Dallas Cowboys Discussion

[LonghornsLegend]

I've seen good Jason Garret this game. Sceen passes to keep pressure off Romo, staying with the run, short drop backs, QB roll outs. When is the last time we consistently were putting Romo on those? Lol. We've been screaming about that for a long time now.


We need to really close this game out strong, I don't want to come out not being aggressive because we know they will, and it's a game in the 4th quarter.

[M.O.T.H.]

Doesn't always work that way but I missed the start. Thanks for mentioning it.

In this case, I'd say it does. The fact that they'd turn to Robinson, despite the fact that he's been on the roster for two weeks, compared to Oggs' three years...it kind of says a lot.

Not like any of us are complaining, though. It's not like Robinson or Oggs are ST guys, either. They should just cut Ogletree.

[Trogdor]

3-1 with all the injuries is like miraculous.

I loved the Rob Ryan signing I NEVER in a million years expected the transformation to be this quick. Our defense is fan-freaking-tastic. Romo has been surgical and Garrett's 'next man up' slogan has worked.

Not seeing Wade Phillip's 'someone stole my lollipop' face multiple times a game is refreshing too.

[M.O.T.H.]

I've seen good Jason Garret this game. Sceen passes to keep pressure off Romo, staying with the run, short drop backs, QB roll outs. When is the last time we consistently were putting Romo on those? Lol. We've been screaming about that for a long time now.


We need to really close this game out strong, I don't want to come out not being aggressive because we know they will, and it's a game in the 4th quarter.

I actually like the fact that we tried a goaline run on 4th down. But I'd still like to see us finally mix in the TEs down there.

[LonghornsLegend]

I loved the Rob Ryan signing I NEVER in a million years expected the transformation to be this quick. Our defense is fan-freaking-tastic. Romo has been surgical and Garrett's 'next man up' slogan has worked.

Not seeing Wade Phillip's 'someone stole my lollipop' face multiple times a game is refreshing too.

Rob Ryan made so much sense that alot of us didn't think it would happen. He's done a superb job, and even the DE's are being productive. I can't wait for Hatcher to be ready to go after the bye, but Ryan is getting the most out of alot of our young guys on that side of the ball.


I hope he stays a few more years when we have some CB depth and a gamer at Safety.

[yanksknicks]

I actually like the fact that we tried a goaline run on 4th down. But I'd still like to see us finally mix in the TEs down there.

On goal line be nice to see some misdirection and TE throws across the grain plus some guards pulling too.

Our play book inside the 5 is pretty dry. Slants on man. WR/TE sitting down in the zones. Run ball up the middle or a pitch. Now with Dez the back shoulder throw too. 5 plays.

No QB sneak or draw. No Tackle eligible. No TE fake block and slipping into the end zone. Etc...

[yanksknicks]

27 - 3 would look sweet.

[M.O.T.H.]

Lissemore is an athlete. Yesssir.

[yanksknicks]

Carpenter not so bad in a 4-3

[D-Unit]

Look at Robinson go! hahaha

[M.O.T.H.]

115 yards for Laurent Robinson.

[LonghornsLegend]

Lissemore is an athlete. Yesssir.

Lol he needs to be on the field more.

[LonghornsLegend]

Does Alan Ball play for the Lions? Jesus. Think we maybe found a matchup we like?

[yanksknicks]

Seeing Lissemore run reminded me of seeing Larry fat arse Allen chasing down a LB in 1994 after a turnover.

It was like -- holy crap!!!!!

Dude looked like an athletic TE..... what was his 40??

[E-Man]

Lissemore has been looking good all year when he got time. Nothing spectacular, but he penetrates well so others go make plays. The DE rotation is looking fantastic.

[M.O.T.H.]

I gotta hand it to Garrett. That is a sexy play.

[M.O.T.H.]

Seeing Lissemore run reminded me of seeing Larry fat arse Allen chasing down a LB in 1994 after a turnover.

It was like -- holy crap!!!!!

Dude looked like an athletic TE..... what was his 40??

His athleticism is what got him drafted. He ran in the 4.8s at like 300 lbs. Which is flying.

[yanksknicks]

Is that a TD guys? Dunno the rule but he looked out.

[FreshBoy!]

Wow @ that playcall...*thumbs up JG*

[yanksknicks]

His athleticism is what got him drafted. He ran in the 4.8s at like 300 lbs. Which is flying.

Now that is my goal line 3rd TE or tackle eligible.

[yanksknicks]

Garrett needs to know that. Bad use of a challenge. Looked out to me too.

[M.O.T.H.]

Look how ******* easy. Do that more Garrett...that's what I've wanted.

[FreshBoy!]

Great playcall on the ogletree fake reverse.

[yanksknicks]

MB got some slobber knockers. IR for him please.

[E-Man]

Garrett didn't bizarro it up there. Cool ass play to Ogletree, then a routine pass to the guy with the best hands on your team.

[yanksknicks]

Look how ******* easy. Do that more Garrett...that's what I've wanted.

what I have been saying, a little more mis-direction.

Romo to sit start of the fourth I hope.

[BRAVEHEART]

GG Dallas fans, Romo did the damn thing, and Ware has probably made Backus soak his pants in piss. Hopefully people get off Romo's dick now, dude is playing well, and playing while hurt.

[yanksknicks]

Does Jerry charge a fee for camping outside of the stadium???

[LonghornsLegend]

How soon are we pulling Romo, Felix & Dez? That's the only thing that could put a damper on today.

[yanksknicks]

How soon are we pulling Felix & Dez? That's the only thing that could put a damper on today.

All injured guys should be pulled by the 4th if we have a 3 possesion lead.

[M.O.T.H.]

I'm surprised at how healthy Romo looks today, actually. He's moving around great. The rib had more of an effect on his mobility than accuracy, but he doesnt look slowed at all.

[FreshBoy!]

Mike Jenkins is playing great...

[M.O.T.H.]

Big Mike. Nice.

[yanksknicks]

Tony, WTF????

Always throws pick to the right side. Always.

90% of his picks are on that type of throw.

[M.O.T.H.]

That was terribly underthrown in any case. That wouldnt even have reached Dez.

[crisco0710]

lol... Carpenter.

Talking about pulling Romo? The Lions were down by 20 last week with the same amount of time left and won.

[E-Man]

WTF was that? Charity from Romo to Barbie?

[yanksknicks]

We need to go into a shell and take clock -- now we have to play two more drives hard....

[yanksknicks]

This team and mistakes. They hate prosperity.

As I said .... incredible.

Again, to the right side.

[FreshBoy!]

This team and mistakes. They hate prosperity.

hahahaa well said.....

Let's see if they can milk some clock here.

[pocketaces]

And whats up with that Brady guy? 4 picks last week! He must really suck....

[M.O.T.H.]

Felix hurt, Robinson hurt. Oh joy.

[LonghornsLegend]

Awesome. Felix banged up.

[FreshBoy!]

Got damnit....

[D-Unit]

This team and mistakes. They hate prosperity.

As I said .... incredible.
Tony Turnover. Grrrrreeeeat.

[TheFinisher]

Why can't we just put a team away? Come on Romo... *sigh*.

[LonghornsLegend]

never a dull moment being a Cowboy fan......smh

[D-Unit]

Where is Dez? Why is Robinson being targeted so much like that?

[Trogdor]

Tony Turnover. Grrrrreeeeat.

Bad throw. HORRIBLE route running. Robinson saw he was pressed and didn't even try to complete his route until after the throw. Disgraceful effort and a horrible decision to throw that.

[E-Man]

Maybe they should stop throwing that comeback to the right side.

[Trogdor]

Maybe they should stop throwing that comeback to the right side.

That's the thing. That was supposed to be a slant. Robinson did a disgustingly lazy job running the route. Tell you what. Our WRs run 100000% less crisp routes this year.

[M.O.T.H.]

Open up a damn hole. That was all Felix.

[FreshBoy!]

Milk this got dam clock!!!

[D-Unit]

If Aikman knows "KILL KILL" means the call is being changed, then every defense in the NFL should know that too... so why isn't the terminology changed? lol.

[Trogdor]

If Aikman knows "KILL KILL" means the call is being changed, then every defense in the NFL should know that too... so why isn't the terminology changed? lol.

Surprised he can even remember. I bet it was on his teleprompter.

[FreshBoy!]

HUGE penalty..LET"S GOOOOO Boys...close em out!

[D-Unit]

Thank Suh very much! :D

[Trogdor]

For a defense that can't stop anything thus far Schwartz sure things highly of himself. Perhaps focusing on the game would help him.

[M.O.T.H.]

If Aikman knows "KILL KILL" means the call is being changed, then every defense in the NFL should know that too... so why isn't the terminology changed? lol.

Every team in the league does this.

[M.O.T.H.]

More shotgun. ugh.

Ogletree has horrible field awareness.

[Trogdor]

More shotgun. ugh.

Ogletree has horrible field awareness.

I think he'll be the guy cut when we get Austin healthy. No reason to stay.

Btw: LOL on Suh kicking a trash can. Perhaps if he learns the NFL rulebook he won't screw his team.

[FreshBoy!]

Boys need a stop here...right now...Put this game away.

[M.O.T.H.]

Yeah Calvin Johnson is good.

[FreshBoy!]

Yep.....

Here we go Offense....let's go down this field.

[yanksknicks]

This game should be 37 - 10.

But Tony Turnover 30-24.

Incredible.

[FreshBoy!]

Ehh I'll blame Tony for one INT...the 2nd was all Robinson.

[Trogdor]

This game should be 37 - 10.

But Tony Turnover 30-24.

Incredible.

Team game. I credit Tony with one INT and Robinson with one. Injuries hurt and not having Miles and Dez on the field is killing us.

[LonghornsLegend]

I can't believe this ****

[FreshBoy!]

alan ball with a huge holding call...

[M.O.T.H.]

alan ball with a huge holding call...

I wouldnt say huge...but it sucks. Horrible field position, in either case. Ball on the 2 compared to the 4.

[yanksknicks]

Romo is Romo. Our only hope is when he does his self-destruction we are up big like today.

[FreshBoy!]

I just hate being backed up with this O-line....

[yanksknicks]

ANd I do blame Garrett for not running the ball on each INT.

Carpenter was on first down. The other was one 3rd and 2 --- and today we have been able to get the yards for the most part.

[M.O.T.H.]

The second INT was a good play by Houston, really.

[M.O.T.H.]

Sean Lee, that was ******* terrible.

[M.O.T.H.]

What the **** was that? OMG

[D-Unit]

How terrible is our QB?

[FreshBoy!]

Gomer Pile Stirkes again.

[yanksknicks]

Romo is an idiot. He just is.

You can never be very good when you are that sloppy.

[D-Unit]

All Garrett needs to do is run...

[M.O.T.H.]

I dont know why we were passing to begin with.

[yanksknicks]

All Garrett needs to do is run...

Sorry but Romo is an idiot above and beyond everything.

I am so sick of him..

[Trogdor]

We need a god-damn OC. No reason JG does the SAME thing that the Vikes did to allow Detroit back in it. Run. The. Damn. Ball.

[M.O.T.H.]

This is sad...Dallas could realistically be 4-0 or 0-4 this year. Every game is nerve racking.

[D-Unit]

So we've seen this all too often.... Tony will say this loss stings... he'll say it's his fault... he'll say he'll learn from it... and then we'll see it happen again and again.

[M.O.T.H.]

This is gotta be a Calvin Johnson fade.

[M.O.T.H.]

There's Frank Walker.

[D-Unit]

Well hey... at least that TD was great for my fantasy team. :)

[D-Unit]

F this stupid ass QB.

Pass to the sidelines!

[crisco0710]

Romo just wants to have 3 straight 4th quarter come back wins.

[Trogdor]

Silver lining. If early game Romo returns we could rollercoaster our emotions into a victory.

[D-Unit]

HELLOOOOO WE HAVE NO TIME OUTS!!!!! lol

[M.O.T.H.]

Tyron Smith got destroyed.

[FreshBoy!]

yep......that's game.

[E-Man]

There is no defense for Romo. He gave this game away like he did in NY.

[crisco0710]

Romo threw it to the safety valve every throw on that drive. I doubt he even looked down field once on that drive.

[D-Unit]

HIGH FIVES ALL AROUND!!! woooo!!

[E-Man]

This is sad...Dallas could realistically be 4-0 or 0-4 this year. Every game is nerve racking.
I'm sick of that ****. What a waste of a huge lead.

[D-Unit]

Washington won and Philly lost.

[dsc1600]

Ridiculous game, worse than the Jets game. I think I am done with this team. As long as number 9 is playing qb that is.

[D-Unit]

I honestly think the worst player on the team is Romo.

[M.O.T.H.]

Washington won and Philly lost.

Philly is terrible, it's pretty funny.

At least we should be getting some guys back for our Patriots loss.

[Trogdor]

Offense is undisciplined, our OC is too smart for his own good, and our QB is over-confident about his accuracy. Rob Ryan has to be sick knowing he has to carry Jason Garrett's offense all year.

Disgusted. Felix Jones not knowing what down it is. Romo throwing down the middle of the field with no timeouts. Garrett passing the entire second half despite nursing a 24 point lead. Complete lack of discipline. Love the attitude Garrett brings but he needs an Offensive Coordinator because he is INCAPABLE.

[TheFinisher]

Romo is a ******* joke.

[D-Unit]

Offense is undisciplined, our OC is too smart for his own good, and our QB is over-confident about his accuracy. Rob Ryan has to be sick knowing he has to carry Jason Garrett's offense all year.

Disgusted. Felix Jones not knowing what down it is. Romo throwing down the middle of the field with no timeouts. Garrett passing the entire second half despite nursing a 24 point lead. Complete lack of discipline. Love the attitude Garrett brings but he needs an Offensive Coordinator because he is INCAPABLE.
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With their first pick in Round 1, the Dallas Cowboys select...

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[LonghornsLegend]

I honestly think the worst player on the team is Romo.

It crossed my mind today if he's getting paid to throw games. I mean, come on. There is no way he should be as good as he is early on, and throw ridiculous picks like today and vs the Jets. Those are the only reasons we lose those games, that we were up HUGE in.


It's not even like these picks are contested for the most part, they are just stupid stupid plays. Un ******* believeable that we still have to put up with this ****.

[BRAVEHEART]

GG Dallas fans, Romo did the damn thing, and Ware has probably made Backus soak his pants in piss. Hopefully people get off Romo's dick now, dude is playing well, and playing while hurt.

I just want to apologize to yall. I jinxed the game. Said GG to the Vikes when they were up 20 last week, and that's when the Lions came roaring back. I also take back what I said about Romo, two of his picks were straight gimme's (especially the last one, no excuse for that, especially because he was playing good in the first half).

If Miles and Dez were able to play, Cowboys would've steamrolled for sure.

[M.O.T.H.]

It crossed my mind today if he's getting paid to throw games. I mean, come on. There is no way he should be as good as he is early on, and throw ridiculous picks like today and vs the Jets. Those are the only reasons we lose those games, that we were up HUGE in.


It's not even like these picks are contested for the most part, they are just stupid stupid plays. Un ******* believeable that we still have to put up with this ****.

He's having trouble against deep zones. Trap coverages. He sees a wide open target, on a lot of these picks. He needs to identify these coverages better.

Some of these underneath zone coverages as well. It's his achilles heal.

[D-Unit]

Oh and BTW, Newman is as bad as Ball.

[Trogdor]

To be completely honest guys. It's going to take a while but seriously step back and ask does Kitna or any random off the street QB put us up 24? No. Romo built us up and let us down. It sure does feel worse than going 0-7 even though before the season started 2-2 looked fine with our schedule. -_-

Bye week and fix our injuries and offense and bring our A game against the Patsies.

[M.O.T.H.]

Oh and BTW, Newman is as bad as Ball.

He had to cover Calvin Johnson the majority of the time.

[D-Unit]

He had to cover Calvin Johnson the majority of the time.
He's also getting paid $8M this year. He did absolutely nothing.

[M.O.T.H.]

Newman did fine...it took Calvin forever to get going in this game.

If Ball covered Johnson, records would be broken.

[D-Unit]

Newman did fine...it took Calvin forever to get going in this game.

If Ball covered Johnson, records would be broken.
Don't kid yourself. Newman wasn't the only one covering Calvin. Jenkins was doing a good job against him. Newman always gets too much credit. I don't get it. For the amount of money he's getting... he's a worse investment than Ball...and Ball sucks even if he was free.

[Trogdor]

-_- Still perplexed as to how you can average 4.2 yards per carry and be up by 24 points and not run it down their throats. Even when we brought out big sets and made it obvious we were still gaining yards. It's extremely easy to blame Romo as 2 of those 3 were bad throws but why was he in the shotgun throwing the ball in the first place. Garrett is a genius in schemes and man-management but a piss poor playcalling and it is KILLING us. Give someone else the duties and focus on scheming and adjustments. When you are winning and well ahead... Run. The. Damn. Ball. Fundamental football.

[M.O.T.H.]

Newman isnt worth the money for sure. But as far as production...you can do a lot worse. He didnt even play bad. The defense didnt lose this game.

Romo's turnovers were obviously really bad today and you have to hand it to the Lions defenders on those returns.

[dsc1600]

Let's not try to find other reasons why we lost today. Agree Newman is overpaid, but the D played well enough to win today. Detroit is going to get theirs, holding them to 20 offensive points is good enough. Also was screaming at my tv after the first int, and the play call. But, this one is on the qb, period. The worst one of the 3 was the last one. Off his back foot, he has to know better.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Sorry about the game. Helps our division, but god I hate collapses and we have them too. But damn, I thought you guys had this. Hard to come turnovers and turnovers that yield to points.

[D-Unit]

Let's not try to find other reasons why we lost today. Agree Newman is overpaid, but the D played well enough to win today. Detroit is going to get theirs, holding them to 20 offensive points is good enough. Also was screaming at my tv after the first int, and the play call. But, this one is on the qb, period. The worst one of the 3 was the last one. Off his back foot, he has to know better.
Oh it's 100% blamed on Romo and Garrett. No doubt about that. Not trying to share the blame as much as just express frustration over how this team is run overall from top to bottom.

[TheFinisher]

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With their first pick in Round 1, the Dallas Cowboys select...

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That would be a happiest day of my life.

Unfortunately Jerry has a love affair with Tony and will not give up on him. His support of Romo is the exact definition of insanity... doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.

It kills me as a fan watching this take place.

[D-Unit]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=C6C981E7-D513-94AB-21C8E4B712AB70E8

Two donkeys saying the same things yet NEVER learning from it.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/multimedia_center.cfm?id=C6C981E7-D513-94AB-21C8E4B712AB70E8

Two donkeys saying the same things yet NEVER learning from it.

LOL. Maybe limit what he can do once the game is online. How does one go about solving this problem? Did anyone run the wrong route or was it a bad pass?

[FreshBoy!]

Passes...plural. I can chalk one up to Robinson not getting inside the CB...the other two passes were just typical careless Romo....throwing off his back foot, throwing outs with bracket coverage...*smh*

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Passes...plural. I can chalk one up to Robinson not getting inside the CB...the other two passes were just typical careless Romo....throwing off his back foot, throwing outs with bracket coverage...*smh*

Well if that's the case the loss can be blamed on him. I know all week the media will be on his case. I kind of agree when you look back at the Jets game and now today. Maybe you guys need to run more to take it out of his hands.. I know.. I know the HC doesn't agree. What's the alternative? Romo isn't good so new QB time? Is that really an option?

[FreshBoy!]

I'm still behind Romo...we're up because of him..It's just that gift and a curse ********. There's no reason to have a 24-3 lead and Romo & JG have a brain fart on us. No reason.

[yanksknicks]

Tony Turnover loves second place.

Tony best Lead Actor is collapses. Garrett Best Supporting.

[Macarthur]

To be completely honest guys. It's going to take a while but seriously step back and ask does Kitna or any random off the street QB put us up 24? No. Romo built us up and let us down. It sure does feel worse than going 0-7 even though before the season started 2-2 looked fine with our schedule. -_-

Bye week and fix our injuries and offense and bring our A game against the Patsies.

This is the ultimate in frustration for cowboys fans. Great talent and playmaking ability, but you have to live with brain dead spells.

Brett favre.

I'm a big Garrett fan but how many times does this have to happen before garrett takes this into consideration in his game plan?

[crisco0710]

Where did Dez go in the 2nd half? Is it that easy to just start an argument with him and he'll disappear? I don't think he had a throw his way after he got into with that DB.

[yanksknicks]

Again, this team can not stand prosperity.

We can all see Romo throwing another game away but let me add a few things ...

Felix running out of bounds.

Dez once again disappears. How many TD does he have in second halfs? Zero in his career.

Defense does not get a big plays in the 4th.

Did DeMarcus get a sack?

Safety play on Calvin.

Abandoning the running game when you are going at a 4.2 clip.

....... ParcellsClone may not play to lose but no f*ing way this happens on a ParcellsClone team twice in one season, let alone first four game.

U take the ball out of Romo's hands and run it every down except for roll outs and screens

[LonghornsLegend]

Tony is a veteran QB now, not a young guy just thrown in there anymore. There is no excuse for him giving up leads this big in the 2nd half of games twice so far, that's his job to not give up those huge leads, and it's like he tries his hardest to make sure it happens.


We also didn't throw at Dez much so I can't really put that all onto him, you just don't know if something got tight again or what, but if were not even trying who knows. If we didn't even attempt to throw him another TD fade at the goal line then I don't know, seems like more of a play-calling issue.

[D-Unit]

I'll tell you why Dez didn't get targeted in the 2nd half... it's because Tony got tunnel vision on Robinson. He's like a rookie QB... once he finds the WR he gets in a groove with, then that's the only target he sees. He'll throw it to Witten in between, but all other WRs are invisible. He did it with Austin against SF. He did it to Dez against NYJ. ...and today he did it with Robinson. He'll throw it to the guy even when he's not open... and even if other WRs are more open. He's just not a mentally smart QB.

Garrett is also still a big problem in his OC abilities. He's a great HC... but he's just GOT to let go of the OC responsibilities. He's been called out for this in the past and the same rings true today... HIS OFFENSE IS TOO EASILY PREDICTABLE. Defenses know when we're gonna run, when we're gonna pass and when we're gonna "KILL KILL" the play.

The next time we bring Josh Brent in the game as a fullback, I'd love to see us pass. Everyone in the whole damn world knew where we were gonna go on that 4th and goal. Things need to change fundamentally with this team.

[D-Unit]

Again, this team can not stand prosperity.

We can all see Romo throwing another game away but let me add a few things ...

Felix running out of bounds.

Dez once again disappears. How many TD does he have in second halfs? Zero in his career.

Defense does not get a big plays in the 4th.

Did DeMarcus get a sack?

Safety play on Calvin.

Abandoning the running game when you are going at a 4.2 clip.

....... ParcellsClone may not play to lose but no f*ing way this happens on a ParcellsClone team twice in one season, let alone first four game.

U take the ball out of Romo's hands and run it every down except for roll outs and screens
This team is just mentally weak. Tony (obvious on every level), Felix (not understanding the game situation), Dez (too emotional), Garrett (goes into panic attack mode and thinks he needs to pass pass... and pass some more), Free (thinks he can relax now that he got paid)....

Just weak ass team offensively. Kudos to the D for continuing to overachieve. Any front 7 playing with a secondary that includes Alan Ball, Frank Walker, Barry Church and Terence Newman playing at the same time gets a high grade considering what they are able to accomplish.

[crisco0710]

Again, this team can not stand prosperity.

We can all see Romo throwing another game away but let me add a few things ...

Felix running out of bounds.

Dez once again disappears. How many TD does he have in second halfs? Zero in his career.

Defense does not get a big plays in the 4th.

Did DeMarcus get a sack?

Safety play on Calvin.

Abandoning the running game when you are going at a 4.2 clip.

....... ParcellsClone may not play to lose but no f*ing way this happens on a ParcellsClone team twice in one season, let alone first four game.

U take the ball out of Romo's hands and run it every down except for roll outs and screens

He caught two td passes against the Giants in the 4th quarter last year when Romo got hurt.

[E-Man]

Any word on Sensabaugh's injury? I seriously can't deal with seeing Alan Ball starting again. I'll pull a Tonya Harding and hire someone to hurt his ass if I have to.

[M.O.T.H.]

Come on D...every team uses audible signals like our kill signal. Ummmm....the Lions use the same terminology. It doesnt matter if they know you're changing the play at the line. It's a benefit to the offense anyway, it's not like the Lions know the alternative playcall. Seriously...every single team in football does this. I have no idea what you're getting at.

[M.O.T.H.]

Romo gets the vast majority of the blame and Garrett deserves some hate.

But you know what really hurt, too? Tyron Smith shockingly getting thrown by Willie Young. He picked him up off the ground. And it lead to the game clinching sack on that last drive.

I mean, we should have never been in that situation, anyway. But that was pretty damn shocking to see at the end of the game. Smith is human afterall, he was playing a good game before that, though.

[D-Unit]

Come on D...every team uses audible signals like our kill signal. Ummmm....the Lions use the same terminology. It doesnt matter if they know you're changing the play at the line. It's a benefit to the offense anyway, it's not like the Lions know the alternative playcall. Seriously...every single team in football does this. I have no idea what you're getting at.
That was one little thing, not my main supporting evidence behind the offense being predictable. While, I think it's dumb and I know some other teams do it, who is it really foolin'? I mean c'mon... I'd try to be more secretive about what I'm calling, but whatevers...don't single that out. I think the offense is STILL all too predictable and when you combine that with Garrett's poor playcalling and his panic mode passing, we get the classic meltdowns that we continue to see under Garrett's regime.

[D-Unit]

Romo gets the vast majority of the blame and Garrett deserves some hate.

But you know what really hurt, too? Tyron Smith shockingly getting thrown by Willie Young. He picked him up off the ground. And it lead to the game clinching sack on that last drive.

I mean, we should have never been in that situation, anyway. But that was pretty damn shocking to see at the end of the game. Smith is human afterall, he was playing a good game before that, though.
I'll tell you how much that hurt.... 0.001%. C'mon man... the game was WAAAAAAY out of hand at that point. Even without the sack, the team was doomed. Romo was wasting tons of time throwing short and up the middle (like that was gonna work lol). No one knew Willie Young was even in the game until that play. Smith lost that battle, but easily won the war between them on the day.

[M.O.T.H.]

I'll tell you how much that hurt.... 0.001%. C'mon man... the game was WAAAAAAY out of hand at that point. Even without the sack, the team was doomed. Romo was wasting tons of time throwing short and up the middle (like that was gonna work lol). No one knew Willie Young was even in the game until that play. Smith lost that battle, but easily won the war between them on the day.

I should have worded it better. I didnt want it to be taken that way. I even mentioned that we shouldnt have even been in that situation. It was more a cherry on top of things, because it's so unexpected to see the guy get thrown through the air. Obviously, I wouldnt blame this loss on Tyron...I was just saying, it was pretty shocking.

[M.O.T.H.]

But in regard to Romo finding Witten over the middle. There was still plenty of the time for that type of pass. They were picking up easy yards. We had a minute and a half to score. We were at midfield because of this strategy, with plenty of time on the clock to get things done. I have no problem with them doing this at all. The only thing I dont like about Romo in these situations, is that he's one of the types that almost refuses to spike the ball. He plays it exactly the same way as say Drew Brees does. A lot of pro QBs need work in these situations.

[D-Unit]

But in regard to Romo finding Witten over the middle. There was still plenty of the time for that type of pass. They were picking up easy yards. We had a minute and a half to score. We were at midfield because of this strategy, with plenty of time on the clock to get things done. I have no problem with them doing this at all. The only thing I dont like about Romo in these situations, is that he's one of the types that almost refuses to spike the ball.
Maybe once during the drive... fine... Twice...ehhh...ok, maybe if you're on the other side of the field. But constantly??? Pshh.. No. Not without time outs. Even under college rules where the time stops between 1st downs, it'd be a tough task. In the Pros... no way. You do that, then you earn yourself a shot at a hail mary...nothing more. This loss has just kept me in a disgusted mood all day. I hate Romo and I hate Garrett as an OC.

[MetSox17]

Romo shaving points isnt such a crazy idea anymore after watching today's game. I cant exlain how else someone can be amazing one half and downright putrid the next.

[yanksknicks]

Romo shaving points isnt such a crazy idea anymore after watching today's game. I cant exlain how else someone can be amazing one half and downright putrid the next.

Romo is a cash poker player who goes up $10,000, loses $5,000 on one hand, and then instantly goes all in playing behind the blind with a 2 7 off suit.

Dude, you are up $5K! Walk away. Even better fold the hand!!!!!!!!!

Tony Turnover simply doubles down on failure and his Coach does not stop him from doing so with IDIOTIC PLAY CALLING.

[bigbluedefense]

I'm a big Romo supporter but...man, when the guy self destructs, he does it bigger and badder than anyone I've seen in awhile. And it seems to always happen when the microscope is on him.

Maybe Deion is right, maybe Romo is what he is, but I'm still a fan of the guy. As harsh as it sounds, I think he'd play better for another team bc he wouldn't be scrutinized as much as he is as a Cowboy qb.

But I still think the guy is a very good qb. He just does this every now and then and you gotta live with it. He's very much like Favre in that sense.

[TheFinisher]

The big problem here is that not only do we have a QB that will make mistakes to lose you the game, but his HC calls plays that encourage it. It's a recipe for disaster. Tony's development was doomed from the moment Garrett came on board. If we still had a coach here like Parcells who would put Tony is his place and kept a leash on him, we would not see these mistakes. Instead he and his buddy Garrett have a stranglehold on the team and wanted to turn this into a "Romo Friendly Offense"... meaning Romo can do whatever the **** he wants.

They bring the worst out of each other.

[FreshBoy!]

Dez once again disappears. How many TD does he have in second halfs? Zero in his career.


That's not true...Dude single handedly brought the Boys back in that Giants game last year. He's been disappearing but I don't know if it's because he's shutdown by the defense. If you noticed the boys stopped moving the ball after L. Robinson got hurt...he was hobbled, allowing more coverage to be rolled over to Dez.

[LonghornsLegend]

I'm a big Romo supporter but...man, when the guy self destructs, he does it bigger and badder than anyone I've seen in awhile. And it seems to always happen when the microscope is on him.

Maybe Deion is right, maybe Romo is what he is, but I'm still a fan of the guy. As harsh as it sounds, I think he'd play better for another team bc he wouldn't be scrutinized as much as he is as a Cowboy qb.

But I still think the guy is a very good qb. He just does this every now and then and you gotta live with it. He's very much like Favre in that sense.

I can live with mistakes, that's totally fine, but there is no excuse for blowing leads that huge when your as good of a QB as you are. I've never, in my life seen something so ridiculous.


How many pick 6's does Barbie have in his career? Chris Houston? Come on man...These guys are bums that were picked apart all game long, with a nearly flawless game from Romo but then he decided to make as many huge mistakes as he could in a short span.


If I remember right both of our losses were historic losses for our team. We should be 4-0 right now. You can come up with a ton of reasons for why we aren't a good football team but if Romo can throw away a 20 point lead in 1 quarter by himself we never stand a chance.


Now watch, he'll throw for 5 TD's and we beat NE out of the bye, then lose to Seattle after a ton of turnovers. I can live with mistakes here and there for trying to make plays, but I don't think even Favre was chucking the ball around giving games away.


Look at his INT's vs the Jets and Lions. Looks like he was literally throwing the ball to the defense and not trying. Barbie moved to that area when the ball was snapped and it was still lobbed right over there as soft as can be. I've defended Romo a ton, but I'm ready to move on a find a QBotf whoever it is.


There are some issues with Romo, and I swear I'd have an easier time believing he was throwing games/covering spreads then actually losing because he's a bad QB. Watching his throws in the 1st half, and 2nd half of that game are night and day.


In hindsight we should have put Kitna in after halftime. Maybe he can be our "closer" at QB after Tony runs the score up.

[Macarthur]

The big problem here is that not only do we have a QB that will make mistakes to lose you the game, but his HC calls plays that encourage it. It's a recipe for disaster. Tony's development was doomed from the moment Garrett came on board. If we still had a coach here like Parcells who would put Tony is his place and kept a leash on him, we would not see these mistakes. Instead he and his buddy Garrett have a stranglehold on the team and wanted to turn this into a "Romo Friendly Offense"... meaning Romo can do whatever the **** he wants.

They bring the worst out of each other.

This.

Romo is Brett Favre. He's going to make plays that take your breath away and he's going to make plays that kick you so hard in the crotch, it takes your breath away.

The difference is that Favre had a guy like Holmgren to stay on his rear and keep him somewhat grounded. Garrett plays to Romo's strengths yet doesn't do much to minimize his weaknesses.

That 4th quarter should have been runs, screens, draws etc. I know you can't just shut down the offense, but there are throws that can be made that are less risk.

Romo is certainly at fault, but I put almost as much on Garrett for not working around his QB's flaws.

[LonghornsLegend]

Eh, you guys are right, but Romo isn't 22 years old. He's a leader and played long enough to know how to NOT blow 20 point leads. We shouldn't have to hold his hand through this.


I'll take some intentional grounding plays, whatever you have to do to not throw the ball away. It's like he has no regard for game situations, the score, anything a QB should.

[J-Mike88]

I'm a big Romo supporter but...man, when the guy self destructs, he does it bigger and badder than anyone I've seen in awhile. And it seems to always happen when the microscope is on him.
He's like a playoff-Favre.

As a die-hard Packer fan, we have emotional scars from that guy every single playoff season other than 1996 when Reggie White carried us to the title.

Favre would more-often-than-not come thru in the clutch of regular seasons, but Romo seems to always be in Favre-playoff-mode.

I like Tony a lot, living here in Dallas with unbiasedness. But I know exactly how you guys feel seeing him almost single-handedly throw games away.

Up 27-3 midway thru 3, that's gotta be a win. Run, play-action, run, safe-pass, etc. The Lions offense hadn't done anything.

And nice pathetic tackling on the Bobby Carpenter return. That Cowboys backup TE had a simple, easy chance to tackle him right away at about the 40 yard line. That's inexcusable.

The good thing for you guys is you're still just a game out of 1st in that division, and the Iggles are a laughable 1-3.

[J-Mike88]

The difference is that Favre had a guy like Holmgren to stay on his rear and keep him somewhat grounded. Garrett plays to Romo's strengths yet doesn't do much to minimize his weaknesses.
Only until the end of the 1997 season. People forget that. From the 98 season until his last with the Packers, 2007, he didn't have Holmgren.

Romo has blown some games in fireworks fashion, amazingly.
But Favre has done the same in playoff and NFC Championship games.
In overtimes.
Romo still has time.

But Detroit and Green Bay are younger, so who knows.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Did the media go after Brett though? I somehow think Brett can do that, but as long as he had a child like smile on his face, the media would give out a collective, "awwwww", and let it go. Romo plays for Dallas one of the popular franchises in the league. So now it seems every media person, and even cowboys ex players come out and bash him.

As an aside, it's interesting to hear ex cowboys lose their objectivity and unbias approach when talking about Dallas and Romo. How many ex players bashed Romo already? It's almost as if they keep their composure until this happens and then they let it fly.

As a rival it's fun to see, but just funny how that happens, yet when Brett did the same thing, it's ok. That's Brett being Brett. He did it with child like exuberence so it's all good.

[Macarthur]

Only until the end of the 1997 season. People forget that. From the 98 season until his last with the Packers, 2007, he didn't have Holmgren.

And how many SB's did Favre win after that?

Romo has blown some games in fireworks fashion, amazingly.
But Favre has done the same in playoff and NFC Championship games.
In overtimes.
Romo still has time.

But Detroit and Green Bay are younger, so who knows.

He's quickly running out of time.

[Macarthur]

Did the media go after Brett though? I somehow think Brett can do that, but as long as he had a child like smile on his face, the media would give out a collective, "awwwww", and let it go. Romo plays for Dallas one of the popular franchises in the league. So now it seems every media person, and even cowboys ex players come out and bash him.

One minor correction - Dallas the most 'polarizing' franchises in the league. The media loves to see the Cowboys fall on their face.

Not to take this a different direction, but I think much of the 'America's Team' hate is very unfair. I do not know a single Cowboys' fan that gives a crap about being 'America's Team'. They sell the most merchandise and get the best TV ratings. I get that, but the team doesn't want the distinction and I think most of the fans could care less. So I think those that dislike the Cowboys keep that moniker going more than the fans do, so that they can use that as a club to hit them over the head when they fail.

The reality is that we are now in a salary cap league. Dallas is on a level playing field with the other teams. It's not like a Yankee setup where their power and money are endless.

As an aside, it's interesting to hear ex cowboys lose their objectivity and unbias approach when talking about Dallas and Romo. How many ex players bashed Romo already? It's almost as if they keep their composure until this happens and then they let it fly.

I'm not sure I follow. Aikman has been critical - he just doesn't go off the deep end with obvious vitrol like a Jamie Dukes. There are some that you can simply tell they revel in the fact that they get to pile on. I think there's much more of an issue with media objectivity in that direction than former Cowboys in the other direction. Just last night Deion and Irvin both were not making excuses. They were very frustrated. As for Aikman, he rarely bashes anyone because he knows how difficult the position is. He will critique but he will not bash.


As a rival it's fun to see, but just funny how that happens, yet when Brett did the same thing, it's ok. That's Brett being Brett. He did it with child like exuberence so it's all good.

No question that Brett has been a media darling forever, as well as GB.

[LonghornsLegend]

I wonder if this is starting to get old with the players not named Romo. How about the defense? Tough to play when your giving them free points. I wonder how long they are gonna back him if he continues this.


Also I checked, these 2 collapses we had were historic, both times. Romo doesn't just find a way 2 lose games, he sets records in the process. I can't come up with a good explanation as to how 1 QB can set 2 franchise records for blowing leads, all in the same month.

[Macarthur]

I wonder if this is starting to get old with the players not named Romo. How about the defense? Tough to play when your giving them free points. I wonder how long they are gonna back him if he continues this.


Also I checked, these 2 collapses we had were historic, both times. Romo doesn't just find a way 2 lose games, he sets records in the process. I can't come up with a good explanation as to how 1 QB can set 2 franchise records for blowing leads, all in the same month.

Well, not to absolve Romo, but the defense did have a hand in this yesterday. If they mix in a stop in the 4th quarter, we're talking about Romo ALMOST giving the game away.

[LonghornsLegend]

I agree, we still had chances. But momentum in football can't be measured, and when you throw two back to back pick 6's in a row that give them life, and 14 pts, it's hard to say it's their fault. Calvin had did literally nothing before those plays, same for Stafford. Ironically after those plays they were lighting it up and we were shell shocked.

[TheFinisher]

The Defense can only do so much when the offense is trying their best to give the game away. We had back to back 3 and outs to start out the 4th Quarter. Our D was able to force a punt and then held Detroit to a FG after starting both drives on our side of the field.

They did everything you could ask for, then Romo throws the backbreaker INT with 4 minutes left on the first play of the series which gave Detroit the ball at our 40.

Our defense fought the entire game, they're a good unit. Garrett and Romo need to understand that as long as you don't lose the game on offense our defense will secure big leads.

[yanksknicks]

Someone made a good point which is the Offense made a very poor effort at tackling both Carpenter and Houston, including Romo. Add that to the lack of mental toughness issue. Angry Offensive Players don't let those two go in -- they seemed to be like "we have a big lead so biznez decision time."

[Macarthur]

I get what you are saying, but offensive guys don't practice tackling unless one or two are on special teams. That's why almost all of them looked like a fish out of water.

[TheMorningZoo]

Dallas reminds me of Notre Dame. Storied franchise/teams that the media loves when they are on top, and puts down when they are out of it.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Is the media or anyone talking about Jerry going to up to Romo, and Romo just walking away from him. I saw that on on nfl.com. Was there anything about that? He looked like he ripped his arm back and didn't want non of what Jerry was saying at that juncture. I am just curious.

[D-Unit]

Is the media or anyone talking about Jerry going to up to Romo, and Romo just walking away from him. I saw that on on nfl.com. Was there anything about that? He looked like he ripped his arm back and didn't want non of what Jerry was saying at that juncture. I am just curious.
I hope it gets blown up out of proportion. I need a war to rage between Jerry and Romo in order to get change. This can't keep happening.

[Trogdor]

He's like a playoff-Favre.

As a die-hard Packer fan, we have emotional scars from that guy every single playoff season other than 1996 when Reggie White carried us to the title.

Favre would more-often-than-not come thru in the clutch of regular seasons, but Romo seems to always be in Favre-playoff-mode.

Media has a lot to do with that. Romo has the 4th highest QB rating among active QBs. He's 4th ALL-TIME in yards per passing attempt. His completion percentage, turnover ratio, and TDs/pass are all better than Phillip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers (google if you don't believe me a rather lengthy article will dispel this brutal nonsense about Romo 'never' coming through in the clutch).

This game was two games for Romo. Excellent perfect passer followed by an overly risk taking one that used poor technique on top of it all. I am in complete agreement he takes the non-playcalling blame for this but the media spin on his 'clutchness' is out of hand.

[D-Unit]

Media has a lot to do with that. Romo has the 4th highest QB rating among active QBs. He's 4th ALL-TIME in yards per passing attempt. His completion percentage, turnover ratio, and TDs/pass are all better than Phillip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers (google if you don't believe me a rather lengthy article will dispel this brutal nonsense about Romo 'never' coming through in the clutch).

This game was two games for Romo. Excellent perfect passer followed by an overly risk taking one that used poor technique on top of it all. I am in complete agreement he takes the non-playcalling blame for this but the media spin on his 'clutchness' is out of hand.
I'd rather not google, but I have a hard time believing Rivers and Rogers are less careful with the ball than Tony Turnover. Don't believe the stats bro.

Am I the only one disturbed with that last drive? For as much as Garrett loves to pass, it seemed like he had NO IDEA what to do on that sequence. You'd think the guy was the ultimate pro...the brilliant Princeton kid with great passing schemes... and that he'd have the right mix of passing plays to open up receivers near the sidelines to save time off the clock. Instead it looked like Tony Romo impromtu act of panic and chaos (pass to his favorite target - Witten - wherever he is - which worse... was straight down the middle for short gains). SCREW THIS COORDINATOR!

Jason Garrett is a failure as an offensive coordinator. It's been the same thing since he's gotten here and nothing has changed. ...and the ULTIMATE unforgivable... He puts Romo (and this team) in position to fail.

[Macarthur]

Is the media or anyone talking about Jerry going to up to Romo, and Romo just walking away from him. I saw that on on nfl.com. Was there anything about that? He looked like he ripped his arm back and didn't want non of what Jerry was saying at that juncture. I am just curious.

I haven't heard anything and I've listened to the radio most of the day.

[LonghornsLegend]

This is gonna be a long a stressful season as a Cowboy fan. It was alot more fun last year losing by 30 right away, and preparing for a top 10 pick. Now I just read we had an NFL record of 9 games straight decided by 9 points or less, this one was 4 so still right there. 10 games in a row decided in the waning moments.

[D-Unit]

This is gonna be a long a stressful season as a Cowboy fan. It was alot more fun last year losing by 30 right away, and preparing for a top 10 pick. Now I just read we had an NFL record of 9 games straight decided by 9 points or less, this one was 4 so still right there. 10 games in a row decided in the waning moments.
I actually think our solution is pretty simple though. We're close, but not close enough.


WE NEED TO BUILD A DOMINANT OFFENSIVE LINE.

Everything else will fall into place.

[LonghornsLegend]

I actually think our solution is pretty simple though. We're close, but not close enough.


WE NEED TO BUILD A DOMINANT OFFENSIVE LINE.

Everything else will fall into place.

Yea, getting stuffed early on the goal line still came back to haunt us, I don't see that changing all year. Seems like we are a ways away. Depends how we feel about Nagy, Costa, and Arkin going forward I guess.


Wish I paid more attention to the game last night but I was depressed/raging. Gurode played Gaurd with Birk at C, always felt he was gonna kick over and be our guard before we parted ways.

[D-Unit]

Yea, getting stuffed early on the goal line still came back to haunt us, I don't see that changing all year. Seems like we are a ways away. Depends how we feel about Nagy, Costa, and Arkin going forward I guess.


Wish I paid more attention to the game last night but I was depressed/raging. Gurode played Gurode with Birk at C, always felt he was gonna kick over and be our guard before we parted ways.
I think Nagy and Costa are duds. I like what I saw of Arkin in the preseason, but I think he's at least 2 seasons of good development away from being able to start effectively.

I too thought Gurode would move to Guard before we'd let him go. Moreover, I thought we'd use the money we saved by cutting MB3, Roy, Bigg, Colombo, Gurode to bring in 1 or 2 impact players in FA. Instead we gave it to Spears and Scandrick. Can I get a "HELL YES!" on how that's panning out so far? It's such a joke isn't it?

[TheFinisher]

I'd rather not google, but I have a hard time believing Rivers and Rogers are less careful with the ball than Tony Turnover. Don't believe the stats bro.

Am I the only one disturbed with that last drive? For as much as Garrett loves to pass, it seemed like he had NO IDEA what to do on that sequence. You'd think the guy was the ultimate pro...the brilliant Princeton kid with great passing schemes... and that he'd have the right mix of passing plays to open up receivers near the sidelines to save time off the clock. Instead it looked like Tony Romo impromtu act of panic and chaos (pass to his favorite target - Witten - wherever he is - which worse... was straight down the middle for short gains). SCREW THIS COORDINATOR!

Jason Garrett is a failure as an offensive coordinator. It's been the same thing since he's gotten here and nothing has changed. ...and the ULTIMATE unforgivable... He puts Romo (and this team) in position to fail.

This is why I hated the Garrett hire. His offense has style but lacks substance. He gets pass happy and has no clue on establishing a run game. I don't care if this is a pass happy league, you need to be able to run the football at certain points of the game. Yesterday with a 24 point lead was just the latest example.

On top of that, he is terrible as a play caller in the red zone. Our offense is notorious for being able to drive up and down the length of the field but has to settle for FGs. It drives me insane. He's so predictable in key situations, hell we brought out Brent for 4th down yesterday... ya think Detroit was anticipating a run up the middle?

Garrett will never surrender his play calling duties as long as he's head coach. I'm still astounded that he didn't garner any of the blame from last year when it was our offense that failed us early in the season. Well Wade's gone Redhead, what's your excuse now?

[FreshBoy!]

Hahaha, the sky is falling the sky is falling. You guys realize the same Garrett got the boys up by 20+? Y'all realize that? He has his warts. I live in Baltimore/D.C. area and the way the Ravens fans rag on their OC & HC is remarkably similar. They want Flacco throwing the ball around, less smash mouth, more down the field throws, etc, etc...

Despite losing in spectacular fashion...every single game since Redball has taken over has been close in the closing seconds....the offense is still putting up massive yards and points despite having a new line, numerous injuries, no running game.

I'm not even making excuses, he's got to learn how to manage the game better...I think sometimes we forget there's another team with it's own plans on the other side of the ball. Tony checked out of a run on the Witten INT....for good reason because he had single coverage on a LB'er. The Lions DL finally exploited the inside of our OL, and got pressure up the middle....Line holds and we're singing a new tune here today. Fans don't want to hear that. We just want to rage...rage..rage....

I hate seeing these guys lose as much as the next guy, but there's literally a couple very small things these guys need to do on game day to win these what....9 close games in a row? 2-2 heading into the bye isn't the worst thing in the world. Only a game out of first...it's a long season..let's see how it plays out before we get our pitchforks. Cowboys are #6 in offense and #4 on defense....Again..with NUMEROUS key injuries on both side of the ball. Garrett and Ryan are doing a great job of holding this thing together....they just need to close these tight games...Hopefully they figure it out by mid season.

[pocketaces]

Sigh...That was so disappointing. I really didn't think we would win that game but when your up 27-3...Geez. I just think Tony is the same as Danny White, very good QB but just can't get to the next level.

Looking at the schedule before the year started I predicted 10-6. I thought we would be 4-3 and then going on a run. If we can spit our next two (will be tough) then we'll be right where I figured, just not the way I figured haha.

We have a team that can play with anybody, but can lose to anybody as well.

Oh, and NEVER, EVEEEEEEEEEER, start talking about who we're going to rest in the 4th quarter cuz we are so far ahead. Kiss of death right there lol

[J-Mike88]

Even my club had many fans wanting our coach, and GM, out last year when we were seemingly done and out before the playoffs got there.

People still rip McCarthy.
And had David Akers not missed 2 FG's against us in the Wildcard game, Rodgers would still have ZERO playoff wins under his belt. Or one fewer than Romo.

My point is this: There are some reasons why Dallas' offense made Rex Ryan's defense look average for 3 quarters in week 1.
And there are reasons why Romo looked like Tom Brady for the first half yesterday.
He's good. Dez is a beast. Witten is solid.

I still believe this team can win the division this year.

Romo's just gotta cut down on the mistakes late in games.
He's capable of doing that.

I love living here because I get to look at the Dallas sports scene with unbias. I remember being on 103.3 a bunch of times last year, the year before, defending Nowitzki. Seemed like 90% of the bruthas calling in said "they need a new #1 because the Mavs ain't can't ever win a title with that guy Dirk as their #1 player"..... really? There are only a small handful of players as good or better as him, they need one of them? Like Lebron?

Cowboys can beat anyone right now if Romo stops the f***ups at the end.

I do believe the Lions are the #2 team in the NFC right now, maybe the Saints, and the Cowboys dominated the Lions for most of the game yesterday.

[yanksknicks]

Sigh...That was so disappointing. I really didn't think we would win that game but when your up 27-3...Geez. I just think Tony is the same as Danny White, very good QB but just can't get to the next level.

Looking at the schedule before the year started I predicted 10-6. I thought we would be 4-3 and then going on a run. If we can spit our next two (will be tough) then we'll be right where I figured, just not the way I figured haha.

We have a team that can play with anybody, but can lose to anybody as well.

Oh, and NEVER, EVEEEEEEEEEER, start talking about who we're going to rest in the 4th quarter cuz we are so far ahead. Kiss of death right there lol

I jinxed us.

Seconds after I posted, Carp turned the game around.

[M.O.T.H.]

He's like a playoff-Favre.

As a die-hard Packer fan, we have emotional scars from that guy every single playoff season other than 1996 when Reggie White carried us to the title.

Favre would more-often-than-not come thru in the clutch of regular seasons, but Romo seems to always be in Favre-playoff-mode.

I like Tony a lot, living here in Dallas with unbiasedness. But I know exactly how you guys feel seeing him almost single-handedly throw games away.

Up 27-3 midway thru 3, that's gotta be a win. Run, play-action, run, safe-pass, etc. The Lions offense hadn't done anything.

And nice pathetic tackling on the Bobby Carpenter return. That Cowboys backup TE had a simple, easy chance to tackle him right away at about the 40 yard line. That's inexcusable.

The good thing for you guys is you're still just a game out of 1st in that division, and the Iggles are a laughable 1-3.

lol. Dez Bryant could have tackled Carpenter easily. But John Phillips just blew up the wrong guy. Pretty freaking sad.

Romo is to blame for that INT, but sure would have been nice if someone could have brought the guy down.

[D-Unit]

Sigh...That was so disappointing. I really didn't think we would win that game but when your up 27-3...Geez. I just think Tony is the same as Danny White, very good QB but just can't get to the next level.

Looking at the schedule before the year started I predicted 10-6. I thought we would be 4-3 and then going on a run. If we can spit our next two (will be tough) then we'll be right where I figured, just not the way I figured haha.

We have a team that can play with anybody, but can lose to anybody as well.

Oh, and NEVER, EVEEEEEEEEEER, start talking about who we're going to rest in the 4th quarter cuz we are so far ahead. Kiss of death right there lol
Hahaha. My brother in law told me the same thing about Romo being Danny White. I told him I don't know much about Danny White, but he said White was the Best QB from 20 yard line to 20 yard line, but could never seal the deal in the redzone... and could never get the Boys to that elite level.

[D-Unit]

lol. Dez Bryant could have tackled Carpenter easily. But John Phillips just blew up the wrong guy. Pretty freaking sad.

Romo is to blame for that INT, but sure would have been nice if someone could have brought the guy down.
The team was probably as much in shock as I was....

Bobby Carpenter intercepted the ball???????????????????

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[LonghornsLegend]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/cory_mccartney/03/30/griffin-baylor/robert-griffin-p1.jpg



Seriously though, am I crazy in thinking that if you drafted a guy really high behind Romo so he knew there was a realistic chance he'd get benched, maybe he wouldn't toss the ball around so freely. None the less, if RGIII comes out he'd be the 4th QB taken, and have a chance to go outside of the top 10 where we could make a move.


At this point, QBotf is something I'm gonna keep an eye on, whether it happens or not.

[D-Unit]

Hahaha, the sky is falling the sky is falling. You guys realize the same Garrett got the boys up by 20+? Y'all realize that? He has his warts. I live in Baltimore/D.C. area and the way the Ravens fans rag on their OC & HC is remarkably similar. They want Flacco throwing the ball around, less smash mouth, more down the field throws, etc, etc...

Despite losing in spectacular fashion...every single game since Redball has taken over has been close in the closing seconds....the offense is still putting up massive yards and points despite having a new line, numerous injuries, no running game.

I'm not even making excuses, he's got to learn how to manage the game better...I think sometimes we forget there's another team with it's own plans on the other side of the ball. Tony checked out of a run on the Witten INT....for good reason because he had single coverage on a LB'er. The Lions DL finally exploited the inside of our OL, and got pressure up the middle....Line holds and we're singing a new tune here today. Fans don't want to hear that. We just want to rage...rage..rage....

I hate seeing these guys lose as much as the next guy, but there's literally a couple very small things these guys need to do on game day to win these what....9 close games in a row? 2-2 heading into the bye isn't the worst thing in the world. Only a game out of first...it's a long season..let's see how it plays out before we get our pitchforks. Cowboys are #6 in offense and #4 on defense....Again..with NUMEROUS key injuries on both side of the ball. Garrett and Ryan are doing a great job of holding this thing together....they just need to close these tight games...Hopefully they figure it out by mid season.
At some point you have to believe what your eyes tell you. Tony Romo is too mentally weak to make this team a SB winner. The possibility of winning the division is not far fetched, but even if we did that, this is a QB that makes too many mistakes and doesn't learn from them.

I'll keep cheering because that's how my heart is programmed, but my brain is telling me how stupid I am to let my heart convince me that this team has a chance.

[D-Unit]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/writers/cory_mccartney/03/30/griffin-baylor/robert-griffin-p1.jpg



Seriously though, am I crazy in thinking that if you drafted a guy really high behind Romo so he knew there was a realistic chance he'd get benched, maybe he wouldn't toss the ball around so freely. None the less, if RGIII comes out he'd be the 4th QB taken, and have a chance to go outside of the top 10 where we could make a move.


At this point, QBotf is something I'm gonna keep an eye on, whether it happens or not.
+1

This is exactly the kind of pressure Tony needs. He's a competitor and right now there's nobody he's competing with for his job. I think some pressure like this would do him a lot of good and make him think twice about some of the mistakes he constantly makes. I think the last time he ever had to worry was when Drew Henson was here competing for that spot behind Bledsoe.

RG3 Love! Can't get enough!

[FreshBoy!]

At some point you have to believe what your eyes tell you. Tony Romo is too mentally weak to make this team a SB winner. The possibility of winning the division is not far fetched, but even if we did that, this is a QB that makes too many mistakes and doesn't learn from them.

I'll keep cheering because that's how my heart is programmed, but my brain is telling me how stupid I am to let my heart convince me that this team has a chance.
Re-read my post, and see the posts before it.
I was defending Garrett in my post.. Haha... not Romo.

Romo is what he is...good enough to win you games, bad enough to lose you games. As sad as this sounds...I'll take that. He's a top 5 QB when he's on....bottom 15 when he has his brain fart. Chad Hutchinson, Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Bledsoe, Anthony Wright.....hahaha I'm ok with Romo man.....after all that...I'm ok with him. He's an elite talent that can take over a game, he just needs to be managed better. We're a good 2-3 years out before finding someone to replace him...until then I'm just hoping for the best.

[D-Unit]

I was defending Garrett in my post.. Haha... not Romo
Oh sorry. Garrett.... well.... he needs help. Even if it's just an advisor. Wasn't he trying to get Dan Reeves a while back? Some kind of check and balance system would help him and this team out a lot.

Houck out and Sparano in as some OL/Assistant HC/OC capacity?

[HEISMANHERSCHEL]

Seems to me we have an interior line problem. The running plays seem to have disruption coming from the interior. It is weird to me, cause usually you hear about pass protection problems. I think our pass protection is better than our run protection. And I can't figure it out. It doesn't make any sense to me. But I can't help but see our runningbacks jumping out of the way of interior defensive lineman when running the ball.

First time I ever remember any team having that problem.

[M.O.T.H.]

It makes plenty of sense. Our interior line in undersized and they dont generate much push at all. It is certainly a problem. Kosier is having a down year at RG. And Nagy/Costa are lacking in the strength department. I'd also add that Free has been having some problems in run blocking this year as well. At times he's slow out of his stance and has whiffed or just been late on his blocks.

Our run blocking has been a problem for years...but now we have it even worse because these interior lineman of ours are just being overpowered at the point of attack. It also doesnt help that Houck is notoriously known for being all about power blocking. We have athletic, finesse personnel now. It doesnt really add up.

[yanksknicks]

The team was probably as much in shock as I was....

Bobby Carpenter intercepted the ball???????????????????

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Don't know why you would say that, he was our 3rd Down LB and our D was pretty good that year. Last year, once cut, we sucked on 3rd Down.

[yanksknicks]

It makes plenty of sense. Our interior line in undersized and they dont generate much push at all. It is certainly a problem. Kosier is having a down year at RG. And Nagy/Costa are lacking in the strength department. I'd also add that Free has been having some problems in run blocking this year as well. At times he's slow out of his stance and has whiffed or just been late on his blocks.

Our run blocking has been a problem for years...but now we have it even worse because these interior lineman of ours are just being overpowered at the point of attack. It also doesnt help that Houck is notoriously known for being all about power blocking. We have athletic, finesse personnel now. It doesnt really add up.

Our run blocking has been a problem since Sparano left.

[LonghornsLegend]

Don't know why you would say that, he was our 3rd Down LB and our D was pretty good that year. Last year, once cut, we sucked on 3rd Down.

ahahahahahahaah. I know your upset, but let's not start going overboard and talking about how you basically miss Barbie because since he was our 3rd down LB when our defense was good. Even though he was a 1st rd pick. Lol. Romo threw the ball right to him, without another WR within 10 yards in any direction, he would have had to try extremely hard to not run that back.


And with all that said he still fumbled lol. Once the ball bounced directly back to a Lions player on the 1st bounce I knew it was gonna be one of those days.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

I hope it gets blown up out of proportion. I need a war to rage between Jerry and Romo in order to get change. This can't keep happening.

LOL. Has it been reported though? I want change in our system. But that's not going to happen unless Coughlin gets fired. And I don't want that, I always liked him.

I think in order to win in this league you need a clutch QB. I am not sure I would rely on Romo in a big time situation to be clutch, like a championship game or superbowl. In fact, if I was a Dallas fan, I'd be scared to give Romo the ball with 2 minutes or 1:30 left to drive the length of the field and score with all the pressure on his shoulder.

Maybe it's a function of having garbage QBs before Romo, so when a big time improvement came along, everyone loved it. Reminds me of when Collins came to QB and replaced the Danny Kannel, Kent Graham and Dave Browns we had to live through.

[TheFinisher]

FWIW, our offensive line played fantastic against the vaunted Lions front. I was worried that Suh would be living in the backfield but Costa and Co. actually handled him up front. I was pleasantly surprised.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

FWIW, our offensive line played fantastic against the vaunted Lions front. I was worried that Suh would be living in the backfield but Costa and Co. actually handled him up front. I was pleasantly surprised.

Were you guys able to run on them?

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Video: Dad Teaches His Son How to Burn a Tony Romo Jersey
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2011/10/video-dad-teaches-his-son-how-to-burn-a-tony-romo-jersey/


Love you fine people that live in Texas, lol.

The kid's laugh is very annoying! So be prepared.

[Trogdor]

Were you guys able to run on them?

Yes. As we both mentioned prior to the game they are overly aggressive and BURNED by the cut-back. We didn't stick with the run (*looks at Garrett*) so we didn't end up with an immense pile-up of yards but we did average 4.2/carry.

Garrett still has me seething. I want him in charge of game-planning and someone else to call the plays next year.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Yes. As we both mentioned prior to the game they are overly aggressive and BURNED by the cut-back. We didn't stick with the run (*looks at Garrett*) so we didn't end up with an immense pile-up of yards but we did average 4.2/carry.

Garrett still has me seething. I want him in charge of game-planning and someone else to call the plays next year.

I figured that. Well I called them over rated, but overly aggressive is very too. I think that plays a part in it too. You need to get the ball out of Romo's hands and balance it out. I don't think he can be clutch and when you have a huge lead run, run, run, run and run.

[Trogdor]

I figured that. Well I called them over rated, but overly aggressive is very too. I think that plays a part in it too. You need to get the ball out of Romo's hands and balance it out. I don't think he can be clutch and when you have a huge lead run, run, run, run and run.

Romo's negatives are very overstated. Without him we aren't up 24. Without him we lose to the Skins and Niners. He's the ultimate G.O.A.T (Greatest of All Time) and goat. When you have a playstyle that is gun-ho and risk taking it's feast or famine. The coaching staff has to recognize that and cater the gameplan around the team. -_- I wouldn't have been angry if Garrett deleted the passing section of the playbook in the second half. Our defense had them stone-walled and we were calling plays like we were down by 10 with 8 minutes left. *sigh*

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Romo's negatives are very overstated. Without him we aren't up 24. Without him we lose to the Skins and Niners. He's the ultimate G.O.A.T (Greatest of All Time) and goat. When you have a playstyle that is gun-ho and risk taking it's feast or famine. The coaching staff has to recognize that and cater the gameplan around the team. -_- I wouldn't have been angry if Garrett deleted the passing section of the playbook in the second half. Our defense had them stone-walled and we were calling plays like we were down by 10 with 8 minutes left. *sigh*

I will tell you a story. I was at old man Garrett's house when he was interviewing me. I asked him about Romo and the reads. And he looked at me like Romo doesn't have reads. It's almost as if it's playground style. Go back and sees who is open. And sometimes that leads to errors. Now this was couple years back, but the basic point is I am sure he has reads, but I think based on what the dad said, he may also have it open. Like drop back, do your thing, and find the open guy.

[Trogdor]

I will tell you a story. I was at old man Garrett's house when he was interviewing me. I asked him about Romo and the reads. And he looked at me like Romo doesn't have reads. It's almost as if it's playground style. Go back and sees who is open. And sometimes that leads to errors. Now this was couple years back, but the basic point is I am sure he has reads, but I think based on what the dad said, he may also have it open. Like drop back, do your thing, and find the open guy.

Oh I have no doubts that Romo's perceptive abilities are not that of a Peyton Manning I'm not delusional. I'm 1000% okay with Romo dropping back to pass in a close game and making a bad judgment call it happens. Garrett knows better. You have to protect the lead. Inexcusable as a coach to abandon the run when it has been successful AND you are up by 3 TDs. Guess I'm just a tad miffed that the media gives Garrett a pass for his atrocious playcalling.

[Macarthur]

I was also pleasantly surprised with our OL. They still have a ways to go, but I think we can compete with this group.

After having a day or so to reflect, I'm still miffed that we lost that game, but I also feel like being 2-2 in this division is an okay spot. I don't think the Skins will keep this pace. The Giants injuries are going to catch up to them at some point. I think the EAgles issues are not ones that can be fixed. I think we may actually be positioned better than any team in the East moving forward. We are going to be our healthiest coming out of the bye.

I really think we can win this division.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

I was also pleasantly surprised with our OL. They still have a ways to go, but I think we can compete with this group.

After having a day or so to reflect, I'm still miffed that we lost that game, but I also feel like being 2-2 in this division is an okay spot. I don't think the Skins will keep this pace. The Giants injuries are going to catch up to them at some point. I think the EAgles issues are not ones that can be fixed. I think we may actually be positioned better than any team in the East moving forward. We are going to be our healthiest coming out of the bye.

I really think we can win this division.

Hopefully we can fight through out injuries. Our guys are stepping up. Tuck didn't play so what happened? Tolly came up with 2 sacks. Manningham didn't play during the eagles game. What happened? Cruz stepped up with 2 TDs. Prince, Koets and Barden will come back at some point after the bye week. So we will have more depth and bodies.

If the OL can gel then we are in very good shape. If not, then it will be a dog fight all the way through.

Give props to the redskins for winning. You guys are bipolar team. If you guys can be consistent, then you're in the mix too. The Eagles are always in it. When Jeff Garcia was there they still made the damn playoffs. So I really want to count them out, but they prove time and time again they can make it. So I am not writing them off until they are officially not a threat anymore.

It's a dog fight of a division. All the teams have strengths and weakness. It comes down to who is going to step up.

[TheFinisher]

I posted a lengthy thread topic in the Pro Football section of the site about Romo and how this is quickly turning into a make or break season for him. Feel free to chime in.

[D-Unit]

Don't know why you would say that, he was our 3rd Down LB and our D was pretty good that year. Last year, once cut, we sucked on 3rd Down.
Can you back that up?

[D-Unit]

LOL. Has it been reported though? I want change in our system. But that's not going to happen unless Coughlin gets fired. And I don't want that, I always liked him.

I think in order to win in this league you need a clutch QB. I am not sure I would rely on Romo in a big time situation to be clutch, like a championship game or superbowl. In fact, if I was a Dallas fan, I'd be scared to give Romo the ball with 2 minutes or 1:30 left to drive the length of the field and score with all the pressure on his shoulder.

Maybe it's a function of having garbage QBs before Romo, so when a big time improvement came along, everyone loved it. Reminds me of when Collins came to QB and replaced the Danny Kannel, Kent Graham and Dave Browns we had to live through.
Pretty much yup.

I will never trust Romo. Not saying he won't win us some great games... but I know that he will continue to make boneheaded mistakes as long as he plays the game of football.

[D-Unit]

Deion Sanders had some nice things to say about Romo....

"I don't understand this guy," Sanders said on the NFL Network. "Just when you want to believe in him, heroic effort, came back against San Francisco, they said punctured lung and everything. And we praised him, we said, 'Yeah, he's that leader, he's their guy.'"

"And then you come and do this. What are you thinking?"

"Sooner or later," Sanders said, "we’ve just got to quit guessing and assuming that this guy’s is the guy to get you over the hump, and say, 'You know what? This guy is always going to be great statistically, but he’s not that guy that can take you to where you want to go.' And that’s the Super Bowl."

"Dallas Cowboys fans are sick of it," Sanders said. "We had (Romo) on our shoulders last week. 'Oh Tony, he's our king!' But now we want to stone him. I'm serious, that's the way (fans) feel about him because you can't trust him."

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/10/04/11/Deion-Sanders-Romo-not-the-man-to-lead-C/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=574634&feedID=4680

[yanksknicks]

Can you back that up?

Um, his last year in Dallas was 2009......
15.6 PPG
225 YPassingG
6.8 YPA
42 Sacks
35% 3rd Down Success Rate
60% Completion Rate
33 Passing TD


Last year without Carpenter in 2010 ....
27.3 PPG
243 YPassingG
7.7 YPA
31 Sacks
40% 3rd Down Success Rte
60% Completion Rate
19 Passing TD

Not arguing Carpenter was all that good in Dallas but the Defense got worse in passing downs without him. Now if you want to argue all the others guys played poorly, sure, but the simple fact is the loss of Carpenter hurt the Pass D last year. When Burnett left, no one really missed b/c Carp took over.

The guy is 4-3 Strong Side Linebacker. Just play him there and he is a good player. Guys here just want to kill the guy so they will but sometimes you need to know how to use a player to get out of him what is in him. The fact he was picked to play a position he was too small for is not his fault, it is Jerry/Parcells/Ireland.

It is not like Carpenter was selected in the first round when everyone thought he was a 5th rounder. Unlike Martellus, various QBs selected in the 4th, Brewster, Kickers, etc....... who all were projected much later. Carpenter was picked a bit early but we are talking 5-10 picks early.

[TheFinisher]

Deion Sanders had some nice things to say about Romo....

"I don't understand this guy," Sanders said on the NFL Network. "Just when you want to believe in him, heroic effort, came back against San Francisco, they said punctured lung and everything. And we praised him, we said, 'Yeah, he's that leader, he's their guy.'"

"And then you come and do this. What are you thinking?"

"Sooner or later," Sanders said, "we’ve just got to quit guessing and assuming that this guy’s is the guy to get you over the hump, and say, 'You know what? This guy is always going to be great statistically, but he’s not that guy that can take you to where you want to go.' And that’s the Super Bowl."

"Dallas Cowboys fans are sick of it," Sanders said. "We had (Romo) on our shoulders last week. 'Oh Tony, he's our king!' But now we want to stone him. I'm serious, that's the way (fans) feel about him because you can't trust him."

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/10/04/11/Deion-Sanders-Romo-not-the-man-to-lead-C/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=574634&feedID=4680

So did Chris Cooley...

In his weekly interview with WJFK-FM on Monday, Cooley joked that he'd quickly dispose of Dallas' quarterback by channeling his proven grappling experience.

"For me to beat Tony? I'm going to be honest, I don't know what kind of cage-fighting skills he has," Cooley said. "I would probably try to incorporate my wrestling ability, like when I was in high school. Obviously it's been a while, but I didn't like to beat people fast. I like to embarrass 'em a little bit. Like, take a 24-point lead, and then just play with it a little bit."

Cooley wouldn't let that final point go, acknowledging the thrill he felt at seeing Romo self-implode Sunday against the Lions.

"It's so good," Cooley said. "... It's amazing, amazing to watch him choke like that. I'm just saying, I'm up 24 points in the third quarter, if I'm the head coach, I feel like I could probably just take a knee for the rest of the game, punt it away and there's no way that Detroit's going to drive on you that many times. The only way you're going to give up that many points is turnovers, right? It's hilarious to watch him throw pick sixes, too, back to back. I loved it."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822d35e2/article/redskins-cooley-basked-in-romos-amazing-collapse-vs-lions?module=HP11_headline_stack

He said it perfectly, it must be so much fun watching Romo collapse the way he does if you're a fan of another team.

[LonghornsLegend]

So did Chris Cooley...



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d822d35e2/article/redskins-cooley-basked-in-romos-amazing-collapse-vs-lions?module=HP11_headline_stack

He said it perfectly, it must be so much fun watching Romo collapse the way he does if you're a fan of another team.


Man, I feel so stupid for defending Romo for as long as I did. I remember when he did this early on all the time, and after awhile he cut down the turnovers. In 2009 he threw 9, along with nearly 30 TD's.


That was supposed to be the end of this. 2 years later, it's back to the old days. People can say I'm over exaggerating if they want, but I've seen enough of Romo to know what he is. He's talented enough to win a SB, but mentally he checks out of games.


There is no excuse for a good QB to implode like that two times in the 4th quarter and it's just barely October. I'd gladly take that trade off on some of the TD's he throws for a QB who took care of the football.


Losing a 10 point lead in the 4th is understandable. The other team strikes quick, makes it a 1 possession game and it's back and forth all quarter. I don't know what the hell you'd call what we've been doing.

[D-Unit]

Um, his last year in Dallas was 2009......
15.6 PPG
225 YPassingG
6.8 YPA
42 Sacks
35% 3rd Down Success Rate
60% Completion Rate
33 Passing TD


Last year without Carpenter in 2010 ....
27.3 PPG
243 YPassingG
7.7 YPA
31 Sacks
40% 3rd Down Success Rte
60% Completion Rate
19 Passing TD

Not arguing Carpenter was all that good in Dallas but the Defense got worse in passing downs without him. Now if you want to argue all the others guys played poorly, sure, but the simple fact is the loss of Carpenter hurt the Pass D last year. When Burnett left, no one really missed b/c Carp took over.

The guy is 4-3 Strong Side Linebacker. Just play him there and he is a good player. Guys here just want to kill the guy so they will but sometimes you need to know how to use a player to get out of him what is in him. The fact he was picked to play a position he was too small for is not his fault, it is Jerry/Parcells/Ireland.

It is not like Carpenter was selected in the first round when everyone thought he was a 5th rounder. Unlike Martellus, various QBs selected in the 4th, Brewster, Kickers, etc....... who all were projected much later. Carpenter was picked a bit early but we are talking 5-10 picks early.
That's why I thought Carpenter would do well in St. Louis, but he sucked there too. I'm not naive enough to attribute your stats directly to one guy, especially when that guy is Bobby Carpenter. There are so many different factors behind those stats that it ain't funny. I hope you know that and you don't think it's all Barbie's doing.

We're a better team today because he's gone. As you said... He wasn't a fit here. ...and it was Parcells/Ireland's fault. We can fault Jerry for a lot of things, but I'm not gonna blame him here since this was clearly a Parcells decision.

[LonghornsLegend]

Deion Sanders had some nice things to say about Romo....

"I don't understand this guy," Sanders said on the NFL Network. "Just when you want to believe in him, heroic effort, came back against San Francisco, they said punctured lung and everything. And we praised him, we said, 'Yeah, he's that leader, he's their guy.'"

"And then you come and do this. What are you thinking?"

"Sooner or later," Sanders said, "we’ve just got to quit guessing and assuming that this guy’s is the guy to get you over the hump, and say, 'You know what? This guy is always going to be great statistically, but he’s not that guy that can take you to where you want to go.' And that’s the Super Bowl."

"Dallas Cowboys fans are sick of it," Sanders said. "We had (Romo) on our shoulders last week. 'Oh Tony, he's our king!' But now we want to stone him. I'm serious, that's the way (fans) feel about him because you can't trust him."

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/10/04/11/Deion-Sanders-Romo-not-the-man-to-lead-C/landing_cowboys.html?blockID=574634&feedID=4680


This was cool to hear, hadn't read this. Couldn't be more spot on.


That being said, I'd be willing to make a bet with someone that we beat NE and then proceed to lose to STL. That's just how we roll.

[D-Unit]

Notice nobody on the team is defending Romo like they did after the NYJ game?

We had Brooking, Witten, Coaches and others speaking up for Romo after the Jets loss.

This time.... Nada....

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Notice nobody on the team is defending Romo like they did after the NYJ game?

We had Brooking, Witten, Coaches and others speaking up for Romo after the Jets loss.

This time.... Nada....

They probably are tired week to week answering QB related questions.

[D-Unit]

They probably are tired week to week answering QB related questions.
Now is the time we need real leadership to show up. One thing that has kind of irked me is that this team doesn't have a lot of vocal leadership. Our best players have to step forward, lead our men and defend the team against criticism.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Now is the time we need real leadership to show up. One thing that has kind of irked me is that this team doesn't have a lot of vocal leadership. Our best players have to step forward, lead our men and defend the team against criticism.

You guys got a lot of players. Someone should say something. Do they like him? Maybe they get annoyed because of the way he loses his temper on the field. How about Witten? That's his favorite player and best friend. Has he come out and defended Romo? He is a sick player he can be a leader.

You guys have veterans on the team. Maybe they want to see how Romo bounces back.

I would think week after week it gets tiring answering questions about Romo. They were talking about him, surprise, surprise, on NFL live i think it was or NFL total access.

[Flyboy]

While Tony Romo is getting a lot of flock and believe me he deserves a lot of it and as a person who hates the Cowboys (living in Lubbock, TX for eighteen years of your life does that to a person).. where the hell does Jason Garrett get a pass for calling so many damn passing plays? You're up with the lead... it should be killing off the clock with running the ball with Jones & Choice and passing if you have to in order to complete first downs. Garrett reminds me a lot of Sean Payton in his earlier playcalling days as a head coach.. Payton has really came more of a balance playcaller. Garrett needs to learn the same.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Interesting read on your scout.com cowboys forum. Your fan base and Lions fans going at it.

Lions fans acting like they won the Superbowl
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=8038820&p=1



Fake 4-0 team destroys Cowboys...
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=8031277

[D-Unit]

While Tony Romo is getting a lot of flock and believe me he deserves a lot of it and as a person who hates the Cowboys (living in Lubbock, TX for eighteen years of your life does that to a person).. where the hell does Jason Garrett get a pass for calling so many damn passing plays? You're up with the lead... it should be killing off the clock with running the ball with Jones & Choice and passing if you have to in order to complete first downs. Garrett reminds me a lot of Sean Payton in his earlier playcalling days as a head coach.. Payton has really came more of a balance playcaller. Garrett needs to learn the same.
Well we've talked about that ad nasuem. Glad non-Cowboys fans are picking up on that too.

[D-Unit]

Interesting read on your scout.com cowboys forum. Your fan base and Lions fans going at it.

Lions fans acting like they won the Superbowl
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=8038820&p=1



Fake 4-0 team destroys Cowboys...
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=112&f=1786&t=8031277
Wow. I haven't browsed that forum in years.

I don't like team oriented forums where all you get are homers. But Lions Nation has a lot to be happy about right now. I've never been a Lions hater but their reaction is human nature. Winning = Arrogance.

Found this there...

Cowboys second-round LB Bruce Carter was in pads Tuesday for the first time since tearing his ACL last November.

On the reserve/NFI list, Carter isn't eligible to return to practice until October 23. He expects to play a role on special teams and in subpackages in the second half of the season.


Cowboys CB Orlando Scandrick (ankle) declared himself "ready to play" heading into the bye week.

Scandrick expects to return to practice next week and play against the Patriots. The Cowboys will have their top three cornerbacks on the field for the first time this season.

yay.

[M.O.T.H.]

Yeah those are all updates on rotoworld...I was just about to post that Bruce Carter update. Getting close for him.

[LonghornsLegend]

Last thing I wanna do is rush Carter, take it slow with him and make sure he's good to go before getting out there and making it worse. He's got a ton of potential in this Rob Ryan defense, so much more athleticism then Brooking & James.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Wow. I haven't browsed that forum in years.

I don't like team oriented forums where all you get are homers. But Lions Nation has a lot to be happy about right now. I've never been a Lions hater but their reaction is human nature. Winning = Arrogance.

Found this there...

Cowboys second-round LB Bruce Carter was in pads Tuesday for the first time since tearing his ACL last November.

On the reserve/NFI list, Carter isn't eligible to return to practice until October 23. He expects to play a role on special teams and in subpackages in the second half of the season.


Cowboys CB Orlando Scandrick (ankle) declared himself "ready to play" heading into the bye week.

Scandrick expects to return to practice next week and play against the Patriots. The Cowboys will have their top three cornerbacks on the field for the first time this season.

yay.



That's why I don't root for historically bad franchises. I rooted for the Steelers in the superbowl against Arizona. Sometimes I think a base needs to get eased into winning. I remember fighting with Lions fans last year I think it was when we played them. If you're historically bad then one should be humble not so arrogant, especially if the franchise is historically pathetic. That's why I like or root for upcoming franchises to a certain extent. After that, it makes me annoyed.

[D-Unit]

That's why I don't root for historically bad franchises. I rooted for the Steelers in the superbowl against Arizona. Sometimes I think a base needs to get eased into winning. I remember fighting with Lions fans last year I think it was when we played them. If you're historically bad then one should be humble not so arrogant, especially if the franchise is historically pathetic. That's why I like or root for upcoming franchises to a certain extent. After that, it makes me annoyed.
Haha. I never thought about it that way...

[NY+Giants=NYG]

Haha. I never thought about it that way...

I kind of think of it as being famous or rich right away. It makes people arrogant. But ease into it.. Make 100K then 300K and then 650K and so on. Get used to moving up the ladder. If Arizona won a superbowl against the Steelers their fan base would be insufferable. 4-0 and Lions fans are like this. Can you imagine if they won a superbowl?

I was in Boston for college and we had Pats fans talking smack to Steelers fans. This was during their superbowl winning era. It's very annoying to see.

[yanksknicks]

That's why I thought Carpenter would do well in St. Louis, but he sucked there too. I'm not naive enough to attribute your stats directly to one guy, especially when that guy is Bobby Carpenter. There are so many different factors behind those stats that it ain't funny. I hope you know that and you don't think it's all Barbie's doing.

We're a better team today because he's gone. As you said... He wasn't a fit here. ...and it was Parcells/Ireland's fault. We can fault Jerry for a lot of things, but I'm not gonna blame him here since this was clearly a Parcells decision.

Of course it is not all Carpenter's doing but it had its effects.

And with respect to Jerry's drafting, frankly, it sucks. Whether Carp was, or not, his is irrelevant because he is bad at his job.

[D-Unit]

Of course it is not all Carpenter's doing but it had its effects.

And with respect to Jerry's drafting, frankly, it sucks. Whether Carp was, or not, his is irrelevant because he is bad at his job.
Cowboys drafts have their fair share of hits and misses. We've definitely had some doozies. 2009 was a complete joke.

[LonghornsLegend]

That's why I don't root for historically bad franchises. I rooted for the Steelers in the superbowl against Arizona. Sometimes I think a base needs to get eased into winning. I remember fighting with Lions fans last year I think it was when we played them. If you're historically bad then one should be humble not so arrogant, especially if the franchise is historically pathetic. That's why I like or root for upcoming franchises to a certain extent. After that, it makes me annoyed.

I agree 100%. Which is why I hated how Schwartz was acting with Dez and his comments about him after the game. Show more respect for the game. Let the players get into the trash talk, media bashing, whatever you wanna call it. Just give the other team/players respect and move on.


Already seems like he doesn't know how to handle winning. Now I'm not gonna act like he doesn't have every right to be extremely happy, as does any Detroit fan, but go about it with some class. Schwartz doesn't seem to have any.


I've always felt that way, no matter what scenario, team, period.

[pocketaces]

I agree 100%. Which is why I hated how Schwartz was acting with Dez and his comments about him after the game. Show more respect for the game. Let the players get into the trash talk, media bashing, whatever you wanna call it. Just give the other team/players respect and move on.


Already seems like he doesn't know how to handle winning. Now I'm not gonna act like he doesn't have every right to be extremely happy, as does any Detroit fan, but go about it with some class. Schwartz doesn't seem to have any.


I've always felt that way, no matter what scenario, team, period.


I wonder if he was just reacting to Rob saying they face better WRs in practice than CJ? Cant imagine a coach acting like that without being jabbed..

[D-Unit]

I wonder if he was just reacting to Rob saying they face better WRs in practice than CJ? Cant imagine a coach acting like that without being jabbed..
I got a great laugh outta Schwarts on that one. LOL. I know it was towards us, but that was funny as hell. If that was Rob Ryan it would've made me love him even more. Lions fans must've loved it too.

But I'm a Cowboys fan so.... What a jerk. LOL.

[TheFinisher]

Does anyone else notice how quiet our stadium is compared to others around the league? Stafford was able to use hard counts all game long and Troy had commented a few times on how the crowd noise is always low in the new stadium.

It just doesn't seem like the crowd make-up has the right kind of personalities among them to get loud. Seems to be a lot of white collared businessman types at the games instead of lunatics, which is really what we need lol.

IDK, maybe it's just me... but we must have the softest crowds in the entire league.

[FreshBoy!]

It's never been that way though....I've been to both stadiums..Neither have been Vikings esque as far as crowd noise is concerned. Even the playoff game against Philly it was only...relatively loud.

[Macarthur]

Notice nobody on the team is defending Romo like they did after the NYJ game?

We had Brooking, Witten, Coaches and others speaking up for Romo after the Jets loss.

This time.... Nada....

Brooking was on the ticket this morning and defended Romo. He was very defensive about Romo and even took a shot at Cooley.

Okay, here goes. I'm going to come on here and try to talk everyone off the cliff. Sitting at 2-2 coming out of the bye is a pretty decent position to be in. Look, I know Romo has had two really bad meltdowns, but lets not forget, while you can lay two losses at his feet, I don't think we win twice without him. Let's all remember back to 2009 when he started the year out with a veyr similar game against the Giants at home. He went on to only throw 6 INTs the rest of the season, so he has shown that he can control his errors for an extended period of time.

Let's me honest. After all the injuries, youth, new defensive system, etc., pretty much the feeling we all had was that if we could get to the bye at 2-2, we could be in a good spot to have a strong finish. Granted, the two wins and two losses certainly aren't how we invisioned them, but crazy things happen in the NFL.

I still think we are in a good position to win this division. The Giants are playing pretty well, but how long can they keep this up with their injury situation? The EAgles have issue that, IMO, go right to the core and are not fixable during a season. The Skins have Grossman and I do not think he can keep them much above .500.

This division is very winnable. Let's all take a deep breath and let Garrett go to work here. He did do a good job with this thing down the stretch. The youth is going to get better as the season goes along and coming out of the bye, we should be as healthy as we have been all season.

I know it's hard after such a kick to groin, but there is some reason for optimism.

Oh, and back to comments by Deion and Cooley. Deion is not in the category of Aikman, Emmitt, Pearson, Staubauch, etc. He does not get cart blance to be the spokesman for the Metroplex and all of Cowboy nation. As for Cooley, what a dewsh. Try doing something on the field before....oh, that's right, he lost his job. Nevermind, I think that's all that needs to be said about that tool.

[FreshBoy!]

Well said Mac....It's not all doom and gloom.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

I agree 100%. Which is why I hated how Schwartz was acting with Dez and his comments about him after the game. Show more respect for the game. Let the players get into the trash talk, media bashing, whatever you wanna call it. Just give the other team/players respect and move on.


Already seems like he doesn't know how to handle winning. Now I'm not gonna act like he doesn't have every right to be extremely happy, as does any Detroit fan, but go about it with some class. Schwartz doesn't seem to have any.


I've always felt that way, no matter what scenario, team, period.


Some guys don't know how to handle how to win. You will see it with their fan base week after week. I am sure some of them are thinking playoffs and have matchups all planned out. You will see them yell and scream about power rankings soon after about not getting any respect as if they have been winning all their lives.

That's the thing I hate. Also, I find myself defending divisional rivals against other teams fans. Not all the time, but when a historically bad franchise's fan base starts talking smack, it bothers me.

I feel like since we are all in the same division we have the right to rip you guys. In fact, it's fun! But... when other teams fan bases do it, especially from a historically bad team, I feel like I got to jump in and defend our div. fans.

I wouldn't do it with DC or the Eagles though. DC is always been bad, and you see it from their fan base too now! I forgot about them! The Eagles never, I hate their fan base more than the team. So that leaves you guys. I actually don't mind the fan base. Just hate the team more.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

The Giants are playing pretty well, but how long can they keep this up with their injury situation?

Mac,

Your quess is as good as anyone else. The thing is we are getting people back too. Osi came back and had 2 sacks. Tuck didn't play, but Tolly had 2 sacks too. Boley is playing very well. Greg Jones our rookie MLB is coming along as well as J. Williams who is doing the best out of the LBs.

Prince is going to come back which will give more depth to the CB position and Ramses Barden and Koets (offensive line). We still have a lot of decent guys on the PS and inactive. So we are not totally code red.

We can't afford any more IR people. Our offensive line needs to gel too. If that can happen I think it's a very open NFC East.

I just hope all this pressure gets to Romo week after week and something can happen. If he has a poor game next game, I think that would be a good step to the drama in Dallas.

[Macarthur]

Mac,

Your quess is as good as anyone else. The thing is we are getting people back too. Osi came back and had 2 sacks. Tuck didn't play, but Tolly had 2 sacks too. Boley is playing very well. Greg Jones our rookie MLB is coming along as well as J. Williams who is doing the best out of the LBs.

Prince is going to come back which will give more depth to the CB position and Ramses Barden and Koets (offensive line). We still have a lot of decent guys on the PS and inactive. So we are not totally code red.

We can't afford any more IR people. Our offensive line needs to gel too. If that can happen I think it's a very open NFC East.

I just hope all this pressure gets to Romo week after week and something can happen. If he has a poor game next game, I think that would be a good step to the drama in Dallas.

Fair enough. IMO, Dallas and NY are two teams that are the best positioned teams to win it. Wash has a really strong defense, but I still keep going back to Grossman and I would just be shocked if he can lead them to a 10-6 season.

[D-Unit]

Does anyone else notice how quiet our stadium is compared to others around the league? Stafford was able to use hard counts all game long and Troy had commented a few times on how the crowd noise is always low in the new stadium.

It just doesn't seem like the crowd make-up has the right kind of personalities among them to get loud. Seems to be a lot of white collared businessman types at the games instead of lunatics, which is really what we need lol.

IDK, maybe it's just me... but we must have the softest crowds in the entire league.
Maybe it's the hole in the roof. Minny plays in a dome. It's bound to get loud.

Or maybe, most of the lunatics are watching the dancing girls on raised platforms rather than the game. lol.

[E-Man]

Brooking was on the ticket this morning and defended Romo. He was very defensive about Romo and even took a shot at Cooley.

Okay, here goes. I'm going to come on here and try to talk everyone off the cliff. Sitting at 2-2 coming out of the bye is a pretty decent position to be in. Look, I know Romo has had two really bad meltdowns, but lets not forget, while you can lay two losses at his feet, I don't think we win twice without him. Let's all remember back to 2009 when he started the year out with a very similar game against the Giants at home. He went on to only throw 6 INTs the rest of the season, so he has shown that he can control his errors for an extended period of time.

Let's me honest. After all the injuries, youth, new defensive system, etc., pretty much the feeling we all had was that if we could get to the bye at 2-2, we could be in a good spot to have a strong finish. Granted, the two wins and two losses certainly aren't how we invisioned them, but crazy things happen in the NFL.

I still think we are in a good position to win this division. The Giants are playing pretty well, but how long can they keep this up with their injury situation? The EAgles have issue that, IMO, go right to the core and are not fixable during a season. The Skins have Grossman and I do not think he can keep them much above .500.

This division is very winnable. Let's all take a deep breath and let Garrett go to work here. He did do a good job with this thing down the stretch. The youth is going to get better as the season goes along and coming out of the bye, we should be as healthy as we have been all season.

I know it's hard after such a kick to groin, but there is some reason for optimism.

Oh, and back to comments by Deion and Cooley. Deion is not in the category of Aikman, Emmitt, Pearson, Staubauch, etc. He does not get cart blance to be the spokesman for the Metroplex and all of Cowboy nation. As for Cooley, what a dewsh. Try doing something on the field before....oh, that's right, he lost his job. Nevermind, I think that's all that needs to be said about that tool.

Hehe it's nice to see some optimism. The classic knee jerk Cowboy fan nature has really made things seem dreary around here in the DFW when the same people were just wanting to win 1 game before the bye. All things considered the team is in great shape, and if Romo limits his mistakes we're talking about them being 4-0 right now. People are just piling on because that's what they do. If they beat New England everyone will act as if the game against the Lions never happened. This is looking like 2009 all over again.

Edit: I'm still pissed at how that game ended, but there is still a long way to go in the season. No need to go off the deep end when there is a ton of more football left to play with being only one game behind.

[Macarthur]

Maybe it's the hole in the roof. Minny plays in a dome. It's bound to get loud.

Or maybe, most of the lunatics are watching the dancing girls on raised platforms rather than the game. lol.

I heard a guy on the postgame of the Skins game that was leaving the stadium and he said it was really loud. It's not the Metrodome, but I think it gets louder in there than some give it credit for.

[Trogdor]

I heard a guy on the postgame of the Skins game that was leaving the stadium and he said it was really loud. It's not the Metrodome, but I think it gets louder in there than some give it credit for.

We also have enough class not to be the Saints and Vikings and pump artificial sound into the stadium.

[Macarthur]

We also have enough class not to be the Saints and Vikings and pump artificial sound into the stadium.

good point.

[D-Unit]

Brooking was on the ticket this morning and defended Romo. He was very defensive about Romo and even took a shot at Cooley.

Okay, here goes. I'm going to come on here and try to talk everyone off the cliff. Sitting at 2-2 coming out of the bye is a pretty decent position to be in. Look, I know Romo has had two really bad meltdowns, but lets not forget, while you can lay two losses at his feet, I don't think we win twice without him. Let's all remember back to 2009 when he started the year out with a veyr similar game against the Giants at home. He went on to only throw 6 INTs the rest of the season, so he has shown that he can control his errors for an extended period of time.

Let's me honest. After all the injuries, youth, new defensive system, etc., pretty much the feeling we all had was that if we could get to the bye at 2-2, we could be in a good spot to have a strong finish. Granted, the two wins and two losses certainly aren't how we invisioned them, but crazy things happen in the NFL.

I still think we are in a good position to win this division. The Giants are playing pretty well, but how long can they keep this up with their injury situation? The EAgles have issue that, IMO, go right to the core and are not fixable during a season. The Skins have Grossman and I do not think he can keep them much above .500.

This division is very winnable. Let's all take a deep breath and let Garrett go to work here. He did do a good job with this thing down the stretch. The youth is going to get better as the season goes along and coming out of the bye, we should be as healthy as we have been all season.

I know it's hard after such a kick to groin, but there is some reason for optimism.

Oh, and back to comments by Deion and Cooley. Deion is not in the category of Aikman, Emmitt, Pearson, Staubauch, etc. He does not get cart blance to be the spokesman for the Metroplex and all of Cowboy nation. As for Cooley, what a dewsh. Try doing something on the field before....oh, that's right, he lost his job. Nevermind, I think that's all that needs to be said about that tool.
That's good to hear about Brooking. We need our good players to follow his lead. He's such a high character guy.

As for us being 2-2 right now... While we could have been 4-0 right now, and optimism seems to be deserved, don't ignore the thought that we could easily be 0-4 as well. EASILY.

Of course, being positive is what our team needs, I think the things we have discussed as far as their problems are real issues. So it's not hate talk or "classic knee jerk Cowboy fan nature" as E-Man says. ...eh, well, maybe it is knee jerk, but the concerns are real. The problems that we have are not "first timers". They are apart of a long history trend that has been here from their beginnings and still hasn't gone away.

I think maybe the reason why it's considered "knee jerk" is because we're SO QUICK to want to forgive and praise. So quick to want to say that we're finally past our old problems. So quick to want to show support as fans naturally do. So quick to want to believe in our team that when old habits arise that dash our praises and beliefs...that we get hurt. It hurts to lose and the human nature in men is that we always want to "fix things". ...and fix them fast ...and when fixing things are out of our own capability, then voicing our "fixes" is sometimes the next best thing we can do.

In the end... the world is not gonna end and the Cowboys are there for us for our entertainment purposes, so nothing should ever be considered severe. I'm ready to have fun and cheer the Boys on win or lose. Thanks for the optimism Mac! :)

[LonghornsLegend]

Well, anyone bashing Romo is certainly not "knee-jerk". This has been happening for a long time now. And frankly, anytime you have two historic collapses in the 4th quarter, out of the first 4 games, there is a very good reason to be furious/upset/concerned or whatever you wanna call it.


I'm tired of just settling. Well hey guys, 2-2 isn't that bad right? I mean, other then the fact that our QB lost 2 games we handedly won but at least we won something!


Yea right...I don't think were doomed or anything, but if were being honest with ourselves Romo & Garret both deserve to get trashed these whole 2 weeks. There really isn't another way to put it.

[E-Man]

It's not the bashing of Romo that I call knee jerk. In a way it is, but he deserves it. I'm talking about how people act like the season is lost and ****. It's more of a local beef though.

[LonghornsLegend]

It's not the bashing of Romo that I call knee jerk. In a way it is, but he deserves it. I'm talking about how people act like the season is lost and ****. It's more of a local beef though.

Ah well, I'm just used to that being a Cowboy fan. Listening to the radio around here after a loss is always like the season is over lol. I've just noticed that it seems to be a down year for the NFC East, it's a perfect chance to take advantage and win the division.


I want to see Tony in the playoffs 1 more time, because I can't really fault him for anything that's happened in the playoffs up to this point. He would have a chance to prove alot of people wrong, and I don't think there is anyone in the NFC we can't beat.


All the teams I thought were gonna be elite really aren't. You have GB and NO. Philly, ATL, NYG, & Chicago all have huge issues with their team.


But, we have got to learn how to close games out right now, we can't expect it to magically happen in January just because. It becomes 2nd nature, and we have to establish a routine for these types of games and stick to it. Otherwise, it'll be a re-occuring theme.

[yanksknicks]

Ah well, I'm just used to that being a Cowboy fan. Listening to the radio around here after a loss is always like the season is over lol. I've just noticed that it seems to be a down year for the NFC East, it's a perfect chance to take advantage and win the division.


I want to see Tony in the playoffs 1 more time, because I can't really fault him for anything that's happened in the playoffs up to this point. He would have a chance to prove alot of people wrong, and I don't think there is anyone in the NFC we can't beat.


All the teams I thought were gonna be elite really aren't. You have GB and NO. Philly, ATL, NYG, & Chicago all have huge issues with their team.


But, we have got to learn how to close games out right now, we can't expect it to magically happen in January just because. It becomes 2nd nature, and we have to establish a routine for these types of games and stick to it. Otherwise, it'll be a re-occuring theme.

So the NYG and Seattle losses don't bother you?

[FreshBoy!]

So the NYG and Seattle losses don't bother you?

Those really weren't on tony. Hell he had the game winning drive to get them in FG range for the Seahawks game....and the defense still had time after the fumbled kick to make a stop.

After the Giants game was when they should've overhauled the OL...

[D-Unit]

Those really weren't on tony. Hell he had the game winning drive to get them in FG range for the Seahawks game....and the defense still had time after the fumbled kick to make a stop.

After the Giants game was when they should've overhauled the OL...
Bingo Bango!

Oddly enough, the guy with the worst performance in that game is still here... Hello Kyle Kosier. How are you enjoying that extension?

Doh.

[yanksknicks]

Bingo Bango!

Oddly enough, the guy with the worst performance in that game is still here... Hello Kyle Kosier. How are you enjoying that extension?

Doh.

With all due respect, Gurode was lost that second half.

As much as you dislike Kosier, he is still around for a reason and Colombo, Davis, Gurode and Flo are gone for a reason too.

Put Kosier back into the running game that pulls, traps, sweeps and you have a pretty good ball player. Same for Free.

Not road graters yet our running game still relegates our OL to in-line blockers.

[yanksknicks]

Those really weren't on tony. Hell he had the game winning drive to get them in FG range for the Seahawks game....and the defense still had time after the fumbled kick to make a stop.

After the Giants game was when they should've overhauled the OL...

So dropping a snap in Seattle is not on Tony? Or the fact he could not find open WR all day versus a Seahawks secondary with no starting CBs and one CB signed off the street for the game??????

Or his horrid second half versus the Giants? The throw into quadruple coverage for the RW McQuarters pick off? 18/36 for 201 yards? 336 yards to the GMen 230. 36 minutes possession for Cowboys to 23. We scored 3 points in the second half essentially with our first possession of the 3rd Q? GMen scored at the beginning of the 4th and Cowboys did nothing the entire fourth.

I dunno, but not very distinguished. At some point, to me, it is all about the QB making plays when it matters..... that is POSITIVE PLAYS when it matters.

[Witten4HOF]

I completely understand the fire Romo is taking is justifiable, but seems like everyone is ignoring the fact that JG isn't lighting up the world with his game management skills. He's been equally bipolar as Tony early in the season, starting with the reverse called in the Jets game in which Miles was injured. First, the reverse NEVER works on a veteran defense. Second, why use your star WR who is already banged up coming into the game in a dangerous situation as that. Clearly the absence of Miles has impacted the offense and put even more pressure on Tony to make the Spectacular play rather than the routine. As for the Detroit game, leading 27-3 with 10:30 left in the third quarter... First play of the drive a play action boot that resulted in the bad throw to Bobby Carpenter. Yes, it was a forced play that Romo should have tossed 10 yards out of bounds, but why even call that play. Your young o-line is playing the best game of the season against one of the best d-lines in the league. Reward the big fellas, let them come up hill and punch the defense in the mouth, dictate the game, inch to the sticks, and most important of all KEEP THE CLOCK ROLLING. This was the hardest I have seen the backs hit the hole all season, consistent 3-4 yard gains that were not properly utilized. Next drive JG finally seems to get locked it calling a 5 to 1 run to pass ratio accounting for 30 yards and running apx 4:00 min off of the clock. On third and two in Detroit territory I don't blame Garrett for choosing a pass play, but he definitely went to the well to many times with the quick slant. Yes, Robinson should have fought harder to cut on the ball resulting in the INT, but Houston jumping the route was inevitable. He was burnt on the same play several times JG didn't run any variation on the route to keep him honest. Where was the double move off of the slant... Slugo anyone or even an out off a quick stab to the inside. Even if he chose to run and the play was stuffed McBriar would be in position the pin the offense inside of the twenty and live to fight another down. From there the entire team lost confidence and imploded.

[D-Unit]

I completely understand the fire Romo is taking is justifiable, but seems like everyone is ignoring the fact that JG isn't lighting up the world with his game management skills. He's been equally bipolar as Tony early in the season, starting with the reverse called in the Jets game in which Miles was injured. First, the reverse NEVER works on a veteran defense. Second, why use your star WR who is already banged up coming into the game in a dangerous situation as that. Clearly the absence of Miles has impacted the offense and put even more pressure on Tony to make the Spectacular play rather than the routine. As for the Detroit game, leading 27-3 with 10:30 left in the third quarter... First play of the drive a play action boot that resulted in the bad throw to Bobby Carpenter. Yes, it was a forced play that Romo should have tossed 10 yards out of bounds, but why even call that play. Your young o-line is playing the best game of the season against one of the best d-lines in the league. Reward the big fellas, let them come up hill and punch the defense in the mouth, dictate the game, inch to the sticks, and most important of all KEEP THE CLOCK ROLLING. This was the hardest I have seen the backs hit the hole all season, consistent 3-4 yard gains that were not properly utilized. Next drive JG finally seems to get locked it calling a 5 to 1 run to pass ratio accounting for 30 yards and running apx 4:00 min off of the clock. On third and two in Detroit territory I don't blame Garrett for choosing a pass play, but he definitely went to the well to many times with the quick slant. Yes, Robinson should have fought harder to cut on the ball resulting in the INT, but Houston jumping the route was inevitable. He was burnt on the same play several times JG didn't run any variation on the route to keep him honest. Where was the double move off of the slant... Slugo anyone or even an out off a quick stab to the inside. Even if he chose to run and the play was stuffed McBriar would be in position the pin the offense inside of the twenty and live to fight another down. From there the entire team lost confidence and imploded.
Great points! Made some that I didn't think of, but it makes sense.

Welcome to the forum! Hope you stick around.

[leroyisgod]

Now I know why I haven't come to the board since the loss. I'll see you guys in a week and a half, hopefully.