2012 Tennessee Titans Discussion!

[TitanHope]

I did include Mark Jones. I just have him listed at the bottom under ST rather than WR because I figure he'll play a bigger role in the return game than the passing game.

My bad dude. Totally missed that.

Anyway, Nicks and Wells have signed. Nicks, the 29th pick, got a 5-year deal worth $12.5 million/$6.5 million guaranteed. As the 30th pick and a player at the same position, Britt's price is closer to being established.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Went to training camp today. Lucky it didn't get rained out.

Jared Cook looked beastly, and I noticed he lined up almost solely as an outside WR. I thought that was interesting. He made some great catches, and so did Bo Scaife.

Lendale White surprised me. I knew he had slimmed down, but that doesn't even begin to describe how much more in shape he looks. It's like night and day. He also looked much faster and quicker overall.

Vince Young looked pitiful and almost always threw into coverage.

Other than that, not much stood out. Pretty ho hum practice, but I guess that's to be expected on only the second day of training camp.

[TitansCJftw]

nice! keep the updates coming voodoo, they are appreciated

[CashmoneyDrew]

nice! keep the updates coming voodoo, they are appreciated

Will do. I'll probably go again on Tuesday. By then things will have picked up and hopefully I'll remember my camera and take some pics.

[TitansCJftw]

Vince Young looked pitiful and almost always threw into coverage.

Man that bums me out, think VY will ever get it going? i had really high hopes for him when he was drafted, sounds like QB is gonna be the #1 concern for next years draft, i like a lot of next years qb class, think it's likely to see titans go for qb in round 1?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Man that bums me out, think VY will ever get it going?
I'm not too hopeful to be honest. It's still early into the process this season, so anything could happen. But I've honestly never really been a VY fan. Although, I'll admit that I wanted Matt Leinart and he hasn't turned out much better at this point.

I had really high hopes for him when he was drafted, sounds like QB is gonna be the #1 concern for next years draft, i like a lot of next years qb class, think it's likely to see titans go for qb in round 1?

I guess it just really depends on where we're drafting in the first. Sam Bradford will almost assuredly be out of our reach, which is a shame because I think he'll be a good one. Then there's Jevan Snead. At this point he could be an option if he came out, but I honestly think he'll end up being out of out reach come draft day as well.

And I absolutely do not want Tim Tebow. I'll probably puke if we draft him. But for some reason I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

[TitansCJftw]

And I absolutely do not want Tim Tebow. I'll probably puke if we draft him.


Well that makes at least 2 of us haha:eek:

[CashmoneyDrew]

Going to camp again today. Hopefully I'll have some pics. No promises! :p

[TitanHope]

Kenny Britt signed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a 5-year deal. Not sure about the price yet, but it'll be right under what Nicks got.

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/britt-titans-agree-five-year-deal

[aNYtitan]

Kenny Britt signed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a 5-year deal. Not sure about the price yet, but it'll be right under what Nicks got.

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/britt-titans-agree-five-year-deal

Yup, glad to see that he is in camp now. Should make for a great receiving core with Washington and Gage

[CashmoneyDrew]

Saw Kenny Britt at practice yesterday, but he didn't get in on any reps from what I saw. I got some decent pics. I'll try and put them up tomorrow probably.

[stephenson86]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRAINING CAMP

good job voodoo :D

[D-Unit]

How is Ryan Mouton looking?

[CashmoneyDrew]

How is Ryan Mouton looking?

Good news! My dad absolutely hated the pick of Mouton and my dad always holds grudges against the players he didn't want drafted (i.e. Rich Gardner, Michael Waddell, and some others) but after we were at camp he said he was pleasantly surprised by how good Mouton looked returning kicks. I think he's getting most of the important kick return reps since Mark Jones is out. If my dad is slipping up on one of his grudges, he must really be doing well. I didn't notice him in any defensive packages though.

[TitanHope]

How is Ryan Mouton looking?

Dead sexy.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090804/capt.373497df5b37493b984ee7875b3fe368.titans_camp_ football_tnmh107.jpg

[TitanHope]

Brace yourself...

Vince Young told the media that he'll be the next great black QB who will win a Super Bowl and be elected into the Hall of Fame.

Personally, I'm ok with it. Kinda used to it by now. But, as usual, others will make a big deal about it.

[TitansCJftw]

Pre-season Titans Football In Less Than 4 Hours Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Im Freaking Amped I Think My Head Is Going To Explode!@!!!!!!! Cant Wait To See The Rookies On The Field! Cheers!:):)

[chad72]

Hey, a Colts fan here, wanted the Colts to get Mitch King, you guys got him:) . Caught bits and pieces of the Titans-Bills game yesterday. Javon Ringer did not wow me that much, to be honest. Did Mitch King play? How is he coming along? Just curious.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Yo Chad. I didn't get a chance to see the second half of the game last night really so I can't tell you how King did in the game. However, in the couple of training camp practices I've been to I noticed Mitch King in on some reps. He didn't really do anything to impress me, but he didn't ever look lost or out of place either.

[D-Unit]

Dead sexy.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090804/capt.373497df5b37493b984ee7875b3fe368.titans_camp_ football_tnmh107.jpg
Yup. That looks like the Ryan Mouton that I know. He played every position in our secondary and took some memorable kickoffs to the house! Including 1 against Florida last year. Toasted those guys. Pfft.... and some people say Florida has speed? Well... apparently not Ryan Mouton speed. :D

[islandboy843]

I can't decide who is sexier.


http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/nfl.afc.south.training.camps/images/Titans-Camp-Football.jpg

[aNYtitan]

I can't decide who is sexier.


http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/nfl.afc.south.training.camps/images/Titans-Camp-Football.jpg

Its a choice I'm glad I can make

[TitanHope]

I can't decide who is sexier.


http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/nfl.afc.south.training.camps/images/Titans-Camp-Football.jpg

Griff looks like a badass in the visor.

[TitanHope]

Scott's Titans review is up!

http://www.draftcountdown.com/reviews/Teams/Tennessee-Titans.php

Probably the most complimentary review I've seen Scott give to us since I've been here. :D

[CashmoneyDrew]

Yeah, it was a pretty good review. Took him long enough though.......

:p :p :p

[aNYtitan]

LOL, definitely on the positive side of it, but thats because he felt we always reached for another position in the first round other then settling the WR spot.

Besides that, I want to get a new jersey but am not sure about who, CJ is obviously the face of our offense, but Bulluck is the face of the team. I'm also thinking about Kenny Britt cause I loved the pick when we made it, still do and he has local ties to NY.

Also, when is it time to get a new thread started for the new season?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Mmmmm....... Might hold off on the Bulluck until he re-signs. Unless you don't care about that type of thing.

[aNYtitan]

Mmmmm....... Might hold off on the Bulluck until he re-signs. Unless you don't care about that type of thing.

I could never see Bulluck playing in another jersey, but I thought the same bout Steve McNair

[CashmoneyDrew]

Game day. Time for another win! :D :D :D

[CashmoneyDrew]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/john_lopez/08/19/afc.players/2.html

Apparently KVB is our most indispensable player. I guess that's true if we don't have Chris Johnson, Michael Roos, Keith Bulluck, Cortland Finnegan, and Michael Griffin.

[TitanHope]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/john_lopez/08/19/afc.players/2.html

Apparently KVB is our most indispensable player. I guess that's true if we don't have Chris Johnson, Michael Roos, Keith Bulluck, Cortland Finnegan, and Michael Griffin.

Ya gotta remember our Defense SUCKED before KVB got here. The leadership that he adds and energy he emits is something that can't be replaced. I think this is based on the outside perspective of, "Yeah, it'd suck if they lose Roos, but they have Mawae and Stewart on the OL so they still have great players there," and "Yeah, it'd suck to lose Chris Johnson, but they have LenDale White," kind of deal. If we lost KVB, there's no Pro Bowler or publically recognizable name along the DL to cushion the blow.

From a Titans fan's standpoint, it's gotta be CJ.

[aNYtitan]

Ya gotta remember our Defense SUCKED before KVB got here. The leadership that he adds and energy he emits is something that can't be replaced. I think this is based on the outside perspective of, "Yeah, it'd suck if they lose Roos, but they have Mawae and Stewart on the OL so they still have great players there," and "Yeah, it'd suck to lose Chris Johnson, but they have LenDale White," kind of deal. If we lost KVB, there's no Pro Bowler or publically recognizable name along the DL to cushion the blow.

From a Titans fan's standpoint, it's gotta be CJ.

I would nominate Roos or Bulluck over KVB or CJ. Titans fans kinda know that KVB won't be out on the field for the entire season, and thats why we have good depth at DE. If we lose Roos, I mean its a down grade at center if we move Mawae, and Mawae won't be as good as Roos, so it would be a downgrade at tackle. More I think about it, the more I feel its Bulluck. He is the heart and soul of the defense, the captain of it, and if he is ever out there really is no one that we can fill in for him

[TitanHope]

Chris Davis was charged with a DUI. Expect a suspension...if he makes the team.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-titans-davisarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns

I would nominate Roos or Bulluck over KVB or CJ. Titans fans kinda know that KVB won't be out on the field for the entire season, and thats why we have good depth at DE. If we lose Roos, I mean its a down grade at center if we move Mawae, and Mawae won't be as good as Roos, so it would be a downgrade at tackle. More I think about it, the more I feel its Bulluck. He is the heart and soul of the defense, the captain of it, and if he is ever out there really is no one that we can fill in for him

Mawae wouldn't move over to LT. He's good, but he ain't that good. ;) I'd think we'd put either David Stewart at LT and put Troy Kropog at RT, or vice-versa with Stewart staying at RT and putting Kropog at LT with Crumpler lined up next to him to help. That, or find a FA that could help.

I'd agree with Bulluck. This is the kind of debate that's good to have though. Shows how great some of our players are.

[TitanHope]

WR Chris Davis has been released after his DUI arrest.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AsffXX_g6AjMgiT2nG5PSgea2bYF?slug=ap-titans-davis&prov=ap&type=lgns

[DoughBoy]

Looks like Dominique Edison and Mark Jones are going to be fighting for that last spot.

[TitanHope]

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q178/GetBad/2ND%20GALLERY/champwhiff212frjw5.gif

Here's a .gif of Ben Troupe leaping Champ Bailey if anybody wants a motion Titans avy.

I know he's no longer on the team, but it's still a sweet clip. :cool:

Makes me excited to see Jared Cook do that to a few guys over the next few years!

[CashmoneyDrew]

Some of my slightly interesting pics from training camp from a couple of weeks ago.

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[TitanHope]

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Yeayuh!!!!!!! :D


Fisher says Young will be No. 2 QB (http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/fisher-says-young-will-be-no-2-qb)

Congrats to VY! He's earned it this preseason.

[aNYtitan]

Yeayuh!!!!!!! :D


Fisher says Young will be No. 2 QB (http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/fisher-says-young-will-be-no-2-qb)

Congrats to VY! He's earned it this preseason.

Good stuff to hear, I mean it seems like he is bound to make one boneheaded play or two, but hopefully over time he can realize not to make the same mistake twice.

[TitanHope]

Titans are working out Matt Jones.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4440936

According to Jones's agent, "This is moving quickly."

Not sure what to think... Perhaps Dinger sees another Drew Bennett?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Oh God. Just what we need. Another crackhead.

[MicktheGreat]

I wouldn't mind bringing in Matt Jones to be our #4 WR. He's never lived up to his 1st round billing, but he did look better last season for the Jags.

Plus, that would allow us to (hopefully) put both Edison & Guice on the practice squad.

A WR core of Gage, Washington, Britt, Jones, & Hawkins would be one of the best groups we've had in quite awhile...

[DoughBoy]

Edison is in front of Hawk on the depth chart by the way Jim Wyatt and the guys on 104.5 talk. I doubt they will risk letting Edison go on waivers.

[stephenson86]

im not opposed to bringing in matt jones, if he lives up to his potential, hello red zone...or he can be our #2 QB

[TitanHope]

Edison is in front of Hawk on the depth chart by the way Jim Wyatt and the guys on 104.5 talk. I doubt they will risk letting Edison go on waivers.

Yup, apparently Edison has had a great camp and Hawk hasn't. Which really purplexes me, because after Paul Williams, I thought of Hawkins as the ST's coverage WR. I guess Edison will fill that role.

Oh well. As long as it's either Edison or Hawkins and not Mark Jones. He's seriously a return specialist? Carolina must have an unworldly ST's blocking unit.

And in all fairness to Matt Jones, he had a great year last year and seems to be fully sober now.

Also, RB Rafael Little, WR Dudley Guice, C Matt Lehr, and LB Tyson Smith were waived on Sep. 1st.

[TitanHope]

More Titans cuts:

CB DaMarcus Faggins
WR Mark Jones
WR Paul Williams
HB Casey Cramer
LB Rocky Boiman
LB Josh Stamer
S Tuff Harris
S Nick Schommer
OL Jason Murphy
OL Fernando Velasco
WR Phillip Morris

Bolded the players of note. Faggins was cut while rookies Jason McCourty and Tanard Davis are still there. Injury and horrible game against Cleveland pretty much sealed the deal for Jones. Williams was something everyone saw coming, along with Stamer. Stamer did make the roster last season, but the writing was on the wall after Gerald McRath took the field. Cramer could get called up midseason, and look for Velasco to sign on the PS.

Link. (http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090904/SPORTS01/90904028/1027/Titans+release+returner+Jones++CB+Fagginshttp://www.tennessean.com/article/20090904/SPORTS01/90904028/1027/Titans+release+returner+Jones++CB+Faggins)

EDIT: DT Mitch King has also been cut.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Who knew Nick Schommer would get cut? haha
Oh wait I did, as soon as we picked his ass. :(

[MicktheGreat]

TITANS OFFICIAL 53-MAN ROSTER:
(projected starters in bold)

OFFENSE:
QB Kerry Collins
QB Vince Young
QB Patrick Ramsey
RB Chris Johnson
RB Lendale White
RB Javon Ringer
RB Chris Henry
FB Ahmard Hall
WR Justin Gage
WR Nate Washington
WR Kenny Britt
WR Dominique Edison
WR Lavelle Hawkins
TE Bo Scaife
TE Alge Crumpler
TE Jared Cook
TE Craig Stevens
OL Michael Roos
OL David Stewart
OL Jake Scott
OL Eugene Amano
OL Kevin Mawae
OL Leroy Harris
OL Troy Kropog
OL Mike Otto

DEFENSE:
DE Kyle Vanden Bosch
DE Javon Kearse
DE Jacob Ford
DE Dave Ball
DE William Hayes
DT Tony Brown
DT Jason Jones
DT Jovan Haye
DT Kevin Vickerson
DT Sen'Derrick Marks
LB Keith Bulluck
LB David Thornton
LB Stephen Tulloch
LB Gerald McRath
LB Stanford Keglar
LB Colin Allred
CB Cortland Finnegan
CB Nick Harper
CB Jason McCourty
CB Ryan Mouton
CB Cary Williams
S Michael Griffin
S Chris Hope
S Vincent Fuller (NCB)
S Donnie Nickey

SPECIAL TEAMS:
K Rob Bironas
P Craig Hentrich
LS Ken Amato (LB)

[CashmoneyDrew]

Did we seriously cut Quinton Ganther for Chris Henry?........

[MicktheGreat]

Depending on who gets cut by other teams, I wouldn't be surprised if the Titans try to add a veteran WR, LB, and/or CB. We never really had any experienced depth at WR, and after cutting Fowler & Faggins, we don't really have any backup experience at LB or CB either.

[MicktheGreat]

Did we seriously cut Quinton Ganther for Chris Henry?........

Yep.

Henry's apparently impressed in camp and in the preseason, and I guess Ganther got injured in one of the preseason games. The article that I read said that the Titans reached an injury settlement with Ganther before releasing him, so at least he got a little bit of money. I wouldn't be surprised if some team adds him at some point in the season since he can play both RB & FB.

[stephenson86]

got to be said its pretty irellivent who got cut between those two as ringer dinger dinger is better than the both of them

i like the roster moves, looking forward to getting it up on madden :D

[TitanHope]

Signed 7 of our cuts to practice squad:

WR Paul Williams
DT Mitch King
OL Ryan Durand
OL Fernando Velasco
S Nick Schommer
RB Rodney Ferguson
WR Phillip Morris

NICK SCHOMMER!!! Thank God we got him back!!! :D

Link. (http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090906/SPORTS01/90906011/1027/Titans+re-sign+7+cuts+to+practice+squad)

[DoughBoy]

Good news everyone!!!!!

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Nate Washington returns to practice....
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090907/SPORTS01/90907017/1027/Titans+receiver+Washington+returns+to+practice

Mawae Ready....
http://blogs.tennessean.com/titans/2009/09/07/mawae-ready-to-roll-vs-steelers/



Mouton and Hentrich are back and Are taking full reps.Jared Cook, is also back at practice but like Washington he did not participate fully.

[islandboy843]

2 dayssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[TitanHope]

2 dayssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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I am sooo ready.

[aNYtitan]

I really can't wait, though this is as hard a game as a team can have. My brother tried to compare it and said that the Giants being the first team to visit the Cowboys at the new Cowboys Stadium is close. Now I just have to figure out how I am going to watch this game. I hope its on NBC, and I am going to be pissed if its on the NFL network

[TitanHope]

Great Titans montage of our Preseason.

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[Cicero]

Hey Titans fans, I'm doing a forum mock and the Titans are one of teams I have. I'm thinking about possibly trying to trade for Mathias Kiwianuka what do you guys think he's worth? Titans have the 27th pick.

If I don't make a deal for a DE I was thinking I was going to go with a DE if the value is there. When I look at the Titans roster I put DE at the top of the needs list but I just wanted to check with you guys.

Since this is a forum mock and all underclassmen are declaring I could always make a creative pick too. Any juniors/redshirt sophomores that you don't really think will declare you would like to see on the roster?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Hey Titans fans, I'm doing a forum mock and the Titans are one of teams I have. I'm thinking about possibly trying to trade for Mathias Kiwianuka what do you guys think he's worth? Titans have the 27th pick.

If I don't make a deal for a DE I was thinking I was going to go with a DE if the value is there. When I look at the Titans roster I put DE at the top of the needs list but I just wanted to check with you guys.

Since this is a forum mock and all underclassmen are declaring I could always make a creative pick too. Any juniors/redshirt sophomores that you don't really think will declare you would like to see on the roster?

Eric Berry. Make it happen.
jk
But you can't go wrong with a great DE or CB. Only go QB if you think the value is good. Don't reach for the Tony Pikes or Tim Hillers of the draft. Oh, and if you give us Tim Teblow I will be forced to hunt you down and destroy you.
Have fun! ;)

[TitanHope]

Hey Titans fans, I'm doing a forum mock and the Titans are one of teams I have. I'm thinking about possibly trying to trade for Mathias Kiwianuka what do you guys think he's worth? Titans have the 27th pick.

If I don't make a deal for a DE I was thinking I was going to go with a DE if the value is there. When I look at the Titans roster I put DE at the top of the needs list but I just wanted to check with you guys.

Since this is a forum mock and all underclassmen are declaring I could always make a creative pick too. Any juniors/redshirt sophomores that you don't really think will declare you would like to see on the roster?

DE is by far my #1 need for the Titans. Kyle Vanden Bosch and Jevon Kearse are FA's, and behind them are Jacob Ford and William Hayes, who are really great pass-rushers but not every down DE's yet, and Dave Ball, who has chronic back problems.

Kiwanuka is very intriguing, but won't he be a FA soon? Either way, I'd like it! When Umenyiora went down for the season last year, Kiwi moved back to DE and notched 8.5 sacks. A 6'5, 265 lbs. DE who's ready to play now would be more than welcome. He'd be in a similar situation here in Tennessee. We have our own Justin Tuck in Jason Jones. Jacob Ford + William Hayes could one day equal Umenyiora. And there's a deep DT rotation like in NY.

The previous draft also fortified a lot of areas that would've been needs next year. LenDale White is a FA, but we drafted Javon Ringer. Bo Scaife is a FA, but we drafted Jared Cook. Keith Bulluck is a FA, but we drafted Gerald McRath. Nick Harper is a FA, but we drafted Ryan Mouton and Jason McCourty. Tony Brown is a FA, but we drafted SenDerrick Marks. There are few holes, which puts you is a good spot as a drafter - it's hard to go wrong.

Keep in mind that the Titans have no 2nd RD pick, so our next pick doesn't come til our two 3rd RD'ers later on. I think Kiwanuka is worth it, since he'll be a 8+ sack DE for us for the next 4 years. That'd seem like the best option to me.

[TitanHope]

I submitted questions in Scott's "Ask Scott Wright" feature. Here's what I got:

I have two - one for college and one for pro.

Dear Scott,

All-American safeties Eric Berry and Taylor Mays are unanimously viewed as the two best safety prospects for the upcoming Draft. Taylor Mays is currently your #1 senior prospect in the nation, but if Berry declares, would Berry overcome Mays in your rankings? Can you explain why you'd like one over the other?

Thanks,
Thomas W. in Chattanooga, TN

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Dear Scott,

In your current Mock Draft, you list QB as the "dark horse" pick for the Tennessee Titans, which is a very valid thought - Kerry Collins is a few years out from social security, and Vince Young is a polarizing figure who hasn't put it all together yet. While I don't think the Titans could afford passing on a stud DE for a QB in the 1st RD, I do think that investing a 3rd RD or trading up in the 2nd RD (Titans traded their '10 2nd RD'er to the Patriots in the '09 so they could select TE Jared Cook, who made your Dream Draft /plug) for a QB may be a wise decision. We all know about the 1st RD QB's like Sam Bradford, Jevan Snead, Colt McCoy, and possibly Tim Tebow, but what about the 2nd and 3rd tier QB's like Tony Pike, Dan LeFevour, and Tim Hiller? Do any of those players have starting potential a few years from now, or are they just another back-up QB like the Kevin Kolbs and John Becks of the past?

Thanks,
Thomas W. in Chattanooga, TN

Maybe he'll pick one. ^_^


Oh, and I've passed Pit Bull for being the top poster in this thread! Hooray!

I'm at 279, but if you count both Cashmoneydrew and Voodoo's posts, he's the real leader at 309. I'll catch you yet Drew!!! :D

[Cicero]

Eric Berry. Make it happen.
jk
But you can't go wrong with a great DE or CB. Only go QB if you think the value is good. Don't reach for the Tony Pikes or Tim Hillers of the draft. Oh, and if you give us Tim Teblow I will be forced to hunt you down and destroy you.
Have fun! ;)
The only QB besides Bradford or Sneed I was thinking about was Clausen but I'm not very sure about any of the draft eligible QBs right now.

I have Tebow on my board as a 4th round wildcat player/fullback/short yardage back so don't worry there.

DE is by far my #1 need for the Titans. Kyle Vanden Bosch and Jevon Kearse are FA's, and behind them are Jacob Ford and William Hayes, who are really great pass-rushers but not every down DE's yet, and Dave Ball, who has chronic back problems.

Kiwanuka is very intriguing, but won't he be a FA soon? Either way, I'd like it! When Umenyiora went down for the season last year, Kiwi moved back to DE and notched 8.5 sacks. A 6'5, 265 lbs. DE who's ready to play now would be more than welcome. He'd be in a similar situation here in Tennessee. We have our own Justin Tuck in Jason Jones. Jacob Ford + William Hayes could one day equal Umenyiora. And there's a deep DT rotation like in NY.

The previous draft also fortified a lot of areas that would've been needs next year. LenDale White is a FA, but we drafted Javon Ringer. Bo Scaife is a FA, but we drafted Jared Cook. Keith Bulluck is a FA, but we drafted Gerald McRath. Nick Harper is a FA, but we drafted Ryan Mouton and Jason McCourty. Tony Brown is a FA, but we drafted SenDerrick Marks. There are few holes, which puts you is a good spot as a drafter - it's hard to go wrong.

Keep in mind that the Titans have no 2nd RD pick, so our next pick doesn't come til our two 3rd RD'ers later on. I think Kiwanuka is worth it, since he'll be a 8+ sack DE for us for the next 4 years. That'd seem like the best option to me.

The current asking price for Kiwi is a 1st and a 4th. That sounds like a deal I could see happening in real life. Would you guys be happy with that? Anything to add in there to sweeten the deal? Then as far 1-2 round DEs that are predicted to come out, Hardy, Graham, Griffin, and Wootton all could possibly be there.

Since all underclassmen can be drafted there are always junior and redshirt sophomore sleepers to grab like Deunta Williams, Allen Bailey, Bruce Campbell, Nate Soldier, etc. too. Any of those type of guys that you think would be a steal for the Titans in round 3 or 4, or even that you would want in round 1?

Thanks guys.

[TitanHope]

The current asking price for Kiwi is a 1st and a 4th. That sounds like a deal I could see happening in real life. Would you guys be happy with that? Anything to add in there to sweeten the deal? Then as far 1-2 round DEs that are predicted to come out, Hardy, Graham, Griffin, and Wootton all could possibly be there.

Since all underclassmen can be drafted there are always junior and redshirt sophomore sleepers to grab like Deunta Williams, Allen Bailey, Bruce Campbell, Nate Soldier, etc. too. Any of those type of guys that you think would be a steal for the Titans in round 3 or 4, or even that you would want in round 1?

Thanks guys.

A 1st and a 4th? See if you can sell a 1st and 2011 3rd RD'er. It's up to you tho, and if you're fine with not being able to use that 4th RD'er. If all else fails, Greg Hardy would be stellar there.

I'm not even familiar with upcoming senior prospects yet, let alone the underclassmen. I can't help ya there... :(

Ya'll aren't predicting comp. picks, are you? Because the Titans will be getting at least a 3rd RD comp. pick from losing Haynesworth in FA.

[Cicero]

A 1st and a 4th? See if you can sell a 1st and 2011 3rd RD'er. It's up to you tho, and if you're fine with not being able to use that 4th RD'er. If all else fails, Greg Hardy would be stellar there.

I'm not even familiar with upcoming senior prospects yet, let alone the underclassmen. I can't help ya there... :(

Ya'll aren't predicting comp. picks, are you? Because the Titans will be getting at least a 3rd RD comp. pick from losing Haynesworth in FA.
No, we're not doing comp picks. That might be something we try to fit in next time I guess it didn't really come up.

[aNYtitan]

Hmm...a first and a 4th for Kiwanuka? I would really push for a first and a 5th or a 4th next year. Like has been said, DE and CB are the biggest needs, and even though Scott feels that it would be a dark horse pick of QB, I don't see it happening cause Young would just have to bomb his starting opportunity if he gets one, and Bud Adams has to be convinced to feel like he isn't the future QB of the Titans

[TitanHope]

Bobby Wade has been released by the Vikings. Would definitely entertain the idea of picking him back up, depending on how the WR's look tonight.

[aNYtitan]

Goodbye old thread, lots of memories here

[TitanHope]

Goodbye old thread, lots of memories here

Lol, we've had this thread since Scott made it in '06. It ain't goin away anytime soon. It just needs a makeover every now and then. :)

BTW, Scott answered one of my questions! :D

Eric Berry and Taylor Mays are unanimously viewed as the two best safety prospects for the upcoming draft. Mays is currently your #1 senior prospect in the nation but if Berry declares will he overtake him in your rankings? Can you explain why you would like one over the other?

Thomas
Chattanooga, TN

If Tennessee's Eric Berry enters the 2009 NFL Draft after his junior season he would indeed leapfrog Southern Cal's Taylor Mays in my rankings. It's not as cut-and-dried as some make it out to be though. Right now Mays is catching some flak because he only has 4 career interceptions in three years while Berry has 12 in just two seasons. However, it's important to keep in mind that they are two different types of players. Bob Sanders has only picked off 5 passes in his pro career and Ed Reed has snagged 43. Does that make Sanders, a former Defensive MVP, any less of a player? Of course not. It's like choosing between vanilla and chocolate ice cream, both are good! The reason I give Berry a slight edge is because he's a little more versatile. Not only can Berry make those impact plays in coverage but he will also come up to hit whereas Mays is more enforcer than playmaker.

Both Berry and Mays look like legitimate Top 5-10 overall picks at this point.

- Scott Wright, Draft Countdown

There's a picture of Eric Berry on the front page now too. :cool:

[stephenson86]

mays is so much better than berry lol

[CashmoneyDrew]

mays is so much better than berry lol

Sir, you are henceforth dead to me until you apologize not only to me, but also to the football god known simply as #14.

[TitanHope]

Just some tidbits I've noticed over the past few games:

- Michael Griffin is to the Titans as Eric Berry is the Vols.
More Specifically, Monte and Cecil use them in the same way. Watch the tape. They're sooo good, and get lined up everywhere because of it. Griffin play close to the line a lot against Pitt, while Fuller played deep.

- Titans are the most disciplined DEF in the NFL.
They aren't perfect, but they hit hard and some think they're dirty. Yet, they weren't called. Just need to beware of pump fakes!

- Kenny Britt is our leading receiver with 84 yards.
A WR! Not a TE, but a WR was the best! After our first game last year, it was Scaife, a TE, who led us. Gage, another WR, is in 2nd after Britt. A year ago, Chris Johnson, a rookie RB, was in 2nd. The offense has true balance now. Short, intermediate, deep passes, screens - we can do it all! If Britt would keep up these 84 yard games, he'll be a 1,360 yard receiver. :D

- Tulloch and Bulluck excite me.
I'm a huge KBull fan, but to see him line up over the opposing Center and blitz made me so happy. He'll get sacks this year! And Tulloch proved why Fowler isn't needed. 8 solos and 12 total tackles. If Tully kept up that pace all season, he'd have 128 solos and 192 total tackles. Expect great things to come from him.

That's all I got for now.

[TitanHope]

Wpras6LVgzI

I just noticed that Griffin used this same tomahawk swipe to force fumbles in college. It seems he's pretty good at it... :D

[Cicero]

I ended up going with Derrick Morgan for that pick. I was going to trade for Kiwi but the Giants owner wasn't online and I had to make my pick. Morgan is a beast and I bet he ends up in round 1 on people's mocks sooner rather than later.

[TitanHope]

I ended up going with Derrick Morgan for that pick. I was going to trade for Kiwi but the Giants owner wasn't online and I had to make my pick. Morgan is a beast and I bet he ends up in round 1 on people's mocks sooner rather than later.

I can dig it. Loved Michael Johnson last season, and Morgan sounds like a more all-around DE. Nice pick Cicero!

[TitanHope]

Vince Young takes Steve McNair's sons to Father-Son breakfast. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Vince-Young-takes-Steve-McNair-s-boys-to-father-?urn=nfl,190323)

Great read. Go VY!

[TitanHope]

I can haz triple post?

CJ hopes for more carries. (http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/titans-johnson-hopes-more-carries)

Titans feel heat on blitz decision - Cecil explains his decision. (http://tennessean.com/article/20090916/COLUMNIST0202/909160402/1027/SPORTS01)

Rookie Britt shows why Titans nabbed him in Draft. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-titans-britt&prov=ap&type=lgns)

Today's Titans Team Report from Yahoo!. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ten/report#notes_quotes)

On another note, Colts WR Anthony Gonzalez may miss up to 8 weeks with a knee injury, so the odds of him playing in the Sunday night Titans/Colts game will be slim. Also, Haynesworth is getting a lot of criticism in Washington already. Here's one article - Albert Haynesworth isn't Superman (http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090918/SPORTS01/90917087/0/SPORTS01/Albert+Haynesworth+isn+t+‘Superman’) - and here's another - Haynesworth leaves team at a loss with his impact. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/13/AR2009091303024.html)

[TitanHope]

Jeff Fisher's Monday press conference:

Text link. (http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Coach-Fishers-Monday-Press-Conference/af48116f-60c6-42eb-9ad6-0bb484553f75)

Video Link. (http://www.titansonline.com/media-center/videos/Head-Coach-Jeff-Fisher/03e02be7-b84d-48f6-a866-9eaeb01163a9)

HEAD COACH JEFF FISHER


(on if there are any roster additions at punter)


Not today, no.


(on if there will be any roster additions tomorrow)


It’s unlikely that Craig (Hentrich) will punt this week. When you only have one punter, we’ll replace him and we’ll take our time doing it. I don’t have any names for you right now. Yes, (A.J.) Trapasso will be an option, but we’re in the process of doing that.


(on if Craig Hentrich’s injury is season ending)


There’s a lot of different options right now.


(on if there was contact on Craig Hentrich when he was injured)


No, it’s a calf strain.


(on if Craig Hentrich injured himself on the kick)


He did it on the final punt, yes.


(on if the coach’s tape showed any new footage of the fight)


I could not see anything, coaches tape does not show it. I’ve looked at the TV tape and I couldn’t see a punch thrown. You know, the whole thing started with Andre Davis [Johnson]. Walt Coleman misspoke when he said number 89, it was number 80. It was not number 89. Andre Johnson rather, jerked Cortland (Finnegan) down by the face mask on their boundary and that started the ruckus in the bench area. It was a crack-toss, he grab Cort and they we’re pushing and shoving and he had cloth and pulled him out of bounds, grabbed him down by the face mask and then Cort was trying to get loose. Then Jason (Jones) went in to rescue or whatever. I didn’t see a punch thrown, I’m not questioning whether or not. If you’re going to eject a player, you better be sure that he threw a punch.


(on if Andre Johnson should have been ejected)


He’ll be fined for that. That was the act that led to the incident on the sideline. But that’s not something where you would eject a player.


(on if another Texans player threw a punch as well)


It’s hard to see.


(on if it was surprising that only one player was ejected)


There’s a lot going on over there. The league will take a look at it and I’m sure there will be more fines and things for the people involved. At this point, all I can say is I didn’t see the punch thrown. Again, they’re not going to eject a player without having been fairly sure that it was thrown.


(on how fine of a line is it to defend teammates in that situation)


It was a selfish act on Jason’s (Jones) part. You know, we kept three tackles up and I have to have an end go on the field on fourth-and-one and play tackle in a critical situation. You got to put the team first. It is a fine line. You’ve got your teammate battling over there in their bench area you’re going to go and try to help them. You can go help them without throwing a punch.


(on if Jason Jones did throw a punch)


I’m assuming they saw what they saw. I didn’t see it.


(on if Jason Jones’ punch is grounds for suspension)


He’s already been ejected from the game.


(on not keeping another defensive tackle for the game)


It wasn’t a difficult decision at all. It’s unusual for us to keep up eight, last week we kept up eight but usually we carry seven.


(on if the length of Craig Hentrich’s injury will determine who they sign)


Yeah, it has a lot to do with the length of the injury and the nature of the injury, and we don’t have all the information yet. It’s hard to carry two punters on your active roster the whole entire year. We have other needs and we may have other needs that come up. We’re in the process of discussing it.


(on the return game)


They’re getting better. It’s not where we want to be but they’re both improving. Ryan (Mouton) needs to make better decisions on the ball that went over his head and not field that ball, backed us up like it did. Who knows, had that not happend maybe C.J. (Chris Johnson) wouldn’t have had the 88 [91] yard run.


(on if the kick returners will remain the same)


We’re evaluating everything.


(on if the secondary’s communication problems are correctable)


Yeah, everything’s correctable. We’ve given up too many big plays and we’ve got to get it straightened out and we will.


(on what safeties are coached to do with play-action)


On the touchdown pass, it was clearly Griff’s (Michael Griffin) error. Griff had the deep half, he’s not in the run fit. He should be playing on top. It shouldn’t happen.


(on the players questioning the coaching staff after the game)


I addressed that. It was more frustration. As you go through a game and you call a game, in any one of the three phases, there’s always going to be one or two that you’d like to have over to rethink yourself. But as far as our game plan’s concerned, we’ve carried that same game plan into that ball game and haven’t had any issues with that. We had some, when a player gets beat one-on-one, it has nothing to do with the game plan or the calls and so-on-so-forth. That’s not an issue.


(on players questioning the game plan and the adjustments)


Let me set the record straight here. When you’re a good football team and you start off the season 0-2, there’s going to be frustration. And the only way you get out of it is you avoid pointing fingers at anybody, everybody accepts the blame and you move on. There were adjustments made on the sideline with each and everything that we saw. There was an adjustment made for that last big pass that they made on the sideline. It was made, I heard it. If the players are eluding to the fact that we’re having trouble making adjustments, the players need to pay closer attention to what’s being said on the sideline. That’s just football, it happens week after week.


(on not kicking the field goal in the fourth quarter)


Rob (Bironas) probably could have taken a shot at it and probably could have made it, but at that point in the game a field goal’s not going to win the game for us. That was my decision. There was significant wind and I was not going to have a field goal end up short and give them good field position. It was my decision on third down to take two shots at it to try to get the first down.


(on if Craig Hentrich being injured factored into that decision because he is the holder)


Craig would have held, yes.


(on the three-step drop by Matt Schaub factoring into less presser from the defense)


If we’re getting hits on quarterbacks in three-step drops then something is fundamentally wrong with an offense. The design of the three-step offense is to get the ball out and not hold it. There will be a rare occasion where you’ve taken things away. They are pro coaches as well. They know that we have put their quarterback on his back many, many times over the last few years. They did not want that to happen, so they were getting rid of the football quickly or max protection, play-action. Same thing that we saw last week.


(on challenging Jacoby Jones’ touchdown pass and how it was different from the Raiders game)


I didn’t see the Raiders play. The reason I challenged the play was because I saw him establish possession of the football, but when he went down he went down on our player so he wasn’t technically down. When he came down in the end zone, the ball came loose. So, I felt it was close enough to challenge and look at that.


(on seeing Jacoby Jones’ catch again)


I haven’t seen enough yet. I have to look at the TV tape. I just looked at the coach’s tape. I would challenge it again. It’s one of those plays. Keep in mind there’s a difference between plays involving catches in the end zone and catches on the field of play and catches on the sideline. If you’ve got possession in the end zone it’s a touchdown. So, if there’s possession as you cross the plain it’s a touchdown. My question was I don’t think he was down. He was on our player, that doesn’t establish the fact that he’s actually down. That’s why I looked at it. That’s the way our replay system is. There’s always going to be things that come up that you’ve just not seen before, but in that case it clearly made sense for me to challenge it.


(on the muff punt rule)


Of course I’ve thought about it long and hard. I hope it’s something that we’ll address next offseason. It just doesn’t look right. There’s no way we can coach a player not to hit the return man or go after the ball once the ball bounces out of his hands. You can‘t wait for the ball to hit the ground and then jump on it. To me, I think we need to look at it. Again, it was the correct call considering our current rules.


(on if he’s seen the muff punt rule in effect before)


Yes, I have seen it before but it was a few years ago and it didn’t involve a turnover. The ball came loose and the player was hit but the player still recovered it so there was fair catch interference. The hard thing about this play when you see it is we’ve got the ball first down at the nine-yard line, and now we don’t have the ball and they assess the 15-yard penalty on top of it.


(on how to keep guys from being down after being 0-2)


You know what, we’re just going to keep getting better. That’s all we do. We take it one day at a time just keep getting better, not thinking about playoffs, keep working on the little things. There were some good things in this game. Chris Johnson’s effort, that was historic. For our franchise that’s the most yards from scrimmage since 1961. I think Robbie (Bohren) said it’s one of the 12th best efforts yards from scrimmage since 1970. Unfortunately, that was overshadowed in a loss. That’s a tremendous effort. Our defensive tackles, against their run, played really well. There were some good things in this game. Our kicker kicked especially well. We have to work on a lot of things and were going to continue. We’re not going to dwell on the loss. We’re going to correct the little things and move on.


(on if there is frustration from the players)


I would expect frustration from them and it’s okay to be frustrated but you have to come to terms with it. You have to deal with it, you have to move on and that’s what Monday’s are about.


(on communications problems in the secondary)


We corrected a lot of things. It’s being corrected and it’s continuing to be corrected now. There were things that just happened that should not have happened.


(on if the secondary was looking at the wrong places on the field that led to the confusion)


I could list 20 different things here. It’s just part of playing football. We’ve got a good secondary. They’ve given up too many big plays. This is a team loss, it’s not a secondary loss, it’s not a Michael Griffin loss, it’s a team loss. We played a good offense.


(on what the Jets are doing similarly to Rex Ryan’s former Ravens team)


It’s the same defense with a healthy Chris McAlister and Samari Rolle. They’ve got an extraordinary secondary, so it makes them a special team.


(on the wide receivers catching one pass in the second half)


You know, we ran the football a little bit. We wanted to try to slow the game down. It happened. Kerry had to hurry a couple times. The second half of the game was certainly different. They were 0-8 on third down in the second half, and we were 2-7. It was a tale of two halves, you know?


(on any other injuries other than Hentrich)


At this point we’re still evaluating, but we’ll have a report for you on Wednesday.


(on Bo Scaife’s injury status)


I have not ruled him out for this week.


(on if the team will be patient with rookie returners Javon Ringer and Ryan Mouton)


It takes time, but you saw they both flashed. In the kickoff return game, if they get better help from their support teammates, the blockers, there are some lanes there. There are some opportunities, and Ryan showed some run skills. He just has to settle down and just get more confident with his decisions.


(on if they will stay with Ringer and Mouton on returns)


Yeah. I mean, if there’s somebody else out there that’s better, and we feel like it’s a move we need to make, we’ll make it. And we’ll let you know about it.


(on if he’s concerned if a player is coached not to field a punt and then fields it)


I know what happened. I’m clear as to why he did it. It was a unique experience that we hadn’t put him through as a staff. I believed in him from this standpoint: when you tell him to do something, he does it. Now, catching is easier said than done. You tell a young man to catch a football, sometimes they drop it. So they don’t always do what you say they’re going to do, but in this case, as the situations have come up through the preseason and all the different scenarios that have come up, this one hadn’t. So I understand why he made an attempt to try to catch that ball.


(on players warming up on the sideline after Hentrich was injured)


Just to try to cover our bases to see what our best options were going to be because I knew that he was not going to be able to punt and finish a game.


(on how easy it was to send Rob Bironas out to punt)


It was easy to send Rob out there only because Rob’s the kicker. My concern was Rob fielding a snap, which is not an easy thing to do, especially with a kicking ball. So you’ve got a guy that’s used to catching the ball that probably hasn’t punted since high school versus a guy that kicks the ball every day that hasn’t caught it.


(on who finished next in the emergency punting competition)


That’s extremely confidential information.


(on if he expects the replacement punter to work as a holder)


The perfect world would be that our punter would also hold.

[Cicero]

I'm getting way ahead of myself as my 3rd round pick isn't till Thursday but I'm really bored and maybe this will spark some interesting discussion.

The highest players on my board at the moment are OLB Bruce Carter, WR Terrance Toliver, CB Patrick Robinson, FS Morgan Burnett, DE/OLB Ricky Sapp, and QB Jake Locker. I'm sure you would like to see a lot of those guys in a Titans uniform but I only get to take one (well I might get really lucky and get one more in round 4) but who would you give top priority?

Other available players I have seen rated highly not listed above: WR Dezmon Briscoe, WR Demaryius Thomas, WR Golden Tate, WR Mike Williams, WR Jacoby Ford, DE Greg Romeus, DT Marvin Austin, DT Laurence Marsh, CB Syd'Quan Thompson, CB Brandon Ghee, OT Selvish Capers

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm getting way ahead of myself as my 3rd round pick isn't till Thursday but I'm really bored and maybe this will spark some interesting discussion.

The highest players on my board at the moment are OLB Bruce Carter, WR Terrance Toliver, CB Patrick Robinson, FS Morgan Burnett, DE/OLB Ricky Sapp, and QB Jake Locker. I'm sure you would like to see a lot of those guys in a Titans uniform but I only get to take one (well I might get really lucky and get one more in round 4) but who would you give top priority?

Other available players I have seen rated highly not listed above: WR Dezmon Briscoe, WR Demaryius Thomas, WR Golden Tate, WR Mike Williams, WR Jacoby Ford, DE Greg Romeus, DT Marvin Austin, DT Laurence Marsh, CB Syd'Quan Thompson, CB Brandon Ghee, OT Selvish Capers

-Jake Locker
-Patrick Robinson
-Dezmon Briscoe
-Demayrius Thomas
-Golden Tate
-Greg Romeus
-Ricky Sapp
-Syd'Quan Thompson
-Terrance Tolliver

My order would go something like that.

[TitanHope]

Ok, so as you guys may know, this weekend is a legacy game. The Titans will be in their Oilers throwbacks, and the Jets will be in their NY Titans throwbacks. Apparently, there's a reporter in the Nashville media that's just enthralled with the notion that essentially the Titans (TN) will be playing the Titans (NY), except the normal Titans (TN) won't be the Titans at all because they'll be the Oilers. I'm watching interviews from Wednesday practice, and this guy asked Jeff Fisher about it. Fish answered it and at the end playfully said, "The guys are looking forward to it, look a little different." You think, ok, question is over, but oh no, not for this guy. He restates the question, and Fisher goes, "Yes, even though it’s the Titans playing the Oilers, it’s the Jets playing the Titans. I kinda figured that out..." and looks around at the other reporters and does that little Fish smirk.

I laughed out loud at 3:30 AM. Dunno why I thought that was so funny, but random things become funnier the later it gets. But yeah, I move on to the next recorded interview that looked most interesting, which was Bulluck's. About 4 minutes into the interview, a guy from the far right blurts out, "Keith, what do you think it'll feel like going against the Titans?" I just hit pause. I...I couldn't handle it. Keith shrugged and kind've laughed, then said how it's just a name and it doesn't do anything for them.

Anyway...just thought I'd share. Check out the TitansOnline.com (http://www.titansonline.com/media-center/all-videos.html) website for all the post-practice interviews and media sessions!

Bulluck's in particular was great. He talked about how the defense was gonna improve, and guaranteed that the defense that showed up against the Texans would never be back. KVB seems to always be shirtless whenever he gets interviewed. Totally understand that though, cuz honestly, who's gonna look at KVB and tell him to put a shirt on? Not me, especially when he's wearing those red contacts. *shudders*

EDIT! THE DUDE ASKED JEVON KEARSE THE TITANS VS TITANS QUESTION IN THE KEARSE INTERVIEW!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! It's like f'in "Where's Waldo?" Kearse's answer was by far the best. A little after the question, he got asked if he wanted to get a crushing sack on Mark Sanchez in order to kind've throw the rookie off, and Kearse goes, "We goin' for a couple of 'em. *laughs* We're goin' for a couple of 'em during the first drive. We wanna let 'em know who the real Titans are. They can have the name for a day, but we're gonna show them how to play some real Titan ball." Sweeeeeeeeeet!

Also, if the Titans ever make a barbershop quartet, Kearse will definitely by the barritone. Man that guy's voice is deep!

Oh, and before I forget, Cary Williams was released in order to sign a Punter named Reggie Hodges. They signed AJ Trapasso to the practice squad too. Hentrich will probably play later in the season. Hodges looks like a short term solution, and he's also a holder like Hentrich is. Trapasso looks like the long term answer, and we'll keep him tucked away until Hentrich hangs up his cleets and calls it a career - a wonderful one at that. He's a great punter, even to this day. Younger guys may have stronger legs, but Hentrich can put the ball accurately and put spin on it. His kicks are hard to catch because he can send a knuckling punt at opposing returners who may muff the catch. He deserves more credit, really.

[DoughBoy]

Wow Steve being gone just came back and kicked me in the rear, I dont know where it came from but all the sudden I just started thinking about him and I felt as bad as I did when he got killed.I dont ever react this way when a celebrity dies but Steve feels like a guy you were friends with. Its hard just sitting down and remembering him.

[DoughBoy]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d812e3cfb/CJ-I-won-t-lay-down

[Cicero]

I got Locker. Robinson got selected right before my pick so that made my choice a little easier although I was leaning towards taking my boy anyways. Derrick Morgan was my round 1 choice and Locker was my 3rd round pick.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I got Locker. Robinson got selected right before my pick so that made my choice a little easier although I was leaning towards taking my boy anyways. Derrick Morgan was my round 1 choice and Locker was my 3rd round pick.

Good stuff man. That's a steal. I wouldn't have minded if you took him in the first.

[TitanHope]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d812e3cfb/CJ-I-won-t-lay-down

Ok, I'm lost...what does "kiss da baby" mean?

I love CJ, and the recognition and media time he's getting is fantastic. But...he can be suckered into answering questions and baited into giving out quotes that the reporter is wanting.

Like, for example, in the Wednesday practice media interview, a reporter asked CJ if he was afraid Kerry wouldn't see he was uncovered on that one TD reception. CJ said no, that he was the first read on that play - which is too much info. And in this interview, he said that the Ravens took him out of the playoff game with a cheap shot. Now, that's basically true and everyone thinks so, but for him to actually say it...the week before we play Rex Ryan's new team...maybe not the best time.

CJ's very straight forward and honest, though, which is refreshing. Love his postgame interviews on what his thoughts on the game were, and I think he has the makings of a very good leader for this team.

[TitanHope]

Vincent Fuller is likely out for the season with a broken forearm.

http://www.titansradio.com/Article.asp?id=1519343&spid=27572

[CashmoneyDrew]

Vincent Fuller is likely out for the season with a broken forearm.

http://www.titansradio.com/Article.asp?id=1519343&spid=27572

I guess Cary Williams will only have been out of a job for about a week. Unless they try and go after a true nickelback.

[TitanHope]

Yeah, Cary Williams or Tanard Davis would be good. I like McCourty's future at NB, though. He's a solid tackler.

Vinny is a huge loss though.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Well, looking at our current remaining schedule and getting a feel for the teams we're playing, I'm calling a 6-10 finish.

[islandboy843]

This is the best 0-3 team ever...that is all

[aNYtitan]

Its really sad the ways we have lost so far, we could easily be 3-0 as well. The pass defense is probably the number one concern and then the QB situation and pass rush is the second large concern.

[TitanHope]

To pick up spirits!

A2I4_UP8_2M

:D:D:D

Another awesome vid:

9PCRzi6p--s

"Check my resume'!!!"

[TitanHope]

Titans are working out CB Rod Hood, per NFL Network.

Hood would be a great signing. He's an average starting CB, but he's a very good Nickelback. Plus, if there's an injury outside, he'd be a better option than a rookie. Hood also returned kicks a few seasons ago.

It also seems that Fuller is only out 4-6 weeks, not all season. That's great news!

[TitanHope]

Chris Henry was cut today...no joke.

srUo2MDngJE

I admit, I'll kinda miss the guy. :D

Lots of other moves today:

Signed:
WR/KR Mark Jones
S Kevin Kaesviharn

Released:
RB Chris Henry

PS Add:
CB Cary Williams

PS Drop:
FB Rodney Ferguson

IR'd:
P Craig Hentrich

http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Titans-Sign-Kick-Returner-Mark-Jones-Make-Other-Roster-Moves/7ab2ed25-c547-40ed-9d52-72bf3c15a059

Eric Green, Roderick Hood, Mark Jones, Kevin Kaesviharn, and another unnamed safety were worked out. Jones and Kaesviharn were signed out of the group.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Busy day. Not sure if we really got any players, but at least we got rid of Chris Henry and gained a Keanu Reeves look-a-like.

[DoughBoy]

I thought Chris Henry was blind? Wont we have to pay him comp for cutting him?

[DoughBoy]

I dont know about this Kevin Kaesviharn signing..The dude is like a 100 years old and has been a wash-out for the last 2 years. I thought we would pick up a vet with potential.

[aNYtitan]

Where is the special teams returner we need in that group?

[TitanHope]

I dont know about this Kevin Kaesviharn signing..The dude is like a 100 years old and has been a wash-out for the last 2 years. I thought we would pick up a vet with potential.

http://www.nflplayers.com/images/players/30345.jpg

"Dude, harsh!"

Where is the special teams returner we need in that group?

Mark Jones? Hopefully he can be the reliable returner needed, or were ya just bein' sarcastic? ;)

[TitanHope]

Scaife is back in practice!

Also, looks like LenDale has the flu. I believe both Eugene Amano and Vince Young were inactive last week because they were sick too. Hope this doesn't become a further issue. :( We need LenDale and Amano both good to go this Sunday against Jax.

LenDale needs more touches. He's not the homerun hitter CJ is, but it seems CJ either goes 10+ yards or 0 yards. He was very East-West against the Jets; always looking to get around the edge for the bigger gain rather than getting what he could. We need less 1-3-0-2-12-1-3-24-0 gains and more 3-4-3-3-2-4-10-3 gains. The latter translates to shorter 3rd downs, and manageable 3rd downs will equal longer drives. I think LenDale can help with that.

[DoughBoy]

100% agree about Lendale.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I swore I saw Amano playing during the jets game.

[DoughBoy]

He was on the active roster but he did not start. I think Jeff said he would have gone in had Harris got hurt.

[Cicero]

Mock draft is over.

27. Derrick Morgan, DE Georgia Tech
91. Jake Locker, QB Washington
106. Bruce Carter, OLB UNC (Traded Scaife for this pick)
123. Perrish Cox, CB OK State

[TitansCJftw]

Well i guess i'm a hater(ya i am admittedly) but i'd rather see javon ringer get some carries than white, he's probably the most natural runner we have although he doesnt have the bulk that lendale does he runs behind his pads well plus i just want lendale off the team! hah i said it! :eek:

[TitanHope]

Mock draft is over.

27. Derrick Morgan, DE Georgia Tech
91. Jake Locker, QB Washington
106. Bruce Carter, OLB UNC (Traded Scaife for this pick)
123. Perrish Cox, CB OK State

Looks good to me. Getting a pick for Scaife was good, but I'm not familiar with Carter. Morgan, Locker, and Cox are good with me and great value.

Well i guess i'm a hater(ya i am admittedly) but i'd rather see javon ringer get some carries than white, he's probably the most natural runner we have although he doesnt have the bulk that lendale does he runs behind his pads well plus i just want lendale off the team! hah i said it! :eek:

Eh, I think LenWhale gets too much hate and criticism than he deserves. I don't quite understand everyone's infatuation with Ringer either. Not just yet at least. He's still a rookie and hasn't proven himself, meanwhile LenWhale's TD run against the Jets shows what he brings to the team.

[Geo]

So Finnegan has a hurt hammy. I think he should sit out the Jags game this week and the Colts game next week. Let it properly heal.

I say this only because a hamstring can derail a season, he and the Titans don't want that.

Not because I have David Garrard on my fantasy team and because I am a Colts fan.

[TitanHope]

Not because I have David Garrard on my fantasy team and because I am a Colts fan.

Child please!!!

I'd rather Finny miss this week so he can suit up against the Colts. Garrard, Sims-Walker, and Holt < Manning, Wayne, and Clark.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Jason McCourty has that side on lock-down anyways. Take all the time you need Finny!

[DoughBoy]

Jason McCourty>>>>>>>Nnamdi Asomugha

[TitanHope]

I'm actually very confident in McCourty and Mouton. Both were impressive in preseason, and Mouton even got a Pick Six against Tampa Bay. But McCourty was most impressive to me, and he's got the speed and physicality needed. Plus, he's wearing Eric King's #30, so you know he's good. :D

[TitanHope]

QB Patrick Ramsey was released, and CB Cary Williams was brought up from the Practice Squad.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091003/SPORTS01/91003022/1027/Titans+release+QB+Ramsey++elevate+CB+Williams

Wonder who gets the vacated PS spot.

Also, in a bit of off topic news, it turns out that one of them Erin Andrews nudie films was shot in a Nashville hotel room. Getting an odd, misplaced proud feeling from that... ;)

[DoughBoy]

Is there more than 1 Erin Andrews film? I have only seen the first. :(

Kinda of suprised Ramsey got cut. I would like to see them bring in a developmental QB with the last practice squad spot.

[TitanHope]

Is there more than 1 Erin Andrews film? I have only seen the first. :(

Kinda of suprised Ramsey got cut. I would like to see them bring in a developmental QB with the last practice squad spot.

"FBI agents said seven of the eight videos posted online were taken through a modified door peephole while Andrews was alone and undressed in hotel rooms in Nashville, Tenn., in September 2008."

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091003/SPORTS0604/91003010/1027/Titans%20release%20QB%20Ramsey%20%20elevate%20CB%2 0Williams/Erin+Andrews+nude+videos+shot+in+Nashville+hotel++ FBI+says

The dude probably had more footage. The stuff that hit the web was just the leaked stuff. Reports are that he was trying to sell some of it to tabloid sites like TMZ, etc.

I'd say Chris Henry or Rodney Ferguson get the last PS slot.

[CashmoneyDrew]

So that was probably around the time ESPN was in town for the Vanderbilt and Auburn game.
I wasn't involved if you guys were wondering! :p

[EvilNixon]

Question for the Titans fans,how much confidence do you have in VY as a starter?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Question for the Titans fans,how much confidence do you have in VY as a starter?

Me personally, not a whole lot. But I'm not going to pretend that that is a totally unbiased answer considering I didn't want us drafting Vince since jump street.

[DoughBoy]

Question for the Titans fans,how much confidence do you have in VY as a starter?

If he came off the bench if Kerry got hurt I would not be worried because teams wouldnt be ready for him. If he came in as the starter heading into the game however.....Im just not sure. I want him to do well, we all do, but he has shown us nothing as a starter.

[aNYtitan]

Question for the Titans fans,how much confidence do you have in VY as a starter?

A lot more confidence then I have in Kerry Collins at this time. I was one of the minority on this board in drafting VY (I was also a fan of Leinart instead of Cutler, so look at that lol). I would like him to be a starter just because he has shown he could win games when it comes down to the QB making plays. These past couple of games, Collins hasn't shown that. He has actually cost us games versus Houston and New York. In terms of decision making, of course VY is going to be a bit (if not more) worse then Kerry. But in terms of game breaking ability, VY takes that hands down.

[TitansCJftw]

A lot more confidence then I have in Kerry Collins at this time. I was one of the minority on this board in drafting VY (I was also a fan of Leinart instead of Cutler, so look at that lol). I would like him to be a starter just because he has shown he could win games when it comes down to the QB making plays. These past couple of games, Collins hasn't shown that. He has actually cost us games versus Houston and New York. In terms of decision making, of course VY is going to be a bit (if not more) worse then Kerry. But in terms of game breaking ability, VY takes that hands down.

i'm basically in total agreement and was a huge fan of his coming out of texas, but honestly i'm foaming at the mouth about our chances at getting jake locker, if you watch this guy 2 years ago he was VY make 1 read maybe 2 then take off(which he is very good at) but watch him now and he is legit pocket passer but if he tucks it he is a real threat and beast STUD

[aNYtitan]

i'm basically in total agreement and was a huge fan of his coming out of texas, but honestly i'm foaming at the mouth about our chances at getting jake locker, if you watch this guy 2 years ago he was VY make 1 read maybe 2 then take off(which he is very good at) but watch him now and he is legit pocket passer but if he tucks it he is a real threat and beast STUD

Are you talking about Locker?

[TitanHope]

I think VY has progressed as a passer. During his time in preseason, his footwork was much better, he had more zip as a result, and his passes were to spots on the field where the receiver was going to be rather than where they were. Plus, and maybe most importantly, it looked like he had his swagger back and was enjoying himself.

Is he as efficient of a passer as Collins? No, not yet. But consider the talent around Collins compared to Young's 2007 season. Young had no Chris Johnson, no Nate Washington, no Kenny Britt, no Crumpler and Scaife wasn't the player he now is, and the defense was deeper and better in '08 than it was in '07. And the return game and field position that Chris Carr produced was invaluable. Who was the returner in '07? Griffin? Chris Davis? Heck, even Chris Henry returned kicks. The result of that is now a highlight clip for the Colts.

I've never really been a big Collins fan and have always been somewhat of a VY apologist. But, Collins was the QB who was best for the team last season, and I think VY being out a season could have possibly saved his career. I still believe he's the planned QB of the future. He was the guy I wanted the Titans to get, and I saw how special of a player he was when he put Texas on his back and won them a championship. As a rookie, I saw that same player orchestrate one of the most memorable regular seasons I've ever seen the Titans have. I still think he's the same player. The NFL just caught up to him, he wasn't ready and tried to do too much, and things started snowballing for him. After sitting for a season, I think it's been a blessing in disguise and has allowed him to catch back up to this level of competition. Not to mention, he's been able to sit and learn Heimerdinger's system (which I like better than Chow's) and didn't have to learn it on the fly. He needed a year to sit, and he's had that.

If Young were to come in to play, I have confidence in him. I think by him being in there, it raises the level of play of the others around him and raises the intensity of the defense. He knows the system, is a better passer, and has talent around him that is much better than what he used to. I think 2010 is the year of Vince Young, though, and believe that Kenny Britt in his sophomore season will be a big part of it.

[The Unseen]

Good game. i don't get you guys, 0-4 is weird

[DoughBoy]

It was not a good game. :(

[TitanHope]

I really have no words for this game. Absolutely terrible performance in each and every aspect, and the momentum was in the favor of Jacksonville for the entire game.

Oh, and LenDale White had 2 carries. I know we were down the whole game, but I just wanted to point that out...

[DoughBoy]

What we need next year..

DE -KVB and Kearse are no longer good pass rushers

Linebacker - David Thorton looks bad, he is a good guy but he has lost a few steps since last year and has been terrible agianst the pass.

Saftey- Griffin has not been great but Chris Hope gets fooled by every pump fake and bootleg.

CB- Nick Harper is done after this year.

QB- Kerry has lost it.


Oh and we need a Punter and a Punt/Kick returner.



Besides that we are set.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Looks like they've packed it in unfortunately.

[TitanHope]

Cortland Finnegan, Jason Jones, and Dave Ball being inactive hurt big time. Seems JJ has become a bit injury prone...

[CashmoneyDrew]

I still kinda think we should move Jason Jones out to LE. We could use our high pick on a guy like Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy to take his DT spot and I think upgrade two spots with one pick.

[islandboy843]

Best top 10 pick team ever?

[TitanHope]

I still kinda think we should move Jason Jones out to LE. We could use our high pick on a guy like Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy to take his DT spot and I think upgrade two spots with one pick.

I agree whole heartedly. We said last year that we'd more than likely take a DT in the 1st RD of the 2010 Draft than the 2009. Even after drafting SenDerrick Marks, I think a DT early next year is a probability. Gerald McCoy would be the optimal choice, since pass-rush from the DT position is desperately needed. After him, 'Kong Suh, Arthur Jones, and Vince Oghobaase are my choices.

This is how the DEF looks next year after lost starters:

RE:
DT: Jason Jones
DT:
LE:
SLB:
MLB:
WLB: David Thornton
CB: Cortland Finnegan
CB:
FS: Michael Griffin
SS: Chris Hope

Reserves:
DE: Jacob Ford, William Hayes
DT: Jovan Haye, SenDerrick Marks
LB: Gerald McRath, Stanford Keglar
CB: Jason McCourty, Ryan Mouton

RFA's (if CBA isn't extended):
DT Tony Brown
LB Stephen Tulloch

So now we have:

DE: Jacob Ford
DT: Jason Jones
DT: Tony Brown
DE: William Hayes
SLB: Gerald McRath
MLB: Stephen Tulloch
WLB: David Thornton
CB: Cortland Finnegan
CB: Jason McCourty
FS: Michael Griffin
SS: Chris Hope

Whatever Cecil's philosophy is, he's gonna have the chance to overhaul the DEF for it. Gonna be very young as well.

DT in the 1st RD (Eric Berry if he's available), then go BPA the rest of the Draft at CB/DT (depending on that 1st RD pick), OLB, and CB with our two 3rd RD'ers and 4th RD'er.

[TitanHope]

Fisher's post-game press conference. (http://www.titansonline.com/media-center/videos/Press-Conference/fb7d4969-89f8-49d2-ac4b-1b9275359ee5)

[aNYtitan]

According to Peter King, Jeff Fisher is not going to remove Kerry Collins from the starting role.

Didn't get to watch the game (probably won't given I'm bound to work every Sunday), but I kept up with it through ESPN mobile. I'm really speechless right now, cause there are no words for the underachieving this team is displaying. Our defense looks awful, awful, awful, just awful (well the rushing defense is pretty good, pass defense = absolute fail). Not sure what to base it on, though I have a feeling part of it is Harper (who really has shown he isn't starting material anymore), lack of a pass rush on the edge (KVB and Kearse are on the bad side of 30), bad scheming or missing Fat Al.

Did we really undervalue (a) Albert Haynesworth, (b) Jim Schwartz, (c) both a and b?

And has Thorton and Hope really been that bad? We really can't make any moves on them any time soon, though it seems like biting on pump fakes should be something that can be corrected in season. IDK how you can all of a sudden lose a couple steps after one year considering he just turned 30, and he is what makes our LB core so good along with Bulluck.

It definitely is Eric Berry if we are that bad and he is still up on the board. Seems like DoughBoy thinks he can step right into Hope's position, though I have HOPE in Hope. Maybe a transition to corner? He has the athleticism for it.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

First off, I am not trolling. I just like to keep up with the Titans.

Can someone explain to me why VY is not going to start sooner rather than later? If you aren't going to use him, cut him. Next year may have an incredible quarterback crop. I really don't understand. The Titans are the best 0-4 team I can remember in many years. If I was game planning against them, Kerry Collins is the least of my concerns. I am not saying VY is the answer. I am saying all he can do is go out and lose to inferior teams. The Titans are doing that already!

I would give Young a chance now, when it doesn't matter. All I am saying is he either turns it around, or you know what you have in him. The Titans can get a quality rook at the rate they are at.

Find out if Young will ever be anything now. If he has potential, you can draft a defensive player. If he rolls titsup, you get a new shiny toy with the first pick. But I think everyone is tired of Collins going out and doing nothing to win games.

Feel free to bash me on this...

[TitanHope]

According to Peter King, Jeff Fisher is not going to remove Kerry Collins from the starting role.

Didn't get to watch the game (probably won't given I'm bound to work every Sunday), but I kept up with it through ESPN mobile. I'm really speechless right now, cause there are no words for the underachieving this team is displaying. Our defense looks awful, awful, awful, just awful (well the rushing defense is pretty good, pass defense = absolute fail). Not sure what to base it on, though I have a feeling part of it is Harper (who really has shown he isn't starting material anymore), lack of a pass rush on the edge (KVB and Kearse are on the bad side of 30), bad scheming or missing Fat Al.

Did we really undervalue (a) Albert Haynesworth, (b) Jim Schwartz, (c) both a and b?

And has Thorton and Hope really been that bad? We really can't make any moves on them any time soon, though it seems like biting on pump fakes should be something that can be corrected in season. IDK how you can all of a sudden lose a couple steps after one year considering he just turned 30, and he is what makes our LB core so good along with Bulluck.

It definitely is Eric Berry if we are that bad and he is still up on the board. Seems like DoughBoy thinks he can step right into Hope's position, though I have HOPE in Hope. Maybe a transition to corner? He has the athleticism for it.

Hope has been just as good as Griffin, but at least Hope makes plays stuffing the run. Neither have been up to their usual caliber.

Also, keep in mind that we were without Finnegan at CB and Jason Jones at DT. Not only that, but Fuller is out for a while with a broken wrist and Nick Harper went down midgame with a rib injury. At the end of the game, it was Jason McCourty, Ryan Mouton, and Cary Williams out there.

First off, I am not trolling. I just like to keep up with the Titans.

Can someone explain to me why VY is not going to start sooner rather than later? If you aren't going to use him, cut him. Next year may have an incredible quarterback crop. I really don't understand. The Titans are the best 0-4 team I can remember in many years. If I was game planning against them, Kerry Collins is the least of my concerns. I am not saying VY is the answer. I am saying all he can do is go out and lose to inferior teams. The Titans are doing that already!

I would give Young a chance now, when it doesn't matter. All I am saying is he either turns it around, or you know what you have in him. The Titans can get a quality rook at the rate they are at.

Find out if Young will ever be anything now. If he has potential, you can draft a defensive player. If he rolls titsup, you get a new shiny toy with the first pick. But I think everyone is tired of Collins going out and doing nothing to win games.

Feel free to bash me on this...

Lol, you're not trollin' bud. But yeah, most Titans fans agree with you. The last time Collins was the starting QB heading into the season, the Titans went 0-5. Then VY came in and helped save the season. It's not like this is unknown territory.

If we lose to Indy and New England with Collins at the helm, I think Fisher will be forced to play Young. The bye week is after those two games, so VY will have that time to prepare. Fortunately, the schedule becomes a lot easier then.

[TitanHope]

Looks like Harper and Finnegan are questionable to play against the Colts. I don't mind the loss of Harper, since I'm growing tired of his mile-wide cushion he gives to receivers, but Finnegan is a must play. Not only is he our best cover corner, but the energy he emits is contagious. Hopefully he improves as the week goes on, because McCourty and Mouton starting spells disaster in an already disadvantageous game. McCourty got abused against the Jags too - they just went straight after him from the get go.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm utterly terrified of what Peyton Manning is going to do to us after seeing what QBs like Garrard and Schaub and Sanchez have done. No offense to them, they just aren't Peyton Manning.

[aNYtitan]

Looks like Harper and Finnegan are questionable to play against the Colts. I don't mind the loss of Harper, since I'm growing tired of his mile-wide cushion he gives to receivers, but Finnegan is a must play. Not only is he our best cover corner, but the energy he emits is contagious. Hopefully he improves as the week goes on, because McCourty and Mouton starting spells disaster in an already disadvantageous game. McCourty got abused against the Jags too - they just went straight after him from the get go.

Yeah and Manning will probably pick the young starters apart. Hopefully Finny can make it, and Cecil will finally realize dropping 7-8 into coverage doesn't work!

[islandboy843]

I need to know the free agents of the next offseason so i can threaten them all to come to the Titans.

[Macarthur]

Is there any scuttle butt around about Fisher's job being in trouble there?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Is there any scuttle butt around about Fisher's job being in trouble there?

None. The only way I see him leaving after this season is if it's somehow voluntary.

[DoughBoy]

I need to know the free agents of the next offseason so i can threaten them all to come to the Titans.

Here you go...http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html

My wish list-

Richard Marshall

Marlin Jackson

Terrence McGee

Carlos Rodgers

Ellis Dumerville

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

First off, I am not trolling. I just like to keep up with the Titans.

Can someone explain to me why VY is not going to start sooner rather than later? If you aren't going to use him, cut him. Next year may have an incredible quarterback crop. I really don't understand. The Titans are the best 0-4 team I can remember in many years. If I was game planning against them, Kerry Collins is the least of my concerns. I am not saying VY is the answer. I am saying all he can do is go out and lose to inferior teams. The Titans are doing that already!

I would give Young a chance now, when it doesn't matter. All I am saying is he either turns it around, or you know what you have in him. The Titans can get a quality rook at the rate they are at.

Find out if Young will ever be anything now. If he has potential, you can draft a defensive player. If he rolls titsup, you get a new shiny toy with the first pick. But I think everyone is tired of Collins going out and doing nothing to win games.

Feel free to bash me on this...

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/15684/original/1252052858403.jpg


Srsly though I agree. Let's see some Vinsanity!!!!

[aNYtitan]

LOL random up there

But in regards to the free agent list, I wish we could ante up for Julius Peppers, but I know that dream ain't coming true.

1. Dunta Robinson
2. Marlin Jackson
3. Carlos Rogers

Do people think any 3-4 olb's can make that transition to a 4-3 down lineman?

[CashmoneyDrew]

LOL random up there

But in regards to the free agent list, I wish we could ante up for Julius Peppers, but I know that dream ain't coming true.

1. Dunta Robinson
2. Marlin Jackson
3. Carlos Rogers

Do people think any 3-4 olb's can make that transition to a 4-3 down lineman?

DeMarcus Ware would be a beast RE but no way Jerrah is letting him out of Dallas.

[aNYtitan]

DeMarcus Ware would be a beast RE but no way Jerrah is letting him out of Dallas.

Yeah I know he wouldn't and Ware loves playing in Dallas. But what about Merriman? Lots of people feel that he is on his way out of SD.

[TitanHope]

There are some possibilities. Dunno if we'd antie up for any big name FA's, aside from CB. I like Marlin Jackson's fit, and if dreams came true, somehow working out a deal for Sheldon Brown of the Eagles. Dude is shut down, and can lay guys out. Finny, Brown, Griffin, and Hope = teh sex!

Speaking of Finny, he's declared himself elligible to play this Sunday night after limitedly participating in practice. Great news!!!

[CashmoneyDrew]

A name to look out for IMO is Aaron Kampman.

[aNYtitan]

A name to look out for IMO is Aaron Kampman.

Thats a big one, you think Ted Thompson won't tag him though?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Off-topic, but aNYTitan I suggested TitanHope as a friend to you on FB.
Oh and Stephenson, Pitbull, Smitty, OZ, islandboy, doughboy, CJFtw, smash n dash........ you guys can add me as a friend too if you want! :D
I figure we'll need each others "friendship" in what might be a long season.

[killxswitch]

Colts fan here, I'm not trolling. Just wondering what, if anything, the Titans have done with the wildcat. The Colts sucked trying to stop Miami's wildcat offense, and Fisher always seems tricky especially when you guys are having a down year. A wildcat formation with VY and Chris Johnson would be frustrating to defend.

[DoughBoy]

I dont think you should worry about it. We are morally opposed to the wildcat for some reason.

[TitanHope]

Yeah, I don't really know. Knowing Fish, the first play of the game could have Vince Young in there. You guys remember the 1st play against San Diego in the '07 Playoffs? That was a trick formation. It didn't really work that well, but still. He's not afraid to mix it up on play one.

I'm not looking for many desperation attempts ala onside kicking it multiple times like they did one year. Unlike that season, the current Titans and Colts teams aren't that far apart talent wise. If anything, some gimmicky plays like the Wildcat could be used to pump up the stadium and try to spark the team.

I haven't heard anything about them testing it out in practice at any point this season, so I'm not holding out for it. But, if they were practicing it, they'd do it in the indoor facility and not tell the media, so who really knows.

[TitansCJftw]

i havent posted in a while its cause im sadddddd :(

[Cicero]

I have a conundrum. I'm doing another forum mock and I can't decide who to take between Gerald McCoy and Sam Bradford (Locker, Clausen gone). Any quick thoughts?

Went with Bradford. Nothing is more important then the franchise QB although it was extremely hard to pass on McCoy. If I was doing this and trying to emulate the Titans FO the pick would have been McCoy.

[TitanHope]

Probably would've gone with McCoy, but I can't really argue with Bradford - if he is a franchise QB, you have to take him. What pick overall did the Titans? I'm kinda surprised that both Locker and Clausen were taken ahead of Bradford and McCoy

[Cicero]

Probably would've gone with McCoy, but I can't really argue with Bradford - if he is a franchise QB, you have to take him. What pick overall did the Titans? I'm kinda surprised that both Locker and Clausen were taken ahead of Bradford and McCoy

They had the 10th pick this time. Wow I completely missed him getting picked because they didn't post a picture. I feel like a ****** now lol. McCoy it is.

First 9 picks:

1. St. Louis-Jimmy Clausen,QB
2. Kansas City-Russell Okung,OT
3. Tampa Bay-Eric Berry
4. Cleveland- Sam Bradford
5. Oakland- Taylor Mays
6. Washington- Trent Williams
7. Detroit- Ndamukong Suh
8. San Francisco - from Carolina- Calros Dunlap
9. Buffalo- Jake Locker

[aNYtitan]

Off-topic, but aNYTitan I suggested TitanHope as a friend to you on FB.
Oh and Stephenson, Pitbull, Smitty, OZ, islandboy, doughboy, CJFtw, smash n dash........ you guys can add me as a friend too if you want! :D
I figure we'll need each others "friendship" in what might be a long season.
Awesome, that works with me. Maybe you guys can show me the ins and outs of the Tennessee Vols, I mean all I know is Eric Berry and Monte Kiffin and Lane Kiffin and that's bout it. Out here in NY, not a whole lot of regional sports at all. Basically following the Fighting Irish because they always have their games on tv and they have a partnership with the Yanks lol
They had the 10th pick this time. Wow I completely missed him getting picked because they didn't post a picture. I feel like a ****** now lol. McCoy it is.

First 9 picks:

1. St. Louis-Jimmy Clausen,QB
2. Kansas City-Russell Okung,OT
3. Tampa Bay-Eric Berry
4. Cleveland- Sam Bradford
5. Oakland- Taylor Mays
6. Washington- Trent Williams
7. Detroit- Ndamukong Suh
8. San Francisco - from Carolina- Calros Dunlap
9. Buffalo- Jake Locker
Yeah, IMO that is a much better pick. Like I have been saying, Bud Adams still loves VY and until we absolutely know that he isn't the future at the QB position, he is going to stick on our team, and I still think he will be our future starting QB (probably this season, and maybe when we get to like 0-6, we can not worry about drafting a future QB, but a future defensive GOD in Eric Berry). McCoy is considered by Scott as the best DT in the draft, and as good a defensive DT against the run as their is (which is what Fat Al used to give us).

[CashmoneyDrew]

You should definitely become a Vols fan if you're looking for a college team aNYtitan! We need more on this site. :D

[aNYtitan]

You should definitely become a Vols fan if you're looking for a college team aNYtitan! We need more on this site. :D

I'm like adopting teams, cause I know its going to be tough keeping up with them, except for the Vols who you guys seemingly have an infinite amount of knowledge on.

[vikes_28]

Dear Titans fans,

Being a small fan of the Titans since they were in the SuperBowl in 1999, I deeply apologize for the Titans going 0-5 to start the season. I am not being a troll, I am just as sad as you are.

With all seriousness, I hate to see a team that started 8-0 last season, start 0-5 this season. It confuses me that something is not going right. As far as I can see, the Titans have had a really tough schedule. Please don't hurt my rep...

[aNYtitan]

Dear Titans fans,

Being a small fan of the Titans since they were in the SuperBowl in 1999, I deeply apologize for the Titans going 0-5 to start the season. I am not being a troll, I am just as sad as you are.

With all seriousness, I hate to see a team that started 8-0 last season, start 0-5 this season. It confuses me that something is not going right. As far as I can see, the Titans have had a really tough schedule. Please don't hurt my rep...

We won't vikes, cause everything you say is what we feel. It is truly unexplainable to see how a team with such high hopes one season has fallen so far the following season. It needs to get fixed soon.

[DoughBoy]

Dear Titans fans,

Being a small fan of the Titans since they were in the SuperBowl in 1999, I deeply apologize for the Titans going 0-5 to start the season. I am not being a troll, I am just as sad as you are.

With all seriousness, I hate to see a team that started 8-0 last season, start 0-5 this season. It confuses me that something is not going right. As far as I can see, the Titans have had a really tough schedule. Please don't hurt my rep...

Way to kick us while we are down.

[vikes_28]

Way to kick us while we are down.

I'm sorry :(

http://z.hubpages.com/u/95110_f260.jpg

[vikes_28]

I know this might sound creepy/ demonic/ crazy/ ****** up... but I was talking with one of my friends the other day, who is a Titans fan, which is why I kinda root for them, he said that the Titans are doing so bad because he thinks that Steve McNair is haunting them. I cocked my head to the side and I said, "Huh, I never really thought of it that way."

[CashmoneyDrew]

We started 11-0 last year...... and your friend is ********.

[TitanHope]

First off, I am not trolling...

Colts fan here, I'm not trolling...

I am not being a troll...

:D

And no, I don't buy any part of the "haunting" by McNair thing. He was embraced by the entire Nashville and Titans community, and everyone was shocked and in disbelief when we learned he passed. Heck, he was inducted into our ring of honor just last season, and this season the team is wearing "9" decals on their helmets in tribute to McNair.

Naw, if anything, McNair's spirit would be helping the team win, not lose.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

I'm sorry :(

http://z.hubpages.com/u/95110_f260.jpg

http://www.gamethreat.net/forums/attachments/flame-board/13949d1249582847-dark_mage-dead-yous-trollin.jpg

Cdiz0k0Rudw

[vikes_28]

http://www.gamethreat.net/forums/attachments/flame-board/13949d1249582847-dark_mage-dead-yous-trollin.jpg

Cdiz0k0Rudw

SABF, see what I said about that video in RDT11

[TitanHope]

Golf Digest ranked the best golfers who are/were professional athletes in other sports. Who came in at #2? Craig F**kin' Hentrich!!!

Suck on that Michael Jordan! Our Punter owns your HoF butt. All Ben Roethlisberger's birdies belongs to to Craig Hentrich!!!

[MicktheGreat]

So...what FAs would you like to see the Titans pursue this offseason (knowing that, in all reality, they probably won't)???

My List:
1. DE Aaron Kampman (and Re-Sign KVB)
Re-sign KVB to a short-term deal and give him some help on the other side. Jacob Ford is primarily a pass-rush specialist. Dave Ball is a depth guy. William Hayes could be a starter eventually but is still probably 1-2 years away (and he'd probably take KVB's spot in the long-term anyway). Kampman's a stud pass-rusher and plays the run tough as well. Plus, he's probably not in the Packers' long-term plans as he doesn't fit the 3-4 scheme. Could be a bargain in a DE market that includes Julius Peppers, DeMarcus Ware, and Elvis Dumervil.

2. LB Derrick Johnson
Bulluck's a goner in FA this offseason. Again, like Kampman, DJ's a poor fit for his team's new 3-4 scheme, which means he should be available. He'd fit in perfectly at MLB, allowing us to move Tulloch over to OLB, where the team seems to want him eventually anyway (if preseason has been any indication).

3. CB Marlin Jackson OR CB Ellis Hobbs
Harper's gone this offseason. There are bigger names out there -- i.e. Dunta Robinson, Carlos Rogers, etc. It's unlikely that the Titans would pursue any #1-calibur CB; however, Jackson (if healthy) or Hobbs would be a great compliment to Finnegan on the other side.

4. WR Josh Reed OR WR Lance Moore
I think we need a slot WR. Britt & Washington are our future starting WRs. Gage isn't cut out for the slot. Both Reed & Moore have the game to fit the position and would be relative bargains in a FA market that will likely include names like Brandon Marshall, Terrell Owens, and Vincent Jackson.


Really...I want us to bring in a combo of either DL/LB/WR or CB/LB/WR. That way we can use our 1st round pick on either a DL or a CB (whichever we don't address in FA) and use one of our mid-round picks on a developmental QB (like a Tim Hiller, Zac Robinson, or Tony Pike).

Of course...we probably won't bring in any of the above-mentioned players (with the exception of maybe Josh Reed or Lance Moore). It isn't Reinfeldt's style to bring in actual game-changing player. He's more likely to scour the bottom of the barrel for "bargains" that would be backups on any other NFL team. Ugh...Can you tell how frustrated I am right now with this team?!

[TitansCJftw]

#2 would be great, kampan no thanks on another oldy, as far as wr's go no thanks on either options just a couple of run of the mill bs wr's like we already have for christs sake we need a #1 wr i mean when is this going to be taken care of?, ANY cb who is halfway decent is more than welcome, grrrrrrrr ()*$)(@&*$()*@&$()*@&$)(*@&$)(*@&%&#*$^*&#^$@*(&#$^@(*&

[scottyboy]

http://blog.nj.com/rutgers_football/2008/11/medium_mcourt01.jpg

I believe this sex is starting for you tomorrow? win

[CashmoneyDrew]

http://blog.nj.com/rutgers_football/2008/11/medium_mcourt01.jpg

I believe this sex is starting for you tomorrow? win

He's played a lot so far this season. I've been more impressed with him than Mouton so far. I'd actually rather have McCourty starting than Nick Harper at this point.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Ugh, this season has been ****** since jump street.

[TitansCJftw]

ya this is bad..., #1 pick?:( , still confused why vince young isnt in there

[CashmoneyDrew]

This is pitiful. I can handle a loss if we show up and play hard, but this team seems content with just showing up and going through the motions. No energy, no heart or resilience. To be honest, it might just be best to clean house this offseason. Especially if we plan on drafting a new QB.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Players That Need To Go This Off-season
- Keith Bulluck (:()
- Nick Harper
- KVB
- Jevon Kearse
- Lendale White
- Alge Crumpler
- Kevin Mawae
- Kerry Collins

Players That are Borderline
- David Thornton
- Stephen Tulloch
- Tony Brown
- Eugene Amano
- Justin Gage

[Hawk]

I'm sorry, but this is the most embarrassing performance by a football team that I've ever seen.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm sorry, but this is the most embarrassing performance by a football team that I've ever seen.

Damn straight it is. I think the 08 Lions would have put up a better fight. This team has no heart.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

This is pretty bad, but look at the bright side. The stage is now set for the greatest Vince Young comeback the world has ever known.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Has Vince Young ever even seen snow?

[CashmoneyDrew]

Players That Need To Go This Off-season
- Keith Bulluck (:()
- Nick Harper
- KVB
- Jevon Kearse
- Lendale White
- Alge Crumpler
- Kevin Mawae
- Kerry Collins

Players That are Borderline
- David Thornton
- Stephen Tulloch
- Tony Brown
- Eugene Amano
- Justin Gage

**** it. Get rid of all of the borderliners as well.

[MicktheGreat]

Ugh...that was embarrassing.
I've never seen such a poor performance...by any team...at any level.

Time for Bud Adams to step-up and clean house, starting with Fisher. Dude just looks like he doesn't care -- like he's just going through the motions (I don't know why...maybe the McNair death affected him even more than anyone thought...maybe he's just lost it...dunno). Both Heimerdinger & Cecil are TERRIBLE play-callers. Lowry's firing is a no-brainer, as ST have been horrible in every game.

Of course, none of this will happen because Bud's blinded by his loyalty to Fisher.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Ugh...that was embarrassing.
I've never seen such a poor performance...by any team...at any level.

Time for Bud Adams to step-up and clean house, starting with Fisher. Dude just looks like he doesn't care -- like he's just going through the motions (I don't know why...maybe the McNair death affected him even more than anyone thought...maybe he's just lost it...dunno). Both Heimerdinger & Cecil are TERRIBLE play-callers. Lowry's firing is a no-brainer, as ST have been horrible in every game.

Of course, none of this will happen because Bud's blinded by his loyalty to Fisher.

Please he's cheap and doesn't want to pay them to leave as well as a new staff.

[EvilNixon]

What's wrong with the Titans? Any of you fans care to give your theory?

[DoughBoy]

What's wrong with the Titans? Any of you fans care to give your theory?

My theory? We suck at everything from play-calling to execution.

[DoughBoy]

Only players playing like they are worth a damn

Chris Johnson
David Stewart
Ahmard Hall(even though his fumbles and holding penelties piss me off)
Micheal Roos
Javon Ringer
Jason Jones
William Hayes
Cortland Finnegan(when healthy)

The rest can GTFO

[TitanHope]

Well, we're certainly not a cold-weather team, that's for sure. ;)

[DoughBoy]

Our starting roster should be

QB-Vince Young-see what you got in him
RB-Chris Johnson (sexs) Javon Ringer(Lendale carries the ball like a loaf of bread and is hurt)
FB-Ahmard Hall-still a hammer
WR-Nate Washington-good
WR-Kenny Britt-good for a rookie
WR-Dominique Edison-Cut Gage, dude is a ghost
TE-Jared Cook-Scaife gets hurt alot and is no franchise player
O-Line Stays

DE-William Hayes-Good, plays hard, still does not get enough reps
DT-Jason Jones-WTF is that dude from tampa doing starting? he is a bigger ghost than Gage.
DT-?????????
DE-Jacob Ford- KVB :(

OLB-Keith Bulluck-He is a shell of his former self but he is an still an okay player
MLB-Gerald McRath-Tulluch gets lost and blows assignments way to often.
OLB-Stanford Kegler-Thorton has blown so many cover assignments its laughable.

CB-Cortland Finnegan- Still good.
CB-Mouton has been alot better than McCourty IMO,
FS-Griffin, Has not played great but WTF do you expect when no one is on the same page
SS-Hope has blown alot of things but we have no depth at saftey so WTF is one to do?

K-Bironas
P-????? Hodges sucks big wiener and has a noodle for a leg.

[MicktheGreat]

Only players playing like they are worth a damn

Chris Johnson
David Stewart
Ahmard Hall(even though his fumbles and holding penelties piss me off)
Micheal Roos
Javon Ringer
Jason Jones
William Hayes
Cortland Finnegan(when healthy)

The rest can GTFO

My List:
--Chris Johnson (our best player this season...by far)
--Ahmard Hall (still one of the best FBs in the game)
--Kenny Britt (has shown potential to be legit #1 WR)
--Nate Washington (give him one more year to prove himself)
--Jared Cook (tons of talent and looked good this preseason)
--Michael Roos (still a top-flight left-tackle...a tough position to fill)
--David Stewart (too many penalties...but still a mauler in pass-block)
--Jason Jones (oft-injured...but talented and effective when healthy)
--William Hayes (not great...but getting better and better)
--Cortland Finnegan (fiesty & physical CB...needs additional help)
--Michael Griffin (don't believe he went from ProBowler to dud in 1 year)
--Chris Hope (see: Griffin...convinced it's the scheme that's killing him)

Everyone else, I think, can be replaced by someone better.

But, again, the replacements need to start with the coaching staff. If you're not going to get rid of Fisher, you MUST replace Heimerdinger, Cecil, & Lowry -- all of whom have COMPLETELY floundered with the play-calling this season. Heimerdinger's offense is too "clever" for its own good -- not to mention ineffective. With that uber-padded, super-soft zone scheme he loves so much, Cecil's playcalling is even more conservative than Schwartz's was, which is near impossible to believe. Nothing even needs to be said about Lowry's ST -- they're THAT bad.

[DoughBoy]

I used to think dinger was an awesome offensive corrdinator but now even I can whats going to happen. 3&1 and 3&2 are playaction passes. 3& 10 on our own 20 and below is a draw to Chris Johnson. All of our passes are curls and slants for the most part or a dump to Chris. Cecil, Im convinced has no feel for playcalling, period. Fisher is still a good coach, but maybe it is time to split ways. Maybe this season will do him some good knowing that he isnt some great mastermind. You need to keep your impact players in house and you need to pick your coaches better. We should have never let Haynesworth go, and we should have found a better DC than Cecil. Promote McGinnes and admit you made a mistake.

[MicktheGreat]

Our starting roster should be

QB-Vince Young-see what you got in him
RB-Chris Johnson (sexs) Javon Ringer(Lendale carries the ball like a loaf of bread and is hurt)
FB-Ahmard Hall-still a hammer
WR-Nate Washington-good
WR-Kenny Britt-good for a rookie
WR-Dominique Edison-Cut Gage, dude is a ghost
TE-Jared Cook-Scaife gets hurt alot and is no franchise player
O-Line Stays

DE-William Hayes-Good, plays hard, still does not get enough reps
DT-Jason Jones-WTF is that dude from tampa doing starting? he is a bigger ghost than Gage.
DT-?????????
DE-Jacob Ford- KVB :(

OLB-Keith Bulluck-He is a shell of his former self but he is an still an okay player
MLB-Gerald McRath-Tulluch gets lost and blows assignments way to often.
OLB-Stanford Kegler-Thorton has blown so many cover assignments its laughable.

CB-Cortland Finnegan- Still good.
CB-Mouton has been alot better than McCourty IMO,
FS-Griffin, Has not played great but WTF do you expect when no one is on the same page
SS-Hope has blown alot of things but we have no depth at saftey so WTF is one to do?

K-Bironas
P-????? Hodges sucks big wiener and has a noodle for a leg.

QB: Young (he's our QB next year, whether we like it or not)
RB: C. Johnson (should get 25 touches a game)
FB: Hall (good FB, who should be more involved in the offense)
WR: Britt (with more experience, should be a good #1 WR)
WR: Washington (got the speed...needs more reps on the outside)
TE: Cook (FAs: Scaife's gone for sure...Crumpler probably)
OT: Roos (still a franchise-calibur left-tackle)
OT: Stewart (can be a dominant run-blocker)
OG: J. Scott (good but not great lineman)
OG: ??? (FAs: Amano's gone, no doubt)
C: L. Harris (should be starting over old & ineffective Mawae anyway)

DE: Hayes (getting better with more playing time)
DE: ??? (FAs: Kearse probably gone...maybe KVB too)
DT: J. Jones (injury-prone but talented pass-rusher)
DT: ??? (FAs: Tony Brown probably gone)
OLB: ??? (FAs: Bulluck definitely gone)
MLB: ??? (FAs: Tulloch maybe gone)
OLB: Thornton (starter by default with other projected FA losses)
CB: Finnegan (physical CB)
CB: ??? (FAs: Harper's gone. McCourty & Mouton look like backups)
S: Griffin (no way he's fallen this far...has to be DEF scheme)
S: Hope (see: Griffin, I hope)

K: Bironas (one of our most consistent players)
P: ??? (Hodges is meh...so is Trepasso)


As you can see, our DEF is in some MAJOR turmoil this offseason. Reinfeldt better bring in some good (NOT "bargain") vets to fill in a couple of these positions and use the draft to stock up on the others. Otherwise, we could be in for another defense-less Titans team next season...

[DoughBoy]

Well atleast we will be picking high this year. The loss of the second hurts even though I like Jared Cook. We need to just put everyone on the trade block except the obvious and get what we can get.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Our defensive front 7 is key this offseason. I'm willing to bet Reinfeldt will sign a vet FA to plug opposite Finnegan to complete our starting secondary. I think we should use our top pick on one of the two DTs: Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy. Those guys are beasts and will help us get more push up the middle. Then we could have a starting d-line of....

DE: William Hayes
DE: Jason Jones (kicks out to end if we draft a DT high)
DT: Suh or McCoy
DT: Marks

Very young, but more talented and athletic than our current line. We could still keep Ford, Ball, Haye and Vickerson for depth.

The key then would be linebacker. We'd probably have to sign a vet since we don't have a second rounder. I personally like Derrick Johnson and I do think he'll hit the market because I don't think he fits that 3-4 well.

[TitansCJftw]

this is so terrible im not opposed to trading down our top 5 pick for more picks because of the need at so many positions its terrible its...i... no words...

[aNYtitan]

Hey guys, I started up a thread so we can move this talk about player movement and personal changes there and keep this threads focus on the current team.

And in regards to our current team, I think this grainy horrendously taped SC clip tells the story
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I'm really at a loss for words right now. I really knew something like this was bound to happen against the Pats, but its just awful out there. Even during the turnover years after we cut all of our aging veterans and replaced them on the field with youngsters, they showed some heart. The older veterans we have now just seem to really have a lack of interest in the team completely. Not to mention the play calling on both sides of the ball has been just absolutely awful. Changes need to be made, sooner rather then later imo cause the equation we have right now just isn't cutting it at all. Collins is done, is showing what happens when a team needs to rely on a game manager to win. Our defense looks like a bunch of wanderers in the secondary with our front four just getting constantly beat up cause they are the only rushers. At least we can say that there really is no place to go but up after this shellacking, and we really have bottomed out. I'm hoping that with the bye week upcoming, we can see a fresh start from our team.

[DoughBoy]

Its hard watching Jeff's press confrence this afternoon. He is a good coach and I'm not looking foward to him leaving Nashville, he has been a fixture here for what seems like forever. Im not saying I wouldn't welcome a change, just that it will suck to see him go.

Wish we could Get rid of Climer,Biddle, and Cecil instead. It would soften the blow.

[islandboy843]

*hangs myself*

CJ for OPOTY

[Matthew Jones]

In my opinion Jeff Fisher needs to go. I know I've been somewhat vocal in that I think he's just not a good head coach, but hear me out. The Titans have lost the last eight games they've played in. They were bounced from the playoffs in the first round last year with the best record in the league. In fact, Jeff Fisher hasn't won a playoff game since 2003. He has five playoff wins in 16 years, including three in one season. In the last nine years, the Titans have four winning records, four losing records, and an 8-8 year. Coaches have been fired for less. Look at Marty Schottenheimer, Mike Martz, Brian Billick, Mike Shanahan, John Gruden, etc. There came a time for the teams that fired those guys when they just didn't see those guys as coaches who could lead a team to the Super Bowl.

You don't coach to go 9-7 every year. You coach for the Super Bowl. If there's a hump that your team hasn't gotten over (and Jeff Fisher doesn't have any rings), it's time to make a change. This is like dating a girl who's only a 7/10. She's not bad, but if you have any dignity you'll try and do better for yourself. Sometimes you need to take a risk in order to do well. Besides, it's not like Fisher seems like he's really rallying the guys. On the opposite, yesterday it looked like the players completely quit on him, and I can't really see him getting back to the point where he's got the whole team under his command. Jeff Fisher seems like an okay guy and a pretty decent coach. He can take a talented team and get them to play pretty well most of the time. I'm sure he'd make a nice coach for, say, Dallas after this season. But I'm not convinced he's the guy in Tennessee.

It's a shame that Jim Schwartz already got hired, because I think he'd be a good guy for Tennessee. Ever since he left, he's won more games than Jeff Fisher, and when you look at the talent level of the Titans vs. the talent level of the Lions, the Titans have a huge edge. I remember going into this season, everyone on here was talking about how even despite losing Schwartz and Haynesworth, there were a lot of good players on this team and about how the Titans should still make a playoff run. I still believe there are a lot of talented players on the team. The only explanation is that Jeff Fisher isn't doing his job as a coach of getting the team to rally behind him. He's not putting guys in a position to win. Look at some of the other teams who had coaches lead them to pretty decent records and that moved on. The Ravens moved on from Billick - they're a pretty good club. Look at McDaniels on the Broncos. If Shanahan and Billick can be replaced, Fisher sure as hell can, too. It just needs to happen before the Titans lose all of their talent.

[aNYtitan]

Thats a really good point bringing up Shanahan, as he was another of those long time tenured head coaches that many thought would retire then get fired. It really does seem like Fisher's time is running up now, given how both the offense and defense is performing. But a change in the midst of the season? There really is no suitable replacement for him at this moment. We will just have to ride it out for now. Sadly I'm having trouble trying to come up with some coordinators that should get their shot. We definitely should hire someone a bit more defensive based though.

[chad72]

Call me crazy but the marriage will work - Marty Schottenheimer coaching the Titans. A fiery passionate coach who gives it all. He will get the Titans playing consistently well in the regular season, inside and outside the division. His teams may not have done well in the playoffs but I do not think all of it is his fault. If the Titans need a change that they will respond to, Schottenheimer could definitely be it.

[killxswitch]

How do you guys feel about this?

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2009/10/20/1093009/jeff-fisher-went-to-the-rocketown

Does it piss you off or do you even care? I'm not trying to troll, I'm just thinking if the Colts were 0-6 and Caldwell showed up somewhere in a Brady jersey I wouldn't find it funny.

[DoughBoy]

I dont care, It was meant to be taken as being funny. If we were 6-0 I might care but we are 0-6.

[703SKINS202]

So we just signed Quinton Ganther, can anyone tell me a little about him?

[DoughBoy]

So we just signed Quinton Ganther, can anyone tell me a little about him?

Great ST, good pre-season back, Can play both full-back and RB, Can come off the bench and be productive but not a starter.

[stephenson86]

chris johnson has a 6.3 ypc avg we should just give him the ball every play....seriously

not posted for a while because i have deep vein thrombosis, just got out of hospital >_<

[DoughBoy]

chris johnson has a 6.3 ypc avg we should just give him the ball every play....seriously

not posted for a while because i have deep vein thrombosis, just got out of hospital >_<

I think our combo should be Ringer, Johnson.

[TitanHope]

How do you guys feel about this?

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2009/10/20/1093009/jeff-fisher-went-to-the-rocketown

Does it piss you off or do you even care? I'm not trying to troll, I'm just thinking if the Colts were 0-6 and Caldwell showed up somewhere in a Brady jersey I wouldn't find it funny.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z142/GEOFFREYFEAR/FacePalm_picard.jpg

This was probably all planned and scripted before the worst loss in franchise history, but shouldn't somebody have stepped back and said, "Y'know, maybe this isn't the best time for a bit like this?"

It's kind've come off as a big middle finger to the Titans fanbase. Make a joke at our team's expense, and put on the jersey of a rival team's player and say you now feel like a winner...ugh...

[stephenson86]

cant wait to start a new franchise with tennessee....total overhaul...total

we just need to get our future on the field and bench the dead wood

[Matthew Jones]

So we just signed Quinton Ganther, can anyone tell me a little about him?

This guy was a beast at the combine. IIRC he had a great vertical, like 29 reps on the bench, and a pretty decent 40 time for a big guy. Never really did much in the NFL though.

[aNYtitan]

How do you guys feel about this?

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2009/10/20/1093009/jeff-fisher-went-to-the-rocketown

Does it piss you off or do you even care? I'm not trying to troll, I'm just thinking if the Colts were 0-6 and Caldwell showed up somewhere in a Brady jersey I wouldn't find it funny.

At first thought I laughed incredibly loud, thought it was funny as hell and should have been taken as a joke even to the floundering Titans fan base. I mean honestly, if our team doesn't want to get laughed about, play better on the field and win. The whole thing was of course set up beforehand, but I still didn't take it to heart.

[TitansCJftw]

despite our pathetic season im proud of cj and kenny britt, basically the only titan standing tall, collins and lendale white dont really need to play another snap they're out, then again cj and britt should only see limited duty no sense in risking major injury on this wasted season, we might as well see what vince and ringer can do since the season is over already they both have something to prove as far as being on our roster in the future although im basically positive vince is gone too, im ready for the draft and its october :(

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

I thought it was funny, but then I thought about how I would have felt last year if Shanahan went around wearing a powder blue Chargers jersey after week 17... yeah I'd be pissed as hell.

[TitansCJftw]

^^^^boxxy? wtf bro LOL and yes im ashamed i know who that is

[aNYtitan]

^^^^boxxy? wtf bro LOL and yes im ashamed i know who that is

like personally or just computer wise? cause no shame if its computer wise

[TitanHope]

I think Bulluck said it best.

“I don’t know. He said it was a joke. Funny. Whatever. It was for charity,” linebacker Keith Bulluck said.

Bulluck said Fisher explained his actions to the team.

“He’s our head coach. He doesn’t have to explain himself, but he did,” Bulluck said. “If people found it funny, then it’s funny whatever. Of course, it doesn’t sit well with everyone, but it doesn’t matter what we think. It’s one of those situations that you don’t necessarily comment on.”

Bulluck was asked if he would ever wear a Manning jersey.

“I feel like a winner anytime I put a No. 53 jersey on, so no, not at all,” the veteran linebacker said."

I like the last quote the most. :cool:

[aNYtitan]

Sadly what I get from that quote is a gist of "I don't care what my coach does, it doesn't matter to me".

Bulluck I'm going to miss you the most, heart and soul and passion of our defense.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Jesus TH, the Tits need to win a game just so you can get the Steelers avy out of there.

[stephenson86]

just so you know guys, im gunning for taylor mays come draft day :)

[TitanHope]

Jesus TH, the Tits need to win a game just so you can get the Steelers avy out of there.

I know man... :(

At least I changed it to a hot chick instead of that ugly Steelers logo. Bleh! ;)

Am I the only one who doesn't mind the "Tits" mock name? I mean, if ya gotta be called something, might as well be the best things ever made in the history of everything. I mean, we could be the Dolts, Hags, or Texans.

We got it good. :cool:

just so you know guys, im gunning for taylor mays come draft day :)

Boo Taylor Mays!!! :p

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

^^^^boxxy? wtf bro LOL and yes im ashamed i know who that is


You got a problem with boxxy? Take it up with my complaints department.

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PSO1866.jpg

[TitanHope]

Sadly what I get from that quote is a gist of "I don't care what my coach does, it doesn't matter to me".

Bulluck I'm going to miss you the most, heart and soul and passion of our defense.

I'm gonna miss him as a player!

He's on pace for 147 Total Tackles - 104 Solos and 43 Assists. That'd be his 2nd most TOT's in a season, t-1st most Solos, and 3rd most Assists.

[TitansCJftw]

You got a problem with boxxy? Take it up with my complaints department.

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PSO1866.jpg

yes sir captain jailbait:eek: :eek:

[djp]

One of you Titan fans apply for the Forum Mock!

[TitanHope]

One of you Titan fans apply for the Forum Mock!

I'd love to, but I'm loaded with school. Workin on a project right now, have to get another project start, a quiz this Friday, a test next Monday, a paper due next Friday, and homework mixed in between. I had a lot of fun in Neko's last year though, and I suggest for any of the guys here to do it. I had to control Denver instead of Tennessee, and it was a fun way to learn about other teams. Plus, I basically got to start from scratch and build the Denver 3-4 DEF from the bottom up.

I ended getting like Clay Mathews Jr., Sean Smith, James Laurinitis, Rashod Johnson, and traded for Robert Geathers, Chike Okeafor, and I believe Marcus Spears too. It was probably more fun for me to rebuild another team than draft for the Titans. :D

[aNYtitan]

One of you Titan fans apply for the Forum Mock!

I would have if I wasn't swamped with work this entire week into weekend into next week. I have no idea who unbiased is (name of our fantasy GM) but I'll keep my eyes peeled on it. There really is one way to displease me right now, well two. One is drafting a QB, the second is drafting Carlos Dunlap

[TitanHope]

Please, for the love of Eric Berry, read this!

Coach Fisher's Conference Call With Jacksonville Media. (http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Coach-Fishers-Conference-Call-With-Jacksonville-Media/0992dfc9-f927-410b-b179-93117c27a810)

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

So Vince Young is starting this week? Count me in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait for this game. This is the game I am most excited about. Titans get their first win, baby!

I think the defense will be excited, and will do everything possible to win this game. I think this is just what the doctor ordered. This team will rally. I still believe in this team. Young just being on the field will make CJ more dangerous, as the Jags will hesitate an extra second to determine whether or not Young has the ball. CJ will play like a god...all he needs is an extra second and he will be doing an endzone dance.

And as a side note, I would like to admit that I was one of the people that was complaining when the Titans drafted CJ. I thought he was just an average college runningback with a lot of speed. Boy was I wrong! He is one of the elite runningbacks in the league. Usually, I don't like to be wrong. But in this situation it is a pleasant surprise!!!

Wow. How have I set up a recipe for disappointment or what? But I can't help it. I still like Fisher as a coach, and I think this team is still a winner. I don't care what their record is. This is a good team.

[DoughBoy]

Please, for the love of Eric Berry, read this!

Coach Fisher's Conference Call With Jacksonville Media. (http://www.titansonline.com/news/article-1/Coach-Fishers-Conference-Call-With-Jacksonville-Media/0992dfc9-f927-410b-b179-93117c27a810)

(are you surprised at all you’re favored in the game?)

“I wasn’t even aware of it. Ask me in 30 seconds.”


(are you surprised at all you’re favored in the game?)

“I was just informed that. Yeah, I’d have to say so but we don’t pay much attention to that.”

LULZ wiener wiener wiener wiener and chips

[stephenson86]

i cant tell if jeff fisher is taking his job seriously any more

[Hines]

http://thomabraham.net/home1.html

Lendale and Bulluck sign a Terrible Towel.

[TitanHope]

http://thomabraham.net/home1.html

Lendale and Bulluck sign a Terrible Towel.

If we win Sunday, you can officially count me in as a believer of the TT Curse.

[TitanHope]

After reading a lot of the input from the other guys on the board, I'm reminded again why only Titans fans should talk about Titans football. :D

[aNYtitan]

i cant tell if jeff fisher is taking his job seriously any more

You got to think it has to suck when the owner goes in over your head. Have to hope the team rallies around VY, but according to Glazer, teammates still want Collins in there. I'm completely against keeping old man Collins there, cause he has proved that he is ineffective when the game rests in his hands.

[CashmoneyDrew]

I know a few of us have said that there is no way Fisher gets fired this season, but Adam Scheffter just brought up something interesting this morning. He basically agreed that there is no way Bud Adams is going to fire Jeff Fisher and eat the rest of that contract while paying a new staff, but he did say that some teams might approach Bud Adams about trading draft picks to the Titans for the rights to Fisher a la Chucky Gruden. So will a couple of first round picks and getting rid of Fisher's contract be too much to pass up?

[aNYtitan]

I know a few of us have said that there is no way Fisher gets fired this season, but Adam Scheffter just brought up something interesting this morning. He basically agreed that there is no way Bud Adams is going to fire Jeff Fisher and eat the rest of that contract while paying a new staff, but he did say that some teams might approach Bud Adams about trading draft picks to the Titans for the rights to Fisher a la Chucky Gruden. So will a couple of first round picks and getting rid of Fisher's contract be too much to pass up?

I seriously doubt it would be a first rounder that we get, though a 2nd rounder is much more plausible. For that, I wouldn't mind it. Start new and see if thats what this organization needs to get back to the playoffs and deeper once we get there.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Eh, if I was Bud I wouldn't take anything less than a 1st for him if I wanted to do that. Jon Gruden fetched two first rounders and Jeff Fisher is probably thought more highly of than Gruden was.

[stephenson86]

lol never new you could trade for a coach

[TitanHope]

Fisher was asked about Finny and Mawae being named in the Top 10 dirtiest players. I liked his answer:

(on Cortland Finnegan and Kevin Mawae being named two of the top 10 dirtiest players)

I think both of them were also selected to the Pro Bowl last year.

:D

[stephenson86]

heroic answer...your up early TH :D

[TitanHope]

heroic answer...your up early TH :D

Lol, I was up all night writing an English paper. Totally waited til the last minute, but I got that biz done!

I come visit SWDC whenever I get writer's block, though. ;)

[TitanHope]

Some very, very good articles:

Mawae fire back at Rodney Harrison - NCP (http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/mawae-fires-back-rodney-harrison)

“If Rodney Harrison wants to accuse somebody of being dirty, tell him to look at his 16 years of highlights,” Mawae said.

Hood, Titans happy to find each other - NCP (http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/sports/hood-titans-happy-find-each-other)

And though the Titans have the same number of wins as the Browns, Hood is happy to be away from the situation in Cleveland.

“It had nothing to do with my play at Cleveland. It was one of those things where I really wanted to get out of there, because I didn’t like how things were going, how things were being run there,” Hood said. “I’m just a big guy on character and how things are supposed to be played out, and it wasn’t a good situation for me. It was to a point where football wasn’t even fun for me. It was terrible to me.”

Hood didn’t want to elaborate on specifics, but simply said it was something he’d never experienced before in his seven-year NFL career.

[TitanHope]

Really good article about Jeff Fisher out of Buffalo:

Sullivan: Fisher's run is definition of continuity - Buffalo News (http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/862117.html)

[terribletowel39]

http://thomabraham.net/home1.html

Lendale and Bulluck sign a Terrible Towel.

If we win Sunday, you can officially count me in as a believer of the TT Curse.
So, how about it?? Stomped on the Terrible Towel and lost 8 in a row including last year and the playoffs.

Lendale and Bulluck sign one basically nullifying it as well as Jeff Fisher saying he has one in his house and the Titans have hung one up in the locker room and the Titans have won 3 in a row.

What is everybodys take on this??

[CashmoneyDrew]

I'm not a believer. Just a coincidence that people like David Climer like to run with.

[MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)]

I think there's definitely some truth in the TT curse.

I also believe that my home-made doll with a lock of Philip Rivers' hair is gonna be the key to Denver winning on Sunday.

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Just wanted to let you know that the Terrible Towel curse has moved on to another team:

The Bengals. Again. They finally have a good year and then their fans ruin it for them. They'll never learn.

http://www.961kiss.com/pages/morningfreakshow.html?an=Bengals-Fans-Burn-The-Terrible-Towel

[DoughBoy]

http://blogs.tennessean.com/titans/2009/11/18/peta-gives-bud-adams-a-different-bird/

How does Bud Adams flipping the bird have anything to do with, McDonalds, Chickens and PETA?