honest, as much as I procaimed NT to be the Jets biggest need and a must have in the first round, I'm starting to not think so anymore. I mean when you go down the list of 3-4 teams' NT's, none really have an absolutely dominant NT, and certainly not the same way that 4-3 teams have dominant DT's. I mean take the Pats for example, Vince Wilfork, only been in the NFL for 3 seasons, and he's one of the best DT's/NT's in the NFL already, but he's not a dominant player who racks up superior stats. But he's stout, good against the run, and requires multiple men or a sack is coming.In my opinion, after reviewing a little bit, Dewayne Robertson did all that plus more last year, and certainly has given room for even more improvement as well. I see us more going for an outstanding DE, ala Richard Seymour, someone like Carriker maybe or Barak Atkins later.

Thoughts?

What is everyone's opinion on what we do in the first round right now. I wouldn't be opposed to trading down..

The reason 3-4 NT's are so important is to clog up holes and require multiple blockers, preferably 2-3 on every play. They also get a little bit of a push and move forwards insteas of back. Guys like Teddy Washington, Jamaal Williams with the Chargers, and Casey Hampton with the Steelers are dominant NT's because they do this every play and wear defenses down. If you notice, each team with a great 3-4 NT usually has a very, very good run defense because the linebackers can roam around and make plays since the line takes up so many blockers. I don't think DeWayne did that at NT all the time, he was more quickness and the threat to penetrate than just pure force like most 3-4 NT's. He did a pretty good job, but he did it differently and I think our run defense would be better with a true 3-4 NT, which DeWayne is not. I also think we would be better in a 4-3, but I guess its pointless to hope that now. Anyway, I think NT is still a very big need, maybe not the biggest but still a need, but it was never a first round need because there are no first round 3-4 NT's as of right now. And I'm a fan of trading down as of right now, although I think one of the power RB's (by the way, everyone has to stop calling Michael Bush is a power RB, just because he's 250 doesn't mean he runs with power) will raise thru the combine and predraft workouts and we'll have to consider him at 26. That, a lineman (not a 4-3 DE, and no rush LB's either), or a trade down, all work for me.

[vilma]

Woodley is a down lineman with less speed than other DE's which would make him a worse pick for OLB...Hobson can't move inside because he's too small to combo with Vilma...The Jets should trade down unless they can grab Blalock in the 1st, maybe trade the 1st rounder away to the Bucs who have 2 2nd Rounders which according to the trade value chart approx=25th pick in the 1st. 4 picks in the 2nd, in the words of Borat, "I like!"
Hobson is bigger than Barton. And 6-1 250 is plenty of size to play ILB in the 3-4

[hcbrad08]

Hobson is 6'0 and so is Vilma thats a bad combo for seeing the play develop from the inside. Hobson is faster than Barton and is a good OLB...for those who said Barton had a bad / down year and will be cut he had 4 sacks from the inside and had 101 tackles which was more than Hobson (including 13 more solo tackles). A quiet year isn't necesarily a bad year...The LBs are not problem, the pressure on the QB wasn't there bc Kimo absolutely blew donkey d!ck and never commanded a double team which you need in a 3-4... DE is a big need if there are no NTs to draft or pick up in FA and then move Dewayne to DE.

[Naked Jehuty]

Why does Scott feel Miller is on his way out of NY?

[vilma]

Why does Scott feel Miller is on his way out of NY?
hes not on the way out of NY but he is porbally not considered a starting caliber CB anymore

[Vilma the Animal]

Why does everyone like the idea of trading down so much? It's really not that smart to me, it just seems to me like everyone just throws that phrase around for approval. We already have 2 second round picks, which means, the way I see it we could potentially get 4 starting caliber players. (With each of our first day picks, assuming we draft smartly.) It's not like our roster is all set by any means, but I really don't think that we have THAT many needs that we should trade down. Chances are someone will slip to the Jets pick. Plus, I'd rather take the superior talent then trading down when we can already fill all our needs.

[nyjetsguy27]

the real question is why does everyone (including scott) want an OLB so much?!?! we have 4 LBs that are all great, 1 or 2 that are amazing. i keep hearing people talk about drafting these DE/OLB tweeners to be pass rushing OLBs. i think that is 100% dumb. if you want to go for a DE thats a 3-4 player thats massive and a hole clogger thats perfect, but please dont tell me we need these jarvis moss type pass rushing LBs.

[throwback54milkman]

the real question is why does everyone (including scott) want an OLB so much?!?! we have 4 LBs that are all great, 1 or 2 that are amazing. i keep hearing people talk about drafting these DE/OLB tweeners to be pass rushing OLBs. i think that is 100% dumb. if you want to go for a DE thats a 3-4 player thats massive and a hole clogger thats perfect, but please dont tell me we need these jarvis moss type pass rushing LBs.

because what if we found the next Shawne Merriman, Demarcus Ware, Joey Porter, Roosey Colvin, etc. type player- Bryan Thomas is that type but Victor Hobson certainly isn't- our pass rush really wasn't that good last year-- i agree a big DE would help too.

[Vilma the Animal]

the real question is why does everyone (including scott) want an OLB so much?!?! we have 4 LBs that are all great, 1 or 2 that are amazing. i keep hearing people talk about drafting these DE/OLB tweeners to be pass rushing OLBs. i think that is 100% dumb. if you want to go for a DE thats a 3-4 player thats massive and a hole clogger thats perfect, but please dont tell me we need these jarvis moss type pass rushing LBs.
I think that's exactly what we need. Bottom line, we had NO pass rush this year when we needed it. No matter how good our LBs are on paper, it shouldn't matter, because the facts are just blatantly obvious. Now I do agree that most of that is on the defensive line's lack of penetration. So I would agree that a 3-4 DE and NT is probably our biggest need on defense. However to say that a situational pass rusher and someone who can consistently get to the QB is not a need is just rediculous. That need can be adressed later in the draft, though. Just look at Mark Anderson of the Bears. They hads their LBs set already, but they got a great late round steal in Anderson, a guy who can come in and consistently pressure the QB in passing situations. So I think our top needs are still on the D-line, but if no elite 3-4 D-line talent, CB, Blaylock, or an elite RB (basically only Lynch and Peterson, but they should both be long gone by our pick) falls to us, I wouldn't mind getting the best available 3-4 pass-rushing OLB by any means. So I really think Moss would help our team a lot. And that ends my rant...

[Zim3031]

the real question is why does everyone (including scott) want an OLB so much?!?! we have 4 LBs that are all great, 1 or 2 that are amazing. i keep hearing people talk about drafting these DE/OLB tweeners to be pass rushing OLBs. i think that is 100% dumb. if you want to go for a DE thats a 3-4 player thats massive and a hole clogger thats perfect, but please dont tell me we need these jarvis moss type pass rushing LBs.

great???? we have four linebackers that are decent. Our pass rush this season has been very mediocre, to pass on an elite pass rush prospect should one fall into our hands.

Pass rush is everything in today's NFL.

[Vilma the Animal]

the real question is why does everyone (including scott) want an OLB so much?!?! we have 4 LBs that are all great, 1 or 2 that are amazing. i keep hearing people talk about drafting these DE/OLB tweeners to be pass rushing OLBs. i think that is 100% dumb. if you want to go for a DE thats a 3-4 player thats massive and a hole clogger thats perfect, but please dont tell me we need these jarvis moss type pass rushing LBs.

because what if we found the next Shawne Merriman, Demarcus Ware, Joey Porter, Roosey Colvin, etc. type player- Bryan Thomas is that type but Victor Hobson certainly isn't- our pass rush really wasn't that good last year-- i agree a big DE would help too.
Man, lol while I was typing my whole big shebang you basically summed it up in a few words.

[Young Nasty Man]

We can't just have Kerry Rhodes blitz every play because thats foolish. And as you guys named before, you need a guy who has speed and strength to be OLB in the 3-4. Im starting now to regreat what I was saying about Jarvis Moss. I think he would be a good pick and exciting at that. Florida produces a lot of good guys, this year primarily defense. If we can get one of their monster D-lineman that would be good. So, for all the people out there im sorry I was a fool and said that we shouldn't draft Moss.

Now, my question is if it came down to the following three, who would you select?

Brian Leonard
Michael Bush
Kenny Irons

I believe that Leonard fits best with the team. He is a great guy and a leader, I want him but what do you think?

[Vilma the Animal]

We can't just have Kerry Rhodes blitz every play because thats foolish. And as you guys named before, you need a guy who has speed and strength to be OLB in the 3-4. Im starting now to regreat what I was saying about Jarvis Moss. I think he would be a good pick and exciting at that. Florida produces a lot of good guys, this year primarily defense. If we can get one of their monster D-lineman that would be good. So, for all the people out there im sorry I was a fool and said that we shouldn't draft Moss.

Now, my question is if it came down to the following three, who would you select?

Brian Leonard
Michael Bush
Kenny Irons

I believe that Leonard fits best with the team. He is a great guy and a leader, I want him but what do you think?
Biggest upside (or at least as a pure HB)=by far Michael Bush. But because of the injury risk I think I'd want Leonard. Plus, Leonard would not only be a great compliment to Leon but he's a great blocker and also could add a lot to the passing game. He also is a very Mangini-type player, someone who does whatever it takes to win, works hard, and fills many roles. I think Irons could be a great "grind it out" power type back, but with the nagging injury problems (and lack of consistensy because of them), could he handle the load inside at the next level? That question scares me in the long run for Irons.

[throwback54milkman]

We can't just have Kerry Rhodes blitz every play because thats foolish. And as you guys named before, you need a guy who has speed and strength to be OLB in the 3-4. Im starting now to regreat what I was saying about Jarvis Moss. I think he would be a good pick and exciting at that. Florida produces a lot of good guys, this year primarily defense. If we can get one of their monster D-lineman that would be good. So, for all the people out there im sorry I was a fool and said that we shouldn't draft Moss.

Now, my question is if it came down to the following three, who would you select?

Brian Leonard
Michael Bush
Kenny Irons

I believe that Leonard fits best with the team. He is a great guy and a leader, I want him but what do you think?

Michael Turner

Out of those 3, Bush has the most potential, but Leonard would also be good (remember Pennington used to throw to the FB a lot (Richie Anderson))

A great draft would be:

Blaylock
Jarvis Moss
Brian Leonard

If we go O-Line first round we can afford to have a "threat" as FB because he wouldn't need to block as much.

[Vilma the Animal]

We can't just have Kerry Rhodes blitz every play because thats foolish. And as you guys named before, you need a guy who has speed and strength to be OLB in the 3-4. Im starting now to regreat what I was saying about Jarvis Moss. I think he would be a good pick and exciting at that. Florida produces a lot of good guys, this year primarily defense. If we can get one of their monster D-lineman that would be good. So, for all the people out there im sorry I was a fool and said that we shouldn't draft Moss.

Now, my question is if it came down to the following three, who would you select?

Brian Leonard
Michael Bush
Kenny Irons

I believe that Leonard fits best with the team. He is a great guy and a leader, I want him but what do you think?

Michael Turner

Out of those 3, Bush has the most potential, but Leonard would also be good (remember Pennington used to throw to the FB a lot (Richie Anderson))

A great draft would be:

Blaylock
Jarvis Moss
Brian Leonard

If we go O-Line first round we can afford to have a "threat" as FB because he wouldn't need to block as much.
54milkman, we've been on the same page the last few posts. I agree with what you said.

[nyjetsguy27]

i still dont think that LB is what hurts our pass rush. in the 3-4, the DL is supposed to take up all 5 blockers, freeing up the LBs to roam around the field. they should be able to pass rush, drop back into coverage, shut down the run, everything. but when you have a DL like ours where all 3 guys get pushed back every down, you can have four ray lewises at LB and there still would be no pass rush. i think it would be nice to see a bigtime pass rushing LB taken, but only if we address DL as well, and only if no one else slips to us. if blaylock, a bigtime RB, a bigtime CB, or a bigtime DL slips to us round 1 or 2, then we have to go with that. if none of our targeted guys slips to us in round 1 or 2, then sure go with a passrushing OLB.

[throwback54milkman]

i still dont think that LB is what hurts our pass rush. in the 3-4, the DL is supposed to take up all 5 blockers, freeing up the LBs to roam around the field. they should be able to pass rush, drop back into coverage, shut down the run, everything. but when you have a DL like ours where all 3 guys get pushed back every down, you can have four ray lewises at LB and there still would be no pass rush. i think it would be nice to see a bigtime pass rushing LB taken, but only if we address DL as well, and only if no one else slips to us. if blaylock, a bigtime RB, a bigtime CB, or a bigtime DL slips to us round 1 or 2, then we have to go with that. if none of our targeted guys slips to us in round 1 or 2, then sure go with a passrushing OLB.

so who is the ideal guy for this?

[nyjetsguy27]

i still dont think that LB is what hurts our pass rush. in the 3-4, the DL is supposed to take up all 5 blockers, freeing up the LBs to roam around the field. they should be able to pass rush, drop back into coverage, shut down the run, everything. but when you have a DL like ours where all 3 guys get pushed back every down, you can have four ray lewises at LB and there still would be no pass rush. i think it would be nice to see a bigtime pass rushing LB taken, but only if we address DL as well, and only if no one else slips to us. if blaylock, a bigtime RB, a bigtime CB, or a bigtime DL slips to us round 1 or 2, then we have to go with that. if none of our targeted guys slips to us in round 1 or 2, then sure go with a passrushing OLB.

so who is the ideal guy for this?

my order of preferance for round 1 goes blalock and then carriker. id rather wait until round 2 to get a RB, probably bush. carriker alone would fix 1/3 of the DL problems, and would definately make an impact

[Young Nasty Man]

We can't just have Kerry Rhodes blitz every play because thats foolish. And as you guys named before, you need a guy who has speed and strength to be OLB in the 3-4. Im starting now to regreat what I was saying about Jarvis Moss. I think he would be a good pick and exciting at that. Florida produces a lot of good guys, this year primarily defense. If we can get one of their monster D-lineman that would be good. So, for all the people out there im sorry I was a fool and said that we shouldn't draft Moss.

Now, my question is if it came down to the following three, who would you select?

Brian Leonard
Michael Bush
Kenny Irons

I believe that Leonard fits best with the team. He is a great guy and a leader, I want him but what do you think?

Michael Turner

Out of those 3, Bush has the most potential, but Leonard would also be good (remember Pennington used to throw to the FB a lot (Richie Anderson))

A great draft would be:

Blaylock
Jarvis Moss
Brian Leonard

If we go O-Line first round we can afford to have a "threat" as FB because he wouldn't need to block as much.

Milkman I have a quesiton and its not to be sarcastic but may come out that way. Do you think its possible to get Blaylock, Moss, and Leonard?? I mean look, that would be unreal and I would definately cream my pants. We first need Blaylock to fall, which could possibly happen. After that I can see Moss falling to us becuase a lot of offensive guys are going to go. The only question is Leonard. I think he is highly rated and teams may jump on him. But if it happens that would be incredible. You can see how great we can be in the future............

Ferguson
Kendall
Mangold
Blaylock
Clement

Turner/Leon/
Leonard

our backfield has a combination of power and speed...thats what I call nasty....

[nyjetsguy27]

i would love the jets to go:

1-blaylock
2a-carriker
2b-bush

all 3 guys are possible reaches. tell me if you think that they will be on the board when we pick, and if you like all of them

[jetsfan3]

i would love the jets to go:

1-blaylock
2a-carriker
2b-bush

all 3 guys are possible reaches. tell me if you think that they will be on the board when we pick, and if you like all of them

It's a question mark on weather Blaylock is there, but I damn hope he is. Carriker will be around by then, I don't know about Bush though. That would be an outstanding draft.

[Zim3031]

I highly highly doubt the Jets will go for o-linemen with 3 straight first round picks.

[jetsfan3]

I highly highly doubt the Jets will go for o-linemen with 3 straight first round picks.

Why?

[throwback54milkman]

We can't just have Kerry Rhodes blitz every play because thats foolish. And as you guys named before, you need a guy who has speed and strength to be OLB in the 3-4. Im starting now to regreat what I was saying about Jarvis Moss. I think he would be a good pick and exciting at that. Florida produces a lot of good guys, this year primarily defense. If we can get one of their monster D-lineman that would be good. So, for all the people out there im sorry I was a fool and said that we shouldn't draft Moss.

Now, my question is if it came down to the following three, who would you select?

Brian Leonard
Michael Bush
Kenny Irons

I believe that Leonard fits best with the team. He is a great guy and a leader, I want him but what do you think?

Michael Turner

Out of those 3, Bush has the most potential, but Leonard would also be good (remember Pennington used to throw to the FB a lot (Richie Anderson))

A great draft would be:

Blaylock
Jarvis Moss
Brian Leonard

If we go O-Line first round we can afford to have a "threat" as FB because he wouldn't need to block as much.

Milkman I have a quesiton and its not to be sarcastic but may come out that way. Do you think its possible to get Blaylock, Moss, and Leonard?? I mean look, that would be unreal and I would definately cream my pants. We first need Blaylock to fall, which could possibly happen. After that I can see Moss falling to us becuase a lot of offensive guys are going to go. The only question is Leonard. I think he is highly rated and teams may jump on him. But if it happens that would be incredible. You can see how great we can be in the future............

Ferguson
Kendall
Mangold
Blaylock
Clement

Turner/Leon/
Leonard

our backfield has a combination of power and speed...thats what I call nasty....

I think Blaylock will fall to us only because guards usually aren't taken very early; if we can't get Moss then there are certainly a lot of OLB/DEs like him in this draft or we could go the Adam Carriker route. As for Leonard, his draft status will depend a lot on how he does in the combine- speed, strength, football IQ, etc. However, I really think he has more hype here than anywhere else in the country being from Rutgers, so there is definately a shot we can get him.

[Zim3031]

I highly highly doubt the Jets will go for o-linemen with 3 straight first round picks.

Why?

Because that is an awful high amount of money and draft picks tied up into the offensive line. We got the two most difficult positions on the line, no need to invest too much money in a position that can be filled in for simliar production with less cost.

[jetsfan3]

I highly highly doubt the Jets will go for o-linemen with 3 straight first round picks.

Why?

Because that is an awful high amount of money and draft picks tied up into the offensive line. We got the two most difficult positions on the line, no need to invest too much money in a position that can be filled in for simliar production with less cost.

I still disagree, because I'm all for the OLine, but you made a good points. The thing about Leonard is that if he falls, it's because he had bad a bad combine in which case I wouldnt want to take him. If he succeeds, he will be taken before our 2nd 2nd rounder.

[Number 10]

I'm hearing the Jets may give up the 1st and 3rd for Turner.

What would you guys think?

[AlexDown]

I'm hearing the Jets may give up the 1st and 3rd for Turner.

What would you guys think?

Is this the same person from which you heard Coughlin was fired?

Just messing with you a bit.

Jets need a run game, but giving up a 1st and a 3rd is pretty ridiculous in my opinion.

[Donno]

This is random but answer this, would the Jets trade with the Bears for this...

Bears Get - 26th overall pick
4th round pick

Jets Get - Lance Briggs - OLB
Thomas Jones - RB

[Number 10]

I'm hearing the Jets may give up the 1st and 3rd for Turner.

What would you guys think?

Is this the same person from which you heard Coughlin was fired?

Just messing with you a bit.

Jets need a run game, but giving up a 1st and a 3rd is pretty ridiculous in my opinion.

SNY reported it.

[throwback54milkman]

This is random but answer this, would the Jets trade with the Bears for this...

Bears Get - 26th overall pick
4th round pick

Jets Get - Lance Briggs - OLB
Thomas Jones - RB

isn't Briggs an unrestricted free agent?

[Number 10]

This is random but answer this, would the Jets trade with the Bears for this...

Bears Get - 26th overall pick
4th round pick

Jets Get - Lance Briggs - OLB
Thomas Jones - RB

isn't Briggs an unrestricted free agent?

He can be franchised and traded.

[GiantRutgersFan]

Would you guys like if the Jets traded both their second round picks for the giants first rounder (#20)?

[AlexDown]

Would you guys like if the Jets traded both their second round picks for the giants first rounder (#20)?

No.

[GiantRutgersFan]

Would you guys like if the Jets traded both their second round picks for the giants first rounder (#20)?

No.


Even if Quentin Moses or Marshawn Lynch is available at 20?

The picks are exactly even on the value chart

[jetsfan3]

I'm hearing the Jets may give up the 1st and 3rd for Turner.

What would you guys think?

O please no.

[nyjetsguy27]

I highly highly doubt the Jets will go for o-linemen with 3 straight first round picks.

the jets would definately take blalock if he dropped. if some decent OL slipped to us we definately wouldnt take him, but blalock is an elite and versatile OL. ha played OT for 3 years and OG for 1, and was amazing at both. he could play for either moore or clement, and maybe kendall when he moves on. with him our OL would be great for 15 years.

[nyjetsguy27]

I'm hearing the Jets may give up the 1st and 3rd for Turner.

What would you guys think?

the jets can get michael bush for a 2nd rounder. i think turner and bush are both gonna be pretty good. the most id ever give up for turner would be a 2nd rounder

[AlexDown]

Would you guys like if the Jets traded both their second round picks for the giants first rounder (#20)?

No.


Even if Quentin Moses or Marshawn Lynch is available at 20?

The picks are exactly even on the value chart

Thats fine. But its still two player prospects for one. And those two player prospects are in the second round.

[hcbrad08]

http://www.sny.tv/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070112&content_id=1419381&oid=36122&vkey=12
There's nothing on SNY reporting the Jets have made an offer for Turner, it says if they go after him that's what they'll have to give up.
The link above goes through the Jets positions and says positions of need and what the Jets could do to improve each position. Read it and post back: its short and a pretty good summary

[Zim3031]

I highly highly doubt the Jets will go for o-linemen with 3 straight first round picks.

the jets would definately take blalock if he dropped. if some decent OL slipped to us we definately wouldnt take him, but blalock is an elite and versatile OL. ha played OT for 3 years and OG for 1, and was amazing at both. he could play for either moore or clement, and maybe kendall when he moves on. with him our OL would be great for 15 years.

how do you know they would? Do you have an inside source with the team?

Taking Blaylock with our first rounder means we will have a LOT of money invested in the offensive line. LT and C are the only positions that require these elite prospects and we already filled them with some excellent players, the rest can be filled in with some blue collar guys that we develop. There's plenty of other spots on our team that need talent.

[Vilma the Animal]

http://www.sny.tv/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070112&content_id=1419381&oid=36122&vkey=12
There's nothing on SNY reporting the Jets have made an offer for Turner, it says if they go after him that's what they'll have to give up.
The link above goes through the Jets positions and says positions of need and what the Jets could do to improve each position. Read it and post back: its short and a pretty good summary
Pretty good. And I would hate trading our 2 seconds to the Giants unless it was for Marshawn, in which case I wouldn't be totally against it.

[nyjetsguy27]

I highly highly doubt the Jets will go for o-linemen with 3 straight first round picks.

the jets would definately take blalock if he dropped. if some decent OL slipped to us we definately wouldnt take him, but blalock is an elite and versatile OL. ha played OT for 3 years and OG for 1, and was amazing at both. he could play for either moore or clement, and maybe kendall when he moves on. with him our OL would be great for 15 years.

how do you know they would? Do you have an inside source with the team?

Taking Blaylock with our first rounder means we will have a LOT of money invested in the offensive line. LT and C are the only positions that require these elite prospects and we already filled them with some excellent players, the rest can be filled in with some blue collar guys that we develop. There's plenty of other spots on our team that need talent.

who else are you gonna wanna take then? lynch and AP will be long gone and carriker we can take in round 2. if an elite CB like revis slips to us than thats fine, but other than him i dont see anyone worthy of our round 1 pick. if you want to trade down thats fine with me, but i dont wanna waste it on some un-needed decent player if an elite OG/OT is on the board

[Zim3031]

I highly highly doubt the Jets will go for o-linemen with 3 straight first round picks.

the jets would definately take blalock if he dropped. if some decent OL slipped to us we definately wouldnt take him, but blalock is an elite and versatile OL. ha played OT for 3 years and OG for 1, and was amazing at both. he could play for either moore or clement, and maybe kendall when he moves on. with him our OL would be great for 15 years.

how do you know they would? Do you have an inside source with the team?

Taking Blaylock with our first rounder means we will have a LOT of money invested in the offensive line. LT and C are the only positions that require these elite prospects and we already filled them with some excellent players, the rest can be filled in with some blue collar guys that we develop. There's plenty of other spots on our team that need talent.

who else are you gonna wanna take then? lynch and AP will be long gone and carriker we can take in round 2. if an elite CB like revis slips to us than thats fine, but other than him i dont see anyone worthy of our round 1 pick. if you want to trade down thats fine with me, but i dont wanna waste it on some un-needed decent player if an elite OG/OT is on the board

The draft isn't for another 4 months, specifying an exact player at this point for the 25th pick is impossible.

however, we clearly need more talent in the defensive front 7, and there should be our primary targets. Not only a DE but some pass rushers.

[shavedaeyebrow2]

I know I will probably get ripped for this, but I am planning on trading one of my favorite players, Jonathan Vilma, in the Forum Mock. I wasn't intending on tradign him, but the offer I got was too good.

Jets Receive:
Pick #28
Redskins 2008 1st and 2nd
Carlos Rogers

Redskins Receive:
Pick #89
Jonathan Vilma

With this, we get a young stud CB, 2 first round picks, and 2nd for next year.
What I would like to do is take Adam Carriker with either 25 or 28, then take I don't know who to take. Posluzney and Willis are gone, and I know I need a new ILB, so idk when and where to take an ILB. Also, Dwayne Jarrett or Ted Ginn may fall to our first round picks. Should I take them?

So far, the trades I have done are...

Jets Receive:
Willis McGahee

Bills Receive:
Redskins 2nd
_______________
Jets Receive:
Marques Douglas DL

49ers Receive:
Brad Kassell

I could end up taking Blalock with him at 28, but I really need to address the ILB need. Should I attempt to trade for one, and if so, name a few good young 3-4 ILBs to replace Vilma.

[throwback54milkman]

I know I will probably get ripped for this, but I am planning on trading one of my favorite players, Jonathan Vilma, in the Forum Mock. I wasn't intending on tradign him, but the offer I got was too good.

Jets Receive:
Pick #28
Redskins 2008 1st and 2nd
Carlos Rogers

Redskins Receive:
Pick #89
Jonathan Vilma

With this, we get a young stud CB, 2 first round picks, and 2nd for next year.
What I would like to do is take Adam Carriker with either 25 or 28, then take I don't know who to take. Posluzney and Willis are gone, and I know I need a new ILB, so idk when and where to take an ILB. Also, Dwayne Jarrett or Ted Ginn may fall to our first round picks. Should I take them?

So far, the trades I have done are...

Jets Receive:
Willis McGahee

Bills Receive:
Redskins 2nd
_______________
Jets Receive:
Marques Douglas DL

49ers Receive:
Brad Kassell

I could end up taking Blalock with him at 28, but I really need to address the ILB need. Should I attempt to trade for one, and if so, name a few good young 3-4 ILBs to replace Vilma.

I don't think we're just gonna trade our "Quarterback" of the defense- how about we just do the Mcgahee trade and then draft a CB with our pick.

[Vilma the Animal]

I know I will probably get ripped for this, but I am planning on trading one of my favorite players, Jonathan Vilma, in the Forum Mock. I wasn't intending on tradign him, but the offer I got was too good.

Jets Receive:
Pick #28
Redskins 2008 1st and 2nd
Carlos Rogers

Redskins Receive:
Pick #89
Jonathan Vilma

With this, we get a young stud CB, 2 first round picks, and 2nd for next year.
What I would like to do is take Adam Carriker with either 25 or 28, then take I don't know who to take. Posluzney and Willis are gone, and I know I need a new ILB, so idk when and where to take an ILB. Also, Dwayne Jarrett or Ted Ginn may fall to our first round picks. Should I take them?

So far, the trades I have done are...

Jets Receive:
Willis McGahee

Bills Receive:
Redskins 2nd
_______________
Jets Receive:
Marques Douglas DL

49ers Receive:
Brad Kassell

I could end up taking Blalock with him at 28, but I really need to address the ILB need. Should I attempt to trade for one, and if so, name a few good young 3-4 ILBs to replace Vilma.

I don't think we're just gonna trade our "Quarterback" of the defense- how about we just do the Mcgahee trade and then draft a CB with our pick.
I actually think thats a good value, and as much as it pains me to say this, Vilma is semi-expendable for an amazing deal considering that the 3-4 doesn't play to his strengths anyway. HE could still be a beast in the 3-4 since he's incredible, but never as good as in the 4-3.

[hcbrad08]

you all are projecting too much without saying...
this would be ideal, great, awesome, realistic
I would say the Jets won't trade away a player like Vilma for nothing and the new Jets front office is going to command 1st rate picks and players and he wont be gone.
-Jets will go the draft route and wont do any trades until the draft so they can evaluate each NFL teams situation.
I would love...but i doubt it will happen
-Lynch
-Ugoh
-Carriker
-Bennet
-Ramirez
in the 1st 4 rounds

[shavedaeyebrow2]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

[jetsfan3]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

Don't forget we drafted Anthony Schlegel in the 3rd round last year.

[Young Nasty Man]

im a little confused with why you got Abdul Hodge...Besides that, it looks really good. I know its hard to get rid of Vilma because he is the "quarterback of the defense" but he doesn't fit in the scheme. Its the fact that he isn't used to it and he doesn't really have hte size to play the position. Its not easy giving him up, but if you get a trade like that, where you get a top 10 pick in this draft, you can really get a lot for your money. Its hard when Vilma is a great LB and has done really well for us in the past. But this is the still the rebuilding period so its not very easy. Its one of those quesitons where I don't know you can look the other way for.

[nyjetsguy27]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

Don't forget we drafted Anthony Schlegel in the 3rd round last year.

schlegel is absoluetly horrendous and will never amount to anything. hes basically a DT playing LB, hes way too slow and hes not good at all. there is no way hell ever be good.

[jetsfan3]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

Don't forget we drafted Anthony Schlegel in the 3rd round last year.

schlegel is absoluetly horrendous and will never amount to anything. hes basically a DT playing LB, hes way too slow and hes not good at all. there is no way hell ever be good.

Has he ever even played?

[josh07039]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

Don't forget we drafted Anthony Schlegel in the 3rd round last year.

schlegel is absoluetly horrendous and will never amount to anything. hes basically a DT playing LB, hes way too slow and hes not good at all. there is no way hell ever be good.

Has he ever even played?not much

[bigbluedefense]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

Don't forget we drafted Anthony Schlegel in the 3rd round last year.

schlegel is absoluetly horrendous and will never amount to anything. hes basically a DT playing LB, hes way too slow and hes not good at all. there is no way hell ever be good.

Has he ever even played?not much

I always wondered about him. I was big on him coming out, and I felt that the Jets made a great pick. Looks like so far he's not what I expected. The thinking behind the pick made sense. They knew they needed a run thumper next to Vilma so he could do his thing.

I think letting go of Vilma is dumb, give him an offseason to bulk up and get more adjusted to the scheme. He played 4-3 his whole life, you cant just "get it" right away. And he played better in the 2nd half of the season. Its a passive scheme, the ILB isn't supposed to be flashy in it. He'll be fine.

And having a ILB who can defend the TE is priceless, especially in a 3-4. That allows you to come with more SS blitzes, and you can have 2 DEs as OLBs and not suffer in pass coverage. His sideline abilities is also an important asset, it allows you to do more man coverage blitzes. Vilma will be an integral part of this defense, it would be a big mistake to let him go.

The true problem is you guys need a dominant NT. Right now, Robertson is playing well, but he's not a dominant NT. You need that Casey Hampton type who can swallow linemen and allow Vilma to roam free. Maybe Robertson can continue his new found success as a DE in the 3-4.

And whats intriguing is Pittsburgh switching to the Cover 2. That puts Hampton in a tight spot. If I were the Jets, Id try to pull off some kind of trade that would land him in a Jets uniform. Perhaps both your round 2 picks? I think he would be worth the investment.

[donnelpa]

this is what i think about the jets in the offseason. i really feel that defense is the biggest concern. as you can see, with brian schotty at the helms of our offense, we can utilize what hes got in order to put up points. i would love to have the best defense around that doesnt allow the run to go anywhere and shuts down the pass. i feel a great defense is a good offense. so here is what i think can happen:

ive heard that tomlin is gunna be the new steelers coach...no more 3-4 for them hes a cover 2 guy... therefore trade a good robertson/mccareins/and 3rd rd pick to them for Casey Hampton

sign Asante Samuel

sign Adalius Thomas

DRAFT:
Round 1- Patrick Willis: Vilma is a great football player period but in the 3-4 he hasta have another good middle linebacker in there to take up some blockers along with newly acquired hampton in the middle. Willis is a great guy whos gone through a lot but is so competative and has great skills. Along with Vilma and the 2 thomas', our linebackers will be incredible.

Round 2(a)- Adam Carriker: Kimo is gone after this year cuz he sucked. Carriker can be a great 3-4 end and with hampton and ellis will create a great d-line. Hes strong and has the size.

Round 2(b)- Brian Leonard: This is an ideal Mangini type player that not only can lead block, but also be a bruiser running back instead of wasting a pick on michael turner. With schotty callin plays, leonard will be utilized very well because of his blocking ability, running ability, and recieving skills. also penny doesnt have a strong arm as we all know so leonard outa the backfield will help a whole lot.

Round 4- Paul Williams: This guy has great size and speed. He is referred to as "freakish" by his coach. Will help out very much in the redzone with his size and leaping ability.

Round 5- Mansfield Wrotto: He was moved around a lot in college, but has a ton of potential. He could end up competing for a starting job with his size, light feet, and strength.

Round 6- Ken Shackleford: A huge guy with a ton of strength that can compete for the RT position. He played against the SEC and georgia lineman are usually good pro players.

Round 7- Quinten Echols: A decent sized d-lineman that is gunna be used jus for depth. We still will have hampton mosely and moore in front but can never have too many people at NT.

[Zim3031]

Timlin had Fat Pat and Kevin Williams in Minnesota, he'll find a place for Hampton to play.

[jetsfan3]

this is what i think about the jets in the offseason. i really feel that defense is the biggest concern. as you can see, with brian schotty at the helms of our offense, we can utilize what hes got in order to put up points. i would love to have the best defense around that doesnt allow the run to go anywhere and shuts down the pass. i feel a great defense is a good offense. so here is what i think can happen:

ive heard that tomlin is gunna be the new steelers coach...no more 3-4 for them hes a cover 2 guy... therefore trade a good robertson/mccareins/and 3rd rd pick to them for Casey Hampton

sign Asante Samuel

sign Adalius Thomas

DRAFT:
Round 1- Patrick Willis: Vilma is a great football player period but in the 3-4 he hasta have another good middle linebacker in there to take up some blockers along with newly acquired hampton in the middle. Willis is a great guy whos gone through a lot but is so competative and has great skills. Along with Vilma and the 2 thomas', our linebackers will be incredible.

Round 2(a)- Adam Carriker: Kimo is gone after this year cuz he sucked. Carriker can be a great 3-4 end and with hampton and ellis will create a great d-line. Hes strong and has the size.

Round 2(b)- Brian Leonard: This is an ideal Mangini type player that not only can lead block, but also be a bruiser running back instead of wasting a pick on michael turner. With schotty callin plays, leonard will be utilized very well because of his blocking ability, running ability, and recieving skills. also penny doesnt have a strong arm as we all know so leonard outa the backfield will help a whole lot.

Round 4- Paul Williams: This guy has great size and speed. He is referred to as "freakish" by his coach. Will help out very much in the redzone with his size and leaping ability.

Round 5- Mansfield Wrotto: He was moved around a lot in college, but has a ton of potential. He could end up competing for a starting job with his size, light feet, and strength.

Round 6- Ken Shackleford: A huge guy with a ton of strength that can compete for the RT position. He played against the SEC and georgia lineman are usually good pro players.

Round 7- Quinten Echols: A decent sized d-lineman that is gunna be used jus for depth. We still will have hampton mosely and moore in front but can never have too many people at NT.

What would our front 7 look like then?

LDE-Ellis
NT-Hampton
RDE-Carriker

OLB-Thomas
ILB-Willis/Barton
ILB-Vilma
OLB-Thomas

What do we do with Hobson? Who is better at the ILB position, Hobson or Barton or Willis? Is drafting Willis really necessary there? It gives us too much depth at the position, and I'd rather draft Olineman there.

[shavedaeyebrow2]

Guys, I hate to burst your bubble, but WE WILL NOT BE SIGNING ASANTE SAMUEL.

Bellichick (SP?) was pissed at Manginin for a few reasons. One of them being that he took Matt Chatham from the Pats. They have some agreement that coaches under Bill's pyramid of coaches (w/e it's called haha) can not go after players that the Patriots attempted to go after. I don't know how to explain it exactly, but Mangini will not make a dumb move to lose Bill's trust again after he just got it back.

[jetsfan3]

Guys, I hate to burst your bubble, but WE WILL NOT BE SIGNING ASANTE SAMUEL.

Bellichick (SP?) was pissed at Manginin for a few reasons. One of them being that he took Matt Chatham from the Pats. They have some agreement that coaches under Bill's pyramid of coaches (w/e it's called haha) can not go after players that the Patriots attempted to go after. I don't know how to explain it exactly, but Mangini will not make a dumb move to lose Bill's trust again after he just got it back.

Why does he care what Bill Bellichek thinks of him. This is the perfect chance to screw Bellichek. DO IT ERIC.

[Vilma the Animal]

Guys, I hate to burst your bubble, but WE WILL NOT BE SIGNING ASANTE SAMUEL.

Bellichick (SP?) was pissed at Manginin for a few reasons. One of them being that he took Matt Chatham from the Pats. They have some agreement that coaches under Bill's pyramid of coaches (w/e it's called haha) can not go after players that the Patriots attempted to go after. I don't know how to explain it exactly, but Mangini will not make a dumb move to lose Bill's trust again after he just got it back.
That's rediculous. If Mangini would put his relationship with that dick in front of the teams needs that would just be insane. Nobody would do that.

Edit: If it's for monetary reasons or another team gobbles up Samuel, then of course I'd understand not getting him. But if Mangini doesn't sign him cuz he doesn't want to get in a little fight and get his feelings hurt, then that would just be complete BS.

[josh07039]

Im not gonna quote anyone b/c your posts are too long, but saying we wont get Samuel because Mangini wants to maintain a relationship is ridiculous, firstly there is a chance the pats dont want him and secondly and more importantly Magnini cares more about making the team better than if the biggest jackass in the league likes him. The reason we might not get Samuel is that he wants to go back to the Pats and takes a pay cut or we don't want ot pay him.

[throwback54milkman]

Casey Hampton would be the greatest thing for the jets

[Vilma the Animal]

Casey Hampton would be the greatest thing for the jets
Agreed, but it would be stupid to get our hopes up.

[nyjetsguy27]

Casey Hampton would be the greatest thing for the jets
Agreed, but it would be stupid to get our hopes up.

exactly. people keep talking about signing asante samuel, getting hampton and turner and stuff, and all that would help us out trememdously, but the truth is most likely none of those are gonna happen. mangini is gonna stick to the patriots ways of signing lesser name guys and coaching them into allstars, then when their contract is up and theyre asking for huge money hell let them go. and i agree, the thing about mangini not going after samuel because belichick wouldnt want him to is absolutely the dumbest thing ive ever heard

[tishdog]

What do you guys think of trading a first rounder for Hampton. It probably won't happen but I feel that is great value for a late first rounder.

[jetsman309]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

[jetsfan3]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

[JETS5128]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

He's on the pats

[jetsman309]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

He's on the pats

Yea he is on the pats. I saw on a website that the Jets are going after him and assante samuel and that they are on the top of the Jets FA list. They said that if they sign Tully Banta-Cain they will look to trade Barton

[jmess15]

this is what i think about the jets in the offseason. i really feel that defense is the biggest concern. as you can see, with brian schotty at the helms of our offense, we can utilize what hes got in order to put up points. i would love to have the best defense around that doesnt allow the run to go anywhere and shuts down the pass. i feel a great defense is a good offense. so here is what i think can happen:

ive heard that tomlin is gunna be the new steelers coach...no more 3-4 for them hes a cover 2 guy... therefore trade a good robertson/mccareins/and 3rd rd pick to them for Casey Hampton

sign Asante Samuel

sign Adalius Thomas

DRAFT:
Round 1- Patrick Willis: Vilma is a great football player period but in the 3-4 he hasta have another good middle linebacker in there to take up some blockers along with newly acquired hampton in the middle. Willis is a great guy whos gone through a lot but is so competative and has great skills. Along with Vilma and the 2 thomas', our linebackers will be incredible.

Round 2(a)- Adam Carriker: Kimo is gone after this year cuz he sucked. Carriker can be a great 3-4 end and with hampton and ellis will create a great d-line. Hes strong and has the size.

Round 2(b)- Brian Leonard: This is an ideal Mangini type player that not only can lead block, but also be a bruiser running back instead of wasting a pick on michael turner. With schotty callin plays, leonard will be utilized very well because of his blocking ability, running ability, and recieving skills. also penny doesnt have a strong arm as we all know so leonard outa the backfield will help a whole lot.

Round 4- Paul Williams: This guy has great size and speed. He is referred to as "freakish" by his coach. Will help out very much in the redzone with his size and leaping ability.

Round 5- Mansfield Wrotto: He was moved around a lot in college, but has a ton of potential. He could end up competing for a starting job with his size, light feet, and strength.

Round 6- Ken Shackleford: A huge guy with a ton of strength that can compete for the RT position. He played against the SEC and georgia lineman are usually good pro players.

Round 7- Quinten Echols: A decent sized d-lineman that is gunna be used jus for depth. We still will have hampton mosely and moore in front but can never have too many people at NT.


I think we traded our 4th round pick for Barlow

[Vilma the Animal]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

WOOOW. If you haven't heard of him thats very surprising. Or maybe you just didn't watch the Jets playoff game because I swear he was in the backfield almost every play. He had such a beastly game against us.

[Vilma the Animal]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

He's on the pats

Yea he is on the pats. I saw on a website that the Jets are going after him and assante samuel and that they are on the top of the Jets FA list. They said that if they sign Tully Banta-Cain they will look to trade Barton
Barton's decent. What value do you think we could get for him in terms of draft picks? And also, if we trade Barton, do you think David Harris would be a smart later choice as LB depth and a compliment to Vilma? I think he could be better than Barton in the 3-4.

[tishdog]

What do you guys think of trading a first rounder for Hampton. It probably won't happen but I feel that is great value for a late first rounder.

bumping this for hope of an answer

[nyjetsguy27]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

WOOOW. If you haven't heard of him thats very surprising. Or maybe you just didn't watch the Jets playoff game because I swear he was in the backfield almost every play. He had such a beastly game against us.

i agree, he is an absolute freak of nature. yet again another example of belichick's/mangini's style of taking no-name guys and coaching them up to allstars

[nyjetsguy27]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

He's on the pats

Yea he is on the pats. I saw on a website that the Jets are going after him and assante samuel and that they are on the top of the Jets FA list. They said that if they sign Tully Banta-Cain they will look to trade Barton

what website is this on? i would love to see asante samuel a jet, and banta-cain would be nice too, its just that for the past few weeks newsday has been repeatedly saying that mangini and tannenbaum have said that they will look to improve the team mostly with the draft and barely with trades/FA. i would absolutely love to see the jets do these samuel/hampton/turner things, its just i dont see any of them happening

[jetsfan3]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

He's on the pats

Yea he is on the pats. I saw on a website that the Jets are going after him and assante samuel and that they are on the top of the Jets FA list. They said that if they sign Tully Banta-Cain they will look to trade Barton

what website is this on? i would love to see asante samuel a jet, and banta-cain would be nice too, its just that for the past few weeks newsday has been repeatedly saying that mangini and tannenbaum have said that they will look to improve the team mostly with the draft and barely with trades/FA. i would absolutely love to see the jets do these samuel/hampton/turner things, its just i dont see any of them happening

They could be smokescreening. And all of a sudden, boom, we sign Adalius Thomas and Asante Samuel. That wont happen, but I still see the Jets having a chance at Samuel.

[jetsman309]

I think we should go after Tully Banta-Cain instead of drafting a LB. He had a career high 5 1/2 sacks this year and should only be getting better. He would be a great fit in the 3-4

Never heard of him, where is he projected?

He's on the pats

Yea he is on the pats. I saw on a website that the Jets are going after him and assante samuel and that they are on the top of the Jets FA list. They said that if they sign Tully Banta-Cain they will look to trade Barton

what website is this on? i would love to see asante samuel a jet, and banta-cain would be nice too, its just that for the past few weeks newsday has been repeatedly saying that mangini and tannenbaum have said that they will look to improve the team mostly with the draft and barely with trades/FA. i would absolutely love to see the jets do these samuel/hampton/turner things, its just i dont see any of them happening

here is the link: http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/01/21/end_to_monkey_business/?page=5

just scroll down a bit and it says the jets.

[jetsfan3]

Jets in pursuit
The Jets are expected to pursue Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel, who tied Bailey for the NFL lead in interceptions with 10 this season, and Patriots linebacker Tully Banta-Cain, who had a career-high 5 1/2 sacks this season. Both are due to become unrestricted free agents.

Wow, I like it. I like it a lot.

[Young Nasty Man]

See I would really enjoy having Asante Samuel. I dont know if you guys are watching but he just scored a TD. I hate Banta-Cain but he would be an interesting acquisition. thats my own personal opinion. Im sure other people would say otherwise..

[throwback54milkman]

Pats dynasty= over

Jets dynasty= begun

[Jonathan_VIlma]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

Don't forget we drafted Anthony Schlegel in the 3rd round last year.

schlegel is absoluetly horrendous and will never amount to anything. hes basically a DT playing LB, hes way too slow and hes not good at all. there is no way hell ever be good.
That was a horrible assessment as you've obviously never seen him play. He's very good at coming up and filling so he doesn't need speed. How much speed do Mike Vrabel and Teddy Bruschi have? Very limited.

If we can get Casey Hampton, give them two first rounders, I really wouldn't care. If we can get that elite of a 3-4 nose tackle, we should be giving up the world for him.

[vilma]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

Don't forget we drafted Anthony Schlegel in the 3rd round last year.

schlegel is absoluetly horrendous and will never amount to anything. hes basically a DT playing LB, hes way too slow and hes not good at all. there is no way hell ever be good.
That was a horrible assessment as you've obviously never seen him play. He's very good at coming up and filling so he doesn't need speed. How much speed do Mike Vrabel and Teddy Bruschi have? Very limited.

If we can get Casey Hampton, give them two first rounders, I really wouldn't care. If we can get that elite of a 3-4 nose tackle, we should be giving up the world for him.
Hampton is good but Robertson is a better overall player and is younger. However Hampton fits our system better and Robertson is perfect in a 43 so a swap of the 2 could work for both. But if we threw in additional pick/players it would be bad for us.

[josh07039]

I would just like to take a moment and relish in Tom Brady and Bill Bellichik's failure. Let us all stop and smile at their absolute meltdown.

[throwback54milkman]

I would just like to take a moment and relish in Tom Brady and Bill Bellichik's failure. Let us all stop and smile at their absolute meltdown.

oh how sweet it is :D :D :D :D

good to see Belichek gave Manning the Mangini treatment after the game.

[josh07039]

I would just like to take a moment and relish in Tom Brady and Bill Bellichik's failure. Let us all stop and smile at their absolute meltdown.

oh how sweet it is :D :D :D :D

good to see Belichek gave Manning the Mangini treatment after the game.Im just so happy that the smug asshole won't be able to smile to himself and think hes a genius.

[throwback54milkman]

I would just like to take a moment and relish in Tom Brady and Bill Bellichik's failure. Let us all stop and smile at their absolute meltdown.

oh how sweet it is :D :D :D :D

good to see Belichek gave Manning the Mangini treatment after the game.Im just so happy that the smug asshole won't be able to smile to himself and think hes a genius.

unfortunately this probably means they will resign and pay samuel- he had a fantastic game, harrison did practically nothing. They gave up like 32 points in the 2nd half, they can't afford to lose one of their best players.

[josh07039]

I would just like to take a moment and relish in Tom Brady and Bill Bellichik's failure. Let us all stop and smile at their absolute meltdown.

oh how sweet it is :D :D :D :D

good to see Belichek gave Manning the Mangini treatment after the game.Im just so happy that the smug asshole won't be able to smile to himself and think hes a genius.

unfortunately this probably means they will resign and pay samuel- he had a fantastic game, harrison did practically nothing. They gave up like 32 points in the 2nd half, they can't afford to lose one of their best players.I don't really care it we get Samuel, it will be nice, if not I won't be that upset. I don't think tonight will necessarily make a huge amount of difference in retaining Samuel or not.

[nyjetsguy27]

I did the trade, awaiting approval. To replace Vilma, I got Abdul Hodge. He looked amazing when he started and will be a good fit at ILB in a 3-4. If I can take Carriker and Blalock, I would've solved all of the Jets problems!

RT Problem- Blalock (he is a OG/OT)
DE Problem- Carriker
ILB Problem (after fake Vilma trade)- Abdul Hodge
CB Problem- Carlos Rodgers
RB Problem- Willis McGahee

This is only after Rd. 1! It's looking pretty good right now.

*I doubt we ever trade Vilma in real life but this is aforum mock, so it couldd happen*

Don't forget we drafted Anthony Schlegel in the 3rd round last year.

schlegel is absoluetly horrendous and will never amount to anything. hes basically a DT playing LB, hes way too slow and hes not good at all. there is no way hell ever be good.
That was a horrible assessment as you've obviously never seen him play. He's very good at coming up and filling so he doesn't need speed. How much speed do Mike Vrabel and Teddy Bruschi have? Very limited.

If we can get Casey Hampton, give them two first rounders, I really wouldn't care. If we can get that elite of a 3-4 nose tackle, we should be giving up the world for him.

actually ive seen schlegel play about a thousand times, he doesnt have the speed and mobility, which is what i prefer for a 3-4 LB

[nyjetsfan15]

so freakin sweet that the pats lost.

[hcbrad08]

-Please stop putting up projections of trades that include marquee players like Vilma who led the team in tackles. (try and keep it to trading draft picks as the overall order is almost set).
-trades in the NFL don't occur like in other sports because there would be a huge cap hit in trading guys like Vilma and his big salary, sam for mcgahee, portis and everyone else.
-the season isn't completely over (well it is for the Patriots which makes me smile) so we should wait to project FA signings or trades til the superbowl's over and teams are allowed to talk with FAs.

What do you all think of trading down from the 1st to a team like the Bucs who have 2 2nd rounders. then we would have 4 2nd round picks; 2 at the top of the round and 2 toward the bottom. that's 2 prospects for 1 and we really are only trading down like 9 spots and getting another pick later in the 2nd.

I like it because it seems the Mangini guys (smart, hardworking, intangible guys) are more so in the 2nd and it would be better to trade down and grab those guys who can fill more holes than reach for someone who maybe merits a 2nd rounder instead of a 1st.

What do you think?

[hcbrad08]

ALSO I KNOW NO ONE IN HERE HAS PROBABLY SAID IT (BUT IF YOU DID PLEASE TELL ME WHY).....


BUT WHY ARE PEOPLE HAVING THE JETS DRAFT TEs?

[josh07039]

ALSO I KNOW NO ONE IN HERE HAS PROBABLY SAID IT (BUT IF YOU DID PLEASE TELL ME WHY).....


BUT WHY ARE PEOPLE HAVING THE JETS DRAFT TEs?before responding myself, why dont you tell me why we shouldn't.

[Rebeccasmc]

would any1 else be happy if we drafted michael bush 1st 2nd rounder?

[josh07039]

would any1 else be happy if we drafted michael bush 1st 2nd rounder?I wouldn't, but others would be. I want Brian Leonard.

[donnelpa]

Free Agents:
-Sign Asante Samuel- a shutdown corner that mangini is very familiar with. would be our #1 corner and with dyson backing him on the other side, we have a nice corner duo.
-Sign Max Starks from Pitt (maybe give up a 3rd)- this would solve a major problem at right tackle. starks is gigantic at 6'8 330 and is a force in the running game. it will pick up the slack from the others who are not that great at run blocking

Trades:
-Trade our 1st rd. pick to the Steelers for Casey Hampton--> move Robertson to DE

DRAFT:
Round 2 (a)- Anthony Spencer (DE/LB-Purdue): A workout warrior with great size and speed to be a our other 3-4 OLB. He has a nasty demeanor which our defense lacks and will blitz the crap outa opponents qbs. He is a workout warrior with great intangibles.

Round 2 (b)- Brian Leonard (FB/RB-Rutgers): Forget about this crap with Michael Turner, i mean he might end up being great but its uncertain-the chargers line is awesome and he plays against run down defenses that are tired from tryin to defend tomlinson, gates, and rivers. Leonard is an ideal mangini-type player who can solve our inside run issues and can lead block for washington. he can be a rb to complement leon and houston and can play fb along with hodgins. Hes also a great recieving threat and with penningtons weak arm can prove to be very valuable.

Round 4- Paul Williams (WR-Fresno St.): awesome athlete that can stretch the field along with coles and cotchery. i have a good feeling about this guy bc of his size and speed and intangibles.

*trade Justin McCareins for 4th rd pick
Round 4- Mansfield Wrotto (G-Georgia Tech): An interesting prospect because he started playing guard his senior year but is very strong and powerful and light on his feet. With the right coaching, could be a great pick up. Another option here is Andy Alleman because he is a workout warrior and could be a great guard at the pro level and improve our run game.

Round 5- Ken Shackleford (T-Georgia): Great size to provide depth on our o-line and could provide good competition at RT and can even move into guard. Played against great competition in the SEC as well.

Round 6- Adam Podlesh (P-Maryland): A satisfying pick for the true fan because if we need to punt, it will provide the defense with more security if the punter can boot into into their own 20 and beyond. Especially with the improvements to our defense in the offseason, i feel that special team s is a branch of defense that needs to be good as well. plus, ben graham is gettin older and maybe podlesh can learn under him for a year.

Round 7- Quintin Echols (DT-Kansas St.): Provides depth at NT and can learn from the best Casey Hampton. Hes a space eater in the middle of the defensive line.


This is what our team will look like in 07:
QB: Pennington;Clemens;Smith
RB: Rotation of Washington/Leonard/Houston
FB: Leonard/Hodgins/Ryan
WR1: Coles;Williams
WR2: Cotchery;Smith
TE: Baker;Ryan;Dreesen
LT: Ferguson/Jones
LG:Kendall/Wrotto/Shakleford
C: Mangold/?
RG: Moore/Wrotto/Shakleford
RT: Starks/Jones

NT: Hampton/Moore/Echols
DE: Ellis/Adams
DE:Robertson/Mosley
OLB: Spencer/Hobson
MLB: Barton/Kassel
MLB: Vilma/Schlegal
OLB: Thomas/Hobson
CB: Samuel/Miller
CB: Dyson/Poteat
FS: Between Coleman & Smith
SS: Rhodes

K: Mike Nugent
P: Adam Posdlesh

NEW YORK JETS WILL BE A FORCE IN 07!

[throwback54milkman]

Free Agents:
-Sign Asante Samuel- a shutdown corner that mangini is very familiar with. would be our #1 corner and with dyson backing him on the other side, we have a nice corner duo.
-Sign Max Starks from Pitt (maybe give up a 3rd)- this would solve a major problem at right tackle. starks is gigantic at 6'8 330 and is a force in the running game. it will pick up the slack from the others who are not that great at run blocking

Trades:
-Trade our 1st rd. pick to the Steelers for Casey Hampton--> move Robertson to DE

DRAFT:
Round 2 (a)- Anthony Spencer (DE/LB-Purdue): A workout warrior with great size and speed to be a our other 3-4 OLB. He has a nasty demeanor which our defense lacks and will blitz the crap outa opponents qbs. He is a workout warrior with great intangibles.

Round 2 (b)- Brian Leonard (FB/RB-Rutgers): Forget about this crap with Michael Turner, i mean he might end up being great but its uncertain-the chargers line is awesome and he plays against run down defenses that are tired from tryin to defend tomlinson, gates, and rivers. Leonard is an ideal mangini-type player who can solve our inside run issues and can lead block for washington. he can be a rb to complement leon and houston and can play fb along with hodgins. Hes also a great recieving threat and with penningtons weak arm can prove to be very valuable.

Round 4- Paul Williams (WR-Fresno St.): awesome athlete that can stretch the field along with coles and cotchery. i have a good feeling about this guy bc of his size and speed and intangibles.

*trade Justin McCareins for 4th rd pick
Round 4- Mansfield Wrotto (G-Georgia Tech): An interesting prospect because he started playing guard his senior year but is very strong and powerful and light on his feet. With the right coaching, could be a great pick up. Another option here is Andy Alleman because he is a workout warrior and could be a great guard at the pro level and improve our run game.

Round 5- Ken Shackleford (T-Georgia): Great size to provide depth on our o-line and could provide good competition at RT and can even move into guard. Played against great competition in the SEC as well.

Round 6- Adam Podlesh (P-Maryland): A satisfying pick for the true fan because if we need to punt, it will provide the defense with more security if the punter can boot into into their own 20 and beyond. Especially with the improvements to our defense in the offseason, i feel that special team s is a branch of defense that needs to be good as well. plus, ben graham is gettin older and maybe podlesh can learn under him for a year.

Round 7- Quintin Echols (DT-Kansas St.): Provides depth at NT and can learn from the best Casey Hampton. Hes a space eater in the middle of the defensive line.


This is what our team will look like in 07:
QB: Pennington;Clemens;Smith
RB: Rotation of Washington/Leonard/Houston
FB: Leonard/Hodgins/Ryan
WR1: Coles;Williams
WR2: Cotchery;Smith
TE: Baker;Ryan;Dreesen
LT: Ferguson/Jones
LG:Kendall/Wrotto/Shakleford
C: Mangold/?
RG: Moore/Wrotto/Shakleford
RT: Starks/Jones

NT: Hampton/Moore/Echols
DE: Ellis/Adams
DE:Robertson/Mosley
OLB: Spencer/Hobson
MLB: Barton/Kassel
MLB: Vilma/Schlegal
OLB: Thomas/Hobson
CB: Samuel/Miller
CB: Dyson/Poteat
FS: Between Coleman & Smith
SS: Rhodes

K: Mike Nugent
P: Adam Posdlesh

NEW YORK JETS WILL BE A FORCE IN 07!

that's obviously very optomistic, and probably unrealistic, but thats ok

and what's wrong wiht Ben Graham as our punter??

[Zim3031]

ALSO I KNOW NO ONE IN HERE HAS PROBABLY SAID IT (BUT IF YOU DID PLEASE TELL ME WHY).....


BUT WHY ARE PEOPLE HAVING THE JETS DRAFT TEs?

Both Mangini and Schottenheimer come from teams that build their offenses around the TE

[josh07039]

ALSO I KNOW NO ONE IN HERE HAS PROBABLY SAID IT (BUT IF YOU DID PLEASE TELL ME WHY).....


BUT WHY ARE PEOPLE HAVING THE JETS DRAFT TEs?

Both Mangini and Schottenheimer come from teams that build their offenses around the TEcmon man, i wanted him to give a reason before being graced with a response.

[Young Nasty Man]

Free Agents:
-Sign Asante Samuel- a shutdown corner that mangini is very familiar with. would be our #1 corner and with dyson backing him on the other side, we have a nice corner duo.
-Sign Max Starks from Pitt (maybe give up a 3rd)- this would solve a major problem at right tackle. starks is gigantic at 6'8 330 and is a force in the running game. it will pick up the slack from the others who are not that great at run blocking

Trades:
-Trade our 1st rd. pick to the Steelers for Casey Hampton--> move Robertson to DE

DRAFT:
Round 2 (a)- Anthony Spencer (DE/LB-Purdue): A workout warrior with great size and speed to be a our other 3-4 OLB. He has a nasty demeanor which our defense lacks and will blitz the crap outa opponents qbs. He is a workout warrior with great intangibles.

Round 2 (b)- Brian Leonard (FB/RB-Rutgers): Forget about this crap with Michael Turner, i mean he might end up being great but its uncertain-the chargers line is awesome and he plays against run down defenses that are tired from tryin to defend tomlinson, gates, and rivers. Leonard is an ideal mangini-type player who can solve our inside run issues and can lead block for washington. he can be a rb to complement leon and houston and can play fb along with hodgins. Hes also a great recieving threat and with penningtons weak arm can prove to be very valuable.

Round 4- Paul Williams (WR-Fresno St.): awesome athlete that can stretch the field along with coles and cotchery. i have a good feeling about this guy bc of his size and speed and intangibles.

*trade Justin McCareins for 4th rd pick
Round 4- Mansfield Wrotto (G-Georgia Tech): An interesting prospect because he started playing guard his senior year but is very strong and powerful and light on his feet. With the right coaching, could be a great pick up. Another option here is Andy Alleman because he is a workout warrior and could be a great guard at the pro level and improve our run game.

Round 5- Ken Shackleford (T-Georgia): Great size to provide depth on our o-line and could provide good competition at RT and can even move into guard. Played against great competition in the SEC as well.

Round 6- Adam Podlesh (P-Maryland): A satisfying pick for the true fan because if we need to punt, it will provide the defense with more security if the punter can boot into into their own 20 and beyond. Especially with the improvements to our defense in the offseason, i feel that special team s is a branch of defense that needs to be good as well. plus, ben graham is gettin older and maybe podlesh can learn under him for a year.

Round 7- Quintin Echols (DT-Kansas St.): Provides depth at NT and can learn from the best Casey Hampton. Hes a space eater in the middle of the defensive line.


This is what our team will look like in 07:
QB: Pennington;Clemens;Smith
RB: Rotation of Washington/Leonard/Houston
FB: Leonard/Hodgins/Ryan
WR1: Coles;Williams
WR2: Cotchery;Smith
TE: Baker;Ryan;Dreesen
LT: Ferguson/Jones
LG:Kendall/Wrotto/Shakleford
C: Mangold/?
RG: Moore/Wrotto/Shakleford
RT: Starks/Jones

NT: Hampton/Moore/Echols
DE: Ellis/Adams
DE:Robertson/Mosley
OLB: Spencer/Hobson
MLB: Barton/Kassel
MLB: Vilma/Schlegal
OLB: Thomas/Hobson
CB: Samuel/Miller
CB: Dyson/Poteat
FS: Between Coleman & Smith
SS: Rhodes

K: Mike Nugent
P: Adam Posdlesh

NEW YORK JETS WILL BE A FORCE IN 07!

ya kinda unrealistic. Casey Hampton is one of the top 3 NT's in the game and its not going to be easy to get him. Asante would be great but its going to be hard to get him if he tests the market. Also, Max Starks is another guy that I think Pittsburgh will resign. So it may be difficult to get these guys but that would ceratinly float my boat..

[jetsfan3]

Free Agents:
-Sign Asante Samuel- a shutdown corner that mangini is very familiar with. would be our #1 corner and with dyson backing him on the other side, we have a nice corner duo.
-Sign Max Starks from Pitt (maybe give up a 3rd)- this would solve a major problem at right tackle. starks is gigantic at 6'8 330 and is a force in the running game. it will pick up the slack from the others who are not that great at run blocking

Trades:
-Trade our 1st rd. pick to the Steelers for Casey Hampton--> move Robertson to DE

DRAFT:
Round 2 (a)- Anthony Spencer (DE/LB-Purdue): A workout warrior with great size and speed to be a our other 3-4 OLB. He has a nasty demeanor which our defense lacks and will blitz the crap outa opponents qbs. He is a workout warrior with great intangibles.

Round 2 (b)- Brian Leonard (FB/RB-Rutgers): Forget about this crap with Michael Turner, i mean he might end up being great but its uncertain-the chargers line is awesome and he plays against run down defenses that are tired from tryin to defend tomlinson, gates, and rivers. Leonard is an ideal mangini-type player who can solve our inside run issues and can lead block for washington. he can be a rb to complement leon and houston and can play fb along with hodgins. Hes also a great recieving threat and with penningtons weak arm can prove to be very valuable.

Round 4- Paul Williams (WR-Fresno St.): awesome athlete that can stretch the field along with coles and cotchery. i have a good feeling about this guy bc of his size and speed and intangibles.

*trade Justin McCareins for 4th rd pick
Round 4- Mansfield Wrotto (G-Georgia Tech): An interesting prospect because he started playing guard his senior year but is very strong and powerful and light on his feet. With the right coaching, could be a great pick up. Another option here is Andy Alleman because he is a workout warrior and could be a great guard at the pro level and improve our run game.

Round 5- Ken Shackleford (T-Georgia): Great size to provide depth on our o-line and could provide good competition at RT and can even move into guard. Played against great competition in the SEC as well.

Round 6- Adam Podlesh (P-Maryland): A satisfying pick for the true fan because if we need to punt, it will provide the defense with more security if the punter can boot into into their own 20 and beyond. Especially with the improvements to our defense in the offseason, i feel that special team s is a branch of defense that needs to be good as well. plus, ben graham is gettin older and maybe podlesh can learn under him for a year.

Round 7- Quintin Echols (DT-Kansas St.): Provides depth at NT and can learn from the best Casey Hampton. Hes a space eater in the middle of the defensive line.


This is what our team will look like in 07:
QB: Pennington;Clemens;Smith
RB: Rotation of Washington/Leonard/Houston
FB: Leonard/Hodgins/Ryan
WR1: Coles;Williams
WR2: Cotchery;Smith
TE: Baker;Ryan;Dreesen
LT: Ferguson/Jones
LG:Kendall/Wrotto/Shakleford
C: Mangold/?
RG: Moore/Wrotto/Shakleford
RT: Starks/Jones

NT: Hampton/Moore/Echols
DE: Ellis/Adams
DE:Robertson/Mosley
OLB: Spencer/Hobson
MLB: Barton/Kassel
MLB: Vilma/Schlegal
OLB: Thomas/Hobson
CB: Samuel/Miller
CB: Dyson/Poteat
FS: Between Coleman & Smith
SS: Rhodes

K: Mike Nugent
P: Adam Posdlesh

NEW YORK JETS WILL BE A FORCE IN 07!


What's wrong with Ben Graham?

Our back up center is Teague. Is he still even on the team? Because he could play RT for us until we find a replacement.

[jetvilma51]

Ben Graham's a beast

[hcbrad08]

ALSO I KNOW NO ONE IN HERE HAS PROBABLY SAID IT (BUT IF YOU DID PLEASE TELL ME WHY).....


BUT WHY ARE PEOPLE HAVING THE JETS DRAFT TEs?

Both Mangini and Schottenheimer come from teams that build their offenses around the TEcmon man, i wanted him to give a reason before being graced with a response.

That wouldn't have been my reasoning anyway. Baker was considered under-utilized this year. Hes a good TE with great hands, he had a very bland year but does not drop balls and has become a better blocker in the run game. Also the Jets have too many holes to fill to be drafting TEs in every other mock in the 2nd round. a 6th or 7th round 6'7'' TE wouldn't be awful but the Jets should address RB,CB,DL,WR,OT, OG before they even touch a TE in the draft. also do you really think a 6th or 7th round TE is going to be comparable let alone better than Baker and in a shallow pool of Tight Ends the Jets shouldn't draft one early when they have a bunch of other needs to fill.

[hcbrad08]

Free Agents:
-Sign Asante Samuel- a shutdown corner that mangini is very familiar with. would be our #1 corner and with dyson backing him on the other side, we have a nice corner duo.
-Sign Max Starks from Pitt (maybe give up a 3rd)- this would solve a major problem at right tackle. starks is gigantic at 6'8 330 and is a force in the running game. it will pick up the slack from the others who are not that great at run blocking

Trades:
-Trade our 1st rd. pick to the Steelers for Casey Hampton--> move Robertson to DE

DRAFT:
Round 2 (a)- Anthony Spencer (DE/LB-Purdue): A workout warrior with great size and speed to be a our other 3-4 OLB. He has a nasty demeanor which our defense lacks and will blitz the crap outa opponents qbs. He is a workout warrior with great intangibles.

Round 2 (b)- Brian Leonard (FB/RB-Rutgers): Forget about this crap with Michael Turner, i mean he might end up being great but its uncertain-the chargers line is awesome and he plays against run down defenses that are tired from tryin to defend tomlinson, gates, and rivers. Leonard is an ideal mangini-type player who can solve our inside run issues and can lead block for washington. he can be a rb to complement leon and houston and can play fb along with hodgins. Hes also a great recieving threat and with penningtons weak arm can prove to be very valuable.

Round 4- Paul Williams (WR-Fresno St.): awesome athlete that can stretch the field along with coles and cotchery. i have a good feeling about this guy bc of his size and speed and intangibles.

*trade Justin McCareins for 4th rd pick
Round 4- Mansfield Wrotto (G-Georgia Tech): An interesting prospect because he started playing guard his senior year but is very strong and powerful and light on his feet. With the right coaching, could be a great pick up. Another option here is Andy Alleman because he is a workout warrior and could be a great guard at the pro level and improve our run game.

Round 5- Ken Shackleford (T-Georgia): Great size to provide depth on our o-line and could provide good competition at RT and can even move into guard. Played against great competition in the SEC as well.

Round 6- Adam Podlesh (P-Maryland): A satisfying pick for the true fan because if we need to punt, it will provide the defense with more security if the punter can boot into into their own 20 and beyond. Especially with the improvements to our defense in the offseason, i feel that special team s is a branch of defense that needs to be good as well. plus, ben graham is gettin older and maybe podlesh can learn under him for a year.

Round 7- Quintin Echols (DT-Kansas St.): Provides depth at NT and can learn from the best Casey Hampton. Hes a space eater in the middle of the defensive line.


This is what our team will look like in 07:
QB: Pennington;Clemens;Smith
RB: Rotation of Washington/Leonard/Houston
FB: Leonard/Hodgins/Ryan
WR1: Coles;Williams
WR2: Cotchery;Smith
TE: Baker;Ryan;Dreesen
LT: Ferguson/Jones
LG:Kendall/Wrotto/Shakleford
C: Mangold/?
RG: Moore/Wrotto/Shakleford
RT: Starks/Jones

NT: Hampton/Moore/Echols
DE: Ellis/Adams
DE:Robertson/Mosley
OLB: Spencer/Hobson
MLB: Barton/Kassel
MLB: Vilma/Schlegal
OLB: Thomas/Hobson
CB: Samuel/Miller
CB: Dyson/Poteat
FS: Between Coleman & Smith
SS: Rhodes

K: Mike Nugent
P: Adam Posdlesh

NEW YORK JETS WILL BE A FORCE IN 07!

ya kinda unrealistic. Casey Hampton is one of the top 3 NT's in the game and its not going to be easy to get him. Asante would be great but its going to be hard to get him if he tests the market. Also, Max Starks is another guy that I think Pittsburgh will resign. So it may be difficult to get these guys but that would ceratinly float my boat..

Ben Graham is considered one of the best punters in the NFL and Mangini loves him bc they knew each other when Mangini was an Australian coach. Also teams dont draft punters for depth. Still i like where youre going addressing NT via trade.

[donnelpa]

ben graham is going to be 35...pretty old and if we bring in podlesh with his skills and being under graham for a year will make him hopefully jus as good as graham was.

[throwback54milkman]

ben graham is going to be 35...pretty old and if we bring in podlesh with his skills and being under graham for a year will make him hopefully jus as good as graham was.

you don't excactly need to be young to be a good punter

[Rebeccasmc]

any1 know who we're talking to at the senior bowl?

[tishdog]

Brian Leonard is looking great at Senior Bowl practice.

[josh07039]

Brian Leonard is looking great at Senior Bowl practice.I really wish I had NFL network.

[Jonathan_VIlma]

Too bad that offseason will never happen.

[derza222]

ALSO I KNOW NO ONE IN HERE HAS PROBABLY SAID IT (BUT IF YOU DID PLEASE TELL ME WHY).....


BUT WHY ARE PEOPLE HAVING THE JETS DRAFT TEs?

Both Mangini and Schottenheimer come from teams that build their offenses around the TEcmon man, i wanted him to give a reason before being graced with a response.

That wouldn't have been my reasoning anyway. Baker was considered under-utilized this year. Hes a good TE with great hands, he had a very bland year but does not drop balls and has become a better blocker in the run game. Also the Jets have too many holes to fill to be drafting TEs in every other mock in the 2nd round. a 6th or 7th round 6'7'' TE wouldn't be awful but the Jets should address RB,CB,DL,WR,OT, OG before they even touch a TE in the draft. also do you really think a 6th or 7th round TE is going to be comparable let alone better than Baker and in a shallow pool of Tight Ends the Jets shouldn't draft one early when they have a bunch of other needs to fill.

I think that was a reason to draft a tight end not against drafting one. As for the positions we need to address, WR is not more important than TE and the idea behind it is choosing the best player available. That is how you build a good team long term, and if there is no good RB, CB, 3-4 lineman, or OL available I don't think there is any problem with drafting a TE (although I'm a big fan of the trade down). If there is, then I'd rather go in that direction, but a tight end wouldn't be the end of the world if there's nobody at those positions available. And Chris Baker isn't bad but is far from elite. That said, if we don't pick Zach Miller we wouldn't get an upgrade and I'd wait till much later in the draft anyway.

[nyjetsguy27]

ben graham is going to be 35...pretty old and if we bring in podlesh with his skills and being under graham for a year will make him hopefully jus as good as graham was.

ben graham is one of the best punters in the nfl. punters can punt at least until they are 40. its not worth it to go for podlesh because he is so good that he might be a 4th round pick. we have a lot more needs than "punter of the future" in round 4.

[nyjetsguy27]

a lot of people are saying that we should go with blalock if he slips to us in round 1. i have no problem with that, because he can play both OG and OT, but i think that levi brown will be great too, and i think he will probably slip to us. he will be a great RT, and we would have an unstoppable line for years. heres what i think:

1-blalock/brown
2a-carriker
2b-michael bush

most likely at least on of the lineman will fall to us round 1, carriker should be there, and bush should be there too. what do you guys think? i would also love to see asante samuel signed too, and a trade for hampton, but thats all wishful thinking

[derza222]

a lot of people are saying that we should go with blalock if he slips to us in round 1. i have no problem with that, because he can play both OG and OT, but i think that levi brown will be great too, and i think he will probably slip to us. he will be a great RT, and we would have an unstoppable line for years. heres what i think:

1-blalock/brown
2a-carriker
2b-michael bush

most likely at least on of the lineman will fall to us round 1, carriker should be there, and bush should be there too. what do you guys think? i would also love to see asante samuel signed too, and a trade for hampton, but thats all wishful thinking

I'm not a big fan of 250 lb running backs that run like they're 200 and I'd rather have Tony Hunt there (Brian Leonard would be gone, he's really the guy I want at running back). Other than that it looks fine.

[Vilma the Animal]

a lot of people are saying that we should go with blalock if he slips to us in round 1. i have no problem with that, because he can play both OG and OT, but i think that levi brown will be great too, and i think he will probably slip to us. he will be a great RT, and we would have an unstoppable line for years. heres what i think:

1-blalock/brown
2a-carriker
2b-michael bush

most likely at least on of the lineman will fall to us round 1, carriker should be there, and bush should be there too. what do you guys think? i would also love to see asante samuel signed too, and a trade for hampton, but thats all wishful thinking
Not bad, but I GUARENTEE that Brown will not fall to us. If anything, with the lack of good tackles in this draft, Brown will go way higher than his value indicates. Almost no way he falls IMO.

[Zim3031]

Adam Carriker will not make it into the second round. With the way he is dominating in the Senior Bowl and with his excellent measureables, we will be lucky to see him at 25.

[Rebeccasmc]

this is what I would like for the jets next season.

QB - Chad Pennington
RB - Leon, Cedric, Irons (draft, Auburn, crossing my fingers he falls to 2b)
FB - Ovie Mughelli (ravens)
WR - Coles, Cotchery, Bennett (Titans)
TE - Graham (Pats)
LT - DBrick
LG - Wrotto (draft, Georgia Tech)
C - Mangold
RG - Moore
RT - Henderson (draft, fsu)

DE - Robertson, Brown (draft, Miami Fl.)
DT - Sands (oakland)
OLB - Thomas, Moss (draft, florida)
MLB - Vilma, Hobson
CB - Clements, Dyson
S - Coleman, Rhodes

i'm just a causal fan.

[Jonathan_VIlma]

Ternell Sands is too tall to be a nose tackle, but he could be a backup 3-4 end.

[jetsfan3]

I'd rather have Michael Bush then Brian Leonard (not by much) if they both fell to our second secound rounder. Without Bush's injury he's a top 20 pick, and I don't think the broken leg will have any affect on him next time he plays. I know it's good to have a 1-2 punch with Leon and Leonard but I think Bush can be great in the NFL and I wouldn't mind taking him over Leonard. Thoughts?

[derza222]

I'd rather have Michael Bush then Brian Leonard (not by much) if they both fell to our second secound rounder. Without Bush's injury he's a top 20 pick, and I don't think the broken leg will have any affect on him next time he plays. I know it's good to have a 1-2 punch with Leon and Leonard but I think Bush can be great in the NFL and I wouldn't mind taking him over Leonard. Thoughts?

Personally I think Bush is overrated by a few people. He has a great skill set but I'd be worried about a 250 pound back that shies away from contact anyway, let alone one coming off of a broken leg. Just my opinion.

[josh07039]

I'd rather have Michael Bush then Brian Leonard (not by much) if they both fell to our second secound rounder. Without Bush's injury he's a top 20 pick, and I don't think the broken leg will have any affect on him next time he plays. I know it's good to have a 1-2 punch with Leon and Leonard but I think Bush can be great in the NFL and I wouldn't mind taking him over Leonard. Thoughts?

Personally I think Bush is overrated by a few people. He has a great skill set but I'd be worried about a 250 pound back that shies away from contact anyway, let alone one coming off of a broken leg. Just my opinion.Word, you know who wont shy away from contact? Brian Leonard, unless of course hes hurdling someone.

[derza222]

I'd rather have Michael Bush then Brian Leonard (not by much) if they both fell to our second secound rounder. Without Bush's injury he's a top 20 pick, and I don't think the broken leg will have any affect on him next time he plays. I know it's good to have a 1-2 punch with Leon and Leonard but I think Bush can be great in the NFL and I wouldn't mind taking him over Leonard. Thoughts?

Personally I think Bush is overrated by a few people. He has a great skill set but I'd be worried about a 250 pound back that shies away from contact anyway, let alone one coming off of a broken leg. Just my opinion.Word, you know who wont shy away from contact? Brian Leonard, unless of course hes hurdling someone.

In which case, it looks way too cool for me to care. Seriously though, if we get a big back I want a pounder, i.e. Leonard or if we have to Tony Hunt.

[jetsfan3]

Any word on what the Jets may do in this draft or who they are looking/talking to? If you have any inside information don't post it but PM me because I would like to know. Last year I pretty much knew the pick would be Ferguson, but this year I have no idea in what direction they will go.