Professional Wrestling Thread

[portermvp84]

Whose the better champoin Big Show or King Booker?

[TitleTown088]

whats the WWE?

[portermvp84]

Are you kiding me?

[TitleTown088]

Are you kiding me?

no, i'm not a 10 year old redneck from alabama who thinks this is real... :wink:

[portermvp84]

lol......World wrestling Entertainment.

[eazyb81]

screw WWE, where's the TNA thread?

Let's get some Angle-Joe discussion going....

[Splat]

I just watch ECW I know I know it is not the same blah blah blah but it is better then Raw or SD.

[P-L]

How about we just make this a wrestling thread?

[Splat]

Are you kiding me?

no, i'm not a 10 year old redneck from alabama who thinks this is real... :wink:

We know it is not real but fans watch it for entertainment just like you would watch a football game or TV show for entertainment.

[WMD]

BOW DOWN BEFORE YOUR GOD!!

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[TitleTown088]

Are you kiding me?

no, i'm not a 10 year old redneck from alabama who thinks this is real... :wink:

We know it is not real but fans watch it for entertainment just like you would watch a football game or TV show for entertainment.

was a joke mi amigo.

[jayceheathman]

I only watch Raw out of all the wrestling shows.

[Splat]

I don't know anyone that likes SD.

[Vince Lombardi]

You've gotta love this guys passion. (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1644737) :lol:

My boys:
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[Brodeur]

screw WWE, where's the TNA thread?

Let's get some Angle-Joe discussion going....

Must find way to see greatness.

[Splat]

CM Punk owns!!! 8)

[bearsfan_51]

I don't know anyone that likes SD.
The Boogeyman is the greatest gimmick in the history of wrestling.

[Fred Savage]

Your about 5 months too late
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21610

[portermvp84]

screw WWE, where's the TNA thread?

Let's get some Angle-Joe discussion going....

Must find way to see greatness.

F*** TNA WWE is the better brand. Name TNA's best wrestler and I'll top it with 10 better wrestlers from the WWE.

[Fred Savage]

BOW DOWN BEFORE YOUR GOD!!

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WWE Writing Staff: Hello Shelton, heres the thing, you have amazing talent. You're probally the most athletic wrestler we have ever seen and do some of the most incredible things in the ring I have ever seen. Here's the problem, you have absolutly no charisma.

[Creek]

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[M.O.T.H.]

I havent watched wrestling since I was like 12 but, I did turn to it the other day and saw this enormous, horse steroid using beast. I dont know his name but, he was wrestling Booker T. Who is he?

[TheBoss]

Haven't watched any wrestling since 2001.

This might be the only time I ever say anything like this, but half naked girls wrestling ruined the WWF.

[WMD]

I havent watched wrestling since I was like 12 but, I did turn to it the other day and saw this enormous, horse steroid using beast. I dont know his name but, he was wrestling Booker T. Who is he?

That would be Batista.. He isn't half bad.

[jayceheathman]

One year ago today Eddie Guerrero past away. :(
RIP

[Brodeur]

I havent watched wrestling since I was like 12 but, I did turn to it the other day and saw this enormous, horse steroid using beast. I dont know his name but, he was wrestling Booker T. Who is he?

That would be Batista.. He isn't half bad.

Yes he is. After his 8th arm injury, he's horrific.

[portermvp84]

The survivor series teams are pretty good. I have a strong feeling Jon Cena's team comes out on top.

[comahan]

So, im at work and have absolutely nothing to do, so...


TNA Primetime special tonight
Great card for a television show.

- Joe vs Jay Lethal

Table Match
- Team 3D vs The Naturals

X-Division Title Match
- AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels vs Chris Sabin

Barbed Wire Steel Cage Match
- Christian Cage vs. Rhino

- Kurt Angle vs. Abyss

Those are the scheduled matches on TNAWrestling.com, LAX and Sting among others should make appearances too. This is also the last show until Genesis this Sunday. Tonights show starts at 9EST and will be a two hour show on Spike TV, which is big for TNA.


TNA Genesis
Sun Nov 19

World Title Match
- Sting vs Abyss

- Joe vs Angle

LAX will probably take on AMW for the tag titles, I have no idea what is going on with the X-Division Title.


TNA
All in all I love TNA and most of its talent. The Joe vs Angle feud should be huge, huge, HUGE. I'm hoping for a trilogy or something similar, that ends up putting Joe over.

I like the Idea of a Sting vs. Abyss feud. It reminds me of Vader and Sting from the early/mid 90's. Sting and James Mitchell should have some good promos too.

The X-Division confuses me at the moment. AJ has the belt, which he took from Sabin after he had it for two weeks. They're building up Sabin as a cocky heel, which is cool. Senshi (Low Ki) is no where to be found. At least Lethal and Dutt have cut the Jackass/Mortal Kombat BS. They seemed to hint that Daniels was jealous or something of the sort of AJ, which i am hoping for, cause a Hell Fallen Angel, is a good Fallen Angel. Also, they need more Petey Williams. He is popular cause of the Canadian Destroyer, but his overall wrestling ability gets overlooked.

I love Christian, but they need to end this feud with Rhino after this steel cage match tonight. Christian seems to be the top heel at the moment, with Jarrett disappearing and promos hinting a babyface turn (....) I think Christian faces Sting for the title next month and wins it.

LAX is the best thing in TNA right now. Homicide is an amazing wrestler, Konnan is great at cutting promos and Hernandez has been surprising, in a very good way. Did you see him jump off the top of the cage at BFG? Or the Border Toss on Gail Kim? (lol) Theyre doing a 'burn the american flag' thing tonight. mmmk. Expect an AMW run in.

The Paparazzi is awesome. Kevin Nash is hilarious. Alex Shelley is underused, but still entertaining. and I love Austin Aries' new gimmick of THE Austin Starr.

The New Age Outlaws/James Gang/Voodoo Kin Mafia thing is dumb. Period. TNA needs to shutup about the WWE, and focus on their own damn company. Also, Kip James, Stop saying Suck it. Dammit.

Looks like Raven is getting a new Flock, its a spoiler somewhat so i wont go into it, but Matt Bentley is obviously in it, as he has been acting, and dressing like Raven for a few weeks. At least theyre giving him a gimmick.

The Bobby(Robert, excuse me) Roode push is fine, but im not a fan of Traci Brooks. Roode had a very nice rolling one legged boston crab the other night, but he is still kinda bland.. hes supposed to be a wall street tyoe guy? Hmm.. Id prefer CLAUDIO baby. European Uppercuts ftw.

Thats my view on TNA as of now. Ill do ECW/Smackdown/Raw soon.

[comahan]

December To Dismember is soon, and theyre using the Elimination Chamber. Im not a huge Chamber fan, but oh well.

ECW Title - Extreme Elimination Chamber
- Big Show (c) vs. RVD vs. CM Punk vs. Sabu vs. Lashley vs Test

Show is badly hurt, apparently. Rob Van Dam recently got arrested for pot. uhg. Id love to See CM Punk win it, but its probably too soon. Lashley will probably win it, as Test having the title would kill the company. :x


ECW

I want more Kevin Thorn/Ariel. Im not quite sure why, but I do.

The Big Show might be retiring soon, so if youre a fan, make sure youre able to see his last few matches, as its rumored he might retire as soon as December to Dismember. Hes a good worker for someone who is a legit 530 pounder. And he can cut a good promo, so I'll miss him, even though he isnt the best wrestler.

CM Punk is continuing to be pushed, which is awesome. He's had two nearly ten minute matches the last two weeks, which were both great matches for TV. He is in a Survivor Series match with The Hardy Boyz and DX, so... that a good sign for his future. (Thats not sarcasm, btw.) If that particular SS match is the Main Event, then he will be HEadlining his first two WWE PPV's. (Elimination Chamber, and SS Match) I can't think of the last time that happened. I Love CM Punk and hope he does well in the future. (I want a Benoit vs Punk World Title Match at Wrestlemania dammit!!)

Daivari actually getting time to wrestle is awesome. Not to mention his music is sweet. Khali is fine with me as long as he continues to stay ringside and act as a really really big body guard.

Elijah Burke and Sylvester Terkay on ECW. Hmm. I Love Elijah Burke, and havent really seen Terkay. Burke getting a push would be awesome. He has good mic skills, and is a very good worker. Terkay, the 'manbear' he uh.. well.. looks dangerous.. so.. that works i guess...

Hardcore Holly always main eventing the shows is kind of annoying. I like him.. but I like him as a midcarder that puts guys over, not as a main eventer against RVD.

Matt Striker needs more mic time. He is your teacher.

Mike Knox has impressed the the last few weeks in his matches against Punk. He has good ring psychology, decent moves, and can lay a nasty dropkick for his size. His only bad thing, imo, is his look. He looks the a generic big man that will never get a push, which is lame, cause I like him.

Sandman and Sabu need more time on air dammit. Not cause theyre the best wrestlers (god knows Sandman cant wrestle to save his life) but theyre entertaining.

RVD got busted for pot, and Vinnie Mac apparently doesnt trust him to headline any shows, which is lame, cause he's one of the better workers on the show, and probably the most exciting.

Lastly, turn Punk heel sometime. He's a badass as a heel. He signed his WWE contract on the ROH title belt. That was a sweet moment. Also, Sandman and Punk have gimmicks that just simply scream FEUD.

[bearsfan_51]

Monty Brown signed with the WWE. I highly doubt he ever cracks the mid-card.

I hadn't heard about Big Show. That's dissapointing..I've always liked him a lot. He's real good on the mic.

[comahan]

Smackdown

Someone mentioned earlier that no one thinks Smackdown is a good show, or its no one's favorite (something like that) Well, to me, its the best show, and it is my fav. Its just the fact that its on Friday night that sucks.

Batista... well.. im not a fan really... so.. thats about all i'll say about him, except that I hope Booker beats him at Survivor Series.

Boogeyman, like Bearsfan said, is awesome. He has a smoking staff, a big clock (that he shatters over his head) and he eats worms. That is awesome.

Kendrick and London (Londick!) are the best Tag Team in the WWE. Two great workes who are very exciting to watch. Too bad they have absolutely NO competition in the tag division. :(

Benoit is the best wrestler in the WWE. They continue to use him as a midcarder, which is annoying, but still, hes awesome. His feud with Chavo is annoying as hell. It's embarrassing watching the Eddy Guerrero angles.

Finlay is awesome as well. Great worker, especially for someone who is 47.

Gregory Helms is another great wrestler but PLEASE stop putting him in 1v1 matches with Matt Hardy EVERY week. They put on good matches, but jesus christ.

Use Jamie Noble more, Dammit.

JBL is gold on commentary. He is hilarious.

Jimmy Wang Yang's gimmick is uh.. well.. im not a fan.. but hes a good wrestler, and is entertaining, so i dont really care about his gimmick.

The Kane and MVP feud is hilarious. MVP is amazing at taking hits. Hes great at selling moves. MVP has the best gimmick ever. Everyone thinks he's a joke, but he legitimately thinks that he's the best. Everything with his gimmick is over the top (power ranger tights, his entrance pyro) nad its awesome.

I respect Kane. He is a company guy through and through. He's been asked on multiple occasions to win the Title, but always defers to someone else that could use it more than he could.

Missssssssssteeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Kennnnnnedddeyyyyyyyyyyyyy is another person who is simply awesome. He's not the best in ring worker but he is great to watch, and his entrace is the best in the business.

....Kennedy.

King Booker's gimmick is too good to be true. On most people, this gimmick would have been given up on after a few weeks, but Booker plays it perfectly. It's absolutely hilarious to see him go from British snob back to ghetto Booker T when hes mad. He deserves this world title reign, and i'm glad he got it.

Undertaker is one of my all time fav's. I love having his old gimmick back. (I hated Biker Taker) I hope he puts Kennedy over in the first blood match.

[comahan]

Monty Brown signed with the WWE. I highly doubt he ever cracks the mid-card.

I hadn't heard about Big Show. That's dissapointing..I've always liked him a lot. He's real good on the mic.

I like Monty, but I think youre right.

Show has terrible back issues. Hes been taken off the road for the most part, and taken off of house show schedules. Nowadays he's always in Tag matches, or 3 way matches, or Elimination Chambers so he doesnt have to do much.

[comahan]

I don't feel like doing Raw, but long story short... Shelton is underused, Nitro is awesome, Cena is annoying, Umaga has NO heat even though he's beat the hell out of all the faces (even Maria) Remember when Jake the Snake simply slapped Elizabeth and he immediatley became one of the biggest heels of the era? man... Uhm.. Cryme Tyme is awesome. Rated RKO is cool, Edge being 95% of the coolness. And uhhh.. Flair needs to be a heel again.

[comahan]

As far as i know, Genesis only has 3 scheduled matches going into tonight.




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The Survivor Series card is full, i believe.

Women's Championship
- Lita (c) vs. Mickie James

First Blood Match
- The Undertaker vs. Mr. Kennedy

4v4 Survivor Series Elimination Match
- The Legends [Ric Flair, Roddy Piper, Dusty Rhodes & Sgt. Slaughter] vs. The Spirit Squad

United States Championship
- Chris Benoit (c) vs. Chavo Guerrero

5v5 Survivor Series Elimination Match
- Team Cena [John Cena, Lashley, Kane, RVD & Sabu] vs. Team Show [Big Show, Umaga, MVP, Finlay & Test]

World Heavyweight Championship
- King Booker (c) vs. Batista

5v5 Survivor Series Elimination Match
- Team DX [HHH, Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy & CM Punk] vs. Team Rated RKO [Edge, Randy Orton, Johnny Nitro, Gregory Helms & Mike Knox]

[WMD]

It's sad.. I was going through my old tapes from like.. 2001, and the Big Show was easily 100 pounds lighter, and just all around moved a lot better.. I hate that the WWE did this to him..

[eazyb81]

I'm pumped for the TNA show tonight....i hope it gets good ratings, it should be a great show.

Joe vs Angle at Genesis is going to be sick.


Overall, i'm fully on the TNA bandwagon......WWE is dead to me after all this K-Fed crap. I haven't watched Raw in weeks and don't plan on starting anytime soon.

[Brodeur]

I'm pumped for the TNA show tonight....i hope it gets good ratings, it should be a great show.

Joe vs Angle at Genesis is going to be sick.


Overall, i'm fully on the TNA bandwagon......WWE is dead to me after all this K-Fed crap. I haven't watched Raw in weeks and don't plan on starting anytime soon.

The problem is I don't want either to lose and I don't think either can(Joe/Angle). It's a necessity for it to somehow end with a double DQ of sorts.

[WMD]

Monty Brown signed with the WWE. I highly doubt he ever cracks the mid-card.

I disagree. I think he'll show up on Smackdown and be an Upper-Mid Carder. He's got great charisma and I think that'll help him get over with the fans. The only thing I can see holding Monty back is that Vince won't push him because he's from TNA. If he's given a chance I think he'll do great in WWE.

[eazyb81]

I'm pumped for the TNA show tonight....i hope it gets good ratings, it should be a great show.

Joe vs Angle at Genesis is going to be sick.


Overall, i'm fully on the TNA bandwagon......WWE is dead to me after all this K-Fed crap. I haven't watched Raw in weeks and don't plan on starting anytime soon.

The problem is I don't want either to lose and I don't think either can(Joe/Angle). It's a necessity for it to somehow end with a double DQ of sorts.

You're probably right, and I don't expect this angle to die after Genesis.

I'm guessing something will happen to keep the feud going; it would be a shame if we didn't get a few more matches out of these two.

[WMD]

I'm pumped for the TNA show tonight....i hope it gets good ratings, it should be a great show.

Joe vs Angle at Genesis is going to be sick.


Overall, i'm fully on the TNA bandwagon......WWE is dead to me after all this K-Fed crap. I haven't watched Raw in weeks and don't plan on starting anytime soon.

The problem is I don't want either to lose and I don't think either can(Joe/Angle). It's a necessity for it to somehow end with a double DQ of sorts.

I can see them doing a Time Limit Draw to set up some kind of Iron Man/Submission match later on.

[comahan]

Yea, I dont think either should lose tomorrow either. Like WMD said, a time limit draw would be my preference.

[bearsfan_51]

Monty Brown signed with the WWE. I highly doubt he ever cracks the mid-card.

I disagree. I think he'll show up on Smackdown and be an Upper-Mid Carder. He's got great charisma and I think that'll help him get over with the fans. The only thing I can see holding Monty back is that Vince won't push him because he's from TNA. If he's given a chance I think he'll do great in WWE.
Upper mid-card is that different from mid-card that you disagree with me?

[WMD]

The way I read it made me think you meant you doubt he ever makes it to the mid card.

[bearsfan_51]

The way I read it made me think you meant you doubt he ever makes it to the mid card.
Of, my mistake, I meant that I doubt he ever gets above the mid-card level, ala Christian.

[comahan]

primetime impact is on..

[bearsfan_51]

TNA REEEEALY needs to work on getting better venues now that they are on Primetime TV. The beginning of the show with the confedi and the crowd shot was laughable. It looks like they are wrestling in a garage.

[comahan]

They also need to shutup with WWE stuff.

[Jay]

I hope this wakes D-X the **** up and gets them to stop acting like little kids...

[bearsfan_51]

I hope this wakes D-X the *********** up and gets them to stop acting like little kids...
Quite honestly I doubt that Shawn Michaels and HHH give a **** what Billy Gunn thinks about them.

[Jay]

I buy it, but I don't think it will go without notice. Raw has been slipping the past few months big time, they need something fresh and new. D-X can be funny at times, but they are shadows of their former selves...

[Fred Savage]

they need something fresh and new. ..
That's an understatement. Nothing in the world insults its audience more then the WWE.

[comahan]

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[raiderz4life]

HS wrestling is BETTER

[WMD]

Get out of this thread then, :roll:

[Splat]

I must say TNA owned last night.

[T-RICH49]

I must say TNA owned last night.


I agree.I guess Petey Williams is turining face now since he stopped LAX from burning the flag

[bearsfan_51]

I must say TNA owned last night.


I agree.I guess Petey Williams is turining face now since he stopped LAX from burning the flag
That was quite possibly the lamest thing I've ever seen. I was hoping LAX would burn the damn flag, then I had to hear some patriotic rhetoric from Mike Teney of all people. Shaddup.

[comahan]

Joe vs. Angle tonight, awesome.


Also, someone add a poll to this so it doesnt get pruned.

[eazyb81]

Joe vs. Angle is going to own tonight.

[Rob S]

Joe vs. Angle is going to own tonight.

indeed

[comahan]

That was a great match, imo.

[Splat]

That was a great match, imo.

Who won?

[WMD]

That was a great match, imo.

Who won?

Spoiler::::
Kurt Angle made Joe tap out

[portermvp84]

When did Angle go TNA? He should come back to raw.

[comahan]

:?

[portermvp84]

Anybody think Hardy will come out on top tonight over Nitro in the ladder match?

[Splat]

Hardy is going to drop the belt to clear his way to be in ECW with in a week or two I knew Kurt would beat Joe.

[WMD]

Let's mark our spoilers folks.. Some people might not have watched the TNA PPV yet

[Splat]

Let's mark our spoilers folks.. Some people might not have watched the TNA PPV yet

I didn't watch it how was it rate it 1-10 with 10 being great.

[WMD]

Ha, I don't know, I didn't watch it either.. I haven't ordered a wrestling PPV in a while.. I've read good things, and I've read bad things.

[Splat]

I used to be die hard I mean die hard Raw fan I never missed a show I even watched Sunday Night Heat but it will never be the same. There is just no way to top Stone Cold,The Rock,DX,The Undertaker ect ect all in there prime. They had so many good tag teams to and now the tag team Div is a joke I don't watch Raw that much any more and have not watched SD in years. It used to be Raw was great for the whole 2 hours every week and now it is only good in spots I kinda hope TNA does good so maybe Raw will step it up.

[comahan]

Id say it was an 8.

(Doing my best to not mention any outcomes or anything)

The Angle/Joe match was great, id say it is TNA's Match of the Year. The Christian Cage/AJ Styles match was really good too, with a surprise after the match. The LAX/AMW match was decent, and the after effects pissed me off. Kevin Nash was also on commentary for the Austin Starr(Aries)/Alex Shelley match against Hoyt and Killings. Nash on commentary = gold. The X-Title match between Daniels and Sabin was really good too. Sabin has started playing the heel role beautifully. The Abyss/Sting match was okay, with another wierd ending.

The negatives.. Robert Roode didnt make the PPV... AGAIN.. and hes supposed to be getting a big push. Voodoo Kin Mafia (James Gang/New Age Outlaws) made me embarrased to watch TNA while they were out there. There were also a few hella confusing moments. I also think Joe/Angle should have been given more time.

Overall the first half of the PPV was average to below average, while the second half was great, imo.

[WMD]

Voodoo Kin Mafia (James Gang/New Age Outlaws) made me embarrased to watch TNA while they were out there.

Vince Russo is so childish.. Combined with The Roadie and Rockabilly, they come off as the most bitter trio of people in the wrestling business.

Voodoo Kin Mafia ... Vincent Kennedy McMahon.. Ooh, Ha Ha, I get it. What a jab at the WWE, with that one.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Could they come off as more bush league?

[Splat]

Ya I know it will be really funny when Vince ends up owning TNA to.

[WMD]

Ya I know it will be really funny when Vince ends up owning TNA to.

Outside of the X Division, I don't see what else Vince would want from TNA.

[comahan]

Voodoo Kin Mafia (James Gang/New Age Outlaws) made me embarrased to watch TNA while they were out there.

Vince Russo is so childish.. Combined with The Roadie and Rockabilly, they come off as the most bitter trio of people in the wrestling business.

Voodoo Kin Mafia ... Vincent Kennedy McMahon.. Ooh, Ha Ha, I get it. What a jab at the WWE, with that one.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Could they come off as more bush league?

Yea, theres a lot of good things going on in TNA, but this overshadows all of it, and makes TNA look desperate.

Seeing as how most of TNA's audience is the Internet fanbase, and they market mostly online, they should take a hint that NO ONE likes this angle, and it makes them look stupid.

[comahan]

Ya I know it will be really funny when Vince ends up owning TNA to.

Outside of the X Division, I don't see what else Vince would want from TNA.

I doubt McMahon would want the X-Division, he hates small guys.

[eazyb81]

Good review, and I would also add that the Sting/Abyss match exceeded my expectations.

[Splat]

AJ Styles is a pimp I'am sure Vince would like to have him I would love to see AJ Styles vs CM Punk.

[bearsfan_51]

The problem with TNA's roster (at least in regards to WWE) is that everyone that is good on the mat sucks on the mic and everyone that is good on the mic sucks at wrestling. Obviously there are some exceptions (Christian) but not many from what I've seen anyway.

Vince Russo is back on TNA? I thought he found Jesus or whatever.

John Cena just called Big Show "poopy butt", *thumbs down*

[bearsfan_51]

Johnny Nitro is a prettier woman than Melina.

[bearsfan_51]

I love ladder matches. That was a real good match.

On a side note, the best match I've ever seen, and I was lucky enough to see it live, was Jeff Hardy vs. Rob Van Dam at the Invasion PPV of July 2001. Absolutely insanity with those two in the ring and a bunch of ladders and tables.

[WMD]

That was your favorite? It was good, but definately not the best match (IMO of course) that even had a ladder in it..

TLC2 from Wrestlemania X7 is probably my favorite. Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon at Wrestlemania 10 was classic.. .. Also, the Eddie Guerrero/RVD Ladder Match from Raw a few years back is very underrated.

[bearsfan_51]

That was your favorite? It was good, but definately not the best match (IMO of course) that even had a ladder in it..

TLC2 from Wrestlemania X7 is probably my favorite. Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon at Wrestlemania 10 was classic.. .. Also, the Eddie Guerrero/RVD Ladder Match from Raw a few years back is very underrated.
Well I was there live. That obviously makes me very biased.

[WMD]

That was your favorite? It was good, but definately not the best match (IMO of course) that even had a ladder in it..

TLC2 from Wrestlemania X7 is probably my favorite. Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon at Wrestlemania 10 was classic.. .. Also, the Eddie Guerrero/RVD Ladder Match from Raw a few years back is very underrated.
Well I was there live. That obviously makes me very biased.

Yeah. I was at Vengeance 2002 Live, for some reason it never got a big release on DVD.. I was in the 12th Row, I think.. Right on the aisle.. I got good pictures of some of the entrances.. Anywho, The Undertaker/Rock/Angle triple threat match was awesome.. that is all.

[comahan]

Decent show, great ladder match for a tv match though.

On a side note, they should change the name of ECW, it would get WAY less hate if it werent named ECW, because people compare it to the mid-90's company, while in reality, they have maybe one 'extreme rules' match a month. It does have some good wrestlers though. Punk/Burke/RVD/Sabu/Lashley/Show/Daivari/Striker/Knox/Dreamer/Sandman are all entertaining, at least. And the Hardyz will be there tomorrow as well.

And while we're on the subject of favorite matches. My fav ladder match was TLC II, my fav overall wwf/e match is probably Hart/Michaels Ironman, but there are a lot.

[bearsfan_51]

Decent show, great ladder match for a tv match though.

On a side note, they should change the name of ECW, it would get WAY less hate if it werent named ECW, because people compare it to the mid-90's company, while in reality, they have maybe one 'extreme rules' match a month. It does have some good wrestlers though. Punk/Burke/RVD/Sabu/Lashley/Show/Daivari/Striker/Knox/Dreamer/Sandman are all entertaining, at least. And the Hardyz will be there tomorrow as well.
I think they'll take the hate in exchange for good ratings and merchandise sales that the name provides.

While the internet community is large, it isn't nearly as important to the WWE as it is to smaller promotions like TNA. Clearly by the moves they've done in the past they have little regard for what hardcore minority wrestling fans prefer.

[TitleTown088]

ok so by now i hope all of you are smart enough to realize that it isn't real, so what makes this stuff fun if you know its just an act? just curious.

[comahan]

ok so by now i hope all of you are smart enough to realize that it isn't real, so what makes this stuff fun if you know its just an act? just curious.

Its the same as watching a TV show or a movie. Why watch lord of the rings? The trolls, orcs, wizards, and magic rings arent real.

It's entertainment.



http://pixmixer.com/uploads/images/20060307/full_size/71032_Jack-Evans---630-6.gif

[Splat]

Jeff Hardy + Ladder = Great Match Every time

[portermvp84]

That was one hell of a ladder match last night, that was probably one of raw's best matches in a while. I can't wait to see the Hardy brother reunite on ECW tonight. That captains match last time was so good, there looked like a couple promising teams like Cena's DX's and Big Show's. Then there were a few like SS's and Edge's team. Great Show overall last night.

[Brodeur]

ok so by now i hope all of you are smart enough to realize that it isn't real, so what makes this stuff fun if you know its just an act? just curious.

It's STAGED, it's not fake. I swear to god if I have to explain this again.

[Splat]

ok so by now i hope all of you are smart enough to realize that it isn't real, so what makes this stuff fun if you know its just an act? just curious.

Its the same as watching a TV show or a movie. Why watch lord of the rings? The trolls, orcs, wizards, and magic rings arent real.

It's entertainment.


It is a waste of time you get it or you don't I'am so sick of people saying us fans don't know it is not real when we do.

[T-RICH49]

That was one hell of a ladder match last night, that was probably one of raw's best matches in a while. I can't wait to see the Hardy brother reunite on ECW tonight. That captains match last time was so good, there looked like a couple promising teams like Cena's DX's and Big Show's. Then there were a few like SS's and Edge's team. Great Show overall last night.

Man I loved the opening segmant when all teams came out and cut a promo.LOL at HBK when he said Royal Rumble

[comahan]

Thats 2 times i've heard a TNA chant during an ECW main event, lmao.

[comahan]

TNA is on, btw.

[portermvp84]

That was cool seeing the Hardy boyz reuntingon ECW. I saw Jeff's back was really hurting it will be intersting to see what happens this sunday and see if he hold up alrite.

[comahan]

CM Punk is over HUGE tonight, lots of CM Punk chants, and Trips got him to do the "Are you ready" thing when the fans wouldn't stop chanting for Punk, and he got a huge pop.

[Jay]

The exchange after Mike Knox got eliminated was priceless and worth the price of the PPV all together...

[comahan]

The exchange after Mike Knox got eliminated was priceless and worth the price of the PPV all together...

haha yea

[comahan]

Pretty dissappointing ppv imo... id say 5.5/10...

[diabsoule]

I haven't kept up with wrestling but when I did watch ROH was better than anything I'd ever seen. TNA second and WWE dead last.

[comahan]

I haven't kept up with wrestling but when I did watch ROH was better than anything I'd ever seen. TNA second and WWE dead last.

Yup, I'm an ROH fan also.

[portermvp84]

ROH?

My guess is last night Team Cena won, and team DX won also.

[Splat]

CM Punk is over HUGE tonight, lots of CM Punk chants, and Trips got him to do the "Are you ready" thing when the fans wouldn't stop chanting for Punk, and he got a huge pop.

Punk is the main reason I never miss ECW he is there top star IMO he gets the biggest pop out of anyone when he comes out even bigger then RVD and the crowd is in to his match the whole time no matter who he is in the ring with.

[portermvp84]

What the hell just happened to the Sissy Squad?

[comahan]

I laughed at the OVW sticker.

[T-RICH49]

I despise Edge and Orton.I can't wait til next week when DX destroys them

[portermvp84]

I didn't see the end of Raw can somebody tell the Hardy boys came out on top. They have to be one of the best tags teams out there I hope they destroy MNM.

[Fred Savage]

Raw has been so bad lately. God forbid they change up a story line once in a while. I used to like wrestling more when people would feud for a month or two then that would be it. Now they have these crappy year long feuds that are just repetitive and boring.

[LTgiants]

I didn't see the end of Raw can somebody tell the Hardy boys came out on top. They have to be one of the best tags teams out there I hope they destroy MNM.

i have no idea what you said but the hardyz won b/c edge hit jeff hardy with the belt right before the three count so rated rko are still the champs

[bearsfan_51]

Raw has been so bad lately. God forbid they change up a story line once in a while. I used to like wrestling more when people would feud for a month or two then that would be it. Now they have these crappy year long feuds that are just repetitive and boring.
What year long feud is there?

[comahan]

The longest feuds i can think of are DX/RKO and Flair/Squad and theyve both only been going on for about 6 weeks or so.

The Flair/Squad one is over cause Flair is taking time off for his divorce proceedings, which will actually be on Court TV, so that is why they did the angle last night where Orton/Edge messed him up, that is also why he looked pretty emotional after his match.

[Fred Savage]

The Edge/Cena feud that went on forever and the McMahon/HBK/DX fued. Now the DX/RKO feud will probally go on for a long time. WWE needs to switch things up more often. The same **** every week is really starting to get to me.

[bearsfan_51]

R.V.D vs. Sabu.

I like!!

[T-RICH49]

The Edge/Cena feud that went on forever and the McMahon/HBK/DX fued. Now the DX/RKO feud will probally go on for a long time. WWE needs to switch things up more often. The same *********** every week is really starting to get to me.


DX/Spirit Squad went on awhile too

[bearsfan_51]

The Edge/Cena feud that went on forever and the McMahon/HBK/DX fued. Now the DX/RKO feud will probally go on for a long time. WWE needs to switch things up more often. The same *********** every week is really starting to get to me.
Isn't by switching to DX/RKO and Cena/Umaga changing things?

You could make the argument that things are too static in terms of the professional lader in the WWE, and I would agree, but it's like that in all organizations. How many different ways could TNA do Sting and Jarrett after all?

Part of the problem is that by trying to do 3 shows they are spreading their roster way too thin.

[BigDawg819]

I think the biggest problem with WWE is the Monday Night Wars. That is when the WWE was at its best. They needed to be in order to get people to watch. Without any real competition they assume they can do whatever they want and people will watch. Not only that but the quality of the writers is non-existant in my mind. What the hell is Michael Haynes doing on Smackdown. Its like Batista is the only contender for the World Heavyweight Championship. What about Chris Benoit? He is without a doubt one of the best and most underrated wrestlers of all time. A little variety would help, I mean they let Lashley challenge for the belt at 1 PPV and next thing you know he's shipped off to ECW. Gregory Helms has been crusierweight champ forever because they give him no competition or they don't use him at all. Someone posted earlier about Jamie Noble, he would be an excellent choice for a contender. What Kendrick or London? They obviously are not going to have to defend those worthless tag titles. Or on ECW, when is the last time anyone has seen Sandman? He's in a feud with Matt Striker one week the next he's not even on the show. They have a PPV in less then 2 weeks and only an elimination chamber match and a tag match with 2 guys from RAW, 1 guy from Smackdown, and 1 from OVW where was sent down to for a drug suspension. Who exactly is going to fill the PPV card? Not to mention I thought the E in ECW stood for Extreme? When is the last time on ECW did you see an extreme rules match? These are just a few of the problems ongoing within the WWE, and as a loyal WWE fan I hope that they will be solved soon.

[Splat]

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[portermvp84]

The longest fueds would have to be Mcmahons vs DX that went on forever and all they could do is bring in Spirt Squad and Big Show, that was good for a short time then it got old real fast. Edge/Cena I hated that, they need to mitch it up a little bit. Switch some guys around on Raw, Smackdown, and ECW.

[comahan]

December to Dismember SUCKED. Worst PPV of the year.

Worse than Backlash which featured Vince & Shane vs HBK & God.

[BigDawg819]

Obviously, 4 of the matches came out of nowhere with no build up at all. WWE's mishandling of ECW is incomprehendible. Its almost as if Vince is setting it up to fail just to laugh at Heyman. Not to mention rumors of many of the "originals" upset. ECW is the black eye of the WWE and has no signs of improvement.

[portermvp84]

December to Dismember SUCKED. Worst PPV of the year.

Worse than Backlash which featured Vince & Shane vs HBK & God.


That was so stupid, Was that was the best they could come up with? You could def tell the rating were about shot there.

Who won the big ace steal cage? It couldn't of been the Show. I hope either RVD or Lashly won it.

[jayceheathman]

December to Dismember SUCKED. Worst PPV of the year.

Worse than Backlash which featured Vince & Shane vs HBK & God.


That was so stupid, Was that was the best they could come up with? You could def tell the rating were about shot there.

Who won the big ace steal cage? It couldn't of been the Show. I hope either RVD or Lashly won it.

Lashley won.

[portermvp84]

Was Big Show one of the last?

[comahan]

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

[WMD]

Everything i've heard says the Big Show is taking time off, not retiring.

[comahan]

Everything i've heard says the Big Show is taking time off, not retiring.

Fixed it, but I don't see him coming back.

[LTgiants]

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

wait what exactly happend with sabu who is kayfabe and what exactly happend is xpac on ecw?

and is heyman really fired cause thats messed up what are they gonna do without him

[Creek]

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

wait what exactly happend with sabu who is kayfabe and what exactly happend is xpac on ecw?

and is heyman really fired cause thats messed up what are they gonna do without him


MARK!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[comahan]

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

wait what exactly happend with sabu who is kayfabe and what exactly happend is xpac on ecw?

and is heyman really fired cause thats messed up what are they gonna do without him


MARK!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Come on creek, tell the guy who kayfabe is.

He was a cruserweight in the late 70's. He won a 80 man, 16 ring battle royal where he was in the last ring with the 7 Von Erich's, and he had the claw on every single one of the at once, sealing his victory.

[bigrick0016]

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

wait what exactly happend with sabu who is kayfabe and what exactly happend is xpac on ecw?

and is heyman really fired cause thats messed up what are they gonna do without him

Don't be mean to LT, he just understand your wrestling nerd lingo.

Kayfabe means it's a storyline, and conversely not kayfabe would mean not storyline. So a storyline called for Sabu's beatdown. Where as Heyman got fired for real.

I'm not sure about X-Pac heat, but I believe it's just when you get booed because people hate you, not a character thing.

[WMD]

Yeah, XPac heat is where you get boo'd because the crowd is tired of the person, not the character.

[Creek]

I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4 years old. I've wasted my entire life on this crap, so when someone doesn't know who Kayfabe is, it's my right to laugh and laugh at them. It's all I have. I'm so lonely.

[portermvp84]

Sabu or RVD should of won the match because they really gte the crowd going and they are awesome performers. It was time for Show to loose his title. Haymen was a good GM he new what he was doing, but that PPV sucked. And the WWE is a cut throat job, and I guess it was his time to go.

[BigDawg819]

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joe. For god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.

[T-RICH49]

Is it possible Heyman jumps to TNA as a replacement for Cornette when he leaves?

[bearsfan_51]

I still think it's a work. They are far too open as to why and how he was fired for me to think it's a shoot. Not to mention the article they had on the website where actual wrestlers were coming out in favor of firing him. I don't think so.

I think this may be a work to reconfigure Heyman as one of the original ECWers fighting against the McMahonism of his product. That's obviously a story line they've been leaning towards for a while, and this makes that much more sense.

Or maybe the WWE is just full of assholes.

[bearsfan_51]

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joe. For god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.
Lol. You act like the character of Samoa Joe is at all original either.

Oooh...an angry Samoan. Never seen that one before.

[WMD]

I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4 years old. I've wasted my entire life on this crap, so when someone doesn't know who Kayfabe is, it's my right to laugh and laugh at them. It's all I have. I'm so lonely.

I agree with this. I had a good little chuckle at the kayfaybe thing... I remember back in the day, I was reading the NBA Jam instruction booklet and asked my dad what "Vice Versa" was, and he said he was a player for the Bulls.. :cry: So, it's always fun to poke fun at something like that..

[bearsfan_51]

I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4 years old. I've wasted my entire life on this crap, so when someone doesn't know who Kayfabe is, it's my right to laugh and laugh at them. It's all I have. I'm so lonely.

I agree with this. I had a good little chuckle at the kayfaybe thing... I remember back in the day, I was reading the NBA Jam instruction booklet and asked my dad what "Vice Versa" was, and he said he was a player for the Bulls.. :cry: So, it's always fun to poke fun at something like that..
My picture of Karl Marx looks more like Santa than your picture of Santa.

[WMD]

I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4 years old. I've wasted my entire life on this crap, so when someone doesn't know who Kayfabe is, it's my right to laugh and laugh at them. It's all I have. I'm so lonely.

I agree with this. I had a good little chuckle at the kayfaybe thing... I remember back in the day, I was reading the NBA Jam instruction booklet and asked my dad what "Vice Versa" was, and he said he was a player for the Bulls.. :cry: So, it's always fun to poke fun at something like that..
My picture of Karl Marx looks more like Santa than your picture of Santa.

Tell Marx to cut his damn beard then.

[Splat]

The Big Show is Done.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/bigshowtimeoff

[BigDawg819]

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joe. For god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.
Lol. You act like the character of Samoa Joe is at all original either.

Oooh...an angry Samoan. Never seen that one before.


So here we go again huh bearsfan. I'm not saying that Joe is an original character, I'm saying there is a lack of character development.

[BigDawg819]

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joe. For god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.
Lol. You act like the character of Samoa Joe is at all original either.

Oooh...an angry Samoan. Never seen that one before.


So here we go again huh bearsfan. I'm not saying that Joe is an original character, I'm saying there is a lack of character development.

[Splat]

TNA is on tonight can't wait.

[diabsoule]

TNA is on tonight can't wait.

Their product kicks the crap out of anything that WWE is doing. I watched ECW the other night and it's the same thing that RAW is doing. I had to flip the channel. When I watched Impact! the other day, the wrestling was good, I could tune out Don West, and then they had some pretty funny statement with Kevin Nash, Alex Shelley, and pee in a cup.

The only TNA needs to do is let AJ Styles do his talking in the ring like the way old ECW had Chris Benoit do. Styles was, is, and will always be horrible at promos.

[Splat]

TNA is on tonight can't wait.

Their product kicks the crap out of anything that WWE is doing. I watched ECW the other night and it's the same thing that RAW is doing. I had to flip the channel. When I watched Impact! the other day, the wrestling was good, I could tune out Don West, and then they had some pretty funny statement with Kevin Nash, Alex Shelley, and pee in a cup.

The only TNA needs to do is let AJ Styles do his talking in the ring like the way old ECW had Chris Benoit do. Styles was, is, and will always be horrible at promos.

I agree with all of that and this is coming from a huge WWE fan but TNA is just putting out a better show as of now and yes AJ should never talk but he is a stud in the ring. They have just killed ECW I new it would not be like it was back in the day but they just killed it it was starting to get better but now it is just going down hill fast.

[portermvp84]

Since Lashley won the title does that offically make him an ECW man?

[Splat]

Since Lashley won the title does that offically make him an ECW man?

Ya he is on the ECW roster list he won't be back on SD the rumor was the guy that does the story line for SD and BL don't get along.

[bearsfan_51]

I want to like TNA as I was a big fan of WCW, but they really need to clean up their production value. I still feel like I'm watching something at the carnival or someone's garage. The crowd and the venue are pathetic. The best thing they have going for them right now is that they aren't the WWE, and there is so much angst against the WWE right now. If there was a better 2nd product, I don't think anyone would care about TNA.

[bearsfan_51]

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joer god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.
Lol. You act like the character of Samoa Joe is at all original either.

Oooh...an angry Samoan. Never seen that one before.


So here we go again huh bearsfan. I'm not saying that Joe is an original character, I'm saying there is a lack of character development.
From here on out, I'm not actually going to respond to you, just bold what you actually said, as opposed to what you think you said, since you obviously have no idea how to tell the difference between the two.

[T-RICH49]

Did anyone watch Impact tonight?I missed it and would like details

[BigDawg819]

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joer god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.
Lol. You act like the character of Samoa Joe is at all original either.

Oooh...an angry Samoan. Never seen that one before.


So here we go again huh bearsfan. I'm not saying that Joe is an original character, I'm saying there is a lack of character development.
From here on out, I'm not actually going to respond to you, just bold what you actually said, as opposed to what you think you said, since you obviously have no idea how to tell the difference between the two.


Well then I guess I will let go of the fact that you can't control yourself from attempting to make yourself seem superior in all posts. My statement was that Umaga was a generic knock off of Samoa Joe, that does not say that Joe is an original character. Maybe if you would just read posts for what they are and not twist around them or form your own intent these things wouldn't become arguements thru posts.

[Splat]

Did anyone watch Impact tonight?I missed it and would like details

It was good pretty much just a lead up to there PPV sunday Sting was still trying to befriend ABYSS they shook hands but then ABYSS turned on him hit him with The Black Hole Slam or what ever they call his move. There was a pretty good segment with the VKM aka BA and Road Dogg making fun of John Cena's movie The Marine. They booked a match for "THE PHENOMENAL" AJ STYLES vs "THE WAR MACHINE" RHINO after they got in to a little fist fight no moves just hitting each other should be a great match. There was a pretty good X-Div match to start off the show with 3 guys I don't know I'm some what new to watching TNA but it was a nice match. The end of the show was a Sting vs ABYSS vs Angle vs Christian vs Joe and Rhino was going to be in it as well but AJ took him out on his way down to the ring the match sounds better then it was it was a good match just to short. Kurt Angle won the match after he turned on Joe and hit him with his slam Joe never saw it coming the first heel type move Kurt has done in TNA.

[bearsfan_51]

I personally think the segments with Gunn and Road Dogg are terrible.

Yes DX sucks. That doesn't mean you assclowns are any funnier. Seriously, Billy Gunn? Billy Gunn is going to call out Shawn Michaels. Good one.

It just makes TNA look second rate, you don't see WWE talking about them at all. It's the same stuff WWF did with the Nacho Man and Billionare Ted, it's cheesy and kinda desperate for attention.

[Splat]

O one more thing it was just an hour I thought TNA was two hours now?

[comahan]

Sweet PPV.

The matches in this were great, but the backstage stuff, VKM skits, and the bikini contest brought it down.

Again, not giving any results...

The X-Division 5-way elimination match was good, the PCS (mock of the BCS, except with X-Division wrestlers) is kinda cool, and Nash on commentary is awesome. Loved the result.

The tag match was good, I love Gail Kim :oops:, LAX is still one of the most entertaining things in all of wrestling.

Daniels vs Sabin with Jerry Lynn as Ref was good too. I liked the small swerve at the end. Im looking forward to a possible Jerry f'n Lynn in-ring return. Also, i loved the clean finish in this match, there arent many of those anymore, sadly.

The AJ/Rhino match was awesome for what it was, and it wasnt really a match. AJ plays a sweet heel, and I like how their styles mix.

The triple threat match for the NWA title wasn't anything special, but again.. i loved the result. Also, Tomko looks awesome.

Then theres Joe/Angle. I ordered Genesis last month with HUGE expectations, and was semi-let down. I entered this match just hoping that they can perform to how i know they can, and that is 2 of the best guys in the business. This match was FANTASTIC. This is what i was expecting the first time around. False finishes, great counters, great spots, and a good submission finish, in which I love the end result. I don't know if id call it a 5 star match, but it is no doubt in my mind the TNA MOTY, and a global candidate for it.

[T-RICH49]

Sweet PPV.

The matches in this were great, but the backstage stuff, VKM skits, and the bikini contest brought it down.

Again, not giving any results...

The X-Division 5-way elimination match was good, the PCS (mock of the BCS, except with X-Division wrestlers) is kinda cool, and Nash on commentary is awesome. Loved the result.

The tag match was good, I love Gail Kim :oops:, LAX is still one of the most entertaining things in all of wrestling.

Daniels vs Sabin with Jerry Lynn as Ref was good too. I liked the small swerve at the end. Im looking forward to a possible Jerry f'n Lynn in-ring return. Also, i loved the clean finish in this match, there arent many of those anymore, sadly.

The AJ/Rhino match was awesome for what it was, and it wasnt really a match. AJ plays a sweet heel, and I like how their styles mix.

The triple threat match for the NWA title wasn't anything special, but again.. i loved the result. Also, Tomko looks awesome.

Then theres Joe/Angle. I ordered Genesis last month with HUGE expectations, and was semi-let down. I entered this match just hoping that they can perform to how i know they can, and that is 2 of the best guys in the business. This match was FANTASTIC. This is what i was expecting the first time around. False finishes, great counters, great spots, and a good submission finish, in which I love the end result. I don't know if id call it a 5 star match, but it is no doubt in my mind the TNA MOTY, and a global candidate for it.

I ordered Genesis as well and thought Joe/Angle was really the only good thing about it

[comahan]

Sweet PPV.

The matches in this were great, but the backstage stuff, VKM skits, and the bikini contest brought it down.

Again, not giving any results...

The X-Division 5-way elimination match was good, the PCS (mock of the BCS, except with X-Division wrestlers) is kinda cool, and Nash on commentary is awesome. Loved the result.

The tag match was good, I love Gail Kim :oops:, LAX is still one of the most entertaining things in all of wrestling.

Daniels vs Sabin with Jerry Lynn as Ref was good too. I liked the small swerve at the end. Im looking forward to a possible Jerry f'n Lynn in-ring return. Also, i loved the clean finish in this match, there arent many of those anymore, sadly.

The AJ/Rhino match was awesome for what it was, and it wasnt really a match. AJ plays a sweet heel, and I like how their styles mix.

The triple threat match for the NWA title wasn't anything special, but again.. i loved the result. Also, Tomko looks awesome.

Then theres Joe/Angle. I ordered Genesis last month with HUGE expectations, and was semi-let down. I entered this match just hoping that they can perform to how i know they can, and that is 2 of the best guys in the business. This match was FANTASTIC. This is what i was expecting the first time around. False finishes, great counters, great spots, and a good submission finish, in which I love the end result. I don't know if id call it a 5 star match, but it is no doubt in my mind the TNA MOTY, and a global candidate for it.

I ordered Genesis as well and thought Joe/Angle was really the only good thing about it

Oh, it wasnt bad at all, but i went in with unreal expectations.

[T-RICH49]

I heard Storm got mad at Harris.A possible AMW split maybe?

[NickBam]

Is K-Fed still fighting Cena on New Years Day?

[WMD]

Heh, yup.

[NickBam]

Heh, yup.

That'll be fun. Mix K-Fed's hangover with his lack of wrestling ability against John Cena, I'll enjoy that. Is K-Fed making any apperances on Raw?

[comahan]

Is K-Fed still fighting Cena on New Years Day?

Most hyped match since Sting/Hogan Starrcade '97!!

[NickBam]

Is K-Fed still fighting Cena on New Years Day?

Most hyped match since Sting/Hogan Starrcade '97!!

Wow, that's soooo sad. I stopped watching wrestling when the WWE/WCW feud stunk it up and the writing started getting terrible. Oh, how they blew the WWE/WCW angle.

[Vikes99ej]

What do you guys think of Ken Kennedy? He's pretty great.

[Creek]

Sounds like I really messed up last night not ordering the PPV. I'll download it. Shhh, don't tell anyone.

[WMD]

Sounds like I really messed up last night not ordering the PPV. I'll download it. Shhh, don't tell anyone.

Yeah, I won't tell anyone.. except for my friend named THE WRESTLING INDUSTRY!

You are so busted.

[comahan]

Sounds like I really messed up last night not ordering the PPV. I'll download it. Shhh, don't tell anyone.

YOU BLEW IT.

[Creek]

Sounds like I really messed up last night not ordering the PPV. I'll download it. Shhh, don't tell anyone.

Yeah, I won't tell anyone.. except for my friend named THE WRESTLING INDUSTRY!

You are so busted.

Teehee.

[portermvp84]

Last night was another horrible night, the main even blew Nitro vs Cena I think we all know who is going to come out on top. The best match was either Umaga vs Jeff Hardy or HHH vs Randy Orton. Any way you look at it, it sucked big time.

[Creek]

I loved RAW last night. Best in a long long time in my opinion. Although, that just may be because one of my favorite tag teams of all time reunited and kicked major ass. Now all we need is a Triple X reunion in TNA & I'm a happy man.

[Splat]

TNA is the only wrestling show worth watching as of now.

[comahan]

I loved RAW last night. Best in a long long time in my opinion. Although, that just may be because one of my favorite tag teams of all time reunited and kicked major ass. Now all we need is a Triple X reunion in TNA & I'm a happy man.

WGTT back together was awesome, but Haas REALLY needs a haircut.

Also, id prefer to see Ki in LAX, over Triple X, unless you were just talking about the Daniels/Skipper version, then i agree.

[Creek]

I loved RAW last night. Best in a long long time in my opinion. Although, that just may be because one of my favorite tag teams of all time reunited and kicked major ass. Now all we need is a Triple X reunion in TNA & I'm a happy man.

WGTT back together was awesome, but Haas REALLY needs a haircut.

Also, id prefer to see Ki in LAX, over Triple X, unless you were just talking about the Daniels/Skipper version, then i agree.

You need a haircut, pal!

[Brodeur]

I loved RAW last night. Best in a long long time in my opinion. Although, that just may be because one of my favorite tag teams of all time reunited and kicked major ass. Now all we need is a Triple X reunion in TNA & I'm a happy man.

The WGTT was my highlight, but too much Cena damnit.

[WMD]

My highlight was probably Chris Masters putting the Masterlock on Torrie.. or Umaga beating the crap out of Jeff Hardy.

I also liked the opening segment with Armando Estrada.

[T-RICH49]

So who do you think will win the Battle Royal next week?I say either Carlito or Masters with the other screwing the other guy in the title match

[comahan]

So who do you think will win the Battle Royal next week?I say either Carlito or Masters with the other screwing the other guy in the title match

MONTY BROWN! with the POOOOOOOOOOOUNNCCEEE-UH!

PERIOD!

[portermvp84]

Probably the best thing that happened all night was when Umaga beat the holy hell out of Jeff Hardy.

[Splat]

Bump for TNA.

[WMD]

So, who ya guys got in this Battle Royale?

I'm going with HBK.

[Vikes99ej]

Cena almost lost to edge.

[comahan]

Cena almost lost to edge.

It's a shame he didnt.

There needs to be a heel holding a title, and not 3 generic, non talented (lashley is okay) faces.

[TH3]

Cena almost lost to edge.

It's a shame he didnt.

There needs to be a heel holding a title, and not 3 generic, non talented (lashley is okay) faces.

as long as Jammal dosn't win it

[comahan]

Cena almost lost to edge.

It's a shame he didnt.

There needs to be a heel holding a title, and not 3 generic, non talented (lashley is okay) faces.

as long as Jammal dosn't win it

Haha.

We need more King BOOKAH as champion

[bigrick0016]

Cena almost lost to edge.

It's a shame he didnt.

There needs to be a heel holding a title, and not 3 generic, non talented (lashley is okay) faces.

as long as Jammal dosn't win it

but Jammal has Armandoooooooooooo Ale-jandrrroooooooooooooo Estrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrada!

[TH3]

Cena almost lost to edge.

It's a shame he didnt.

There needs to be a heel holding a title, and not 3 generic, non talented (lashley is okay) faces.

as long as Jammal dosn't win it

but Jammal has Armandoooooooooooo Ale-jandrrroooooooooooooo Estrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrada!

I demand Rosey come back and they reform 3 Minute warning

[Creek]

In honor of K-Fed's upcoming match, here's a video of him in a sketch from Late World with Zach (the guy in my avatar, just unbearded):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbx7Od6QbNU

I'm sure you can figure out which one is K-fed.

[WMD]

Zach Galifianakis looks much more hardcore with his beard. I don't think I was aware of him when his show was on, so I haven't seen any of it.. Only knew of him for about the last 2 years (+beard) and haven't bothered to do much research on him, even though he's quite the funny fella.

But to stay on topic.. I hope KFed busts out some dance moves in his match with Cena.

[TH3]

I will be attending Raw on January 29th in Dallas

[Brodeur]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/ThunderLips9189/misawachristmas.jpg

The real Santa.

[comahan]

Misawa brings me gifts year round.

[dcrls]

whats the one where like theres two teams and they have to put their opponent through a table????

[WMD]

whats the one where like theres two teams and they have to put their opponent through a table????

Sounds like a ladder match to me.

[Fred Savage]

I will be attending Wrestle Mania.

[comahan]

I will be attending Wrestle Mania.

I hope youre a Batista fan, cause current plans will piss you off if you arent. (those plans arent final, of course.) :(

The best thing about WM to me is the undercard spotfests they put on every year. (Money in the Bank, TLC, and so on.)

There will also probably be some Nostalgia appearances (Rock, Hogan, Austin, so on)

[comahan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/bencrocker/lolillpretendusaid182.jpg

Saw this on another site, thought it was too good to pass up. Props to people who get it.

[Jay]

I will be attending Wrestle Mania.

I hope youre a Batista fan, cause current plans will piss you off if you arent. (those plans arent final, of course.) :(

The best thing about WM to me is the undercard spotfests they put on every year. (Money in the Bank, TLC, and so on.)

There will also probably be some Nostalgia appearances (Rock, Hogan, Austin, so on)

And...

[sdpads24]

pro wrestling is a joke

[Creek]

pro wrestling is a joke

Is pro wrestling a joke to you because like most jokes, you don't "get" pro wrestling?

[Brodeur]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/bencrocker/lolillpretendusaid182.jpg

Saw this on another site, thought it was too good to pass up. Props to people who get it.

I'm 99.9999 percent sure that's Rob Feinstein, but then again I'm on Vicodin.

[comahan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/bencrocker/lolillpretendusaid182.jpg

Saw this on another site, thought it was too good to pass up. Props to people who get it.

I'm 99.9999 percent sure that's Rob Feinstein, but then again I'm on Vicodin.

Yea.

[Space Ghost]

Cena vs. KFed who wins?

[Brodeur]

Cena vs. KFed who wins?

Whoever wins, we lose.

[comahan]

Cena vs. KFed who wins?

Whoever wins, we lose.

Yep.

Who goes over in Joe/Angle III?

Cena vs. KFed who wins?

Whoever wins, we lose.

Yep.

Who goes over in Joe/Angle III?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
KFED!?!???!!
Post that after it happens man.

[comahan]

Cena vs. KFed who wins?

Whoever wins, we lose.

Yep.

Who goes over in Joe/Angle III?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
KFED!?!???!!
Post that after it happens man.

uh. what?

[Bengalsrz]

I cant stand wrestling, but that "its still real to me dammit!" thing is great :lol: :lol:

[Brodeur]

Marc Mero is on Raw!

[WMD]

I'm such a K-Fed mark..

[Brodeur]

The first of K-Fed's 1,000 moves............ARMBAR!

[TH3]

FU K-fed

[comahan]

I'm such a K-Fed mark..

Lol, so am I.

The first of K-Fed's 1,000 moves............ARMBAR!

#2 is...




ARMBAR!

[Fred Savage]

Entertainment Mogul

[portermvp84]

That was complete bs that Cena lost to Kfed. This sunday should be pretty good my predictions.

Umaga vs Cena Umaga
Johny Nitro vs Jeff Hardy Hardy
DX vs anti DX DX kicks the living crap out of anti DX

Thats all the matches I could remember, but the high light of last monday is when Jon Cena took out Coach, Johny Nitro Umaga, and K FEd I can't remember the other guy he faced.

[Splat]

TNA rocks Joe is going to KILL YOU.

[Brodeur]

That was complete bs that Cena lost to Kfed. This sunday should be pretty good my predictions.

Umaga vs Cena Umaga
Johny Nitro vs Jeff Hardy Hardy
DX vs anti DX DX kicks the living crap out of anti DX

Thats all the matches I could remember, but the high light of last monday is when Jon Cena took out Coach, Johny Nitro Umaga, and K FEd I can't remember the other guy he faced.

Mark?

[Splat]

pro wrestling is a joke

Bandwagon fan.

[T-RICH49]

I can't believe WWE had Cena lose to K-Fed :? :?

[steelersfan43]

One year ago today Eddie Guerrero past away. :(
RIP

How?

[Creek]

That was complete bs that Cena lost to Kfed. This sunday should be pretty good my predictions.

Umaga vs Cena Umaga
Johny Nitro vs Jeff Hardy Hardy
DX vs anti DX DX kicks the living crap out of anti DX

Thats all the matches I could remember, but the high light of last monday is when Jon Cena took out Coach, Johny Nitro Umaga, and K FEd I can't remember the other guy he faced.

Mark?

Anybody who refers to Armando Alejandro Estrrrrrrrrada as "the other guy" probably isn't the biggest smark. Same goes for anyone that considers John Cena doing anything a highlight.

[bigrick0016]

I enjoy Arrrmandoooooooo Ale-Jandrrro Estrrrrrrrrrrrrrada almost as much as Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Ken-nuh-dy!

[Chucky]

Real wrestling that was in the olympics was good but like WWE stuff sucks.

[bigrick0016]

Real wrestling that was in the olympics was good but like WWE stuff sucks.

Then why are you posting in this thread? ............oh yeah, it's because you wanted to be an ass.

[comahan]

I enjoy Arrrmandoooooooo Ale-Jandrrro Estrrrrrrrrrrrrrada almost as much as Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Ken-nuh-dy!

who DOESNT enjoy Armando Alejando Estrada?!

[WMD]

Obviously somebody doesn't.. He needs more air time!

[comahan]

Obviously somebody doesn't.. He needs more air time!

I have to agree.


Would anyone care to join me in a game of Musical chairs?

ADRENALINE RUSH! ADRENALINE RUSH! ADRENALINE RUSH!



Perhaps a pushup challenge?

AHHHHH... PUSH UP.. PUH - PUH - PUH - PUSH UP... AHHHHH PUSH UP - PUH - PUSH UP REAL GOOD


Other options include A Pogo Stick Challenge, A Limbo Challenge, And Psychological testing with homosexual overtones.

[Brodeur]

Real wrestling that was in the olympics was good but like WWE stuff sucks.

All the wrestlers in the olympics fear Kurt Angle. He won a gold medal with a broken freakin neck.

Of course he's in TNA but that's not the point.

[comahan]

Real wrestling that was in the olympics was good but like WWE stuff sucks.

All the wrestlers in the olympics fear Kurt Angle. He won a gold medal with a broken freakin neck.

Of course he's in TNA but that's not the point.

Oh its true, its true.

Wait.. i mean... its real, its damn real?

[comahan]

Oh, and lastly.. this happened a few days ago so a few of you might already know but...


WWE has already released Claudio Castagnoli :(

http://a372.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/4/l_261aedd120bf909e99c6d5238388b6eb.gif

[Creek]

Oh, and lastly.. this happened a few days ago so a few of you might already know but...


WWE has already released Claudio Castognoli :(

http://a372.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/4/l_261aedd120bf909e99c6d5238388b6eb.gif

HEY! :cry:

(Sad hey.)

[Splat]

Who wins Kurt vs Joe part 3?

[comahan]

He wins Kurt vs Joe part 3?

Ill assume you meant Who?


Anyway, I think it'll be a 1-1, or 0-0 draw after the 30 min time limit.

[Splat]

Ill assume you meant Who?

My bad typo.

[Splat]

I have been watching TNA since they starting be on prime time where is Jeff Jerret?

[comahan]

I have been watching TNA since they starting be on prime time where is Jeff Jerret?

After his Bound For Glory match with Sting, he took a break from the ring. I think it has something to do with his wife having cancer, although im not sure. He is still there during tapings and PPV's, and I believe he as say in what goes on TV and what doesn't. (he and his father are minority owners of the company)

[Splat]

I new that about his dad but didn't know why he had not been on I would like to see him back on TV.

[diabsoule]

I'm glad Jarrett took some time off because it makes the product better by him not ruining it.

[comahan]

I'm glad Jarrett took some time off because it makes the product better by him not ruining it.

I like Jarrett as a performer, but I dont think he should be anywhere near the world title. Id love for there to be a midcard belt (when they expand to 2 hours) and Jarrett to be going after that.

[portermvp84]

Who would win Umaga or Joe?

[TH3]

Who would win Umaga or Joe?

Jammal

[comahan]

Who would win Umaga or Joe?

Jammal

Pft.

[Brodeur]

Who would win Umaga or Joe?

Joe would stare at him and Umaga would cower in fear, so that we get the better match of Estrada vs Joe.

[comahan]

Who would win Umaga or Joe?

Joe would stare at him and Umaga would cower in fear, so that we get the better match of Estrada vs Joe.

This man speaks the truth.

[Creek]

Who would win Umaga or Joe?

Whoever the booker picked.

[comahan]

Who would win Umaga or Joe?

Whoever the booker picked.

Dammit Creek, stop breaking kayfabe.

[Splat]

Who would win Umaga or Joe?

Joe not even close.

[comahan]

I hate wwe fans. London and Kendrick just had a good match and the crowd was ******** all over it cause there weren't punches, clothslines, or botched spinebusters, instead they *surprise!* actually wrestled.