2012 Tennessee Titans Discussion!

[DoughBoy]

Rudd and Ringer to be placed on IR. Guess we will get to see some Jamie Harper now.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I know obviously we won't get all of these guys this offseason, but these are a bunch of guys that I hope our front office has their eyes on.
Current Offseason Wishlist
DRAFT
QB
(Matt Hasselbeck probably only gives us one more season after this year and the Rusty dynasty just wasn't meant to be. We could look to add a 3rd QB in the draft next year that could take over as the #2 when Hass retires or leaves in 2013)
- Brandon Weeden
- Ryan Lindley
- Russell Wilson
WR
(Obviously not a huge need as Britt will be back and Nate, Hawkins and D-Will have stepped up nicely in his absence, but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to use a middle rounder on a playmaker)
- Rueben Randle
- Jeff Fuller
- Nick Toon
- Greg Childs
- Kendall Wright
- Chris Owusu
- Juron Criner
TE
(In my opinion this is our second biggest need on offense outside of interior linemen. Jared Cook has so much talent, but he's so inconsistent and Stevens is little more than a blocker. A consistent TE could put this passing attack over the top)
- Coby Fleener
- Dwayne Allen
- Orson Charles
- Rhett Ellison
- Michael Egnew
OG
(Pretty obvious need position for an upgrade. Not only in talent, but I also believe that Harris and Scott are both FAs after this season. Could be wrong on that though)
- David DeCastro **!!!*!*!***! Sexy time!
- Barrett Jones
- Brandon Washington
- Kelechi Osemele
- Cordy Glenn
- Ryan Miller
- Lucas Nix
OC
(Eugene Amano duh-doy! This could be a position we go after in FA instead seeing as how there are probably only 2 centers in the draft that could be difference makers.)
- Peter Konz
- Mike Brewster
- Ben Jones
DE
(Probably actually our biggest need on the team. Could be tough to get an impact rusher where we'll be drafting at, so this is probably more likely to be a FA route instead. Plus I don't feel like this DE draft class is that great)
- Quinton Coples
- Melvin Ingram
- Malik Jackson
DT
(Interesting spot. We mainly just need depth here as Casey and Klug are playing great for rookies and Jason Jones could see some time here again if we drafted a premiere edge rusher. Shaun Smith is fat and old and Question Marks has never really done anything)
- Mike Martin
OLB
(Pretty big need IMO. McCarthy and Ayers should have the other two spots locked up for years to come but they could use a little more help. Witherspoon is long in the tooth)
- Zach Brown
- Luke Kuechly
- Kenny Tate (College safety turned WILL? Shades of Bulluck! lulz)
CB
(I like our corners so this is really only based on whether or not we re-sign Finnegan or if we move Tommie Campbell to safety)
- Omar Bolden
- Casey Heyward
SS
(Babs has played solidly but Hope** [forgive me TH] is probably done. Griffin could use an upgrade next to him to hopefully kick his rear into a consistent gear)
- Mark Barron
- T.J. McDonald
Free Agents
- Ben Grubbs
- Robert Meachem
- Mario Williams (Highly doubt the Texans would let him walk. Probable franchise tag situation)

[Complex]

Scott Mock Draft has us taking DeCastro!!!

I hope it happens then we draft Brewster in the 2nd round plus sign Ben Grubbs.
Tommy Streeter in the 3rd.

There is 3 really good DEs Campbell,Mario and Mathis but I am not to excited about him. We really need a pass rusher, why couldn't the Giants of drafted Morgan.

[TitanHope]

Guys, if we don't bring back Finny, I'll cry. I'll do it.

On the bright side, with Ruud on IR his career is officially done here. Kinda excited to see what Jamie Harper has in him.

It looks like DeCastro's declaring too! I've got a lot of faith on the coaches and FO, and after looking at Drew's list, I think this draft will be hard to mess up.

[CashmoneyDrew]

- Locker needs to finish out the season as starter
- I hope we lose out to have a better shot at a pass rusher or DeCastro
- This is f'ing embarrassing. Playoffs on the line and we get blown out by the worst team ever.

[Complex]

Derrick Morgan sucks, he is a useless player. He does nothing pass rush? nope and does not play the run either. I hope that Mike Munchak sees how ****** of a play Eugene Amano is and how bad our run blocking sucks. We have no pass rusher and we need a run stopper next to Casey.

[DoughBoy]

How the hell do you lose to a win less team when you have a shot at the playoffs? We totally **** the bed.

Locker should have been starting when Hasselbeck was gimping around in the first quarter.

Amano shouldn't even be on an NFL team, let alone a starter. There is not one ounce of kidding in that statement.

Pass Rush is laughable.

Michael Griffin can get his soft vagina out of here.

CJ should find a career as a ballerina.

AND **** the dumbass play calling. One of the worst secondaries in the league and we try to establish the run with our 32nd ranked attack? WTF.

[DoughBoy]

Also- Tommie Campbell is our best special teamer (outside of maybe Mariani) and he gets benched for mistakes (which I get)...but how in the **** does Amano still get to start when he is constantly getting pushed 5 yards into the backfield EVERY. SINGLE. PLAY. ? ******* infuriating.

[Babylon]

They've protected Locker too much down the stretch, probably cost them at least one loss maybe two.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Locker is definitely the best QB on the roster right now. Probably has been for at least a couple of weeks now. The offense just has more of a spark when he's in.

[islandboy843]

What makes it worse is that the Jets lose and we would be in the playoffs

[Pit Bull #53]

Play calling was atrocious. I think the blame has to go to both Palmer and Hasselbeck, who's arm is clearly shot. Just look at his YPA the last 6-7 games and I bet it's close to the worst in the league. We were running the same offensive calls as the Colts were during the game...swing passes, screens, quick hitches, etc.

[DoughBoy]

On a side note, Nate Washington is quickly becoming my new favorite Titan. I hope he rips Eugene Amano's ******* ***** off.

[Pit Bull #53]

Yep, Nate has earned his keeps this year. He's been a real gamer this year, especially the past few weeks battling through injury.

[TitanHope]

Also, Jake Scott deserves a lot of our hate. Like, I know we decided as a group in that meeting, "Hey, Eugene Amano. Like, what race is he? Lets hate him anyway!" But that Jake Scott. With his beard. ******* SHAVE ALREADY, alright? God.

Aw, **** everything. **** Peyton Manning and Dallas Clark debating life and politics or whatever the **** they're talking about on the sideline. **** Jason Babin and his 18 sacks in Philly. **** Derrick Morgan read and reacting all God damn day cause "Hey, I did this in college so I'm comfortable with it!" **** Derrick Morgan for making me **** Jason Babin. "One of the best acquisitions of the offseason!" WELL **** YOU JOHN BUCCIGROSS! NOBODY CARES!

Kim Jong-il is dead, the Iraq War over, and more importantly, I killed a dragon today on Skyrim - WITH MY BARE ******* HANDS - and my rage remains!

[Pit Bull #53]

If Derrick Morgan made me **** Jason Babin I'm pretty sure I'd hate him too, TH.

[Pit Bull #53]

I spent a couple hours beating the ever loving **** out of stuff with my war hammer on Skyrim and it made me feel a little better about today. And I called them obscenities as I smashed their faces in. That helped too.

[Complex]

Also, Jake Scott deserves a lot of our hate. Like, I know we decided as a group in that meeting, "Hey, Eugene Amano. Like, what race is he? Lets hate him anyway!" But that Jake Scott. With his beard. ******* SHAVE ALREADY, alright? God.


The reason I don't care or say much about Jake Scott is because he is gone after this season. Hopefully. Amano is here forever. o_o. Unless they cut him which I hope they finally do.

[TitanHope]

Well not a literal *******...

It was more emotional than anything.

[TitanHope]

Munchak announced he's gonna stick with Hasselbeck as the starter. 100% right decision, in my opinion.

It's Jacksonville and Houston. Two good defenses. Two division rivals. Lets not give them more tape on Locker, let alone first hand experience. Plus, what if Jake Scott breaks a hip and Alualu or Watt buries Locker, and Locker suffers a shoulder injury? What if two good defenses shake him up, which is the worst way for him to end the season (Ok, after playing at Washington, not likely to happen, but you never know)? It's two games. We all knew Playoffs were a long shot, a ton of upside has presented itself this year, and Locker has already proven that he's going to be a force (Dude has a QB rating of 99.4!). This season is a positive momentum boost regardless. Plus, what if we win two meaningless games and it knocks us completely out of range for DeCastro like Drew said?

If we had a chance at two WC slots and not just one, it'd be different. But I've thought the Jets had the best shot to win it since my 10,000 posts thread, and unfortunately that may come to fruition. Do we want to win two meaningless games, still miss the playoffs, risk losing out on an elite guard or passrusher, risk Jake Locker to injury or second guessing himself, or risk running Hasselbeck off this offseason?

I know we all got on to Fish for favoring vets instead of more talented younger players, but I think this is different. Munch has to be a politician. He smooth talked Hass this offseason. He sold the team and the opportunity. The Titans were a much better team this season than most believed we would be in large part because he signed here. What would that make him if he benched the dude when his usefulness ran it's course? What will the other vets think of a new head coach who did that? Plus, I love Locker, but coming in during the 4th QTR when there's nothing to lose and the opposing team hasn't gameplanned for him is different. It just is. This is why players hit sophomore slumps. They get put on film, studied, planned for, and all of the sudden, they don't look as good.

Don't get me wrong. Locker 100% gives us a better chance to win. Hass's arm is shot. Normally, if the running game was consistent, we could survive that. But defenses are able to contain CJ with their front 7. When that happens, the field gets more crowded. Defensive backs can focus on the passing game, and with no elite player, they can cover guys. So no running game and coverable receivers spells lack of success for a QB with a lack of arm strength. The field isn't going to be stretched, and the defense knows that. Pit Bull mentioned Hass's plummeting Y/A, but when you look at Y/A, you have to look at completion percentage. Y/A shows how far the passes are going, and completion percentage shows how often the pass is completed. Well, Hass's completion percentage has been good over the past 4 weeks - at 63.2%. But his Y/A has been 5.3. Suddenly, that completion percentage looks terrible. The ball is going nowhere. If Hass threw the ball 100 times at 5.3 Y/A at 63.2%, he'd have 334.96 passing yards. 100 ATTEMPTS! That's 3-4 games worth of attempts. This is why our offense looks completely hopeless at times.

Now you put in Locker who has a freaking ballistic missile attacked to his shoulder, and you open up the passing game. You factor in a mobile QB, and LB's are taken away from the running game to spy on him. You throw in a player who has all this on short notice, and he'll have success against any defense. It's what happened with VY in '06. Then in '07, VY got brought down to earth. That's exactly what I don't want to happen with Locker.

Locker will probably see time anyway. But I'm hoping it'll be like preseason. Hasselbeck starts, and depending on the situation in the 3rd or 4th, put Locker in. He's been great for a rookie, but we all knew he needed time. That didn't just disappear because of a few glimpses in garbage situations. Hass still has value to us beyond this season, even if it's in a backup role.

[TitanHope]

Ok, so maybe not 100% the right decision. Maybe like 90%. I dunno. Math was never my bag.

Oh, and CJ is questionable because of a bum ankle. I'd say we might as well shelve him too. He's not being a factor, and it's a miracle he hasn't been injured already.

And put me on the Nate Washington appreciation bandwagon too. Dude's a warrior.

[CashmoneyDrew]

We re-signed Quinn Johnson off of waivers again btw. Which is strange to me.... With Ringer out and CJ bumming, not to mention Ahmard Hall seems plenty healthy, shouldn't we have signed a runningback?

[stephenson86]

We re-signed Quinn Johnson off of waivers again btw. Which is strange to me.... With Ringer out and CJ bumming, not to mention Ahmard Hall seems plenty healthy, shouldn't we have signed a runningback?

Shouldn't we have kept Blount and not overpaid for CJ? We don't seem to know what we are doing in the backfield these days...

Met some Indianapolis Colts fans from Indiana in work today (I work in the airport) they had a good laugh at the fact we lost, so I just reminded them that their star player is never going to be the same again and they lost out on a home Superbowl...oh yea and that they had won one game all season. They soon shut up.

[Complex]

I doubt Blount would of done anything here this season. He can't run block or catch no way he is seeing the field on 3rd downs.Jared Cook doesn't play full time because he can't run block like Graham and Stevens.

[Fadetoblack]

nate washington's 140 yards away from 1000! you can do it nate!

[Pit Bull #53]

My opinion - you play the guy that gives you the best shot at winning, and you'll have a hard time convincing me that Hasselbeck gives us the best chance with the way he's playing. Cue Herm Edwards.

[Babylon]

nate washington's 140 yards away from 1000! you can do it nate!

Imagine what he would have done going against 2nd and 3rd corners for the whole season.

As for the Locker situation either way they probably are doing the right thing. As for playing him and subjecting him to unneeded hits remember he played at the UW, he's used to it.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Yay! One step closer to maybe not being letdown!

[Complex]

So we are back with a chance at the playoffs right?

[CashmoneyDrew]

If we win next week, the Bengals lose to the Ravens and the Jets beat the Dolphins... apparently we're in.

[Fadetoblack]

yeah we'd win the 3 way tie-breaker through common games.

If the jets choke, there's one other scenario that gets us in.

We win, cincy loses, and both oak and denver win. Denver would win the division, and then we'd win the 3 way tie breaker with oakland, and cincy. Once again through common games.

If there's a 4 way tie between us, NY, Cin, and oakland. It would come down to SOV, which will change with the last week, but Oaklands currently winning that pretty significantly.

[Fadetoblack]

Also if we make the playoffs, we'll be going against Houston. Which IMO would be pretty epic.

[Complex]

Also if we make the playoffs, we'll be going against Houston. Which IMO would be pretty epic.

If we get in I hope Matt gets hurt so Locker can play in the playoffs.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Game time! Let's get in to these playoffs and do some damage!

[Fadetoblack]

go oakland, denver, and baltimore!

[TitanHope]

Being a winning team feels good, man.

[Complex]

So it's official we are eliminated.

[Fadetoblack]

Damn you mark sanchez

[Complex]

Only 115 days till the draft.

[CashmoneyDrew]

**** all! Now we probably won't even get DeCastro either... :(

[Complex]

We can get draft Peter Konz now and replace Eugene.

[CashmoneyDrew]

We have a tough ass schedule next season.
Road: Texans, Colts, Jaguars, Bills, Dolphins, Packers, Vikings, Chargers
Home: Texans, Colts, Jaguars, Patriots, Jets, Bears, Lions, and Steelers

[DoughBoy]

That is brutal. Kenny will save us though.

[Fadetoblack]

We're gonna have the 20th pick, and i hope we finally beat the chargers next year.

[DoughBoy]

I hope the Texans are stupid enough to let Mario Williams test FA.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I hope the Texans are stupid enough to let Mario Williams test FA.

If that happens, I hope we make him ridiculously rich and hurt the Texans in two ways.

[Complex]

He might be a FA the texans have Conner Barwin and Brooks Reed at OLB so it's possible. Unless they move him to DE in the 3-4.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I would think if given the opportunity it would be highly likely he'd want to test the FA waters and maybe go to a team that runs 4-3. Seems to fit him better. I guess it all just depends on if the Texans franchise him and how the injury affects his status.

[DoughBoy]

So in titans news today-

Jerry Gray is interviewing for head coaching jobs and Mike Munchak has announced that there will be an open competition at QB next year.

[TitanHope]

So in titans news today-

Jerry Gray is interviewing for head coaching jobs and Mike Munchak has announced that there will be an open competition at QB next year.

Gray may just be a Rooney Rule candidate.

[Complex]

@jwyattsports says it's 50/50 whether Finnegan is back & Michael Griffin will not be back.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Titans are letting go of Marcus Robertson and the assistant secondary coach as well.

[DoughBoy]

@jwyattsports says it's 50/50 whether Finnegan is back & Michael Griffin will not be back.

It would absolutely stupid to let Finnegan walk. Griffin is replaceable and in all honesty, I think it is better for us if he goes..he is just so soft and inconsistent.

[DoughBoy]

Titans are letting go of Marcus Robertson and the assistant secondary coach as well.

The secondary was decent this year, but it could have been so much better. IMO McCourty,Verner and Finnegan are all quality starters at corner and we should have been ranked in the top 10 this year, if not top 5 (Not getting many turnovers this year probably didn't help Marcus either). On the brightside, I think we found 2 quality coaches in Tracy Rocker and Dave Ragone. I know the D-line didn't get many sacks, but Rocker did a great job with Klug and Casey. If we can get some talent at DE then we will see what he can really do. As for Ragone, I would give him an A+. I really didn't expect the WR core to be passable when Kenny wen't down, and he did a great job at developing the talent.

[MicktheGreat]

On the brightside, I think we found 2 quality coaches in Tracy Rocker and Dave Ragone. If we can get some talent at DE then we will see what he can really do. As for Ragone, I would give him an A+. I really didn't expect the WR core to be passable when Kenny wen't down, and he did a great job at developing the talent.

The Tennessean had a pretty good article a couple months ago about Dave Ragone and his impact on the Titans' young WR crew. From what I remember, Ragone basically brought a QB's perspective to the WR crew by trying to impress upon the young guys what a typical NFL QB looks for and expects on any given play (depending on the offensive play-call and the defensive scheme). I was skeptical of the Ragone hire; but, after reading this article, his approach seemed to make a lot of sense to me. If the WRs know what their QB is thinking and looking for, then they know where they need to be on any given play. It certainly seemed to make a difference this year, as Nate Washington had a career year and both Damien Williams and Lavelle Hawkins became solid contributors. Assuming that Kenny Britt can come back fully healthy, I really like our WR crew going into next season.

[Complex]

Dave Ragone should be a head coaching candidate for making Lavelle Hawkins relevant. He is a miracle worker.



You guys know how I am all over Tommy Streeter nuts well I just saw Brain Quick mini-game tapes on youtube. Well I hope we draft him instead of Tommy Streeter. We have a good chance of drafting him since we seem to take a freak athlete every year.

[TitanHope]

The Rams have been granted permission to speak with Ruston Webster, VP of Player Personnel, and Lake Dawson, VP of Operations, for their vacant GM position.

Rams could interview 2 more Titans - Yahoo (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AnImjOi4IycED.er4Dga8NdDubYF?slug=ap-ramssearch)

It's speculated that this could be a bid to win over Jeff Fisher to come there, but Fish worked with Webster for only one year and Dawson for four, so I'm not sure they'd be puppet GM's. I think Webster would be a slam dunk hire for them though, and both guys are former Seahawks so they know the division.

[DoughBoy]

I wonder if Fisher would take anyone besides those 2 from our current staff? The only one I can think that has ties to him is Dave McGinnis....bet he would get an interview for a DC spot if Jeff decides to clean house. I don't wish Chuck Cecil on anyone though.

[Complex]

Are any of those guys important to us? Like were they a important part of our last draft and picking the people we picked.

[DoughBoy]

Both of them are highly involved in scouting. Would be a huge blow if we lost either one. Ruston is involved in college scouting and Lake is involved in pro scouting if I remember correctly.

[Complex]

Oh then Fisher better stay away.

[DoughBoy]

I really want to see the Tits trade up in the draft to get DeCastro, I just have no faith whatsoever that he is going to make it to 20. I feel that we are just a elite player away on the D-line and O-line away from being a scary team, and if we identify someone that fits the bill I wish they would do whatever is in the power to get it done.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Agreed Doughie. I think the chances of him falling past the Cowboys are slim. The chances he then makes it past the Bengals is close to 0.

[Complex]

The #Titans have requested permission to talk to Cowboys safeties coach Brett Maxie for their vacant spot at secondary coach

Maybe he is a good secondary coach that lacked talent? I hope

[Complex]

Munchak also said he could see the team taking an offensive lineman as early as the second or third round, since the Titans haven’t focused on that area in the draft for the past few years.

I’m doing some paraphrasing here, but Munchak said the Titans might well look toward the defensive side of the ball in the first round, trying to find a “difference maker.”

http://blogs.tennessean.com/titans/2012/01/11/titans-could-lean-toward-defense-with-first-round-pick/



At least he knows our weaknesses

[CashmoneyDrew]

Dammit. I want an o-lineman in the first. I'm really not in love with this defensive line and safety class at all.

[Fadetoblack]

I agree, i want decastro in the worst way. But on the bright side, at least he's acknowledging it's a problem, and it should be the end of the harris-amano-scott show.

[TitanHope]

Dammit. I want an o-lineman in the first. I'm really not in love with this defensive line and safety class at all.

Hopefully we can find a SS in FA and pair him with Babineaux.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Laron Landry for the right price maybe?

[DoughBoy]

Tyvone Branch is also a FA.

[TitanHope]

Landry or Branch would totally work and probably have the least questions about them. Jim Leonard would be a solid stopgap for a season, but he's fragile and will be coming off knee surgery. Bryan Scott could work too, but he's kinda a SS/OLB hybrid. I'm a big Tanard Jackson fan too, but he's been nothing but trouble off the field.

[Complex]

Tenard signed a extension if I remember right. Landry or Tyvone Branch(who I like alot) with Babineaux would be good.

BTW I read about Brett Maxie, he helped with the converting of Alan Ball and Gerald Sensabaugh from corner to safety. I don't know if its good or bad, I know Alan Ball sucks but Gerald Sensabaugh did shut down Wes Welker most of the game when he on that hot streak so he can't be that bad. It could mean that we are moving Tommie Campbell to safety(I hope).

Landry or Branch and Babs with Tommie Campbell in the waiting would be good. I think we could sign Branch to a long term deal but he is from NY so he could sign with the NYJ and Landry could be looking for a 1 year deal or to get paid like a top safety.

[Fadetoblack]

The #Titans have agreed to terms with tight end Craig Stevens on a new four-year contract, according to sources
The deal for Stevens is for 4 years, and is worth roughly $15 million #Titans

Would've liked to have seen finnegan as the #1 priority but whatever, good signing and nice that it's out of the way.

[Complex]

The Titans have offered Cowboys assistant Brett Maxie a job as secondary coach after an interview this week. He would replace Marcus Robertson, who was fired last week.

Hopefully he is a good coach.

[TitanHope]

Kinda meh on re-signing Craig Stevens. Can't believe we spent a 3rd RD'er on a slightly better version of Ben Hartsock.

Don't know much about Maxie (the name sounds familiar), but if we hire a safeties coach, why not just bring back Cecil as DB Coach? He sucked as a DC, but just because he failed at coordinating doesn't mean our DB's weren't playing great when he was coaching them. That was when we had 3 Pro Bowlers in the secondary. And Frank Bush failed miserably as Houston's DC, but we snatched him up to coach LB's quickly. My guess is Fisher will snag him up for that spot when he takes over St. Louis though, and I'm guessing if the report about Gregg Williams joining him is true (which only makes me mad as a Titans fan since Williams had a shot coming here when Schwartz left, but Fish said he wouldn't give his son a spot on the staff, which led to him going to New Orleans and us promoting Cecil), then Dave McGinnis could follow suite to coach LB's.

[Complex]

Titans Name Brett Maxie Secondary Coach

[TitanHope]

*shrug* I've yet to be disappointed by Munch's coaching staff decisions, so I trust Maxie will work out.

[Complex]

Ruston Webster is taking over as Titans GM and Mike Reinfeldt is moving to COO in some front office shuffling done by team. - Jim Wyatt


The Tennessee Titans promoted Mike Reinfeldt to Senior Executive Vice President/Chief Operating Officer after serving as the team’s General Manager for the past five seasons, and Ruston Webster was elevated to Executive Vice President/General Manager after serving two seasons as the Titans Vice President of Player Personnel. Additionally, Lake Dawson has been promoted to Vice President of Player Personnel


http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Titans-Elevate-Reinfeldt-to-Chief-Operating-Officer-Webster-to-General-Manager/06a2bb0f-3d3f-4190-89c1-a0a106cd54cb

I guess Dawson is staying with us.

[stephenson86]

The thing I like about Munch, the guy seems to be ******* smart.

[Complex]

Would you guys be against drafting Janzen Jackson?

[CashmoneyDrew]

If he's got clean urine, I can't say I'd be disappointed.

[TitanHope]

Ruston Webster is taking over as Titans GM and Mike Reinfeldt is moving to COO in some front office shuffling done by team. - Jim Wyatt




http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Titans-Elevate-Reinfeldt-to-Chief-Operating-Officer-Webster-to-General-Manager/06a2bb0f-3d3f-4190-89c1-a0a106cd54cb

I guess Dawson is staying with us.

All well deserved, and the longer we keep this trio together, the better we'll be.

[TitanHope]

Hey guys. Remember months ago when I brought up a certain sleeper I wanted to draft in BB's forum mock?

...a sleeper I like in LB Bobby Wagner..

In that time, Scott has spotlighted him and he just went in the 3rd RD of the current forum mock.

So I just wanted to say... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

[Docta]

NFL Draft Scout has him in the top 50, and they even have him ahead of Burfict.

[CashmoneyDrew]

More reason for us to start that website TH! ;)

[Complex]

We are about 30 million under the cap. If we cut Amano we will have more than 30 million dollars in cap room. We better sign some lineman. Sucks that Mario Williams is the only pass rusher available besides Mathis but I don't really like him. The draft sucks for pass rushers too unless you run a 3-4.

BTW Dave McGinnis is leaving for Jeffery.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I would love to hit defense heavy in free agency so we can pretty much focus on offense in the draft. Great year for interior offensive lineman, receivers and even a few good tightends we could use.

[Complex]

I just want Amano gone and us drafting Brian Quick and Janzen Jackson. All that happening plus the titans trying Tommie Campbell at safety would make me happy.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Tommie Campbell is probably staying at corner for now. Especially with it looking like Finnegan won't be back.

[TitanHope]

I know there's hope about drafting a DE or signing a guy like Mario Williams in FA, but if I had my ideal, it'd be to trade for Osi Umenyiora. I'd send the Giants a 2nd RD pick in this draft for him. He's exactly the type of player that could put the DL over the top.

NFL Draft Scout has him in the top 50, and they even have him ahead of Burfict.

Don't think I'd go that far, but when Utah St. played Auburn, he was the best defensive player on the field. He struggled a bit at times in coverage, but the dude was blowing up plays and rushing the passer solidly all day.

More reason for us to start that website TH! ;)

Taking web design classes AS WE SPEAK!

Especially with it looking like Finnegan won't be back.

/wrist. I want him to be a Titan for life. Maybe we can bring in Brent Grimes or something.

I'm starting to get a creepy suspicion that our 1st RD pick will be a CB... :(

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm starting to get a creepy suspicion that our 1st RD pick will be a CB... :(

God help us all.

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/19/f344849bf221458d91fad055213cfcd4/l.jpg

[Pit Bull #53]

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2012/word-muth-breaking-down-titans

Article breaking down the OL individually. Basically says Jake Scott was the worst lineman, both OTs are excellent, Harris is an above average blocker that just needs to cut down penalties, and Amano would be easily replaced.

Sounds like we need a new RG and C. Which most of us knew in the first place. But this reinforces the point.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Scott and Harris both have expiring contracts correct? If we upgrade center and right guard I could live with re-signing LeRoy Harris. We should cut Amano for sure though.

Never mind. Read the article and we still have Harris under contract one more year. Unfortunately since it appears DeCastro is out of reach, my strategy for the o-line would be to let Scott walk and then cut Amano. Then I would try to sign the best offensive guard in free agency that I could. Then I would heavily consider drafting Peter Konz in the 1st round of the draft.

[TitanHope]

Scott was our biggest liability. He has the mental aspect, which a guy like Harris lacks, but he just doesn't have the athletic ability anymore. Even for a RG. He struggled to engage blockers at the second level. A lot of times I'd see him get to the LB's or the opposite side DE who was coming around and totally miss the block, and then CJ's being tackled and Scott's either turning around to see the defender make the play or he's fallen over on the ground after whiffing. Sometimes the defender doesn't even have to make an athletic maneuver to dodge Scott. It's simply a matter of speed and Scott not having enough to have a proper angle to the defender. It's exactly the worst fit for a speedy back like CJ.

Harris is my ultimate frustration. He should be a rock solid starter at LG. How you can have enough physical strength to hold your own as a C against Haloti Ngata, and also have the athletic ability to pass-block San Fran's 3-4 OLB's as a RT, but somehow be brutally average at LG just boggles my mind.

Amano probably does get too much flack, and I think he deserves a chance to show how he can perform without a liable RG and inconsistent LG next to him. But he still gets blown back too consistently (the article says he sets up late, which is true, and while his ability to rebound and still set the block is admirable, getting pushed back 3 yards and then setting the block is still disrupting the play, whether it's a run or pass). Amano lobbied extremely hard to move from LG to C when Mawae left, but if we drafted Konz, I think Amano at LG, Konz at C, and Harris would be an upgrade over Harris-Amano-Scott. Not having to snap the ball may help him set up quicker. Hopefully our dreams of DeCastro or an uber FA come true though.

[Fadetoblack]

http://nfltitans.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/titans-gm-talks-draft-free-agency-at-lipscomb/
“My immediate goal is to help improve our offensive line and our defensive front seven. That’s going to be our focus moving forward into free agency and the draft. If we can do that – get a little bit more of a pass rush and run the ball a little better — I think we’ll be okay.”

But also said in his interview with Mike Keith that the two most talented positions in the draft this year are defensive line and wide receiver. He wants to improve d-line and thinks it's the most talented position in the draft. So which d-lineman do you think we'll be taking??

[CashmoneyDrew]

I think the defensive lineman in this draft suck, personally. Especially at end.

[smittyjs]

So It's expected cortland will not to be back? I thought we would be signing him to a longterm deal.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Apparently Jim Wyatt has been talking with him and some people within the organization and it seems like they are both far apart on what his considered value is. He was also apparently insulted by their contract extension offers in training camp which is why he stormed out of practice one day.

[mightytitan9]

It was my understanding (thru various sites and speculation only) that the titans would Franchise Finnegan and then use that to extend their time to resign him.

I love Finnegan's play and his attitude, I want him to be a Titan. I think he got burnt last season some due to a lack of pass rush and poor safety play and while I don't think he's a top 5 CB in the league, I do think he's top 10 guy.

As far as pass rush goes, the draft is mediocre this year so free agency may be our best option to improve that part of our defense. Robert Mathis is probably the best pure pass rusher available, and a guy I actually like. He's had 9.5 sacks this past season and 9.5 or more every season except once since 2004 (the exception was when he had 7.0 in 07).
In addition, Dwight Freeney is set to make $14 million dollars this year and the Colts may choose to let him go if they decide to let everyone else go. At this point in their careers, I think I'd Mathis over Freeney.
Another option is John Abraham. He's getting up there in age, but is still an explosive pass rush talent thats explosive in stopping the run.
Cliff Avril is an interesting guy. I don't think he's the talent the above guys are, but he's also between 5-9 years younger. He's gotten helped by the solid interior play from the lions the past two seasons, and the jury is still out on him. I wouldn't give him a huge contract for this reason.
Andre Carter is another guy I'd be interested in, he's a solid pass rusher and is familiar with Gray's system. He's getting up their in age though.
Of Course, Mario Williams is the elite talent but I think he'll get too much to even consider
If we really want to take a small chance, bringing in a 3-4 LB to play DE for us may be a smart choice. Anthony Spencer has really been a bust since being drafted to Dallas, but in my opinion he was never meant to be a 3-4 guy and should have been kept as a 4-3 DE.
Manny Lawson A physical freak of nature, he's a rare talent. He's spent most of his career as a LB, but did play some DE in college. He's only posted 16 career sacks, but in the right system he could be signed cheap and play DE.
Bryan Thomas was another DE in college that was moved to 3-4 LB. He's had a decent but lackluster career as a LBer but could have a short career at DE.
Quentin Groves is a speed rusher and former Jaguar. They busted on him and Derrick Groves, not to mention others. I believe it had to do with development. He most recently played LB for the Raiders, but I think he'd be worth a small deal to try at DE.

I will post our DB options later
There is some solid guys in the draft like Vinny Curry. We could sign a veteran to a 2-3 year deal and draft someone to add depth and talent.

[CashmoneyDrew]

A veteran DE in FA and Malik Jackson in the 4th please! :)

[mightytitan9]

I'm really starting to think that may be our best option, I know getting a 30-34 year old DE isn't the sexy signing, but if they can still double digit sacks I think it's a good signing. And they'll likely come on a 3 year deal with a lower signing bonus rather than signing Mario who will make bank.

From the film I'm not a huge Malik Jackson fan, (will watch more film as draft gets closer) but I'd take a serious look at Cam Johnson in the 2nd or 3rd. Learning from a guy with similiar skills (any of these smaller de's I have listed) would benefit him. I also like Jacquis Smith (missouri), donte' paige-moss (NC). I also really like Bruce Irvin (WV), and Adrain Hamilton (Prairie View A&M, Next Robert Mathis)

[DoughBoy]

Malik Jackson is a sexy hunk. Also, Im a big Jared Crick fan and I just love the thought of him and Karl klug on the field together on 3rd down .

[CashmoneyDrew]

When watching Malik Jackson you just have to take into account that he was playing out of position for most of this past season on the inside. He also wasn't playing with very much talent or experience around him. I think he'd be a great number 2 LE for his first couple of seasons and he could slide inside with Jason Jones on passing downs if need be. I really like his upside long-term.

[mightytitan9]

I really like Crick too, his motor along with Klug would be a great combination. My only concern is that he may not be there round 2 for us because I think a 3-4 team will fall in love with him.

If we could keep Jones and rotate him between DE and DT and sign a guy like Mathis or Abraham while drafting Crick our D-Line would look like this:

DE: Jones, *Crick
DT: Casey, Smith
DT: Klug, Marks
DE: *Mathis, Morgan

I think that'd be a pretty good D-Line, if nothing else on effort alone. Although, I really think we may cut Smith and put that money towards resigning Jones or signing another DE. (Smith has no signing bonus so he can be cut without penalty)

[Complex]

Webster says #Titans about $35 million under salary cap

Webster says Kenny Britt recovery going well and could be back by training camp

Webster says front seven on defense and interior of offensive line are priorities, as well as secondary

On Cortland Finnegan, Webster spoke to agent briefly at Sr. Bowl and talks could continue in near future

[mightytitan9]

Yeah, at least the Titans are talking to Finny, they aren't interested in bringing back Griffin at all (can't really blame them)

[Complex]

RT @JosinaAnderson: Stanford Routt's agent William Vann McElroy told me, "Stanford already has visits planned with Buffalo and Tennessee."

[TitanHope]

RT @JosinaAnderson: Stanford Routt's agent William Vann McElroy told me, "Stanford already has visits planned with Buffalo and Tennessee."

Getting Stanford Routt would be awesome, and would definitely soften the blow if we lose Finny.

Also, remember to cite the source, even if it's from Twitter.

[Complex]

In addition to CB Stanford Routt, Raiders FS Michael Huff, DT Tommy Kelly, DT John Henderson, CB Chris Johnson, and OG Cooper Carlisle are candidates for release.
Routt was simply the canary in the coal mine. New GM Reggie McKenzie made it clear last week that he would make moves to adjust a roster with "out of whack" contracts. Huff ($4 million salary + $4 million bonus), Kelly ($6 million), Henderson ($4 million), and Johnson ($3.5 million) could be on the way out as the Raiders overhaul a defense that set franchise-worst records for TD passes allowed, yards per carry, yards passing and total yards.

Source: CSN Bay Area

Lets get Mike Huff to replace Griffin.

BTw I think Stanford Routt is better than Finny.

[Complex]

The Titans are now reportedly beginning preliminary discussions with free agent DL Jason Jones on a contract extension.
It's a reversal from the club's attitude over the past month, when all signs pointed to Jones walking after he struggled mightily at defensive end in DL coach Tracy Rocker's scheme. It's not clear if the Titans want him back at tackle or end. The Rams are a logical fit if Jones does make it to the open market.
Source: Titan Insider

[mightytitan9]

Good news. Personally, I like Finnegan better than Routt, but I think a decision between the two is really just personal opinion. I like Finny's attitude and aggressiveness which gives him the edge.

I like Tommy Kelly too, if he came at a decent price i'd entertain the idea. Jones is a very good player, I think he's better at DT which would really eliminate the need to sign Kelly.

Michael Huff would be a nice addiiton to replace either Griff or Hope, since he can play both positions.

It really all comes down to money though, I'm not wanting to overpay for any of them. But if they come at a fair price, I'm all for it

[CashmoneyDrew]

Apparently we've extended Mike Otto and Lavelle Hawkins according to Jim Wyatt.

[DoughBoy]

Getting Mike Otto back was tops on my priority list.

[mightytitan9]

The Titans are reportedly interested in letting Otto compete for a starting job at Guard

[DoughBoy]

Velasco> Otto

[mightytitan9]

I'd be pretty disappointed if we had to start Velasco or Otto at Guard this season. I'm really like DeCastro, Konz and Zeitler in this draft. I also think Bruce could help Brewster from Ohio State be a very good pro.

A guy like Joe Long might be worth taking in the 7th or signing as a UDFA too

[Complex]

Reportedly Finny rejected a 4 year 28 million dollar deal last year. Stanford Routt just signed a 3 year 20 million dollar deal. Maybe we could of just signed him instead cause it looks like Finny is not coming back.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Jim Wyatt said Finny already has his home up for sale...

[DoughBoy]

Keith Bulluck how I miss the. Dude would be in the HOF had he played in NYC his whole career. Dont any of you tell me diffrent!

[smittyjs]

Have we already released griffin or was did his rookie deal already run it's time? Man at time griffin looked great and then it was time where he almost looked as bad as Lamont Thompson? Ok maybe not that bad lol

[CashmoneyDrew]

Yeah, his contract is expiring. At first it sounded as if they were not at all interested in bringing him back, but with Finny more than likely gone and the safety free agent/draft class being so poor, I wouldn't be surprised to see him franchised.

[mightytitan9]

It would probably be safe to franchise Griff and then go ahead and try to sign a guy like Branch, Landry, Nelson, Huff if released. Then we can trade / take the tag off Griff.

[CashmoneyDrew]

The main positive of franchising Griff is just keeping him on a one year contract. That way if the quality of the center fielder type of safeties gets better in free agency and/or the draft, then you can upgrade from him easily. Even though I'm kind of moving away from the old school train of thought that the two safeties should play vastly different roles.

It's just tough to find safeties who can cover well, and play against the run consistently. Eric Berry-types are rare and the overall safety quality in the entire league is extremely low. It might be the worst overall position in the league.

[Complex]

I hate Griffin so much, if we double his salary by franchising him, I will be so mad. IDK who I hate more Amano or Griffin. One is the 2nd or 3rd highest paid center even though he is awful and the other one used to be good but is now scared of contact.

[The Alex]

I'm willing to trade whatever it takes to secure DeCastro in the draft. I'm that sold on him. Put him next to Roos or Stewart and watch the lanes part like the Red Sea.

[mightytitan9]

Even though I'm kind of moving away from the old school train of thought that the two safeties should play vastly different roles.

It's just tough to find safeties who can cover well, and play against the run consistently. Eric Berry-types are rare and the overall safety quality in the entire league is extremely low. It might be the worst overall position in the league.

Early in his career, when Griff still hit, I wanted him moved to SS and to go get a FS. Now that Griff won't hit anymore, that would be a horrible move

[mightytitan9]

I'm willing to trade whatever it takes to secure DeCastro in the draft. I'm that sold on him. Put him next to Roos or Stewart and watch the lanes part like the Red Sea.

DeCastro would be a solid pick, however I saw an interview with Munch that said the Titans wouldn't take a lineman 1st round because "the first round is for tackles, and we're set there"

I'd look for a couple guys, Kevin Zeitler, Amini Silatolu and Senio Kelemete in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

[The Alex]

DeCastro would be a solid pick, however I saw an interview with Munch that said the Titans wouldn't take a lineman 1st round because "the first round is for tackles, and we're set there"

I'd look for a couple guys, Kevin Zeitler, Amini Silatolu and Senio Kelemete in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

Wow, did he really say that? I hope he's just deflecting away the team's intentions because otherwise that is an incredibly ignorant thing to say.

Steve Hutchinson, Logan Mankins, Mike Iupati, Nick Mangold, Maurkice Pouncey, the list goes on of great interior linemen that have been selected in the first round. Granted, it's a rarity that a guard or center prospect warrants a high pick but when they do, they're absolutely worth it. I can't find a single first round interior linemen from the past ten drafts that didn't pan out.

[CashmoneyDrew]

"Webster said it's a great crop of defensive ends in this year's draft which fits his team's needs." - Jim Wyatt

Am I the only one that disagrees with this? I think it's a fairly crappy year for 4-3 ends in my opinion. I'm kind of hoping the Titans are just sending out smokescreens at this point because so far I'm thinking the opposite of this draft than they are. Pass rushers are poor, and interior o-line is elite and should be considered in the first.

[mightytitan9]

To me, only DeCastro or Konz should even be considered in the first. At DE, Coples, Perry, Ingram would all be reasonable at pick 20.

I really like Andre Branch and Vinny Curry, but I'm not sure if they hold value at #20.

I doubt DeCastro falls that far IMO, and I really do like Zeitler, and Amini Silatolu alot

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm not really a fan of any of the "top" DEs in this class for various reasons. I'd consider DeCastro, Konz, and even Cordy Glenn in the first round though.

[mightytitan9]

I'd actually probably prefer to trade down if possible and get a interior lineman or DE.

At 20, the only DE i'd probably take is Coples right now. I'm not a big fan of Perry or Ingram right now because they seem to rely too much on speed

[DoughBoy]

DT isn't a glaring need, but if Brockers or Poe fell to 20 I'd be on that like donkey kong.

[mightytitan9]

I'd consider Brockers, not buying the Poe hype

[CashmoneyDrew]

So lately I've been thinking about our second round pick more. I've come to the belief that if we do a good enough job of filling needs in FA and the 1st round, I might actually enjoy us taking a TE in the 2nd round of the draft if it's Fleener, Charles, or Allen. I like 2 TE sets, and I think it would add more to the offense than another wide receiver at this point. If Fleener somehow fell that far I don't think there should even be any hesitation.

[Pit Bull #53]

If we satisfy all other needs, maybe. But i'd put TE pretty far down the list as far as what we need to complete this team. If we are going to improve, there are some things that absolutely have to happen, the biggest one being improving the pass rush. Nick Perry is the guy thats really intriguing to me. It also wouldnt hurt to have another good linebacker at some point.

[diabsoule]

The Titans will have enough money in FA to go after Carl Nicks. If they could sign him and draft Peter Konz in the draft that offensive line would be one of the best in the NFL.

You could probably still have enough money to sign Rocky McIntosh and Tracy Porter along with other FAs, especially if you cut Weatherspoon and restructure Hasselbeck's deal.

[Complex]

I doubt we pick a TE early after signing Craig Stevens to a extension.

[TitanHope]

I doubt we pick a TE early after signing Craig Stevens to a extension.

Eh, I don't think having Craig Stevens ever decides any personnel moves. Stevens is an ST's/blocking TE, and really, is a glorified Ben Hartsock. We didn't break the bank for him, and considering the rookie would be taking Daniel Graham's roster spot, we'd have three TE's with all three having decent sized roles.

I've been wanting a really good all-around TE for a while now, but since Cook ended the season very strongly, I've softened. But as much as I like Cookie, he probably won't ever bring the blocking aspect to make him all-around elite. And subbing Cook, a primary receiver, for Stevens, a primary blocker, gives our already predictable rushing plays away (We ran off the fullback's side practically every play last year). That's on tape now. I don't care if we somehow add DeCastro, Konz, AND Nicks - If the defense knows it's a run, and they know which side they're running it off of, then CJ will continue to struggle.

At this point, I just want somebody who can do both at a startable level. If all of our needs are filled through FA and the 1st RD (1 elite pass-rusher/2 inside OL's/1 strong safety), then I'd be totally up for drafting Coby Fleener. He's my #1 TE in this draft, and I'm all for giving Locker all the weapons he'd ever need. Two TE sets with CJ in the backfield, Britt on the outside, and Locker's athletic ability would give defenses fits. I think we're looking at a pretty potent offense as it is, assuming we replace Scott with a stud.

But if all of our needs are met, then we'll be going BPA, so there's no telling who'll be available. But then again, Fleener would be an amazing value in the 2nd RD, so that may be a moot point.

[mightytitan9]

I think we gave Stevens 4m a year, that's a lot for him IMO.

Needless to say I think we have a lot bigger needs than TE

[TitanHope]

I think we gave Stevens 4m a year, that's a lot for him IMO.

Needless to say I think we have a lot bigger needs than TE

Still haven't a clue how his agent swung that. Hopefully it's backloaded like Beyonce.

The FO's move with TE's has always puzzled me. Hated the Craig Stevens pick, and thought a 3rd RD'er for him at the time was a tough bullet. Then sending a future 2nd RD'er to New England for Jared Cook came out of no where, and was just, if I remember right, two drafts after taking Stevens, who hadn't had a real opportunity yet with Scaife and Crumpler ahead of him. Then now, this Stevens re-signing for a guy who hasn't done much to speak of, and may not even be as good of a blocking TE to deserve that much.

I agree that it probably won't happen and other needs are much more pressing, and if we did have all those needs already addressed, going BPA at a position much more important than TE would probably be better, but still, I do think having either a strict receiving TE or strict blocking TE in at a time is extremely detrimental to the offensive gameplan (although good things would come out with both in together, since if you load Stevens's side, you take coverage away from Cook's side, and if you slide coverage to Cook's side, it means better angles for CJ). And if we can solve that, and add a weapon for Locker in the process, then it's a pick well used in my view. But perhaps this extension for Stevens is the coaches' way of saying they expect Stevens to really improve this season and onward.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Tyvon Branch is gonna be franchised. One less safety on the market for us.

[Complex]

That probably means Mike Huff will be cut, I wouldn't mind him here instead Griffin.

[mightytitan9]

Still haven't a clue how his agent swung that. Hopefully it's backloaded like Beyonce.

The FO's move with TE's has always puzzled me. Hated the Craig Stevens pick, and thought a 3rd RD'er for him at the time was a tough bullet. Then sending a future 2nd RD'er to New England for Jared Cook came out of no where, and was just, if I remember right, two drafts after taking Stevens, who hadn't had a real opportunity yet with Scaife and Crumpler ahead of him. Then now, this Stevens re-signing for a guy who hasn't done much to speak of, and may not even be as good of a blocking TE to deserve that much.

I agree that it probably won't happen and other needs are much more pressing, and if we did have all those needs already addressed, going BPA at a position much more important than TE would probably be better, but still, I do think having either a strict receiving TE or strict blocking TE in at a time is extremely detrimental to the offensive gameplan (although good things would come out with both in together, since if you load Stevens's side, you take coverage away from Cook's side, and if you slide coverage to Cook's side, it means better angles for CJ). And if we can solve that, and add a weapon for Locker in the process, then it's a pick well used in my view. But perhaps this extension for Stevens is the coaches' way of saying they expect Stevens to really improve this season and onward.

I agree the front office makes some questionable TE moves, although I like Cook and think he can develop into a top TE in the league. I think you can get decent blocking and pass catching TE's in FA or relatively late in the draft. I haven't looked much into Stevens' contract, but it just looks like a lot from a production standpoint, even if you figure he's a great blocking TE, on the open market teams don't pay big money for blockings TE's.

[mightytitan9]

That probably means Mike Huff will be cut, I wouldn't mind him here instead Griffin.

I agree, in the past few years I've really been kind of disappointed in us not taking the initiative to improve our DB in FA. In the past year I wanted Michael Huff, Carlos Rogers and Donte Whitner. All had good years, and outside of Huff, Rogers and Whitner came with a very reasonable price tag.

Huff's 2012 salary is fully guaranteed, but there is a $4m roster bonus due to him on the 16th. So if they keep him they'll be paying him $8m if they cut him they'll be paying him $4m

Some fans have thrown out moving Verner or McCourty to FS, resigning Babs and going out and getting a Cb in FA or the draft. While the draft is deep at CB, I'd rather get a CB that can move to S in the draft, Barron is the only S worth a first but we could get Kirkpatrick and move to FS.

I think moving a college CB to FS would be better than taking one of our proven CBs and moving them. We could move Campbell if needed

[CashmoneyDrew]

Take it with a grain of salt because it's Jason La Confora, but he's saying the Titans are mulling between tagging Jason Jones and Finnegan. I would think they'd have to be leaning towards Jones if this is true because he seems less likely to hold out if he got tagged. The only thing is, would he be tagged as an end or a tackle? The Titans would obviously prefer the cheaper option, but then Jones and his agent will probably argue for the more pricey one.

[TitanHope]

Hope you guys are safe and sound as all these tornadoes are hitting. One touched down not too far from me and took out the house of a friend of mine, but thankfully, she and her family are safe. Be careful out there.

[DoughBoy]

I got egg sized hail, only lasted about 15 seconds though. Everyone make a post so we know you are okay.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Shared this in the RDT, but I'll put it here as well...
This was supposedly a couple of minutes down the road from me.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/419285_338223282882104_100000833067003_870060_1513 222683_n.jpg

[Complex]

According to Adam Schefter twitter we are most likely going to tag Mike Griffin :(.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Makes sense to be honest. There is just absolutely nothing out there in terms of safeties on the FA market or in the draft. It's beyond sad.

Hopefully this also means they feel comfortable in striking a long-term deal with Jason Jones.

[TitanHope]

The caliber of a safety is greatly dependent on the DL in front of him, unless you're Reed or somebody. Griff was a playmaker back when the DL was dominant, and he's tapered off since. If we upgrade the pass-rush, we'll probably see an improvement out of him. So I'm fine with tagging him for a year and seeing if he improves with a better line in front of him, especially considering there's no real improvement over him available this offseason.

And if he doesn't make plays, we can move on. We're drafting a S regardless, if not just for depth concerns.

If JJ isn't retained, that probably cements DE as being our 1st RD choice...assuming there's not a ridiculous value elsewhere.

[xpmar9x]

Hopefully we can improve the pass rush and get the 2008 Michael Griffin back.

[vidae]

TH and CMD, just admit that Eric Berry is like sexual chocolate that you want to dip cookies in. It's time you just admit it.

[CashmoneyDrew]

TH and CMD, just admit that Eric Berry is like sexual chocolate that you want to dip cookies in. It's time you just admit it.

I thought it was common knowledge.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Anyways. I'm pretty disappointed we haven't cut any of our bums like Witherspoon, Amano, and Graham yet. Also, I've heard next to nothing on us re-signing Jason Jones which is also very disappointing.

[MicktheGreat]

Anyways. I'm pretty disappointed we haven't cut any of our bums like Witherspoon, Amano, and Graham yet. Also, I've heard next to nothing on us re-signing Jason Jones which is also very disappointing.

I agree with you on Graham and Jones; however, knowing the Titans, I'm not so surprised that Amano and Witherspoon are still around.

As much as it pains me to say this, I don't think we'll cut Amano. Munchak, Matthews, and company seem to believe in him; plus, they always talk about the importance of "continuity" on the OL, so I doubt that they'll want to replace anyone else after letting go of Jake Scott. Actually, I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Amano, if we moved him back to OG -- where he played much better. Like it or not, I think our OL will probably only have 1 new starter next year -- or maybe 2 new starters if Fernando Velasco really impresses in camp and somehow de-thrones Leroy Harris.

It also doesn't surprise me that we haven't cut Witherspoon. He's not a great player, but I also don't think he's as terrible as some others think. He's got some versatility because he can play all three LB spots, and he's got some experience in what is otherwise a very young DEF. Is he worth the amount that we're currently paying him? No. But I think this is similar to the Chris Hope situation last year -- over-paying for experience. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted his eventual replacement this year.

[mightytitan9]

I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Amano, it's just he's getting 5m/yr to be average.

Also, reports are Jason Jones is going to get 9m/yr on the open market. He's simply not worth that so I can't say I'm surprised we aren't talking to him.

I'd like for us to cut Graham, Amano, Smith, Witherspoon. It seems like the Titans would rather overpay someone than cut them.

[TitanHope]

At this point, there's no sense in cutting anyone. We're $30 million under the cap, so there's no need for cap casualties, and we haven't had the draft yet, so lets wait to draft a TE or LB before we cut a vet at the position.

I'm not sure who'd be crazy enough to pay $9 million/year for JJ. He's not an elite pass-rusher from the DE position, he's very injury prone, and doesn't have great production. He's been mostly a flash impact guy. I figured his agent would be after 5 years/$30 million dollars, which seems to be the typical contract for LE's. I am interested to see if Fisher goes after him, along with Finny, or if a 3-4 team wants him as a 1-gap 5-tech, which he'd be perfect for.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Are we still 30 mil under the cap? I figured we were more around 22-24 at this point after re-signing Otto, Hawkins, and then tagging Griff. Also, what's taking so long to re-sign Patrick Bailey and/or Tim Shaw? We know the Titans love em some special teams linebackers. Should be pretty standard signings.

I don't know. I just feel like the FO has been dragging their feet so far. Maybe I'm just anxious because it's been two years since a legit free agency due to last year's holdout debacle.

[TitanHope]

Forgot about Griff! Truthfully, I'm not sure where we are... The organization has one number, and the writers have another. And I think it's like a couple million dollar difference, but hopefully we're still in the upper $20 million range. Still, unless there are any bonuses due, we can afford to wait. I think Spoon and Graham's contracts are in their last year too, so that's completely cleared cap space next year anyway.

Also, me in my house when the Colts cut Manning:

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Also, I dunno who Lauren Bennett is, but wowie wow wow.

[Complex]

Kiper and McShay mock drafts have us taking

DeCastro

[mightytitan9]

According to this site, we have about 85m under contract for next year. The cap is projected around 120m so that would leave us with around 35m.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/cap-hit/

Complex: I'd love to get him that'd be a huge steal for us

[DoughBoy]

I so excited for FA! Even though we are probably just gunna sign Nakumara, Trufant and some mediocre DE. I want Grubbs and Mario Williams dammit! Just for once I want to know what it feels like to be a happy little boy.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Meh, I'm starting to feel like we'll just sign a couple of special-teamer types and maybe one mid-range type of starter. Can't say I'm too excited. I hope they prove me wrong though.

[TitanHope]

We need a solution at NB (BRING BACK ERIC KING!!!), so while it may seem like a small signing, it'll be important.

I assume since the FO and coaches basically kicked Finny out of the door, they are confident with ATV and McCourty on the outside. Even with Manning gone and having two young stud LB's in Ayers and McCarthy, NB will still essentially be a starter due to the importance of the passing game in today's NFL. We need to have 3 quality CB's.

They're reportedly close to re-signing Babs, who is versatile enough to play NB, but I'd prefer him to stay at strongside safety along with Griff at weakside. Plus, it'll be easier for a rookie to step in at NB than it would at S (Janzen Jackson, who's an ideal NB, in the 5th RD plox). Tommie Campbell's length would help him excel at it (ladiesssssss), like it does Woodson in GB, and he certainly has the size to help in run support. Him blitzing would be nightmarish if he ever got good at it. And I suppose Ryan Mouton still exists.

Marcus Trufant seems like an inevitable Titans signing. He's been cut, so he won't negatively affect our future comp. picks, pretty much the entire FO has ties to Seattle, and Hass and Babs could help recruit him. And if ATV or McCourty went down, he can play outside. But he's got injury concerns, I'm not sure how his skillset works inside, and frankly, I'd much, much, MUCH rather re-sign Finny. So bummed we're letting him walk, but like it or not, we usually get it right when it comes to letting our guys walk. If you can get by without a CB because you have two other good CB's, then it makes no sense to invest a lot of money in him when there are other needs.

Either way, we may see a fundamental shift in the FO's method of building the team caused by Manning leaving Indy, Locker taking over, and the shift of power with MR and RW. Fisher's mantra was to take down Indy: win the division, and to do that, you have to take down Manning. So, he built his teams that way. Control the clock, limit possessions, keep the scoring low, and win small. Now we have what looks like a future on offense, and Goliath is gone, so we may be more proactive than reactive.

Hopefully, they'll rather let Finny and JJ walk and combine that money to sign a guy like Mario Williams. I subscribe to the "If you're gonna invest good money in something, then get what you want even if it means you'll be paying a little bit more for it." You want the really nice recliner, then don't settle for a recliner you don't want just because it's $100 cheaper when you're already spending $300 (Is that how much recliners cost? Cause I dunno. JUST GO WITH THE ANALOGY!). When paying full price, money is better spent if you get what you want. If combined JJ and Finny were wanting $15 million/year, then give that money to the guy who can immensely improve JJ's spot at LE while helping the secondary where Finny is leaving...even if I do think Mario Williams is overrated. The FO says they want an impact pass-rusher. Be proactive about it and do it when the opportunity presents itself.

Nevertheless, I am surprised we haven't already re-signed role-players like Tim Shaw, Dave Ball, and Ahmard Hall, but I think there's a rule that if a guy got paid vet minimum, then you can't officially re-sign them before FA. That's what's holding up Babs's supposed deal.

[CashmoneyDrew]

******* Ryan Mouton. I had Jedi Mind Tricked myself into believing that he never happened. Why did you remind me TH?!?! WHY?!?!?!

[mightytitan9]

TitanHope, I think Hall is gone and Ball is considering retiring due to his back issues. If he plays next year I think it will be with the Titans, just not sure if he's going to.

In addition, I think the combined of Finnegan and JJ is going to equal around 17m/yr, while Mario reportedly wants between 12-15m/yr. I don't like investing that type of money in players, but I'd do it for him.

I fully expect us to sign Trufant (assuming he's healthy), him playing on the outside and Verner playing the slot. Tommie Campbell will be groomed to replace Trufant on the outside (opposite of McCourty, we will sign him to an extension) for the future. In the meantime, Campbell basically backs up every DB position

[mightytitan9]

Either way, we may see a fundamental shift in the FO's method of building the team caused by Manning leaving Indy, Locker taking over, and the shift of power with MR and RW. Fisher's mantra was to take down Indy: win the division, and to do that, you have to take down Manning. So, he built his teams that way. Control the clock, limit possessions, keep the scoring low, and win small. Now we have what looks like a future on offense, and Goliath is gone, so we may be more proactive than reactive.


This is what I've been thinking for a while, the AFC south is becoming more of a run first division. Even with Luck at QB, I don't think they'll be the same type offense they were under Manning.

If you watch Luck play, he played primarily under center in a west coast system filled with short timing routes. I think they'll try to even out the run and pass better than they did with Manning. I know people claim Luck is the second coming of Manning, but I don't see that happening.

With Pagano having a history in Baltimore, and the new GM having a history in Philadelphia, I am interested in seeing what exactly the new regime wants to do.

Needless to say, the only team that really concerns me in our division for the near future is the Texans. However, I think they are quickly exiting their window and entering a cap problem.

For the last 2 years I'd been saying the Colts window was quickly closing with Manning, Wayne, Clark, Saturday, Freeney and Mathis all getting up their in age. Little did I know in 2012 there's likely only going to be one of these players returning.

Houston is similar in my opinion, Schaub turns 31 and has been injury prone during his career. In addition, Schaub's contract expires after the 2012 season, so we'll see if the Texans want to invest in him or go with Yates or another guy. If Schaub resigns he'll likely get at least 10m/yr.
Andre Johnson turns 31 this season, and has also been somewhat injury prone over his career.
Chris Meyers and Mike Brisel are both free agents this offseason and I don't think they'll have the money to bring both, if either, back. They've also been talking about cutting Eric Winston, but I doubt they will.
Owen Daniels turns 30 and is also injury prone (i'm seeing a pattern)
They are losing Mario Williams, Antonio Smith turns 31.

Say what you want about our Titans, but I like the future of us in this division

[DoughBoy]

Hutchinson in a Titans uni would be sweet! and there is the whole Seahawks connection.

[mightytitan9]

I agree Doughboy, I just wonder if Munch and Bruce want to bring in a veteran that's set in his ways or if they want a rook they can teach. Since Hutch's way is a pro bowl way, I think they'd be ok with him...

[CashmoneyDrew]

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120311/SPORTS01/120311018/Titans-owner-Bud-Adams-wants-sign-Peyton-Manning

Is Bud senile at this point or is he up to something?

[DoughBoy]

Wasent expecting that to be honest.

[TitanHope]

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120311/SPORTS01/120311018/Titans-owner-Bud-Adams-wants-sign-Peyton-Manning

Is Bud senile at this point or is he up to something?

I think Bud's just stargazing, but on the flipside, if he's up for spending big money for a premium offensive player who's a free agent, then maybe he's not only open to acquiring a premium defensive player, whether through FA or a trade, but is actually pushing for it.

Either way, I'd love Manning. It's a Vols fan's wet dream behind the prodigal son returning to actually coach Tennessee. Despite the injury, he's probably got the same arm as Hasselbeck, but he's still got the football IQ that made him great. If the FO and coaches think the team can win it all next year with Manning at the helm, then there's no excuse not to attempt to sign him. Super Bowls trump future prospects, and I think Locker has the character to continue to wait. If not, then lets hand the keys over to Locker so he can gain the experience needed to lead the team when it's running fullsteam 3 years from now.

Also, keep in mind that we don't have a lot of money tied up into Locker. We lucked out and landed our QB in the Top 10 after the rookie wage scale came into place. We're not forcing a goldmine to sit the bench if it ever came to it.

I don't think this will get serious, but there is a lot to like about the Titans. Great supporting cast, familiar division, and knows the state. No suitor could match our WR-RB-OL combination. Only big thing would be if Palmer would agree to allowing Peyton adapt his offense.

Nevertheless, as much as I love hearing Bud is willing to open up his wallet so easily, it still disturbs me that not only is Adams still up to his intervenous ways, but he's still fine with going to the media with it. Telling Wyatt only puts more pressure on Webster and Reinfeldt, and I don't want the FO under more of a vice than they are.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'd love to know how Hasselbeck is feeling right about now. lol

[DoughBoy]

About how Id imagine Tebow feels. Bud Adams is still ******* insane though, why make those comments public?

[CashmoneyDrew]

About how Id imagine Tebow feels. Bud Adams is still ******* insane though, why my those comments public?

a) He wants to put on the appearance that he's trying to spend money and win championships, even if he really isn't.

b) It's a ploy to build fan support behind his idea that he legit believes in to gain even a little more leverage against a FO that probably actually wants no part of Manning. (I know he's the owner and can do whatever he wants, but still)

c) He's just senile.

[DoughBoy]

Btw, sorry about my terrible spelling, I've been posting from a phone for the last few weeks.

[Complex]

Terry McCormick of Titan Insider joins ESPN's Adam Schefter in expecting the Titans to "make a run" at free agent Mario Williams.
"I believe I first said that at the Senior Bowl," writes McCormick. The need for a pass rusher like Williams is apparent in Tennessee, and lack of cap space can't be an excuse. The Titans have plenty of money. They could use Williams at right defensive end, bookending former first-round pick Derrick Morgan.

-Rotoworld

Rather have Mario than Manning. Then again I don't want Manning.

[TitanHope]

We just gained $1.6 million in extra cap space for something something. It's can be spread over two years too. The bad news is so did everyone else, sans Redskins (got docked $30+ million), Cowboys (got docked $10+ million), Saints, and Raiders (both stayed same, I believe).

Per Schefter on the ESPN.

[CashmoneyDrew]

@AdamSchefter: Titans were preparing to make run at Houston's Mario Williams, and now organization has shifted its focus to try to sign Peyton Manning.

Damn. I'm not gonna lie. I really want Mario Williams. If we sign Peyton Manning though, I bet the rest of our cap will be spent on veteran interior lineman like Scott Wells and maybe Ben Grubbs.

[DoughBoy]

Any of you think we really have a shot at Peyton? Or do you think his visit is just a tip of the hat to UT and he really doesn't want anything to do with us? I am undecided.

[Complex]

******* Bud Adams ugh I hate him. I really want Mario damn him. Peyton is not going to win a SB with our ****** passrush.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Well, if the Manning meeting could happen fairly early tomorrow and he tells us thanks but no thanks, we could still have a shot at Super Mario.

[TitanHope]

Manning may mainly be meeting with Munch, since once he chooses where he wants to go, the whole contract talks may be just a formality (especially with Adams basically admitting to just that), but I bet Reinfeldt or Webster will probably be present for most of it too.

But we'll still have two from our trio (Reinfeldt, Webster, Dawson) working FA while he's here. So it's not like we're throwing all of our eggs into one basket. If there's one thing we know, it's Reinfeldt covers his bases. Now, Peyton will get face time with both MR and Webster just because he's Peyton Manning, but we basically have two GM's on staff with those two. It's like Hermione's watch doobly doo. Except these guys don't give Kal a boner.

We definitely have a shot at him. He wouldn't be coming here if we didn't, so just that in itself is promising. Personnel wise, there's a ton to offer. Like I said earlier, no one else can beat CJ2K-Britt-Roos. He went to UT and the weather is Goldilocks range, so edge for personal history and not being a cold weather stadium. The defense could be better, but I think he'll be more worried about the coaching staff and FO than defensive personnel because he knows that if he does his job, then it makes it all the more easier for the defense. That's where they'd have to win him. Prove to him that this is not only a talented team, but that he meshes well with the coaches and trusts their abilities as well as believing the organization at the top has what it takes to make a winner, keep a winner, and then obtain the ultimate goal.

God this is weird to talk about. Just imagining Manning playing a game as a ******* Tennessee Titan. The whole thing just seems surreal, it doesn't even matter that he's actually thinking about coming here or that the Titans are the best team seriously courting him. I just can't wrap my mind around it. We're not used to nice things just happening to us. We gotta work for it and reach for the workout warrior RB who goes for 2,000 yards, or reach on the bottomed out senior QB who makes the higher rated QB you passed over for him look like a waterboy, or reach on the LT who's been anchoring one side or the other since being drafted, or wait 5 years until the DT decides he wants to play to his potential, or take the risk of hiring your OL coach for the past two decades as your HC and have it pay off. I know we've had our share of success, but you can't say the team didn't have to work for it with one of the best QB's in NFL history bending the league over season after season. We're the only team to win the division outright away from a Manning-led Colts (TWICE FOO! TWICE!). I'm not gonna lie and say it wouldn't feel great to hear he signed with us.

But in the end, I just want players who help us win. I don't just want Mario Williams, Peyton Manning, and Carl Nicks or Grubbs. I want Nick Hardwick. I want Scott Wells. I want Ronald Bartell. I want to trade for Osi Umenyiora. I want Locker throwing bombs to Britt. I want CJ to dip his hips and made a defender go pinwheeling across the field. I want Derrick Morgan to make me look good after hyping him and notch a double-digit sack season. I want Chris Hope to come to my house, read me a story, and then gently rock me to sleep.

I guess the good thing about being an elligible bachelor or wondering what it'd mean for the promising young QB is that if things don't work out, we're still in pretty damn good shape. BUT MAYBE WE CAN STILL SIGN MARIO WILLIAMS ANYWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

[mightytitan9]

Can you imagine an offseason with Peyton AND Mario???

The one thing I think that lures Peyton here is the OL, franchise LT and RT. In Indy, Peyton always had smart players at the guard positions, not really the most athletic because Peytons a smart guy, he made his offensive line 10x better than they were talent-wise.

Realistically, the Titans have around 30m in cap space right now. What do you guys think Peyton would want for a season? He was signed to a 5yr 90m deal, which averaged 18m season. Do you guys think Peyton would take something like a 3 year 50m where he got around 13m the first season?

If that were the case, we'd then have 17m in cap space, cutting Hasselbeck would free up 5.5m I believe getting us back up to 22.5m. Which would leave us with enough to still get Mario.

If Peyton still had concerns about the offensive line, we could draft Konz, Zeitler, Solatuli or whoever. If we don't get Mario, we can sign a good OL and focus DE in the draft. We could take a guy like Andre Branch who has insane speed

[CashmoneyDrew]

So apparently we're bringing in Steve Hutchinson and strongly considering signing him. It's supposed to also be a pull for Manning since they're good friends.

I kind of thought he was washed up, but maybe if we stuck him between David Stewart and a good veteran center like Scott Wells or Chris Myers it might not be a bad pickup for spot-duty.

[mightytitan9]

Hutch is still a good guard, he is somewhat "washed up" however, his version of washed up is still a pro bowl caliber guard, he's just not all-pro anymore.

He's played on a pretty poor Vikings O-Line the past few years, but he's still a solid starter, and while he may not be the A+ grade I would have once given him, he's still a solid B+ in my eyes.

[Complex]

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N200BA

If any of you want to track Bud Adams plane.

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2012/3/13/2868178/obsessive-peyton-manning-watch-bud-adams-in-route-to-nashville

[TitanHope]

Hutch would be a signing similar to when we signed Jake Scott. I'm for it, much like frilly tooth picks.

Glad we signed Jordan Babineaux. Hopefully it's a nice one because he earned it, and I hear he's a great teammate.

Bummed about Tim Shaw, but Patrick Bailey is back and we can find another LB for ST's. May have to if Gerald McRath continues to sub in as a nickel LB.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Well according to Jim Wyatt, the Titans have targeted that safety from the Ravens who is a big special teamer. The asian guy. Don't feel like looking up his name, but I wanna say Nakamura.

[DoughBoy]

I swear if we lose JJ I might cry. Peyton or Mario would make me feel better though.

[TitanHope]

Well according to Jim Wyatt, the Titans have targeted that safety from the Ravens who is a big special teamer. The asian guy. Don't feel like looking up his name, but I wanna say Nakamura.

Har..Hariku? Hariku Nakamura?

*looks up*

HARUKI NAKAMURA! AGH! SO CLOSE!

[DoughBoy]

Tennessean decided Jim Wyatt has to take his vacation during FA. What a joke of a company.

[mightytitan9]

I swear if we lose JJ I might cry. Peyton or Mario would make me feel better though.

La Confora said JJ will likely get 9m/yr. At that price I'd gladly open the door as he walked out it

[TitanHope]

Tennessean decided Jim Wyatt has to take his vacation during FA. What a joke of a company.

I nearly raged on a local news station in Chatt. A friend of mine's husband was gravely injured fighting in the Middle East (insurgents saw his unit coming and set off an IED, and the dude helped fight them off from on his back because his legs sustained horrific injuries that eventually caused them to be amputated).

The station did a report on him and his wife and his family, so their heart is in the right place. But whoever typed up the report has a grasp of grammar that made the papers I graded as a teaching aid for a sophomore class look like Hemingway. Not only that, but there were doubled words too. The dude just earned a Purple Heart, AND YOU CAN'T EVEN ******* PROOFREAD THE ARTICLE BEFORE YOU POST IT? HE'S FROM HERE! HIS FAMILY IS GOING TO PRINT THIS OFF AND KEEP IT! HE'S GOING TO READ IT FROM HIS ******* HOSPITAL BED IN GODDAMN GERMANY! STOP USING SPELLCHECK AND GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND DO YOUR JOB, OR I'LL DO IT FOR YOU WHEN I GRADUATE!

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHH!

[Complex]

“@ProFootballTalk: Texans C Chris Myers is in talks with Houston and Tennessee, per league source.”

[CashmoneyDrew]

“@ProFootballTalk: Texans C Chris Myers is in talks with Houston and Tennessee, per league source.”

I pray to the football gods we pull him or Scott Wells.

[TitanHope]

Yeah, Myers works for me. Let Amano and Harris fight to the death for the vacant guard spot, and then murder the victor after drafting DeCastro.

That's how our ancestors did it.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Roos - Hutchinson - Myers - DeCastro - Stewart

Boner alert!

[Complex]

CJ3k if that happens. We have shot at DeCastro according to Kiper and McShay mock drafts.

[TitanHope]

Also, lets sign Lawrence Vickers.

He was good in Cleveland. He was good in Houston. He'd be good here.

[DoughBoy]

Not to mention Sarge has been a shell since the 2k season.

[Complex]

So CJ3.5k if we sign Vickers along with the other lineman and DeCastro.

[TitanHope]

Not to mention Sarge has been a shell since the 2k season.

Despite being on PED's!

I mean, I like Hall, and he's not a liability, but Vickers would be an upgrade.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Also, lets sign Lawrence Vickers.

He was good in Cleveland. He was good in Houston. He'd be good here.

Get out of my brain.

[mightytitan9]

Sign Myers, Hutch and Vickers would be awesome. I think DeCastro will be gone though

[CashmoneyDrew]

"@adamschefter: As Tennessee is wooing Peyton Manning, Packers free-agent center Scott Wells is visiting the Titans today."

[mightytitan9]

I'd rather have Myers than Wells personally, I think he fits better and I like that Bruce has coached him before

[CashmoneyDrew]

I won't complain with either one, because they'd both be massive upgrades over Amano.

[mightytitan9]

I'm hoping that means Amano is released and not just moved to Guard.

[CashmoneyDrew]

So apparently, Manning is headed to Nashville now. And also, there's speculation Bud wants Peyton to take over some kind of high ranking executive job within the organization once he retires. I think this is close to over.

[mightytitan9]

yeah I saw Adams saying how he wanted Manning to play for him and wanted him to be with the organization "for the rest of his professional career" meaning in the front office or coach

[DoughBoy]

Haha really? **** me sideways.

[Complex]

You guys think that will work ? (the front office part) Peyton said he was a colt for life.

[DoughBoy]

I just want you guys to know that, no matter what happens, I love and accept you for who you are.

[The Alex]

If the Titans sign Manning, I will post the following on the Colts board just to be a dick. I don't care about the repercussions. I will be too damn happy to care.

http://i42.tinypic.com/hreov6.jpg

[The Alex]

Roos - Hutchinson - Myers - DeCastro - Stewart

Boner alert!

http://i53.tinypic.com/2z8qa1h.jpg

[mightytitan9]

You guys think that will work ? (the front office part) Peyton said he was a colt for life.

I think it could, players have shown they aren't always as loyal as they appear.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Hutch to the Titans on a 3 year deal.

[TitansCJftw]

I LIKE yes

[mightytitan9]

now let's go get myers

[mightytitan9]

Are we projecting Hutchinson to replace Scott at RG or are we assuming he plays LG where he's played most his career?

[stephenson86]

Is it just me or do Munch and co seem to actually want to make us better and splash the cash to do so?

[mightytitan9]

Is it just me or do Munch and co seem to actually want to make us better and splash the cash to do so?

Munch and company seem like they knows you build teams by a combination of free agency and good drafting.

The offensive line is usually one of the easiest positions to be successful in during free agency.

We've already got Hutch, I expect Myers to sign by the weekend and I expect a DE (Abraham maybe) to come also.

If we go into the draft having the offensive line solidified where we only may want to add depth or a developmental guy late, I will be thrilled.

[Complex]

Is it just me or do Munch and co seem to actually want to make us better and splash the cash to do so?

It seems like it. We were planning on going after Mario and then switched our focus to Peyton when Bud said he wanted him.

[mightytitan9]

Hopefully we can get Myers signed in the next day or two before Houston clears cap space. Last I saw they only have 650k

[Fadetoblack]

Wells signs with St. Louis, Myers back with Houston. Oh well :(

[CashmoneyDrew]

****. ****. ****.

Our FO needs to quit playing slap and pickle.

[DoughBoy]

I can't take another year of Amano at center. Saturday sucks but I would still take him over Eugene because atleast he knows adjustments.

[DoughBoy]

Our last option at DE is Wimbley. We absolutely need to sign him. Jason Jones resigning would be nice too.

[DoughBoy]

Another fun fact- We have 1 DE under contract on the roster. Yay.

[Complex]

Peyton has held us and the broncos hostage. They haven't signed anyone and we signed Hutchinson but still need a pass rusher.

[TitanHope]

Kinda bummed we didn't compete with the 1-year/$4.5 million contract that Seattle gave JJ.

We'd be going DE in the 1st RD regardless, but still. I don't want a rookie DE starting because the depth behind him is nonexistant. Maybe they can work a trade for a vet DE as draft day approaches.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm still holding out hope for Osi Umenyiora in a trade.

[DoughBoy]

hopefully Dwight Freeny gets cut. Wimbley or Anderson would be good signings too, even though Id rather them be rotational players.

[DoughBoy]

Well, this has been a terrible offseason thus far. I will only be happy when we sign Wimbley and Anderson, then trade for Osi followed by us picking up Freeny when he is cut.

[Complex]

I really don't want either especially Mark Anderon. Hopefully we don't over pay by much. I rather have Wimbley but half his sacks came from one game against the chargers and their 2nd string tackle.

[CashmoneyDrew]

God dammit, we better trade up for DeCastro or this is the worst offseason ever.

Also, I'm all-in on Locker. He just needs to start. I will not sit through another season of Matt Hasselbeck when Locker is riding pine.

[mightytitan9]

I think Wimbley is best suited at DE where he hasn't really played, he played LB for the Raiders last season and for Cleveland. I suspect the Titans are pursuing him as a DE.

If we signed Wimbley and Andre Carter (i prefer him over Anderson) that'd give us Wimbley at RE, Morgan at LE and Carter as a backup. In the draft, getting a guy like Andre Branch, Melvin Ingram, Quentin Coples, Vinny Curry, Chandler Jones etc would give us a solid 4some at DE.

The main thing is just getting 2 free agent DE's, one that can start and make an impact right away and another that can provide depth and if we end up taking two DE's in the draft perhaps battle for a roster spot so he needs to come without guaranteed money.

I'm perfectly fine going into next season with Leroy Harris starting, but I DO NOT want Amano back. Really disappointed we couldn't get Wells or Myers, I can't even say that Myers wanted too much money because he only signed for 1m more than Amano is currently getting.

It really wouldn't surprise me to a Zeitler, Solatuli (sp?), Brewster etc pick in the 2nd-4th rounds and having a rookie center starting. Aside from Saturday, is there any good centers out there? I've always like Samson Satele, but I don't see the titans being a fan of him

[The Alex]

God dammit, we better trade up for DeCastro or this is the worst offseason ever.

Also, I'm all-in on Locker. He just needs to start. I will not sit through another season of Matt Hasselbeck when Locker is riding pine.

This man speaks the truth.

[Complex]

We are close to signing Wimbley to 5 year deal.

[TitanHope]

We are close to signing Wimbley to 5 year deal.

Wahahahahaaaaaaaaat?

[DoughBoy]

Titans also visiting-

Tracy Porter
Jeff Saturday
Joel Dressen
Jamaal Anderson
William ***



Any interest in those guys? I would like Tracy Porter and Dressen personally. And I guess Jeff Saturday can't be worse than Amano, but I don't really see it as an upgrade either.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I definitely want Joel Dreesen. I wouldn't mind Tracy Porter either. But what happened with Marcus Trufant? Did he sign anywhere yet?

[mightytitan9]

Jamaal Anderson is full of potential, and it's been reported several times that Washburn loved him at the draft. Maybe Munch remembers that and wants to give him a shot?

No thanks to Dreesen, why pay another TE that type of money? Tracy Porter will likely get paid more than he's worth, Trufant is stil unsigned and Iwould prefer him

[MicktheGreat]

Titans also visiting-

Tracy Porter
Jeff Saturday
Joel Dressen
Jamaal Anderson
William ***



Any interest in those guys? I would like Tracy Porter and Dressen personally. And I guess Jeff Saturday can't be worse than Amano, but I don't really see it as an upgrade either.

From that list, I'd prefer Tracy Porter and Jamaal Anderson. Porter would allow us to bump Verner inside, I think. And Anderson would give us valuable depth (and another body for the rotation) at a position-of-need. While it's not really a need for this team, I also wouldn't be opposed to signing Joel Dressen, if the price was right (i.e. cheap).

I've got very limited interest in William ***, who I don't think is very good. The only thing he really brings to the table is experience, and I'd rather look for that quality elsewhere (or give the young guys a shot to learn on the job). Absolutely no interest in Jeff Saturday -- who I don't see as a real upgrade over Amano. I'd rather take a chance on a rookie.

[mightytitan9]

I just think Porter's been getting by the Super Bowl interception, he's an average CB that gets by on that play.

Randall *** would be a waste. I'd bring in Porter if he came very cheap, like a steal, and would welcome Anderson if he came at a good price.

I really only wanted Saturday if Peyton came along with him, I'd take my chances on Brewster in the 4th round before I'd take Saturday

[TitanHope]

Titans also visiting-

Tracy Porter
Jeff Saturday
Joel Dressen
Jamaal Anderson
William ***



Any interest in those guys? I would like Tracy Porter and Dressen personally. And I guess Jeff Saturday can't be worse than Amano, but I don't really see it as an upgrade either.

I'd like to bring in a vet CB to backup McCourty and ATV, so probably one of the CB's. Dreessen too if the money is right, since he's better than Graham. But Saturday isn't an upgrade over Amano, and Jamaal Anderson is...well terrible.

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Also, anyone else think the FO signing Wimbley is odd? Seems like this move would make total sense under Washburn, but from everything we've heard and seen, the currect staff wants bigger DE's. Wimbley is listed at 6'4, 255 lbs. Maybe after last year's struggles, they decided to make a philosophical change?

I do like the signing though. People will say it's too much, but the money is pretty spot on market value. Antwan Odom could only notch 8 sacks with AH, KVB, and Tony Brown next to him, and he got $30 million from Cincy. Ray Edwards got $30 million last year despite not being a double digit guy. Kamerion at least has the same production, but also the upside of never being a full time DE in his pro career.