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GB12
01-09-2007, 08:50 PM
8 1/2 minutes without a FG and down 6? I'll take it.

And theres a 3...

You up for a little bet?

Possibly. Details?

Just an avy bet. Winner chooses the losers avatar, can be anything but has to be related to one of the teams.

Deal, how long does the avy stay up?

How long will the loser(you) keep it? next time we play?

Feb? I'd love to see you have a nice Ohio State avy until then. Maybe even Part II of the bet when the game in Columbus happens.

2/25/2007. Fine with me

NickBam
01-09-2007, 08:53 PM
2/25/2007. Fine with me

It's final. Go Bucks.

Oh, the disappointment my Wisky alum grandpa would have in me. :lol:

TitleTown088
01-09-2007, 08:59 PM
8 1/2 minutes without a FG and down 6? I'll take it.

And theres a 3...

You up for a little bet?

Possibly. Details?

Just an avy bet. Winner chooses the losers avatar, can be anything but has to be related to one of the teams.

Deal, how long does the avy stay up?

How long will the loser(you) keep it? next time we play?

Feb? I'd love to see you have a nice Ohio State avy until then. Maybe even Part II of the bet when the game in Columbus happens.

have fun with your new avy.

TitleTown088
01-09-2007, 09:03 PM
man clemson is damn good, i never paid much attention to them before. They are my darkhorse for the ACC 8)

FlutiesDropKick
01-09-2007, 09:15 PM
man clemson is damn good, i never paid much attention to them before. They are my darkhorse for the ACC 8)

i think by this point they've lost dark horse label. They are by no means the favorite but they are very capable of winning the conference

TitleTown088
01-09-2007, 09:26 PM
man clemson is damn good, i never paid much attention to them before. They are my darkhorse for the ACC 8)

i think by this point they've lost dark horse label. They are by no means the favorite but they are very capable of winning the conference
they still gotaa beat UNC, duke, and GT, so they are my semi-darkhorse.

dRaFtDoRk
01-09-2007, 09:40 PM
Wow, we are taking some of the most pathetic shots I have ever seen. We are going three point crazy, but we aren't making a lot of them. Lighty and Conley are playing like idiots and Greg Oden isn't getting the ball at all. This is a sorry last couple days for OSU Athletics.

TitleTown088
01-09-2007, 10:12 PM
ahaha they just called him Dick krabenhoft :lol:

I played on joe krabenhoft's basketball team. this is why i love wisky.

GB12
01-09-2007, 10:14 PM
Almost threw that one away.

NickBam
01-09-2007, 10:15 PM
What happened to the folding under pressure post, TitleTown?

Anyways, good game Wisky. See ya in February.

GB12
01-09-2007, 10:17 PM
What happened to the folding under pressure post, TitleTown?

Anyways, good games Wisky. See ya in February.

This is what I have been worrying about. We need to make free throws or we are going to go out in the tourney.

NickBam
01-09-2007, 10:18 PM
What happened to the folding under pressure post, TitleTown?

Anyways, good games Wisky. See ya in February.

This is what I have been worrying about. We need to make free throws or we are going to go out in the tourney.

Tucker needs to spend some extra time in the gym tomorrow. He's a great player and most likely the Big Ten Player of the Year, but do you guys trust anyone besides Kamron Taylor at the line in crunch time?

TitleTown088
01-09-2007, 10:19 PM
What happened to the folding under pressure post, TitleTown?

Anyways, good game Wisky. See ya in February.

you want it back up ? because it is true. I just felt i worded it horribly so i deleted it.

NickBam
01-09-2007, 10:21 PM
What happened to the folding under pressure post, TitleTown?

Anyways, good game Wisky. See ya in February.

you want it back up ? because it is true. I just felt i worded it horribly so i deleted it.

Well that one lapse was mid second half during that 21-6 run, then OSU answered back with a run to give them a shot to tie the game at the end.

TitleTown088
01-09-2007, 10:26 PM
http://www.celebopedia.com/mcgrady/images/tracy_mcgrady.jpg

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/29/293778.jpg

anyone else see it , or is it just me?

GB12
01-09-2007, 10:48 PM
What happened to the folding under pressure post, TitleTown?

Anyways, good games Wisky. See ya in February.

This is what I have been worrying about. We need to make free throws or we are going to go out in the tourney.

Tucker needs to spend some extra time in the gym tomorrow. He's a great player and most likely the Big Ten Player of the Year, but do you guys trust anyone besides Kamron Taylor at the line in crunch time?

That's always been a problem for him, he was just above 50% last year. As a team we don't have much besides Taylor but Bohannon is a good FT shooter that we can put in, I also trust Flowers but other than that it's terrible.

GB12
01-09-2007, 10:52 PM
http://www.celebopedia.com/mcgrady/images/tracy_mcgrady.jpg

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/29/293778.jpg

anyone else see it , or is it just me?

http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/bigpicture/images/chrisrock.jpg

http://mtimages.cstv.com/wisconsin/taylor_kammron_mbb_04_03af-thumb.jpg

NickBam
01-09-2007, 10:55 PM
Taylor/Rock is scary, even my dad has been making comments about it since we first saw him play a year or two ago.

GB12
01-09-2007, 11:17 PM
I had to decide between a couple but it will be the motion W.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7765/wisconsinlogoui8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

thetedginnshow
01-09-2007, 11:17 PM
I know they lost, but Ohio State's proving that they could be nasty come tournament time. Tucker looked good, but I don't know about Wisconsin. They look pretty solid for now though, and that was a hell of a shot by Tucker.

GB12
01-09-2007, 11:20 PM
I know they lost, but Ohio State's proving that they could be nasty come tournament time. Tucker looked good, but I don't know about Wisconsin. They look pretty solid for now though, and that was a hell of a shot by Tucker.

Tucker wasn't to impressive tonight compared to what he has done. Taylor had a great game. I like our chances, but like I said FT shooting needs to improve soon.

NYmoney
01-10-2007, 09:16 AM
I know they lost, but Ohio State's proving that they could be nasty come tournament time. Tucker looked good, but I don't know about Wisconsin. They look pretty solid for now though, and that was a hell of a shot by Tucker.

Tucker wasn't to impressive tonight compared to what he has done. Taylor had a great game. I like our chances, but like I said FT shooting needs to improve soon.

ft% is vital come tourney time. that will be Wisconsin's shortcoming.

sik wit it
01-10-2007, 11:35 AM
I was fortunate enough to go to the Wisky osu game and it was nucking futs. All I gotta say the unsung hero for Wisconsin this year is Marcus Landry. He's givin r 100% on both sides of the floor. IMO him and kam were mvps of the game. I dont think the score did any justice to the badgers. They maintained the lead for the whole game and should have put the game away a lot earlier. Solid win for Bucky and its just another step to the championship.

**** EM BUCKY!!

Boston
01-10-2007, 03:41 PM
I had to decide between a couple but it will be the motion W.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7765/wisconsinlogoui8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

God. Wisconsin was dominating before the started playing the "kill the clock" game.

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 06:38 PM
I think GT may upset duke tonight.

Smokey Joe
01-10-2007, 06:42 PM
:lol: Hey GB12, where'd you get that sig quote? IIRC, that was from the summer.

Grizzlegom
01-10-2007, 06:46 PM
well since this is the college hoops thread, i just have a question.

i know nothing about college basketball but i was just wondering how many games are in the regular season for each team?

GB12
01-10-2007, 06:50 PM
well since this is the college hoops thread, i just have a question.

i know nothing about college basketball but i was just wondering how many games are in the regular season for each team?

It's usually around 30.

GB12
01-10-2007, 06:51 PM
:lol: Hey GB12, where'd you get that sig quote? IIRC, that was from the summer.

That was from on here not long after it joined.

SpitKing
01-10-2007, 07:07 PM
What a sweet win by my Badgers last night. I have to give props to Ohio State as well. They looked fantastic to me, and by the time the tourney rolls around they will be a VERY tough out. It just goes to show how far Bo Ryan has brought the Badger program that they can not only now compete with teams that have great atheletes they can at times DOMINATE them as they did for a stretch last night. They are so deep and they continue to be one of the hungriest teams in the nation. Bo Ryan wouldnt have it any other way.

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 07:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuQ-dlhyfNc

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 07:55 PM
greg paulus is a ******* joke and he single handedly pissed this game away for duke.

01-10-2007, 08:02 PM
Georgia Tech beat Duke and the Hoosiers are whooping the Boilers. Today was a very good day.

Boston
01-10-2007, 08:03 PM
greg paulus is a *********** joke and he single handedly pissed this game away for duke.

Duke is overrated.

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 08:05 PM
greg paulus is a *********** joke and he single handedly pissed this game away for duke.

Duke is overrated.
Duke should have won this game by 10+ with all the turnover GT had. paulus pissed their opportunity away with all his stupid turnovers during their 12-3 run.
That's duke is overrated statement was really in depth. It showed you know exactly what your talking about.

SuperMcgee
01-10-2007, 09:02 PM
Is it a yahoo screw up or does Missouri really have 72 points in 16 minutes?

- stupid yahoo

yo123
01-10-2007, 09:06 PM
greg paulus is a *********** joke and he single handedly pissed this game away for duke.

Duke is overrated.
Duke should have won this game by 10+ with all the turnover GT had. paulus pissed their opportunity away with all his stupid turnovers during their 12-3 run.
That's duke is overrated statement was really in depth. It showed you know exactly what your talking about.



They are definetly overrated. McRoberts has tons of talent but obviously doesnt have a single clue how to use it. Paulus is terrible. Scheyer will be good in time but is only a role player for now. I like Henderson a lot from what ive seen though hes a good player.

SuperMcgee
01-10-2007, 09:07 PM
so many turnovers, I hate us

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 09:14 PM
greg paulus is a *********** joke and he single handedly pissed this game away for duke.

Duke is overrated.
Duke should have won this game by 10+ with all the turnover GT had. paulus pissed their opportunity away with all his stupid turnovers during their 12-3 run.
That's duke is overrated statement was really in depth. It showed you know exactly what your talking about.



They are definetly overrated. McRoberts has tons of talent but obviously doesnt have a single clue how to use it. Paulus is terrible. Scheyer will be good in time but is only a role player for now. I like Henderson a lot from what ive seen though hes a good player. I don't think they will be overrated whith the new ranking they will get after this week . come tourney dime these diaper dandies will be a force to reckon with. They are just too young and lack leadership, paulus makes too many mistakes to be a true point guard.

GB12
01-10-2007, 09:15 PM
Marquette won at UCONN after dropping 2 straight.

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 09:16 PM
Marquette won at UCONN after dropping 2 straight.
I watched that game, goo win by Marquette.

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 09:28 PM
KU is putting the smack down on OK ST.

sweetness34
01-10-2007, 11:05 PM
Whoo Hooo go Duke! :D

That's all I'll say (btw Illinois beat Iowa tonight, sure we only won by 4 but hey a win is a win, especially with the way we've been playing).

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 11:07 PM
Whoo Hooo go Duke! :D

That's all I'll say (btw Illinois beat Iowa tonight, sure we only won by 4 but hey a win is a win, especially with the way we've been playing).

all i gotta say is look who duke lost to and look who illinios lost to :D

sweetness34
01-10-2007, 11:10 PM
Whoo Hooo go Duke! :D

That's all I'll say (btw Illinois beat Iowa tonight, sure we only won by 4 but hey a win is a win, especially with the way we've been playing).

all i gotta say is look who duke lost to and look who illinios lost to :D

Ohio State, Maryland, Arizona, Michigan, and Xavier; 3 of which were on the road.

You've lost to Marquette, Virginia Tech, and Georgia Tech; hmm I'd say our losses are a little better than yours. 3 top 25 teams we've lost to; and the other 2 were at Michigan, a very tough place to play and at Xavier; a flat out bad game.

Oh, btw you lost to Va Tech at home my friend. :lol:

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 11:15 PM
Whoo Hooo go Duke! :D

That's all I'll say (btw Illinois beat Iowa tonight, sure we only won by 4 but hey a win is a win, especially with the way we've been playing).

all i gotta say is look who duke lost to and look who illinios lost to :D

Ohio State, Maryland, Arizona, Michigan, and Xavier; 3 of which were on the road.

You've lost to Marquette, Virginia Tech, and Georgia Tech; hmm I'd say our losses are a little better than yours. 3 top 25 teams we've lost to; and the other 2 were at Michigan, a very tough place to play and at Xavier; a flat out bad game.

Oh, btw you lost to Va Tech at home my friend. :lol:

that's still 3 losses to 5. :lol:

and VT plays Duke really toigh every year, last year at home duke needed this to win... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuQ-dlhyfNc

I don't know what it is about VT they damn near beat duke every year.

yodapoop
01-10-2007, 11:39 PM
EVERY1 SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT DUKE! THANK U! GREG POLUS, GO GET YOUR **** CUT OFF AND JOIN THE WOMENS BASKETBALL TEAM. OH WAIT, UR NOT GOOD ENOUGHT TO PLAY FOR THEM EITHER. JUST GO MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE MENS LACROSSE TEAM. POLUS BLOWS! TECH SCHOOLS FART IN UR GENERAL DIRECTION, UR MOTHER IS A HAMPSTER AND UR FATHER SMELLS OF VILDER BERRIES. U R A WIPER OF OTHER PEOPLES BOTTOMS. GO **** A GOAT!

TitleTown088
01-10-2007, 11:43 PM
EVERY1 SHUT THE *********** UP ABOUT DUKE! THANK U! GREG POLUS, GO GET YOUR *********** CUT OFF AND JOIN THE WOMENS BASKETBALL TEAM. OH WAIT, UR NOT GOOD ENOUGHT TO PLAY FOR THEM EITHER. JUST GO MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE MENS LACROSSE TEAM. POLUS BLOWS! TECH SCHOOLS FART IN UR GENERAL DIRECTION, UR MOTHER IS A HAMPSTER AND UR FATHER SMELLS OF VILDER BERRIES. U R A WIPER OF OTHER PEOPLES BOTTOMS. GO *********** A GOAT!

I concur. **** paulus.

GB12
01-10-2007, 11:44 PM
EVERY1 SHUT THE *********** UP ABOUT DUKE! THANK U! GREG POLUS, GO GET YOUR *********** CUT OFF AND JOIN THE WOMENS BASKETBALL TEAM. OH WAIT, UR NOT GOOD ENOUGHT TO PLAY FOR THEM EITHER. JUST GO MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE MENS LACROSSE TEAM. POLUS BLOWS! TECH SCHOOLS FART IN UR GENERAL DIRECTION, UR MOTHER IS A HAMPSTER AND UR FATHER SMELLS OF VILDER BERRIES. U R A WIPER OF OTHER PEOPLES BOTTOMS. GO *********** A GOAT!

:cry:
http://www.bookcloseouts.com/images/Small/isbn157/1571457747-s.jpg

yodapoop
01-10-2007, 11:44 PM
BTW, I HAVE A NEW LOCAL.

yodapoop
01-10-2007, 11:45 PM
EVERY1 SHUT THE *********** UP ABOUT DUKE! THANK U! GREG POLUS, GO GET YOUR *********** CUT OFF AND JOIN THE WOMENS BASKETBALL TEAM. OH WAIT, UR NOT GOOD ENOUGHT TO PLAY FOR THEM EITHER. JUST GO MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE MENS LACROSSE TEAM. POLUS BLOWS! TECH SCHOOLS FART IN UR GENERAL DIRECTION, UR MOTHER IS A HAMPSTER AND UR FATHER SMELLS OF VILDER BERRIES. U R A WIPER OF OTHER PEOPLES BOTTOMS. GO *********** A GOAT!

:cry:
http://www.bookcloseouts.com/images/Small/isbn157/1571457747-s.jpg

I'll pray for your ****.

GB12
01-10-2007, 11:46 PM
EVERY1 SHUT THE *********** UP ABOUT DUKE! THANK U! GREG POLUS, GO GET YOUR *********** CUT OFF AND JOIN THE WOMENS BASKETBALL TEAM. OH WAIT, UR NOT GOOD ENOUGHT TO PLAY FOR THEM EITHER. JUST GO MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE MENS LACROSSE TEAM. POLUS BLOWS! TECH SCHOOLS FART IN UR GENERAL DIRECTION, UR MOTHER IS A HAMPSTER AND UR FATHER SMELLS OF VILDER BERRIES. U R A WIPER OF OTHER PEOPLES BOTTOMS. GO *********** A GOAT!

:cry:
http://www.bookcloseouts.com/images/Small/isbn157/1571457747-s.jpg

I'll pray for your ***********.

My what?

danman253
01-10-2007, 11:47 PM
Sweetness, close call vs. Iowa :wink:

yodapoop
01-10-2007, 11:47 PM
EVERY1 SHUT THE *********** UP ABOUT DUKE! THANK U! GREG POLUS, GO GET YOUR *********** CUT OFF AND JOIN THE WOMENS BASKETBALL TEAM. OH WAIT, UR NOT GOOD ENOUGHT TO PLAY FOR THEM EITHER. JUST GO MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE MENS LACROSSE TEAM. POLUS BLOWS! TECH SCHOOLS FART IN UR GENERAL DIRECTION, UR MOTHER IS A HAMPSTER AND UR FATHER SMELLS OF VILDER BERRIES. U R A WIPER OF OTHER PEOPLES BOTTOMS. GO *********** A GOAT!

:cry:
http://www.bookcloseouts.com/images/Small/isbn157/1571457747-s.jpg

I'll pray for your ***********.

My what?

Sex is not about tits and ass, not about sex and ****, and butthole pleasures, or **** stained balls.....

sweetness34
01-11-2007, 01:12 AM
Sweetness, close call vs. Iowa :wink:

A win's a win right now. Should've been an easier game than it was but right now we need W's.

sweetness34
01-11-2007, 01:18 AM
Whoo Hooo go Duke! :D

That's all I'll say (btw Illinois beat Iowa tonight, sure we only won by 4 but hey a win is a win, especially with the way we've been playing).

all i gotta say is look who duke lost to and look who illinios lost to :D

Ohio State, Maryland, Arizona, Michigan, and Xavier; 3 of which were on the road.

You've lost to Marquette, Virginia Tech, and Georgia Tech; hmm I'd say our losses are a little better than yours. 3 top 25 teams we've lost to; and the other 2 were at Michigan, a very tough place to play and at Xavier; a flat out bad game.

Oh, btw you lost to Va Tech at home my friend. :lol:

that's still 3 losses to 5. :lol:

and VT plays Duke really toigh every year, last year at home duke needed this to win... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuQ-dlhyfNc

I don't know what it is about VT they damn near beat duke every year.

And we played a tougher non conference then you. Do you believe you're rated where you're supposed to be tt, honestly tell me right now?

You guys are not a top 15 team, hell you're not a top 20 team. It's that simple.

And btw, only 2 of our losses have come with a full squad; btw our PG Chester Frazier is injured. That means Semrau, Randle, Smith, Carter, Pruitt, and now Frazier have all been injured and missed time (Pruitt was pulled early because of his hand a couple games).

NickBam
01-11-2007, 04:13 AM
greg paulus is a *********** joke and he single handedly pissed this game away for duke.

Duke is overrated.
Duke should have won this game by 10+ with all the turnover GT had. paulus pissed their opportunity away with all his stupid turnovers during their 12-3 run.
That's duke is overrated statement was really in depth. It showed you know exactly what your talking about.
They are definetly overrated. McRoberts has tons of talent but obviously doesnt have a single clue how to use it. Paulus is terrible. Scheyer will be good in time but is only a role player for now. I like Henderson a lot from what ive seen though hes a good player.

McRoberts is overrated. Kids so soft.

ncbigbody
01-11-2007, 04:16 AM
Kevin Durant and My boys are giving teams the business.

sweetness34
01-11-2007, 01:47 PM
greg paulus is a *********** joke and he single handedly pissed this game away for duke.

Duke is overrated.
Duke should have won this game by 10+ with all the turnover GT had. paulus pissed their opportunity away with all his stupid turnovers during their 12-3 run.
That's duke is overrated statement was really in depth. It showed you know exactly what your talking about.
They are definetly overrated. McRoberts has tons of talent but obviously doesnt have a single clue how to use it. Paulus is terrible. Scheyer will be good in time but is only a role player for now. I like Henderson a lot from what ive seen though hes a good player.

McRoberts is overrated. Kids so soft.

And so is Paulus, extremely overrated.

The only players that I like are Nelson and Scheyer right now. Henderson will be good down the road and that McClure kid is pretty good but like I said before, Duke is going to have a tough time in the ACC this season. They just don't have the talent or the experience this year. I've argued it on this topic and many of the Dookie fans on here didn't want to believe me. Well 0-2 should be a telling sign that this team is not what it has been in the past. I'm calling for a #4 or lower finish in the ACC this season.

yodapoop
01-11-2007, 04:46 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

Boston
01-11-2007, 05:04 PM
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/goodmanonfox/2007/01/09/Badgers_Still_Not_Elite

That's taking nothing away from Bo Ryan's club. The Badgers are better than the team that was drilled by Arizona in the first round of the NCAA tournament last March. But are they that much better?

Has Alando Tucker's supporting cast improved all that much? Brian Butch is still inconsistent. Michael Flowers is still a good role guy. Sure, they added a couple of solid freshman guards in Jason Bohannon and Trevon Hughes, but is it enough to warrant a No. 4 ranking?

The bottom line is that Wisconsin will probably be the same team in six weeks when the two teams square off again while Ohio State will likely make major strides because of their youth and the fact that Greg Oden will be 100 percent by then.

Thad Matta will have fully integrated Oden into the offense by the time the Big Ten's top teams meet again - on Feb. 25 in Columbus.

Even with a sub-par game from the 7-foot freshman and fellow talented frosh Daequan Cook, the Buckeyes were a Jamar Butler 3-pointer away from forcing another five minutes with the Badgers.

The Badgers have knocked off Florida State and Pittsburgh at home and a struggling Marquette team on the road. Do we forget that this was a team that lost to Missouri Valley Conference's Missouri State on a neutral floor?

This team is not North Carolina. It's not Florida or UCLA. It's not even Ohio State. At least not six weeks from now.

God. Wisconsin gets NO respect. And **** him.

yodapoop
01-11-2007, 05:09 PM
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/goodmanonfox/2007/01/09/Badgers_Still_Not_Elite

That's taking nothing away from Bo Ryan's club. The Badgers are better than the team that was drilled by Arizona in the first round of the NCAA tournament last March. But are they that much better?

Has Alando Tucker's supporting cast improved all that much? Brian Butch is still inconsistent. Michael Flowers is still a good role guy. Sure, they added a couple of solid freshman guards in Jason Bohannon and Trevon Hughes, but is it enough to warrant a No. 4 ranking?

The bottom line is that Wisconsin will probably be the same team in six weeks when the two teams square off again while Ohio State will likely make major strides because of their youth and the fact that Greg Oden will be 100 percent by then.

Thad Matta will have fully integrated Oden into the offense by the time the Big Ten's top teams meet again - on Feb. 25 in Columbus.

Even with a sub-par game from the 7-foot freshman and fellow talented frosh Daequan Cook, the Buckeyes were a Jamar Butler 3-pointer away from forcing another five minutes with the Badgers.

The Badgers have knocked off Florida State and Pittsburgh at home and a struggling Marquette team on the road. Do we forget that this was a team that lost to Missouri Valley Conference's Missouri State on a neutral floor?

This team is not North Carolina. It's not Florida or UCLA. It's not even Ohio State. At least not six weeks from now.

God. Wisconsin gets NO respect. And *********** him.

God. I hate this bull ****. Wisconsin gets no respect cuz they play in the little midwest. ESPN, FOX, ETC. has their eyes in the east coast and Duke, it pisses me off. IDK I watch debate shows, but this is bull.

NDfootball
01-11-2007, 05:10 PM
Hofstra @. Drexel tonight GO DUTCH!!

sik wit it
01-11-2007, 05:27 PM
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/goodmanonfox/2007/01/09/Badgers_Still_Not_Elite

That's taking nothing away from Bo Ryan's club. The Badgers are better than the team that was drilled by Arizona in the first round of the NCAA tournament last March. But are they that much better?

Has Alando Tucker's supporting cast improved all that much? Brian Butch is still inconsistent. Michael Flowers is still a good role guy. Sure, they added a couple of solid freshman guards in Jason Bohannon and Trevon Hughes, but is it enough to warrant a No. 4 ranking?

The bottom line is that Wisconsin will probably be the same team in six weeks when the two teams square off again while Ohio State will likely make major strides because of their youth and the fact that Greg Oden will be 100 percent by then.

Thad Matta will have fully integrated Oden into the offense by the time the Big Ten's top teams meet again - on Feb. 25 in Columbus.

Even with a sub-par game from the 7-foot freshman and fellow talented frosh Daequan Cook, the Buckeyes were a Jamar Butler 3-pointer away from forcing another five minutes with the Badgers.

The Badgers have knocked off Florida State and Pittsburgh at home and a struggling Marquette team on the road. Do we forget that this was a team that lost to Missouri Valley Conference's Missouri State on a neutral floor?

This team is not North Carolina. It's not Florida or UCLA. It's not even Ohio State. At least not six weeks from now.

God. Wisconsin gets NO respect. And *********** him.
don't worry about it. just let the haters hate. Badgers are a national contender this year and they aren't a flashy team so people in the media will bash them. They are the most underrated program in the nation and so is Bo Ryan. I hope the badgers keep getting the negative media attention and go in the tournament with a chip on their shoulder. Also I hope they stay at this ranking range because they'll be a #1 seed, yet they wont have a target on their back for being the number one team in the nation.

NickBam
01-11-2007, 11:41 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

I like Duke. McRoberts is overhyped and overrated. He's soft and won't translate to what draft analysts think he'll become in the NBA (a Chris Webber type). I love Jon Scheyer, saw him play twice last year in the Illinois state playoffs and he's going to be very, very good. Same with Henderson. The hype train that followed McRoberts and Paulus into Duke got out of control and neither has same to have improved on their game much at all this season, especially Paulus.

Boston
01-13-2007, 11:03 AM
OSU vs. Tennessee

Who ya got?

yodapoop
01-13-2007, 11:35 AM
OSU vs. Tennessee

Who ya got?

Bruce Pearl!!!!!!!!

BTW, who did Wisconsin lose to?

Boston
01-13-2007, 11:37 AM
OSU vs. Tennessee

Who ya got?

Bruce Pearl!!!!!!!!

BTW, who did Wisconsin lose to?

Nobody... literally... :(

Missouri St. :(

yodapoop
01-13-2007, 11:40 AM
OSU vs. Tennessee

Who ya got?

Bruce Pearl!!!!!!!!

BTW, who did Wisconsin lose to?

Nobody... literally... :(

Missouri St.

:lol: Thats who I thought and u guys want to be #1 right now when UNC's loss is a great team. However, I know that was an off game. Wisconsin will get their respect, but every1 will keep bringing that up.

01-13-2007, 12:03 PM
Rod Wilmont is carrying IU on his back right now.

sik wit it
01-13-2007, 12:41 PM
OSU vs. Tennessee

Who ya got?

Bruce Pearl!!!!!!!!

BTW, who did Wisconsin lose to?

Nobody... literally... :(

Missouri St.

:lol: Thats who I thought and u guys want to be #1 right now when UNC's loss is a great team. However, I know that was an off game. Wisconsin will get their respect, but every1 will keep bringing that up.

I don't want the badgers as #1, one less thing to worry about and they wont have that target on their back.

GB12
01-13-2007, 01:22 PM
Marquette won now I get the Wisconsin game, and then later UWM is actually on TV. I'm thinking about watching but they suck so much this year.

NickBam
01-13-2007, 02:05 PM
Oh, thank the good lord for Ron Lewis.

thetedginnshow
01-13-2007, 02:07 PM
Holy crap what a game. I was freaking out. Anyone know how many blocks Oden had?

01-13-2007, 02:22 PM
IU won a Big Ten road game. :shock:

NickBam
01-13-2007, 02:26 PM
IU won a Big Ten road game. :shock:

I'd hope they could beat Penn State.

WildDude
01-13-2007, 02:32 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

I like Duke. McRoberts is overhyped and overrated. He's soft and won't translate to what draft analysts think he'll become in the NBA (a Chris Webber type). I love Jon Scheyer, saw him play twice last year in the Illinois state playoffs and he's going to be very, very good. Same with Henderson. The hype train that followed McRoberts and Paulus into Duke got out of control and neither has same to have improved on their game much at all this season, especially Paulus.

I honestly dont think anyone on duke will ever amount to anything just look at history i think the only one on the team who has a decent chance at becoming something is Brian Zoubek based on size only and once he bulks up he'll be something special hes a better passer than paulus, however mike K has a rep of making the big men wussies-Christian Lambeer, Danny Ferry, and so on... Demarcus has alot of talent but mike K dosent let him score as much as he did JJ reddick demarcus is the defination of a scorer as he can score any way he can but mike k dosent let him

DUKE sucks cause of Mike K not because of the talent they have- how many National championships does mike K have- how many final 4s has he lost?

'cuse-213
01-13-2007, 02:49 PM
syracuse is rolling. 8)

FlutiesDropKick
01-13-2007, 02:57 PM
very good Kansas / Iowa State game, anyone else watchig?

sik wit it
01-13-2007, 03:05 PM
badgers are in a tight one, tucker is looking to take over

Boston
01-13-2007, 03:11 PM
badgers are in a tight one, tucker is looking to take over

God. Northwestern is such a boring team to watch.

sik wit it
01-13-2007, 03:12 PM
badgers are in a tight one, tucker is looking to take over

God. Northwestern is such a boring team to watch.
but a very very good team at home.

sweetness34
01-13-2007, 03:12 PM
very good Kansas / Iowa State game, anyone else watchig?

Hell yes, OT baby! That kid Dunson who hit the 3 in the last minute for Iowa State went to school with me, that was pretty sweet to see.

sik wit it
01-13-2007, 03:21 PM
JUST GIVE UP NORTHWESTERN

sweetness34
01-13-2007, 03:25 PM
JUST GIVE UP NORTHWESTERN

Northwestern is god awful. They almost lost to a Divsion III team (Wheaton College).

Wisky should be beating the tar of of them.

Btw Taylor is the reason Iowa State might lose this game. He takes terrible shots and he's a ball hog.

sik wit it
01-13-2007, 03:30 PM
JUST GIVE UP NORTHWESTERN

Northwestern is god awful. They almost lost to a Divsion III team (Wheaton College).

Wisky should be beating the tar of of them.

Btw Taylor is the reason Iowa State might lose this game. He takes terrible shots and he's a ball hog.
but at home the badgers always struggle against them. There was a stat that at home they've beaten a ranked team each of the last 8 years. A trap game that the badgers survived but any conference game in the big 11 can be tough. Marcus Landry hopefully will make a name for himself come tournament time.

GB12
01-13-2007, 03:30 PM
What an ugly game that was.

sik wit it
01-13-2007, 03:31 PM
What an ugly game that was.
wins a win

GB12
01-13-2007, 03:32 PM
What an ugly game that was.
wins a win
I know but that win could have easily been a loss.

GB12
01-13-2007, 03:33 PM
:shock: nice shot USC.

TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 04:00 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

I like Duke. McRoberts is overhyped and overrated. He's soft and won't translate to what draft analysts think he'll become in the NBA (a Chris Webber type). I love Jon Scheyer, saw him play twice last year in the Illinois state playoffs and he's going to be very, very good. Same with :lol: Henderson. The hype train that followed McRoberts and Paulus into Duke got out of control and neither has same to have improved on their game much at all this season, especially Paulus.

I honestly dont think anyone on duke will ever amount to anything just look at history i think the only one on the team who has a decent chance at becoming something is Brian Zoubek based on size only and once he bulks up he'll be something special hes a better passer than paulus, however mike K has a rep of making the big men wussies-Christian Lambeer, Danny Ferry, and so on... Demarcus has alot of talent but mike K dosent let him score as much as he did JJ reddick demarcus is the defination of a scorer as he can score any way he can but mike k dosent let him

DUKE sucks cause of Mike K not because of the talent they have- how many National championships does mike K have- how many final 4s has he lost?
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TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 04:44 PM
Sweetness i told you VT is good. beat duke and UNC :shock:

ImBrotherCain
01-13-2007, 04:48 PM
Sweetness i told you VT is good. beat duke and UNC :shock:



YEA BABY!!!!! VT WOOOOOOOOO

sik wit it
01-13-2007, 05:00 PM
Jungle Karma happens once again, good win for VT.

WildDude
01-13-2007, 05:12 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

I like Duke. McRoberts is overhyped and overrated. He's soft and won't translate to what draft analysts think he'll become in the NBA (a Chris Webber type). I love Jon Scheyer, saw him play twice last year in the Illinois state playoffs and he's going to be very, very good. Same with :lol: Henderson. The hype train that followed McRoberts and Paulus into Duke got out of control and neither has same to have improved on their game much at all this season, especially Paulus.

I honestly dont think anyone on duke will ever amount to anything just look at history i think the only one on the team who has a decent chance at becoming something is Brian Zoubek based on size only and once he bulks up he'll be something special hes a better passer than paulus, however mike K has a rep of making the big men wussies-Christian Lambeer, Danny Ferry, and so on... Demarcus has alot of talent but mike K dosent let him score as much as he did JJ reddick demarcus is the defination of a scorer as he can score any way he can but mike k dosent let him

DUKE sucks cause of Mike K not because of the talent they have- how many National championships does mike K have- how many final 4s has he lost?
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just answer my question- they got like a whole roster of blue chippers and how many championships have they won and how many final 4s have they blown? im telling you if Bobby Knight was on that team they'd have won maybe 8 championships

take last year for example he told them to just give the ball to JJ and let him score 30 every night but hes too stupid to realize when shelden is the guy who scores 30 they win not when jj does

P-L
01-13-2007, 05:16 PM
very good Kansas / Iowa State game, anyone else watchig?

Hell yes, OT baby! That kid Dunson who hit the 3 in the last minute for Iowa State went to school with me, that was pretty sweet to see.

It wouldn't even have gone to OT if Bill Self wasn't a moron.

danman253
01-13-2007, 05:16 PM
WOw, VT just bitchslapped UNC :shock:

WildDude
01-13-2007, 05:19 PM
well that just proves to you that even with all those blue chippers if they aint coached right they wont win every game... not saying roy williams is a bad coach just saying that he doent have to take all the blue chippers in the world cause u cant teach hustle and overacheivers- wit the exception of wes miller

ncbigbody
01-13-2007, 05:20 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

I like Duke. McRoberts is overhyped and overrated. He's soft and won't translate to what draft analysts think he'll become in the NBA (a Chris Webber type). I love Jon Scheyer, saw him play twice last year in the Illinois state playoffs and he's going to be very, very good. Same with :lol: Henderson. The hype train that followed McRoberts and Paulus into Duke got out of control and neither has same to have improved on their game much at all this season, especially Paulus.

I honestly dont think anyone on duke will ever amount to anything just look at history i think the only one on the team who has a decent chance at becoming something is Brian Zoubek based on size only and once he bulks up he'll be something special hes a better passer than paulus, however mike K has a rep of making the big men wussies-Christian Lambeer, Danny Ferry, and so on... Demarcus has alot of talent but mike K dosent let him score as much as he did JJ reddick demarcus is the defination of a scorer as he can score any way he can but mike k dosent let him

DUKE sucks cause of Mike K not because of the talent they have- how many National championships does mike K have- how many final 4s has he lost?
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just answer my question- they got like a whole roster of blue chippers and how many championships have they won and how many final 4s have they blown? im telling you if Bobby Knight was on that team they'd have won maybe 8 championships

take last year for example he told them to just give the ball to JJ and let him score 30 every night but hes too stupid to realize when shelden is the guy who scores 30 they win not when jj does

Who brings in those blue chippers, who makes it to those final fours? Do you realize how hard it is to win a national championship. You are insulting maybe the greatest college basketball coach of all time.

TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 05:57 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

I like Duke. McRoberts is overhyped and overrated. He's soft and won't translate to what draft analysts think he'll become in the NBA (a Chris Webber type). I love Jon Scheyer, saw him play twice last year in the Illinois state playoffs and he's going to be very, very good. Same with :lol: Henderson. The hype train that followed McRoberts and Paulus into Duke got out of control and neither has same to have improved on their game much at all this season, especially Paulus.

I honestly dont think anyone on duke will ever amount to anything just look at history i think the only one on the team who has a decent chance at becoming something is Brian Zoubek based on size only and once he bulks up he'll be something special hes a better passer than paulus, however mike K has a rep of making the big men wussies-Christian Lambeer, Danny Ferry, and so on... Demarcus has alot of talent but mike K dosent let him score as much as he did JJ reddick demarcus is the defination of a scorer as he can score any way he can but mike k dosent let him

DUKE sucks cause of Mike K not because of the talent they have- how many National championships does mike K have- how many final 4s has he lost?
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just answer my question- they got like a whole roster of blue chippers and how many championships have they won and how many final 4s have they blown? im telling you if Bobby Knight was on that team they'd have won maybe 8 championships

take last year for example he told them to just give the ball to JJ and let him score 30 every night but hes too stupid to realize when shelden is the guy who scores 30 they win not when jj does

Coach K is probably the best coach in the country, and your trying to say he sucks. That is absurd. Some consider Coach K's (9 I think)consecutive sweet 16 appearances to be an equal feat to wooden's streak of championships ( not me). When you get deep into the tourney every year it is not easy to beat teams year in and year out. Look at Kansas they have lost in the first round two years in a row. Does Self suck too?

BTW you can't exactly " blow a final four". Getting to the final four itself is a major accomplishment.

If they didn't win when JJ scored 30+, how do you explain an early season W over #2 Texas last year when JJ dropped 41? Over UNC? and so on. He was the best player in the country last year for a reason, because Coach K utilized him perfectly, and the entire team revolved around him and sheldon.

The only problem that coach K has had is no depth Throughout many of his deep tourney runs. Usually Duke has just as quality of players as anyone else in the country, but they hardly ever have any solid depth behind them. When it comes to tourney time they are running on empty. Look at JJ last year, he played damn near 40 minutes a game last year and when it came March his legs were gone, but he was the only who gave Duke the possibility to win the entire season. so what was he going to do? sit him and lose? If he sat him no one else could step up in his place.

You may be right in saying that Coach K has not created the maximum amount of national titles he POSSIBLY could have , but it's not like he's losing agianst mid-majors when the tourney time comes or losing without going deep into the big dance. Name me one other coach that has been able to keep up with his dominance in recent times. The only coaches even in the same category as him would have to be Roy williams or Jim calhounIMO. Do you think it is a coincidence these guys have been able to keep dominating programs with them throughout the years? No, it is their recruiting abilities that helps them surround themselves with players capable of dominating college basketball for years. Look at Roy williams. What was UNC before he came there from Kansas? nothing.College coaching is much more than simply coaching, and Coach K is probably one of the best recruiters in the country as well. Do you think duke recruits kids from all around the country for no reason? Look at demarcus Nelson, he came all the way from California where he was Mr. basketball or Kyle sigler who is comming all the way from Oregon. The bottem line is that Mike has done a brilliant job at Duke since learning from Bob at westpoint, and to question his abilities and acomplishments is simply stupid. Do you really think he was promoted to be the coach of the National team for no reason?
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WildDude
01-13-2007, 06:18 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

I like Duke. McRoberts is overhyped and overrated. He's soft and won't translate to what draft analysts think he'll become in the NBA (a Chris Webber type). I love Jon Scheyer, saw him play twice last year in the Illinois state playoffs and he's going to be very, very good. Same with :lol: Henderson. The hype train that followed McRoberts and Paulus into Duke got out of control and neither has same to have improved on their game much at all this season, especially Paulus.

I honestly dont think anyone on duke will ever amount to anything just look at history i think the only one on the team who has a decent chance at becoming something is Brian Zoubek based on size only and once he bulks up he'll be something special hes a better passer than paulus, however mike K has a rep of making the big men wussies-Christian Lambeer, Danny Ferry, and so on... Demarcus has alot of talent but mike K dosent let him score as much as he did JJ reddick demarcus is the defination of a scorer as he can score any way he can but mike k dosent let him

DUKE sucks cause of Mike K not because of the talent they have- how many National championships does mike K have- how many final 4s has he lost?
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just answer my question- they got like a whole roster of blue chippers and how many championships have they won and how many final 4s have they blown? im telling you if Bobby Knight was on that team they'd have won maybe 8 championships

take last year for example he told them to just give the ball to JJ and let him score 30 every night but hes too stupid to realize when shelden is the guy who scores 30 they win not when jj does

Coach K is probably the best coach in the country, and your trying to say he sucks. That is absurd. Some consider Coach K's (9 I think)consecutive sweet 16 appearances to be an equal feat to wooden's streak of championships ( not me). When you get deep into the tourney every year it is not easy to beat teams year in and year out. Look at Kansas they have lost in the first round two years in a row. Does Self suck too?

BTW you can't exactly " blow a final four". Getting to the final four itself is a major accomplishment.

If they didn't win when JJ scored 30+, how do you explain an early season W over #2 Texas last year when JJ dropped 41? Over UNC? and so on. He was the best player in the country last year for a reason, because Coach K utilized him perfectly, and the entire team revolved around him and sheldon.

The only problem that coach K has had is no depth Throughout many of his deep tourney runs. Usually Duke has just as quality of players as anyone else in the country, but they hardly ever have any solid depth behind them. When it comes to tourney time they are running on empty. Look at JJ last year, he played damn near 40 minutes a game last year and when it came March his legs were gone, but he was the only who gave Duke the possibility to win the entire season. so what was he going to do? sit him and lose? If he sat him no one else could step up in his place.

You may be right in saying that Coach K has not created the maximum amount of national titles he POSSIBLY could have , but it's not like he's losing agianst mid-majors when the tourney time comes or losing without going deep into the big dance. Name me one other coach that has been able to keep up with his dominance in recent times. The only coaches even in the same category as him would have to be Roy williams or Jim calhounIMO. Do you think it is a coincidence these guys have been able to keep dominating programs with them throughout the years? No, it is their recruiting abilities that helps them surround themselves with players capable of dominating college basketball for years. Look at Roy williams. What was UNC before he came there from Kansas? nothing.College coaching is much more than simply coaching, and Coach K is probably one of the best recruiters in the country as well. Do you think duke recruits kids from all around the country for no reason? Look at demarcus Nelson, he came all the way from California where he was Mr. basketball or Kyle sigler who is comming all the way from Oregon. The bottem line is that Mike has done a brilliant job at Duke since learning from Bob at westpoint, and to question his abilities and acomplishments is simply stupid. Do you really think he was promoted to be the coach of the National team for no reason?
:roll:

Well all im saying is that year in and year out Duke has the most talent on their team with the exception of uconn who Caluhon built by himself because before him they were nothing... he i consider a great coach cause he maxides the talent of his players with the exception of last year

I have respect for the values he puts in the players and helps them get jobs afterwards and i respect the guy in that way im just saying in terms of "big game" situations he just cant win it there... with a team like duke it shouldnt even be a big accomplishment making it into the final 4 and i dont consider 9 straight sweet 16s that big of a deal compared to wooden

the only reason he has no depth is because he dosent take the time to develop anyone else cause when they were up by 30 points JJ Reddick was still shooting the rock trying to compete with Morrison

sik wit it
01-13-2007, 06:55 PM
well that just proves to you that even with all those blue chippers if they aint coached right they wont win every game... not saying roy williams is a bad coach just saying that he doent have to take all the blue chippers in the world cause u cant teach hustle and overacheivers- wit the exception of wes miller
no its that he didn't get the jungle karma

ncbigbody
01-13-2007, 06:58 PM
Well all im saying is that year in and year out Duke has the most talent on their team with the exception of uconn who Caluhon built by himself because before him they were nothing... he i consider a great coach cause he maxides the talent of his players with the exception of last year

I have respect for the values he puts in the players and helps them get jobs afterwards and i respect the guy in that way im just saying in terms of "big game" situations he just cant win it there... with a team like duke it shouldnt even be a big accomplishment making it into the final 4 and i dont consider 9 straight sweet 16s that big of a deal compared to wooden

the only reason he has no depth is because he dosent take the time to develop anyone else cause when they were up by 30 points JJ Reddick was still shooting the rock trying to compete with Morrison

Are you kidding me? Just because Duke may be one of the most talented teams every year doesnt mean they should make it to the final four automatically. You still have to win 4 consecutive games against teams with good talent to even get there. It is a great accomplishment to make the final 4. I can honestly say, you dont know the game of college basketball well enough to be debating about it.

SeanTaylorRIP
01-13-2007, 08:02 PM
VaTech woot woot also gotta give props to Maryland although Clemson was overrated.

ncbigbody
01-13-2007, 08:05 PM
VaTech woot woot also gotta give props to Maryland although Clemson was overrated.

Cant say they were really overated when they werent ranked that high and were undefeated, good win for the terps.

TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 08:19 PM
Every1 shut up about Duke. Whenever a team loses 3 of your best players and u start 3 freshman unless they are special, u are going to suck. Duke is no different. We all saw Duke sucking when Williams and Reddick had to go, so shut ur pie holes. Of course, we are overrated, but we are always overrated to some people.

I like Duke. McRoberts is overhyped and overrated. He's soft and won't translate to what draft analysts think he'll become in the NBA (a Chris Webber type). I love Jon Scheyer, saw him play twice last year in the Illinois state playoffs and he's going to be very, very good. Same with :lol: Henderson. The hype train that followed McRoberts and Paulus into Duke got out of control and neither has same to have improved on their game much at all this season, especially Paulus.

I honestly dont think anyone on duke will ever amount to anything just look at history i think the only one on the team who has a decent chance at becoming something is Brian Zoubek based on size only and once he bulks up he'll be something special hes a better passer than paulus, however mike K has a rep of making the big men wussies-Christian Lambeer, Danny Ferry, and so on... Demarcus has alot of talent but mike K dosent let him score as much as he did JJ reddick demarcus is the defination of a scorer as he can score any way he can but mike k dosent let him

DUKE sucks cause of Mike K not because of the talent they have- how many National championships does mike K have- how many final 4s has he lost?
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just answer my question- they got like a whole roster of blue chippers and how many championships have they won and how many final 4s have they blown? im telling you if Bobby Knight was on that team they'd have won maybe 8 championships

take last year for example he told them to just give the ball to JJ and let him score 30 every night but hes too stupid to realize when shelden is the guy who scores 30 they win not when jj does

Coach K is probably the best coach in the country, and your trying to say he sucks. That is absurd. Some consider Coach K's (9 I think)consecutive sweet 16 appearances to be an equal feat to wooden's streak of championships ( not me). When you get deep into the tourney every year it is not easy to beat teams year in and year out. Look at Kansas they have lost in the first round two years in a row. Does Self suck too?

BTW you can't exactly " blow a final four". Getting to the final four itself is a major accomplishment.

If they didn't win when JJ scored 30+, how do you explain an early season W over #2 Texas last year when JJ dropped 41? Over UNC? and so on. He was the best player in the country last year for a reason, because Coach K utilized him perfectly, and the entire team revolved around him and sheldon.

The only problem that coach K has had is no depth Throughout many of his deep tourney runs. Usually Duke has just as quality of players as anyone else in the country, but they hardly ever have any solid depth behind them. When it comes to tourney time they are running on empty. Look at JJ last year, he played damn near 40 minutes a game last year and when it came March his legs were gone, but he was the only who gave Duke the possibility to win the entire season. so what was he going to do? sit him and lose? If he sat him no one else could step up in his place.

You may be right in saying that Coach K has not created the maximum amount of national titles he POSSIBLY could have , but it's not like he's losing agianst mid-majors when the tourney time comes or losing without going deep into the big dance. Name me one other coach that has been able to keep up with his dominance in recent times. The only coaches even in the same category as him would have to be Roy williams or Jim calhounIMO. Do you think it is a coincidence these guys have been able to keep dominating programs with them throughout the years? No, it is their recruiting abilities that helps them surround themselves with players capable of dominating college basketball for years. Look at Roy williams. What was UNC before he came there from Kansas? nothing.College coaching is much more than simply coaching, and Coach K is probably one of the best recruiters in the country as well. Do you think duke recruits kids from all around the country for no reason? Look at demarcus Nelson, he came all the way from California where he was Mr. basketball or Kyle sigler who is comming all the way from Oregon. The bottem line is that Mike has done a brilliant job at Duke since learning from Bob at westpoint, and to question his abilities and acomplishments is simply stupid. Do you really think he was promoted to be the coach of the National team for no reason?
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Well all im saying is that year in and year out Duke has the most talent on their team with the exception of uconn who Caluhon built by himself because before him they were nothing... he i consider a great coach cause he maxides the talent of his players with the exception of last year

I have respect for the values he puts in the players and helps them get jobs afterwards and i respect the guy in that way im just saying in terms of "big game" situations he just cant win it there... with a team like duke it shouldnt even be a big accomplishment making it into the final 4 and i dont consider 9 straight sweet 16s that big of a deal compared to wooden

the only reason he has no depth is because he dosent take the time to develop anyone else cause when they were up by 30 points JJ Reddick was still shooting the rock trying to compete with Morrison

Duke was nothing before coach K came over from army. He has won the national title THREE times, He had a streak of FIVE straight final fours, ( 9 total),With 68 career wins in the NCAA tournament, Mike Krzyzewski is the winningest coach in the history of the NCAA tornament with 68 wins, ( yeah he chokes in the tourney!!!!!) In the best confrence in college basketball he has won 11 regular season titles, ten ACC tournament titles, and 12 national coach of the year awards. Also, this is his all time record at DUKE 645-172 (.790). How can you even question anything this guy has accomplished? He knows more about basketball that you and I could ever fathom.

TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 08:25 PM
VaTech woot woot also gotta give props to Maryland although Clemson was overrated.

Cant say they were really overated when they werent ranked that high and were undefeated, good win for the terps.
no kidding.

sweetness34
01-13-2007, 08:27 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

01-13-2007, 08:32 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 08:33 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

A thank you.

sweetness34
01-13-2007, 09:39 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

It's the fact that JJ Redick choked big time in the Tourney last year.

This year he just doesn't have the talent. You can only do so much as a coach.

TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 10:48 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?

01-13-2007, 10:49 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?

I meant the last two losses.

yo123
01-13-2007, 10:50 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to come

WildDude
01-13-2007, 10:50 PM
yah good points there and i know he will one day be the all times winningest coach of all time almost guaranteed but i just feel like he underachieves thats all and if your a team like duke getting to the final 4 should be expected but if its a team like george mason its the greatest feeling ever because of who you are

01-13-2007, 10:50 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to come

I highly doubt that.

WildDude
01-13-2007, 10:55 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to come

I highly doubt that.

not happening but it really should espically with their youth and two losses in a row but hey theyre DUKE

yo123
01-13-2007, 10:58 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to come

I highly doubt that.


quote me on it. it'll happen before the end of the season. I'd explain why but ive already done it plenty in this thread.

WildDude
01-13-2007, 10:59 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to come

I highly doubt that.


quote me on it. it'll happen before the end of the season. I'd explain why but ive already done it plenty in this thread.

we can only hope

sweetness34
01-13-2007, 11:07 PM
Again they should not have been in the top 20 to begin this season, period. I think it'll take at least 3 straight losses for them to get booted from the top 25, and that's just not going to happen.

Rankings are dumb anyway, especially this season. Teams about 15-40 are very close.

01-13-2007, 11:08 PM
New rankings come out on Monday right? The Hoosiers should be getting some more votes.

ncbigbody
01-13-2007, 11:24 PM
Dont sleep on Kevin Durant and Texas, slaughtering the Big 12 right now. Play Oklahoma St. on espn2 tuesday night.

TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 11:27 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to comeNope.

Gribble
01-13-2007, 11:41 PM
Any respect for NMSU? 14-3 with 13 game winning streak.

yo123
01-13-2007, 11:42 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to comeNope.


says the duke fan.

GB12
01-13-2007, 11:44 PM
Any respect for NMSU? 14-3 with 13 game winning streak.

Not yet. If they beat Nevada then they will.

01-13-2007, 11:44 PM
Any respect for NMSU? 14-3 with 13 game winning streak.

Beating powerhouses like Hawaii, Chicago State and Arkansas Pine Bluff.

WildDude
01-13-2007, 11:44 PM
Any respect for NMSU? 14-3 with 13 game winning streak.

well they did get herb pope so theyre obviously doing something right

TitleTown088
01-13-2007, 11:47 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to comeNope.


says the duke fan.

eh, your a nonduke fan and you said they will drop outta the top 25, so is me saying they won't really any different than you saying they will? :-k

WildDude
01-13-2007, 11:50 PM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to comeNope.


says the duke fan.

eh, your a nonduke fan and you said they will drop outta the top 25, so is me saying they won't really any different than you saying they will? :-k

ah u dukies

dcrls
01-14-2007, 12:02 AM
clemson finally lost

TitleTown088
01-14-2007, 12:05 AM
Um yea, Coach K is an incredible coach, end of discussion.

That's what happens when you learn under The General. :wink:

But, yeah, Coach K is one of, if not the, best coach in the NCAA right now. Anyone who thinks that Duke's recent problems are his fault is not thinking straight.

what problems? when is the last time duke dropped outta the top 25?


its soon to comeNope.


says the duke fan.

eh, your a nonduke fan and you said they will drop outta the top 25, so is me saying they won't really any different than you saying they will? :-k

ah u dukies

well atleased i don't say blasphemy like, " coach K is the reason duke sucks" :wink:

ncbigbody
01-14-2007, 12:07 AM
Duke wont drop out of the top 25, period.

yodapoop
01-14-2007, 11:57 AM
I saw some1 say Coach K was horrible. IMO, this Duke team is terrible and with an average coach, not only is this team out of the top 25, I think they are under 500. So I think Coach K is incredible.

NYmoney
01-14-2007, 08:23 PM
Hoosiers getting another victory was very big. very promising development this season.

WildDude
01-14-2007, 09:05 PM
hey im the biggest duke hater u'll find and ill say anything

sik wit it
01-15-2007, 04:28 PM
woot, badgers move up in the rankings!

01-15-2007, 04:30 PM
Hoosiers got 10 votes. Not bad.

HTTank22
01-15-2007, 05:02 PM
Marquette plays louisville tonight at freedom hall... any predictions?

sik wit it
01-15-2007, 05:03 PM
Marquette plays louisville tonight at freedom hall... any predictions?
marquette, they are gettin their swagger back

HTTank22
01-15-2007, 05:12 PM
Marquette plays louisville tonight at freedom hall... any predictions?
marquette, they are gettin their swagger back
Yeah I'm pumped for the game... im goin... both teams are going with 4 guards

ncbigbody
01-15-2007, 05:15 PM
Kevin Durant and the Horns' movin up to 21 in the AP polls, watch out.

sik wit it
01-15-2007, 05:23 PM
Marquette plays louisville tonight at freedom hall... any predictions?
marquette, they are gettin their swagger back
Yeah I'm pumped for the game... im goin... both teams are going with 4 guards
have fun

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 06:21 PM
i'm watching Louisville/Marquette and i was just wondering....what ever happened to Juan Palacios?

WildDude
01-15-2007, 06:49 PM
i'm watching Louisville/Marquette and i was just wondering....what ever happened to Juan Palacios?

hes probally injured cause hes still on the team

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 06:55 PM
i'm watching Louisville/Marquette and i was just wondering....what ever happened to Juan Palacios?

hes probally injured cause hes still on the team

yeah but he's only missed one game and his minutes were decreasing steadily before that. Did he just fall out of favor?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=22410

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 07:20 PM
he's in the game now....nevermind

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 07:43 PM
David Padgent may be the most clumsy big man ever....looks like me out there

GB12
01-15-2007, 08:21 PM
Anyone else think Florida is undeserving of the #1 spot?

HTTank22
01-15-2007, 08:32 PM
i'm watching Louisville/Marquette and i was just wondering....what ever happened to Juan Palacios?

hes probally injured cause hes still on the team

yeah but he's only missed one game and his minutes were decreasing steadily before that. Did he just fall out of favor?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=22410
He wasn;t playing very well and then he injured his neck, then his wrist, he is just now getting beck into the lineup... played ok tonight

NickBam
01-15-2007, 09:04 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

ncbigbody
01-15-2007, 09:06 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

Kevin Durant :lol:

01-15-2007, 09:10 PM
Anyone else think Florida is undeserving of the #1 spot?

Yes. Wisconsin is the best team in the NCAA.

GB12
01-15-2007, 09:12 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

I have to go with Alando, but he is second.

01-15-2007, 09:15 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

DJ White baby.

WildDude
01-15-2007, 09:18 PM
David Padgent may be the most clumsy big man ever....looks like me out there

i really do not like padgett he should have stayed at kansas he was doing just fine there he just has messed up knees and stuff hes not goin to the NBA

sik wit it
01-15-2007, 09:54 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

I have to go with Alando, but he is second.
Tucker is simply amazing. His circus shots own anybody.

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 10:00 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

check the sig, Acie Law baby, don't mess with that

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 10:02 PM
Very, very good Kansas/Missouri game. STarted out all kinds of ugly but getting to be a very solid game now. Big 12 seems to have the bext basketball in the country this year IMO. Not exactly SEC football versus everyone else but i feel the conference to be the best, close to ACC with PAC 10 being solid this year for sure.

WildDude
01-15-2007, 10:03 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

check the sig, Acie Law baby, don't mess with that

MUSTAFA SHAKUR is better and hes coming alive this year

GB12
01-15-2007, 10:04 PM
Very, very good Kansas/Missouri game. STarted out all kinds of ugly but getting to be a very solid game now. Big 12 seems to have the bext basketball in the country this year IMO. Not exactly SEC football versus everyone else but i feel the conference to be the best, close to ACC with PAC 10 being solid this year for sure.
Looks like Kansas has it.

WildDude
01-15-2007, 10:05 PM
Very, very good Kansas/Missouri game. STarted out all kinds of ugly but getting to be a very solid game now. Big 12 seems to have the bext basketball in the country this year IMO. Not exactly SEC football versus everyone else but i feel the conference to be the best, close to ACC with PAC 10 being solid this year for sure.
Looks like Kansas has it.

no way! what a terrible play and btw sherron collins is looking amazing today

GB12
01-15-2007, 10:06 PM
Very, very good Kansas/Missouri game. STarted out all kinds of ugly but getting to be a very solid game now. Big 12 seems to have the bext basketball in the country this year IMO. Not exactly SEC football versus everyone else but i feel the conference to be the best, close to ACC with PAC 10 being solid this year for sure.
Looks like Kansas has it.

no way! what a terrible play and btw sherron collins is looking amazing today

I spoke too soon. Lets see this go to OT.

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 10:06 PM
Very, very good Kansas/Missouri game. STarted out all kinds of ugly but getting to be a very solid game now. Big 12 seems to have the bext basketball in the country this year IMO. Not exactly SEC football versus everyone else but i feel the conference to be the best, close to ACC with PAC 10 being solid this year for sure.
Looks like Kansas has it.

horrible decision on that turnover, mizzu still has a chance as it is a one possession game. If Kansas can really gel i think they can make a run this year. If not i could see a third round 1 upset.

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 10:07 PM
you gotta get a better shot than that, i don't care bout the defense. Lawrence was the guy you want taking that ****, he was lights out earlier from three point lane.

WildDude
01-15-2007, 10:07 PM
Very, very good Kansas/Missouri game. STarted out all kinds of ugly but getting to be a very solid game now. Big 12 seems to have the bext basketball in the country this year IMO. Not exactly SEC football versus everyone else but i feel the conference to be the best, close to ACC with PAC 10 being solid this year for sure.
Looks like Kansas has it.

horrible decision on that turnover, mizzu still has a chance as it is a one possession game. If Kansas can really gel i think they can make a run this year. If not i could see a third round 1 upset.

ugh bad coaching- well they seem to have alot of talent and could get out of the first round but theyre too dang young

FlutiesDropKick
01-15-2007, 10:08 PM
Very, very good Kansas/Missouri game. STarted out all kinds of ugly but getting to be a very solid game now. Big 12 seems to have the bext basketball in the country this year IMO. Not exactly SEC football versus everyone else but i feel the conference to be the best, close to ACC with PAC 10 being solid this year for sure.
Looks like Kansas has it.

no way! what a terrible play and btw sherron collins is looking amazing today

i agree, it takes balls as a frosh to play like he did today

01-15-2007, 10:10 PM
I wish sherron collins went to illinois

GB12
01-15-2007, 10:11 PM
Anyone else think Florida is undeserving of the #1 spot?

Yes. Wisconsin is the best team in the NCAA.

Well I think UCLA should be ahead of them too.

WildDude
01-15-2007, 10:12 PM
me too i sure like them alot better than i like kansas and he would have been the star there i thought it wasnt a smart move to his part but seeing him today he shows he can overcome the depth and do his thing... illinois really wanted him cause his style is very similar to dee brown but with more basketball talent

NYmoney
01-16-2007, 03:14 PM
Here we go Hoosiers, HERE WE GO!! *boom**boom*

www.iuhoosiers.com

check out the homepage of today's winners!

pt spread: hoosiers giving 10.5 pts.

Prediction: IU 71 Iowa 63[/b]

01-16-2007, 04:55 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

DJ White baby.
I have actually met DJ White and played 1 on 1 with him. he is a mother ****** beast.

Donn Harvey
01-16-2007, 05:05 PM
Arizona Wildcats FTW!

Mark it down.. before his career at Arizona is over... Chase Budinger WILL win a Wooden Award, Pac-10 Player of the year, or Naismith POY.

01-16-2007, 05:06 PM
Dominic James is one of my favorite players in college ball right now, anyone else?

DJ White baby.
I have actually met DJ White and played 1 on 1 with him. he is a mother *********** beast.

Holy ****. How'd you meet him?

sweetness34
01-16-2007, 05:28 PM
I wish sherron collins went to illinois

Nope, he decided to go to a coach who has 2 straight first round exits in Bill Self. Ugh...God I can't stand Self.

sik wit it
01-16-2007, 05:33 PM
I had a buddy, didn't even play basketball, that played Travis Diener and Steve Novak in a 2 on 2 game.

iworshipbender
01-16-2007, 06:28 PM
Oregon is so freakin awesome 8)

WildDude
01-16-2007, 06:50 PM
Oregon is so freakin awesome 8)

what does everyone think of Malik Hairston?

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:00 PM
This Texas/Oklahoma state proves my Big 12 point i made yesterday

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:03 PM
This Texas/Oklahoma state proves my Big 12 point i made yesterday

What was it?

The fact that Durant is the best player ever?

ncbigbody
01-16-2007, 10:09 PM
This Texas/Oklahoma state proves my Big 12 point i made yesterday

What was it?

The fact that Durant is the best player ever?

Basically

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:10 PM
This Texas/Oklahoma state proves my Big 12 point i made yesterday

What was it?

The fact that Durant is the best player ever?

that Hatch on OK state has the worst hair of all time actually. :lol:

no that the Big 12 has the best basketball in the country

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:11 PM
ok heres the rule, if you ever want to see an exciting basketball game, make sure i'm watching it. Every game i've watched this year has been amazing, except Western Michigan vs. Virginia Tec but i'm not sure why i watched that in the first place

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:12 PM
Im not a huge hoops fan but yeah BIG 12 basketball is awesome.

ncbigbody
01-16-2007, 10:12 PM
This Texas/Oklahoma state proves my Big 12 point i made yesterday

What was it?

The fact that Durant is the best player ever?

that Hatch on OK state has the worst hair of all time actually. :lol:

no that the Big 12 has the best basketball in the country

OK state, texas, and Kansas, everyone else is average or below average in the Big 12.

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:14 PM
This Texas/Oklahoma state proves my Big 12 point i made yesterday

What was it?

The fact that Durant is the best player ever?

that Hatch on OK state has the worst hair of all time actually. :lol:

no that the Big 12 has the best basketball in the country

OK state, texas, and Kansas, everyone else is average or below average in the Big 12.

texas A&m, Missouri is solid, even Baylor is improving and other teams are still solid. IMO its the best with ACC close second

ncbigbody
01-16-2007, 10:16 PM
This Texas/Oklahoma state proves my Big 12 point i made yesterday

What was it?

The fact that Durant is the best player ever?

that Hatch on OK state has the worst hair of all time actually. :lol:

no that the Big 12 has the best basketball in the country

OK state, texas, and Kansas, everyone else is average or below average in the Big 12.

texas A&m, Missouri is solid, even Baylor is improving and other teams are still solid. IMO its the best with ACC close second

Forgot about A&M

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:17 PM
This Texas/Oklahoma state proves my Big 12 point i made yesterday

What was it?

The fact that Durant is the best player ever?

that Hatch on OK state has the worst hair of all time actually. :lol:

no that the Big 12 has the best basketball in the country

OK state, texas, and Kansas, everyone else is average or below average in the Big 12.

texas A&m, Missouri is solid, even Baylor is improving and other teams are still solid. IMO its the best with ACC close second

Forgot about A&M

tsk tsk....a top 10 team and all you had to do was look to the bottom of my posts :lol:

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:18 PM
Whoa this is an exciting OT...

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:20 PM
Whoa this is an exciting OT...

honestly this is probably one of the best pre-conference tournament games i've seen in a while

ncbigbody
01-16-2007, 10:20 PM
Kevin Durant is far and away best player in the country right now.

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:21 PM
Oden is all hype in my opinion. Whenever I see him play he looks average. But im not the most knowledgeable Basketball fan to be honest.

GO UT!

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:22 PM
Kevin Durant is far and away best player in the country right now.

i wouldn't go that far, definately best freshman and all american but not bext player in country

ncbigbody
01-16-2007, 10:23 PM
Kevin Durant is far and away best player in the country right now.

i wouldn't go that far, definately best freshman and all american but not bext player in country

Who is better? Even Vitale said he may be the best player in the country.

WildDude
01-16-2007, 10:28 PM
Lmao i hate hatchs hair

Yeah i agree Durant is the best player in the country peroid. however no matter how good he does unless oden dosent enter he wont be #1... hes clutch too!

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:30 PM
Kevin Durant is far and away best player in the country right now.

i wouldn't go that far, definately best freshman and all american but not bext player in country

Who is better? Even Vitale said he may be the best player in the country.

you know i was convinced he wasn't but the more i think i can't seem to think of anyone who is playing better right now. I'll realize somebody at like 2:30 and run to the comp to post it, or i may not.

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:32 PM
ok nevermind, Durant is a straight up FREAK

WildDude
01-16-2007, 10:33 PM
OMG durant! how the heck is he doing it? hes better than tmac was at this point so i dont really like that comparison

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:33 PM
Crazyilicious!

WildDude
01-16-2007, 10:34 PM
HATCH!

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:34 PM
Fazekas is who i realized is close but his competition is nothing like Durants and now i can't even argue that anymore.

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:35 PM
Fazekas is who i realized is close but his competition is nothing like Durant's and now i can't even argue that anymore.

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:36 PM
That white guy on our team is awful. He keeps taking fouls and getting owned on the boards...

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:38 PM
Durantzilla!

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:39 PM
Damnit! That was obvious. Should have went to agustin.

ncbigbody
01-16-2007, 10:40 PM
That white guy on our team is awful. He keeps taking fouls and getting owned on the boards...

Connor Atchley. He needs to put on like 20 more pounds of muscle, hes too weak. But he has a lot of upside as a sophmore. Damien James fouled out, he is our rebound guy behind durant.

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:41 PM
i <3 college basketball, i can't deny it

this game is just so good. I remember JamesOn as a frosh, i could see he was going to be great, Mario Boggan though is just a beast.

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:41 PM
o and DUrant still is amazing

WildDude
01-16-2007, 10:43 PM
its a shame jameson curry will never get the respect he deserves cause of his past

btw byron eaton should be playing football hes a beast

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:46 PM
alll i can say right now is holy crap, what a game. I think now i'm pretty much switched out of playoff mode and into COllege Basketball mode because of this game

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:46 PM
Nice shot by white guy!

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:48 PM
Nice shot by white guy!

white guy at the three point line, come on man its automatic....except when i shoot, then its only 98% :wink:

WildDude
01-16-2007, 10:48 PM
god what a great game!

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:50 PM
alll i can say right now is holy crap, what a game. I think now i'm pretty much switched out of playoff mode and into COllege Basketball mode because of this game

I hear yah man, and im not even a huge basketball fan. I just love UT...

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:51 PM
god what a great game!

if this goes to 4OTs i officially will change that to "epic" insetad of merely "great". I sense i 3 pointer by Texas though, not saying it will go in but it will be a three.

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:54 PM
ok so i meant 3 point play :wink:

Windy
01-16-2007, 10:55 PM
great game

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:55 PM
OH

MY

GOD

:shock:

Pit Bull #53
01-16-2007, 10:55 PM
wtf was Abrams doing

Pokeys
01-16-2007, 10:55 PM
****!

Amazing game, too bad we freaking lost!

WildDude
01-16-2007, 10:56 PM
OMG MONDS IS A BEAST!

FlutiesDropKick
01-16-2007, 10:57 PM
***********!

Amazing game, too bad we freaking lost!

i was rooting for OK STate if you couldn't tell 8) Wow i am now physically and emotionally drained by that game

ncbigbody
01-16-2007, 10:57 PM
Tony Romo rips my heart out, now a lucky shot to win the game. God should kill me now.

NIN1984
01-16-2007, 10:58 PM
wow that was like the best game ever

:shock:

WildDude
01-16-2007, 10:58 PM
my bad i meant Boggan but still!

snuff
01-16-2007, 11:00 PM
Good game, unfortunately its mid-season college basketball meaning it doesn't mean anything since both those teams will be in the tournament.

WildDude
01-16-2007, 11:01 PM
heh well it gave us a glimpse of what the big 12 tourney will look like

TitleTown088
01-17-2007, 12:48 AM
Good game, unfortunately its mid-season college basketball meaning it doesn't mean anything since both those teams will be in the tournament.

every win means somthing because it decides what seed you will get in the tourney.

RyanLeaf#1
01-17-2007, 07:23 AM
That game was great.... I hope the Sixers either get Durant or Oden

NYmoney
01-17-2007, 08:22 AM
That game was great.... I hope the Sixers either get Durant or Oden

Oden is not coming out. Mark it down.

RyanLeaf#1
01-17-2007, 09:37 AM
That game was great.... I hope the Sixers either get Durant or Oden

Oden is not coming out. Mark it down.

I believe you I remember reading in Slam Punks last year when he was on the cover that he wanted to stay in school all 4 years. I would definitely take Durant if thats the case.

sik wit it
01-17-2007, 01:37 PM
Bo Ryan gave an interview on The Jim Rome show. Good to see he is getting national recognition. Bo knows basketball.
War the Badgers 2007 National Champs

buckeyes12
01-17-2007, 02:36 PM
Wisonsin is just this year's Washington Huskies. They'll be that number 1 seed that barely reaches the sweet 16.

however if they lose a few games and slip out of the national radar and land a 3-4 seed, i will pick them to go to the elite 8 at least. They got the big men inside to score and play D, and the superstar on the outside, although inexperienced, should be a big impact for them.


UNC's winning it all anyway so it really doesn't matter. They win this year, barely lose any1 and come back and win it again next year. Dynasty 05, 07, 08. Hansbrough earns top 5 pick in 08 draft.

GB12
01-17-2007, 03:03 PM
Wisonsin is just this year's Washington Huskies. They'll be that number 1 seed that barely reaches the sweet 16.

however if they lose a few games and slip out of the national radar and land a 3-4 seed, i will pick them to go to the elite 8 at least. They got the big men inside to score and play D, and the superstar on the outside, although inexperienced, should be a big impact for them.


Ok, sure if they have a harder schedule of course they will go put earlier. :roll:

Also I don't see the Washington comparison at all. They just barely got the #1 and didn't really deserve it. Wisconsin could be the Number one overall seed.

01-17-2007, 03:21 PM
The Hoosiers almost blew a 21 point lead last night. :(

sik wit it
01-17-2007, 03:28 PM
Wisonsin is just this year's Washington Huskies. They'll be that number 1 seed that barely reaches the sweet 16.

however if they lose a few games and slip out of the national radar and land a 3-4 seed, i will pick them to go to the elite 8 at least. They got the big men inside to score and play D, and the superstar on the outside, although inexperienced, should be a big impact for them.


UNC's winning it all anyway so it really doesn't matter. They win this year, barely lose any1 and come back and win it again next year. Dynasty 05, 07, 08. Hansbrough earns top 5 pick in 08 draft.
HA. I can't stop laughing after I read this. INEXPERIENCED?? How? They are one of the most experienced team in college basketball. It usually comes down to matchups in the tournament. We have done some damage in the past, it just goes unnoticed. The badgers have enough depth, they have the talent, they have the experience, they have the coach, the swagger, the scheme. Alando Tucker doesn't have to drive the team for the Badgers to win. We can have a leading scorer every night. opponent, I am not scared whatsoever because I know they can win.

MaxV
01-17-2007, 03:30 PM
The Hoosiers almost blew a 21 point lead last night. :(

It's ok, they just relaxed too early. When Iowa got back in it, Hoosiers woke up and put it away.

They are playing some good b-ball. That game against UCONN will be an EXCELLENT one.

WildDude
01-17-2007, 03:34 PM
The Hoosiers almost blew a 21 point lead last night. :(

It's ok, they just relaxed too early. When Iowa got back in it, Hoosiers woke up and put it away.

They are playing some good b-ball. That game against UCONN will be an EXCELLENT one.

yeah excellent for us huskies should be an easy win

01-17-2007, 03:36 PM
The Hoosiers almost blew a 21 point lead last night. :(

It's ok, they just relaxed too early. When Iowa got back in it, Hoosiers woke up and put it away.

They are playing some good b-ball. That game against UCONN will be an EXCELLENT one.

yeah excellent for us huskies should be an easy win

You're joking right? IU is a legit top 30 team.

MaxV
01-17-2007, 03:38 PM
The Hoosiers almost blew a 21 point lead last night. :(

It's ok, they just relaxed too early. When Iowa got back in it, Hoosiers woke up and put it away.

They are playing some good b-ball. That game against UCONN will be an EXCELLENT one.

yeah excellent for us huskies should be an easy win

I don't know man.

IU has lost to only very good teams (Butler, Duke, Kentucky and OSU), and has pushed all of them to the wire.

bsaza2358
01-17-2007, 03:43 PM
That game was great.... I hope the Sixers either get Durant or Oden

Durant played like an absolute superstar last night. If Oden doesn't come out, so be it. I'm actually excited to see what the Sixers are able to do with this draft. I haven't really been a fan of the team since Barkley left, so I'm excited for them to get a new superstar to lead them. Oden would be great for the city (they haven't had a true center in his prime since Malone). Either way, I'm very high on Durant, regardless of where he goes in the draft.

NYmoney
01-17-2007, 03:46 PM
The Hoosiers almost blew a 21 point lead last night. :(

It's ok, they just relaxed too early. When Iowa got back in it, Hoosiers woke up and put it away.

They are playing some good b-ball. That game against UCONN will be an EXCELLENT one.

yeah excellent for us huskies should be an easy win

I don't know man.

IU has lost to only very good teams (Butler, Duke, Kentucky and OSU), and has pushed all of them to the wire.

We will prolly push UConn to the brink Saturday, but I expect us to lose. IU just has very poor talent right now. Stemler never played before more than 30 fans in his collegiant career before this year. Mike White is nonexistent. DJ looks 47. Ratliff looks like he's given up on basketball to pursue acting as Dumbo in the next Disney film, and Roddy Wilmont is definitely on steroids. When you add this all up, we have no basketball talent. So UConn should be weary of the Hoosiers because we play great D and are scrappy. If I recall, that's the same formula George Mason used last year to beat a much better UConn team.

WildDude
01-17-2007, 03:47 PM
well uconns gonna be pissed that theyre out of the top 25 and will mess up indiana up... lets look at the starters shall we?

Indiana
G. Earl Calloway
G. Armon Bassett
G/SF. Roderick Wilmont
PF. Lance Stemler
C. DJ White

Key Bench Players
AJ Ratliff
Ben Allen
Joey Shaw

UCONN
PG. AJ Price
SG. Jerome Dyson
SF. Stanley Robinson
PF. Jeff Adrien
C. Hasheem Thabeet

Key Bench Players
Marcus Johnson
Curtis Kelly
Doug Wiggins
Jon Mendelove
Craig Austrie

the only edge Indiana has is DJ White over Hasheem Thabeet offensively but besides that eh

MaxV
01-17-2007, 03:50 PM
The Hoosiers almost blew a 21 point lead last night. :(

It's ok, they just relaxed too early. When Iowa got back in it, Hoosiers woke up and put it away.

They are playing some good b-ball. That game against UCONN will be an EXCELLENT one.

yeah excellent for us huskies should be an easy win

I don't know man.

IU has lost to only very good teams (Butler, Duke, Kentucky and OSU), and has pushed all of them to the wire.

We will prolly push UConn to the brink Saturday, but I expect us to lose. IU just has very poor talent right now. Stemler never played before more than 30 fans in his collegiant career before this year. Mike White is nonexistent. DJ looks 47. Ratliff looks like he's given up on basketball to pursue acting as Dumbo in the next Disney film, and Roddy Wilmont is definitely on steroids. When you add this all up, we have no basketball talent. So UConn should be weary of the Hoosiers because we play great D and are scrappy. If I recall, that's the same formula George Mason used last year to beat a much better UConn team.

Yes, the talent level on this team is average, but like you've said they are playing good D.

The funny part about IU is that every player has been incosistant this year, but it seems like every time one player struggles another one picks him up.

NYmoney
01-17-2007, 03:53 PM
well uconns gonna be pissed that theyre out of the top 25 and will mess up indiana up... lets look at the starters shall we?

Indiana
G. Earl Calloway
G. Armon Bassett
G/SF. Roderick Wilmont
PF. Lance Stemler
C. DJ White

Key Bench Players
AJ Ratliff
Ben Allen
Joey Shaw

UCONN
PG. AJ Price
SG. Jerome Dyson
SF. Stanley Robinson
PF. Jeff Adrien
C. Hasheem Thabeet

Key Bench Players
Marcus Johnson
Curtis Kelly
Doug Wiggins
Jon Mendelove
Craig Austrie

the only edge Indiana has is DJ White over Hasheem Thabeet offensively but besides that eh

here's a sign of bias: you say UCONN has 5 KEY BENCH PLAYERS??? What are they the Eastern All-Stars? That's ridiculous.

Nonetheless, they play the game as a team, not 1 on 1. So many of those advantages tha tyou claim are negated.

bsaza2358
01-17-2007, 03:53 PM
I think Indiana has a much better team this year, but this is a potential trap game for the Hoosiers. UConn has a ton of talent, and I always give the coaching edge to Jim Calhoun, especially when he's developing young kids. I think he and his assistants do a tremendous job every year with this.

Regardless, Indiana should be able to execute better than UConn and should win. Still, I wouldn't be shocked if UConn hung in there and earned a great character win.

Boston
01-17-2007, 03:54 PM
Wisonsin is just this year's Washington Huskies. They'll be that number 1 seed that barely reaches the sweet 16.

however if they lose a few games and slip out of the national radar and land a 3-4 seed, i will pick them to go to the elite 8 at least. They got the big men inside to score and play D, and the superstar on the outside, although inexperienced, should be a big impact for them.


UNC's winning it all anyway so it really doesn't matter. They win this year, barely lose any1 and come back and win it again next year. Dynasty 05, 07, 08. Hansbrough earns top 5 pick in 08 draft.

Let me guess. OSU to the final four?

NYmoney
01-17-2007, 03:55 PM
I think Indiana has a much better team this year, but this is a potential trap game for the Hoosiers. UConn has a ton of talent, and I always give the coaching edge to Jim Calhoun, especially when he's developing young kids. I think he and his assistants do a tremendous job every year with this.

Regardless, Indiana should be able to execute better than UConn and should win. Still, I wouldn't be shocked if UConn hung in there and earned a great character win.

How is an away game at UConn a trap game? I don't follow.

MaxV
01-17-2007, 03:56 PM
I think Indiana has a much better team this year, but this is a potential trap game for the Hoosiers. UConn has a ton of talent, and I always give the coaching edge to Jim Calhoun, especially when he's developing young kids. I think he and his assistants do a tremendous job every year with this.

Regardless, Indiana should be able to execute better than UConn and should win. Still, I wouldn't be shocked if UConn hung in there and earned a great character win.

:?:

You make it sound like IU is a favorite in this game. I don't think they are.

UCONN has more talent on the team.

01-17-2007, 03:56 PM
IU doesn't have bad talent, but they are overachievers. They play great defense and are also a very good rebounding team despite having only two players that are over 6'9''. And if you think Ben Allen is a key bench player you don't know IU. The game will be close, to think it will be a blowout doesn't make sense. It will a tough win for us because we never seem to win on the road.