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iowatreat54
01-27-2010, 09:27 PM
Moral victory vs. OSU tonight!!!
Seriously, OSU looked horrible. Evan Turner basically only played the last 2 minutes of the game. The rest of the time he did nothing.
Which means, Eric May/Cully Payne/Little Lickliter > Evan Turner.
StripedWalrus
01-27-2010, 10:30 PM
I dont want to "down" Downey any but UK had more to do with UK losing than anything. They played just plain horrible. They were missing wide open shots and seemed to not be able to pull a rebound down at all. Downey was 9-29 on field goals. That is far from impressive. The only impressive thing he did was get to the foul line. Which he did well...he picked up 10 xtra pts that way.
YAYareaRB
01-28-2010, 11:06 AM
Where do you guys see Harangody gettin' drafted? He's pretty short for a PF but I like his game
princefielder28
01-28-2010, 11:18 AM
Where do you guys see Harangody gettin' drafted? He's pretty short for a PF but I like his game
he's a late late first to 2nd round type player. somebody solid to come off the bench
SeanTaylorRIP
01-28-2010, 12:45 PM
Where do you guys see Harangody gettin' drafted? He's pretty short for a PF but I like his game
I actually like him better than Psycho T. Harangody plays similarly to Antawn Jamison. It doesn't matter if he's not tall enough he just knows how to get off his shots in unorthodox ways. My issue with him which will prevent him from ever being a starter is his liability on defense. Even on the collegiate level he isn't tall enough and tbh not strong enough to hold his own down low against skilled post players. He's also far too slow to guard 3's on the perimeter. I say he's your typical 2nd round role player, ala Leon Powe.
Boston
01-28-2010, 07:55 PM
Keaton Nankivil makes Benicio Del Toro look like a puppy.
PalmerToCJ
01-30-2010, 01:24 PM
Louisville just got ripped pretty hard on that one.
Scotty D
01-30-2010, 01:26 PM
Obama doing the commentary at the Duke-Georgetown game right now haha.
prock
01-30-2010, 01:27 PM
Obama doing the commentary at the Duke-Georgetown game right now haha.
obama said he cant watch a full game and he doesnt watch basketball at all really until march madness. so much for our "baller" of a president.
TitleTown088
01-30-2010, 01:39 PM
Obama doing the commentary at the Duke-Georgetown game right now haha.
He was pretty good at it too. I liked his joke about going right. Obama sure can think quick and be articulate.
PalmerToCJ
01-30-2010, 01:40 PM
KU controls their own destiny for taking #1 back. If not UK could retain with a win and 'Cuse playing lackluster, I don't see Villanova getting the nod.
iowatreat54
01-30-2010, 02:01 PM
Yup, Louisville lost the game on their own, but they got pretty screwed over by the refs in the end.
First it was clearly a foul on that 3 pointer. The Louisville guy got absolutely decked. Then the ball out of bounds.
The refs were pretty horrible all around the whole game though. Congrats to WV for being luckier I guess.
CashmoneyDrew
01-30-2010, 02:02 PM
What's with Duke's Tron jerseys?
kwilk103
01-30-2010, 02:18 PM
we get the turk back!!!!
deniz kilici
TitleTown088
01-30-2010, 02:19 PM
What's with Duke's Tron jerseys?
They've had them for a couple seasons. I like them actually.
T-RICH49
01-30-2010, 03:34 PM
KU/KSU tonight can't wait
El Peefs?????
01-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Lets see how big of a lead Michigan can build today before losing it in the 2nd half.
Sniper
01-30-2010, 03:58 PM
Lets see how big of a lead Michigan can build today before losing it in the 2nd half.
15 is my guess.
Notredameleo
01-30-2010, 07:17 PM
Louisville gets hosed by the refs AGAIN!! That is three games, WVU, SH, and Pitt...Granted we shouldn't have been in that position to begin with, but these are easy calls....refs should be held accountable.
T-RICH49
01-30-2010, 07:24 PM
Marcus Morris and Cole Aldrich are BEASTING
T-RICH49
01-30-2010, 07:38 PM
the refs in the KU/KSU game are atrocious
gotta feel bad for K-State, they played their hearts out that entire game...that last Sherron Collins layup though is the definition of clutch.
T-RICH49
01-30-2010, 09:41 PM
whew we survived
scottyboy
01-30-2010, 11:08 PM
wooo! Rutgers with our first big east win over Notre Dame!
kwilk103
01-31-2010, 12:35 AM
Louisville gets hosed by the refs AGAIN!! That is three games, WVU, SH, and Pitt...Granted we shouldn't have been in that position to begin with, but these are easy calls....refs should be held accountable.
http://i45.tinypic.com/33f6nau.jpg
last one to touch it was right hand of ul player; wasnt ebanks' left as his left hand is wrapped in taped
PalmerToCJ
01-31-2010, 01:39 AM
Collins can finish but what an awful job of time management in the end by Martin. I mean, I always thought he was a bad coach but was very surprised this year... Until now. Down 1 with 38 seconds or whatever left you go for the steal for a few then foul, end of story. Absolutely awful decision to let the clock run down, really limiting your opportunities.
T-RICH49
01-31-2010, 10:11 AM
yeah gotta agree there.especially when Taylor had the ball that was when you had to foul
Notredameleo
01-31-2010, 11:51 AM
Well the ball was off of a WVU player with 17 second left when we were up by 1. Not to mention that on that shot, Delk was fouled hard during the 3 attempt. I do agree that that angle shows it went off of Buckles, but the rule clearly states that if no call is made (the refs didn't see it) it is a jump ball situation, and it was UL's possession arrow. The refs were horrible and everyone who watched knows it.
PalmerToCJ
01-31-2010, 12:09 PM
yeah gotta agree there.especially when Taylor had the ball that was when you had to foul
The worst part was one of the Morris twins had it too for a short time. It was just confusing for sure.
Glad they won, Kansas really the only team I'm sold on being #1 over UK. Syracuse I can take too but with Kansas winning that game they deserve it no doubt.
T-RICH49
01-31-2010, 12:13 PM
Sherron Collins record at KU:
117-17 overall
11-2 in the NCAA Tourney
3 Big 12 Conferance Titles and counting
Winner is the best way to describe SC
PalmerToCJ
01-31-2010, 12:24 PM
On the UK game yesterday if they hit 3's like that, they're nearly impossible to beat. The game got ruined by a ton of foul calls but it was a beating throughout. Demarcus Cousins is really really really coming along, as in working his way into the discussion for NPOY (slim chance he wins it).
PalmerToCJ
01-31-2010, 02:01 PM
And Chandler Parsons is easily the most clutch 3 point shooter in the nation lol... Just hit another big one to put Florida up with 30 seconds left @ Tennessee.
EDIT: Wow and Scotty Hopson answers right back. This game was a good one.
CashmoneyDrew
01-31-2010, 02:02 PM
**** me if Tennessee loses this one. That would be 3 straight losses.
CashmoneyDrew
01-31-2010, 02:03 PM
Hopson>>>>>>>Parsons!!!!!!!!
aNYtitan
01-31-2010, 02:09 PM
Sherron Collins record at KU:
117-17 overall
11-2 in the NCAA Tourney
3 Big 12 Conferance Titles and counting
Winner is the best way to describe SC
Undersized is another
adschofield
01-31-2010, 07:56 PM
Undersized is another
Nah, you're probably thinking of Chris Paul
YAYareaRB
02-01-2010, 01:30 PM
Although he is short, he's no stick. He's pretty thick.
bored of education
02-01-2010, 08:35 PM
James Anderson is such a ******* beast. I love Travis Ford. I wish UMASS kept him but they never could.
PalmerToCJ
02-01-2010, 08:56 PM
James Anderson is such a ******* beast.
Quoted for truth. He is a sick scorer.
I've got the under on this one of 152, they are making me money now lol.
bored of education
02-01-2010, 08:58 PM
Quoted for truth. He is a sick scorer.
I've got the under on this one of 152, they are making me money now lol.
Good call.
prock
02-01-2010, 09:40 PM
i ******* love bobby knight
derza222
02-02-2010, 07:37 PM
Seton Hall is dangerous, giving 'Nova a hell of a game. I actually have a bet with my roommate that SHU is going to end our winning streak, 35ish straight at the Pavilion. Villanova up just 2 midway through the second half.
princefielder28
02-02-2010, 08:18 PM
Jordan Taylor is gonna be a stud for the Badgers
Boston
02-02-2010, 08:48 PM
The Badgers are just dominating Michigan State right now.
prock
02-02-2010, 08:53 PM
Jordan Taylor is gonna be a stud for the Badgers
of course he is, he is from minnesota.
SeanTaylorRIP
02-02-2010, 08:53 PM
Although he is short, he's no stick. He's pretty thick.
It's tough to project Collins into the NBA. Inevitably you have got to compare him to Ty Lawson being as they have similar measurables. Lawson was definitely a superior passer and 3 point shooter. Quickness I give to Lawson but strength I give to Collins. Both could get to the hoop but Collins is stronger and more athletic. Clutchness Collins name is hot now but Ty was pretty clutch in his days at UNC. I think right now because of his height and the fact that he isn't the purest point I think he's a early 20's pick at best with a big chance of being an early-mid second rounder.
yo123
02-02-2010, 09:58 PM
Seton Hall is dangerous, giving 'Nova a hell of a game. I actually have a bet with my roommate that SHU is going to end our winning streak, 35ish straight at the Pavilion. Villanova up just 2 midway through the second half.
They would be more dangerous if Jeremy Hazell didn't shoot them out of damn near every game.
Hurricanes25
02-03-2010, 02:01 PM
It's time for St. Johns to fire Norm Roberts. The team has been terrible in the last couple weeks and it's long overdue.
prock
02-03-2010, 07:28 PM
well just in case anyone didnt know, depaul sucks. they really really suck.
703SKINS202
02-03-2010, 08:28 PM
Kilicli was worth the wait. Awesome debut tonight in the brawl.
PalmerToCJ
02-03-2010, 09:52 PM
Dear Colorado... If you want to upset the #1 team in the nation you have to make open shots.
EDIT: White shooting guard for Colorado is keeping them from taking the lead all by himself.
bored of education
02-03-2010, 10:10 PM
Dear Colorado... If you want to upset the #1 team in the nation you have to make open shots.
EDIT: White shooting guard for Colorado is keeping them from taking the lead all by himself.
yeah he keeps ******* up. it will be pandemonium on the floor if the buffs win
bored of education
02-03-2010, 10:14 PM
Terrible play or whatever you call that by the buffs
PalmerToCJ
02-03-2010, 10:22 PM
Execution by Colorado has been flat out awful. They are done here.
And they still can't hit an open shot to save their life.
Cigaro
02-04-2010, 08:43 PM
Yep, we're classy. Be jealous.
http://kykernel.com/2010/02/03/south-carolina-students-crow-over-athletic-supremacy/
(ok, actually SMH)
Xiomera
02-05-2010, 12:07 AM
Guys, I don't know if any of you give a damn, but I'd appreciate it if you guys read (or just clicked on) my new blog about Oakland University basketball.
http://blog.mlive.com/golden_grizzlies_den/index.html
I've just started it, and I would appreciate any and all internet traffic this blog can get. You might learn a thing or two as well.
El Peefs?????
02-05-2010, 12:32 AM
Guys, I don't know if any of you give a damn, but I'd appreciate it if you guys read (or just clicked on) my new blog about Oakland University basketball.
http://blog.mlive.com/golden_grizzlies_den/index.html
I've just started it, and I would appreciate any and all internet traffic this blog can get. You might learn a thing or two as well.
I might have looked, but then you lost by 20 against IUPUI !
Xiomera
02-05-2010, 12:36 AM
I might have looked, but then you lost by 20 against IUPUI !
Shut it, Peefs. Just when I started to like you again . . . http://draftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif
garrard9
02-05-2010, 11:36 PM
Haven't been by this section in a little bit. I'm a big time Syracuse fan. Any questions about the Orange I can answer with certainty. They are on upset alert Sunday at Cincinnati. They have been slow starting so hopefully this is the game they come out on fire.
I would love to be in Assembly Hall right now.
T-RICH49
02-06-2010, 08:27 PM
if KU wins Monday they essentially clinch the big 12 having at least 3 games on everyone right now
bored of education
02-06-2010, 09:37 PM
I would love to be in Assembly Hall right now.
It is amazing there right now wow
Rushing the court? *******.
PalmerToCJ
02-06-2010, 10:08 PM
People really have no idea when to rush the court anymore...
Good game though.
People really have no idea when to rush the court anymore...
Good game though.
It is never acceptable against a conference opponent. I don't care if you're winless and just knocked off the number one team. If it's a conference opponent, no way.
Brodeur
02-06-2010, 10:11 PM
Rushing the court? *******.
Dick Vitale almost threw a bitchfit about it which was hilarious.
bored of education
02-06-2010, 10:16 PM
Dick Vitale almost threw a bitchfit about it which was hilarious.
I agree that was funny sir.
El Peefs?????
02-06-2010, 10:37 PM
So happy to see Michigan State lose. For awhile there I got over my hate of the Spartans and supported them as a Michigan & Big 10 team.
But MSU must have the most ridiculously delusional and utterly annoying fan base around. I can no longer in good conscience be a fan of that school & all of its fans who suffer greatly from red headed step child syndrome.
So how does the Big Ten shake out.
The Big Ten standings right now look like:
1. Michigan State (9-2)
2. Wisconsin (8-3)
3. Illinois (8-3)
4. Purdue (7-3)
5. Ohio State (7-3)
It looks wide open between the top 5, and in a way it is, but I'd rank them in the order listed below for favorites to get at least a share of the title.
Wisconsin: Already had all the tough conference games in the early part of conference play and made it through with only 3 losses. Those losses came against Michigan State, Ohio State, and Purdue all on the road. The Badgers won all three home matches giving them a split series for all. So with those out of the way Wisconsin has a cake walk of a schedule to finish the season. All they have to do is take care of business against teams they should beat anyway and they're looking pretty good for at least a share of the title. Hardest 3 games remaining: @Illinois, Illinois, @Minnesota
Michigan State Obviously being in first place right now they control their own destiny and take it if they win out. However they got Purdue right away on Tuesday which could give the Spartans their third loss in a row and put them right back with the rest of the pack. I'm not sure what Kalin Lucas' status is for that game, but if he's still out or even not 100% I definitely see Purdue winning. Even if they win they still have to play Ohio State and go to Purdue. I see them getting at least one loss out of those and assuming Wisconsin can take care of business against the lesser teams that'd get them a share of the title, but I think there's a good chance they drop two there. Hardest 3 games remaining: @Purdue, Purdue, Ohio State
Ohio State Only two really tough games remaining, but the timing isn't too nice. They have to go to Michigan state just three days after playing the Boilermakers. However they have already beaten Purdue on the road and have only one conference loss with Evan Turner. If the records were even I'd definitely put them ahead of Michigan State. Hardest 3 games remaining: @Ohio State, Michigan State, @Illinois
Purdue They still have a lot of work to do. They have to go on the road to Michigan State and to Ohio State within a 9 day span. They also have to face Michigan state for the second time on the 27th. With 3 losses already it'll be tough to get through that and still have a shot. One loss might keep them from having a chance, and two almost certainly will. Hardest 3 games remaining: @Michigan State, @Ohio State, Michigan State
Illinois: I almost didn't want to include them because like I said they have no chance, but I suppose I'll show why. They're pretty much the opposite of Wisconsin. They've had the easiest schedule in the Big Ten so far, and that is the only reason they are sitting at 8-3. They're just about done with those easy games now though. They probably have the hardest remaining schedule of any team in the nation. In their final 7 games they have to play Wisconsin twice, Ohio State twice, and Purdue. They should enjoy that third place standing now because Illinois is looking at a 12-6 to 10-8 conference record at the end of the year. Hardest 3 games remaining: @Wisconsin, @Ohio State, @Purdue
Basically Wisconsin has gotten its hard games out of the way while Michigan State, Purdue, and Ohio State will beat up on each other. For the next section I tried doing percentages, but there are still way to many possibilities, so I'm just going to list the possibilities with the best chances. I'm pretty much assuming that all games not against another contender is won, which of course as seen by tonight's game is not always the case.
Assuming 2 losses takes the conference: Champion: Michigan State
Assuming 3 losses takes the conference: One of Purdue and Ohio State will be eliminated after their match up. That is certain, there cannot be a 4 way tie with 3 losses. It's also extremely unlikely that everything plays out perfectly so that both Michigan State and the winner have 3 losses. Champion: 1. Wisconsin and Michigan State 2. Wisconsin 3. Wisconsin and Ohio State 4. Michigan State
Assuming 4 losses takes the conference: Well for this to happen Wisconsin would have dropped a game to a game it should have won and Michigan State would have lost 2. This is where the three way ties come in. Still impossible for the 4 way I believe. However a three way would seem very likely. Champion: 1. Wisconsin/Michigan State/Ohio State 2. Wisconsin/Michigan State/Purdue 3. Wisconsin
Now here are my predictions as to how the rest of the season will play out.
Illinois:
@ WIS - L
OSU - W
@ PUR - L
@ MICH - W
MINN - W
@ OSU - L
WIS - L
11-7
Purdue
@ MSU -W
IOWA- W
@ OSU -L
ILL - W
@ MINN - W
MSU - L
IND - W
@ PSU - W
13-5
Ohio State
IOWA - W
@ IND - W
@ ILL- L
PUR - W
@ MSU - L
@ PSU - W
MICH - W
ILL - W
13-5
Wisconsin
ILL - W
IND - W
@ MINN - L
NW - W
@ IND - W
IOWA - W
@ ILL - W
14-4
Michigan State
PUR -L
@ PSU - W
@ IND - W
OSU - W
@ PUR - W
PSU -W
MICH -W
15-3
Big Ten Champion: Michigan State
Xiomera
02-07-2010, 11:45 AM
For anyone who cares, Oakland and Oral Roberts played one hell of a game last night. Best basketball game I've watched this season:
http://blog.mlive.com/golden_grizzlies_den/2010/02/golden_grizzlies_defeat_oru.html
thenewfeature06
02-07-2010, 11:47 AM
I have a feeling UNC will beat maryland today in college park, our bigs are way better then there bigs and all we have to worry about is grevis
T-RICH49
02-07-2010, 01:07 PM
For anyone who cares, Oakland and Oral Roberts played one hell of a game last night. Best basketball game I've watched this season:
http://blog.mlive.com/golden_grizzlies_den/2010/02/golden_grizzlies_defeat_oru.html
Benson is a BEAST
North Carolina just got raped. Zero chance at making the tournament. That is great.
bored of education
02-07-2010, 03:04 PM
Evan Turner is awesome
T-RICH49
02-07-2010, 03:29 PM
irritated me how the announcers were blaming it on losing 4 players to the NBA.last year we lost our entire starting lineup from the NC team and still got to the Sweet 16
thenewfeature06
02-07-2010, 03:56 PM
North Carolina just got raped. Zero chance at making the tournament. That is great.
Thats what happens when you lose 70 some percent of your scoring along with bad decision making.
yo123
02-07-2010, 04:00 PM
Thats what happens when you lose 70 some percent of your scoring along with bad decision making.
You're North Carolina. You're not allowed to have rebuilding years.
Brodeur
02-07-2010, 04:04 PM
Thats what happens when you lose 70 some percent of your scoring along with bad decision making.
It's ******* North Carolina like Yo said. They should still be able to make the tourney with just their recruiting class. Asshole presently at Kentucky does this **** every year with a new crop of guys just fine.
thenewfeature06
02-07-2010, 04:13 PM
It's ******* North Carolina like Yo said. They should still be able to make the tourney with just their recruiting class. Asshole presently at Kentucky does this **** every year with a new crop of guys just fine.
Yea well for some reason this year the chemistry on the team hasn't been as good as its been in other years like this and with our strengths being big men, we have nobody that can shoot a 3 for **** and as far as we are not aloud to have a rebuilding year, too late.
fischbowl
02-07-2010, 10:21 PM
If Cuse isn't #1 soon, so help me
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 12:19 AM
Thats what happens when you lose 70 some percent of your scoring along with bad decision making.
KU lost their entire starting lineup from the title team and Self still got them to the sweet 16.prehaps it's coaching
TitansCJftw
02-08-2010, 12:39 AM
Thats what happens when you lose 70 some percent of your scoring along with bad decision making.
come on man get real, unless you give roy williams a minimum one or more lottery picks he can't do a whole lot, that team is very talented but plays like crap, get it together dude and realize that unless your coach recruits the ABSOLUTE best you arent going to get it on the court because he isnt that good of a coach, the talent level on that team and the product on the court is an absolute joke
Xiomera
02-08-2010, 08:32 AM
Benson is a BEAST
Yes, yes he is. I want him on the Pistons, haha.
Kramer
02-08-2010, 08:52 AM
23-1 Syracuse baby! So if Texas beats Kansas tonight, would 'Cuse move up to 1?
PalmerToCJ
02-08-2010, 12:27 PM
It would be a close one between UK and 'Cuse if both won their games this week.
From what I've heard from most UNC fans, it's a big complaint that Roy is playing the seniors too much. It definitely shouldn't be a talent problem since they have 7 or 8 HS All Americans. Has to be a 50/50 mix of players and coaching.
Can't wait for KU/UT. Texas has been sucking obviously but they're at home for a big game so you never know.
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 12:36 PM
if we win tonight you can pretty much hand KU the Big 12 Trophy now
prock
02-08-2010, 05:13 PM
if we win tonight you can pretty much hand KU the Big 12 Trophy now
ive been saying texas was overrated all season, and once the jayhawks beat them by 13 tonight, people will finally start agreeing with me.
superman8456
02-08-2010, 05:17 PM
Nova has to step it up tonight. Looking to rebound that loss with a huge win, let's go!
princefielder28
02-08-2010, 08:53 PM
Kansas playing well so far and Texas looks just awful
yo123
02-08-2010, 08:56 PM
Texas is way too talented to be playing this horrible offensively. They need to get it into Pittman more.
thenewfeature06
02-08-2010, 08:58 PM
Even coach bobby knight said we are rebuilding and since the ncaa is driven by guard play we don't have enough of that to contend..its obvious.
PalmerToCJ
02-08-2010, 08:59 PM
Texas is awful in the 1st half and they're obviously only proving it now.
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 09:05 PM
UT should thank god for Damion James because this score would be UGLY w/o him
yo123
02-08-2010, 09:08 PM
Even coach bobby knight said we are rebuilding and since the ncaa is driven by guard play we don't have enough of that to contend..its obvious.
Again, you're North Carolina. If you don't think you're guards are going to be good enough recruit some better ones.
How often does Duke have years like this? Pretty much never.
yo123
02-08-2010, 09:09 PM
As horrible as Texas was in that first half Kansas is letting them stay in the game. They need to put them away.
princefielder28
02-08-2010, 09:13 PM
Even coach bobby knight said we are rebuilding and since the ncaa is driven by guard play we don't have enough of that to contend..its obvious.
use the excuses if that makes you feel better about their performance so far this season, but i can guarantee that you were expecting nothing less than a tourney appearance this season and if you were lucky enough that you could make a deep run.
Even coach bobby knight said we are rebuilding and since the ncaa is driven by guard play we don't have enough of that to contend..its obvious.
A rebuilding year for Carolina should be a second to fourth place conference finish and a 3 to 7 seed. 2-6 in conference and missing the tournament is completely unacceptable.
703SKINS202
02-08-2010, 09:15 PM
West Virginia really needs to find their identity on offense, I'm tired of this ****.
thenewfeature06
02-08-2010, 09:19 PM
use the excuses if that makes you feel better about their performance so far this season, but i can guarantee that you were expecting nothing less than a tourney appearance this season and if you were lucky enough that you could make a deep run.
You are right about nothing less than a tourney appearance but a deep run? ..i was thinking more of 2nd or 3 round loss
yo123
02-08-2010, 09:42 PM
And Texas comes out firing with 8 points in the first 8 minutes....this is just sad.
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 09:42 PM
man if we could shut down James we'd be killing UT
yo123
02-08-2010, 09:47 PM
man if we could shut down James we'd be killing UT
Well you can say this about most teams and their best player.
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 09:53 PM
this is as good as KU has played in awhile
MetSox17
02-08-2010, 10:10 PM
Texas has looked pathetic tonight. J'Covan Brown is scared of contact, and we can't play team defense worth a ****.
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 10:12 PM
bs call on Aldrich
tjsunstein
02-08-2010, 10:12 PM
Aldrich doesn't look like he cared one bit about that foul.
yo123
02-08-2010, 10:13 PM
Morningstar just failed as hard as you possibly can shooting a free throw.
tjsunstein
02-08-2010, 10:14 PM
They really want a Texas comeback. As do I.
yo123
02-08-2010, 10:15 PM
Texas has looked pathetic tonight. J'Covan Brown is scared of contact, and we can't play team defense worth a ****.
I like Brown a lot, his numbers don't show it at all but you can tell he has skills. I think he'll be a 15 PPG scorer by the time he's a senior.
And how is this game still so close?
tjsunstein
02-08-2010, 10:16 PM
You can't make that mistake. Traveling, really? Got ahead of himself.
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 10:19 PM
come on KU FINISH!!!!!!!!!
yo123
02-08-2010, 10:21 PM
Jordan Hamilton is such a chucker. Absolutely horrible shot selection.
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 10:23 PM
dang it don't foul!!!!!!!!keep the clock running
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 10:26 PM
Tyshawn Taylor you are a moron
MetSox17
02-08-2010, 10:29 PM
Jordan Hamilton is such a chucker. Absolutely horrible shot selection.
He has done that all game. Earlier he shot a 35 ft three pointer with 20 seconds on the shot clock...
He needs to grow up and learn the game. The rest of the team needs to learn how to rebound, Kansas got a ton of second chance opportunities. This team is as talented as any in the country, but man they need some chemistry.
T-RICH49
02-08-2010, 10:30 PM
Rooooooooooock Chaaaaaaaaaalk Jaaaaaaaaaay Haaaaaawk Kkkkkkkkuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!
PalmerToCJ
02-09-2010, 12:06 AM
Yeah, the chemistry of Texas just looks awful. It's like they're playing a pickup game at times.
With that said, J'Covan Brown was definitely a bright spot. Seems like Texas is just really out of sync now, seems like it might take a while to get things turned around if they even do.
MetSox17
02-09-2010, 12:10 AM
Yeah, the chemistry of Texas just looks awful. It's like they're playing a pickup game at times.
With that said, J'Covan Brown was definitely a bright spot. Seems like Texas is just really out of sync now, seems like it might take a while to get things turned around if they even do.
Yep. J'Covan needs to be the #1 PG. Bradley needs to step up his offensive game, and Hamilton needs to learn how to not be a dumbass. James is a beast as always, and Pittman does what he can in the post when he isn't doubled and tripled like he was tonight. Got a lot of learning to do if they wanna make a deep tourney run.
adschofield
02-09-2010, 12:11 AM
Yeah, Texas played like garbage. Kansas and 'Cuse continue to show that they're a notch above the rest...
yo123
02-09-2010, 12:26 AM
Yeah, Texas played like garbage. Kansas and 'Cuse continue to show that they're a notch above the rest...
Any reason why you don't include Kentucky in that group?
SeanTaylorRIP
02-09-2010, 07:57 AM
Texas's problem is an absolute lack of depth in the front court. Damion James most games has to man it alone. Pittman either gets in foul trouble or has to sit down for a breather although I was impressed with how hard and long he played last night. Gary Johnson is a scrapper but against teams with bigger and more athletic guys he is like a guard playing down low. As strong and athletic James is it's sad how he has to guard centers like Cole. James really is one of the most versatile defenders in the nation but he doesn't have the size to hold ground against true centers. Also Texas is too young in their guard play. Bradley and Brown are too up and down offensively. Also Balbay as great as he is as a defender has has become inept on offense. Teams realize that you don't have to guard him. I understand him not having confidence to shoot jumpers but he doesn't even try to finish inside anymore so defenses can now just play him for the pass wherever he is on the court since he is afraid to even take a layup.
We know the top 3 teams in the nation, but IMO Georgetown has a team which has as good as a chance as any to win the tourny. Really I think that aside from depth issues they have the elements to be great. Greg Monroe is one of the top big men in the country and more importantly is the smartest big man in the country. He doesn't get in foul trouble and passes like a point guard. Chris Wright and Austin Freeman along with Jason Clark is one of the top backcourts in the country. Freeman is shooting 3's lights out and Wright is a threat to finish inside every play. I really think if they hit rhythm by tourny time they are dangerous as hell. Everyone knows their role and does it on a nightly basis. Austin Freeman has taken 71 threes this year and is making 50% of them. Jason Clark is shooting 47% from the 3point line. Chris Wright is shooting 50% from the field even though he's the leading shot taker on this team. It will be interesting to watch Greg Monroe at the end of the season. If he doesn't declare that will probably mean he's spending 4 years and college and this team would return every player from this year along with a pair of great recruits. I'm fairly certain that Iverson, Jeff Green, and DaJuan Summers are the only Hoyas in the school history to declare early for the NBA draft. Monroe could be the next great 4 year big man.
prock
02-09-2010, 05:52 PM
ive been saying texas was overrated all season, and once the jayhawks beat them by 13 tonight, people will finally start agreeing with me.
I'm pretty god damn good! One point off!
TitanHope
02-09-2010, 06:21 PM
WTF Basketvols? Show up!
PalmerToCJ
02-09-2010, 06:35 PM
Any reason why you don't include Kentucky in that group?
He hates Calipari. It's pretty obviously UK/KU/'Cuse at the top.
Tennessee seems to be coming off that whole emotional stretch where they were playing so tight and winning games. Vandy is a REALLY tough place to play but this is looking pretty bad.
Damion James is a monster. I thought that even when he was with Durant and Augustine.
I'm curious to see how G'Town does in a potential letdown game.
thenewfeature06
02-09-2010, 07:22 PM
Bruce Pearl makes me want to kill myself..and wow Vandys court is insane how the benches are on the baselines.
TitanHope
02-09-2010, 07:34 PM
Bruce Pearl makes me want to kill myself..and wow Vandys court is insane how the benches are on the baselines.
Uh, why?
UT's defense is embarrassing.
P.S. Refs suck!
thenewfeature06
02-09-2010, 07:36 PM
His orange jacket basically and the way he whines about all these calls along with his undiscliplined players..
Boston
02-09-2010, 07:50 PM
Why the **** is Wisconsin shooting so many threes. Run the ******* offense and drive the ball to the hoop.
TitanHope
02-09-2010, 07:53 PM
His orange jacket basically and the way he whines about all these calls along with his undiscliplined players..
So you don't like him because he wears a jacket that matches the team's color, and complains about calls that he disagrees with that go against his "undisciplined" players, which is the exact same thing every other coach in basketball does. That's quite a redeeming and insightful standpoint you have there.
MidwayMonster31
02-09-2010, 07:55 PM
This could be one of those years where a 3 or 4 can win it. There are so many boom or bust teams this year. Kansas, Syracuse and Kentucky are the only teams that stand out. I would say that Syracuse is the best team right now, but who the hell knows by March.
BTW, Illinois is about to knock off Wisconsin in Madison.
thenewfeature06
02-09-2010, 08:00 PM
First of all you are a fan of UT... and I am not a fan of the "matching my teams jersey color" and its one thing to disagree on the occasional call but everytime they show him he is complaining and UT has been in the news both basketball AND football programs for players acting like thugs its ridiculous.
KCJ58
02-09-2010, 08:07 PM
had $20 on Vandy over the Vols feeling pretty good, free dub sack tonight!
TitanHope
02-09-2010, 08:24 PM
First of all you are a fan of UT... and I am not a fan of the "matching my teams jersey color" and its one thing to disagree on the occasional call but everytime they show him he is complaining and UT has been in the news both basketball AND football programs for players acting like thugs its ridiculous.
I am a UT fan, yet you seem to be the more biased one - I'm just defending an out of left field remark from an ACC fan.
Complaining about fouls is something every coach does, and I don't think he does it as constantly as you make it out. But he's a fiery, emotional coach, so expect him to be on his feet and talkin' throughout the game.
As for the arrests and stuff, all guilty parties involved have been expelled from the programs and guilty by association players were suspended until proven innocent - but I guess expulsion and suspension until proven innocent aren't enough discipline for your standards. Besides that, comparative to other programs, especially in football, the frequency of arrests weren't as "ridiculous" as you make it out to be. The basketball incident is bigger because it involved 4 players, which make out a bigger percentage of the basketball team than the 3 players from the football team. Nevertheless, Pearl took full responsibility for his players' actions, and in the end kicked off Tyler Smith, his best player, and suspended 3 other significant contributors leaving his team severely depleted. It's unacceptable that his players got caught with drugs and alcohol (though I guess college kids doing weed and drinking makes them thugs nowadays, but whatever), but Pearl's discipline of the players and handling of the situation was just fine.
The jacket thing is your opinion. I like it personally, but I get why others may think it's obnoxious. I think it's stupid and petty to think less of Pearl because he wears it, but again, it's your opinion.
tjsunstein
02-09-2010, 10:05 PM
This Michigan State - Purdue game is insane.
adschofield
02-09-2010, 11:49 PM
He hates Calipari. It's pretty obviously UK/KU/'Cuse at the top.
Tennessee seems to be coming off that whole emotional stretch where they were playing so tight and winning games. Vandy is a REALLY tough place to play but this is looking pretty bad.
Damion James is a monster. I thought that even when he was with Durant and Augustine.
I'm curious to see how G'Town does in a potential letdown game.
Not at all. I have no major problem with Calipari. He's a bit of an obnoxious asshole, but he's a winner, and I know I would have no problem with the guy if he was coaching the Hawks.
I have a couple of problems with Kentucky. First, they're young and haven't had to deal with adversity, which they will inevitably face in March. Second, they've played a joke of a schedule as they played no one in the Kenpom Top 20. And I just don't think their perimeter shooting and defense are at of level that of a top 3 team. They're talented, but I think Kansas and Syracuse are just a notch above. And the Kenpom rankings agree with me.
yo123
02-10-2010, 09:49 PM
Duke/Carolina is on and not one post about it. That's just depressing.
PalmerToCJ
02-10-2010, 10:00 PM
UK is so rough in the KenPom (which is the best statistical ranking site around) because their margin of victory early in the season wasn't that great because the team wasn't very good in November/Early December. A lot of Pomeroy's rankings is assisted by margin of victory to not simply punish you for playing a weak SOS (like the RPI). They are finally starting to win by the margin you would expect but that's because of the large improvements made. That rough start (given all the new players) is what hinders the kenpom rating.
Duke-Carolina is the biggest rivalry in the history of the world according to ESPN but I don't think a ton of people care about it other than them. It's not any better than many of the other rivalries, it's just ESPN hypes it like no other because it's on ESPN.
I've been watching Nebraska-Baylor. I'm a big fan of watching Big 12 games.
yo123
02-10-2010, 10:31 PM
Nah, Duke/UNC is the best rivalry in sports. Once the Tar Heels get a respectable team again people will pay attention again.
Fogartynyy2789
02-10-2010, 10:45 PM
Duke/Carolina is on and not one post about it. That's just depressing.
That's what happens when you have one team with a bunch of overhyped McDonald's All-Americans who have shown zero growth and who look lost 95% of the time, and another team that has absolutely zero flash. Seriously, Duke would be perfect for the Big 10.
bored of education
02-10-2010, 10:46 PM
Evan Turner is awesome.
fischbowl
02-10-2010, 10:53 PM
******' scare today.
yo123
02-10-2010, 11:03 PM
Evan Turner is awesome.
Truer words have never been spoken. Best player in the nation.
Ohio State's Big 10 record without him- 0-2
With him- 9-1
PalmerToCJ
02-10-2010, 11:30 PM
New Mexico is going to do some damage in the tournament...
Notredameleo
02-11-2010, 09:36 AM
Apparently Rick Pitino is interested in the Nets....ugh....would they be interested in him?
adschofield
02-11-2010, 09:46 AM
That's what happens when you have one team with a bunch of overhyped McDonald's All-Americans who have shown zero growth and who look lost 95% of the time, and another team that has absolutely zero flash. Seriously, Duke would be perfect for the Big 10.
Lol wut? Duke's style is the antithesis of Big 10 Basketball...They're one of the least physical teams around...
prock
02-11-2010, 10:03 AM
Evan Turner is awesome.
David Kahn agrees. Hopefully.
tjsunstein
02-11-2010, 10:03 AM
http://cjonline.com/files/editorial/images/additional/94/spt031209ksutexas2.jpg
This thread needs more Jacob Pullen.
T-RICH49
02-11-2010, 12:42 PM
http://cjonline.com/files/editorial/images/additional/94/spt031209ksutexas2.jpg
This thread needs more Jacob Pullen.
not as much as it needs more:
http://trueball.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/draft_090311_sherron_collins1.jpg
TitleTown088
02-11-2010, 01:41 PM
Duke-Carolina is the biggest rivalry in the history of the world according to ESPN but I don't think a ton of people care about it other than them. It's not any better than many of the other rivalries, it's just ESPN hypes it like no other because it's on ESPN.
It's not just ESPN, Duke-UNC is the biggest rivalry to any objective person who isn't trying to put a UK rivalry on par with it. ;)
Sharon Collins should play football with that build.
iowatreat54
02-11-2010, 03:24 PM
Don't look now, but Iowa is one win away from double digits!!!! WOOOOO!!!
I hope we can beat Northwestern again in a couple games and ruin their chance to make the tourny.
PalmerToCJ
02-11-2010, 06:03 PM
It's not just ESPN, Duke-UNC is the biggest rivalry to any objective person who isn't trying to put a UK rivalry on par with it. ;)
Sharon Collins should play football with that build.
Honestly, if you ask me XU-UC is the best rivalry going, they have had some amazing games and the intensity is just through the roof. And it is mostly ESPN on Duke-UNC, they wet themselves over a perfect storm of east coast rivalry and ACC (which was their first big television deal). So no, I'm not trying to put UK-UL on the same level given I'm putting a Big East-A10 rivalry ahead of it.
When was the last good game between Duke-UNC? 5 years ago? Not to mention I always feel like when the teams play twice a year it waters things down a little bit. Granted if both teams are top 10 it's not so bad.
And Iowatreat... I'm PO'd at your team. I mean seriously, Northwestern -3.5 was easy money and I never take road favorites lol. Even when they were down 12 early I thought things would be good.
PalmerToCJ
02-11-2010, 06:14 PM
This Louisville-St. John's game is as sloppy as they get. Plus there's about 10 people in the Garden to watch.
Tonight my money is on Valpo +7.5 @ Cleveland St..... Unfortunately there aren't any Big 12 games for me to bet on haha.
JRTPlaya21
02-11-2010, 06:18 PM
So Duke beat UNC. I wish I was really excited....I watched like 5 minutes then went out. The game really loses its luster when UNC is God awful and Duke is mediocre. Oh well still content with victory finally.
TitleTown088
02-11-2010, 07:47 PM
Honestly, if you ask me XU-UC is the best rivalry going, they have had some amazing games and the intensity is just through the roof. And it is mostly ESPN on Duke-UNC, they wet themselves over a perfect storm of east coast rivalry and ACC (which was their first big television deal). So no, I'm not trying to put UK-UL on the same level given I'm putting a Big East-A10 rivalry ahead of it.
When was the last good game between Duke-UNC? 5 years ago? Not to mention I always feel like when the teams play twice a year it waters things down a little bit. Granted if both teams are top 10 it's not so bad.
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The point isn't which one has had the best games lately. The point has Duke-UNC is the best rivalry overall for a long time. Probably two of the top 5 programs of all time within 8 miles doesn't get beat out because XU-UC has had some amazing games lately
Man, the Gophers are difficult to watch.
yo123
02-11-2010, 08:04 PM
The point isn't which one has had the best games lately. The point has Duke-UNC is the best rivalry overall for a long time. Probably two of the top 5 programs of all time within 8 miles doesn't get beat out because XU-UC has had some amazing games lately
Man, the Gophers are difficult to watch.
You just like going out of your way to rip on every Minnesota team don't you? Difficult to watch? I prefer completely and entirely average. We have beaten 2 top 15 teams this year. But yeah, losing at home to Michigan just can't happen.
PalmerToCJ
02-11-2010, 08:22 PM
Man, the Gophers are difficult to watch.
We may disagree with the rivalry thing but I can agree with this. Mostly because it's like watching UK in Tubby's last few years. Offensively it's just brutal. I do hope he gets things rolling up there and I'm surprised with their struggles this season.
yo123
02-11-2010, 08:29 PM
It's weird that you say we're brutal offensively because we lead the Big 10 in scoring, are 2nd in FG percentage and 1st in 3 point percentage. We just play incredibly stupid basketball.
PalmerToCJ
02-11-2010, 09:13 PM
Every game that I have seen was in the low-mid 60's. They scored a ton in the OOC, I know that but in Big 10 play I haven't seen them putting up even close to the same numbers. There are definitely a lot of similarities with his later year UK teams, they made their fair share of dumb mistakes.
prock
02-11-2010, 09:28 PM
You just like going out of your way to rip on every Minnesota team don't you? Difficult to watch? I prefer completely and entirely average. We have beaten 2 top 15 teams this year. But yeah, losing at home to Michigan just can't happen.
Yeah, the Gophers are difficult to watch, though. They play good defense and their offense is putrid.
TitleTown088
02-11-2010, 10:15 PM
You just like going out of your way to rip on every Minnesota team don't you? Difficult to watch? I prefer completely and entirely average. We have beaten 2 top 15 teams this year. But yeah, losing at home to Michigan just can't happen.
Uh, I'm a Gopher fan ( and Twins and Wild). They are difficult to watch because they piss me off.
yo123
02-11-2010, 10:24 PM
Yeah, the Gophers are difficult to watch, though. They play good defense and their offense is putrid.
As I said in my previous post, we lead the Big10 in scoring. Offense isn't the problem. Our defense is very overrated, people just assume that because we have a lot of good athletes that we're good defensively but that doesn't matter when you have a team full of morons. I'd say the only real good defenders on the team are Damian Johnson, Ralph Sampson, Justin Cobbs and Nolen before he got suspended.
yo123
02-12-2010, 12:20 PM
As if North Carolina's season wasn't bad enough already....
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4908535
PalmerToCJ
02-12-2010, 10:23 PM
Penn beat Cornell by double digits, most mind blowing upset of the season if you ask me. Cornell was ranked 22nd and Penn had just earned their 3rd win against Dartmouth the week before.
Some really good early games tomorrow.
Really good one now WVU @ Pitt. 23 seconds to go WVU down 2 with the ball. Here comes Da'Sean Butler... If it's not him taking the shot whoever does take one should be kicked off the team lol.
EDIT: So maybe I just jinxed him but that shot was like 70% in.
2nd EDIT: WOW what a shot, here comes 2nd OT.
bored of education
02-12-2010, 10:27 PM
wow sick game
damn Siena got smoked tonight
Palmer...Buckeyes vs. the Illini..who you got
Scotty D
02-12-2010, 10:35 PM
This Pitt-WVU game is awesome, wheres Kevin Pittsnogle when you need him?
Holy crap. I'm hoping for OT3 though.
EDIT: which it will be.
PalmerToCJ
02-12-2010, 10:47 PM
Wow... This game is definitely a good one.
Ill-OSU is definitely the game of the day on Sunday. Hard to say really. If it was at OSU I'd be all over the Buckeyes but given it's at Assembly it's a coin toss. OSU's road record isn't good but I think at least a few of those losses was when Turner was hurt which are really throw away games. Illinois just came off two big wins which makes me think this is setting up to be a letdown type game, especially with how OSU is playing. With a gun to my head I'd go OSU. Should be a good game, probably not quite this Pitt-WVU game though haha.
Ohio State should win. They are clearly the better team. However the same was true for Michigan State and Wisconsin. That would be an extremely impressive run if they could knock off all three in a row. Illinois will fall back to reality eventually, just not exactly sure when that happens. I'll take OSU to start that fall on Sunday.
bored of education
02-12-2010, 11:01 PM
I think OSU rolls easily. But I want to bear Evan Turner's children
yo123
02-13-2010, 12:52 AM
Ohio State is Evan Turner and nothing else. Buford is ok I guess. Illinois is the overall better team in my opinion, Demetri McCamey is a stud, most underrated player in the conference
KCJ58
02-13-2010, 05:12 AM
great game back yard brawl
PalmerToCJ
02-13-2010, 01:38 PM
Rupp was nuts today for Gameday, I love it.
Looks like UCONN is all but out of the tournament.
I expected Duke to beat Maryland given they're at home but not as much as they're beating them by right now.
Vandy is losing to LSU at half at home which is just mind blowing.
Jason Bohannon has 7 three pointers and 30 points total as the Badgers are destroying Indiana.
StripedWalrus
02-13-2010, 10:08 PM
UK played a great second half tonight. First half was not good.
sweetness34
02-13-2010, 10:56 PM
Ohio State should win. They are clearly the better team. However the same was true for Michigan State and Wisconsin. That would be an extremely impressive run if they could knock off all three in a row. Illinois will fall back to reality eventually, just not exactly sure when that happens. I'll take OSU to start that fall on Sunday.
Ohio State is not clearly the better team. Evan Turner is the best player in the country and makes that team go, but across the board the talent level is pretty damn even.
With that said, we don't usually play well at Ohio State. I'm just hoping for a good effort. We've got a brutal stretch of games.
tjsunstein
02-14-2010, 01:52 PM
Pretty dominant performance by Ohio State.
As for 'Cuse, they really let up and took bad shots to this point. They can't seem to penetrate the Louisville defense and twice they've brought the shot clock down to the final seconds and settled for bad three attempts by Johnson.
yo123
02-14-2010, 04:58 PM
Ohio State is Evan Turner and nothing else. Buford is ok I guess. Illinois is the overall better team in my opinion, Demetri McCamey is a stud, most underrated player in the conference
Well what the hell do I know right? I still think Illinois is a more balanced team, they are just horribly inconsistent.
scottyboy
02-14-2010, 05:26 PM
Rutgers just beat #8 Georgetown. No big deal
tjsunstein
02-14-2010, 05:56 PM
Rutgers just beat #8 Georgetown. No big deal
I saw you posted in this thread and knew exactly what it would be about. 3-9 in the Big East, however. Not too good. Good win for the seniors, I guess.
yo123
02-14-2010, 06:17 PM
The Gophers are a damn embarrassment. Just gtfo all of you.
scottyboy
02-14-2010, 06:23 PM
I saw you posted in this thread and knew exactly what it would be about. 3-9 in the Big East, however. Not too good. Good win for the seniors, I guess.
Let's just say if Fred Hill never ever came back, nobody would care. Nice win, we've got a lot of young talent. DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME!
Forenci
02-14-2010, 10:54 PM
Let's just say if Fred Hill never ever came back, nobody would care. Nice win, we've got a lot of young talent. DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME!
Sorry. Rutgers basketball is still a joke. Please stop bringing down the Big East.
scottyboy
02-14-2010, 11:08 PM
Sorry. Rutgers basketball is still a joke. Please stop bringing down the Big East.
SHUT UP! you gave the NBA Josh Boone! YOU FAIL!
and stop bringing down the big east football
actually, with Mitchell, Miller and Rosario, we've got some nice young talent, but Fred Hill is one of the WORST coaches I've ever seen. He's just putrid.
thenewfeature06
02-14-2010, 11:16 PM
So Duke beat UNC. I wish I was really excited....I watched like 5 minutes then went out. The game really loses its luster when UNC is God awful and Duke is mediocre. Oh well still content with victory finally.
We actually played with them the majority of the game but didn't finish and slim eddy broke his wrist in that game.
Giantsfan1080
02-14-2010, 11:21 PM
SHUT UP! you gave the NBA Josh Boone! YOU FAIL!
and stop bringing down the big east football
actually, with Mitchell, Miller and Rosario, we've got some nice young talent, but Fred Hill is one of the WORST coaches I've ever seen. He's just putrid.
It's a shame Echenique is transferring.
derza222
02-15-2010, 07:40 PM
If only 'Nova could defend...UConn is playing a great game. This would be a really tough loss.
Only makes perfect sense that UCONN handles 'Nova as soon as I get rid of my Stanley Robinson sig :(
PalmerToCJ
02-15-2010, 08:35 PM
UCONN seems to only want to play good teams...
T-RICH49
02-15-2010, 10:30 PM
SHerron Collins only hits 2 shots and KU STILL finds ways to win.11-0 and 25-1
iowatreat54
02-16-2010, 08:56 PM
Way to walkoff the court in the middle of an opposing player shooting FTs at the end of the half.
Stay classy, Michigan.
yo123
02-16-2010, 09:56 PM
Mississippi State up 1 on Kentucky with 4:30 left. Varnardo just fouled out though.
It seems like 75% of the shots Mississippi State takes are threes.
T-RICH49
02-16-2010, 10:41 PM
Refs handed it to UK in OT...that was a screw job at it's finest
StripedWalrus
02-16-2010, 10:42 PM
Mississippi State up 1 on Kentucky with 4:30 left. Varnardo just fouled out though.
It seems like 75% of the shots Mississippi State takes are threes.
Game ended pretty good. State was up by 7 at one point but Kentucky reversed it well. UK came in clutch in OT and won it.
Got to say though, Mississippi state fans are rather poor sports...your team put up a good fight against Kentucky...no need to tarnish a great basketball game by throwing hissy fits at the end.
StripedWalrus
02-16-2010, 10:42 PM
Refs handed it to UK in OT...that was a screw job at it's finest
how so?????
T-RICH49
02-16-2010, 10:50 PM
how so?????
they were fine til OT...the calls against MSU in OT were embarassing.guy gets all ball and gets called, Patterson charged but a block is called and let's not forget the unbelievbly blown goaltending call.the refs were so pro-UK it's not funny
yo123
02-16-2010, 10:51 PM
they were fine til OT...the calls against MSU in OT were embarassing.guy gets all ball and gets called, Patterson charged but a block is called and let's not forget the unbelievbly blown goaltending call.the refs were so pro-UK it's not funny
The goaltending call was missed but it was not unbelievably blown at all. The ball hit the backboard like .01 seconds before Wall hit it. The other two calls were pretty bad though.
PalmerToCJ
02-16-2010, 11:53 PM
I suppose KU didn't get any favorable calls vs. TAMU?
The goaltending was obviously missed but not like it was clear cut in regular speed. The charge on Cousins and block on Patterson both went our way, no lies on that.. Especially the charge, there wouldn't have been any complaints from me had that been called the other way. The blatant one was with 3.5 left when it went off UK and they gave us the ball. Granted, the game was over but awful call.
Very happy to get out of there with a W, knew this one (nor Saturday) would be easy.
PalmerToCJ
02-17-2010, 12:01 AM
Patterson, Wall and Cousins all had double doubles... That's crazy.
StripedWalrus
02-17-2010, 12:13 AM
they were fine til OT...the calls against MSU in OT were embarassing.guy gets all ball and gets called, Patterson charged but a block is called and let's not forget the unbelievbly blown goaltending call.the refs were so pro-UK it's not funny
The Patterson Charge/block at first was a 50/50...the announcers thought the same until it went to replay then they changed their minds. Thats how it goes. The Goaltending happened so fast you could barely see it at all without a replay. It was a GOaltend but it didnt get called. What really hurt MSU was their top two guys getting out on fouls and their nothing but 3 shots.
PalmerToCJ
02-17-2010, 12:18 AM
I could've punched a baby when that 3 got banked in. Same thing Sundiata Gaines did TWICE at Georgia a few years ago, after that one I just felt like the game was doomed.
Glad to have this win. I had this week circled when the schedule came out for how tough it would be. If they can get out of Vandy with another win I'd be very impressed.
EDIT: Walrus, what did you think of Liggins being out there late in the game? I really liked it. He's been huge lately on defense and knows where to pick his spots on offense. Last season I was wondering how he was a top 25 recruit now it seems pretty obvious. The 3 was HUGE.
adschofield
02-17-2010, 12:32 AM
I suppose KU didn't get any favorable calls vs. TAMU?
The goaltending was obviously missed but not like it was clear cut in regular speed. The charge on Cousins and block on Patterson both went our way, no lies on that.. Especially the charge, there wouldn't have been any complaints from me had that been called the other way. The blatant one was with 3.5 left when it went off UK and they gave us the ball. Granted, the game was over but awful call.
Very happy to get out of there with a W, knew this one (nor Saturday) would be easy.
Actually, KU vs. TAMU was really one of the only games where I can say we legit got the shaft when it came to officiating...The referee crew that did that game is pretty much to have out for KU and Self.
That goaltending call was so obvious.
PalmerToCJ
02-17-2010, 12:36 AM
I thought the first half went KU's way, the 2nd half was very fair. I was mostly blown away when Aldrich took the one dude out of the game and there was a no call.
Referee's aren't perfect. Everyone always thinks the favorite team was given the game because we all just naturally root for the underdog if it's not against our own team.
I guess really I'm saying it's hard to base an entire game on 3 calls, although as I said the Cousins one was huge and easily could've gone the other way.
StripedWalrus
02-17-2010, 12:50 AM
I could've punched a baby when that 3 got banked in. Same thing Sundiata Gaines did TWICE at Georgia a few years ago, after that one I just felt like the game was doomed.
Glad to have this win. I had this week circled when the schedule came out for how tough it would be. If they can get out of Vandy with another win I'd be very impressed.
EDIT: Walrus, what did you think of Liggins being out there late in the game? I really liked it. He's been huge lately on defense and knows where to pick his spots on offense. Last season I was wondering how he was a top 25 recruit now it seems pretty obvious. The 3 was HUGE.
Im really liking Liggins out there. He has come a long way this season...started out with 0 play time and now he is practically a starter. Its been great since Miller has been really stale and Dodson is hit or miss. He may not have had 10+ points but like you said that 3 was huge and he has been able to do that lately. I really think he will be big his Junior and Senior Years.
PalmerToCJ
02-17-2010, 11:00 AM
Purdue-OSU is tonight but I have freaking school... I'm going to be going crazy. That should be a battle.
BuckNaked
02-17-2010, 11:23 AM
Im really liking Liggins out there. He has come a long way this season...started out with 0 play time and now he is practically a starter. Its been great since Miller has been really stale and Dodson is hit or miss. He may not have had 10+ points but like you said that 3 was huge and he has been able to do that lately. I really think he will be big his Junior and Senior Years.
Yeah I've actually been really impressed by Liggins lately. He's been asserting himself much more in basically every facet of his game. That three was huge, but he did chuck up a bad three with time on the clock right after. I thought Miller played a good game as well though, he seemed much more aggressive with taking it to the hole. I feel like Dodson, outside of his three point shooting, honestly hurts us on most other fronts. He can't really handle the ball much at all and doesn't seem to be quick on his feet, which leads to him getting beat on D and not being able to drive much on offense.
PalmerToCJ
02-17-2010, 08:36 PM
This Louisville-ND game is an absolute battle.
yo123
02-17-2010, 08:45 PM
Dribble with your head up Abromitis you dumbass. There was a guy wide open under the basket.
MiWolves
02-17-2010, 08:46 PM
So... you know that #1 play on Sportscenter.. that was against my school it was probably the best shot I've ever seen in my life.
PalmerToCJ
02-17-2010, 10:16 PM
Dribble with your head up Abromitis you dumbass. There was a guy wide open under the basket.
That was so incredibly awful. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a guy have actual control of the ball and not get a shot off. Amazingly horrible.
T-RICH49
02-17-2010, 10:18 PM
WTH has happened to UT?
adschofield
02-18-2010, 07:35 PM
WTH has happened to UT?
Balbay happened. They seriously need to start J'Covan Brown. Like now.
BuckNaked
02-18-2010, 07:48 PM
Gtown on a roll here and got themselves right back in the game.
PalmerToCJ
02-18-2010, 08:02 PM
I thought Texas would actually have to talent to overcome Barnes being an awful coach, seems I was wrong. They're just a mess out there at times. Hard to believe a team could go from #1 in the middle of the season to possibly unranked this next week.
Syracuse-G'town is getting good.
PalmerToCJ
02-18-2010, 09:20 PM
I'm honestly glad Syracuse won. In terms of matchups, they're the team I think gives UK the most issues. The longer a potential matchup with them takes in the NCAA, the better. I am still a big believer in Georgetown.
Also glad Vandy won, even though they'll still play out of their minds Saturday at least they won't be coming off a loss. That should be a good game and a great test for UK, the atmosphere will be crazy.
Tomorrow night, Old Dominion plays at Northern Iowa. In terms of Mid-Major's, this is probably the game of the year. I actually like Old Dominion.
SeanTaylorRIP
02-18-2010, 09:25 PM
ODU beat Georgetown on the road. It's funny Georgetown has the most top 25 wins out of any team in the country, they just suck it bad against inferior competition. Every top team they'd played they have either won or played it close. I'm actually more scared of them being bounced in the first or second round than a sweet 16 game say against the 2 or 3 from the Big 10 or ACC.
PalmerToCJ
02-18-2010, 10:10 PM
Big win for Minnesota. If they could beat Purdue there might be a chance for the NCAA still.
I really like ODU in the tournament, just depends on the seeding. I hate when mid majors have the better seed, they're just built for that underdog role.
yo123
02-18-2010, 10:13 PM
Yesss!!!! Big win against Becky.
Just makes things like the blown lead to Northwestern more frustrating though, we have too much talent to be 15-10 right now.
Xiomera
02-19-2010, 12:46 AM
Any other fans of Summit League basketball?
Oakland University clinched the regular season title tonight over South Dakota State:
http://blog.mlive.com/golden_grizzlies_den/2010/02/ou_vs_sdsu_feb18.html
JRTPlaya21
02-20-2010, 11:53 AM
Don't know if posted already but Olek Czyz transferred to Nevada. And I almost went to ODU so hope the Monarchs can do well.
bored of education
02-20-2010, 12:27 PM
Seton Hall is coming back. OSU v. MSU tomorrow!
OSU needs to bounce back from the loss to Purdue
Xiomera
02-20-2010, 12:36 PM
For anyone in Michigan, I suggest you watch FSN Detroit at 6 pm to watch Oakland University win the outright conference championship tonight.
Extra incentive: You can see me sitting courtside at the media/scorers table.
PalmerToCJ
02-20-2010, 12:56 PM
Pretty solid choke job by West Virginia.
EDIT: Surprised they finished out as well as they did.
UNC loses AGAIN. They'll be lucky to finish over .500, still can't believe how much they've regressed.
T-RICH49
02-20-2010, 06:41 PM
anyone see Patterson slam the bal;l near the Vandy player on the ground?how was that not a T?
Bob Sanders Dreadlock
02-20-2010, 07:27 PM
John ****** Wall
Brodeur
02-20-2010, 07:27 PM
That was quite impressive John Wall-ness.
princefielder28
02-20-2010, 07:28 PM
That was quite impressive John Wall-ness.
it was sick but he's gotta make his throws
adschofield
02-20-2010, 07:30 PM
Vandy needs to be banned from basketball forever. You're shooting 10% on the three ball all night, and you decide to throw up a contested three when you're down 1. Are you effing kidding me?
T-RICH49
02-20-2010, 07:30 PM
Vandy needs to be banned from basketball forever. You're shooting 10% on the three ball all night, and you decide to throw up a contested three when you're down 1. Are you effing kidding me?
quoted for truth
Brodeur
02-20-2010, 07:31 PM
What a failure series of possessions for Vandy. God dammit.
adschofield
02-20-2010, 07:34 PM
In other news, the Pac-10 still plays basketball. I was a bit surprised myself when I heard it.
Oh...
And **** Stallings...
StripedWalrus
02-20-2010, 07:34 PM
That was quite impressive John Wall-ness.
Clutch defense! Wish I could say the same for the free throws though =). P. Pat played a great game too...that three he had turned it around.
PalmerToCJ
02-20-2010, 08:52 PM
You all shouldn't be so disappointed, UK won! :D
That was a sloppy physical game, that's for sure. I like those kinds of games.
Xiomera
02-20-2010, 09:05 PM
http://blog.mlive.com/golden_grizzlies_den/2010/02/ou_men_vs_ndsu_feb20.html
Read it. Or just click on it and say you read it.
PalmerToCJ
02-20-2010, 10:05 PM
Just wanted to mention that Patterson, Wall and Cousins are monsters. Patterson was a man today, Cousins cannot be stopped 1on1 and Wall kicks it into high gear when the game is on the line.
Anyway, the Utah State game is on at midnight. Easily the most entertaining crowd in the country, awesome college basketball atmosphere. Seriously, I love it.
Chant... Among other chants they come up with.
ARpzavb7PQk
Best Distracting guy, he was Peter Pan in their last game lol.
56syKDjxgLw
bored of education
02-20-2010, 10:30 PM
Just wanted to mention that Patterson, Wall and Cousins are monsters. Patterson was a man today, Cousins cannot be stopped 1on1 and Wall kicks it into high gear when the game is on the line.
Anyway, the Utah State game is on at midnight. Easily the most entertaining crowd in the country, awesome college basketball atmosphere. Seriously, I love it.
Chant... Among other chants they come up with.
ARpzavb7PQk
Best Distracting guy, he was Peter Pan in their last game lol.
56syKDjxgLw
some good bracket buster games today i think i hadnt stopped watching college hoops since noon
who you think gonna win tomorrow? osu or msu?
PalmerToCJ
02-20-2010, 10:41 PM
Today and even last night were just loaded with basketball games.
Seriously. Watched ODU-NI at work then Bill & Mary-Iona. Today was Siena-Butler, Northeastern-Louisiana Tech (LaTech is a solid team), Illinois-Purdue, UK-Vandy and watching Utah State-Witchita State at midnight. Had enough booze and food to last me a year haha, god I love college basketball.
Anyway, tomorrow is going to be another good one. Watching that one at work too. Assuming Lucas is near 100%, I gotta go MSU. Although with OSU losing at home, they might be ready to rock and besides the Purdue game, they've been on a roll. I'd seriously be surprised with under a minute left if it was a margin any more than 3 or 4 points.
bored of education
02-20-2010, 11:05 PM
Today and even last night were just loaded with basketball games.
Seriously. Watched ODU-NI at work then Bill & Mary-Iona. Today was Siena-Butler, Northeastern-Louisiana Tech (LaTech is a solid team), Illinois-Purdue, UK-Vandy and watching Utah State-Witchita State at midnight. Had enough booze and food to last me a year haha, god I love college basketball.
Anyway, tomorrow is going to be another good one. Watching that one at work too. Assuming Lucas is near 100%, I gotta go MSU. Although with OSU losing at home, they might be ready to rock and besides the Purdue game, they've been on a roll. I'd seriously be surprised with under a minute left if it was a margin any more than 3 or 4 points.
yeah the last few days been beastly i was watching Northeaster LaTech, sick game, I know the head coach of northeastern, awesome dude.
tomorrows game will be so sick!
http://blog.mlive.com/golden_grizzlies_den/2010/02/ou_men_vs_ndsu_feb20.html
Read it. Or just click on it and say you read it.
Wow, this whole time reading your posts about Oakland I thought you were PL. Then I clicked on the link and thought "who the hell is Dan Fenner, that's not PL's name".
Xiomera
02-21-2010, 09:48 AM
Wow, this whole time reading your posts about Oakland I thought you were PL. Then I clicked on the link and thought "who the hell is Dan Fenner, that's not PL's name".
I don't think P-L goes to Oakland anymore, haha.
I don't think P-L goes to Oakland anymore, haha.
Nope. I'm living in Florida.
KCJ58
02-21-2010, 12:36 PM
Bill Clark #30 for Duquense went to my High School he was baller, still is, I'm glad he's playing Div.1 College Basketball
yo123
02-21-2010, 12:38 PM
Michigan State/Ohio State is a good one. Really surprised Ohio State has been able to hold this lead with Turner shooting 4-14.
derza222
02-21-2010, 01:05 PM
Villanova's defensive rebounding has been absolutely atrocious. In line to drop significantly in next week's rankings, an unfortunate run with a tough game against 'Cuse coming up on Saturday. Tough to beat Pitt at Pitt, but still nothing a fan of a team wants to see.
Xiomera
02-21-2010, 01:30 PM
Nope. I'm living in Florida.
Were you in Michigan recently? I could have sworn I saw you driving in Rochester a couple weeks ago, haha.
bored of education
02-21-2010, 01:52 PM
Turner played terrible until the last 3 minutes. good win for the buckeyes
PalmerToCJ
02-21-2010, 03:28 PM
So I expected OSU to win vs. Purdue and lose at MSU but the opposite happened. I'm pretty much awful calling Big 10 games. About the only teams I'm half decent with are Wisconsin and Illinois.
Big win for OSU. Fairly disappointing loss for MSU mostly because OSU seemed to be in control the entire game (was in and out watching it at work).
bored of education
02-21-2010, 03:46 PM
So I expected OSU to win vs. Purdue and lose at MSU but the opposite happened. I'm pretty much awful calling Big 10 games. About the only teams I'm half decent with are Wisconsin and Illinois.
Big win for OSU. Fairly disappointing loss for MSU mostly because OSU seemed to be in control the entire game (was in and out watching it at work).
Yeah they won pretty handidly even with a pretty much atrocious game by Turner. But he was playing with flu like symptoms.
PalmerToCJ
02-22-2010, 01:54 PM
So the newest bracketology is out and I wish they would just freeze this and make it the actual bracket. This would play out beautifully for UK and the idea of beating UL twice in one season is just amazing.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Purdue would have a rough go in that set up.
yo123
02-22-2010, 02:58 PM
Yay we're back on the Bubble Watch! If we beat Purdue at home on Wednesday we have to be back in the bracket.
thenewfeature06
02-22-2010, 03:07 PM
Horrific year for us, most likely not even going to get in the tourney now, over the next 4 games we have FSU, @ Wake, Miami, and the finale @ Duke. Could realistically lose the next 4 games , so kind of just hoping we can make a run in the conference tournament. But without Davis I dont see it. :/ Much more excited about next year with the other class coming in, hopefully they live up to there rankings.
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