College Basketball Thread

[iowatreat54]

57-43... What a thriller. Second time MSU scored under 45 this year, ouch.

first time was vs. us...WOOOOOO

[GB12]

I hope you're joking...There's way too many great teams ahead of them...There's probably only 1 #2 seed up for grabs (I doubt KU, UCLA, or Duke drop below a #2 seed), plus Indiana, Louisville, Georgetown, and UConn are ahead in the pecking order for the last spot
First, Indiana is in no way ahead of Wisconsin. Unless we have an extreme let up and drop one to Penn State or Northwestern we have at least a share of the Big Ten title and we beat Indiana twice. None of those Big East teams are ahead of us yet. Either Georgetown or Louisville will be knocked out no matter what because they play each other. If Georgetown wins out they'll be ahead of us, but they'd have to beat Marquette, Louisville and the Big East tourny. Kansas will probably be knocked out of a 2 seed when they lose in the Big 12 touny.

In no order the one and two seeds:
Memphis
UCLA
Duke
Tennesse
UNC
Texas
Wisconsin
Stanford/Georgetown/Kansas

There's a strong possibility we're a two seed. Also Bo Ryan should be coach of the year.

[iowatreat54]

Pearl and Calipari deserve coach of the year over Ryan...Ryan isn't even having the best "coaching" year in the Big Ten, Painter deserves it more

[PalmerToCJ]

Sean Miller (Xavier) for Coach of the Year...

I know it sounds backwards to not award a college coach for bringing in great players but Calipari/Pearl's teams were expected to do well. Xavier is rolling through a A10 schedule that is no push over (as well as a win over Indiana, @Kent St.) and they lost two good seniors last year. Just great balance, very well coached team. It'd be a shame if Indiana doesn't give him a shot.

[iowatreat54]

Sean Miller (Xavier) for Coach of the Year...

I know it sounds backwards to not award a college coach for bringing in great players but Calipari/Pearl's teams were expected to do well. Xavier is rolling through a A10 schedule that is no push over (as well as a win over Indiana, @Kent St.) and they lost two good seniors last year. Just great balance, very well coached team. It'd be a shame if Indiana doesn't give him a shot.

I can agree with that, I was just throwing out 2 names that I thought deserved it more...I honestly want Painter to win it, I don't think there's a more surprising team, and they start 4 freshmen, but at the very least he should get Big10 COY

[GB12]

Pearl and Calipari deserve coach of the year over Ryan...Ryan isn't even having the best "coaching" year in the Big Ten, Painter deserves it more
Memphis and Tennessee were supposed to be great. Had Memphis gone undefeated I'd say Calipari no question, but now the weakness of the conference does come into play. The Badgers lost their two best players in Alando Tucker and Kammron Taylor who accounted for around 50% of our offense last year. We weren't supposed to be in the top 4 of the Big Ten let a lone win it. Also take a look at the rosters. Tennessee and Memphis have stars and first round picks. Wisconsin plays as a team and none of the players will be drafted. I think we're an even better team than we were last season.

[iowatreat54]

Memphis and Tennessee were supposed to be great. Had Memphis gone undefeated I'd say Calipari no question, but now the weakness of the conference does come into play. The Badgers lost their two best players in Alando Tucker and Kammron Taylor who accounted for around 50% of our offense last year. We weren't supposed to be in the top 4 of the Big Ten let a lone win it. Also take a look at the rosters. Tennessee and Memphis have stars and first round picks. Wisconsin plays as a team and none of the players will be drafted. I think we're an even better team than we were last season.

idk I would still argue both should get it over Ryan, but there is also the argument that you just made which is completely valid...I guess it's just the fact that I can't give national coach of the year to a coach who shouldn't even win his conference coach of the year

[PalmerToCJ]

Painter and Ryan are getting it done, either one would be deserving. I didn't know much about Wisconsin coming into this year but with Tucker/Taylor gone I thought they weren't going to make the tournament. Neither of them are going against the best schedules (Memphis' schedule is harder than both) but it's not like they're loaded either.

[adschofield]

First, Indiana is in no way ahead of Wisconsin. Unless we have an extreme let up and drop one to Penn State or Northwestern we have at least a share of the Big Ten title and we beat Indiana twice. None of those Big East teams are ahead of us yet. Either Georgetown or Louisville will be knocked out no matter what because they play each other. If Georgetown wins out they'll be ahead of us, but they'd have to beat Marquette, Louisville and the Big East tourny. Kansas will probably be knocked out of a 2 seed when they lose in the Big 12 touny.

In no order the one and two seeds:
Memphis
UCLA
Duke
Tennesse
UNC
Texas
Wisconsin
Stanford/Georgetown/Kansas

There's a strong possibility we're a two seed. Also Bo Ryan should be coach of the year.

Wisconsin over Kansas...I want what you're smoking

Scenario: Kansas loses in Big 12 Tourney=#2 seed
Kansas wins Big 12 Tourney=#1 seed

Get off the crack pipe

[GB12]

Wisconsin over Kansas...I want what you're smoking

Scenario: Kansas loses in Big 12 Tourney=#2 seed
Kansas wins Big 12 Tourney=#1 seed

Get off the crack pipe
Then Texas isn't a 2 seed. Kansas still has to get past Kansasa State and Texas A&M too. Also Duke still has to play UNC and Stanford has to play UCLA. Wisconsin getting a 2 seed is a lot more likely than you think.

[sweetness34]

Calipari is a joke of a coach. He has an insane amount of talent around him that makes him look good. But watch that Tennessee game over again, he was out of his league. It's helps having Rose, Dozier, Dorsey, Roberts, Kemp, etc...They are loaded.

Pearl is a good coach but he's a sleaze.

[princefielder28]

Wisconsin over Kansas...I want what you're smoking

Scenario: Kansas loses in Big 12 Tourney=#2 seed
Kansas wins Big 12 Tourney=#1 seed

Get off the crack pipe

Wisconsin has lost to Duke on the road, Marquette, and Purdue(x2)

They've beaten Texas on the road, Indiana(x2), Michigan State

Assuming they'll win their last two games they'll finish 16-2 in conference and be 26-4 overall

Kansas is very skilled but they have their bad bumps in the road and you need to stop with the big hometwon bias.

[PalmerToCJ]

Patrick Patterson out for the year with a stress fracture in his foot.

Shoot me in the face we're screwed. If we even manage to limp into the post season it'll be another 1st or 2nd round exit, I felt with him we could make a Sweet 16/Elite 8 run which I didn't feel the past two seasons.

This year sucks. We're definetely screwed in Knoxville.

[iowatreat54]

Calipari is a joke of a coach. He has an insane amount of talent around him that makes him look good. But watch that Tennessee game over again, he was out of his league. It's helps having Rose, Dozier, Dorsey, Roberts, Kemp, etc...They are loaded.

Pearl is a good coach but he's a sleaze.

big game on sunday sweetness ;)

IMO, Wisconsin either needs to win out, including the tournament, if they want a #2 seed...if they don't win the tournament, they need to hope Stanford doesn't win their tournament because that would likely give them a 2 seed

#1: Memphis, Tennesee, UNC, Kansas/Texas (Unless neither wins the tourny, then UCLA)
#2: Kansas/Texas, UCLA, Duke...those are pretty much the only "sure things",

the last spot could go to Stanford, Georgetown, Wisconsin, or possibly even Indiana if one of them teams win their tournaments and the others don't...right now, Wisconsin has to look the best, but if Stanford wins theirs I think they get it over Wisconsin...but Wisconsin has to win out for sure if they want a 2 seed

[roidrunner]

Universtiy of Louisville finally playing to their potential. its about dam time.

[iowatreat54]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/grant_wahl/02/26/abusive.fans0303/2.html

good read on how ridiculously sleazy some fans can be, I will never for the life of me understand how fans of a sports team can wish/threaten physical harm on players from an opposing team, especially for something like choosing their school over yours

[P-L]

Wisconsin has lost to Duke on the road, Marquette, and Purdue(x2)

They've beaten Texas on the road, Indiana(x2), Michigan State

Assuming they'll win their last two games they'll finish 16-2 in conference and be 26-4 overall

Kansas is very skilled but they have their bad bumps in the road and you need to stop with the big hometwon bias.
I think you're being biased. Kansas has one more win, one less loss, a higher RPI rating, a slightly tougher strength of schedule, a better record against the RPI Top 50, and a better record against the RPI Top 100. If Kansas loses one of their last 3 games or loses early in the Big XII tournament (combined with a good showing by Wisconsin in the Big Ten tournament), then maybe Wisconsin has an argument.

[princefielder28]

I think you're being biased. Kansas has one more win, one less loss, a higher RPI rating, a slightly tougher strength of schedule, a better record against the RPI Top 50, and a better record against the RPI Top 100. If Kansas loses one of their last 3 games or loses early in the Big XII tournament (combined with a good showing by Wisconsin in the Big Ten tournament), then maybe Wisconsin has an argument.

I was simply pointing out that it is much closer than what adschofield assumes. The Badgers have played some damn good ball this year and should not be overlooked. To say Kansas is by far a better team than Wisconsin is just BS and has no evidence. I wasn't making a claim for the Badgers to be the seed over Kansas, I was pointing out that it's alot closer than what has been given credit.

[drowe]

enh. the badgers aren't a #2 right now. and some things would have to go their way for it to happen. but, it could happen. they're playing very well right now.

edit. wow, 5,000 posts. i rule. kinda.

[thetedginnshow]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=oneil_dana&id=3269294

More of what makes my boy awesome. His perspective on life and outlook on things in general is terrific.

[roidrunner]

congrats on #5000

[downthealley]

Tyrese Rice is going off against UNC 34 in the half!!!!!

[Geo]

I think I'm sick of Gus Johnson. The ridiculous oversell has worn out on me.

[GB12]

Wow, Marquette just threw away a big win against Georgetown. Pathetic.

[princefielder28]

Tyrese Rice is going off against UNC 34 in the half!!!!!

That is nuts!!! UNC has a chance to be #1 but they could be giving it away

[bwillie26]

UNC isn't giving anything away. Tyrese Rice is simply goin' nuts today. When someone is as hot as he is, you almost have to sit back and enjoy it because their isn't much you can do about it.

Lawson needs to come in and take it right at him. He needs to test out his ankle and he needs to see if he can pick up a couple of cheap ones on Tyrese. So far, he has done squat besides a couple good passes in his time on the court.

But here they come ..

[bwillie26]

Ty looks like he is breaking in his ankle right now. Playing Tyrese right in his chest and doing a great job on him right now. Nice blow by as well.

Incredible game. If anyone isn't watching this, I'd tune to ABC right now.

[kwilk103]

i wish belein would have left a year earlier

we would have beasley and walker for sure

and had a great shot to get 2 home state players in mayo and patterson

[bwillie26]

kwilk, your team would have imploded with that many egos on one team. Mayo is bad enough by himself, but to add Beasley? Then you throw in Walker and Patterson? SHEESH! I would not wish that on any team.

[bearsfan_51]

Gophers looking to take out the Buckeyes for good.

[kwilk103]

kwilk, your team would have imploded with that many egos on one team. Mayo is bad enough by himself, but to add Beasley? Then you throw in Walker and Patterson? SHEESH! I would not wish that on any team.

im just saying; huggins got beasley and walker and mayo and patterson really like huggins

would have had a great shot

[bwillie26]

Gotta give credit to Tywon Lawson for stepping up. He babied that ankle in the 1st half, but he stepped up in the 2nd half with his defense on Tyrese Rice.

Incredible come back by those boys.

[GB12]

Vandy down 2 with 7 seconds left
Memphis only up 3 with 2:30 against Southern Miss
Texas is down 4 to TT

[princefielder28]

Ohio State's tourney chances have just fallen greatly....they are getting smoked by the Gophers today!

[PalmerToCJ]

If things play out as they should...

Florida and Ohio St. won't be in the tournament... Curious to know when the last time the two championship game teams didn't make the tournament the next season.

[Turtlepower]

ASU destroyed USC. Except OJ Mayo destroyed ASU. Funny that USC almost never wins when Mayo scores over 30 points. =D

[sweetness34]

Illinois beats the Squawks. :D

[Tobzilla]

Hopefully the Gophs will win out and make the tourney.

[iowatreat54]

Illinois beats the Squawks. :D

yea battle of the $hitty teams, I'm kinda disappointed but then I remember that we were supposed to suck this year and still finished better than you guys ;)

[yo123]

Ohio State's tourney chances have just fallen greatly....they are getting smoked by the Gophers today!


Hell yeah I was at there. Lawrence McKenzie went crazy in the second half.

[T-RICH49]

I wonder if Mike Beasley still wants to play KU in Africa

[Forenci]

im just saying; huggins got beasley and walker and mayo and patterson really like huggins

would have had a great shot

Heh heh, how about that loss to UConn today?

Woohoo!

You guys certainly did make it close there towards the end though. You actually kind of looked like us this past month. We always got down big and rallied to come back and win. Fortunately, we pulled it together and won.

Price was a beast as usually. Adrien really came on strong at the end there too to help us get the victory. I think with our size and depth we can really do well in the tourny.

[kwilk103]

Heh heh, how about that loss to UConn today?

Woohoo!

You guys certainly did make it close there towards the end though. You actually kind of looked like us this past month. We always got down big and rallied to come back and win. Fortunately, we pulled it together and won.

Price was a beast as usually. Adrien really came on strong at the end there too to help us get the victory. I think with our size and depth we can really do well in the tourny.

i've had the flu all week and i didnt wake up til 3 so i missed it

[adschofield]

I wonder if Mike Beasley still wants to play KU in Africa

lol...Thank God we beat that punk Michael Beasley...KSUck is so overrated...people are realizing how to beat them, just let Beasley get his, and blanket that joke of a team he has to play with...Have fun next year with that 'coach' Frank Martin and Beasley/Walker-less team

[kwilk103]

thats why i wish huggins was here a year earlier

i would like to see what he could do with beasley and walker

[thetedginnshow]

lol...Thank God we beat that punk Michael Beasley...KSUck is so overrated...people are realizing how to beat them, just let Beasley get his, and blanket that joke of a team he has to play with...Have fun next year with that 'coach' Frank Martin and Beasley/Walker-less team

I don't think they were really ever overrated. Everyone knew the team was Michael Beasley. It's too bad his team can't come up in the clutch. Good job by Kansas to defend their home court.

And holy crap Duke. Holy crap. Scared me quite a bit.

[iowatreat54]

lol...Thank God we beat that punk Michael Beasley...KSUck is so overrated...people are realizing how to beat them, just let Beasley get his, and blanket that joke of a team he has to play with...Have fun next year with that 'coach' Frank Martin and Beasley/Walker-less team

Beasley has come out and said he wants to stay next year, whether he actually does remains to be seen...

[dabears10]

Illinois State may have gotten an at large bid with their win last night at Southern Illinois. SIU was playing their best basketball all year and were on a 5 game win streak. SIU has been 61-1 at home in conference since 2001 and now are 61-2.
ISU finishes the regular season with an RPI of 34, a record of 22-8 and 13-5 in conference play with season sweeps of Southern Illinois and Creighton.

[Cashmoney]

Hopefully Tennessee puts it on Kentucky today so we don't fall past #3 in the polls.

[adschofield]

Illinois State may have gotten an at large bid with their win last night at Southern Illinois. SIU was playing their best basketball all year and were on a 5 game win streak. SIU has been 61-1 at home in conference since 2001 and now are 61-2.
ISU finishes the regular season with an RPI of 34, a record of 22-8 and 13-5 in conference play with season sweeps of Southern Illinois and Creighton.

Nice to see a Jayhawk doing well

[roidrunner]

Louisville. vs. Villanova tonight. Go CARDS!

[Cashmoney]

Big win for Tennessee today, just to hold on.

[Turtlepower]

So, will Indiana even make it past the first round?

[yodapoop]

So, will Indiana even make it past the first round?

I think it will depend on the matchups.

[Cashmoney]

Who knows. They are pretty inconsistent it seems.

[yodapoop]

I will tell u this, THIS IS THE YEAR A 16 SEED BEATS A 1 SEED. I WILL TELL U WHICH ONE ON SELECTION SUNDAY!

[Turtlepower]

I will tell u this, THIS IS THE YEAR A 16 SEED BEATS A 1 SEED. I WILL TELL U WHICH ONE ON SELECTION SUNDAY!

I might agree with you if a certain team I'm thinking of is there as well.

[Cashmoney]

I might agree with you if a certain team I'm thinking of is there as well.

Who you talkin bout turtlepower?!?
(Purses lips)

[roidrunner]

i think losing Kalvin hurts IU more than we would thought it would of. man it is going to rough for them.

on a positive note. Louisville is one of the hottest teams in the NCAA and we play tonight, and i think we are going to whoop Nova tonight.

[TitleTown088]

Gorden is such a chucker, that kid needs to learn to work on his shot selection, big time.

[andyjo672]

I will tell u this, THIS IS THE YEAR A 16 SEED BEATS A 1 SEED. I WILL TELL U WHICH ONE ON SELECTION SUNDAY!


I dont think so...but I can see a #3 going down, maybe a #2.

[PalmerToCJ]

Anyone who tags UK fans with the "you can't win enough" tag is absolutely ignorant. We had people waiting for the bus when the team got home today to thank them for their LOSING effort.

What a game by the Cats, Gillispie coached circles around Pearl. Less 2 of our 4 most talented players and had a whole 36 hours to prepare for not having our most important player. I was very dissapointed to see them not pull it out (thought Crawfords shot was in) but I couldn't have possibly asked for more. Win the next two and we're in the tournament.

[princefielder28]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings

Here's the new Top 25 polls

UNC #1

[yo123]

Kansas is beating Texas Tech 91-38 with 8 minutes left. Yeah...

[yodapoop]

Memphis is gonna lose in round 1.

[iowatreat54]

Kansas is beating Texas Tech 91-38 with 8 minutes left. Yeah...

it makes it even sweeter that it's on Senior Night...gotta be a great game if you're a KU senior

[adschofield]

Wow...what a game to be Jayhawk...Great all around game...all but one player scored...All the seniors played great, and the speeches were great...And to top it off we won by 58...109-51!!!

[yo123]

it makes it even sweeter that it's on Senior Night...gotta be a great game if you're a KU senior



Yeah I felt good for that Case kid that was making all the threes.

Texas Tech is a mess right now though.

[adschofield]

Yeah I felt good for that Case kid that was making all the threes.

Texas Tech is a mess right now though.

I was really happy for Case...my only complaint was that they didn't let Witherspoon (A junior walk-on who's not going to be on the team next year) make a speech

[Giantsfan1080]

Yeah I felt good for that Case kid that was making all the threes.

Texas Tech is a mess right now though.

They are only a mess on the road.

[downthealley]

I'm so pumped for Saturday...my disdain for UNC grows exponentially every day.

[Cashmoney]

Kinda surprised Tennessee fell to #4. Thought we'd be at 3 for sure. Oh well, just trying to get a 1 seed at this point.

[roidrunner]

alright my cards are all the way up to #12.

[downthealley]

I don't think UNC deserves to be number 1, but perhaps my hatred for them is clouding my judgement.

[Giantsfan1080]

I don't think UNC deserves to be number 1, but perhaps my hatred for them is clouding my judgement.

Who should be #1 then?

[downthealley]

I think Memphis should be ahead of them...if only BC would have beaten them because then it would be easier. But, Saturday, they'll drop. Then again, I'm pretty biased because here in NC, most of the UNC fans I know are jerks and I hate Tyler Hansborough because of the ACC title game last year.

[Giantsfan1080]

I think Memphis should be ahead of them...if only BC would have beaten them because then it would be easier. But, Saturday, they'll drop. Then again, I'm pretty biased because here in NC, most of the UNC fans I know are jerks and I hate Tyler Hansborough because of the ACC title game last year.

Ok just curious. You could easily make an argument for Memphis but I think UNC has the better team overall.

[downthealley]

No denying that they're a good team, they just don't impress me very much whenever I watch them.

[Giantsfan1080]

No denying that they're a good team, they just don't impress me very much whenever I watch them.

It's because they dont play defense very well.

[downthealley]

Yeah, one thing I criticize is that they seem to lack any semblance of a scheme and just do whatever.

[adschofield]

Kansas>Everyone else

[Giantsfan1080]

Kansas>Everyone else

Besides Texas IMO.

[Cashmoney]

Kansas>Everyone else

Uh-Oh dude, last time you started this Kansas lost a couple. You might wanna be wary...

[Sniper]

I don't think UNC deserves to be number 1, but perhaps my hatred for them is clouding my judgement.

I'm a Heels fan and I agree with you. Maybe if they played some type of defense, I'd have them up there. It's a damn shame Frasor went down. He's a very good backup to Lawson. Speaking of which.....it'd be nice to have that little bugger back full time for the Duke game.

[NYGibril28]

Conference Tournaments start today! 12 days until Selection Sunday!

Capital One Bowl Week is not the most wonderful time of the year, it's March Madness!

[Cashmoney]

Conf. Tourneys start today? The vols still have two regular season games left.

[SidneyG]

Am I the only who feels like John Thompson III is ruining Georgetown by not running more ? They are winning close games true enough but it seems as if the are winning games on blown or questonable calls. He is running that Princeton offense which got the team to the Final Four last year but with the athletes he has at his disposal ( Freeman, Wright, Summers, Macklin etc) Imean these guys can run. Actually the only guy who is illl suited to an up tempo offense is Hibbert. However he could rebound get a good outlet pass out and make his way down the floor so that if the break is not there they could have the offense flow through him either on the low block where he can use his size or put him at the top of the key and run there normal sets and take advantage of his passing skills. I love the Hoyas and go back to the days of Big Sky Shelton and Bay Bay Duran so it kills me to seee a team this talented with these kind of atheletes play this way. Not to mention that it could hurt recruiting in the future I mean most kids probably would want toplay with a team that runs at least some of the time . I am sure a guy like Summers is extremly frustrated. I went to high school with JTIII and would like to see him do well but this seems a terrible wast of talent.

[yo123]

Kansas>Everyone else



Lets see if they can come through in the tourney for once.

[GB12]

Down goes Purdue! Unless we **** up a game against Penn State or Northwestern (haha) that means the Big Ten title's coming to Madison.

[iowatreat54]

Down goes Purdue! Unless we **** up a game against Penn State or Northwestern (haha) that means the Big Ten title's coming to Madison.

Purdue is a good young team, I don't think they will go far in the tourny but are looking good for the next couple years....and I still think Painter deserves Big10 COY

[yo123]

Purdue is a good young team, I don't think they will go far in the tourny but are looking good for the next couple years....and I still think Painter deserves Big10 COY



I dont think theres any doubt that Painter deserves Coach of the Year. Most people knew Purdue would be good eventually, but he has really done a great job speeding up the learning curve for a lot of these guys.

[thetedginnshow]

I wish the Wildcats would run more plays for Beasley where's he up at the top of the key and given the option to drive and either kick or score. Too often they're actually treating him like a Center on offense when they should be taking advantage of the mismatch. Solid showing by him, in any case.

[PalmerToCJ]

Am I the only who feels like John Thompson III is ruining Georgetown by not running more ? They are winning close games true enough but it seems as if the are winning games on blown or questonable calls. He is running that Princeton offense which got the team to the Final Four last year but with the athletes he has at his disposal ( Freeman, Wright, Summers, Macklin etc) Imean these guys can run. Actually the only guy who is illl suited to an up tempo offense is Hibbert. However he could rebound get a good outlet pass out and make his way down the floor so that if the break is not there they could have the offense flow through him either on the low block where he can use his size or put him at the top of the key and run there normal sets and take advantage of his passing skills. I love the Hoyas and go back to the days of Big Sky Shelton and Bay Bay Duran so it kills me to seee a team this talented with these kind of atheletes play this way. Not to mention that it could hurt recruiting in the future I mean most kids probably would want toplay with a team that runs at least some of the time . I am sure a guy like Summers is extremly frustrated. I went to high school with JTIII and would like to see him do well but this seems a terrible wast of talent.

They could definetely afford to run more but not too much. A team like Memphis or UT won't last till the end in March because it's way easier to slow a game down than it is to speed it up. The recruits want to run but if you're winning they'll look past it. Thompson needs to realize with that talent you don't need to slow the game down.

I think Kansas has the ideal style of play. Tough defense, run when you get the chance but can also play in the half court. Luckily Gillispie is a spawn of Self so I think UK will be in that group once we get more athletic and bring in some scorers.

[Cashmoney]

Go Vols, beat Florida!

[PalmerToCJ]

UK gets USC on their senior night, Joe Crawford (35 huge points) and Ramel Bradley combined for 55 of our 71 points. Absolutely clutch, can't say enough about what Coach Gillispie has done with this team.

New RPI of 47, if/when we beat Florida Sunday we're in the tournament.

[TitleTown088]

Oh Singleteary tries his little heart ou tby shooting 30 crappy shots a game. How cute.

[Cashmoney]

Damn Florida has come out on fire. Oddly enough this reminds me of the game me and my best friend played in 2k8 last night were I ended up losing by 16. Hopefully real-life will end up a little better.

[PalmerToCJ]

Is Florida running on you all? For their case I'd hope not, they won't have a chance in the second half if they are.

[Cashmoney]

Is Florida running on you all? For their case I'd hope not, they won't have a chance in the second half if they are.

Not really, theyre just making all of their shots. 70% from the field at half I believe.

[PalmerToCJ]

Not really, theyre just making all of their shots. 70% from the field at half I believe.

Damn. If they're only up 10 doing that the lead won't last long, Vols win by 10.

Go Mississippi St., if they beat Vandy (heading into OT now I believe) UK has a first round bye in the SEC.

[princefielder28]

Badgers are laying the smackdown on Penn State....come here Big Ten title!

[andyjo672]

Wisconsin is getting hot at the right time in the season. Offense seems to be coming alive and the defense only seems to be getting better.

[PalmerToCJ]

Too bad for Shan Foster that Hansbrough and Beasley are putting up such massive numbers of he'd be getting serious mention for NPOY... He's gotta be a first team all-american.

[andyjo672]

WISCONSIN BIG TEN CHAMPIONS!!!! (Well so far at least co-champions, but champions nonetheless!!!)

[wiscbadgerfootball]

to put it in the words of dead prez, HELL YEAH! GO Badgers!

[Cashmoney]

Big comeback win for UT. Couldn't be happier right now.

[thetedginnshow]

Still, the Vols are my favorites in the Tournament.

[Cashmoney]

I hope so, but they really have been playing quite sloppy lately.

[roidrunner]

i have to cheer for my cards. but my number two team has to be the badgers.

[PalmerToCJ]

Still, the Vols are my favorites in the Tournament.

The Vols are a good team but if they meet a defensive team with a good half court offense to slow the pace they'll bow out early. I doubt they make the final 4, maybe the elite 8.

[thetedginnshow]

The Vols are a good team but if they meet a defensive team with a good half court offense to slow the pace they'll bow out early. I doubt they make the final 4, maybe the elite 8.

Are there many teams like that? Nebraska? I mean, realistically, a team like that could take down Kansas, Memphis, or UNC. I just think that they have enough of everything to go all the way. Certainly may not, but I'd take them over most teams.

[PalmerToCJ]

I have little doubt that UCLA would beat UT 8 times out of 10. Tennessee is just not very good in their half court offense and if you can break the press you can control the tempo.

Kansas/UNC would be fine against a team to slow tempo and limit scoring. Memphis and UT can/will struggle against them. Watch either UK/UT game or the recent UT/Vandy game, it's like a script.

[Cashmoney]

I have little doubt that UCLA would beat UT 8 times out of 10. Tennessee is just not very good in their half court offense and if you can break the press you can control the tempo.

Kansas/UNC would be fine against a team to slow tempo and limit scoring. Memphis and UT can/will struggle against them. Watch either UK/UT game or the recent UT/Vandy game, it's like a script.

I think you might be overestimating how many points the Vols get on turnovers and fast breaks just a little bit. They do their fair share in the half court as well.

[PalmerToCJ]

I'm not saying UT is miserable in the half court but they can't use their athleticism to their advantage. Tyler Smith creating is by far their best tool in the half court.

[Cashmoney]

I'm not saying UT is miserable in the half court but they can't use their athleticism to their advantage. Tyler Smith creating is by far their best tool in the half court.

That or Jujuan Smith and Chris Lofton chucking it up. JP Prince is very incosistent, but he can have some very good offensive games as well.

[thetedginnshow]

I have little doubt that UCLA would beat UT 8 times out of 10. Tennessee is just not very good in their half court offense and if you can break the press you can control the tempo.

Kansas/UNC would be fine against a team to slow tempo and limit scoring. Memphis and UT can/will struggle against them. Watch either UK/UT game or the recent UT/Vandy game, it's like a script.

Actually, when Lawson was out and UNC was forced to go into more of a half court set, they were getting beat or being given close games by teams that had no business being with them. Of all the elite teams, UNC plays the worst defense, so if a team could run the half court on them and really slow down the pace, I have no doubt that they'd lose. A lot of what Kansas and UNC does is predicated on picking up the tempo and using their depth to their advantage.

As for UT and UCLA, I don't know about 8 out of 10, but I'm sure UCLA would beat them more than they lost, and I'm sure that if they set how the game was going to be played, they could take UT. But of course, you were talking about bowing out early and there's no way those two teams would face each other then.

[adschofield]

KU could handle both half-court and full-court games

[etk]

KU could handle both half-court and full-court games

KU should just get it over with and join the NBA. They're too good for college basketball.

[Cashmoney]

KU should just get it over with and join the NBA. They're too good for college basketball.

Except College Basketball>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NBA

[etk]

Except College Basketball>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NBA

Not when Kansas wins 10 straight National Titles.

[Cashmoney]

Not when Kansas wins 10 straight National Titles.

They'd have to make a final four first.

[bored of education]

Xavier For The Win!

[iowatreat54]

They'd have to make a final four first.

oh come on now, Kansas always lives up to expectations...

[T-RICH49]

Wow...what a game to be Jayhawk...Great all around game...all but one player scored...All the seniors played great, and the speeches were great...And to top it off we won by 58...109-51!!!

wait who did not score?

[roidrunner]

saturday at noon the battle for the big east is on. Hoyas vs. Cards. I can not wait.

[PalmerToCJ]

KU could handle both half-court and full-court games

Indeed. They're choke artists but Kansas is a very well balanced team.

[princefielder28]

Xavier is losing in the 2nd half to St. Joe's....kinda glad to see that because I think they're a bit overrated and they screwed my bracket last year when they didn't beat Ohio State like I predicted.

[T-RICH49]

Xavier is back in it not much time left though

[Turtlepower]

Xavier is losing in the 2nd half to St. Joe's....kinda glad to see that because I think they're a bit overrated and they screwed my bracket last year when they didn't beat Ohio State like I predicted.

St. Joe's really isn't that bad of a team and is one to watch out for if they make the tourney. They always seem to play teams close, so I'm not to surprised with the upset.

[princefielder28]

The Wisconsin Badgers defeated the Wildcats of Northwestern today 65-52. The Badgers clinched the outright Big Ten title with the win.

I never thought they would be able to win the conference this year after losing Kam Taylor and Alando Tucker, but they proved me wrong.

[roidrunner]

Louisville lost to Georgetown. Im pretty much heart broken. but atleast i have the badgers winning the big ten today.

[yo123]

The Wisconsin Badgers defeated the Wildcats of Northwestern today 65-52. The Badgers clinched the outright Big Ten title with the win.

I never thought they would be able to win the conference this year after losing Kam Taylor and Alando Tucker, but they proved me wrong.


Is Kammron Taylor playing professionally anywhere?

[princefielder28]

Is Kammron Taylor playing professionally anywhere?

He was on Minnesota's summer league roster but outside of that I have no idea

[duckseason]

Wow the Bruins are being handed another one by the refs at the end. This is unreal.

[TitleTown088]

Wow the Bruins are being handed another one by the refs at the end. This is unreal.

They got a call in their favor.... But Shipp's shot? are you kidding me??? Wow!

[Cashmoney]

Anyone know the score of the Vandy game from earlier today?

[TitleTown088]

Anyone know the score of the Vandy game from earlier today?

I'm sure ESPN does.

[princefielder28]

I'm sure ESPN does.

78-73 in OT

[yodapoop]

Anyone know the score of the Vandy game from earlier today?

78-73 Alabama in OT.

[duckseason]

They got a call in their favor.... But Shipp's shot? are you kidding me??? Wow!

Yeah that was a nice shot, but it never should have happened. The intentional foul on Anderson was as blatant as can be. The refs handed the Bruins yet another. I just hate watching an entire game only to have it ruined at the end. Those Cal kids fought hard and beat the Bruins only to have it stolen from them.

[Bluedevil$]

Duke-UNC tonight, I'm excited. Duke's going to need to get lucky on the boards to win... Lawson will be a problem as well

[princefielder28]

Duke-UNC tonight, I'm excited. Duke's going to need to get lucky on the boards to win... Lawson will be a problem as well

I'm pulling for UNC to win...want the Badgers to continue to climb in the polls...don't think a Duke loss would drop them below Wisconsin but it makes them closer

[thetedginnshow]

Yeah that was a nice shot, but it never should have happened. The intentional foul on Anderson was as blatant as can be. The refs handed the Bruins yet another. I just hate watching an entire game only to have it ruined at the end. Those Cal kids fought hard and beat the Bruins only to have it stolen from them.

Who cares. A game-winner like that is why the whistle should be relaxed the last few seconds of every close game.

[PalmerToCJ]

Woohooo. UK gets the 2 seed in the SEC East. Only have a 3 game route to the SEC championship.

[T-RICH49]

Wow the Bruins are being handed another one by the refs at the end. This is unreal.

Agreed.I wonder if the refs will get a ring if UCLA wins a NC

[duckseason]

Who cares. A game-winner like that is why the whistle should be relaxed the last few seconds of every close game.

Yeah, you're right. Who cares. Why even have rules. That game 'winner' was just so damn awesome that it negates the fact that the refs blatantly stole the ball from Cal and gave it to UCLA, thereby allowing the shot to take place in the first place.

See, Cal beat UCLA. Yet, somehow UCLA gets the W. But yeah, who cares. Why did they even play the game? I mean, nobody cares. Just give UCLA the win. Nobody gives a damn about what happens on the court, right? I mean all those fans in the stands and all the people watching on TV surely don't care. They were all forced to watch at gunpoint and couldn't care less what the turnout of the game was.

I agree the whistle should be a bit relaxed at the end of a tight game, but not when it's an obvious intentional foul situation, and not when it's as hard a foul with such devastating results as we saw with this particular play. BOTH teams are expecting that whistle. Anderson got mugged. There's just no excuse for not calling it.

[TitleTown088]

Yeah that was a nice shot, but it never should have happened. The intentional foul on Anderson was as blatant as can be. The refs handed the Bruins yet another. I just hate watching an entire game only to have it ruined at the end. Those Cal kids fought hard and beat the Bruins only to have it stolen from them.

Just wait until they have to play without pac 10 refs..

Princefeilder, no way does Wisconsin overtake Duke with a loss to UNC.

[princefielder28]

Just wait until they have to play without pac 10 refs..

Princefeilder, no way does Wisconsin overtake Duke with a loss to UNC.

That is what I said but atleast it would make them closerin the polls

[SuperMcgee]

I don't normally watch as many Pac-10 games, but I caught this one and I'm with duck all the way. That was ridiculous non-call. I hate seeing stuff like that. I don't care for either of these teams, but it truly upset me to see it go down like that.

[KCJ58]

the UCLA/Cal game was sick

[thetedginnshow]

Haha. Such anger, duck. I definitely don't care for UCLA and think under normal circumstances that you have to call that, but I just don't agree with calling those fouls at that point in the game. Just my philosophy, but granted I'm not much for most of the things people call "fouls" nowadays anyway.

[GB12]

Whoa now. GB I love ya but drop Illinois and Wisky off that list. It's a three horse race b/w Sparty, the Loosiers, and the Seeds. With Wiksy and Illinois behind them.

You lose your whole friggin team in Tucker and Taylor. You'll be solid next year but not very good.

Like I said, Wisky will be solid. But they won't be competing for the Big 10 title.
What was that sweetness? :D

[sweetness34]

Dookies lose and the Illini win, what a great night! :D

Oh and GB, I don't think anyone could've sanely predicted Wisky would be this good. Credit to Bo and his staff for the team they put out this year. And yes I was wrong....:D

[adschofield]

Indeed. They're choke artists but Kansas is a very well balanced team.

Yeah, this is a huge problem...I'm thinking that since past seasons play such a large role in the current season, that we should have a 4-team tourney with the four most successful programs...something like this:

UK vs. UCLA
KU vs. UNC

Thoughts...it would really eliminate the teams that have not been successful, and continue to not be successful like Xavier and Drake...

Oh wait...

[adschofield]

wait who did not score?

Chase Buford (10 char.)

[adschofield]

KU should just get it over with and join the NBA. They're too good for college basketball.

Quit crying seriously...just because you couldn't bring any valid points as to why Kansas wasn't the top team in the nation, you revert this...tis sad

[Cashmoney]

I dont get why you feel the need to keep declaring Kansas is the best team in the country. It really and truly does not matter at this point.

[adschofield]

I dont get why you feel the need to keep declaring Kansas is the best team in the country. It really and truly does not matter at this point.

Name the last time I did...it was when myself and etk were debating...

It was almost two weeks ago

What should I restrain my opinions on a message boards? Isn't that what they are for?

[Cashmoney]

Kansas>Everyone else

Here 5 days ago. That's a little less than two weeks ago.

[adschofield]

Here 5 days ago. That's a little less than two weeks ago.

Indeed, it was said tounge in cheek, but it's irrealvant, this is message board, people post opinions, if it really bothers I apologize

[Cashmoney]

Indeed, it was said tounge in cheek, but it's irrealvant, this is message board, people post opinions, if it really bothers I apologize

That's fine. That's all I'm doing as well.

[adschofield]

That's fine. That's all I'm doing as well.

So basically your rant is a paradox? lol

Whatever, it's cool man, I'll try to tone down the homerism

[Cashmoney]

So basically your rant is a paradox? lol

Whatever, it's cool man, I'll try to tone down the homerism

Or hippocracy. I hope I spelled that right.

[thetedginnshow]

Well, you didn't. lol

Damn Duke though. It's to be expected though. GET US A BIG, COACH K!

[Cashmoney]

Well, you didn't. lol

Damn Duke though. It's to be expected though. GET US A BIG, COACH K!

I figured it looked too much like how the animal is spelled. Oh well, as long as my Lit. professor doesn't find out I think I'll be good.

[PackerLegend]

Wisconsin Badgers, Big Ten Champions!

http://logo.szuper.info.hu/pic/logo/w/wisconsin_badgers_80306.jpg

Now lets finish it off with the NCAAB CHAMPIONSHIP!

[PalmerToCJ]

Yeah, this is a huge problem...I'm thinking that since past seasons play such a large role in the current season, that we should have a 4-team tourney with the four most successful programs...something like this:

UK vs. UCLA
KU vs. UNC

Thoughts...it would really eliminate the teams that have not been successful, and continue to not be successful like Xavier and Drake...

Oh wait...

Four most successful programs... Why is Kansas there?

Anyway, I love the style of play at Kansas. Although they've always choked under Self, this year by far is the best chance to break out of it with all the seniors and young talent.

[wiscbadgerfootball]

what a weekend!

Wisconsin wins Big 10
Georgetown wins Big East
Duke loses to UNC

[Sniper]

North Carolina Tar Heels: ACC Champs!!!!!!!!!!

Danny Green's block at the end was just gross.

[adschofield]

Four most successful programs... Why is Kansas there?

Anyway, I love the style of play at Kansas. Although they've always choked under Self, this year by far is the best chance to break out of it with all the seniors and young talent.

We're the 3rd most winingest (sp?) program in college basketball history

[adschofield]

etk, do actually want to debate about college basketball or just continue personal attacks? It's quite annoying

[soybean]

Yeah, you're right. Who cares. Why even have rules. That game 'winner' was just so damn awesome that it negates the fact that the refs blatantly stole the ball from Cal and gave it to UCLA, thereby allowing the shot to take place in the first place.

See, Cal beat UCLA. Yet, somehow UCLA gets the W. But yeah, who cares. Why did they even play the game? I mean, nobody cares. Just give UCLA the win. Nobody gives a damn about what happens on the court, right? I mean all those fans in the stands and all the people watching on TV surely don't care. They were all forced to watch at gunpoint and couldn't care less what the turnout of the game was.

I agree the whistle should be a bit relaxed at the end of a tight game, but not when it's an obvious intentional foul situation, and not when it's as hard a foul with such devastating results as we saw with this particular play. BOTH teams are expecting that whistle. Anderson got mugged. There's just no excuse for not calling it.

i was rooting for UCLA but found this story on espn:

NCAA Rule 7, Section 1, Article 3
''The ball shall be out of bounds when it passes over the backboard from any direction.''

Pac-10 officiating coordinator Bill McCabe told ESPN.com Saturday night that official Dave Libbey was well aware of the rule that a shot cannot come from over the top of the backboard and be counted as good.

But McCabe said Libbey chose to allow Josh Shipp's game-winning rainbow bucket over the corner of the backboard from along the baseline that went in with 1.5 seconds left to give UCLA an 81-80 victory over Cal at Pauley Pavilion.

[etk]

etk, do actually want to debate about college basketball or just continue personal attacks? It's quite annoying

Last I checked....you're the one that neg repped me with a nasty comment, so don't even try to pull something like this.

There's nothing to debate. You try to pimp Kansas too much in this thread and it's annoying. It's one thing to say "Kansas beat Team X today. Player X did this" and it's another thing to say "Kansas is the best team. Kansas does this best" just out of the blue. I think North Carolina is the best and most deserving #1 team by a fair margin and Kansas' choking habits has to be something you consider when evaluating a team. Same thing with OSU in football this year. I don't really care whether or not Kansas can play 1/2 and full court games because who knows if they can even beat a #9 seed.

[yo123]

i was rooting for UCLA but found this story on espn:




Yeah that should have been called out of bounds, but the rule really makes no sense to me, how is it out of bounds when it comes from behind the basket to the front?

[roidrunner]

did anyone see that special last night before the Duke UNC game, "Speedo Guy" it was absolutely hilarious.

[adschofield]

Last I checked....you're the one that neg repped me with a nasty comment, so don't even try to pull something like this.

There's nothing to debate. You try to pimp Kansas too much in this thread and it's annoying. It's one thing to say "Kansas beat Team X today. Player X did this" and it's another thing to say "Kansas is the best team. Kansas does this best" just out of the blue. I think North Carolina is the best and most deserving #1 team by a fair margin and Kansas' choking habits has to be something you consider when evaluating a team. Same thing with OSU in football this year. I don't really care whether or not Kansas can play 1/2 and full court games because who knows if they can even beat a #9 seed.

Nasty comment, lol, how old are you?

I said that Kansas was the best team in the nation over 2 weeks because most posters started ranking their top 10 teams...You called me out on it without any facts whatsoever, and you have still yet to tell me how why Kansas isn't the best team in the nation.

Did I ever say that KU was more deserving of the #1 ranking by the polls? No, but I simply stated that I thought they were the best team in the nation.

"Who knows if they can even beat a #9?" Well they beat a #9 last year, and besides, you can say that about every team in the country...you still have to play the games.

As for the choking, I don't really see your point, they choked when the team was full of freshman and sophmores, the team has grown up.

No if you really have a problem with me expressing my opinions, I apologize and suggest you no longer read message boards.

Finally, I'm going to ask you once more, why is UNC or any other team better than Kansas. Be sure to provide actual evidence this time, not just "UNC is best"

[yodapoop]

Since UWM will not make the tourney(s), here is who I will be cheering for.......




http://www.collegeinsider.com/indy06/images/bruce_pearl1.JPG

http://loserwithsocks.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/bp1.jpg,
I have no idea who that is, but nice going Brucey!

http://professorfalken.com/images/pearl.jpg

http://www.imgplace.net/files/126/bruce_pearl.jpg

http://www.lilangelcouture.com/images/sports/tennessee_lg2.jpg

GO VOLS!!!!!!!

[roidrunner]

Yoda why not cheer for a local team like Wisconsin, rather than a liar like Pearl. Didnt he say that he never wanted to leave milwaukee, and UWM. but like a week later left for Tenn??

Sorry but i just dont like pearl too much.

[etk]

I think UNC is the best team in the nation because they're physical on the inside, they get to the line, they get other teams in foul trouble, they have a nice 1/2 court game and they have a dependable big man in Hansbrough. My only knock on them is size but they play big.

[Cashmoney]

Since UWM will not make the tourney(s), here is who I will be cheering for.......




http://www.collegeinsider.com/indy06/images/bruce_pearl1.JPG

http://loserwithsocks.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/bp1.jpg,
I have no idea who that is, but nice going Brucey!

http://professorfalken.com/images/pearl.jpg

http://www.imgplace.net/files/126/bruce_pearl.jpg

http://www.lilangelcouture.com/images/sports/tennessee_lg2.jpg

GO VOLS!!!!!!!

You sir, are cheering for the right guy as you can see by my sig. Bruce Pearl is the man. You should've put a pic up where he groped Erin Andrews. :)

[yodapoop]

Yoda why not cheer for a local team like Wisconsin, rather than a liar like Pearl. Didnt he say that he never wanted to leave milwaukee, and UWM. but like a week later left for Tenn??

Sorry but i just dont like pearl too much.

I have nothing against Pearl and leaving Milwaukee, lets compare for a moment here.

Tennessee plays in the SEC, Milwaukee the Horizon League.

Tennessee can pay him much, much more than Milwaukee, Tennessee has an endownment of $1 billion to our $150 million.

Unless some crazy **** happens, Milwaukee will never win a national championship, hell the Sweet 16 is prolly our max, Tennessee can do it.

Tennessee plays in a beautiful arena that is full, Milwaukee plays in a dump that is usually 3/4 empty unless we are winning or we are playing UW.

Have no issue with Mr. Pearl. However, I do hope Wisconsin and Tennessee are on opposite sides of the bracket so they wouldn't have to play til the NC, so I also hope to see UW do well.

[dabears10]

ISU, picked a horrible time to play their worst game of the year. Basically puts them on the outside of the bubble and most likely headed to the NIT. Not good.

Drake played a great game and possibly gave themselves a 5 seed. It's too bad.

[roidrunner]

ok fair enough. im hoping for a Wisconsin Louisville National title game

[yodapoop]

XIO AND GENTLEMEN OF NFLDC, AN ANNOUNCEMENT

I have created a NCAA tournament pool NFLDC style. PLEASE JION!

Group ID: 33378
Password: football

JUST NOTICED THANKS TO MY PROTESGE DR. GONZO and also ROIDRUNNER, IT IS ON YAHOO!
`
Scoring Will Go Like This
1st Round: 2
2nd Round: 4
3rd Round: 8
4th Round: 16
5th Round: 32
6th Round: 65

[roidrunner]

where is it at?

[yodapoop]

where is it at?

Yeah, just noticed I forgot, it is yahoo.

[roidrunner]

alright i joined. already four of us in there.

[yodapoop]

alright i joined. already four of us in there.

Five now, what can I say, I'm kind of a big deal around here, people know me.

[roidrunner]

how many does the group fit??

[yodapoop]

how many does the group fit??

I have no idea, never asked me a max, so maybe how ever many want in.

[roidrunner]

well we gained another one.

also did anyone else sign up for the prizes that you could win??

[roidrunner]

by the way apparently there is no limit on the amount of people who can join.

[nvot9]

Nasty comment, lol, how old are you?

I said that Kansas was the best team in the nation over 2 weeks because most posters started ranking their top 10 teams...You called me out on it without any facts whatsoever, and you have still yet to tell me how why Kansas isn't the best team in the nation.

Did I ever say that KU was more deserving of the #1 ranking by the polls? No, but I simply stated that I thought they were the best team in the nation.

"Who knows if they can even beat a #9?" Well they beat a #9 last year, and besides, you can say that about every team in the country...you still have to play the games.

As for the choking, I don't really see your point, they choked when the team was full of freshman and sophmores, the team has grown up.

No if you really have a problem with me expressing my opinions, I apologize and suggest you no longer read message boards.

Finally, I'm going to ask you once more, why is UNC or any other team better than Kansas. Be sure to provide actual evidence this time, not just "UNC is best"


How bout this, tell me if this is good enough evidence for you....

Because UNC is ranked number one, and Kansas is ******* not. Is that understandable? That's why UNC is better than Kansas.

And it does matter about what happens in past tournaments for a number of reasons.

A) Some of the players who were members of previous Kansas teams that choked are still on the team.

B) Since they've choked many times recently, it's going to be on their mind so that they can prove that they're not the same Kansas team, it's additional pressure and additional nervousness.

[roidrunner]

Yoda's pimp hand is way strong.

we are eleven keep them coming

[yodapoop]

Yoda's pimp hand is way strong.

we are eleven keep them coming

I am getting them in, not by niceness, but by forcefullness.

[roidrunner]

just remember to use your back hand, that way if they press charges it is a misdemeanor.

and baby powder too.

[JETS5128]

How bout this, tell me if this is good enough evidence for you....

Because UNC is ranked number one, and Kansas is ******* not. Is that understandable? That's why UNC is better than Kansas.

And it does matter about what happens in past tournaments for a number of reasons.

A) Some of the players who were members of previous Kansas teams that choked are still on the team.

B) Since they've choked many times recently, it's going to be on their mind so that they can prove that they're not the same Kansas team, it's additional pressure and additional nervousness.

A) Like who? Simien, Myles, Langford all left bud. Darnell and RR were freshmen that year and barely even played.

B) The last time Kansas choked was in 05 against Bucknell. Unless you call getting to the Elite 8 and losing to a very good UCLA team choking. The bottom line is that this Kansas team is the same team that made it that far last year, with another year of experience under their belt. The only player the lost is Julian Wright, but his absence has allowed Shady to emerge. There is no reason to think this team can't do last years team one better and reach the Final Four. If you had to pick a favorite, they would be one of your top options this year. The only way they lose is if they lay a HUGE egg. All three losses this year they didn't show up, and two of those games they still had chances to win.

[iowatreat54]

I joined, because I feel bad for yodachu, and want to add to the continuing sucking of St. Louis :D

[adschofield]

How bout this, tell me if this is good enough evidence for you....

Because UNC is ranked number one, and Kansas is ******* not. Is that understandable? That's why UNC is better than Kansas.

And it does matter about what happens in past tournaments for a number of reasons.

A) Some of the players who were members of previous Kansas teams that choked are still on the team.

B) Since they've choked many times recently, it's going to be on their mind so that they can prove that they're not the same Kansas team, it's additional pressure and additional nervousness.

A. So why do we have a tournament? If the number 1 team is the best team, then we should just give them the title right? Polls mean nothing...Florida was unranked before they won their first NCAA title, it's a mute point.

B. Your point would make sense if we still had the 2005 team, which was full of Roy Williams' seniors who didn't want to buy into Bill Self's system...Saying that just because we got upset by Bucknell means that we will choke again is a dumb point...obivisouly, as with every other team in the nation, an upset is possible, but just because we lost to Bucknell several years ago doesn't mean we'll be upset again.

What is the cause-effect relationship between the two...saying that 'Oh, Kansas choked before means they'll choke again' is quite honestly dumb. Every major program has been upset before, does that mean they'll choke again this year?

[thetedginnshow]

Man. Can't believe the Buckeyes beat MSU. The Big Ten is weird this year. It's all Eric Gordon's fault...

[adschofield]

VCU got knocked out of the CAA tourney...Anyone think they'll get an at-large bid? They're 24-6 with a RPI of 45

[roidrunner]

there is a possibility but i think it will really hurt there chances.

[princefielder28]

VCU got knocked out of the CAA tourney...Anyone think they'll get an at-large bid? They're 24-6 with a RPI of 45

I don't think they'll make it....outside of the win against Maryland they haven't beaten many good teams

[bearsfan_51]

Man Illinois State got smacked in the mouth really hard. That should open up an at-large spot that previously likely would have gone to them.

[KCJ58]

VCU got knocked out of the CAA tourney...Anyone think they'll get an at-large bid? They're 24-6 with a RPI of 45

If Maryland wins out

[etk]

Anyone watching the UCONN game? I guess because of the delay from the weather I no longer get the game, but we absolutely stomped all over Cincy in the 1st half.

[PalmerToCJ]

haha beautiful, maybe UK fans can now realize they aren't getting in the tourney this year.

What was that :D

This team is unbelievable. One of my favorite Kentucky teams of all time. Rupp was insane today to send off Joe and Ramel. We're all in love with our coach, things are good.

[roidrunner]

UK fans in love with their coach?????? That never happens all i hear is UK fans complaining about their coaches.

[PalmerToCJ]

You're listening to the oddballs then, Loserville fans grumble pretty hard when Pitino starts off slow.

I've been happy with our coaches excluding the 2006-2007 season, which oddly enough, was when Tubby was finding a way out of here. He quit on me before I quit on him.

[adschofield]

I think VCU will get Illinois State's spot

[yodapoop]

I think VCU will get Illinois State's spot

I agree competely, now every1 join my bracket challenge thing!

[yodapoop]

Prince, BF51, Palmer2CJ, etk and Adschofield, this thing will not be the same with out u two!

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Scoring Will Go Like This
1st Round: 2
2nd Round: 4
3rd Round: 8
4th Round: 16
5th Round: 32
6th Round: 65

[adschofield]

I'm in Yoda...I'm the Fighting Pubestaches

[yodapoop]

I'm in Yoda...I'm the Fighting Pubestaches

Good call man adschofield, good call. Thought that was some1 else.

[scottyboy]

damn VCU better get in. the tourney needs the Violent C's!!!!!!

[mikehop05]

maryland is the most frustrating team in the nation.

[wiscbadgerfootball]

agreed dude they can be so good one game and terrible the next

[Forenci]

Anyone watching the UCONN game? I guess because of the delay from the weather I no longer get the game, but we absolutely stomped all over Cincy in the 1st half.

Haha, yeah man. Since I'm here in Connecticut I get all the games on TV.

Man, it was UNREAL. We went on a 30-0 run in the first half. It was insane. Adrien was hitting jumpers (even nailed a three pointer), and Robinson and Thabeet were superb. Honestly, every single one of our players looked great out there.

Dyson really played well too, I think he's finally starting to get into his groove since coming back.

I'm telling you, we built a ton of momentum going into the Big East tournament and NCAA tournament too.

[PalmerToCJ]

I'm so in.

For some reason, the more I pay attention to college basketball the worse off I am at these things. When I was like 12-13-14 I went on a tear, I won $300 when MSU (Mateen Cleaves) won it all and almost won it in '96 and '00. I've been very so-so lately.

[roidrunner]

we Louisville fans understand that under Rick Pitino, our teams are always ranked early. fall apart early, then the team realizes their potential and starts producing about middle January. We are unbeatable in February. and March is about 50-50. depends on the streak the team is. Every UK fan i have met before you has always had something negative to say about the team unless they are ranked #1

[etk]

I'm so in.

For some reason, the more I pay attention to college basketball the worse off I am at these things. When I was like 12-13-14 I went on a tear, I won $300 when MSU (Mateen Cleaves) won it all and almost won it in '96 and '00. I've been very so-so lately.

HAHA I think I won $300 too when MSU upset Duke and made the Final Four and UWM made the Sweet 16. I must've been 13/14 then. Now I suck because I don't pick on intuition.

[yodapoop]

HAHA I think I won $300 too when MSU upset Duke and made the Final Four and UWM made the Sweet 16. I must've been 13/14 then. Now I suck because I don't pick on intuition.

Yeah my brother won things a couple of years cuz he picked the 3 seed from the bottom right side of the bracket (Florida and Syracuse), but mainly he picked Cuse cuz of Melo and he decided to go back to the bottom right stradegy one year.

[etk]

Hmm....bottom right strategy? Speaking of corners I always seem to get the top left perfect or almost perfect.

I joined your thingy BTW. Is JBond gonna be mailing the winner $5 again?

[PalmerToCJ]

HAHA I think I won $300 too when MSU upset Duke and made the Final Four and UWM made the Sweet 16. I must've been 13/14 then. Now I suck because I don't pick on intuition.

haha seriously. I just went on completely random hunches and did a really good job of it.

Now I base it off what I think I know and I usually have no chance once we're at the elite 8.

[bored of education]

I think UMass wins it all

[roidrunner]

so is UK going to win there first tourny game if they make it?

[PalmerToCJ]

When PP first went down I would've said very little chance, now, I'm fairly confident.

It's really a matter of matchups. I think if we get a 10 there won't be too much concern about a team having good big men at the 7 seed.

Teams like Louisville, Stanford, UCLA, UNC and Kansas would really give us a hard time. Any guard oriented team I'm confident against. I think this team is very capable of a sweet 16 run but it's a matter of matchups and like with any team, luck.

[sweetness34]

Bruce Pearl is a piece of slime that ruined Illini Basketball for years. If it means anything I like Sampson more than Pearl...Yep I said it.

[yodapoop]

Bruce Pearl is a piece of slime that ruined Illini Basketball for years. If it means anything I like Sampson more than Pearl...Yep I said it.

Sweetness, join the NFLDC bracket thing!

[princefielder28]

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings

New ESPN/USA Today Poll!!!

Badgers are 6th!!!!

[roidrunner]

so do you think they will be a #2 or #3 seed?

[princefielder28]

so do you think they will be a #2 or #3 seed?

Badgers are gonna be a two seed as long as they don't lose to Iowa or Michigan in the quarterfinals of the Big Ten tourney

[Sniper]

Badgers are gonna be a two seed as long as they don't lose to Iowa or Michigan in the quarterfinals of the Big Ten tourney

Manny Harris will ruin your dreams of a #2 seed!

[Cashmoney]

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings

New ESPN/USA Today Poll!!!

Badgers are 6th!!!!

I think even though UCLA won their games they should've dropped a little.

[PalmerToCJ]

Damn, I was hoping that by some miracle UK would crack into spot 25. Maybe in the AP.

[roidrunner]

well UofL is 13 i guess i can live with that, even though we should of beaten Georgetown.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Mason will be a team to watch in the tourny, Folarin Campbell and Will Thomas were arguably their two best players when they made the final 4, and now both are seniors and much better, especially Thomas, and Campbell as a point. Thomas is one of the best pure "college" big men. They have some good guards, problem is frontcourt depth but even two years ago that wasn't a problem. If they find their swag again they can make a sweet 16 run, and who knows from then. Lightning could strike again.

[yodapoop]

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4th Round: 16
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6th Round: 65

[Cashmoney]

Im not gonna say they'll make a run at the sweet 16 but if Belmont gets a 14 seed, depending on who they play in the first round I'd say don't be surprised if they can pull an upset.

[Forenci]

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings

New ESPN/USA Today Poll!!!

Badgers are 6th!!!!

Wait wait, wasn't UConn 14th last week?

If so, how the hell did we drop one for destroying Cincinatti?

[Cashmoney]

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6th Round: 65

I joined Yoda

[andyjo672]

I just watched a story on the BTN about DJ White...he seems like a stand up guy, and I like the fact that he stuck around for 4 years (not that he had a lot of other options)...where in the draft will he go, does anyone have a good estimate?

I hate Indiana, but I love to see players that really seem to care about their universities and appreciate the opportunities they were given.

[Pacific]

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3rd Round: 8
4th Round: 16
5th Round: 32
6th Round: 65

.....joined

[iowatreat54]

san diego shocks gonzaga

[KCJ58]

Gonzaga lost gonna be some pissed off bubble teams

[PalmerToCJ]

Really bothered me to hear the ESPN talking heads list SD as one of UK's terrible losses (in the same breath with Gardner-Webb), they're not a bad team. They nearly won the outright WCC title, beat St. Mary's twice.

[etk]

Wait wait, wasn't UConn 14th last week?

If so, how the hell did we drop one for destroying Cincinatti?

We lost to Providence again....haha.

[Cashmoney]

MTSU is one win from making the tourney. WooHoo!

[yo123]

I just watched a story on the BTN about DJ White...he seems like a stand up guy, and I like the fact that he stuck around for 4 years (not that he had a lot of other options)...where in the draft will he go, does anyone have a good estimate?

I hate Indiana, but I love to see players that really seem to care about their universities and appreciate the opportunities they were given.



I know some people don't like him, but I think he's going to be a good player in the NBA, he has great touch around the basket, but obviously he's also very strong and can finish through contact, along with being a great rebounder. I see him being a Paul Milsap type player.

[iowatreat54]

Keno Davis wins Sporting News Coach of the Year
http://www.drake.edu/news/db/official/archive.php?article=2832

well deserved, IMO