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neko4
05-13-2007, 04:42 PM
Do you still aprove of Ted's Actions?
FA has been terrible for GB
We didnt get Moss
Theres a bunch of (questionable) rumors about Favre
So is everyone still happy w/ our GM

TitleTown088
05-13-2007, 04:55 PM
I am for the most part, but he needs to start making some more bold decisions in my opinion. I love his drafts and I don't think GB needs to be a big team in FA.

gbpackers0065
05-13-2007, 04:57 PM
Free Agency was not terrible, we dont need to overpay for role players.
There is no gaurantee Moss lights it up.
Those Favre rumors are not true.
Our draft was good and will probably end up surprising us like last year.

GB12
05-13-2007, 05:04 PM
Do you still aprove of Ted's Actions?
FA has been terrible for GB
We didnt get Moss
Theres a bunch of (questionable) rumors about Favre
So is everyone still happy w/ our GM

Free Agency was not terrible. We didn't sign much, but who should we have signed? There wasn't really much that would help us, and the ones that would cost way too much money. Sure we have the cap, but the talent level wasn't high enough for it to be worth it.

I am pretty upset about not getting Moss. That move would have really helped our offense and help cover up for the lack of the run gam. Had we got him it'd be very easy to project us in the playoffs.

I really don't think there is truth to those rumors. Favre will be a Packer in 2007. Should he leave for somereason that pushes me a lot closer to the edge.

Yes, I am happy with him. He has built our team very nicely, he just isn't too focused on winning now. In a few years I believe we will rise back up to the top of the NFC, I just wish he would try a little harder for the present.

TitleTown088
05-13-2007, 05:11 PM
I think Teddy boy better hope his boys James Jones, brandon Jackson, and Clowny pan out.

Also, can anyone imagine the heat he will catch if Moss puts up HUge numbers?

GB12
05-13-2007, 05:26 PM
I think Teddy boy better hope his boys James Jones, brandon Jackson, and Clowny pan out.

Also, can anyone imagine the heat he will catch if Moss puts up HUge numbers?

People get on Thompson a lot for taking Jones in round 3. I wasn't thrilled about it either, but had we taken Clowney then and Jones in the fifth most of us would have been fine with that. There wouldn't be nearly as much complaining had it happened that way. I'm not saying that it was a great pick, but that's another way to look at it.

thule
05-13-2007, 05:31 PM
People get on Thompson a lot for taking Jones in round 3. I wasn't thrilled about it either, but had we taken Clowney then and Jones in the fifth most of us would have been fine with that. There wouldn't be nearly as much complaining had it happened that way. I'm not saying that it was a great pick, but that's another way to look at it.

The exact same thing happened to the cowboys last year. We reached for a player in Jason Hatcher in the 3rd round...everyone was crying cuz we missed out on Watkins...and ended up landing him in the 5th. I think it's safe to say it's pretty clear GM's have a general understanding a 100 times better than us as to where a player will fall...which is what some people don't understand.

Jim Jim
05-13-2007, 05:38 PM
James Jones will surprise us this year. I think he could be a great slot receiver, and Clowney could be a type of guy who can give us two or three deep plays a game.

GB12
05-13-2007, 05:42 PM
James Jones will surprise us this year. I think he could be a great slot receiver, and Clowney could be a type of guy who can give us two or three deep plays a game.

Yeah, after reading up on him and watching some film i do have high hopes for him. While he doesn't have ideal size for it, I think he could be a nice red zone threat.

jackalope
05-13-2007, 05:52 PM
I still completely back him.

Moses
05-13-2007, 05:59 PM
There were only a few guys that I wished the Packers would have pursued harder.

Justin Griffith - Nice fit for the ZBS. Also a weapon when the ball is in his hands. I would have paid him his modest price tag.

Ahman Green - I really think he should have been resigned. He wanted to be in GB and he was the catalyst of this offence for 5 years. One of the most underrated runningbacks in the league and just an overall great guy to have on your team. If the Packers had Ahman Green still, they'd be a much better team offensively.

Daniel Graham - Good, young tight end that would pair well with Franks. Would give the Packers a lot more consistency from the TE position and would likely be a big help in the redzone where they struggle.

PACKmanN
05-13-2007, 06:11 PM
There were only a few guys that I wished the Packers would have pursued harder.

Justin Griffith - Nice fit for the ZBS. Also a weapon when the ball is in his hands. I would have paid him his modest price tag.

Ahman Green - I really think he should have been resigned. He wanted to be in GB and he was the catalyst of this offence for 5 years. One of the most underrated runningbacks in the league and just an overall great guy to have on your team. If the Packers had Ahman Green still, they'd be a much better team offensively.

Daniel Graham - Good, young tight end that would pair well with Franks. Would give the Packers a lot more consistency from the TE position and would likely be a big help in the redzone where they struggle.

Justin Griffith wanted to goto Oakland because he gets to play for the same OC and lives somewhere were is warm. Ahman Green isnt worth 4 million a year and he is turning 31, he done. Daniel Graham would have been a nice weapen but his production isnt worth how many he got paid and maybe Franks had an off year lets wait and see what he does this year.

princefielder28
05-13-2007, 06:21 PM
Thompson has done a nice job building a solid young nucleus but you can only do that for so long. He needed to and still needs to add playmakers for this team to achieve the next level and this past offseason he failed to do so.

neko4
05-13-2007, 07:34 PM
Im kinda on the fence about him. I feel he couldve got graham or a SS but didnt, and the Moss thing could of worked but he didnt execute it and now theres a ton of rumors which are kinda making the team look like it has no direction

Boston
05-13-2007, 07:40 PM
Im kinda on the fence about him. I feel he couldve got graham or a SS but didnt, and the Moss thing could of worked but he didnt execute it and now theres a ton of rumors which are kinda making the team look like it has no direction

Yeah, the team doesn't have any direction with the build through the draft philosophy, a young defense, and a young o-line. This has gotten out of hand. Especially the trade talks.

neko4
05-13-2007, 07:52 PM
Yeah, the team doesn't have any direction with the build through the draft philosophy, a young defense, and a young o-line. This has gotten out of hand. Especially the trade talks.

Thats not what the casual fan or the "ea's" of this world will think

ny10804
05-13-2007, 08:06 PM
Five Good Things
1. We have a very strong defensive line, one that will anchor our defense for the next 5 years.
2. We have a player with the potential to be the best defensive player in the NFL: A.J. Hawk.
3. The offensive line has six starting-quality players: Tausch, Clifton, Collegde, Spitz, Moll, and Wells. Those last four together with Barbre will be starting on this team for a long time.
4. We may have our future starting QB in Aaron Rodgers.
5. Our LB core has the potential to be one of the best in the game, as well as one of the deepest.

Five Bad Things
1. We have 7 30+ year-olds on the team. Five of them start. Replacements for at least 3 (not counting Favre-Rodgers and Clifton-Barbre) will need to be found sooner rather than later: Driver, Harris, and Woodson. The last two may be primed for a precipitous drop off.
2. Our top RB has started 3 games in his career, our #2 is a rookie.
3. Our #3 WR spot is a major question mark.
4. Our starting TE may be better off as a T.
5. We still don't have a bona fide S next to Nick Collins.

Boston
05-13-2007, 08:08 PM
Thats not what the casual fan or the "ea's" of this world will think

Who gives a damn what they think.

TitleTown088
05-13-2007, 08:19 PM
potential to be one of the best in the game, as well as one of the deepest.

Five Bad Things
1. We have 7 30+ year-olds on the team. Five of them start. Replacements for at least 3 (not counting Favre-Rodgers and Clifton-Barbre) will need to be found sooner rather than later: Driver, Harris, and Woodson. The last two may be primed for a precipitous drop off.
2. Our top RB has started 3 games in his career, our #2 is a rookie.
3. Our #3 WR spot is a major question mark.
4. Our starting TE may be better off as a T.
5. We still don't have a bona fide S next to Nick Collins.


Don't you think Jennings could be Drivers replacement?

GB12
05-13-2007, 08:20 PM
Don't you think Jennings could be Drivers replacement?

Yeah, but either way we need to replace a starting WR, which I believe is what he was getting at.

neko4
05-13-2007, 08:21 PM
Don't you think Jennings could be Drivers replacement?

yes, but then ssomeone will have to take his spot at #2

Boston
05-13-2007, 08:25 PM
yes, but then ssomeone will have to take his spot at #2

Which, if my knowledge is right, is why we drafted two recievers in the draft.

TitleTown088
05-13-2007, 08:26 PM
yes, but then ssomeone will have to take his spot at #2

Koren Robinson to the bank. Everyone tells me not to count on this guy, but I think he will be a very productive player when he gets back. Him and Favre really seemed to click when they played together. One of the cats the packers draften just might work out too..

KCJ58
05-13-2007, 08:37 PM
u got Mason Crosby!

GadoR'Savior
05-13-2007, 08:46 PM
I have tried to back TT for some time and stand up 4 him when all my friends and people i work with tear him apart but I wont anymore....I think what he is doin is okay, but not anything that i feel i should stand up for. And who ever said that the Favre stuff is false is full of **** and doesnt want to believe it, and he has every right to be pissed. I dont blame him if he would want out, He is at the end of the tunnel and just wants to have a chance to win but TT doesnt want to give hime the guys to do that. I bet that Moss produces more than Jones easy over the next 2 years.

I hated watching the Vikings have a great draft and then the Lions and Bears also goin out and bettering there team, now maybe there wasnt any free agents to go after (Grant, Graham, McMichael, Thomas, Griffith just a few that we could have maybe went after and maybe over spent for) but when your team doesnt have a TE, only has 2 WR who are reliable, only have 2 unproven SS that people man crush over ( Underwood understandable, Maunal not....at all, oh he improved blah blah blah blah, he sucked get over it)
then RB, which I like Jackson alot and thought it was fair to let Ahmen go, maybe should have made a trade for Turner but im fine with Jackson. I also love Morency and thought he is very solid.

Overall I take Favre's side, no doubt...TT wants to build and I want them to compete. Those 2 rarely go hand and hand. 2 make up for are lack of anything this off-season there needed to have a great draft and wll cant judge for another 3 years but this was far from great! All we had to do was get Moss Favre would be happy, I would be happy and most (KEYWORD-Most) of Packers nation would have been fine with this off-season.

Ted needs to make somethin happen because honestly this team cant win without Favre and i know he'll be back but it's not goin to be the same Brett, its goin to be an unhappy Brett who will play like he did in 05', feel he needs to force everything and make things happen himself because he doesnt have the players to help him. These young players need his leadership without a question. Beside are 2 Tackles,Driver, and Farve on Offense there are no other veteren leaders. Thank god are defense is good except are SS unless Underwood proves hes a starter or Rouse plays like i think he can.

princefielder28
05-13-2007, 08:47 PM
u got Mason Crosby!

thats huge!

TitleTown088
05-13-2007, 08:55 PM
thats huge!

Hey it could be. You never know what a good kicker can do for your team. Just look at Vinetieri and Gould in the playoffs last year.

M1Koter
05-13-2007, 08:57 PM
yes, but then ssomeone will have to take his spot at #2

this is also at least 3-4 years down the road though

Boston
05-13-2007, 08:58 PM
If there was a choice between yes and neutral, I would vote for that.

neko4
05-13-2007, 09:19 PM
this is also at least 3-4 years down the road though

sure why not

umphrey
05-13-2007, 09:39 PM
This is not a yes or no question.

johbur
05-14-2007, 05:14 AM
I can't say I approve of TT's actions, but I understand them. I would like to see him work towards the now a bit more and rely less on his ability to "discover" talent. Corey Hall might be a special teams demon, but he coulda been had as a UDFA. James Jones had a solid year last year and his triangle numbers are better than Sterling Sharpe's, but he will take time like the vast majority of WRs, and probably more than some of the WRs we could have had. I don't like taking injured players high, even if they were projected higher when healthy. Harrell and Jackson, if healthy, could make this a great draft. Or if they don't play due to being hurt, will really damage the team at critical positions by not being productive but also by taking someone's roster spot. CB wasn't addressed, but maybe TT likes Blackmon that much.

I'd have liked to have seen a play for Moss or Keyshawn, but they both are not great with their attitudes and either would take a roster spot from a young guy. DD, Jennings, Jones, Clowney and Ruvell Martin will make a solid five, IMO. Toss in Ferguson taking the sixth spot and then trading him once Koren Robinson gets abck and I don't see a big problem with the WRs, just with how young they are.

I'd rather have not taken Jackson that early, but TT isn't stuck on perceived value of his picks (Tony Moll) as long as those guys produce like he believes they'll produce. Maybe TT's just more of an optimist than I am. To my thinking, having too many guys on the team that are Day Two guys versus other teams having a lot of Day One guys, just makes me think those other teams will be a little better.

bogart69
05-16-2007, 10:59 AM
Hey it could be. You never know what a good kicker can do for your team. Just look at Vinetieri and Gould in the playoffs last year.

I agree..I believe Kiper says Crosby is the best kicking prospect to come along in 10 years. If he becomes a Pro Bowl caliber kicker this will be a terrific move..

GB12
05-16-2007, 02:08 PM
I agree..I believe Kiper says Crosby is the best kicking prospect to come along in 10 years. If he becomes a Pro Bowl caliber kicker this will be a terrific move..
If anyone becomes a probowler it's a terrific move...

M1Koter
05-16-2007, 02:15 PM
If anyone becomes a probowler it's a terrific move...

quoted for truth

Football Fan
05-23-2007, 09:07 AM
Im grading his job as a gm, because im happy with some things and somethings im not.

Signing our own:C+, there have been some guys let go here that havent truly been replaced with equal skill or the situations could have been handled better. Off the top of my head: Sharper, Walker, Green, Wahle, Rivera and longwell. (some of these guys could be considered salery cap casualties but after being 30 mil under the salery cap the 2nd year of thompson I have to believe contracts could have been back loaded.

Free agency:DD, He has left to many holes for the team here. Woodson, Picket and Robinson were good. On offense, I just dont want to get into it.

draft:C+ (incomplete), 1-3 more years to find out. Hawk was a no-brainer(Mike Sherman couldnt have made a bad pick here), Vernon Davis was about a 50/50 choice and we will still have to wait to see who has the better career.

depth: B+, youth and potential look good. Still not sure how the young players futures will turn out though.

finance:B, teams in great shape here, but I will only give a b grade, because holding your cash doesnt automatically equate to good decision making. This grade goes together with the signing our own/free agency category.

The teams offence: D+, the young players might be good later

The teams defence: B+, looks good

The special teams: D+, only because there has been some effort made this year.

Public relations: D, I really dont like his press conferences. I also think he could deal with some of the players better. I have heard him described as arrogant and I guess that could be the right word for the way he appears to me at times.

I will say im still on the fence with Thompson as the packers gm. I have strong issues with his lack of effort to put a winning team on the field and his work at aquiring anyone at all the offensive positions accept QB. He is way to willing to throw away seasons to make a run later.
Based on his history at evaluating talent and his connection to Wolf, who I think was just an excellent GM and dearly miss, I still have to give Thompson more time before I can give up on him. Not to mention I have no idea who you would replace him with.

I gave a no vote, because some actions or non-actions overide the good ones. I dont think a gm can leave giant holes on offence when you have over 10 million in cap space and another giant chunk of cash available once Favre retires. Basically, its surrendering another season and it shouldnt have happened. This was a potential playoff team and might still be, but I would hate to get there with some key players missing and 10+ mil. in the bank. At the end of the season I dont want to be thinking what if we took a chance on...

johbur
05-24-2007, 03:26 AM
With a 4 point scale, you have TT getting slightly above a C average as a GM. Based on his first two years, I agree. This year will be the determinant of how good he is at bringing in talent, as he eschewed more highly rated players several times. I loved last year's draft. His 2005 draft has not yielded much. FA in 2005 was not good for the team, whereas I liked his FA pickups last year.

This draft has the potential to really improve the Packers' special teams. Hopefully Favre can buoy the offense, and if the defense comes through as anticipated, the special teams could turn a couple games that were lost last year.

Football Fan
05-24-2007, 11:39 AM
Yep, like I said I do think Thompson has done a real good job in some areas. I just think opportunities to upgrade important positions have been neglected and it will have a detrimental effect on the teams ability to compete offensively. Basically surrendering a 3rd year in a row of playoff hopes. Pretty much an overiding factor for determining the good versus the bad when deciding if you aprove of thompsons actions.
No matter what the outcome is this year, it will be interesting to watch how all the new players over the last 3 years perform.

bogart69
05-25-2007, 09:48 AM
If anyone becomes a probowler it's a terrific move... I agree, but more so with a sixth rounder than a first.