Dallas Cowboys Discussion

[Burns336]

I could see choice becoming one of the better special teamers.

He is the type of guy who embraces any opportunity he gets and he is always pumped when he makes a tackle.

Beyond that, I hope he never sees the field, not because I don't like him but because Barber and Felix should preform at a high enough level to keep him off.

[Im_a_Romosexual]

Beyond that, I hope he never sees the field, not because I don't like him but because Barber and Felix should preform at a high enough level to keep him off.


I do. Garbage time ;)

running put the clock

[pocketaces]

Pacman in trouble?? http://cbs11tv.com/cowboys/Pacman.Jones.Adam.2.835951.html

[M.O.T.H.]

Oh lord...come on Adam, you've actually been growing on me. Fighting w/ you own security, if you can't trust them, who can you trust?

[shane_man]

I could see choice becoming one of the better special teamers.

He is the type of guy who embraces any opportunity he gets and he is always pumped when he makes a tackle.

Beyond that, I hope he never sees the field, not because I don't like him but because Barber and Felix should preform at a high enough level to keep him off.

My wanting Choice to start a game has nothing to do with the ability of Barber or Felix. It's more a gameplan issue. Barber is at his best beating on tired defenders. Felix could probably start a game and break a big gain but it wouldn't hurt to keep him out there for later in the first quarter and early second. Choice taking the first offensive drive(and it going to plan) means he's probably going to run the ball 5-8 times... He's going to tire the defence out early which allows Felix and Barber to be more effective then they are.

That's assuming there is roughly 35 odd carries to be split between the three backs in any one game.

[Im_a_Romosexual]

Sports hernia for T-New. He might need surgery.

ESPN bottom line

[shane_man]

Sports hernia for T-New. He might need surgery.

ESPN bottom line
Considering all the stuff they were spouting about easing him back in and how this year with this group at Corner meant we didn't need to rush him back. He sure got injured again real fast didn't he?

Is that out for the season or can he be back in time for the playoffs(and healthy?)

[Burns336]

6 weeks. could be as little as 4.5-5 and as many as 8.

[shane_man]

6 weeks. could be as little as 4.5-5 and as many as 8.

I wouldn't bring him back before Week 15 if that timetable is correct. But damn sure he would get a workout in those last three games.

[Modano]

We know that everything regarding Dallas and Pacman usually gets overblown. So I'm holding my judgment on Pacman.
Just a couple of days ago the media said that TO was ready to explode, crying frustrated on the sidelines because he wasn't involved in the game and instead he was crying because he lost a friend.

[DiG]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Got-a-spare-half-a-million-dollars-Buy-the-Cowb?urn=nfl,113544

anyone interested in buying the cowboys endzone?

[MetSox17]

Sports hernia for T-New. He might need surgery.

ESPN bottom line

I don't want another Terry Glenn episode. Just get the surgery and come back for the end of the season/playoffs.

[leroyisgod]

Well the Tnew and Adam Jones news isn't good news at this point. Scandrik & Jenkins better get warmed up for potentially more pt.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

thats what i was thinking

[Modano]

Well, it seems that Pacman story was blown waaaaay out of proportion.
Good job by the DMN to already proclame that his days as a cowboys were over. Am I the only one who thinks the DMN blog has become garbage recently?

[thule]

DMN has been garbage since Breer left. Archer is about the only guy I can tolerate...hell I'm beginning to read JJT again and that is pathetic.

[leroyisgod]

Does anyone have the "REAL" story then? All I've seen is that he was drinking at a party and he and his bodyguard got into a fight and broke a mirror in the restroom of a hotel.

[thule]

I heard they were messing around and it escalated....the body guard didn't press charges...so I doubt anything happens to pack.

[M.O.T.H.]

DMN has been garbage since Breer left. Archer is about the only guy I can tolerate...hell I'm beginning to read JJT again and that is pathetic.

DMN is garbage. I'll still check it out just about every day but, they're all morons for the most part.

[Burns336]

They didn't even break a mirror. They broke a light switch covering that was made out of a mirror.

[Paul]

They didn't even break a mirror. They broke a light switch covering that was made out of a mirror.

LOL. Straight Gangsta.

[thule]

They probably took it off with a screw driver and broke it to make each other grills.

[Modano]

DMN is garbage. I'll still check it out just about every day but, they're all morons for the most part.

Right now they're still talking about how much we're screwed because Pacman is gonna be suspended.

[shane_man]

It would have been a tough game to play this week had Pacman not been able to play along with Newman's injury. Two teams I think we need every single one of our Corners for are the Giants and the Cardinals.

[Modano]

It would have been a tough game to play this week had Pacman not been able to play along with Newman's injury. Two teams I think we need every single one of our Corners for are the Giants and the Cardinals.

Boldin is out so I think we can afford Newman absence.

[shane_man]

Boldin is out so I think we can afford Newman absence.
To be honest I'm more worried about Warner picking us apart rather then Boldin and Fitzgerald both needing two guys on them each.

[JJJ888]

I had to come by just to vent some frustration about the Pacman "incident." I too am extremely upset by the DMN coverage of the whole situation--Calvin Watkins has been about as bad as JJT was at his worst (in my opinion the TO didn't know the playbook story). Tim McMahon, who I've liked more and more this year, has also contributed his fair share of poor reporting. At least Tim Cowlishaw's blog entry today was fair...

The thing to me is that Pacman was neither charged with a crime or even arrested. For Chris Henry, who was charged, only to get a 4-game suspension after spending significant time in the NFL sin bin, while Pacman is escorted out the door for the rest of the season is absolutely ludicrous. If that happens, some of these "investigative" and opportunistic journalists will turn around and go the other way on this issue, and point out the injustice of Pacman's suspension. In my mind, if Pac gets anything more than Henry's 4 games, then the league loses a lot of credibility.

[Burns336]

Lets hope its a 1 game and its for next weekend against St. Louis.

I wouldn't mind at all.

[Modano]

Newman underwent surgery. The good is news is that he will be out a month and not 6-8 weeks. He could be back for the rematch against Washington.

[Gribble]

Lets hope its a 1 game and its for next weekend against St. Louis.

I wouldn't mind at all.

Lol... They're the Rams dude...

[leroyisgod]

When is Roy due back?

[LonghornsLegend]

Newman underwent surgery. The good is news is that he will be out a month and not 6-8 weeks. He could be back for the rematch against Washington.

With his habit of coming back too soon, then getting hurt again, I'd almost venture to say just let him play all of week 17 to get back into the groove of things and rest over the bye again...I hope we don't have to deal with his nagging injuries all season, another reason why I wanted to see him play this year before getting signed.

[leroyisgod]

With his habit of coming back too soon, then getting hurt again, I'd almost venture to say just let him play all of week 17 to get back into the groove of things and rest over the bye again...I hope we don't have to deal with his nagging injuries all season, another reason why I wanted to see him play this year before getting signed.

As we've seen with Newman, it takes him more than one week to get back into the groove. It's more like 2-3 weeks.

[Modano]

Demarcus Ware reads this blog :D

"If you put those players in position to make plays, I think we can do better," DeMarcus Ware said this week after raving about the defense's talent. "It's not happening on a regular basis. We've got so many good players on defense. The thing is, you let those players play and just see how it works out."

[johnstonolb]

I had to wait a little before posting but here it is.

This team is a mess right now.

The Head Coach is an absolute idiot. Undisciplined and a loser.

Tony Romo can not keep making mistakes and creating excuses -- let Tony be Tony is failing.

Bradie James, a "leader," is anything but. D melted after giving up that 17 yard conversion. He missed a few key plays in those meltdowns.

The GM/Owner/Waterboy is to blame for enabling/coddling many players to create excuses for being "talented" losers.

It is what it is. Talent only takes you so far.

[M.O.T.H.]

I had to wait a little before posting but here it is.

This team is a mess right now.

The Head Coach is an absolute idiot. Undisciplined and a loser.

Tony Romo can not keep making mistakes and creating excuses -- let Tony be Tony is failing.

Bradie James, a "leader," is anything but. D melted after giving up that 17 yard conversion. He missed a few key plays in those meltdowns.

The GM/Owner/Waterboy is to blame for enabling/coddling many players to create excuses for being "talented" losers.

It is what it is. Talent only takes you so far.

What game were you watching? Tony isnt playing anything like Tony. He's depressed and gun shy. There is a thread on it...go check it out, whenever you get a chance.

[johnstonolb]

What game were watching? Tony isnt playing anything like Tony. He's depressed and gun shy. There is a thread on it...go check it out, whenever you get a chance.

What game am I watching?????

You need to take those rose colored sun glasses off. The guy single handedly almost had 6 turnovers today.

We got the ball three times in opponent territory -- zero points.

He needs to start with the following --- pass the ball to Austin and Crayton more often. He then needs to focus on getting the ball out in less than 3 seconds. He is holding that thing back there wayyyyyy too long looking for monster plays.

Give me a break MOTH. He is playing horribly.

[M.O.T.H.]

What game am I watching?????

You need to take those rose colored sun glasses off. The guy single handedly almost had 6 turnovers today.

We got the ball three times in opponent territory -- zero points.

He needs to start with the following --- pass the ball to Austin and Crayton more often. He then needs to focus on getting the ball out in less than 3 seconds. He is holding that thing back there wayyyyyy too long looking for monster plays.

Give me a break MOTH. He is playing horribly.

Dude, go read the other thread. geez. I know he is playing bad...hence why i said, he's not playing like Tony Romo. It's in the NFL section.

[M.O.T.H.]

If you cant tell that something is emotionally/mentaly wrong w/ Tony than I'd greatly question how much you really follow the team. Hell, it's as plain as day, anyone could see it.

[johnstonolb]

Dude, go read the other thread. geez. I know he is playing bad...hence why i said, he's not playing like Tony Romo. It's in the NFL section.

Sure will but this does not change what I see -- He is taking too long in the pocket, not moving around like he did well, staring way too long at Witten or TO, not throwing Austin or Crayton the ball (Austin was open all day) and the OC is doing a bad job of getting him on track.

Let Tony be Tony is a failure -- that is leave him alone -- is wrong. He needs some serious hands on coaching right now.

Wish David Lee was here.

[johnstonolb]

If you cant tell that something is emotionally/mentaly wrong w/ Tony than I'd greatly question how much you really follow the team. Hell, it's as plain as day, anyone could see it.

I have watched every minute of every game for as long as I can remember. I also read all 3 prominent blogs. We can agree to disagree if you wish.

[M.O.T.H.]

Sure will but this does not change what I see -- He is taking too long in the pocket, not moving around like he did well, staring way too long at Witten or TO, not throwing Austin or Crayton the ball (Austin was open all day) and the OC is doing a bad job of getting him on track.

Let Tony be Tony is a failure -- that is leave him alone -- is wrong. He needs some serious hands on coaching right now.

Wish David Lee was here.

Tony's play is in direct correlation of how he has been carrying himself lately. Guy just looks and acts depressed. We have a bit of a problem.

[M.O.T.H.]

I have watched every minute of every game for as long as I can remember. I also read all 3 prominent blogs. We can agree to disagree if you wish.

That wasnt taking a shot at you...I'm just saying. The guy you are watching out there isnt playing like Tony Romo. That's why saying something like let Tony be Tony doesnt really make any sense. The guy is currently trying to be something he's not and he is struggling mightly. What he does need to do...is be himself. That is the solution not the problem. Those turnovers will come but, you know he'll back it up w/ some outstanding play. Because, what he is going through now is really hurt the team and he is not having any fun out there. What makes him great is that gunslinger, backyard football mentality. Improvision is a key part to what makes him a fantastic player but, again he's trying to be the next Tom Brady and limit interceptions...In turn he's holding onto the ball too long and taking hits and fumbling. He's not in a great place right now.

Something I found interesting...first question asked to Tony after the game..."Did you have fun out there?" He didnt smile at all during the game, he wasnt even emotional after Folk tied it up. There is something wrong.

[johnstonolb]

Tony's play is in direct correlation of how he has been carrying himself lately. Guy just looks and acts depressed. We have a bit of a problem.

This is circular reasoning and pure nonsense from a football perspective.

We all felt horrible at times for whatever reason and to associate failure to your mental state is what LOSERS do. I would like to think Tony is not a loser.

I would like to think he needs his coaches to start coaching him again -- like Lee and Parcells did. He is not a pure pocket passer and is becoming a turnover machine.

He needs to go back to being more mobile. He needs to go back to throwing shorter timing routes. He needs to start using Crayton and Austin. He needs to start throwing the ball away after 3 seconds or run like hell.

Success breads confidence. His coaches needs to help him get there by coaching him firmly and better play calling. I am telling you Crayton and Austin where open all day. He looked at them like twice. Same last week and previous. His obsession (and Garrett) with TO and Witten is hurting him -- he is waiting too long for them and is fixated on them.

Anyway, no worries. I am sure Wade will rise to the occassion --- once he figures out that Special Teams may cost him his job AGAIN.

[johnstonolb]

That wasnt taking a shot at you...I'm just saying. The guy you are watching out there isnt playing like Tony Romo. That's why saying something like let Tony be Tony doesnt really make any sense. The guy is currently trying to be something he's not and he is struggling mightly. What he does need to do...is be himself. That is the solution not the problem. Those turnovers will come but, you know he'll back it up w/ some outstanding play. Because, what he is going through now is really hurt the team and he is not having any fun out there. What makes him great is that gunslinger, backyard football mentality. Improvision is a key part to what makes him a fantastic player but, again he's trying to be the next Tom Brady and limit interceptions...In turn he's holding onto the ball too long and taking hits and fumbling. He's not in a great place right now.

Something I found interesting...first question asked to Tony after the game..."Did you have fun out there?" He didnt smile at all during the game, he wasnt even emotional after Folk tied it up. There is something wrong.

I am not sure what you think Tony being Tony means .... but Tony being Tony is what David Lee and Parcells tried to beat out of him -- the propensity for turnovers and sloppy ball management.

Tony was/is/will be his best rolling and moving around and occasionally running but doing htis with a clock in his head. Again, 3 seconds, nothing, run or roll somewhere to buy time. This whole sit in the pocket patting the ball ...... ughhhhh. If you notice most of his turnovers are when he keeps holding the ball praying for TO or Witten to get open 30 yards downfield ........

Well, whatever it is better get fixed fast. NFC is pretty damn good.

[M.O.T.H.]

You greatly under value the mental side of the game. If a player loses his love for the game or confidence, which may be the case...it is not as easy as coaching him up or telling him to spread it around more. It is a very difficult thing to over come. This isnt a quick fix. You compare that guy from past years to now...completely different person. Hell, Tony used to sing before games and you couldn't wipe that smile off his face almost ever. Now, he barely shows emotion. He's also playing scared, he doesnt want to throw picks. He was very hesident to throw the ball past 10 yards and he checked down to Barber a good 11 times. This is a mental thing...not mechanics, not technique, not even game planning this time. It seems as though, he is struggling to find his identity as a QB and on the way, he looks like a depressed mess.

[johnstonolb]

You greatly under value the mental side of the game. If a player loses his love for the game or confidence, which may be the case...it is not as easy as coaching him up or telling him to spread it around more. It is a very difficult thing to over come. This isnt a quick fix. You compare that guy from past years to now...completely different person. Hell, Tony used to sing before games and you could wipe that smile off his face almost ever. Now, he barely shows emotion. He's also playing scared, he doesnt want to throw picks. He was very hesident to throw the ball past 10 yards and he checked down to Barber a good 11 times. This is a mental thing...not mechanics, not technique, not even game planning this time.

OK, you are describing someone who needs Meds now. If our starting QB needs MEDS to deal with the pressure of wealth, poontang and high expectations -- well he ain't a Dallas Cowboy QB.

Again, I want to think we have a coaching problem now, not a QB problem. The coaches need to WORK HIM to do things FASTER in the pocket. This was the first critique that Belichick and Fat Man had of Tom Brady -- he needs to get what he is going to do -- done faster.

Tony needs to speed up the game in his mind. He is to slow in the pocket and it is bring out the worst in him -- the gunslinger. He is waiting on TO to somehow get open v press and double coverage. Well, sure he will .... in about 5 seconds. He is waiting for Witten .... same story. By then pass rush will get there.

You got single coverage on Austin .. bam. Single Crayton bam. WTF are you sitting the pocket waiting for TO or Witten when they got 2-3 Defenders around them most every play. If he ain't happy, GM/Owner/HC/ and OC need to get on the same page and realise Tony Romo is how you get to the SB not TO or Witten or whoever. Frankly I am sick of hearing everyone in Valley Ranch talk about getting TO the ball. Reminds me of New Orleans when they over focused on Reggie Bush.

GM/Owner/HC/ and OC should say the following: "Tony ball goes to guy with single coverage. If TO is doubled all game -- F him. If Witten is -- F him. Crayton, Austin, MBIII, Felix in the passing game make plays too. They are single -- get them the ball fast."

That is how you get your mojo back as a QB ...... making good throws to the right player ...... look at Eli once they got rid of that idiot Shockey and his hyperventilating ego maniac BS ..................... kid has been All Pro since then.

[M.O.T.H.]

I dont know how you fail to notice his demeanor on the field. He's playing scared and depressed. That is not on the coaches. Tony is in a funk right now and again, it looks to be all mental.

[Paul]

Two D's. Demeanor and Discipline.

The team as a whole doesn't seem like they're having fun out there. Win or lose. Romo obviously hasn't been the same, TO is pouting every time the camera is on him, the defense is coming off the field with slumped shoulders, I mean we just don't seem like a very confident team.

Penalties.... Man. Were just racking them up this year aren't we?

[M.O.T.H.]

We really need to do some hitting during next year's camp because, our tackling is taking forever to get up to form. You even had Thomas bouncing off guys and Scandrick ugh...dont get me started on his tackling today.

[johnstonolb]

We need a real HC and an Owner/GM who steps away from the battlefield and lets his generals fight the war.

[LonghornsLegend]

We need a real HC and an Owner/GM who steps away from the battlefield and lets his generals fight the war.

I understand we have problems galore, but why is it with you every time we lose a few games we need to tear this organization down and strip it to the bone to right the ship? We go through this all the time, you always go to the extremes and start calling for everyone's head, funny how Jerry still manages to catch some of the blame no matter what happens.


Look at the Chargers, they got down early, and now they know they have to fight, they have more losses then us, got cheated out of one, have WAY more injuries, and had the same super bowl expecations too, but to hell with it FIRE AJ SMITH!!!!!! Norv won't every do anything with that team because they have no heart etc etc.



We won't be 13-3 this year, but we have a long time to go to right the ship...Definately, things need to be changed no doubt about it, but stop acting like the worlds coming to an end when we lose, Jerry is always the problem for you whenever we lose.

[M.O.T.H.]

I agree w/ you LL but, as a very frequent Chargers watcher...I think they should fire AJ Smith. Guy's an ass who is completely full of himself. :) He's great evaluator but again...dude's an ass. haha.

But seriously, like you said, it's a long season. There is still a really long way to go, we can right this ship. The Giants looked extremely disfunctional and downright awful at the beginning of the season last year. We still have time. Only real difference though, is a big one...and that is the Giants were expected to be bad, we're supposed to be the best in the league, destined for Super Bowl glory. Our team needs to forget about all that junk right now...take it a game at a time and go out there and have some fun. This team was better as an under dog or under the radar team, now that we're "supposed" to be this amazing team, they cant live up to all the hype and pressure. Seriously, they just need to forget about that and just take it week by week...just like last year's regular season.

[johnstonolb]

First of all Longhorns, the comparison between AJ Smith and Jones is not even close. AJ does not own the team and can not simply "do as he wishes." Second, I could not find one guy who thought the Norv hire was any good either. Third, AJ fired Marty -- not exactly a controversial move IMHO.

Let me be clear on what agistates me, your QB is your franchise. When your GM/HC/OC come out saying TO must get the ball and TO himself is barking for it ..... it says something to the QB.

Best example I have is Shockey with Eli. The minute Shockey left it was night and day. Eli could simply thow it to the guy who was open. His decisions where better, faster and less mistakes. He is playing incredible right now and he looked LOST at time last year.

What I see right now is a QB trying to fit throws into small windows to guys (TO and Witten) who have two guys looking at them. When he does not force it quickly, he is spending endless time in the pocket trying to get the ball to them thus forcing it slowly. This is at the heart of all these mistakes.

I have yet to see Romo go to the line, take a three step or five step drop and go right to Crayton or Austin or the check down. They are always his 3/4/5 second read after looking for TO, Witten. He waits forever for TO and Witten to try and get downfield, double or not.

Teams have figured this out. Double TO, bump Witten with a LB and keep a safety nearby. That is 4 (four) defenders locked in on them

How do you think Austin was wide open on that post route in the endzone which Romo missed him on (too much time looking for TO)?

How do you think Crayton can catch a ball and go 55 yards un touched with his lousy speed?

You can not run an offense through a WR and expect it to work very well and certainly not a QB like Romo. Romo is not Aikman or Carson Palmer. He can't make those types of throws on a consistent basis in tight windows to a #1.

Tony needs to spread it out and go to who is open ... but when your Owner/GM/HC and OC are busy stroking TO's johnson .... "we must get him the ball." BS. I'd be depressed to if as a point guard I am told the ball always need to first go to player A regardless of what the game dictates.

Crayton and Austin where wide open most of the game with single coverage. Crayton, however, is not #2. He is an excellent #3 -- but I digress. Get them involved and uninvolve TO --- within two weeks you will see the difference. TO will be open more. Witten will be open more. Etc....

World is not ending but once again this team is getting sloppier and playing with even less heart than one would hope. The team personalities are not making it any better. It starts at the top.

[M.O.T.H.]

article on Romo...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/cowboys/stories/101308dnsposherrington.3c33e7a.html

[johnstonolb]

I agree w/ you LL but, as a very frequent Chargers watcher...I think they should fire AJ Smith. Guy's an ass who is completely full of himself. :) He's great evaluator but again...dude's an ass. haha.

But seriously, like you said, it's a long season. There is still a really long way to go, we can right this ship. The Giants looked extremely disfunctional and downright awful at the beginning of the season last year. We still have time. Only real difference though, is a big one...and that is the Giants were expected to be bad, we're supposed to be the best in the league, destined for Super Bowl glory. Our team needs to forget about all that junk right now...take it a game at a time and go out there and have some fun. This team was better as an under dog or under the radar team, now that we're "supposed" to be this amazing team, they cant live up to all the hype and pressure. Seriously, they just need to forget about that and just take it week by week...just like last year's regular season.

Eli, a nice guy, got so much better the minute Shockey broke his leg. This season he looks amazing. Shockey is our TO. Egg shells all the time unless he gets 10 catches and 5 TDs.

Jones needs to come right out and say "Tony is our QB and no one player's performance is more important than his. Tony is the franchise. I would hope Tony gets the ball to whoever is open and best able to make plays. I could care less if the player's name is Tashard Choice or Dean Anderson. The Offense revolves around our Pro Bowl QB, not our Pro Bowl Receivers or RBs."

Done.

[M.O.T.H.]

If you dont remember...Eli had an awful season. It's not until the playoffs, did he string together a few good games and by then, the playcalling had been changed to take some of the load off of Eli. No longer was he being called upon to pass the ball 40+ times to win ball games. They established the run and things opened up for him. Their playcalling was a big reason why they were so bad not the player personel.

[johnstonolb]

article on Romo...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/cowboys/stories/101308dnsposherrington.3c33e7a.html

Interesting article but football nonsense IMHO.

I read that paper daily. Some good in it thogh.

[johnstonolb]

If you dont remember...Eli had an awful season. It's not until the playoffs, did he string together a few good games and by then, the playcalling had been changed to take some of the load off of Eli. No longer was he being called upon to pass the ball 40+ times to win ball games. They established the run and things opened up for him. Their playcalling was a big reason why they were so bad not the player personel.

The day Shockey went down Eli got better and so did the team. That team walked on egg shells with Shockey. His demeanor on the field every time Eli "missed him" was horrid. Worse yet he dropped lots of balls and still pouted as he would run off to AC to gamble.

Go ask a GMan fan. I think it a perfect comparison to what I perceive is going on here right now.

Everyone is telling Romo, TOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTO........ Witten .... TOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTO .... Check Down .... TOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOTOOTOTTOOOOOO and he is saying I guess you are right I need to get double covered TO the ball so let me sit back their for 5 seconds and wait while 225Lbers run all the way around Flo to get a fumble or wait 6 seconds till a DT get through to put up a floating dead duck.

Wrong Tony. 3 step bam. 5 step bam. Double here, go there. Not one fan cares if TO catches a pass if we win and play well. Not 1.

And fact is, that team relies a great deal on Eli now. Watch tomorrow's game and hopefully you will see what I have last few weeks. He is really playing well right now and I thought he was going to suck real bad. He is nothing but excellent right now. Dude is spreading the ball around nicely. Teams have no idea who is getting the ball.

[djp]

Dunno if you guys saw this or not, but Matt Mosely posted a blurb in his ESPN.com blog saying he went over to the trainer's room and was told McBriar hadn't broken any bones.

Dunno about the Achilles stuff, but there is a tiny bit of good news there.

[M.O.T.H.]

Dunno if you guys saw this or not, but Matt Mosely posted a blurb in his ESPN.com blog saying he went over to the trainer's room and was told McBriar hadn't broken any bones.

Dunno about the Achilles stuff, but there is a tiny bit of good news there.

Yeah, heard it was just a sprain or something along those lines. I dont know where that torn achilles info came from...that would be devastating.

[Modano]

This team needs to stop talking with the media and listening what they're saying. That's what a 13-3 season does for you: everyone expects you to win every game.
It all started with the "Romo to Mexico" stuff. They're always looking for the big story, they don't care about the game. In the past couple of years we've read a lot of made-up stories like TO not knowing the playbook, TO attempting suicide, Romo playing poorly because of Jessica Simpson, Pacman being in troubles again (the DMN was terrible, they were calling for Pacman head before even knowing what really happened).
Combine that with a fanbase that after every loss goes nuts and calls for everyone's head (go watch the comments on DMN blog) and so expects this team to dominate every single game...
We need to find our identity back, because we lost it. This team is having trouble handling pressure off the field. They should let what the media say go and have fun again.

[Modano]

Romo out 4 weeks! Damnit!

[thule]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3640890

Broken pinky finger on his throwing hand

[M.O.T.H.]

Um yeah, we're screwed. Completely changes the dynamic of the team. Time to pound the rock...a lot. I'm really so pissed off right now.

[Bengals78]

We (the Bengals) would be glad to throw you Ryan Fitzpatrick lol.
But in all seriousness, would everyone rule out a possible trade for a younger backup or is Brad Johnson in for 4 weeks?

[M.O.T.H.]

We (the Bengals) would be glad to throw you Ryan Fitzpatrick lol.
But in all seriousness, would everyone rule out a possible trade for a younger backup or is Brad Johnson in for 4 weeks?

No trades...if Brad stumbles, we signed Brooks Bollinger. Who actually may be the better option than Brad.

and no thanks on Ryan Fitz. haha. I know him well, I got see him beat my local fav college team twice...but yeah, he's terrible.

[SuperKevin]

Man this was a rough week for Dallas. You lost arguably two of your most important players in Tony Romo and Mat McBriar. Luckily Brad Johnson has extensive starting experience and is smart enough to minimize mistakes. I wonder who will be signed to cover the punting duties

[M.O.T.H.]

Sam Hurd may have played his last game as a Cowboy. He re-injured that high ankle sprain on the opening kick off and will need season-ending surgery. Miraculously, he played the whole game and even threw that big block to spring Marion on that long TD. Sam is a FA at the end of the year...he certainly is the type of player that you would love to keep around but, this might be it. Very sad day for me...my two favorite players go down in the same game.

[Im_a_Romosexual]

I'd prefer Brooks since he is a similar type of player that Romo is, but I'm not sure how much he knows the playbook.

Damn about Hurd, but I think we should bring him back since he's a quality special teams player and has shown he can produce when given the opportunity

[LonghornsLegend]

Thought it was ironic that as bad as our ST has been, we were the first group to ever end the game on a ST's play, and as if it wasn't bad enough now McBriar 's foot was black and blue...Things are just a mess right now, now we get to see the mental toughness of this team.


Also anyone notice Zach Thomas bouncing off tacklers lately? I mean lets call him on it too because Roy would get blasted for barreling into guys without wrapping up, I appreciate the effort and sheding of blocks but you need your MLB to wrap up on those tackles.


Gonna be a rough month :( *sigh*

[M.O.T.H.]

Man this was a rough week for Dallas. You lost arguably two of your most important players in Tony Romo and Mat McBriar. Luckily Brad Johnson has extensive starting experience and is smart enough to minimize mistakes. I wonder who will be signed to cover the punting duties

We also lost arguablly our best special teamer, next to Keith Davis, Sam Hurd. He also provided depth at the WR position and should have been playing in the offense, since no one else could get open and he's easily the best blocking receiver on the team and probably has the best hands. Awful news.

Felix is also banged up, he'll probably play Sunday but, he may be limited. Murphy's law is in full effect.

[LonghornsLegend]

Sam Hurd may have played his last game as a Cowboy. He re-injured that high ankle sprain on the opening kick off and will need season-ending surgery. Miraculously, he played the whole game and even threw that big block to spring Marion on that long TD. Sam is a FA at the end of the year...he certainly is the type of player that you would love to keep around but, this might be it. Very sad day for me...my two favorite players go down in the same game.

WTF man?!?! This just sucks, I knew we were due for some big injuries but this is just ridiculous...It would just suck to not see Sammy back with us after how hard he's worked for that opportunity, he gives 110% every play he's out there and was developing into a future #2...******* *****

[M.O.T.H.]

If we dont re-sign him, I wouldnt be shocked to see him wearing a Dolphins uni. One of BP's favorites. I just want him back. ugh.

[Bengals78]

and no thanks on Ryan Fitz. haha. I know him well, I got see him beat my local fav college team twice...but yeah, he's terrible.

You sure? you can have him for two season tickets and a coke.
I would hope to see Barber take control of the offense for now, run the ball run the ball, throw.
Whats the deal with Felix Jones? Is he gonna play?

[johnstonolb]

Feel bad for Romo but this maybe a silver lining for the team and Offense IF it brings them together and IF Brad Johnson goes out and throws to who is open.

With respect to Sam Hurd, I know folks love him but the real FA you need to watch out for leaving is Austin. Sam Hurd and Partick Crayton are wonderful slot guys who will always have a place in the NFL.

How about that Tony Curtis? Think Fasano would have missed the block???

Anyone else pissed the D went out in the second half and gave up 17 straight points when they could have put the game away 14-7???

[Im_a_Romosexual]

Anyone else pissed the D went out in the second half and gave up 17 straight points when they could have put the game away 14-7???

Once they converted the 3rd and 17 was when I knew we were in trouble

[M.O.T.H.]

I know it doesnt mean anything now but, after only a few plays into the 1st quarter...I didnt think there was any chance we were going to win that game. Of course you have the kick return TD which is going to, in turn kill you in terms of momentum and crowd involvement. Then you have Marion who was getting stuffed on every play and once again a depressed looking Romo. It just didnt have the feel of a game we were going to win. Funny thing is, it's actually fairly easy to tell what type of team we're going to have for the game only a few plays in. It's kind of sad really.

[johnstonolb]

Once they converted the 3rd and 17 was when I knew we were in trouble

Funny enuff, I knew it too. So sad this team is so weak, is so pu**y that when 1 bad thing happens they fold like lawn chairs.

[johnstonolb]

I know it doesnt mean anything now but, after only a few plays into the 1st quarter...I didnt think there was any chance we were going to win that game. Of course you have the kick return TD which is going to, in turn kill you in terms of momentum and crowd involvement. Then you have Marion who was getting stuffed on every play and once again a depressed looking Romo. It just didnt have the feel of a game we were going to win. Funny thing is, it's actually fairly easy to tell what type of team we're going to have for the game only a few plays in. It's kind of sad really.

Really, this is a man's game. I reall could care less if Romo has a smile or not. Take a Prozac and grow some ba**z.

Success breeds confidence. Good work habits breed success.

[BackwoodsBoy]

Are you guys going to have enough money to keep Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, Chris Canty and all the 437 draft picks you have this year?

[M.O.T.H.]

You may want to take some pyschology classes or read some books on the subject. The human brain is a complicated thing...the mental side of the game is more important than the physical side. You're not dealing w/ robots but, people. They all have feelings and emotions, egos. It's not as easy as telling some guys to do this or that. If he really is depressed or has lost his love to play the game that he used to love...then it's not about simple X's and O's, coaching, or scheming. It would be a much more complex problem.

[M.O.T.H.]

Are you guys going to have enough money to keep Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, Chris Canty and all the 437 draft picks you have this year?

yeah...the money will be there. Hurd/Austin wont cost anything to keep. Canty is doable and as for draft picks, we wont keep all of them...we're in a place to move around in the draft.

[Modano]

You may want to take some pyschology classes or read some books on the subject. The human brain is a complicated thing...the mental side of the game is more important than the physical side. You're not dealing w/ robots but, people. They all have feelings and emotions, egos. It's not as easy as telling some guys to do this or that. If he really is depressed or has lost his love to play the game that he used to love...then it's not about simple X's and O's, coaching, or scheming. It would be a much more complex problem.

I definately agree. Human mind is very complicated. You could be in the best physical shape of your life but if your mind is messed up you are not gonna perform well.

[Bengals78]

I definately agree. Human mind is very complicated. You could be in the best physical shape of your life but if your mind is messed up you are not gonna perform well.

See:
Young, Vince
Leaf, Ryan

[Modano]

See:
Young, Vince
Leaf, Ryan

Yes, but it's something we experience everyday. When you're worried about something you can't live your life they way you'd like.
Right now Romo needs an heavy dose of Bobby McFerrin.

[johnstonolb]

I definately agree. Human mind is very complicated. You could be in the best physical shape of your life but if your mind is messed up you are not gonna perform well.

I guess we will be giving out pads and tampons before the next game.

BTW, this is the reason Parcells treats players harshly -- it separates the sh*t from the gold. It makes men -- no women like a few we have on this team who cry like girls after their cherry gets popped. One minute screaming like a hysterical women and the next crying or depressed.

If this little "adversity" causes this much hand wringing, you need to go get a job in the Post Office -- ooopppps people claim that is "stressful too." Try unemployed and living on raman noodles. Life is tough -- get used to it girls. Doesn't mean you stop trying with every ounce of effort.

We are cooked if the fannies and media are "validating" the "he is not having fun" silliness.

Mya dvice to Jerry, Forget Calvin Hill - resurrect Sigmund Freud.

[M.O.T.H.]

Nothing official but, Mickey Spags says Felix Jones is most likely out for atleast 2 weeks.

[Modano]

I guess we will be giving out pads and tampons before the next game.

BTW, this is the reason Parcells treats players harshly -- it separates the sh*t from the gold. It makes men -- no women like a few we have on this team who cry like girls after their cherry gets popped. One minute screaming like a hysterical women and the next crying or depressed.


Tony Dungy does the opposite and the Colts have been pretty successfull under him, haven't they?

[Modano]

Nothing official but, Mickey Spags says Felix Jones is most likely out for atleast 2 weeks.

And McBriar is out 6-8 weeks with a broken foot.

[M.O.T.H.]

And McBriar is out 6-8 weeks with a broken foot.

Yup, i just heard. I dont think there is any way he'll return from that this year. 6-8 is pretty wishful thinking.

[SuperKevin]

And McBriar is out 6-8 weeks with a broken foot.

In my opinion thats a bigger loss than Tony Romo right now. At least Brad Johnsonis a smart experienced player who can minimize mistakes and be effective in the short term(see Kerry Collins). McBriar is one of the best punters in the NFC in my opinion and the change in field position will come back to hurt them.

[M.O.T.H.]

Felix Jones has a partially torn hamstring...out 2-4 weeks.

[SuperKevin]

Felix Jones has a partially torn hamstring...out 2-4 weeks.

When it rains it pours.

[johnstonolb]

Tony Dungy does the opposite and the Colts have been pretty successfull under him, haven't they?

How many nice guy coaches got rings? How many got more than 1?

Enuff said.

[johnstonolb]

Felix Jones has a partially torn hamstring...out 2-4 weeks.

that sucks a big one

[SuperKevin]

Ed Werder reports that McBriar is now done for the season. That hurts big time. Who's available right now?

[cowboyz]

How many nice guy coaches got rings? How many got more than 1?

Enuff said.

dick vermeil?

[thule]

McBriar is huge for us...but teams always seem to be able to pick up a punt who averages atleast 40...we will get to prove how high powered out offense really is.

I wanna get in on this debate...but then again I'm not thinking straight so i'll join in a day or two.

[M.O.T.H.]

Ed Werder reports that McBriar is now done for the season. That hurts big time. Who's available right now?

Most likely, Jay Ottovegio. He was our extra leg in TC and preseason.

[DMWSackMachine]

No, Vermeil did not win more than one, either.

You don't necessarily have to be a rah-rah guy, but you sure as hell can't be perceived as being soft or undisciplined. As far as I know, only a few guys in any sport have ever won without having a reputation for discipline and toughness.

Wade just isn't that guy.

[Modano]

No, Vermeil did not win more than one, either.

You don't necessarily have to be a rah-rah guy, but you sure as hell can't be perceived as being soft or undisciplined. As far as I know, only a few guys in any sport have ever won without having a reputation for discipline and toughness.

Wade just isn't that guy.

I can find a lot of "soft" coaches that are good ones. We can't also judge a good coach only for the number of his rings because winning the SB is a matter not only of coaching but talent, lucky, episodes etc.
If it weren't for David Tyree miracolous catch Coughlin wouldn't have won the SB. If it weren't for the tuck rule Bellichick wouldn't have won 3 rings. Etc... On the other hand Dungy won 1 ring but he should have won 2 if it weren't for Vanderjagt and a miracolous tackle by Roethlisberger, and Dungy sure is as laid-back as Wade. Lovie Smith took a team with no offense (and it wasn't his fault that Grossman was his QB) to the SB.
Personally I hate the rah-rah approach. I'm a coach myself and I think that a good coach isn't the one who screams at his players but the one who can understands them who knows how to talk to them.
But I do believe is a matter of opinion. Anyway...

The Giants got destroyed by the Browns, so that makes our loss even worse. With all the injuries, this team has its back against the wall. Time for the defense to step up, time to try some of the Giants medicine: resiliency.
The next 4-5 weeks will define our season. If we can win 2 or 3 of these games I think we get our confidence back and go all the way to the SB.

[shane_man]

Does anyone know how many Aussie superboots were sent over during the offseason this year. We normally send one or two... And they have proven to be reasonably good kickers. Sav Rocca for the Eagles. Ben Graham was pretty good for the Jets before he was ditched this year.

[Im_a_Romosexual]

God ******* damnit!

Adam Jones is suspended for at least 4 games

[Paul]

God ******* damnit!

Adam Jones is suspended for at least 4 games

...This week keeps getting better and better.

[Gribble]

This is really getting ridiculous... It's almost a media conspiracy now.

Mosley:

I know this loss to the Browns will cause panic in some circles, but a team's going to have one or two howlers a season. Get it out of the way early. (Giants)

This team didn't suddenly get bad overnight. I think they'll bounce back against a surging Browns team. (Redskins)

Remember when we thought this was the best team in the league? Seems so long ago now. (Cowboys)

And these teams are what? Tied and a half game apart... Jesus

[Paul]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643295

ESPN is reporting that the Cowboys are actively vying for Detroit WR Roy Williams. Currently the Cowboys are offering a first round pick, yet the Lions are asking for more

[Notredameleo]

Just take the first lions...goodness..

[Im_a_Romosexual]

Two seconds for Roy Williams ESPN/Ed Werder

EDIT: Schefter says first/third/sixth

[johnstonolb]

Being sloppy and undisciplined not only leads to losses it leads to injuries.

I have followed the NFL and have never seen a week like this for a team.

1) Your star WR is crying on the sidelines
2) Your All Pro Bowl CB is hurt and playing like a scrub
3) Your troubled CB goes partying, gets drunk and into a fight.
4) Your QB is allegedly depressed.
5) Your OC/GM/HC are polishing the star WR apple in the media to boost his fragile ego
6) Opening KO -- TD!
7) You get three possessions in opponent territory and ZERO points
8) Your QB gets injured b/c the OL is playing sloppy.
9) Same QB is a turnover machine
10) Your Punter gets his foot broken b/c your S/T can't block.
11) You achieve another NFL first in "ways to lose" -- a Wade specialty it seems (e.g., first team to lose in first round, first team punt block in OT, music city miracle ...)
12) Your star CB gets suspended as a result of his fight.

All can be fixed, very early in the year but really, a little leadership is required here to get past this.

Do we really have leadership on this team?

Is there anyone with the mental fortitude and heart to will this back together?

[johnstonolb]

Two second for Roy Williams ESPN/Ed Werder

Like putting great tires on a 1985 Chevy Malibu at this point. Roy Williams is nice but not the answer if our OC/HC/GM and QB are held hostage by TO's ego. With that said, Roy Williams addition makes TO a little more disposable if he continues to spiral into Narcissus.

On paper, wow, but we were already explosive on paper yet could not execute properly. But, just like Pacman, you gotta say yes and roll the dice if the cost is ok.

Personally, I would have preferred a NT from somewhere instead and maybe someone to replace Bradie James. Get Ratliff to DE. Get Bradie to bench.

Well, if this doesn't prove Jones is the Steinbrenner of football ..... no trust in internal guys developing, always loves a big name, willing to wheel and deal without regard to money.

[leroyisgod]

We gave up a 1,3 and 6 for Roy Williams and their 7. I'm not sure I'm happy about this or not.

[johnstonolb]

OMG, Galloway II

[BaLLiN]

looks like there are going to be two Roy Williamses on the Cowboys. Middle names on their jerseys?

[Modano]

Being sloppy and undisciplined not only leads to losses it leads to injuries.

I have followed the NFL and have never seen a week like this for a team.

1) Your star WR is crying on the sidelines


Please don't be an ass. He was crying because he lost a friend.

[BaLLiN]

We gave up a 1,3 and 6 for Roy Williams and their 7. I'm not sure I'm happy about this or not.

Well for lack of a less intense word, you guys are trying to salvage your season by getting another guy who is a perennial probowler. The only problem i see with this is that Roy does sometimes open his mouth too much, and he usually want the ball and complains about it too, so i dunno how great TO and him are gunna be. I think TO might get annoyed cuz they are bringing in a guy who will take alot of catches from him...

[M.O.T.H.]

Oh geez...Jerry Jones is in full desperation mode now. This doesnt happen if we didnt get killed w/ injuries this week. I just dont know about this one. He'll have to win me over, guy has been awful and is another bad attitude guy. Hasnt been able to catch a cold this year, very injury prone...he'll fit right in.

[johnstonolb]

Please don't be an ass. He was crying because he lost a friend.

I must be improving -- only one point you disagree with. Thanks!

[johnstonolb]

The Cowboys are

a) A football team
b) A circus act
c) A lost Hollywood pilot taking off the movie North Dallas Forty
d) All of the Above

[Modano]

I need some of D-Unit positivity. Man, where are you? We need you now that the sky is falling :(

[M.O.T.H.]

I'll take a circus act now. A team of pro bowlers isnt necessarily a "team". We have a bunch of indivisuals out there.

If Roy plays well and keeps his mouth shut...sure, he can win me over. But honestly, this seriously just looks likes a desperation move on JJ's part. We just lost one headcase but, added another. yay?

[Staubach12]

-Garrett needs to get this offense under control ASAP. We need to know how to attack defenses.
-I think Romo will be fine once he returns.
-If Pacman gets a lifetime ban, big deal. If he doesn't, fantastic. If he does, we can always nab a guy in the 2nd.

Right now is a get this under control period. While Romo is out, we will stabilize this team. Brad Johnson can do that. Once Romo comes back, we explode. That's my opinion.

[M.O.T.H.]

Werder said T.O. was "ecstatic" by the news. Not really expecting to hear anything else this early...we'll see in do time. I'm not predicting any implosions, T.O. does look like he's growing up, sometimes. So, again we'll just have to wait and see but, initial reaction from me...I dont like the deal. Yes, we dont need those picks but, the Lions screwed us over there. For a bad attitude guy who was angry that Calvin became the #1 option, a guy that at times has worse hands than T.O., a guy who has had a history of being injured and taking plays off. Meh. W/E, I can only say so much but, we have one disfunctional team and JJ looks desperate.

Hopefully, it works out.

[M.O.T.H.]

-Garrett needs to get this offense under control ASAP. We need to know how to attack defenses.
-I think Romo will be fine once he returns.
-If Pacman gets a lifetime ban, big deal. If he doesn't, fantastic. If he does, we can always nab a guy in the 2nd.

Right now is a get this under control period. While Romo is out, we will stabilize this team. Brad Johnson can do that. Once Romo comes back, we explode. That's my opinion.

I dont know if I believe it but, some seem to think we just may flat out cut Pacman soon. JJ's consultants and higher ups have reportedly been calling for such a move for a while, according to Werder.

Jerry said he wouldnt do this, though. But as we learned today, anything can freaking happen.

[thule]

Well this is all on Pac now. Jerry took all of his structure away. Pac has got to be crazy mad...he is the only one who is going to get back in 4 weeks. This will be a huge judge of character of Pacman for me.

[M.O.T.H.]

Even though our team is a disastrous mess right now...I'll admit, I'm a little excited to see expanded roles for Scandrick and Jenkins. Hopefully, one can step up enough so, that maybe we can let Adam go.

Dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to push Adam out the door but, he is someone who cant be depended on. You shouldnt have to constantly worry what a player is doing off of the field like this.

[scoopdawg]

A 1st 3rd and 6th is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy tooooooo much for Roy Williams!

[LonghornsLegend]

Even though our team is a disastrous mess right now...I'll admit, I'm a little excited to see expanded roles for Scandrick and Jenkins. Hopefully, one can step up enough so, that maybe we can let Adam go.

Dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to push Adam out the door but, he is someone who cant be depended on. You shouldnt have to constantly worry what a player is doing off of the field like this.

Basically, Jenkins starts on the outside, Scandrick in the slot, there will be some mistakes, but I like both these guys and we get to see what they can do, if both really look promising then we may not need to bother with Adam, hope someone steps up.

[SuperKevin]

Wow. You better hope Roy Williams lives up to his potential. You all gave up a fortune

[thule]

Only bad thing about this is we likely won't see our dime package out on the field...where Henry lines up on the TE...something that has been somewhat overlooked this year...I think he's played that position really solid this year.

[M.O.T.H.]

I wonder how pissed off Crayton is. He is one of our cockiest players who certainly has a pretty big ego. I liked that he was trying to rally the troops this week but, now he just lost his starting job. Obviously, he's better in the slot but, once you get a taste of starting this could cause a few problems.

[SuperKevin]

I wonder how pissed off Crayton is. He is one of our cockiest players who certainly has a pretty big ego. I liked that he was trying to rally the troops this week but, now he just lost his starting job. Obviously, he's better in the slot but, once you get a taste of starting this could cause a few problems.

I would hope his less than stellar play this season has taken his ego down a notch this year. He's had more than a few big drops this year

[LonghornsLegend]

I wonder how pissed off Crayton is. He is one of our cockiest players who certainly has a pretty big ego. I liked that he was trying to rally the troops this week but, now he just lost his starting job. Obviously, he's better in the slot but, once you get a taste of starting this could cause a few problems.

I thought about that, wondered how much he would embrace Roy when he gets here...Either way as a player it should only motivate you to play harder, Crayton got his deal not long ago but he knows he's not a game changing WR...He plays well out of the slot anyway.

[dan77733]

Wouldnt it have just been smarter to sign WR Randy Moss (to replace Glenn)and OG Alan Faneca (to replace Kosier) back in March or is that just me?

Plus, we would still have our draft picks. Oh well, things should be interesting come Sunday against the Rams.

[M.O.T.H.]

Jerry was staying true to his young receivers (Terry Glenn was also still in the mix) and Kosier was never really a major problem, he's been solid and now he is missed.

The deal w/ the Wrs now, though...Hurd is now out for the year and Stanback is still far too raw to contribute.

[BackwoodsBoy]

Are you guys going to have enough money to keep Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, Chris Canty and all the 437 draft picks you have this year?

How about now?

[Modano]

This is our draft picks situation, via the DMN

ROUND ONE (0)

To Detroit for Roy Williams

ROUND TWO (1)

Dallas

ROUND THREE (1)

To Detroit for Roy Williams

Cleveland (Acquired in 2008 Draft Day trade: for Detroit 2008 R4 pick)

ROUND FOUR (2)

Dallas

Detroit (Acquired in 2008 Draft Day trade: for Dallas 2008 R3 pick)

ROUND 5 (2)

Dallas

Tennessee (As a result of Adam Jones 2nd suspension)

ROUND 6 (1)

To Detroit for Roy Williams (Tennessee contingency cancelled as a result of Adam Jones 2nd suspension)

Miami (Acquired in 2008 Ferguson Trade)

ROUND 7 (2)

Dallas

Detroit (Acquired in Roy Williams trade)

Considering that Detroit has a very good chance to be #1 on the board we basically have another 3rd rounder and another 6th.
We're gonna get some compensatory picks for Julius Jones and Jacques Reeves. Reeves is a starter in Houston so I think we'll get a 7th. If Julius can put up decent number we can get a 5th.

So, we already used our 1st rounder for a WR who can start immediately and we have a lot of picks to move up if we need it. Not bad...

Anyway, Favre called Romo to offer his support.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3643335

[Modano]

From the DMN

In his weekly stop with The Ticket's Dunham & Miller, Wade Phillips said Romo would throw in practice today and his status could be re-evaluated. At least that is what I think Phillips said while dodging most of the questions, supplying non-answers. He's really good at that.

Maybe Romo can get back earlier than we expect...

[LonghornsLegend]

I really hope we get something for JJ, but who knows, somebody might cancel that pick out...LOL I really did get a laugh out of seeing us have 2 extra picks because Adam Jones screwed up, it really does suck but the deal was incredible, I don't understand how Tennessee was ok giving picks back if he gets suspended, and we can still keep him after that if we want.


Looking at our picks its a good chance we still move up in the 2nd if we see somebody we want to make sure we get, or maybe we play the trade back game again to stockpile for next year...We have two 4th rounders and two 5ths, we all know what type of talent we can get in those middle rounds, I would be cool just staying where we are and picking in those rounds and find a few steals.

[SuperKevin]

Looking at our picks its a good chance we still move up in the 2nd if we see somebody we want to make sure we get, or maybe we play the trade back game again to stockpile for next year...We have two 4th rounders and two 5ths, we all know what type of talent we can get in those middle rounds, I would be cool just staying where we are and picking in those rounds and find a few steals.

I agree. You all don't have too many glaring holes that can't be addressed in the mid to late rounds.

[Modano]

I just saw Roy interview on the Cowboys site. He looks like a good guy, he wasn't cocky, he wants to get the playbook as soon as possible and help this team.

[DMWSackMachine]

Did anyone see the bit about Favre calling Romo? It was an interesting tidbit. I think Brett wanted to encourage Tony to play through this, if possible. I can't see how this could be any worse than when Brett broke his thumb.

Brett also said that he feels that Tony is a top 5 player in the NFL, regardless of position. High praise from one of the best to ever play.

[leroyisgod]

Didn't Brett play like crap when he had a broken finger on his throwing hand?

[DancingMonkey]

Question - why can't the Roy trade be like Moss going to the Pats last year? Disgruntled star WR on a losing (and incompetent) team.. traded to a team he's always wanted to play for..

Granted, our starting QB is gone for several weeks and RW is not RM, but I still have a good feeling about the trade overall.

[Paul]

Another Injury

Add LB Kevin Burnett, who plays in nickel and dime situations and leads the team in special teams tackles, to the Cowboys' lengthy injury list.

Burnett is sitting out practice and has a protective boot on his left foot. We'll let you know when we know more about his injury.


Not really surprising that Burnett is hurt...again.

[pocketaces]

"That makes them a much more dangerous team and they were already a great one," said Giants owner John Mara, a day after his defending Super Bowl champions were run over in Cleveland. "He's a great player and he makes them much tougher to defend. They gave up a lot for him, but he makes them better."

[snip]

"I'm sure that when other defensive coordinators heard that Romo was out, they thought, ‘Oh, we can just blitz and dare Johnson to beat us deep,' " an assistant coach from another team said. "Now, you can't do that because you're going to have to respect both sides of the formation."

[snip]

"They weren't easy to defend before this," another assistant coach said. "Personally, I thought (Patrick) Crayton and the other kid (Miles Austin) were pretty good. But Williams is in a different league than those guys. With (Crayton and Austin), you'd take your chances. With Williams, he's going to hurt you. I shouldn't say this, but this group could be a better offense than when they had (Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith).

"Yeah, you could say it's overkill and there won't be enough passes to go around, but good luck defending them. There's going to be somebody running free all the time."


Thanks to BTB

[pocketaces]

Did anybody see on ESPN that Romo is in the top 4 in the NFL in QB rating, yards, TDs, and I think wins since his first start?

[thule]

Romo's statline has never been a problem...I guess that doesn't surprise me that he has top 4 stats.

[M.O.T.H.]

Statistically he has been one of the best over his short career. He has had a very Warner like start but, as of late his numbers for this season, have become more of a fallacy. He hasnt been great in every game this year but, he still lucked into a couple more 300 yard games. When Tony's mind is right, he is one of the best, that's the truth but, his mind hasnt been righ since week 2. It's like a light switch was turned off and he fell into a dark place. Hopefully, we'll see a happy and rejuvinated player when he returns so, he can continue on a extremely impressive start to a young career.

[leroyisgod]

Well it looks like Romo is gonna play through the injury.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3645737

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I mean I don't want him out, but I feel that we could go 2-1 in the next three without him. I'd rather that he's healthy for the stretch run after the bye week.

[SuperKevin]

Well it looks like Romo is gonna play through the injury.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3645737

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I mean I don't want him out, but I feel that we could go 2-1 in the next three without him. I'd rather that he's healthy for the stretch run after the bye week.

It's good for his reputation but bad for the Cowboys right now. I don't know how happy TO and Roy Williams will be when Romo can't throw the ball with any velocity farther than like 20 yards.

[Menardo75]

Just keep him out until we play you guys than im good :)

[johnstonolb]

Only one stat that matters for a QB.

[pocketaces]

Only one stat that matters for a QB.

Who has the hottest girlfriend?:p

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[johnstonolb]

Who has the hottest girlfriend?:p

Tom Brady.

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

It wouldnt hurt my feelings at all to sit Romo so his hand heals properly.

By the way, I am excited to see #11 on the field. I am not sure how it is gonna work, but I am excited.

And I really miss Felix already...

[Notredameleo]

So, what is the overall consensus on the Roy trade? Are you guys happy with it, do you think you gave up too much? Roy is one of the few lions players that I actually liked at the time of his release or cut, so I hope he does well with you guys, although, sorry, im not going to be rooting for you as a team, for my own stingy reasons, the lions getting a higher draft pick. But best of luck to you guys with roy.

[D-Unit]

So, what is the overall consensus on the Roy trade? Are you guys happy with it, do you think you gave up too much? Roy is one of the few lions players that I actually liked at the time of his release or cut, so I hope he does well with you guys, although, sorry, im not going to be rooting for you as a team, for my own stingy reasons, the lions getting a higher draft pick. But best of luck to you guys with roy.
It was fair. I think both sides got what they wanted. I don't think the price is too much. The 3rd and 6th rounders don't bother me. We frequently waste those picks. As for the 1st.. we wouldn't have gotten anyone with the talent Roy has at that pick. For the Lions, they need as many picks as they can gather to speed up the rebuilding process. It's good.

[Modano]

It was fair. I think both sides got what they wanted. I don't think the price is too much. The 3rd and 6th rounders don't bother me. We frequently waste those picks. As for the 1st.. we wouldn't have gotten anyone with the talent Roy has at that pick. For the Lions, they need as many picks as they can gather to speed up the rebuilding process. It's good.

Yeah, I agree. Considering we have a ton ofr draft picks we just gave our 1st for Roy. Considering also that we could've spent that pick on a WR it's a good move because we got an hell of a talent that doesn't need 3 years to develope and really wants to play for this team. He said that having a star on the side of his helmet has always been his dream.

Anyway, where have you been? With all those bad things happening we missed your positivity, man!

[DMWSackMachine]

The biggest aspect of the deal, in relation to a "1st round pick vs. Roy Williams", that is being over looked is the fact that with a 1st rounder, you get (usually) a high quality player who you don't have to pay a lot for. DeMarcus signed a contract that will give him about 2.5m a season. He's still playing under that contract. Sure, top 10 contracts have gotten out of hand, and top 5 are completely and utterly insane, but after that you get a chance for a premium talent playing at relative bargain basement price.

If we could have somehow guaranteed that a young WR taken in the late 1st would have been a good player, it would have been 5x as attractive for us, because we could have that player for 4 or 5 years at ~1.5m per year. Of course, getting that guarantee is the hard part, and it usually takes a few years just to know whether he is going to be what you're looking for in the first place. But the biggest value to 1st rounders is the fact that you get good players for cheap. You can only have so many big money contracts on one team, no matter how you cook the books, and that is why I'm not a big fan of this move. Roy will immediately be making 8 or 9mil a season. That is too much to swallow.

[ricowboy]

We paid a for a very good player. Imagine if Roy Williams had a good QB throwing to him! Harrington and Kitna are not pro bowlers. This is a good trade now, a year from now and three years from now.

I have to give JJ props in the accounting department. He will find a way to keep Ware and Canty. We may let Columbo go, but I can live with it because we have Free and he has looked good in preseason.

90's and NOW:

90's=Aikman,Emmitt,Irving,Novaceck,Harper,No backup RB,KMart(wr)

Now=Romo,Barber,TO,Williams,Witten,F.Jones,Crayton

Their are alot of similarities. Now they just need to put it together.

The multiple draft picks left over after the trade will fill in the holes. Also, don't discaount free agents coming to Dallas for a run at a ring!

[D-Unit]

Yeah, I agree. Considering we have a ton ofr draft picks we just gave our 1st for Roy. Considering also that we could've spent that pick on a WR it's a good move because we got an hell of a talent that doesn't need 3 years to develope and really wants to play for this team. He said that having a star on the side of his helmet has always been his dream.

Anyway, where have you been? With all those bad things happening we missed your positivity, man!
I took my family to Disneyland. :D

Guess who I ran into at the USC bookstore? Rey Maualuga. Super cool dude.

[D-Unit]

The biggest aspect of the deal, in relation to a "1st round pick vs. Roy Williams", that is being over looked is the fact that with a 1st rounder, you get (usually) a high quality player who you don't have to pay a lot for. DeMarcus signed a contract that will give him about 2.5m a season. He's still playing under that contract. Sure, top 10 contracts have gotten out of hand, and top 5 are completely and utterly insane, but after that you get a chance for a premium talent playing at relative bargain basement price.

If we could have somehow guaranteed that a young WR taken in the late 1st would have been a good player, it would have been 5x as attractive for us, because we could have that player for 4 or 5 years at ~1.5m per year. Of course, getting that guarantee is the hard part, and it usually takes a few years just to know whether he is going to be what you're looking for in the first place. But the biggest value to 1st rounders is the fact that you get good players for cheap. You can only have so many big money contracts on one team, no matter how you cook the books, and that is why I'm not a big fan of this move. Roy will immediately be making 8 or 9mil a season. That is too much to swallow.
That is sound logic, but I've learned that Jerry Jones knows how to hold onto a good thing when he sees it. It makes me sleep well at night. ;)

[leroyisgod]

Okay, well I have to say I've done my best to stay away from watching ESPN, NFL Network and listening to any talk radio as that relates to the Cowboys this week. I have even not been reading too many posts on NFLDC this week as well. I've needed the time to evaluate this past week's game as well as the injuries, Adam Jones suspension and Roy Williams trade.

The Romo situation is one I'm not sure how to take. I feel that if he sits for the next three games, we have a good chance of going 2-1. And going into the bye week being 6-3. Granted I thought we'd be more like 8-1, but 6-3 would be solid with all things considered. I know that other QB's like Favre have played through an injury like this, but if I remember correctly Favre wasn't himself. So I'm a little torn here and would almost rather air on the side of caution.

Felix Jones injury- This is probably a little more damaging than the Romo injury. Anytime you have an injury like a hamstring injury, it's not an easy one to come back from. They claim he's out two weeks, but I could see this ending up more like 4-5 weeks. This changes our offense a lot and I could see Garrett throwing the ball a lot more. Me personally, I'd like to see Tashard Choice get 3-4 carries a game during this time. He doesn't give you what Jones does, but I think he's adequate to spell Barber from time to time.

Adam "Don't call me Pacman" Jones suspension- Well nobody can say they didn't see this as a possibility. He was starting to get his legs under him at CB and it really hurts us. Even though I feel Jenkins will play well, he's still a rookie and OC's are going to target him in the pass game. We'll need to roll a safety over to help him and hopefully this doesn't leave us to susceptible to balls down the middle. Adam really hasn't helped out our return game this year, so I don't believe it'll be hard to replace him there.

Special Teams meltdown- Special Teams has been the main achilles of this team all year long. Even with bringing Keith Davis back, the coverage units have been terrible. And then the lapse on punt coverage in OT on Sunday that also led to McBriar being out for the season. I'm hoping that Roy will come back and be put back into ST play. He was making some plays against Philly before he was injured.

Roy Williams Trade- Well I was all for this trade at the draft and before the season started. However, I really seeing this stunt the growth of Miles Austin, which is a shame because he's showing promise. Don't get me wrong, the idea of Williams & Owens on the outside, Crayton playing the slot and Witten at TE is a DEADLY, DEADLY offense. I just feel this almost makes Austin the odd man out. When will he get on the field? Because we typically don't do 4 WR sets since we have Witten. And the way the OL played this past week, we need to keep a RB in the backfield. I guess this is good issue to have. I do see the long term plan here, Roy will be the replacement for TO.

All in all with all the issues this past week, I strongly feel that it's not as bad as it appears. We just need to remain focused and not let all this hoopla get to us. I mean we did lose a game and some players(other than McBriar none for the season), but at the same time we didn't lose any ground on the Giants & Redskins since they both crapped the bed like we did. Let's remember that the NFL season is a marathon and not a sprint. The last few seasons we've fell flat the last few games of the season. I'd rather see us slip in the first half than the second half.

[LonghornsLegend]

Five-time Pro Bowler Ty Law, 34, would love to play for a Super Bowl contender that needs some veteran help at cornerback. The Cowboys happen to have only one healthy, non-suspended cornerback with any starting experience.

Law, who started every game for Kansas City last season, mentioned Dallas and Green Bay as potential good fits for him to NFL Network's Adam Schefter. He said he isn't looking for a lot of money, but just wants to "feel respected."

Asked about the idea of playing in Dallas, Law said: "That would be a great opportunity, to play for a contender. I just don't want to play for anybody. I want to play for a contender, where I have the chance to go to the Super Bowl. I can help Dallas. I have the experience, I have been there before and I can help get a team over the edge. I'm not going to be a weak link for anybody and I'd love to try to provide some leadership for Dallas."

Law has been working out in Florida and is reportedly in discussions with the Dolphins. He said he would be ready to play right away.
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/cb-ty-law-lobbies-to-come-to-cowboys.html#comments



What do you guys think for the vet minimum?

[LonghornsLegend]

Roy Williams Trade- Well I was all for this trade at the draft and before the season started. However, I really seeing this stunt the growth of Miles Austin, which is a shame because he's showing promise. Don't get me wrong, the idea of Williams & Owens on the outside, Crayton playing the slot and Witten at TE is a DEADLY, DEADLY offense. I just feel this almost makes Austin the odd man out. When will he get on the field? Because we typically don't do 4 WR sets since we have Witten. And the way the OL played this past week, we need to keep a RB in the backfield. I guess this is good issue to have. I do see the long term plan here, Roy will be the replacement for TO.


See that's the only part where I disagree, if you can play you can play, I don't think there is a such thing as stunting his growth as a WR by signing Roy, Miles can still play his butt off in 3 and 4 Wr sets and prove he can be a future #2 WR on this team...He has been on the field more then Crayton lately and out producing him, if that continues he will see more snaps out of the slot because his deep speed could be deadly.


Just because he's performing well doesn't mean we can't address the position, had we drafted Eddie Royal or Desean Jackson they would be starting over Miles also so this is no different, he's already had his growth as a WR and knows the system well, one new WR won't stop that from happening if he continues to practice and work hard...Only thing we might see is a dip in his production but certainly not in his growth as a WR.

[shane_man]

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/cb-ty-law-lobbies-to-come-to-cowboys.html#comments



What do you guys think for the vet minimum?

Exactly the type of pickup we should be looking for if we need help in the short term at CB. It gives Jenkins enough gametime where he can get used to the situation while Law provides a safety blanket in case Jenkins starts getting abused when he's in there. In the same way I thought the Zach Thomas signing was a good one. He's too old to play all downs every day. Which gives our backups a chance to get on the field more often(bad luck about Burnett though)

Bring us some Ty Law... Yes PLEASE~!

[D-Unit]

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/cb-ty-law-lobbies-to-come-to-cowboys.html#comments



What do you guys think for the vet minimum?
Honestly, I'm mad that he's not already here. I wanted Parcells to get him here... him being a Parcells guy and all... he might be a bit too old, but then again, Aaron Glenn had a little left in the tank for us.

[Modano]

I took my family to Disneyland. :D

Guess who I ran into at the USC bookstore? Rey Maualuga. Super cool dude.

Did you tell him to slip to the second round because we need him?

[BackwoodsBoy]

We paid a for a very good player. Imagine if Roy Williams had a good QB throwing to him! Harrington and Kitna are not pro bowlers. This is a good trade now, a year from now and three years from now.

I have to give JJ props in the accounting department. He will find a way to keep Ware and Canty. We may let Columbo go, but I can live with it because we have Free and he has looked good in preseason.

90's and NOW:

90's=Aikman,Emmitt,Irving,Novaceck,Harper,No backup RB,KMart(wr)

Now=Romo,Barber,TO,Williams,Witten,F.Jones,Crayton

Their are alot of similarities. Now they just need to put it together.

The multiple draft picks left over after the trade will fill in the holes. Also, don't discaount free agents coming to Dallas for a run at a ring!

Huge difference between the dominating team of the 90's and the team built now...the offensive line back then was far far far(I can't say far enough time) greater then the overrated thrown together job you have inplace right now. The offensive line now isn't horrible, but its overrated(by non-cowboy fans obviously as I see most Cowboy fans want to upgrade the line) and not even in the same school district as the 90's Oline let alone the same class.

[leroyisgod]

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/10/cb-ty-law-lobbies-to-come-to-cowboys.html#comments



What do you guys think for the vet minimum?

I've heard his price has come down, but do you really think it's going to come down to league minimum for a vet?

[LonghornsLegend]

Law does seem like it makes a little too much sense, again I'm not sure exactly what his price is but I think I remember his saying from his own mouth "I'm not asking for alot of money I just want a chance to win a ring" and over here he gets a chance to just show the rookies the ropes as he does have experience in playing corner in a 3-4.


Thing is it probably would take a minute to learn the defense, either way Ty is a guy who knows the ropes, he won't be asked to follow around a teams #1 WR on an island nor will he have to play 3 downs, but if he's wanting to come to Dallas then certainly we should offer some sort of 1 year deal...I don't want to get my hopes up though.

[thule]

Leroy just to touch on the Romo/Brett thing...DMN actually posted this up. Farve played well with his fracture.

So Brett Favre told Romo about how he played with a fractured thumb in 2003, wearing a splint to protect him for the final nine games of the season.

How did Favre do in those games? He had 19 touchdown passes and 12 interceptions and the Packers went 7-2 to close the season and make the playoffs. He had two four-touchdown games and two three-ionterception games.

[thule]

Put me on the law bandwagon....I was on the bus with D way back when parcells shoulda taken a shot at him.

[Modano]

I've heard his price has come down, but do you really think it's going to come down to league minimum for a vet?

I don't think he can ask for a lot more than the minimum vet. Honestly he's 34 and he's a FA. There are only two options for him: playing for the minimum vet or not playing at all.

[D-Unit]

Did you tell him to slip to the second round because we need him?
Haha. I ran into him on Monday.... that was before the Roy trade. We talked a little bit about Hawaii and I told him good luck with his season and in the pros. Should I post the picture that I took with him?

[D-Unit]

I don't think he can ask for a lot more than the minimum vet. Honestly he's 34 and he's a FA. There are only two options for him: playing for the minimum vet or not playing at all.
His addition would be gladly welcomed. His leadership and experience could do wonders for our teams confidence going forward. No one on our team has won a SB before. He knows what it takes.

[Paul]

Law just knows how to play the game and the CB position. If we do get him, I'm obviously not expecting the guy from 5 years ago, but I do expect a professional who can be a GREAT role model and teacher for Jenkins and Scandrick.

[Modano]

Haha. I ran into him on Monday.... that was before the Roy trade. We talked a little bit about Hawaii and I told him good luck with his season and in the pros. Should I post the picture that I took with him?

Should you? You must.

[ChezPower4]

Law just knows how to play the game and the CB position. If we do get him, I'm obviously not expecting the guy from 5 years ago, but I do expect a professional who can be a GREAT role model and teacher for Jenkins and Scandrick.

your right about the leadership and i think Law could come in a play ok if givien the chance to play

[leroyisgod]

Screw Ty Law, he's old and washed up. If he had any real value, somebody would've snatched him up by now.

[johnstonolb]

NFC East blog -- ESPN.com's Matt Mosley writes about all things NFC East in his division blog...............


Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said on his weekly radio show Friday morning that Romo "looks like he'll be able to play Sunday." Jones said there was no chance that Romo could reinjure the pinkie because of the cast-like protection on his hand.

"It will be up to him. If he is feeling good and the pain is good, then it's likely he'll play," Jones said. "It's down to can he handle the pain?"

When Phillips was asked if he had been told Romo couldn't do further damage to the finger, the coach responded, "Dr. Jerry. Whatever Jerry says, I'm going with."

............. I thought that last paragraph was interesting.

[LonghornsLegend]

I've been watching some film on various Cowboys shows about how TO has been covered, and it's been as expected; someone jams hit at the line and closes off the inside to make him release outside, and shadows the safety over top.


My question is why are we not seeing TO in motion anymore like we were last year, or frankly putting him in positions that aren't so predictable...He was lining up in the slot quite a bit, going in motion to the other side and then getting him a clean release off the line to pick up speed...Now he's always on the outside, consistently trying to beat the jam and having a safety sitting there, so we have been forcing it into double coverage just to give him some looks.


I would like to think we could do that before we got Roy because we did last year so it's puzzling, but if Garrett is really this offensive 'guru' like I felt he was he should be figuring out how to get TO open the same way as last year...Our offense is just not moving the ball the same way as last year so I don't know why he's going so vanilla with the sets so much.

[SuperKevin]

Screw Ty Law, he's old and washed up. If he had any real value, somebody would've snatched him up by now.

He'd be an excellent mentor for guys like Jenkins and Scandrick though at the right price

[D-Unit]

Screw Ty Law, he's old and washed up. If he had any real value, somebody would've snatched him up by now.
I think Law could even provide help at Safety.

[M.O.T.H.]

Tony's going to dress but, Brad is expected to start according to ESPN News. Tony is still struggling to grip the ball properly.

[johnstonolb]

Oh, and looks like the real genius in Dallas was Sparano .... but he was demoted the minute Parcells left.

[D-Unit]

I can understand everyone saying how pitiful this team is from top to bottom, but for some strange reason, I'm still at ease with our current situation. Not entirely, but for the most part. I expected us to beat the Rams even without Romo, but still, I'm not really worried about what has happened in the last month as am more concerned with how we come out of it... or if we come out of it. If we DON'T come out of it, well I expect Wade to get fired. If we DO come out of it, I think our team will be more mentally strong than ever before. I think the real leaders of the team will come forward and show themselves and I think we can make a serious run at the SB. In my ideal scenario, I hope we are heading into the playoffs with a 10-6 or 11-5 record. I want us to be battle tested BEFORE we get there, so that when we DO get there, we won't be so flaky as we have been in the past.

Yeah, yeah... so we're 4-3. I don't care. These next 2 weeks will tell me all I need to know about our season and what will happen. We have Tampa at home and then we play at NY before our Bye Week. Tampa and NY are the 2 best teams in the NFC. Tampa hasn't allowed a rushing TD all season and beating NY will do wonders for us going forward. If we can beat both teams, then I'll be confident going forward and the Cowboys Super Bowl aspirations can be kept alive. If we go 1-1, we'll still be in for more battles. If we go 0-2, our season is over.

[Modano]

D is wise.

[johnstonolb]

Yes, if we go 9-0 the rest of the season we will be in good shape but right now we are 2-3 in the NFC and playing like a 3-13 team.

This team what built to get out in front and get to January. Well, right now we are in a dog fight by losing to the softest teams on the schedule.

Time will tell but given the trajectory, the personalities and recent past of the team I have no earthly idea why anyone would be positive or not worried. The light at the end of the tunnel sometimes is a train.....

[leroyisgod]

The next two weeks are going to be key for our season.

[M.O.T.H.]

Looks like Wade may soon relieve Stewart of playcalling duties and he will take over the playcalling.

[D-Unit]

Looks like Wade may soon relieve Stewart of playcalling duties and he will take over the playcalling.
I would be glad to see that if it comes to fruition. Wade has always been a better coordinator than HC. The reason why I welcomed his arrival in the first place was because of the job he did as DC and the schemes he brought. When he gave that up to Stewart, he essentially gave up the main thing that made me excited with his arrival in the first place. Where is that attacking 3-4 versus Parcells' passive 3-4?

I like Wade. He's a really nice guy. But he's not the guy for this team. He should've been hired as DC. As a DC, his personality works great especially under a stern disciplinarian type head coach because he can keep his troops cool and loose on the down low. As a HC, he just doesn't instill enough discipline in his team. He's a players coach and the team Jerry has built doesn't have strong player leadership. Adding a player like Zach Thomas helps, but no one can expect him to be a leader from Day 1. He said so himself, that he's just trying to fit in.

Perhaps what this team needs more than anything is for Tony Romo to take more leadership. Right now, he tries to avoid it. Every time he addresses the media, he down plays victories, or just says, "Hey, we got beat by the better team today." I don't see remorse and then the drive to do better on his part. I don't see him taking guys under his wing, making his teammates feel like brothers. Maybe I'm overplaying it a bit. I dunno. I just know he needs to step up in a big way. Right now he's just a Steve Beuerlein ... he needs to take the next step to be a Troy Aikman.

[LonghornsLegend]

I'm not calling it quits on the season, or saying were in over our heads, but we still played like total crap, I can take a loss, but the way we lost just shouldn't happen with the amount of talent we have, and the amount of money our coaches make, we deserve to catch a ****storm from the media this week to see how mentally tough we are when things don't go our way.

[johnstonolb]

Aikman was the man since HS. Always was, like Elway, Peyton. Natural leaders and always the big dog in the room.

Tony, however, is the product of a series of smart coaching choices but he needs to move past this and be the guy telling everyone else what to do.

Like telling TO, ball goes to single coverage or telling Garrett, audibling to run the damn ball or sending Bennett to the bench after a mistake. Some guys just have that moxie and brains.

Tony has all the ability but not the ego. He needs to grow that ego.

[D-Unit]

Aikman was the man since HS. Always was, like Elway, Peyton. Natural leaders and always the big dog in the room.

Tony, however, is the product of a series of smart coaching choices but he needs to move past this and be the guy telling everyone else what to do.

Like telling TO, ball goes to single coverage or telling Garrett, audibling to run the damn ball or sending Bennett to the bench after a mistake. Some guys just have that moxie and brains.

Tony has all the ability but not the ego. He needs to grow that ego.
I'd actually like to see Garrett let the reigns go a little and let Tony call more audibles at the line.

[Burns336]

The way I feel right now, and the way I see the season panning out, is us losing our next two, going into full collapse, pulling out 1 BS win somewhere in the middle, and then winning our last 3 games of the season in dominating fashion to finish 8-8.

Then at the end everyone will be saying "Why couldn't we play like this earlier when we still had a chance?"

and the answer will be that there was no pressure on us at the end of the season and guys were just able to play. No leaders right now, everyone is playing scared and tentative.

[johnstonolb]

I'd actually like to see Garrett let the reigns go a little and let Tony call more audibles at the line.

I think you and I are saying the same thing -- my only small difference to yur post is I think TONY needs to demand it.

Rather ask for forgiveness than for permission.

[Macarthur]

Here's a couple of my observations.

Defense:

-It appears from what I am reading that Wade is going to simplify the scheme and turn the guys lose a bit more and allow them to make plays. Some of them have said they may be "thinking" too much out there. This could be a real key.

-Aggression...I know I'm not breaking news here, but he has to turn these guys lose and let them run around and make plays. We've been playing a bend and don't break philosophy on defense. The problem is that we bend and then break. At least turn the guys lose, play more man outside, and allow them to be aggressive and try to force a bad decision. At least if you're going to break, give your guys a chance to make a play.

Offense

-Formations & TO...As someone else stated earlier, we haven't been putting TO in motion much. We must get back to moving him around.

-I've also noticed that we are using the shotgun much more this year. Once you get in the shotgun, you are telling the defense you are going to pass about 90% of the time. Sure, you can run that little lead draw, but that really doesn't fool anyone. Put Romo back undercenter and force the defense to respect the run and pass.

-Last year we started games passing to set up the run. Remember last year how we would go after teams and pass their butts off and then wear them out with Barber in the 2nd half. It seems now that Garrrett has forced the issue of getting the running game going earlier. Not saying that's necessarily the wrong thing, but it goes against the identity that this offense established early last year. I think they need to get back to winging the ball around in the first half. Start the game going for the jugular, especially now that we have added another weapon! I just don't see the moxy that this offense & Garrett had early last year and I think it's a direct result of changing what they were doing that made them so explosive.

[Burns336]

Romo is out until after the bye. That's what he said on T.O.'s radio show tonight.

I'll be surprised if we win either of the next 2 games.

Of course ill be watching with my fingers crossed, nervous as hell and pretending like everything will go right and we'll win -- but I'll be surprised.

[LonghornsLegend]

Who thinks we can win these next two games vs Tampa Bay and the Giants without Romo? I don't, sorry but I don't think we will get past either team, I will root and cheer and hope it happens, but judging what I've seen the last month hard to feel confident...If Romo was out there that's one thing, but with Brad at QB we just HAVE to play defense to win, the same defense that has just been "good enough" forever to win games, won't be good enough with BJ out there and us scoring 17-20 points a game.


That's probably what our team needs, a game where our defense steps up and wins the game for us, but who knows...I certainly know if we don't look competitive vs Tampa somebody is going to lose their job.

[johnstonolb]

If we lose two in a row, we are done.

Maybe/Possibly/Hopefully/Finally, this offseason we rebuild from the inside out than the other way around...... not like this has not been on the radar for over 2 years ....

NT
ILB
Guards
Back-Up QB
Safeties

We are talented and have over spent on the edge of the field. Interior, not so much.

[D-Unit]

I believe our team's rebuilding efforts have taken a turn in the wrong direction.

The Roy Williams contract will negatively affect us in some way. His addition was a luxury. Our offense really wasn't a problem. All you need is 2 things to win in the NFL.

1) A strong running game
2) A stingy defense

Sure teams can win with other formulas, but this method is the most effective (cost wise and winning wise).

We got the running game. I think it's better than ever. The defense is almost there, it just needs a little more attention. The problem I feel is that I think it's a philosophical problem. I think the team thinks that they don't need a 2 gap NT. I think they like Ratliff there. So therein lies my worry.

Get the NT... that'll eliminate the need to address pressure from the DE position (by moving Ratliff to the outside). Beef up the talent at ILB or develop our young ILBs. We do that, and I think we can really have a chance at a SB.

Oh... and not let Garrett get so pass happy when he starts to feel the game pressure.

[Bruce Banner]

Did you guys just quit running the ball? I hope this trend continues when you face Tampa.

[D-Unit]

Did you guys just quit running the ball? I hope this trend continues when you face Tampa.
As soon as Jason Garrett sees that the running game is going good, he stops it... cause he always wants to check to see if the passing game can keep up. God forbid the running game be better than the passing game in his mind. Running isn't what he's about or what he wants to be known for as an OC. Damn you JG. You're overrated.

[Bruce Banner]

As soon as Jason Garrett sees that the running game is going good, he stops it... cause he always wants to check to see if the passing game can keep up. God forbid the running game be better than the passing game in his mind. Running isn't what he's about or what he wants to be known for as an OC. Damn you JG. You're overrated.

and he is going to be the HC........

Will he be one of the few HCs that calls the offensive plays?

[awfullyquiet]

Did you guys just quit running the ball? I hope this trend continues when you face Tampa.

They did.

Garrett needs to get the ball to TO. Obviously... but.

I think Unit is wrong on that one. Roy isn't a 'luxury item', but a way to get creative and allow TO to get the ball more. Spreading the safeties wider and forcing plays outside will be a positive impact for both the running game and witten. Also he's basically the TO when TO decides he's done being TO. did i say TO enough?

[Bruce Banner]

They did.

Garrett needs to get the ball to TO. Obviously... but.

I think Unit is wrong on that one. Roy isn't a 'luxury item', but a way to get creative and allow TO to get the ball more. Spreading the safeties wider and forcing plays outside will be a positive impact for both the running game and witten. Also he's basically the TO when TO decides he's done being TO. did i say TO enough?

Well I don't expect many receivers to be getting the ball in space for a few weeks. TwO might get a few screens and such but the passing game will be garbage.

They must become a run first team to stay afloat with The Bull at the helm.

[D-Unit]

They did.

Garrett needs to get the ball to TO. Obviously... but.

I think Unit is wrong on that one. Roy isn't a 'luxury item', but a way to get creative and allow TO to get the ball more. Spreading the safeties wider and forcing plays outside will be a positive impact for both the running game and witten. Also he's basically the TO when TO decides he's done being TO. did i say TO enough?
You know how to get the ball to TO more?

It's a secret. A dirty bad secret....

Use the run to set up the pass. Force them to put 8 in the box.

We have the stable of backs and the OL to be successful running the ball.

WRs are so overrated in the NFL. Yeah, they can help you win, but you can win without em. In our case... TO and Witten and their cast of misfits were plenty enough to win with a strong running attack and strong defense.

I like the addition of Roy because it's a move that will insure our future at the WR position and we had the resources to make it happen at an affordable price.

I just hope we don't stray away from the run now that we have that added Roy (because he makes it an attractive option) and I hope the focus doesn't stray away from fixing the D. The D isn't in as bad shape as many think. But how to go about fixing it could be a philosophical problem. I'm not sure what the team thinks they need to do.

Roy (the safety) shouldn't be back. I think they need to look carefully at bringing Zach back (if the price is reasonable). Tank Johnson is a UFA. He hasn't delivered as hoped. ...but he doesn't cost much anyways. Good depth guy, nothing more. Hatcher and Spears are the same. Don't cost much and are good depth guys, but when their rookie contracts expire, they should be let go. Meanwhile, we should be looking at adding bodies at that position in the draft to replace them. Hey, we took a shot at it with them, but they didn't work out, so we need to keep giving more shots at some new guys.

[Bruce Banner]

WRs are so overrated in the NFL. Yeah, they can help you win, but you can win without em.


So true....but you will appreciate those receivers when they are gone.

See: Hilliard, Ike. #2 receiver.

[D-Unit]

Well I don't expect many receivers to be getting the ball in space for a few weeks. TwO might get a few screens and such but the passing game will be garbage.

They must become a run first team to stay afloat with The Bull at the helm.
With Brad Johnson back there.... yes. We NEED to run the ball. Tampa has an awesome run defense. I want to see us give it to them. Exploit them. Enforce our will upon them. Mano a mano. Put our Run offense against their Run defense and see who comes out on top. We can't just put it on Barber's shoulders either. I think we need to see a good dose of Tashard Choice. Too bad Felix is out.

[Bruce Banner]

With Brad Johnson back there.... yes. We NEED to run the ball. Tampa has an awesome run defense. I want to see us give it to them. Exploit them. Enforce our will upon them. Mano a mano. Put our Run offense against their Run defense and see who comes out on top. We can't just put it on Barber's shoulders either. I think we need to see a good dose of Tashard Choice. Too bad Felix is out.

Felix is out? The Bucs' chance at winning just shot up. I was seriously fearing him....more than Barber for sure.

[D-Unit]

So true....but you will appreciate those receivers when they are gone.

See: Hilliard, Ike. #2 receiver.
Well, I think you do need a capable #1 type receiver, but you don't need 2.

It's weird, because I think Jerry did the right thing by picking up Roy. Timing was good, price was ok... Need?.... I didn't see it as a pressing need.

[D-Unit]

Felix is out? The Bucs' chance at winning just shot up. I was seriously fearing him....more than Barber for sure.
Hamstring injury that was supposed to keep him out 2-4 weeks. Unless he's miracle man, I think he's still out.

[Bruce Banner]

Hmm. The Bucs dodge a bullet.

The biggest matchup IMO is our run game against your run D. The Bucs tailbacks are averaging like 5 yards or more per carry this year and Gruden seems hellbent on playing the clock control game.

[D-Unit]

Hmm. The Bucs dodge a bullet.

The biggest matchup IMO is our run game against your run D. The Bucs tailbacks are averaging like 5 yards or more per carry this year and Gruden seems hellbent on playing the clock control game.
Over 5 yards a carry? He has no reason to pass.

Did you see Steven Jackson run all over us? You have no fear against our non-existent run D.

[D-Unit]

GREAT! Phillips is going to take over defensive playcalling.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3657314

Looks like Jerry forced it upon him. Me love me some Jerry Jones. :D

[Bruce Banner]

GREAT! Phillips is going to take over defensive playcalling.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3657314

Looks like Jerry forced it upon him. Me love me some Jerry Jones. :D

So who's going to take control of the offense?

o wait.

[awfullyquiet]

Over 5 yards a carry? He has no reason to pass.

Did you see Steven Jackson run all over us? You have no fear against our non-existent run D.

I will, of course, start graham against dallas. and of course, on that day, garcia goes down and griese throws for 500 yards. cripes.

Using the run to set up the pass is a great idea, and always will be a great idea, but, garrett apparently wants to pass to set up the run, and run something 'balanced', maybe not over the past few weeks, but over the course of the season, sometimes going to a more-pass-happy offense.

[Burns336]

It's tough for Barber to impose his will on the opposing team when he gets hit at or behind the line on almost every play.

Yes, this even happened against the Rams.

If the O-line doesn't man up in general, it won't matter what style of offense we are rolling with. Run or pass, we will fail.

[M.O.T.H.]

It's tough for Barber to impose his will on the opposing team when he gets hit at or behind the line on almost every play.

Yes, this even happened against the Rams.

If the O-line doesn't man up in general, it won't matter what style of offense we are rolling with. Run or pass, we will fail.

Our run blocking, just like last year is very sporadic...we're much better in pass protection. I've said it before, Barber is getting to see what it was like to be Julius Jones last year...the holes just arent there. Go see what Julius has done this season when he actually has a hole to run through. He's been playing great football. But anyway, back to Barber...this blocking problem still doesnt make up for the fact that his fumbling problem has become very evident w/ the increased work load. If you guys remember, BP wouldnt even let him carry the football his rookie year because, he was fumbling everything. This is really going to need to be corrected, we cant have our starting RB leading the league in fumbles, which he currently is.

[D-Unit]

Our run blocking, just like last year is very sporadic...we're much better in pass protection. I've said it before, Barber is getting to see what it was like to be Julius Jones last year...the holes just arent there. Go see what Julius has done this season when he actually has a hole to run through. He's been playing great football. But anyway, back to Barber...this blocking problem still doesnt make up for the fact that his fumbling problem has become very evident w/ the increased work load. If you guys remember, BP wouldnt even let him carry the football his rookie year because, he was fumbling everything. This is really going to need to be corrected, we cant have our starting RB leading the league in fumbles, which he currently is.
That just proves to me how great a RB Barber is because of the things he's doing this year that Julius couldn't do last year. Julius has no vision and falls down on first contact. Without holes to run through, he's a complete non-factor. Barber makes gains out of would be losses. Hard to blame a guy for fumbles when he plays with the most heart on the team.

[M.O.T.H.]

It's a complete fallacy that he has no vision...that was just an excuse people came up w/ while he was here...but, in reality he was continually getting tackled right at the line. Again, he has been playing great football in Seattle and his vision looks absolutely fine. That was never the problem...our line just isnt all that great at run blocking and that makes Marion the better fit, given his style and his ability to move laterally and creat his own space. Julius really isnt a bad back at all...just a bad fit here really. Also, he's the type of back that needs time to feel out a defense...just like his brother, they're featured backs that need 20+ carries to really be effective. Neither is the same when used in a dual type backfield.

Also, the fumbles cant all be forgiven...He has three in the last three games and he is losing them in one on one tackling situations, it's not like he's carrying 5 guys on his back when he loses it.

[bigbluedefense]

you have the horses to run the rock.

the problem is running blocking is all about repetition. you can't just throw big bodies back there and expect them to run block well without practicing it a lot or gelling. and that's Garrett's fault.


they need more reps run blocking. and a disciplinarian on offense that will get on their ass when they miss a block. this team is just too coddled honestly.


as for Wade taking over for the defense, I see not much of a difference. its always been a Wade Phillips defense. thats what Wade does. his pass coverages have always been terrible. ask any chargers fan.


And for all the love he gets for "turning the defense around", i don't get it. not at any single time in his tenior has Wade Phillip's defense been ranked higher than Parcells. It was ranked 9th last year (BP's defense was #2 in the league before Ellis went out for the year), and this year middle of the pack. He was supposed to fix the pass D, yet it was still not too difficult to throw on Dallas's defense. He fixed nothing. He just added window dressing with some improved sack numbers. Sack numbers that improved moreso bc Ware improved as a player than bc of a scheme change.

More importantly, Dallas's run defense was always lights out. This year its average. I think that should be your biggest concern.

[MetSox17]

A little off-topic, but anyone else feel that the promises of more pressure and better run defending with the 3-4 have been nothing but false hopes and illusions? When Parcells came in and created this defensive personnel, we were great against the run, but always lacked pressure from our LB's. So we go out, we use three first round picks on LB's, and granted we got arguably the best defensive player in the league in the process, but our defense is still being abused.

We can make the case all day, and argue until our fingers are tired of typing on how good pass rush provides better coverage, or vice versa, but at this point we're getting neither from our defense. What's the deal? We have so much invested in our defense and it has given us little to nothing this year. The disappointment is becoming unbearable at this point.

[Burns336]

Well not sure about all that Moth, Julius apparently went off on Mike Holmgren because he isn't happy.

Who knows, maybe holmgren turned him into a robot?

I still think Julius was the problem. Barber is avg. 4.2 YPC and Felix 8.7 or something like that. It has more to do with momentum. When the team is clicking the offense is flowing and everyone is charged up, we can run block with the best of them.

Lately we've been playing at a slower tempo and it seems like the O-line loses their edge when everything doesn't go smooth. Pathetic, yet true.

[Burns336]

A little off-topic, but anyone else feel that the promises of more pressure and better run defending with the 3-4 have been nothing but false hopes and illusions? When Parcells came in and created this defensive personnel, we were great against the run, but always lacked pressure from our LB's. So we go out, we use three first round picks on LB's, and granted we got arguably the best defensive player in the league in the process, but our defense is still being abused.

We can make the case all day, and argue until our fingers are tired of typing on how good pass rush provides better coverage, or vice versa, but at this point we're getting neither from our defense. What's the deal? We have so much invested in our defense and it has given us little to nothing this year. The disappointment is becoming unbearable at this point.

Well Moth, you'll be happy to know that Wade said we are finally going to start playing more man to man.

If you noticed, our pressure actually looked decent against the rams, we just got abused in the run game.

Wade also said a majority of the problems are occurring in Zone coverages.

He said specifically that Jenkins looked a lot better in bump-n-run mode and that we will see more of it starting this weekend.

I still think the problem is that our D-line sucks. All good defense have a BEAST d line. If we have a good D-line, our secondary would all look like studs. The OLB's would look even better. Think if Ware was playing behind Jamal Williams and Luis Castillo?

Lets hope now that wade has opened his eyes and figured out that 12 yards cushions are not the answer, that things will get a little better.

[M.O.T.H.]

you have the horses to run the rock.

the problem is running blocking is all about repetition. you can't just throw big bodies back there and expect them to run block well without practicing it a lot or gelling. and that's Garrett's fault.


they need more reps run blocking. and a disciplinarian on offense that will get on their ass when they miss a block. this team is just too coddled honestly.


as for Wade taking over for the defense, I see not much of a difference. its always been a Wade Phillips defense. thats what Wade does. his pass coverages have always been terrible. ask any chargers fan.


And for all the love he gets for "turning the defense around", i don't get it. not at any single time in his tenior has Wade Phillip's defense been ranked higher than Parcells. It was ranked 9th last year (BP's defense was #2 in the league before Ellis went out for the year), and this year middle of the pack. He was supposed to fix the pass D, yet it was still not too difficult to throw on Dallas's defense. He fixed nothing. He just added window dressing with some improved sack numbers. Sack numbers that improved moreso bc Ware improved as a player than bc of a scheme change.

More importantly, Dallas's run defense was always lights out. This year its average. I think that should be your biggest concern.

I'm all for Garrett the head coach but, it has become evident that he is clueless at calling plays. He never establishes a proper rythm in the passing or the running game. He'll go from extreme to the next and force one or the other. If we had, I dont know, a Cam Cameron or just about any veteran offensive coord. out there. You would see an offense that is so much better than what we all are seeing now. Garrett doesnt know how to call balanced games, he doesnt work to his player's strengths, he doesnt know how to get everyone involved, he's not the greatest at drawing up the big play when it counts. This tends to happen with young coords. he's really not all that experienced and it hurts us. Any offensive coord. in the league probably drools at the sight of the Cowboys offensive talent and I def. think a great deal of the coords. out there would do a better job than Garrett. I want a veteran calling our plays.

[M.O.T.H.]

Well not sure about all that Moth, Julius apparently went off on Mike Holmgren because he isn't happy.

Who knows, maybe holmgren turned him into a robot?

I still think Julius was the problem. Barber is avg. 4.2 YPC and Felix 8.7 or something like that. It has more to do with momentum. When the team is clicking the offense is flowing and everyone is charged up, we can run block with the best of them.

Lately we've been playing at a slower tempo and it seems like the O-line loses their edge when everything doesn't go smooth. Pathetic, yet true.

I havent heard anything about him not being happy but, I was saying that he is playing great football. Angry or not, he is in a better situation. Our offensive line is doing the exact same thing this year and that is not letting our backs get a chance. Marion has been hit right at the line a lot this year and that was the argument I was trying to make last year w/ Julius carrying the football...it's the same case. With better blocking or maybe I'll say, more consistant. Julius has returned to form so to speak. Our run blocking is just not that impressive...we're big but, we're not built to run, it's not our line's strength.

As for our YPC, Marion was averaging about 3 yards per carry in the previous three weeks leading up to the Rams game and was only sitting at 4 entering the game. He's had a lot of bad peformances and a great deal of that is on the line's sporadic performances. As for Felix...I dont know exactly what is going on there. He is making a lot of guys miss but, his holes have been there for the most part...could be the plays themselves or the changing of backs, I'm not exactly sure but, Felix's holes have been there for the most part...so, I'm not complaining there.

[cowboyz]

It's tough for Barber to impose his will on the opposing team when he gets hit at or behind the line on almost every play.

Yes, this even happened against the Rams.

If the O-line doesn't man up in general, it won't matter what style of offense we are rolling with. Run or pass, we will fail.

exactly. it doesn't matter what garrett is calling. on most of the plays proctor is screwing something up. and now flozell it seems has no strength in his arm and is getting beat.

it's incredibly disappointing to think proctor is the best guy to fill that spot. they should've kept fabini if those other guys were that bad.

defensively. i'd try carpenter at olb in place of greg ellis. ellis can't defend the run or pass, and he can't even beat fb and tes on his pass rush. plus, it's forcing ware into coverage more often.

oh, and never ever have henry/bradie/ellis/roy, non-hamlin safety on the same side again. rams said they saw something on tape that avery scored his td on. there was absolutely nothing special about what they did. other than all 4 are slow and can't cover a lick.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bdc0f5

overall i don't see how they can improve without newman/pac, spencer, and watkins getting on the field. just gotta hope ratliff/ware have a great day like they did against arizona. both didn't have really good days against the rams. ratliff seemed to run himself out of the play, ware got controlled on run plays.

[LonghornsLegend]

It's a complete fallacy that he has no vision...that was just an excuse people came up w/ while he was here...but, in reality he was continually getting tackled right at the line. Again, he has been playing great football in Seattle and his vision looks absolutely fine. That was never the problem...our line just isnt all that great at run blocking and that makes Marion the better fit, given his style and his ability to move laterally and creat his own space. Julius really isnt a bad back at all...just a bad fit here really. Also, he's the type of back that needs time to feel out a defense...just like his brother, they're featured backs that need 20+ carries to really be effective. Neither is the same when used in a dual type backfield.

Also, the fumbles cant all be forgiven...He has three in the last three games and he is losing them in one on one tackling situations, it's not like he's carrying 5 guys on his back when he loses it.

Sorry but I really don't think JJ had any type of vision, he made some great plays when he got up to speed and had a hole, but tell me you don't remember countless plays of him running right up Gurode or Davis' back because he ran full speed immediately? Barber has been making some longer plays this year which is what I wanted to see, he doesn't have that long speed so it's all the more fun to watch when it happens.


As far as Brian Stewart, anyone know what his actual job is now? He doesn't call plays anymore, Wade is pretty much the DC now, so what's Stewart do besides have a title next to his name and run the meetings.

[Burns336]

Sorry but I really don't think JJ had any type of vision, he made some great plays when he got up to speed and had a hole, but tell me you don't remember countless plays of him running right up Gurode or Davis' back because he ran full speed immediately? Barber has been making some longer plays this year which is what I wanted to see, he doesn't have that long speed so it's all the more fun to watch when it happens.


As far as Brian Stewart, anyone know what his actual job is now? He doesn't call plays anymore, Wade is pretty much the DC now, so what's Stewart do besides have a title next to his name and run the meetings.

Sit on the bench and look like a dejected player like he did in the rams game. So pathetic. He was actually sitting on the bench like a *****.

[cowboyz]

as for Wade taking over for the defense, I see not much of a difference. its always been a Wade Phillips defense. thats what Wade does. his pass coverages have always been terrible. ask any chargers fan.


And for all the love he gets for "turning the defense around", i don't get it. not at any single time in his tenior has Wade Phillip's defense been ranked higher than Parcells. It was ranked 9th last year (BP's defense was #2 in the league before Ellis went out for the year), and this year middle of the pack. He was supposed to fix the pass D, yet it was still not too difficult to throw on Dallas's defense. He fixed nothing. He just added window dressing with some improved sack numbers. Sack numbers that improved moreso bc Ware improved as a player than bc of a scheme change.

More importantly, Dallas's run defense was always lights out. This year its average. I think that should be your biggest concern.

oh please, save the parcells lovefest. this team is better than anything parcells ever fielded here.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/2006.htm
the teams that that 06 faced when ellis was healthy included the texans and the titans with vince young starting his first game. a pathetic redskins team led by mark brunell

they started giving up huge points because anthony henry got hurt. and teams torched the james/roy combo. team only won because romo played great.

http://www.blueandsilverreport.com/2008/05/11/

not sure where you get his defense hasn't been better than parcell's ever here. unless you're using parcell's first defensive team when he got here and had a #1 ranked defense.

philips managed to do better despite losing ferguson in the first game, not having ellis at the beginning of the year, and having reeves at cb.

ware did better because philips didn't have a stubborn refusal to not use the nickel despite teams going to a 3 wr set.

the run defense has clearly suffered with wade, but that's not due to his coaching/scheme. it's not having jason ferguson at NT. got hurt last year, then this year they released him instead of tank, really stupid move. he seemed to do perfectly fine having jamal williams in san diego

i don't expect parcells to have a better defense than philips just because he had to rebuild the disaster, but don't claim that philips didn't have a better defense than parcells did.

i don't know where the stat is, but i'm pretty sure the cowboys gave up fewer big plays last year than ever before. he solved the james/roy problem.

[Modano]

I've always been a Kosier "hater" but watching the offensive line without him is making me eat my words. Their best game came against the Packers, the only game Kosier played. Without Kosier they're not the same, especially in the running game, because Kosier is very good at pulling and reaching the second level. Procter is a BIG liability. He misses a lot of blocks and he doesn't generate any push. Kosier gets push back while pass-protecting every now and then but he's waaaay better than Procter, and we're really missing him.

It's a shame Spencer got hurt. I'm sure that if he was healthy he would be the starter right now.

[shane_man]

I think we are obviously missing Sparano. But that's just me...

[johnstonolb]

I think we are obviously missing Sparano. But that's just me...

He should have been the HC but alas he was/is a BP guy so that automatically disqualified him for HC as well as the OC job.

Fact is, he was demoted after Parcells left -- in spite of the fact he ran the 4th best Offense in 2006 with a ******** Bledsoe and rookie Romo.

Imagine what he could have done with David Lee had Jones had more foresight instead of ego? With the on field talent AND SOME MATURITY FROM ROMO, we could have been as good as the Pats.

Instead Lee flees to AK for one year, then rejoins Sparano as QB coach in Miami. Haley is running the Cardinals O and we are left with boy "not so" genius Garrett and Sherm Edwards polishing TO's johnson.

Jason is talented and bright but was pulled up way too fast by an owner who is more interested in getting credit for being a football guy then being simply a great Owner (which he is).

[leroyisgod]

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...I bet you Giants fans were saying pretty much the same things as we are right now last year. Other than than the QB injury, their team was playing fairly the same way we are right now. Let's face it, the teams that are the hottest in the second half of the season tend to win it all.

With all the parity in the league, we can easily right this ship and have a good season.

[johnstonolb]

With all the parity in the league, we can easily right this ship and have a good season.

Sure can. Possible.

[LonghornsLegend]

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...I bet you Giants fans were saying pretty much the same things as we are right now last year. Other than than the QB injury, their team was playing fairly the same way we are right now. Let's face it, the teams that are the hottest in the second half of the season tend to win it all.

With all the parity in the league, we can easily right this ship and have a good season.

That's all that matters anyway, I would love to see us make the playoffs as a wildcard team and were finally playing our best ball going into the playoffs smoking hot, I'll even take being on the road every game...If the last wild card spot in the NFC has 7 losses I think we will be fine, certainly we need to right the ship but even if we lose these next 2 we can still make a run when Tony is back.

It would really help if we could just win one game with Brad though so pressure isn't on the team to win every game the 2nd half of the season.

[Burns336]

The difference between this team and the Giants is that they had a hard nosed coached who challenged them. They had leaders like Strahan who called guys out in a constructive way. The weren't full of themselves. The didn't feel entitled to anything.

We have a coach who IS STILL blowing sunshine up peoples asses, a D-coordinator who has been demoted yet pulled a page out of Wades book and said "We're still ranked 11 in defense" as if that means anything. We have no leader to step up and challenge people other than T.O. and some players on this team still act like they're entitled to victories because the personality of this fat coach rubs off on them.

I'm sorry guys, but the only way this gets turned around is if some of the players take a leadership role like they have failed to do over the past 2 years and right the ship themselves.

Wade is holding us back, not as much with his defense as he is with his personality.

So until we have "players only meetings" and guys like D-ware, Witten, Tony, Barber rallying the troop on their own, we aren't doing a damn thing.

Edit: Is it pathetic that I feel the cowboys need to hire a "team motivator" to come in with bulletin board material and intense pre game speeches to get this team at the intensity level it needs to be?

[D-Unit]

Amazing what worry can do to a bunch of potato couches.

Chill out guys. Our season isn't over yet despite what you think.

[RCAChainGang]

The difference between this team and the Giants is that they had a hard nosed coached who challenged them. They had leaders like Strahan who called guys out in a constructive way. The weren't full of themselves. The didn't feel entitled to anything.

We have a coach who IS STILL blowing sunshine up peoples asses, a D-coordinator who has been demoted yet pulled a page out of Wades book and said "We're still ranked 11 in defense" as if that means anything. We have no leader to step up and challenge people other than T.O. and some players on this team still act like they're entitled to victories because the personality of this fat coach rubs off on them.

I'm sorry guys, but the only way this gets turned around is if some of the players take a leadership role like they have failed to do over the past 2 years and right the ship themselves.

Wade is holding us back, not as much with his defense as he is with his personality.

So until we have "players only meetings" and guys like D-ware, Witten, Tony, Barber rallying the troop on their own, we aren't doing a damn thing.

Edit: Is it pathetic that I feel the cowboys need to hire a "team motivator" to come in with bulletin board material and intense pre game speeches to get this team at the intensity level it needs to be?

I think that is exactly what the Cowboys need man.

Nail on the head.

[leroyisgod]

Amazing what worry can do to a bunch of potato couches.

Chill out guys. Our season isn't over yet despite what you think.

Ya, my thoughts exactly. For all the negatives, we have a lot of talent and the right players and coaches that I feel can pull themselves out of it. Everyone wants to take shots at not having any leaders on the field, but I don't see it that way. We have the leadership, but just haven't made the plays the last few weeks. I see that turning around this week.

[Burns336]

I don't get that though.

Who cares how much talent we have.

The Yankees always have more talent than anyone. They didn't even make playoffs.

We're well on our way to being a non-playoff team.

I'd rather have less talent and more team than this crap we have right now.

This ship has a lot of holes in it and we're taking on water fast. Do you really think a team who couldn't beat the rams or cardinals is going to rebound from 4-5 after we get out asses kicked the next 2 games to make the playoffs?

This weak minded team? no way.

[Modano]

Amazing what worry can do to a bunch of potato couches.

Chill out guys. Our season isn't over yet despite what you think.

I don't know why, but it seems that not only the Cowboys fanbase but the entire Dallas fanbase can't live without being worried or complaning or pushing the panic button as soon as possible.
I don't know about Mavericks fans but Stars fans freak out every week, calling for everyone's head.
For example, the Stars just started the season 2-3-1. It's an 82 games season, you haven't even played 10 games, so well you can afford to lose some of them, especially this early in the season. Well, they're calling for coaches and players heads.
Last year they were calling for Marty Turco head but then he led the team to the WC championship.

Maybe it's me, but I'm not able to panic about sports. Yes, if the Cowboys lose i'm a bit depressed on monday morning, but well, it's sport, it's just entertainment. I love to support my team but i'm not gonna freak out if they can't win the super bowl or the stanley cup. I'm a laid-back type of fan, I guess.
Burns, you're a great poster, I think you have always some good points. But you need a heavy dose of Bob Marley :P

[Burns336]

I don't know why, but it seems that not only the Cowboys fanbase but the entire Dallas fanbase can't live without being worried or complaning or pushing the panic button as soon as possible.
I don't know about Mavericks fans but Stars fans freak out every week, calling for everyone's head.
For example, the Stars just started the season 2-3-1. It's an 82 games season, you haven't even played 10 games, so well you can afford to lose some of them, especially this early in the season. Well, they're calling for coaches and players heads.
Last year they were calling for Marty Turco head but then he led the team to the WC championship.

Maybe it's me, but I'm not able to panic about sports. Yes, if the Cowboys lose i'm a bit depressed on monday morning, but well, it's sport, it's just entertainment. I love to support my team but i'm not gonna freak out if they can't win the super bowl or the stanley cup. I'm a laid-back type of fan, I guess.
Burns, you're a great poster, I think you have always some good points. But you need a heavy dose of Bob Marley :P


No I agree Madano. I def go into freak out mode. With the Magic or Dodgers or Penguins I don't care as much (in that order) when we lose. I mean the Magic kinda piss me off but not nearly as much as the cowboys.

When the Cowboys lose I'm mad for like 3 days, then I start to get over it and get ready for the next week. When I don't see improvement in team effort in back to back weekends though I start to get real pissed.

The way I see it, I only get football for 1 day a week for like 3.5 months out of the year. I go balls out for those 3.5 months. My girlfriend thinks I'm crazy, but I mean **** it, I like the passion.

Plus this Post season drought is killing me. Plus this is the first year since like 96 that I've thought we were destined to be champs.

[Macarthur]

I'm going to go against the grain a bit and argue against this run first to set up the pass.

Some teams do it and do it well. However, I would argue that, contrary to popular football etiqute, it is not written in stone that you have to run to set up the pass.

I would argue that early last year when Dallas was putting up big numbers offensively, they started the game going for the jugular. They were wearing out the DL rushing the passer, then pounding them with Barber in the 2nd half. I think things changed for us when Garrett started forcing the running game early in games.

Our running game couldn't have been better against the Giants in the playoff game - what did that get us?

It is an old axiom that you have to run to set up the pass. I disagree that is HAS to be that way. I challenge each of you to remember back to last year and remember how this team used to wing it around in the first half; it's the same formula the 90s Cowboys used. Emmitt got most of his yardage in the 4th quarter.

I haven't looked up the numbers but I would bet anything that when our offense started bogging down late last year, it can be attributed to us not being aggressive in the passing game early.

Granted, I don't think we can accomplish this with Brad, but I would really like to see us come out aggressive when Romo is back in Washington.

[LonghornsLegend]

I don't know why, but it seems that not only the Cowboys fanbase but the entire Dallas fanbase can't live without being worried or complaning or pushing the panic button as soon as possible.
I don't know about Mavericks fans but Stars fans freak out every week, calling for everyone's head.
For example, the Stars just started the season 2-3-1. It's an 82 games season, you haven't even played 10 games, so well you can afford to lose some of them, especially this early in the season. Well, they're calling for coaches and players heads.
Last year they were calling for Marty Turco head but then he led the team to the WC championship.

Maybe it's me, but I'm not able to panic about sports. Yes, if the Cowboys lose i'm a bit depressed on monday morning, but well, it's sport, it's just entertainment. I love to support my team but i'm not gonna freak out if they can't win the super bowl or the stanley cup. I'm a laid-back type of fan, I guess.
Burns, you're a great poster, I think you have always some good points. But you need a heavy dose of Bob Marley :P


I don't know if my post came off that way, but I'm not ready to panic yet, but there is cause for concern and if no one here acknowledges that things need to be changed and corrected SOON then they are lost in what's going on...This season is far from over, so don't consider it a bandwagon type thing or a fair weather fan, I just want to see some discipline from our team and as a fan that's not too much to ask.


Can we just have a game with fewer then 3 penalties? When is the last time that's happened? I don't have any major gripes with this team other then that, and sorry but that leads directly to coaching, we have been racking up HUGE amounts of penalties since the end of last year and it hasn't been corrected, good football teams don't commit stupid penalties I do know that, and until we can win a game without shooting outselves in the foot it will be a long, uphill battle against ourselves, not anyone else.

[dunagan15]

Please beat Tampa this week