Dallas Cowboys Discussion

[D-Unit]

Colombo may stay.... saying he'll take less. For me it's not the money... it's the clear decline in play.

How much did Kosier get?

[M.O.T.H.]

Colombo may stay.... saying he'll take less. For me it's not the money... it's the clear decline in play.

How much did Kosier get?

3 years ; $9 million. Chump change.

I think Colombo may be gone for good, now. They said they were trying to work out a restucture, but the two sides were pretty far apart.

[D-Unit]

3 years ; $9 million. Chump change.

I think Colombo may be gone for good, now. They said they were trying to work out a restucture, but the two sides were pretty far apart.
Now THAT is a nice deal. So far Jerry is pulling all the right strings.

Nnamdi is apparently not in their sights. Gives me even more reason to think Cullen Jenkins will be a Cowboy.

I'm pretty hopeful of Rob Ryan developing our young corners anyways. Just overall too... I think Rob is gonna be awesome here.

[M.O.T.H.]

I hope so...I'm excited to see how our guys react to him.

I just hope we dont opt to sign say Kenyon Coleman instead of Bowen. I like Kenyon a lot, but Bowen has a lot of potential still. I wouldnt mind signing Robaire Smith as a back up.

[D-Unit]

I hope so...I'm excited to see how our guys react to him.

I just hope we dont opt to sign say Kenyon Coleman instead of Bowen. I like Kenyon a lot, but Bowen has a lot of potential still. I wouldnt mind signing Robaire Smith as a back up.
Kenyon Coleman...

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/adamosgp/Forum%20Reactions/tumblr_llbkxjIgol1qbc7eq.gif

[M.O.T.H.]

The latest I've heard...

We're still in on Jenkins. But it sounds like he's real close with Washington.

And the Bears have "interest" in Bowen, but the article states that it sounds like it's a ploy by Bowen's agent to get a larger deal out of Dallas.

The fact that we even are looking at other DEs scares me. I hope Bowen doesnt price himself out of our range.

[M.O.T.H.]

Bowen signed some monster contract with Washington. PISSED!

5 years ; $27.5 million. Jesus.

We need Cullen Jenkins now. This ******* blows.

edit...I'm heart broken. But on a good note. Tyron Smith signed. Four Years ; $12.5 Million.

[TheFinisher]

I'm pissed, but you can't really blame Bowen for taking that deal. That's a lot of cash for him.

It sucks because Rob was hyping Bowen up all offseason, I really was excited to see what he could do with him and that potential. ****.

[E-Man]

Son of a *****! Damn Washington and their offering people high deals. I liked Bowen to stick around and shine here, but I guess he'll get wasted in Washington somehow like they always do with their free agents. I really really hope they get Jenkins now.

[Macarthur]

Is Franklin from SF still out there? I say grab a NT to rotate with Brent and move Rat out.

[TheFinisher]

Supposedly we're in the hunt for Roman Harper. Not sure how I feel about that, all I remember is that he got abused in that wild card game in Seattle.

[M.O.T.H.]

I wanted Harper back in the day. He's a solid safety...none of the guys left are stars, but there are good football players out there. He did make it to the pro bowl twice. Even though, many would tell you he didnt deserve to. He's still an upgrade over Sensy. All these guys have their weaknesses, though...Harper and Sensy's coverage skills can be exploited deep. Same with Elam. It's the life of a safety.

Tyron Smith just stepped on the field. yay.

[E-Man]

Harper is a much better option than Alan Ball. I'm not so high on him, but he's a decent option. Sensy wasn't so bad. He just wasn't really much more than above average. Harper gives you the same pretty much. Elam the same. I want some veteran presence because we don't know how good AOA is yet. It can't just be AOA and Church or McCray back there. That's just asking to get roasted every game.

[M.O.T.H.]

Yeah they're all pretty much above average type safeties.

As for our guys...nothing but a pool of mystery. Church is absolutely horrible in coverage, though. AOA is the only one that actually can play FS, and possesses coverage potential.

The good thing about Sensy, Elam, and Harper at least...is that you could realistically play them at either safety position. Even though, we'd all love to have a rangy center fielder, we'll probably be looking at two similar starting safeties. Potentially two of those listed.

edit...we just inked Arkin, Capas, and Thomas. So I think that just leaves Carter, Murray, and Harris.

[D-Unit]

Cool updates guys. Not tracking the wire like I normally do.

Nice deal for Bowen. Washington is still overpaying even after the new CBA. lol. Bowen was a backup for us. He didn't prove that he was worth that kind of money. Would've been nice to have him back on a cheap deal, but he hit the damn jackpot! I would've been royally pissed if we gave him that deal.

Moving on without a worry. The Giants thought they were getting a good player when they paid Canty. At least Canty proved more. Money doesn't make the player good.

[TheFinisher]

Looks like Nawleans is our competitor today, we've both been linked to having interest in Brandon Mebane.

Isn't he more of a NT? hmmm...

[M.O.T.H.]

Mebane re-signed with Seattle.

I didnt hear anything about us having interest in him.

Cowboys, Saints, and Broncos all have made contact with Cullen Jenkins, however.

[D-Unit]

Mebane re-signed with Seattle.

I didnt hear anything about us having interest in him.

Cowboys, Saints, and Broncos all have made contact with Cullen Jenkins, however.
Jenkins is gonna land a mother load contract. Get ready folks.

[TheFinisher]

http://mobile.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/7/28/2301057/dallas-cowboys-free-agents-in-the-hunt-for-brandon-mebane-cullen-jenkins

Could be a false report, but that's what it says here.

[M.O.T.H.]

hmmm....someone posted that he re-signed in the other thread, but I dont see it anywhere on Rotoworld. My bad.

Broncos and Saints have been after Mebane as well. All the same teams after Jenkins.

Also, we just signed Harris. Just Murray and Carter left now.

[D-Unit]

hmmm....someone posted that he re-signed in the other thread, but I dont see it anywhere on Rotoworld. My bad.

Broncos and Saints have been after Mebane as well. All the same teams after Jenkins.

Also, we just signed Harris. Just Murray and Carter left now.
Man it's been so long.... Who the hell is Harris? lol.

As for Mebane, if we can't get Jenkins, then I'd be for him above Kenyon and Robaire.

[M.O.T.H.]

lol. Dwayne Harris our WR from ECU.

We havent signed any outside help yet.

Mebane's a beast. It remains to be seen what he could do at the 5 Tech. But he's a powerful impactful dude. He'd be very costly as well. But it'd be worth it.

[leroyisgod]

Disappointing about Bowen. Jenkins scares me with the medical issues. Not many options left. We should resign Hatcher and Spears for depth. Should be cheap. I'd like to see a move for a guard soon. Dahl Dahl Dahl

[Macarthur]

As for DL, I'm not seeing much about A. Franklin. If we could land him, he could rotate with Brent. We could then move Rat out to DE and sign someone like Hatch or Spears for depth. I actually like that plan better than big money for Jenkins.

[M.O.T.H.]

Ratliff is 100% staying at NT. He aint moving. Ryan loves him there. This is always brought up, but it isnt going to happen.

I actually like Mebane as the best option for us...granted he's never played 34 End. But he's younger, an exceptional impactful run stuffer. And a player who really improved his pass rush ability this passed year. He didnt get many sacks that I recall, but he's extremely disruptive. The tidbit in that article the Finisher posted, noted that he finished 6th in QB pressures among DTs a year ago.

[pocketaces]

No surprise but Colombo was just cut

[D-Unit]

No surprise but Colombo was just cut
That's a cause for celebration in itself.

[pocketaces]

Sounds like Tyron is getting abused today

[pocketaces]

AOA limps off...Sigh:(

[M.O.T.H.]

Sounds like Tyron is getting abused today

I really wouldnt worry about that at this point.

Where are you getting these updates from?

[TheFinisher]

AOA limps off...Sigh:(

No way... ugh, he just can't stay on the field. Not a good sign.

[pocketaces]

I really wouldnt worry about that at this point.

Where are you getting these updates from?

ESPN Dallas practice blog just ended

[M.O.T.H.]

ESPN Dallas practice blog just ended

Thank you sir.

[LonghornsLegend]

We haven't look this bad on paper in a long time, if I'm just being realistic. This isn't anywhere near a SB team which is sad with Romo at his age. I challenge anyone here to find 3-4 team who has a worse pair of starting safeties and DE's. Even leaving out the LB's there, but beside Ware we have an uninspiring Spencer, and a starting Keith Brooking who was bad last year.


Then on offense, I'm looking at the problems of the interior of the line were no doubt going to have, without a legit short yardage RB for the first time since before we got Barber. I think Choice can/should be that, but I don't think Garrett does so we'll just keep banging Felix and Murray into the lineman time after time.


I'm not trying to be doom and gloom, yes I am pissed about losing Bowen and will for a long time probably, but if your being honest with yourself I don't think were close to alot of the top tier teams right now. Cullen Jenkins would be a big help, but if we were going to do that Bowen made more sense without the injury concerns.

[M.O.T.H.]

I'm not worried about our offense...we're obviously going to get a RG. And we trimmed the fat. Davis/Colombo were the biggest problems along our line. It wont take much for Smith to be an upgrade at RT. And hell, Holland's play would probably be an upgrade over the season Davis just had. But we'll surely find a new RG. Miles/Dez/Witten are going to be dynamic. And with a fixed o-line, there is no reason why Felix shouldnt break out. And Felix certainly has the body to will his way for the extra yard inside these days. Murray has been bulking up as well. Choice could probably do it as well. You dont need a power back. All three of our RBs are balanced enough to be the every down type. I would hope they could pick up an extra yard if the need was there. Again, not worried about the O. They're going to be good, and their going to score a lot of points.

Defense is another story all together. It's a **** storm. We currently are fielding a team with three safeties with NFL experience. (All second year players) and two DEs in Olshansky and Lassimore. lol.

In hindsight, we probably should have tackled these needs better. Not drafting a S was pretty moronic. It's always a need with this team. I'd kill for Rahim Moore now. But anyway....some of the things you said, you should wait a little bit on. Honestly, we have no idea who we're going to have at the S positions or DE yet. The market has slowed down for both of these positions. There are still good players to be had out there. And a schematic change and a fired up coordinator could do wonders for Spencer. He's been too mild mannered/layed back in Dallas. He was an animal at Purdue. He's lossed that, but maybe he can get it back. If not, Brandon Williams and Vic Butler are ready to step up. With Ryan, he'll play the best players and they're all going to be in the LB rotation. Brooking sucks, I agree.

Luckily for us, our schedule isnt too daunting this year. But that doesn't assure us anything. I just suggest all fans kilter their expectations and the positives that come from the season, will be all the more rewarding. Dallas always seems to play better in an under dog role, anyway.

I'm actually really excited to see our offense get to work.

[leroyisgod]

I dont want to be premature, but our defense as is is worse than last year. We need to make some moves NOW. Our DE's and Safeties are a joke.

[M.O.T.H.]

lol. Obviously...but we're not going into the season as is. We dont even have a starting DE opposite Olshansky on the roster. And none of the three safeties we have are going to start, more than likely.

It will be okay. We're going to sign players. They may not be the players we all want, but it will be better than our current situation. If you guys havent noticed, news for the S/DE positions have been dead silent for everyone today. As has been reported, the market has died down for the positions, which is a good thing. It could lead to cheaper contracts. But it could also take a little longer for these players to start to sign...which is nerve-racking.

But rest assured, we're not going into the season with what we have now. We dont even have the minimum number of DEs or S on the team currently. haha.

And now after I try to cheer you guys up...I have a tidbit of bad news. Demarco Murray showed up to camp with a hamstring injuries. And the unsigned rookie will miss at least two weeks already.

[leroyisgod]

What other rb's are in camp?

[JBCX]

I didn't really get to watch too many Cowboys games last year.

Question: is Stephen Bowen really as good as that contract that the Skins gave him says he is?

[M.O.T.H.]

Not yet...but he certainly could be. I mean, that was too rich for our blood, at least.

He has tons of potential, though. I would rank his bull rush among the league's best right now. He's a powerful attacking 34 DE. And we wanted him back to start this year. I expect him to do very well in Washington...sadly.

[M.O.T.H.]

What other rb's are in camp?

Murray wasnt even in camp yet. Which is sad.

Felix Jones
Tashard Choice
Lonyae Miller?
Phillip Tanner

Maybe more.

[TheFinisher]

It's tough to evaluate our team right now because we're not complete, but yea... our defense is looking very thin. I'm certainly happy we re-signed Kosier and Free, even if we don't look to FA for RG help I'm ok with Costa/Holland battling it out. I agree with Moth that those guys can't be much worse, if at all worse, than Davis was last year. I was a little concerned after we cut Roy that we might have to go out and sign a bargain vet, but the more I thought about it I think we'll be in 2 and maybe even 3 TE sets the majority of the game. I know we're all excited about Dez and what he can do this season now that Roy is out of the way, but I think we're going to see a break out season for Marty B. The guy has a ton of talent as a pass catcher and now that Roy's gone I have a feeling he's going to see around double the amount of targets as he did the past couple of years. Basically, I feel like we just swapped Marty for Roy as a "starter". Garrett loves that 1 back 2 TE personnel, it's really a great formation for our team. I'm excited for what this offense can do this year, I really think Romo puts up career highs.

And he's going to have to, because unless Rob Ryan can work a miracle our defense isn't going to win us any games.

[leroyisgod]

I have 0 concerns on offense. Defense, ehhhhhhhhhh

[M.O.T.H.]

We'll probably be more balanced...well, we better be. But I doubt we'll see a major incline in double TE sets. All we did was lose Roy, that shouldnt really effect our passing game schematically. Ogletree or Hurd (if he's back) can certainly fill in on those 3 WR sets. I like the idea of Bryant and Hurd on the outside with Miles in the slot, myself in those formations. But no, I still expect us to use a lot of 3 WR sets...especially with the hiring of our new WR coach from GB, Jimmy Robinson. He's coming from a system where they would use many 4/5 WR spread formations. That could certainly work in Dallas, with the multiple weapons we possess. Witten/Bennett/Felix/Murray could all be included in such formations in addition to our WRs. I would hope he would bring some of that stuff over with him. It's something I've been wanting to see us use for a while. Take a page out the playbooks of teams like Green Bay, San Diego, and New England.

[M.O.T.H.]

Cowboys second-round pick Bruce Carter is expected to open the season on the NFI (non-football injury) list.


Carter tore his left ACL late last season at North Carolina, and the Cowboys aren't going to rush back the 40th overall pick in the draft. His likely placement on NFI -- which is essentially another form of PUP -- will cost Carter the first six games of the regular season. It also should make Keith Brooking feel safer.




Source: ESPN Dallas (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4680933/cowboys-bruce-carter-agree-to-deal?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

[LonghornsLegend]

Is Brian Waters a realistic option for us? I don't think he'd cost much, and would be a nice 1 year bridge. He was alot better then Kosier last year honestly, and would come at a cheaper price.

[D-Unit]

What worries me is that Garrett doesn't seem to place a big importance on Defense. He loaded up on Offense in the draft and the first thing he did was take care of Offense in FA. Defense is getting the back burner treatment.

Guess the plan is to score 60 points a game.

Garrett will regret it when he can't get his precious offense on the damn field because the defense is getting eaten up, demoralized, tired and frustrated. Ah well.

The stubbornness of this team to properly address NT from Day 1 of transitioning to the 3-4 is still haunting this team. We develop DEs and let'em go all the time. There's just no value being put on the DL. None. But I bet if Bowen was an OL, he'd be here today. Just the way it is around here.

We need defense in the worst way, and the sources we're looking at for help are all up Mediocre Alley.

I also find it bothersome that Washington could find a trade partner for Haynesworth, but we couldn't find a cent for Roy, Barber, Davis and others. Not working smart enough.

[leroyisgod]

Schefter reported this morning that were making a push on Nnamdi. While I'd LOVE to have him on the team, is this necessarily the right move to make right now? Shouldn't it be making a move at S or DE?

[Trogdor]

Schefter reported this morning that were making a push on Nnamdi. While I'd LOVE to have him on the team, is this necessarily the right move to make right now? Shouldn't it be making a move at S or DE?

Yes and no. The Ryans' (chunking Rex in here too) defenses can be immensely boosted by leaving a guy on an island. If you end up signing two guys cheap (Elam/Sensy/Harper etc) and just have them be responsible for keeping the play in front of them and keeping organized you are already giving our rush crew an extra couple of seconds to get to the QB. Ware/Spencer will have no problems getting to the QB with a few extra seconds.

That said. I would rather see our remaining cap thrown at a FS, RG, DE, SS in that order before adding a luxury FA.

[TheFinisher]

Yea but the remaining guys at S and DE are all JAG. Elam, Harper, Robaire Smith, Coleman? I was all about dumping our resources at those positions when FA started, but the top guys I wanted are now off the market. Nnamdi is really the only guy out there who can take our defense to another level.

Plus I've read a ton of reports that says with the moves we've made, and with a few restructured contracts, we could have anywhere from 20-25 million to play with. We can sign Nnamdi and still sign the same cheap options to fill DE and S we were going to anyway.

[leroyisgod]

We cannot forget RG either. Unless the team feels that one of the rookies can fit in there from day 1. Who is running with the 1's at RG in camp so far?

[TheFinisher]

pretty sure it was Holland

LL had mentioned Brian Waters, I'd be all for that. Sure he's old, but he can still play at a high level and would be an ideal vet to plug in next to young Tyron.

[leroyisgod]

Jags are close to signing Landry. I know a lot of you aren't fans, but just another Safety about to be off the list.

[leroyisgod]

pretty sure it was Holland

LL had mentioned Brian Waters, I'd be all for that. Sure he's old, but he can still play at a high level and would be an ideal vet to plug in next to young Tyron.

I'd take Waters as a one year plug. I'd rather see us spend the money on a younger player like Blalock or Dahl though. I know those guys won't come cheap, but those guys would be players that could be our future RG for several years to come.

[leroyisgod]

Steelers cut Flozell today. He should sign a one day contract with us and retire. He had a great career for us at LT. One of our all time best T's.

[M.O.T.H.]

Ugh. I dont like Hurd going to Chicago with Roy there. He'd have a good shot at playing time without Roy, but I dont know why he went there. sigh.

[M.O.T.H.]

Is Brian Waters a realistic option for us? I don't think he'd cost much, and would be a nice 1 year bridge. He was alot better then Kosier last year honestly, and would come at a cheaper price.

He could be an option, but Kosier re-signed and will be starting at LG. Any G we sign will be playing RG.

[M.O.T.H.]

And the fact that we're in on Aso makes it sound like we're incredibly desperate. I would welcome the guy with open arms, but his contract could be a hindrance for our future FA endeavors. Newman would have to be cut for sure.

[D-Unit]

Jets vs Cowboys for Nnamdi. Absolutely Love it.

I'm all in for Nnamdi. It's win now or go home time. Without him, this offseason is a failure.

What's the latest on Cullen?

[M.O.T.H.]

Jets vs Cowboys for Nnamdi. Absolutely Love it.

I'm all in for Nnamdi. It's win now or go home time. Without him, this offseason is a failure.

What's the latest on Cullen?

Nothing yet. I dont see how we can sign Cullen and Aso. Doesnt sound plausible at all.

If we really are in on Aso...we wont be doing anything until he signs with one of us. More waiting. :(

[Go Cowboys]

Spitballing here fellas but here is my question.


If we were to land Namdi why not move Newman to FS? He is pretty good in coverage and one the the best tacklers on the team... Yes he isn't be enough for a ton of run support but what Free Safety plays at the line of scrimmage?

If we did that then we would have one less hole to fill and I think that is what the Front Office may be considering doing.

Any thoughts? I'm sure he'd have to restructure his contract but I think it could work.

[E-Man]

Aso going to the Jets would just be so unfair. I was a little scared of taking on such a big contract like Aso, but now I feel like the Cowboys have to be the heroes of the NFL by keeping Revis and Aso playing on the same team...

Of course if he does sign with the Jets the Cowboys can meet up with the super tandem and beat them in the Super Bowl like the Mavericks did to the Heat. I'd be a break dancing idiot if that happened.

[leroyisgod]

So say we do get Aso, who are the starters? I'd be fine with Newman moving to FS and then him playing slot in nickle and dime packages.

[leroyisgod]

Spitballing here fellas but here is my question.


If we were to land Namdi why not move Newman to FS? He is pretty good in coverage and one the the best tacklers on the team... Yes he isn't be enough for a ton of run support but what Free Safety plays at the line of scrimmage?

If we did that then we would have one less hole to fill and I think that is what the Front Office may be considering doing.

Any thoughts? I'm sure he'd have to restructure his contract but I think it could work.

Moving TNew to FS is a very viable solution. He's a sound tackler and he can be a good ball hawk there. Doing this added years on to Deion and Rod Woodson's careers.

[bigbluedefense]

If you're getting Aso, Newman is getting cut. There's no way in hell you can afford Aso while keeping Newman.

You guys need to make some kind of move. Bc if you don't land Aso or Jenkins, your defense is going to suck something awful this year.

They didn't even make a play for Dawan Landry, which I thought was a mistake. Now unless you get Aso, playing this song and dance with him only hindered your ability to sign guys who would have helped the team like Bowen, Landry, Jenkins etc.

[leroyisgod]

I'm waiting for the article, but someone posted on FB that Aso is signing with the Jets later today.

[leroyisgod]

Would it even be a possibility to look at Cromartie if we don't get Aso or just move ahead with our current cb's?

[bigbluedefense]

I think Cro is very realistic. Obviously Rob knows Cro through Rex, and if they run a similar scheme Cro can be a very solid pickup.

I watched Cro every week. Here's the thing you need to know about him: He's great as a press man CB. In ANY other type of coverage, he's god awful.

And Rob isn't like Rex, Rob runs a lot more zone. So I'm not sure if he fit's the scheme. BUT, if Rob tries to mimic his brother's coverages, then Cro can be useful.

[leroyisgod]

Sam Hurd signed with the Bears

Hatcher is visiting the Broncos

[D-Unit]

I'm going to branch out again on another idea that I think would be great for this team and great for the player... but probably won't be accepted or ever done.

But I MUST get this off my chest!

Mike Jenkins should move to FS. Jenkins has natural instincts to make plays on the ball when he can see it in front of him. When his back is to the QB, it's been relatively hit or miss. His corner skills are sufficient and I think the down year last year is slightly overblown. The entire team sucked for the most part. But I think we would get one of the best Safeties in the game if he moved to Safety. Yes, people will question the one play against the Giants where he didn't want to make a tackle. Again... I say that's overblown. He hasn't had any issues like that since. He played some Safety in college and lit up guys. The ability is there. It's a matter of change in mentality on the position switch.

The reason why I think he's stuck at CB now is because he's our best man there. But if we bring in Aso and Newman restructures. Then I don't think it's in our best interest to move Newman to FS. Rather, I like Jenkins making the move and developing one of our young CBs to eventually take over Newman's job. With Aso and Newman at CB, and Jenkins and Sensy/FA at S, I think our defense improves from night to day.

[leroyisgod]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/five-teams-on-the-trail-of-vonta-leach/related/

Were in the hunt for Leach, REALLY!!!!!!!!!

[leroyisgod]

I'm going to branch out again on another idea that I think would be great for this team and great for the player... but probably won't be accepted or ever done.

But I MUST get this off my chest!

Mike Jenkins should move to FS. Jenkins has natural instincts to make plays on the ball when he can see it in front of him. When his back is to the QB, it's been relatively hit or miss. His corner skills are sufficient and I think the down year last year is slightly overblown. The entire team sucked for the most part. But I think we would get one of the best Safeties in the game if he moved to Safety. Yes, people will question the one play against the Giants where he didn't want to make a tackle. Again... I say that's overblown. He hasn't had any issues like that since. He played some Safety in college and lit up guys. The ability is there. It's a matter of change in mentality on the position switch.

The reason why I think he's stuck at CB now is because he's our best man there. But if we bring in Aso and Newman restructures. Then I don't think it's in our best interest to move Newman to FS. Rather, I like Jenkins making the move and developing one of our young CBs to eventually take over Newman's job. With Aso and Newman at CB, and Jenkins and Sensy/FA at S, I think our defense improves from night to day.

While I think Jenkins would be a good ball hawk, his tackling is terrible. I wouldn't be opposed to this, but I wouldn't be jumping up and down excited about it.

[M.O.T.H.]

Jenkins nor Newman will move to FS realistically. Scandrick would probably be a more realistic option to move, first off. But, I really dont see Newman restructuring and switching positions. He has to be cut to even afford Aso. And that leaves us penny pinching for the rest of the FA period.

As for Cro...I dont see it. Dallas is more than prepared to enter the season with Newman, Jenkins, and Scandrick. We're just potentially making a play for Aso because he's one of the best in the league. No reason to splurge on Cro, if you dont land Aso. And Cro will be very expensive.

As far as corner is concerened, I'd imagine...it's Aso or no one.

edit...I also heard interest in Leach, which is awesome.

[D-Unit]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/five-teams-on-the-trail-of-vonta-leach/related/

Were in the hunt for Leach, REALLY!!!!!!!!!
That's cool. I've admired him from afar.

Here's my top 10 guys left in FA that I like for the Boys. I'll be disappointed as each one is crossed off the list when scooped up by other teams.

1. Nnamdi Asomugha
2. Cullen Jenkins
3. Justin Blalock
4. Harvey Dahl
5. Michael Huff
6. Dawan Landry
7. Shaun Ellis
8. Brandon Mebane
9. Aubrayo Franklin
10. Dashon Goldson

[leroyisgod]

That's cool. I've admired him from afar.

Here's my top 10 guys left in FA that I like for the Boys. I'll be disappointed as each one is crossed off the list when scooped up by other teams.

1. Nnamdi Asomugha
2. Cullen Jenkins
3. Justin Blalock
4. Harvey Dahl
5. Michael Huff
6. Dawan Landry
7. Shaun Ellis
8. Brandon Mebane
9. Aubrayo Franklin
10. Dashon Goldson

I'd take any of them.

Out of curiosity, why is Blalock ahead of Dahl on your list?

[leroyisgod]

Blalock is from Dallas, maybe he wants to come home. Please come home!!!

[M.O.T.H.]

I'd cross off Dahl, Landry, Mebane, and Goldson already. They're all close to signing with other teams, sadly.

It scares me the lack of interest we've shown in G. And Franklin aint coming for sure, imo. Ryan is excited to use Rat at NT.

Once again, I'd be really shocked if Elam doesnt end up in Dallas. It make sooooo much sense. It'd also be nice to have someone that actually knows the defense back there.

What sucks...if we're really in on Aso. We arent going to be doing jack **** with other players, until it's resolved.

[leroyisgod]

Ratliff shed some weight in the off-season. 18 lbs down to 285

Side note, Choice hurt his calf. It's a calf strain and he's day to day. I hate to say it, but were gonna see a lot more of this in camp.

[M.O.T.H.]

Ratliff still remains one of the most powerful players in the league. We all wish he was bigger, but he does a more than effective job in the middle. And Dallas has been linked to DE not NT in FA, he's staying at NT.

I also saw Felix came in an extremely fit 219. That's like one pound less that last year. The guy just naturally filled out. Not worried about his speed or explosiveness. He should be great behind, what should be a stronger liner.

Sucks that Murray and Choice are both banged up already. They're supposed to be battling for that #2 spot, essentially. Every snap matters for those two.

edit...the only way I'd see Ratliff move to end. Is if Dallas continutes to strike out at End, and would be forced to potentially start Josh Brent. I really doubt it, though. Ryan has expressed his excitement over Ratliff at the Nose.

edit 2...It also said Dez gained 8 pounds? Everyone said he lossed like 10ish pounds, I dont know what's correct. Says he up to 225. That's HUGE.

[TheFinisher]

NFLN is reporting that we're Aso's #1 choice. :))))))))

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/359092858.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1311966509&Signature=JExwH9a9RFqxxvcPBbP6eg3UnBU%3D

[leroyisgod]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/359092858.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1311966509&Signature=JExwH9a9RFqxxvcPBbP6eg3UnBU%3D

That would look GREAT!!! Would be my next purchase

[D-Unit]

I'd take any of them.

Out of curiosity, why is Blalock ahead of Dahl on your list?
I know Dahl is nasty, but I think Blalock is more sound overall.

[leroyisgod]

NFLN is reporting that we're Aso's #1 choice. :))))))))

Don't get me excited

[D-Unit]

Gurode's rehab from surgery isn't the greatest news either. lol.

[M.O.T.H.]

This is what just popped up on rotoworld..

According to NFL Network's Mike Lombardi, the Cowboys are expected to set their sights on free agent DE Cullen Jenkins if they lose out in the bidding on Nnamdi Asomugha.


Multiple reports suggest the Cowboys are serious players in the Asomugha race, but our expectation is that he will ultimately sign with the Jets. Simply put, Asomugha wants to play in New York. Dallas already lost Stephen Bowen to a division rival, and Jason Hatcher is on the Broncos' radar. They need defensive end help badly, and Jenkins is a rare play-making "five technique."
Related: Cowboys (http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/clubhouse/nfl/dal/cowboys)

[D-Unit]

Don't get me excited
BOING !

[D-Unit]

This is what just popped up on rotoworld..

According to NFL Network's Mike Lombardi, the Cowboys are expected to set their sights on free agent DE Cullen Jenkins if they lose out in the bidding on Nnamdi Asomugha.


Multiple reports suggest the Cowboys are serious players in the Asomugha race, but our expectation is that he will ultimately sign with the Jets. Simply put, Asomugha wants to play in New York. Dallas already lost Stephen Bowen to a division rival, and Jason Hatcher is on the Broncos' radar. They need defensive end help badly, and Jenkins is a rare play-making "five technique."
Related: Cowboys (http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/clubhouse/nfl/dal/cowboys)
It's more realistic. I really like Jenkins a lot so it would make me VERY happy. Been wanting him for a couple of years now.

[TheFinisher]

I'd be happy with either Cullen or Nnamdi, just get us some damn help on defense!

[leroyisgod]

Dahl to the Rams

[leroyisgod]

Gurode's rehab from surgery isn't the greatest news either. lol.

Ya I saw that. How long will he be out?

[M.O.T.H.]

Pats just cut Ty Warren. Assuming he's not all banged up still, he could certainly be on our radar at DE. Texas boy as well.

[bigmac076]

ProFootballTalk says we are looking at Vonta Leach?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/29/five-teams-on-the-trail-of-vonta-leach/

[D-Unit]

Pats just cut Ty Warren. Assuming he's not all banged up still, he could certainly be on our radar at DE. Texas boy as well.
Ty Warren would be AWESOME. Get both Cullen and Warren Jerry!

Screw Nnamdi already. He's not coming.

Lock up Jenkins, Warren, Blalock, Huff and Leach.

[FreshBoy!]

Warren, Jenkins, Brodney Pool, and Abram would be soooo much better than Nmandi. Don't want Nmandi, he's a luxury.


BUT...with that said, if Jerry pulls the trigger...Nmandi in a Cowboy's uni would be a sight to see!

[leroyisgod]

Warren, Jenkins, Brodney Pool, and Abram would be soooo much better than Nmandi. Don't want Nmandi, he's a luxury.


BUT...with that said, if Jerry pulls the trigger...Nmandi in a Cowboy's uni would be a sight to see!

Just pull the damn trigger on something already. The natives are restless!!!

[thule]

If Aso wanted to sign with the jets why hasn't he? He's already stated it's not about the money it's about winning.

I don't claim to know a lot about the jets...but are they in the same situation as us? If it's not about the money he must be weighing something...

Jenkins worries me...he just came off of his FA season and won a super bowl...money could be the motivation here...that always scares me.

The scary thing about Aso is that he is already 30 years old. Inc him to a 4-5 year deal and he has already has a contract for longer than he'll be able to play corner in the nfl.

Aso > Newman is a no brainer.

But what about

Jenkins > Lisemore....

[FreshBoy!]

Cowboys resigned Spears.
Marcus Spears to five-year, $19.2 million deal. Story to come ...

[thule]

Can't hate on the spears signing. We have nothing and he is what's left if you aren't going to land Jenkins...Don't get me wrong I'm not a spears fan by any means...but he is probably an average NFL player and I don't think we could have done better outside of Jenkins...I love Mebane but doesn't look like he's coming here.

[M.O.T.H.]

Wow. Never would have expected that. I'd certainly argue that he wasnt even in the plans until we lossed Bowen. Pretty obvious, actually.

[leroyisgod]

I'm okay with Spears. Like we've been saying, a new coordinator sometimes is the key for some players.

[D-Unit]

I HATE SPEARS, AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

$4M a year??? OMGooshness. FAIL.

[thule]

Interesting note from btb
Oline: We did not have a lot of starters on the line so it was manned by a lot of young guys. They did show some skill. Holland came to camp out of shape and not prepared. He started bad and just plain got worse through practice. Knowing Garrett, he will not be on the roster when the season starts, the young guys looked so much better than he did. I personally think the Boys will pick up Dahl on a 2 year contract, but we may see some of the young guys spelling Dahl, Gurode and Kosier during the season and developing. One guy to watch is Letuli(?): kid has a mean and nasty streak to him. With him, Young, Arkin, Nagy and Costa we can see the future of the interior line.

[thule]

I HATE SPEARS, AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

$4M a year??? OMGooshness. FAIL.

We paid 3M a year for a starting OG who has missed multiple games in 2 of the past 3 years...and you praise jerry for this....then you say fail for paying a starting DE 4m.

Spears isn't Jenkins but look at it like this. We just saved 9 Million dollars over the life of the deal by choosing Spears over Bowen. I highly doubt Bowen is worth 2m more a year than spears...

[D-Unit]

Interesting note from btb
Laupepa won't take **** from you. He's got a lot of heart and natural strength, but I never considered him an NFL level player.

I'm pulling for you braddah!

http://www.fanaticalfootballfiend.com/uploads/5/6/9/8/5698103/131546092.jpg

[thule]

Holland shows up out of shape every offseason...that isn't being a professional...and excuse me Mr. Garrett but what is it you said about the "right kind of guys".

I hope we land Dahl.

[D-Unit]

Holland shows up out of shape every offseason...that isn't being a professional...and excuse me Mr. Garrett but what is it you said about the "right kind of guys".

I hope we land Dahl.
I thought Dahl already signed with the Rams.

[D-Unit]

I'm so disgusted with the spears signing. Wasn't even cheap. 4 more years of that crap. Not even Rob Ryan can fix him. Garrett is really clueless about fixing the D. That much is apparent.

[TheFinisher]

I'm so disgusted with the spears signing. Wasn't even cheap. 4 more years of that crap. Not even Rob Ryan can fix him. Garrett is really clueless about fixing the D. That much is apparent.

Big time disappointment on Spears, the guy has been a bust and only remained a starter under Wade because of his draft status. He needed to GTFO. Not to mention that most likely takes us out of the Cullen Jenkins hunt, ugh another year of Spears and the big Russian at DE. yuck.

[bigbluedefense]

If you guys don't land Jenkins or Nmandi, your defense is going to suck something awful this year.

Even with Jenkins it still might be mediocre. That secondary is just not very good. You better hope Jenkins gets his head out of his ass and rekindles some of his sophomore magic. Or else you guys are screwed without Nmandi.

[pocketaces]

Jerry just handed his phone to Rob on the sidelines. Could it be???

[E-Man]

Spears isn't exciting at all, but it eases my mind at least to have him over Lissemore starting. I really like Lissemore's athleticism and potential, but Spears at least has started and played average before. Don't get me wrong, I really wanted to upgrade him, but it's better than nothing. I would really want for them to sign Warren. Up there in years but can definitely be a stable choice in a rotation.

Someone mentioned Brodney Pool as well. I keep forgetting that he's out there. Personally I would want him over Elam.

[D-Unit]

Big time disappointment on Spears, the guy has been a bust and only remained a starter under Wade because of his draft status. He needed to GTFO. Not to mention that most likely takes us out of the Cullen Jenkins hunt, ugh another year of Spears and the big Russian at DE. yuck.
What a damn pity. I get the feeling that Rob Ryan is treated like a dog amongst men in Dallas. They treat him like a best friend but consider him beneath them. His stay in Dallas will be short.

They just tossed him a bone in Spears since he got jack crap in the draft. Don't tell me Bruce Carter is good. He's a limp, and at best a special teams guy. We reached badly and next year's draft is loaded with excellent ILBs. I hate the phrase... "He would've been a 1st rounder if he was healthy". Screw that. I see Kevin Burnett version 2.0.

Now for the next 4 years we can scout 3-4 DEs in the draft only to be left hanging because the Boys gave Spears 4 years. Complete disgust.

[D-Unit]

If you guys don't land Jenkins or Nmandi, your defense is going to suck something awful this year.

Even with Jenkins it still might be mediocre. That secondary is just not very good. You better hope Jenkins gets his head out of his ass and rekindles some of his sophomore magic. Or else you guys are screwed without Nmandi.
I'm already mad BBD. This is the 2nd time you said we'd suck something awful. Ok, we get it. You're good, we're bad. Congrats on winning the 2012 SB.

[bigbluedefense]

I'm already mad BBD. This is the 2nd time you said we'd suck something awful. Ok, we get it. You're good, we're bad. Congrats on winning the 2012 SB.

Hey hey heeeeyyyyy, easy there tiger. We haven't exactly tore up the league the last 2 years either.

I never said the Cowboys are gonna suck, I just said your defense could potentially stink if you don't make any moves. The offense is going to have to carry the team this year.

Never say never. Who saw the Falcons going 13-3?

You know I'm not trying to troll D. Come on now.

[TheFinisher]

toddarcher: A fist bump between Jerry n Stephen Jones. Oh the drama [via Twitter]

could it be? supposedly ESPNDallas radio has just said the Nnamdi story is about to break.

[leroyisgod]

could it be? supposedly ESPNDallas radio has just said the Nnamdi story is about to break.

PLEASE, something good

[TheFinisher]

JacquesTaylor Jean-Jacques Taylor
I told Jerry his money would be better served by not spending his money on Namdi. Apparently, though, he has not listened as usual.

:)))))))))))))

[D-Unit]

We need Nnamdi more than any team in the league.

[thule]

What a damn pity. I get the feeling that Rob Ryan is treated like a dog amongst men in Dallas. They treat him like a best friend but consider him beneath them. His stay in Dallas will be short.

They just tossed him a bone in Spears since he got jack crap in the draft. Don't tell me Bruce Carter is good. He's a limp, and at best a special teams guy. We reached badly and next year's draft is loaded with excellent ILBs. I hate the phrase... "He would've been a 1st rounder if he was healthy". Screw that. I see Kevin Burnett version 2.0.

Now for the next 4 years we can scout 3-4 DEs in the draft only to be left hanging because the Boys gave Spears 4 years. Complete disgust.

Eh Igor's contract runs out in 2013 but his last year is voidable...We have room for young talent at DE in the future...Spears is locked in for 4 tho so only 1.

[TheFinisher]

AlbertBreer Albert Breer
Filed to NFLN: Per a league source, the Jets, for now, are out of the Nnamdi Asomugha sweepstakes.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[pocketaces]

Jets say they are out!!! :))))))

[bigbluedefense]

Landing Nmandi would be huge for that defense. What's Calvin Watkins smoking?

Now that would be a great signing. I'm surprised they had the money to get him, but props to Stephen Jones for making room. That's a big move right there.

[leroyisgod]

Cmon nnamdi

[pocketaces]

Now NFL network says we are out!! What the heck????

[D-Unit]

It was a nice dream while it lasted.

So no Aso and no Cullen Jenkins. ahahahahahahahaha

[leroyisgod]

What the f

[leroyisgod]

Eagles, really??????

[pocketaces]

AND hes going to the Iggles!!! Shoot me NOW!!!!!!

[D-Unit]

We deserve any losing that comes our way.

[M.O.T.H.]

In hindsight...I would have paid that contract to Bowen.

[D-Unit]

What a dark... dark... day....

[TheFinisher]

I think I threw up a little in my mouth

[leroyisgod]

5 yrs 60mi, not even as big as I thought

[TheFinisher]

God, we were a freakin' pawn.

Jerry: So what do you think about this deal?

NA: Yeah, we're strongly considering it!

Jerry: *fist bumps*

NA: *laughs*

[D-Unit]

I went from this...

http://oasis-church-nj.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/oasis-prayer-hot-line.jpg

to this...

http://i51.tinypic.com/dpitew.gif

[D-Unit]

5 yrs 60mi, not even as big as I thought
Eric Weddle money.

[Trogdor]

Keep in mind the #1 reason we weren't able to go big this off-season was the VERY poor evaluation job done in previous large FA signings.

60mil over 5 years is a good deal though. Perhaps a blessing in disguise if we spend some at FS/SS and RG. Regardless of what is said on here Spears is a 3-4 DE that is 100% solid and consistent against the run. Does he has a full repertoire of pass rush skills? No. Is Rob going to blindly use him as a pass rusher? Not likely. At 4mil/yr he's a value pickup for a consistent, albeit not all-world, starting DE. Bowen was 100% not worth the contract. He is all potential and a player who wore down as his playing time went up. Inconsistent and expensive doesn't equal a smart investment.

Lets hope they use remaining cap on filling out our secondary and RG.

[D-Unit]

Keep in mind the #1 reason we weren't able to go big this off-season was the VERY poor evaluation job done in previous large FA signings.

60mil over 5 years is a good deal though. Perhaps a blessing in disguise if we spend some at FS/SS and RG. Regardless of what is said on here Spears is a 3-4 DE that is 100% solid and consistent against the run. Does he has a full repertoire of pass rush skills? No. Is Rob going to blindly use him as a pass rusher? Not likely. At 4mil/yr he's a value pickup for a consistent, albeit not all-world, starting DE. Bowen was 100% not worth the contract. He is all potential and a player who wore down as his playing time went up. Inconsistent and expensive doesn't equal a smart investment.

Lets hope they use remaining cap on filling out our secondary and RG.
Fool me once, shame on me...

Fool me 2x, 3x, 4x... a million times, shame on me.

But I'm not gonna get fooled a million and 1 times. NO WAY. JUST NO WAY.

Jerry = FAIL.

[leroyisgod]

At least we got Spears today....puke in mouth

[TheFinisher]

I just don't understand what the **** we're doing, Jerry is acting like a deer in headlights. We had the worst defense in the history of the franchise last year, a record setting **** show... and he hasn't made one move to try and improve it? We've sat by and watched all the top guys get signed...smh, idiots. Maybe Rob Ryan is going to coordinate AND line up at DE for us, hell he's probably still got more cajones than anybody on that sorry ass defense.

[D-Unit]

I just don't understand what the **** we're doing, Jerry is acting like a deer in headlights. We had the worst defense in the history of the franchise last year, a record setting **** show... and he hasn't made one move to try and improve it? We've sat by and watched all the top guys get signed...smh, idiots. I guess Rob Ryan will make everything better.
I love how people used to say, Rob has never had this kind of talent to work with before. What a F'n joke. Jerry got royally played. There ain't nothing left for him to do to make redemption and fix this defense.

Mebane got signed too btw.

The worst part about it is that he's the kid that thinks his players are better than they really are. That's why he resigned spears. Why did he rush to sign Spears? He would've been there a week from now. You put Cullen on hold because of Aso and then sign Spears? What a doofus.

[D-Unit]

We let Bowen go, but we resigned Spears.... FML.

[Go Cowboys]

Hey at least we are going to score 70 points a game..... Except when we play the Eagles and get shutdown by Namdi,Rodgers-Cromartie and don't they have Samuel too still?


Edit: WTF do the Eagles need him for if they have Rodgers-Cromartie and Samuel? Or is Samuel not there anymore and I missed it?

[M.O.T.H.]

They intend to keep all three unless they get a big trade offer. I dont know what the hell they're doing.

[Go Cowboys]

With the recent disappointment from Namdi here is a look at some guys I would like to snag in FA (No particular order)

Nick Barnett ILB (Was Cut, Figure we could Cut Brooking for Barnett who was a force for GB)

Ty Warren DE (Cut by Pats, Says he wants to go home to Texas and play ball there.)

Jason Hatcher, DE (Looks like Denver is going to drive the price up but I think we try to get him back)

Michael Huff, FS (Get him back to his roots, has he been rumored to us?)

Jordan Babineaux, FS (Intruiges me at Safety, not sure I would want him but not sure I wouldn't)

Darren Sharper, FS (Why not? Keeps showing that he can perform for the most part, beats Alan Ball that is for sure)

Kevin Boothe, G (Have liked the guy since he came out, not sure he would be an upgrade but just a thought)

Justin Blalock, G (Former Texas guy, might come back this way)

No one at SS makes me excited but there are guys like Pat Watkins and even Roy Williams out there who we know can play in run support if we get someone who can play in coverage better than the two of them.

Note: Anyone else notice that Bowen hasn't been officially signed as far as I can see? Appears he hasn't inked his name anywhere yet.

[Go Cowboys]

They intend to keep all three unless they get a big trade offer. I dont know what the hell they're doing.

The question is.... Who is playing Free Safety? Unless they plan to trade one of them or something I don't see the reason behind it.

[leroyisgod]

Roman Harper resigned with the Saints. 4 years $28.5 $16 guaranteed

[D-Unit]

Well as long as we have Keith Brooking and Bradie James.... LOL. We're screwed.

[M.O.T.H.]

I never really expected to get him anyway...I never found any sources saying we had connection with him.

Our defense is going to look nearly exactly the same, talent wise, as a year ago, at this point. The front 7 will be the same. As will corner, more than likely.

The biggest question in my mind, is will safety be occupied by Elam and Sensabaugh...Elam and another FA...or Elam and one of our three "in house" products?

Yes, I think we're getting Elam.

[leroyisgod]

They intend to keep all three unless they get a big trade offer. I dont know what the hell they're doing.

Cornering the market

Maybe they think they can move DRC to Saftey? They now have a solid corner in Hanson sitting there rotting.

I f'n hate the Eagles

[M.O.T.H.]

Cornering the market

Maybe they think they can move DRC to Saftey? They now have a solid corner in Hanson sitting there rotting.

I f'n hate the Eagles

No...they're all playing corner. DRC still has fantastic potential at corner. Not to mention, the guy is a twig.

[leroyisgod]

Okay so Elam, Huff, Whitner, Sensy...what other safeties are left?

[leroyisgod]

I'm sick to my stomach. I have very little optimism right now. JJ needs to make some damn moves to get us on track to compete from a defensive standpoint. I hope there's some deals going down this weekend.

[M.O.T.H.]

I dont think Ryan likes Huff at all. We apparently dont want him at all.

Tanard Jackson, Benard Pollard, Atarti Bigby, Brodney Pool, Darren Sharper, Reed Doughty...are some noteables off the top of my head. But it doesnt get much better than that, I believe.

Some of those guys may not even be available...I just got back, so I'm not updated on all the signings.

[D-Unit]

I dont think Ryan likes Huff at all. We apparently dont want him at all.

Tanard Jackson, Benard Pollard, Atarti Bigby, Brodney Pool, Darren Sharper, Reed Doughty...are some noteables off the top of my head. But it doesnt get much better than that, I believe.

Some of those guys may not even be available...I just got back, so I'm not updated on all the signings.
That's probably true. He was no good when Ryan was there. tsk tsk tsk.

Too early to welcome back Kenyon Coleman and Abram Elam? Oh geez. Who's next? Bobby Carpenter? Jacques Reeves?

[Go Cowboys]

That's probably true. He was no good when Ryan was there. tsk tsk tsk.

Too early to welcome back Kenyon Coleman and Abram Elam? Oh geez. Who's next? Bobby Carpenter? Jacques Reeves?

Don't you mean Barbie?

[D-Unit]

Really pissed off that we missed on Patrick Peterson now more than ever.

This coming from a Tyron fan. gah.

[M.O.T.H.]

I'm not...I'm not even worried about our corners, really. I expected them all back this year. Smith was still the best pick for this team, imo. I'm more than a little excited about having Free/Smith protecting Romo for many years.

As far as the draft is concerned...I just wish we would have taken Rahim Moore.

I assumed Bowen would return...so I wasnt too mad about passing on End at the time. I did have interest in Bailey, though.

[M.O.T.H.]

The scary thing, is that we have a preseason game in two weeks and have no safeties. This is why Elam is all but a lock, imo. He comes in and he knows what's going on.

Even Sensabaugh wont have familiarity with the defense. Whoever we get is going to have a lot to learn in a short period of time. I'm kind of getting nervous that we're going to move forward with either AOA or Church as one of the starters. Wouldnt surprise me at all if Church and Elam are our starting safeties this year. And that is just so freaking scary. lol. But Church has the edge over AOA for sure.

[D-Unit]

The scary thing, is that we have a preseason game in two weeks and have no safeties. This is why Elam is all but a lock, imo. He comes in and he knows what's going on.

Even Sensabaugh wont have familiarity with the defense. Whoever we get is going to have a lot to learn in a short period of time. I'm kind of getting nervous that we're going to move forward with either AOA or Church as one of the starters. Wouldnt surprise me at all if Church and Elam are our starting safeties this year. And that is just so freaking scary. lol. But Church has the edge over AOA for sure.
Elam is no savior. He's hardly a stop gap. I don't get any thrill in seeing him as a potential sign.

[TheFinisher]

Alright so had some time to blow steam off from the Nnamdi fiasco. Sucks, but what are you gonna do?

We need to get involved with FA though ASAP.

Wishlist as of right now:

Justin Blalock
Brodney Pool
Michael Huff
Kenyon Coleman

Get a young stud RG to finalize our retooling of the OL, and on defense bring in 2 new safeties who are already familiar with Rob's system. I really liked Pool when he came out and wanted us to draft him in the worst way. He never really lived up to what I thought he would be but he's still a very solid option at SS, as long as the concussion history is behind him. I don't know what the deal with Huff is or what Rob thinks of him, but if they're fond of each other then get his ass in here. He's far and away the best FS available and has really taken some strides forward as a player the past 2 seasons. Kenyon is JAG but he knows the system, will come cheap and we need the depth.

If we have the room leftover, go get Vonta Leach. He's a tough SOB and would be a nice upgrade to the running game. He's "The Right Kind of Guy" as Red would say.

[pocketaces]

So Im reading that we had a deal with Aso and that is who Jerry and Rob were talking to. The eagles came in last min and scooped him up somehow. Are ya'll hearing the same? I dont know how this happened. BLAH!!!

[D-Unit]

So Im reading that we had a deal with Aso and that is who Jerry and Rob were talking to. The eagles came in last min and scooped him up somehow. Are ya'll hearing the same? I dont know how this happened. BLAH!!!
Whatevers... Calvin Watkins said on ESPN that Jerry offered $40M. What a cheap ass.

[TheFinisher]

So Im reading that we had a deal with Aso and that is who Jerry and Rob were talking to. The eagles came in last min and scooped him up somehow. Are ya'll hearing the same? I dont know how this happened. BLAH!!!

yea that's the story, but like D said... Jerry only offered 40 mil.

on another note, how good does Otogwe's 5 year 26 mil deal look now? lol

[M.O.T.H.]

Elam is no savior. He's hardly a stop gap. I don't get any thrill in seeing him as a potential sign.

Elam is a fine player, I never said he was a savior. It just makes sense to sign him. Ryan's defense is complicated. It'd be smart to sign a decent safety, with knowledge of the schematics. I want two safeties, but I am hoping Elam is one of them, his familiarity with Ryan and the defense would be incredibly beneficial. And Elam is a pretty good player, make no mistake about it. Certainly on par with Sensabaugh.

These aren't star players, but you could certainly win with these guys. They're not defense killers like an Alan Ball. Everyone who is left is an average to above average safety. Elam/Sensy are quality players. Nothing special, but starting safeties in this league. That's what we're looking at right now.

[D-Unit]

yea that's the story, but like D said... Jerry only offered 40 mil.

on another note, how good does Otogwe's 5 year 26 mil deal look now? lol
Another f'n muff up by this team. I'm tired of giving them chance after chance and stick up for them. This team is full of fail.

Patrick Peterson is the best DB prospect of the decade and we don't trade up. All we needed was a RT. Gaither was signed cheap today with the Raiders. Would've been fine with that.

Bruce Carter is out. Kevin Burnett 2.0.

Murray injured. Waste of a 3rd rounder.

Gurode surgery. Wisniewski will end up all pro. lol.

Yes, the sky is falling. Get used to it.

[M.O.T.H.]

Bruce Carter was expected to be out, Murray will be back in a couple of weeks, and Gurode's injury isnt serious or substansial. Yall need to chilllllll.

You draft guys like Carter/Lee for the future. Anything you get out of them a year removed from an ACL injury is just a plus. I'm certainly not a fan of drafting this way, as I've expressed my dislike for it in the past. But you should be aware what you're in for initially, with picks like this.

Now if you want to complain with the lack of defensive help...I have no argument against that.

[LonghornsLegend]

Another f'n muff up by this team. I'm tired of giving them chance after chance and stick up for them. This team is full of fail.

Patrick Peterson is the best DB prospect of the decade and we don't trade up. All we needed was a RT. Gaither was signed cheap today with the Raiders. Would've been fine with that.

Bruce Carter is out. Kevin Burnett 2.0.

Murray injured. Waste of a 3rd rounder.

Gurode surgery. Wisniewski will end up all pro. lol.

Yes, the sky is falling. Get used to it.



Funny thing I agree with all of this 200%. This have gotten progressively worse. We had a SB window, every season for awhile on paper we had a top 5 team, and one that could easily win the SB, a few years you would say should.


Now, it's not even close. No point in trying to sugarcoat it. Doesn't mean I don't want to win, but it's obvious in terms of talent we are nothing like we used to look like.


I'll be whining about Stephen Bowen/Marcus Spears for the next year, so you guys don't say I didn't warn you lol.

[D-Unit]

Funny thing I agree with all of this 200%. This have gotten progressively worse. We had a SB window, every season for awhile on paper we had a top 5 team, and one that could easily win the SB, a few years you would say should.


Now, it's not even close. No point in trying to sugarcoat it. Doesn't mean I don't want to win, but it's obvious in terms of talent we are nothing like we used to look like.


I'll be whining about Stephen Bowen/Marcus Spears for the next year, so you guys don't say I didn't warn you lol.
The problem is not that they don't have a vision. It's that their plan is so damn terrible and their execution is just as bad.

[M.O.T.H.]

Didnt someone post that Holland came in at a sloppy weight again? Every Dallas site seems to be jumping the gun on his becoming the starter. Even going as far as interviewing him about starting for the upcoming season. Scares me a bit. But I'm holding out hope that we jump into this RG market soon. Holland's serviceable, but there are better players out there.

Seriously...we were preparing to spend some cash on Aso. You best upgrade your RG position. Aside from the #3 WR position, it's the only position on the offense that I'm a little concerned about.

I'm not that high on Oggs right now...I actually would love to see Harris nail down the spot. Manny probably has a better shot, though. That said, I wouldnt mind signing a #3...but it's not that necessary. But we're a WR injury away from a potentially scary situation.

[D-Unit]

Didnt someone post that Holland came in at a sloppy weight again? Every Dallas site seems to be jumping the gun on his becoming the starter. Even going as far as interviewing him about starting for the upcoming season. Scares me a bit. But I'm holding out hope that we jump into this RG market soon. Holland's serviceable, but there are better players out there.
Would shock me to see them give him a 4 year deal like Spears. lmao.

[M.O.T.H.]

The thing that would really make me livid, would be the re-signing of Davis. lol.

Oh and as for camp...it's sad seeing the names we have out there working with the 1st team along the O-Line, D-Line, and at S. Tyron Smith is even starting at LT because we have no one else to play the position...so he isnt even getting any work in at the position he'll actually be starting at yet. :/ Lissemore starting on defense. :/ And AOA and Church being forced to start at the safety spots. lol.

[D-Unit]

The thing that would really make me livid, would be the re-signing of Davis. lol.

Oh and as for camp...it's sad seeing the names we have out there working with the 1st team along the O-Line, D-Line, and at S. Tyron Smith is even starting at LT because we have no one else to play the position...so he isnt even getting any work in at the position he'll actually be starting at yet. :/ Lissemore starting on defense. :/ And AOA and Church being forced to start at the safety spots. lol.
I'm just so disgusted. Maybe tomorrow will be a new day, but right now, I'm royally pissed.

If I'm offending anybody... pls forgive me.... just let me be for today. haha.

Right now Cullen Jenkins will be the only guy that can cheer me up. But I think signing Spears ended that. *************** )@&*(#$)*&@$#)Q(@3$_

[M.O.T.H.]

I would certainly say that Spears contract will put an end to that pursuit. You never know, but it doesnt appear too likely. Maybe, just maybe...Ty Warren can give us a discount price. He's a Texas guy, wants to come home and play for Dallas or Houston he said.

[M.O.T.H.]

We just signed Kenyon Coleman. I'm a Coleman fan...he provides nice depth and is a nice rotational guy. I'd even argue that he's better than Spears. But with Spears contract, I think we know who will be starting.

[D-Unit]

We just signed Kenyon Coleman. I'm a Coleman fan...he provides nice depth and is a nice rotational guy. I'd even argue that he's better than Spears. But with Spears contract, I think we know who will be starting.
Somebody wake me up from this @#$*() NIGHTMARE!!!!

I think in 99.99% of the 2011 mock drafts found on this forum, the NY Jets had a 34 DE mocked going to them in the 1st round. Why? Because Coleman sucks ass.

[M.O.T.H.]

Somebody wake me up from this @#$*() NIGHTMARE!!!!

I think in 99.99% of the 2011 mock drafts found on this forum, the NY Jets had a 34 DE mocked going to them in the 1st round. Why? Because Coleman sucks ass.

Wrong team. He was on the Browns playing for the other Ryan. lol.

Coleman was actually a solid starting 34 End for years after he left Dallas. And now he's just going to be a back up/rotational end behind Spears. It's a good signing. But we certainly have made no upgrades at End. Starting Bowen a full year, was going to be an upgrade in itself, imo. But yeah **** Washington.

I will say this, though. The only end we have capable of rushing the passer is Lissemore. And we're not even sure if he's a keeper yet. :/

Looks like we're done at DE, though. Time to move on to S and G. Elam will be the next to fall, imo. Nothing sexy about this off-season addition wise. You gotta love the cuts we've made at least.

[D-Unit]

Wrong team. He was on the Browns playing for the other Ryan. lol.

Coleman was actually a solid starting 34 End for years after he left Dallas. And now he's just going to be a back up/rotational end behind Spears. It's a good signing. But we certainly have made no upgrades at End. Starting Bowen a full year, was going to be an upgrade in itself, imo. But yeah **** Washington.

I will say this, though. The only end we have capable of rushing the passer is Lissemore. And we're not even sure if he's a keeper yet. :/

Looks like we're done at DE, though. Time to move on to S and G. Elam will be the next to fall, imo. Nothing sexy about this off-season addition wise. You gotta love the cuts we've made at least.
Ya but the Browns were the same. Let's not kid ourselves here. We sucked at DE going into the draft and FA and we still suck now.

How stupid can one team be?

[M.O.T.H.]

I wouldnt entirely disagree in regard to us...that said, Dallas is only a year removed from a great defense, with the same three d-lineman. I def. think Spears/Igor are rather ordinary, however. Spears does his job just fine, but I was ready for a change, just like everyone else. And I wanted that to be Bowen, dammit. Hopefully Ryan can light a fire under them and get them to perform like they did in 2009 when we had a top 5 run defense. Again, it's all the same guys.

I was just finally looking forward to starting an End with some impressive pass rush skill. Our Ends are very run defense oriented, which is never a bad thing in a 34, but still.

[D-Unit]

I wouldnt entirely disagree in regard to us...that said, Dallas is only a year removed from a great defense, with the same three d-lineman. I def. think Spears/Igor are rather ordinary, however. Spears does his job just fine, but I was ready for a change, just like everyone else. And I wanted that to be Bowen, dammit. Hopefully Ryan can light a fire under them and get them to perform like they did in 2009 when we had a top 5 run defense. Again, it's all the same guys.

I was just finally looking forward to starting an End with some impressive pass rush skill. Our Ends are very run defense oriented, which is never a bad thing in a 34, but still.
Our best pass rusher on the DL is our NT. Pathetic.

[Crimson79]

Our best pass rusher on the DL is our NT. Pathetic.

Mother of Gawd would you chill out.

[M.O.T.H.]

Funny enough...even though, we had been in contact with some of the big names, this off-season is turning out a lot like a lot of us initially imagined. When we thought that we didnt have all that much to spend, that is.

The only real kick in the teeth has been losing Bowen, however. Other than that, I was just hoping to grab a safety or two and a RG. All still very possible. Trying to look at the bright side, of our quiet off-season, at least. haha.

[D-Unit]

Mother of Gawd would you chill out.
Mediocrity doesn't suit me very well and I'm tired of the impotency of this team's management. We aren't winning the SB this season, next season or any season in the foreseeable future. This is how I deal with it. Venting on a damn forum.

[FreshBoy!]

You're annoying. The sky isn't falling, it's august 1st. Let the games begin before you start with the doom and gloom. This is the same team(see. better) that went 5-3 over the last 8 games without Romo, Dez, and a slew of other injuries.

Stop it, you're acting like my 7 year old daughter when she doesn't get her way.

[D-Unit]

I'm just so disgusted. Maybe tomorrow will be a new day, but right now, I'm royally pissed.

If I'm offending anybody... pls forgive me.... just let me be for today. haha.

Right now Cullen Jenkins will be the only guy that can cheer me up. But I think signing Spears ended that. *************** )@&*(#$)*&@$#)Q(@3$_
See bold .

[D-Unit]

OK. Now here's some good news. More from the player's standpoint than the Cowboys, but Ty Warren wants to play here. Woohoo!

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/cowboys/2011/07/source-ty-warren-is-interested-in-joining-cowboys.html#ixzz1Tff8LECO

Source: Ty Warren is interested in joining Cowboys

The Patriots released defensive end Ty Warren on Friday. A source said Warren, a Bryan High and Texas A&M product, is interested in returning home to play for either the Cowboys or the Texans. He grew up a Cowboys fan and Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan was the linebackers coach with Warren in New England in 2003, ao they have a relationship.

Warren failed his physical, failing his conditioning test. But it had nothing to do with his hip. He already had been cleared from the hip injury that forced him to miss all of last season. undergoing surgery last Aug. 16 to repair a torn labrum.

Warren has played in 105 games since the Patriost picked in him in the first round of the 2003 draft. He has 496 tackles, 20.5 sacks and four forced fumbles in his career.




If the Cowboys don't jump all over this, then they are indeed stupid.

[Trogdor]

Not really understanding the 'poor decision making' of the Cowboys D-Unit. You want to go back in time and draft a luxury pick rather than staying put and getting great value at a position of need. Then you want to sign an injury risk (Columbo 2.0) to protect Romo. I would be pissed if they showed that flashy, fan pleasing, type of plan as opposed to filling needs and sticking to JG's plan.

Coleman/Spears are solid 3-4 lineman I HATE when people act as though they should be penetrating sack beasts. It is highly scheme dependent and if you think Ryan would ask/approve signings of dlineman that don't fit his scheme you're being naive. Obviously Rob isn't going to be asking his 3-4 DEs to play like Rat. Occupy blockers, be solid against the run, and give Ware and Spencer the space to get sacks.

Another positive of the Coleman signing is that we may be lucky enough to get rid of the dancing bear Russian. We can still have a very solid, and unspectacular (which is a good thing considering our owner) off-season. We trimmed dead weight, we re-signed our franchise LT, we drafted our future LT/RT, we signed/re-signed our 3-4 DE depth, and still have the cap space to finish off our needs at FS/SS/RG.

Safeties: Huff/Elam/Sensabaugh/Whitner/Goldson/Pool
R. Guard: Bialock/Waters/Bell/

[leroyisgod]

We need to consider a play on a WR too. Outside of our starters I'm not comfortable with what we have.

[LonghornsLegend]

How much is Cullen Jenkins going for? Warren is an obvious move, but I'm curious about the price Jenkins will get, seems like he'd be affordable. Huff & Elam could both still be had also.

[LonghornsLegend]

Didnt someone post that Holland came in at a sloppy weight again? Every Dallas site seems to be jumping the gun on his becoming the starter. Even going as far as interviewing him about starting for the upcoming season. Scares me a bit. But I'm holding out hope that we jump into this RG market soon. Holland's serviceable, but there are better players out there.

Seriously...we were preparing to spend some cash on Aso. You best upgrade your RG position. Aside from the #3 WR position, it's the only position on the offense that I'm a little concerned about.

I'm not that high on Oggs right now...I actually would love to see Harris nail down the spot. Manny probably has a better shot, though. That said, I wouldnt mind signing a #3...but it's not that necessary. But we're a WR injury away from a potentially scary situation.


I think Oggs will be fine after awhile, but Harris is a perfect fit for the #3 role right away. He's just a very explosive player who makes plays in space, I think he'll play in the slot more so then Austin now. He won't learn all the positions, may struggle off the jam, but if we get him in space on some WR screens like we love to run, or bubble routes, or just underneath routes as a safety valve, he'll be our best option.


He's going to be a guy you try and give the ball to 2-5 times a game in various positions.

[yanksknicks]

Team's problem is with 23 million in dead cap next year -- pretty hard to do anything without burying yourself even further.

Jones' past player acquisition sins have (again) come back to bite the team. The cuts, while needed, were all players that other GMs never would have paid what Jones paid.

Smart money was never on Barber living out his contract, Roy doing anything, Davis not getting lazy again. Even the Colombo contract was silly b/c they did have Free who they sat on way too long. In fact, even the Roy trade itself (money aside) was dumb because you had Austin and the management could not project. Bringing back Elam? You cut him in favor of Williams SS a few years back.

So, it seems the team is making good moves and a sign of real thinking going on (subtsance over style) in Dallas but till 2013 FA forget about anything big like ASO.

[LonghornsLegend]

Guys, let's not keep worrying about the cap next year. Watch when it gets here it gets manipulated again and were under and signing FA's. Jerry isn't that stupid, he's a big part of the CBA's and he understands cap management as well as anyone.


I just don't see the point in worrying about it now because it'll work itself out. I can't remember us ever being in cap trouble.

[LonghornsLegend]

OK. Now here's some good news. More from the player's standpoint than the Cowboys, but Ty Warren wants to play here. Woohoo!

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/cowboys/2011/07/source-ty-warren-is-interested-in-joining-cowboys.html#ixzz1Tff8LECO

Source: Ty Warren is interested in joining Cowboys

The Patriots released defensive end Ty Warren on Friday. A source said Warren, a Bryan High and Texas A&M product, is interested in returning home to play for either the Cowboys or the Texans. He grew up a Cowboys fan and Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan was the linebackers coach with Warren in New England in 2003, ao they have a relationship.

Warren failed his physical, failing his conditioning test. But it had nothing to do with his hip. He already had been cleared from the hip injury that forced him to miss all of last season. undergoing surgery last Aug. 16 to repair a torn labrum.

Warren has played in 105 games since the Patriost picked in him in the first round of the 2003 draft. He has 496 tackles, 20.5 sacks and four forced fumbles in his career.




If the Cowboys don't jump all over this, then they are indeed stupid.




Chiefs scooped up Kelly Gregg, had no idea he was even out there. Great signing, I need to look at the numbers and see what he got in comparison to Spears.

[TheFinisher]

OK. Now here's some good news. More from the player's standpoint than the Cowboys, but Ty Warren wants to play here. Woohoo!

http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/cowboys/2011/07/source-ty-warren-is-interested-in-joining-cowboys.html#ixzz1Tff8LECO

Source: Ty Warren is interested in joining Cowboys

The Patriots released defensive end Ty Warren on Friday. A source said Warren, a Bryan High and Texas A&M product, is interested in returning home to play for either the Cowboys or the Texans. He grew up a Cowboys fan and Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan was the linebackers coach with Warren in New England in 2003, ao they have a relationship.

Warren failed his physical, failing his conditioning test. But it had nothing to do with his hip. He already had been cleared from the hip injury that forced him to miss all of last season. undergoing surgery last Aug. 16 to repair a torn labrum.

Warren has played in 105 games since the Patriost picked in him in the first round of the 2003 draft. He has 496 tackles, 20.5 sacks and four forced fumbles in his career.




If the Cowboys don't jump all over this, then they are indeed stupid.

And he's willing to play for the vet minimum, this should be a no brainer for us.

Per Rotoworld:

Free agent DE Ty Warren is reportedly willing to play for the veteran's minimum in order to sign with a contender.

SI's Peter King stresses that Warren will not return to the Patriots. Warren, 30, was a top-ten 3-4 defensive end in football two years ago, according to Pro Football Focus. He's openly expressed interest in Dallas and Houston.

[leroyisgod]

But he wants to play for a contender. Lol

[FreshBoy!]

Would there be a cap hit for cutting Igor? Or would the boys actually save some cap space?

After getting Spears/Coleman for such cheap deals, wouldn't it be possible to still go after C.Jenkins, cutting Igor, and having enough to resign Sense and signing Abram?

That would literally be the best possible FA period for the 'Boys. Improves the safety play, pass rush, and we'd have to hope Jenkins returned to form, and TNew would be healthy. I'd expect a night and day difference out of that Defense.

Especially after reading all of the different pre-snap adjustments the Boys are making in Training Camp.

[D-Unit]

And he's willing to play for the vet minimum, this should be a no brainer for us.

Per Rotoworld:
Shocked that he's not a Cowboy yet. Completely shocked. Might as well say this... "Congratulations Houston."

[M.O.T.H.]

We have no intentions of cutting Igor and we're out of the Jenkins race. Spears, Ratliff, and Igor will be the starters this year. Coleman provides a solid rotational DE and hopefully Lissemore can step up and be that that pass rush end that we could use.

As for Ty Warren...I would love to bring him into the fold as well. He understands that he's not necessarily looking at a starting role anymore. And he would certainly give us a discount based on what he said. We may not appear to be a contender, necessarily...but the home town discount could very much be in play.

If I had to guess, I'd say we're done at end, though. And with word of us being done with Sensy and not interested in Huff. It sounds more and more like Elam/Church will be the safety duo.

[TheFinisher]

Anyone interested in Randy Moss?

We're going to have to outscore teams to win games, why not get one of the best deep threats in the game. Moss and Dez on the outside with Miles in the slot would be insane. It would be a power move after what the Eagles are doing with their secondary.

[D-Unit]

Anyone interested in Randy Moss?

We're going to have to outscore teams to win games, why not get one of the best deep threats in the game. Moss and Dez on the outside with Miles in the slot would be insane. It would be a power move after what the Eagles are doing with their secondary.
Moss would be horrible. No thanks.

Our WR corps is the last of my worries. For offense, it's all about the OL.

What's happening on the Vonta Leach front? I want him!

[M.O.T.H.]

Nothing as of late...but I'd imagine our chances are rather lower, considering our true FB use and offensive style, compared to the Broncos and Ravens. The other two teams that want him.

[D-Unit]

Nothing as of late...but I'd imagine our chances are rather lower, considering our true FB use and offensive style, compared to the Broncos and Ravens. The other two teams that want him.
Good point.

I'm a bit cooled off from yesterday. Nothing like some good ole fashion youtube clips to cheer you up.

I loved Josh Thomas' interview. If you haven't seen it, it's pretty awesome. I just love the part where he talks about the call he got from Jerry on draft day.

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[TheFinisher]

Cool interview, I like Thomas and am hoping he brings a little toughness to our secondary.

Some bad news though, ESPNDallas is reporting that WR coach Jimmy Robinson has been carted off the field and brought to the local hospital. Supposedly during a punt drill, WR Teddy Williams was the gunner running full speed and got pushed out of bounds collideing into Robinson. They think it could be a head injury and it seemed pretty serious.

Let's hope he's alright.

[D-Unit]

Cool interview, I like Thomas and am hoping he brings a little toughness to our secondary.

Some bad news though, ESPNDallas is reporting that WR coach Jimmy Robinson has been carted off the field and brought to the local hospital. Supposedly during a punt drill, WR Teddy Williams was the gunner running full speed and got pushed out of bounds collideing into Robinson. They think it could be a head injury and it seemed pretty serious.

Let's hope he's alright.
Holy crap. Hope it goes well.

Fricken Teddy... cut his ass. He's been dropping everything and now this...

[M.O.T.H.]

Teddy has been an embarassment out there. Not his fault if he was pushed into him, but yeah...Teddy isnt a football player.

I heard Josh Thomas has looked solid, on the flip side. I just cant wait until we actually get a bunch of our starters back in camp...Free, Kosier, Gurode, Spears, any additional safety.

[TheFinisher]

Cullen Jenkins to the Eagles, 5 years 25 Mil

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n524/macazoe010/marc.gif

[M.O.T.H.]

So why the **** wouldnt we pay Jenkins 5 years ; $25 million? Instead of splurging on Spears? Bleh. Spears isnt a horrible signing but, it was only an extra $5 million for a superior player. The Eagles dont even need the guy...the Eagles spending is really pissing me off. :(

[TheFinisher]

So why the **** wouldnt we pay Jenkins 5 years ; $25 million? Instead of splurging on Spears? Bleh. Spears isnt a horrible signing but, it was only an extra $5 million for a superior player. The Eagles dont even need the guy...the Eagles spending is really pissing me off. :(

So in the past week they added Nnamdi, Jenkins, DRC, Babin... am I forgetting anybody?

WHAT ARE WE DOING?!

[M.O.T.H.]

I'm not a fan of spending like that to build your team...but I at least hoped we would make a few FA splashes, once the money was figured out.

[leroyisgod]

Okoye was released, would he be a fit at de?

[M.O.T.H.]

He was going to play end for Wade, he said, but the Texans never really seemed to like his fit in the 34. He seemed excited about the prospect of moving to end. But they were looking to trade him. If he's game, I wouldnt mind taking a flyer on the guy, he's still only 24. And I actually do like his fit at 34 end. He could also be kicked inside on passing downs. That said, he hasnt shown that he could consistently rush the passer at all...he was supposed to be big time, in this aspect by now. He's been a bust to this point, but again, I actually like what he brings to the table at end. Worth a flyer for sure. Should come very cheap.

[TheFinisher]

Sensabaugh is reportedly too expensive for us and he most likely won't be back.

Didn't really want him back anyway but now with the slim pickings left at safety I figured he would have been an attractive cheap option. I'm really starting to get worried about the safety spot, AOA or Church are not ready to start.

[M.O.T.H.]

It's probably going to be an Elam/Church pairing. I really doubt they'd throw AOA to the wolves at FS and the coaches like Church.

[FreshBoy!]

Lol I know it's wayyyyy to early to be thinking about the season....but the Cowboys play the Eagles the saturday night game...christmas eve...

I swear nothing will make for a better story than for the underdog to beat the miami heat of the NFL on a national holiday.

[leroyisgod]

I mean is it possible were sitting by idely bc we like our young safeties?

[M.O.T.H.]

I mean is it possible were sitting by idely bc we like our young safeties?

No. I'm 100% confident that Elam will be a Cowboy. The Browns have moved on, he fits perfectly, and the interest is mutual.

He already knows the defense, so there isnt a huge rush...but it'd be nice to just get it done already.

Lol I know it's wayyyyy to early to be thinking about the season....but the Cowboys play the Eagles the saturday night game...christmas eve...

I swear nothing will make for a better story than for the underdog to beat the miami heat of the NFL on a national holiday.


I was getting nervous about week one, against Revis and Aso. Turns out we have to play some super star Eagles team twice a year now. Cool.

[bigbluedefense]

I feel like crap seeing Nmandi and Jenkins go to the Eagles.

You guys must feel even worse. It's like going to the club, hitting on a girl, then seeing your worst enemy swoop in, tap her on the shoulder, and say "she's coming with me" to you.

Then you go after girl #2, and the same thing happens, except this time he says "no *****, this one is mine too" and leaves with both of them for what you assume to be one hell of a 3some.

Meanwhile you're left with your right hand and Marcus Spears.

We can group hug on this one. I feel like crap seeing the Eagles rape the league too.

[FreshBoy!]

Yea, rumors are they about to sign Plax. They're going all in. I can't even be mad, that's what a well run Front Office is supposed to do. Build the team through the draft, re-sign your core/franchise players, and sign the missing FA pieces to put you over the top.

Wow...

They still have some issues, obviously. I'm not as worried about their CB's as everyone else. Defensively they're still weak. Offensively, I can honestly say the Boys/Eagles are about the same. The problem is their defense IS better than ours on paper, so when it comes down to a shootout, all they need is one more stop.

[TheFinisher]

I feel like crap seeing Nmandi and Jenkins go to the Eagles.

You guys must feel even worse. It's like going to the club, hitting on a girl, then seeing your worst enemy swoop in, tap her on the shoulder, and say "she's coming with me" to you.

Then you go after girl #2, and the same thing happens, except this time he says "no *****, this one is mine too" and leaves with both of them for what you assume to be one hell of a 3some.

Meanwhile you're left with your right hand and Marcus Spears.

We can group hug on this one. I feel like crap seeing the Eagles rape the league too.

Haha, I needed that.

It's not even just the Nnamdi and Jenkins signings, the only outside help we've brought in is Kenyon frick'n Coleman. Bowen has walked, Hatcher doesn't look to be back and I don't even want to think of what we currently have at safety.

I think after last season and how the defense performed, most of us figured the only way to go is up.... but it appears we may have been wrong.

[M.O.T.H.]

This goes beyond normal FA spending...I wouldnt even like if Dallas tried to buy their way to a championship. I cant really hate, because they have the money under the cap to do so. But I'm just not big on this style of over spending in FA.

[FreshBoy!]

If they win it all........well.....it was worth it, no?

I'm not a fan either...and for the most part, the Cowboys are doing exactly what we've said they SHOULD"VE been doing for years....it just hurts seeing a division rival do the opposite. It's basically a taste of our own medicine in the 90's. It's why the 'Boys are so hated, really.

[M.O.T.H.]

I will never agree with over spending...I think it cheapens everything. Again, I cant hate if the money is actually available. This is why I am a salary cap fan. But I will always be the type that believes more so in a steady progression toward a championship, built primarily through the draft, more so than an all out off-season spending spree to get you there. I'm a fan of team growth and player progression, what can I say? haha.

And additionally...it may be a blessing in disguise that we didnt over spend, with a huge cap deficit of dead money looming. We always manage to do well with the cap situation, but $20+ million, in addition to us being over the cap next year, aint gonna be as easy to over come. Lucky for us, we've had to cut bad over priced players, I just dont want to ever get to the point where we're cutting good over priced players. You can only push things back so far before the cap becomes a burden. The Colts and Steelers had to deal with these things before as well. Leading to the release of prominent players.

[bigbluedefense]

The season isn't over for you guys yet. Do I view the Cowboys as a SB contender? No I do not.

Do I view the Cowboys as a team that's as talented as the Eagles or Giants? No I do not.

However, you never know what happens during a season. You can sneak in as a wildcard. The offense is loaded, and while the defense will be mediocre this year, offense tends to win in the regular season, so you never know.

If you can catch some lucky bounces, tear it up on offense, and stay healthy and the rest of the division doesn't stay healthy, who knows. You never know.

But the Eagles in my eyes are clearly the favorites right now, and I'd be lying to you if I told you I'm afraid of the Cowboys this season.

[M.O.T.H.]

I'm not low on the season at all, myself. The way I view it, is that we're going to be just as talented as we've been for the last few years. The offense is going to be good, we all know that. Probably better even, with Miles and Dez starting, a full work load out of Felix, and what should be a better offensive line. Davis/Colombo used to be excellent, but they were horrible last year...Smith is rookie, but should be an upgrade and hopefully we sign a RG. Damn near anyone is better than what we got out of Davis last year.

On defense...the front seven is exactly the same as it was two years ago, when we had a top 10 defense, and a top 5 rush defense. It's quite possible that Ryan's schematic changes and fire, could get these guys playing good football again. At corner, they're all the same. Coming off a rough year at corner, but they've all played well in the past. Jenkins just really needs to get some confidence back, and Scandrick came on strong at the end of last year. At safety, almost anything is better than Ball, you'd imagine...and Elam/Sensabaugh is a push, possibly better, if that's who we end up with.

No, we havent seen many upgrades...but we've trimmed almost all of the fat away. Dallas could certainly still surprise with an a new coaching regime in charge and a new approach to the 34 defense.

I'm actually not worried in the slightest. I'm not going into this season expecting to win it all. Just taking it game by game. Dallas plays well as an underdog and our schedule has the potential to be rather weak. They could be better than a lot of people think.

I'm disappointed that we havent been able to land some guys...but I'm still very excited to get this season under way.

[M.O.T.H.]

Really though, our out of division schedule doesnt look too bad aside from the Jets and Pats.

Four games against the horrible NFC West, Buffalo, Detroit, Miami, and Tampa. Granted, Tampa has turned things around, but they're still a maturing team. They could just as easily go back to struggling this year, it just remains to be seen. Those are 8 very winnable games.

[leroyisgod]

Carl Nicks is still out there

[M.O.T.H.]

He's restricted...it'd cost a 1st rounder.

[M.O.T.H.]

Broncos cut FS Renaldo Hill...I'd rather pass...he's pretty decent, nothing special. Pretty much on par with what else is available. But he does have links to Ryan. He had his best year under him in Oakland.

Rahim Moore pegged to start now for Denver I suppose. :(

[leroyisgod]

Jerry says he has a lot of bait in the water when it comes to free agents.

[M.O.T.H.]

Jerry says he has a lot of bait in the water when it comes to free agents.

Sounds good to me, man.

[M.O.T.H.]

Dan Bailey making everything in practice so far. 15-15. Nice. Buehler has been erratic.

JJ says we may keep two kickers again, though. Not feeling that too much. Given the fact that the ball has been moved up on kickoffs. We'll have to see how Bailey does here, he wasnt asked to do it in college.

[TheFinisher]

Found a good Huff video of this past year. I'm really confused as to why we're not after him.

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[Trogdor]

Bailey is excellent inside 40 yards. Outside of that forget about it he has zero distance. I imagine since he can't hit a 50 yard FG to save his life that kickoffs are a tad out of the question unless you want them landing at the 10.

[D-Unit]

MERRRCY!!!


MERRRCCYYYYY!!!!


MMEEEEERRRCCYYYY!!!!!!!!!!


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[M.O.T.H.]

No one seems interested in Huff right now. He sucked under Ryan, and was considered a bad/lazy player and teammate. Not that surprising that we dont want him. If Ryan doesnt like him, he doesnt like him.

Ryan is obviously going to have tons of power in who we bring in on the defensive end. And the fact that it's been reported that we have no interest in Huff, should tell you a little something in regard to Ryan/Huff's relationship. Last I heard, no one had even contacted Huff yet.

[D-Unit]

Jerry says he has a lot of bait in the water when it comes to free agents.
Jerry is full of it. All the good guys worth a darn are gone.

Guess we can overpay role players like we've been doing.

Marcus Spears - 4 years, $20M

Cullen Jenkins - 5 years, $25M

I mean really...... IS THIS SOME SORT OF SICK JOKE???!!!!

[M.O.T.H.]

Bailey is excellent inside 40 yards. Outside of that forget about it he has zero distance. I imagine since he can't hit a 50 yard FG to save his life that kickoffs are a tad out of the question unless you want them landing at the 10.

That's not true. Bailey can hit from 50 for sure and he has. His leg power does extend that far. Just dont expect us to be attempting any like 54 yarders out there. His leg strength is being underrated. He can certainly win the job, and you can bet of the 15 he's attempted in practice, at least one would have extended passed 50 yards. He has the leg for that.

I'd rather have an accurate kicker who is pretty damn solid from within 50, than Buehler who is more athlete with a booming leg, than an NFL quality kicker. His technique is terrible, he's always going to torque them.

edit...now you have me looking it up. lol. 3/4 from 50 this year. I knew I saw him hit a few from 50+ this year.

[leroyisgod]

There has to be a reason why Huff hasn't been gobbled up yet.

[M.O.T.H.]

I'd take Huff if the price was right and Ryan wanted him. I initially assumed he'd be one of our top targets. But this has been pretty telling, imo. Sounds like teams are hesitant to pony up the money for Huff, who has been pretty damn inconsistent and at times downright bad, until just recently. And of course, the fact that he has been labled as "lazy" and a bad teammate doesnt help either.

[D-Unit]

At this point, I don't care what Rob wants. Huff is the best thing out there and he's improved dramatically since he was with Rob.

[JBCX]

Jerry is full of it. All the good guys worth a darn are gone.

Guess we can overpay role players like we've been doing.

Marcus Spears - 4 years, $20M

Cullen Jenkins - 5 years, $25M

I mean really...... IS THIS SOME SORT OF SICK JOKE???!!!!

To be fair, Spears is probably just as good of a player as Jenkins, or only slightly worse, but far less injury-prone than Jenkins.

[M.O.T.H.]

At this point, I don't care what Rob wants. Huff is the best thing out there and he's improved dramatically since he was with Rob.

Yeah, that's a good way to build team chemistry.

You should want Rob to have the guys he's most comfortable with and has faith in, to run his system, and run it correctly.

No one wants Michael Huff right now, not just us. His interest has been non-existent league wide to this point.

[M.O.T.H.]

Marion Barber is now a Bear. Jerry Angelo is obviously a Cowboys fan.

edit...In addition to saying "we have a lot of bait in the water", as was previously posted...Jerry said not to expect an O-Lineman signing. WTF? Now that would make me mad. He says not to expect it, because he wants his younger players to have a chance to shine. hmmm. Hopefully, he means we're just not going to sign a T. Because there are tons of RG upgrades available, for a range of prices. Hell, Nick Cole is better than anything we have and should come dirt cheap. dammit. I couldnt imagine we turn to Arkin as early as this year. And Holland certainly isnt one of our "young guys". And Houck hasnt exactly been raving about him in interviews thus far, either.

Jerry, go sign a RG! please.

[FreshBoy!]

As weird as this sounds........and maybe i'm drinking the kool aid....but I imagine a scenario where the Cowboys come out like gangbusters. Real humble, with chips on their shoulder (romo, t.new, jenkins, spencer)..They've been DOGGED in the media(deservingly), I think they put up and shut up..and just play great ball. Bunch of high character guys, no clowns(roy & TO).

I'm giddy!

[D-Unit]

Hey guys!!! WE SIGNED ALAN BALL!!!! WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[D-Unit]

Yeah, that's a good way to build team chemistry.

You should want Rob to have the guys he's most comfortable with and has faith in, to run his system, and run it correctly.

No one wants Michael Huff right now, not just us. His interest has been non-existent league wide to this point.
Winning builds team chemistry. Your post is full of assumption. Huff has made huge improvements since the last time Rob coached him. The issue with Huff right now is supposedly he's asking for a lot.

[M.O.T.H.]

If you're changing things schematically with a new coordinator. You should trust his judgement. He has a specific system...he knows who's right for it, and who isnt. So I would certainly value his opinion on the matter. Huff's ability may have nothing to with it, either. Perhaps they dont even have a good relationship. I dont know.

My knowledge of Dallas' non interest in Huff, starts and ends with the "experts" or insiders who have said just that. And it doesnt sound like money has anything to do with it. But if it does...I wouldnt blame them, if he was seeking Weddle money. If I had my way, I would have tried to sign Huff and Elam, like I posted before FA started. But that's only if Huff was reasonably priced. I'd certainly agree that he has the most upside left of any of the remaining safeties. That doesnt mean his short lived success would continue in Dallas, however. But anyway, if the reason for our non interest was the fact that Ryan just doesnt want him. So be it.

[D-Unit]

If you're changing things schematically with a new coordinator. You should trust his judgement. He has a specific system...he knows who's right for it, and who isnt. So I would certainly value his opinion on the matter. Huff's ability may have nothing to with it, either. Perhaps they dont even have a good relationship. I dont know.

My knowledge of Dallas' non interest in Huff, starts and ends with the "experts" or insiders who have said just that. And it doesnt sound like money has anything to do with it. But if it does...I wouldnt blame them, if he was seeking Weddle money. If I had my way, I would have tried to sign Huff and Elam, like I posted before FA started. But that's only if Huff was reasonably priced. I'd certainly agree that he has the most upside left of any of the remaining safeties. That doesnt mean his short lived success would continue in Dallas, however. But anyway, if the reason for our non interest was the fact that Ryan just doesnt want him. So be it.
I haven't heard anything from Ryan or the Cowboys saying they don't like Huff. Only that there is a lot of "bait" out there on several safeties. Huff may be included. I don't that. I don't know what sources you're going off of either though. Seems you just harp on how the Cowboys don't like Huff and they are bonkers for Elam yet neither have signed with us or anyone else yet.

As for schematics and stuff... yeah, that's why we just rushed to sign Ball. He totally fits that. Woo hoo! :/

Don't get me wrong... I totally agree with you... Cowboys management obviously does not. lol.

[LonghornsLegend]

You have any links MOTH? I just haven't heard that either, I've only read someplace we weren't on the same page with his asking price on his deal. Nothing about him as a player, or not being a fit. He's a perfect fit, and I'll more then likely continue to feel that way unless I read otherwise.


Elam would just be alot cheaper and he's familiar with what were doing on defense.

[M.O.T.H.]

Just read what's out there. Dallas contacted Elam as soon as FA started, his addition just makes too much sense not too happen. Especially with this "non urgency" we've seen to sign a safety. He knows the system. The longer we wait, the more likely Elam will be an addition. He's one guy that doesnt need to be schooled on the ins and outs of Ryan's defense. Luckily, that's actually an advantage for us.

As for Huff...a day after FA started, articles/tidbits were popping up that Dallas had no interest in Huff what so ever. And considering their apparent willingness to pursue pricier FAs, it just comes off as odd that they wouldnt even consider adding Huff. Obviously you wont hear anything from Ryan's mouth saying he doesnt want the guy...but everyone else is saying we're not interested via rotoworld updates, which come from a variety of outside sources.

All the info I've read is readily available to everyone else as well. lol. If you follow the info available, it's easy to come to the conclusion that Dallas is still in contact with Elam and they havent shown any interest in Huff. And somewhere the media received a lead that they arent interested in him at all. I can only guy by what's out there. And that's what they're saying.