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bearsfan_51
05-14-2007, 02:49 PM
This isn't a suprise to any real Bears fans(especially after we drafted three defensive backs), but I figured it might spark some discussion in the NFL forum.

LAKE FOREST, Ill. – The Bears have added one of the NFL’s most electrifying playmakers to their offense without signing a free agent or making a trade.

Coach Lovie Smith revealed Monday that All-Pro return specialist Devin Hester will switch from defense to offense beginning with this weekend’s full-squad minicamp.


Devin Hester's 83-yard punt return TD gave the Bears a 24-23 win at Arizona last Oct. 16.
“I think Devin Hester is one of the most exciting players in the NFL with his hands on the football,” Smith said. “I think he would be an excellent defensive back also. We just feel that this is in the best interest of us and him for him to achieve his full potential as a football player.”

Hester will work with the wide receivers at minicamp, but he’s also expected to line up in the backfield at times and could be utilized like the New Orleans Saints’ Reggie Bush.

“Right now we’re not going to put any limits on it,” Smith said. “We have a new piece to the puzzle. We’re anxious to see what we can do with him and the role that he’ll develop into.

“There are a lot of different ways we can go. You can make a case for him being a slot receiver. You can make a case for him being a single receiver when we go to our two-tight end, two-running back packages. You can make a case for him from the running back position.

“He’s an offensive weapon right now. That’s the only limit we put on him.”

Hester starred at the University of Miami as a wide receiver, running back, cornerback and return specialist. He told the Bears that he wanted to play cornerback in the NFL much like his idol, Deion Sanders, and conceded that he had to be convinced to make the switch.

“We had several meetings until I just really said that there’s no ‘I’ in ‘team’ and however I can help the team I’m willing to do it,” Hester said.

“It’s going to be a great experience. I’m just going to go over there and try to give a little spark to the offense. There will be more opportunities to make big plays and I think it’s a great idea.”

Hester lined up on offense for one play in 2006, but he was unable to snare a low pass from Rex Grossman.

“He’s made it clear that defense is something that he’s always loved,” Smith said. “He’s also made it clear that he likes scoring touchdowns and this gives him the best opportunity. We can get his hands on the ball a few more times this way.”

As you might imagine, no one is more ecstatic about the move than offensive coordinator Ron Turner.

“I’ve been recruiting him for about 13 months and I finally got him,” Turner said.

“He’s an elite player when he gets the ball in his hands and I’m excited about the opportunity to help him get the ball in his hands, not just returning punts and kickoffs, which is a few times a game. Hopefully we can get it in his hands 5-6-7 times different ways—use him out of the backfield, as a receiver, in the slot.

“Definitely our creative juices will be flowing. We’re already talking about it and giving it some thought. Starting out we’re going to teach him the basics. We want him to learn the basics of running some of the routes and doing some of the things we’re doing in our offense. Then as he gets comfortable, we can find ways to get him the ball. As the season goes, we’re going to have to be more creative.”

Selected by the Bears in the second round of the 2006 draft, Hester was named All-Pro and voted to the Pro Bowl after setting an NFL record with six combined kick return touchdowns during the regular season.

He then became the first player in league history to return the opening kickoff in the Super Bowl for a TD, dashing 92 yards to give the Bears a 7-0 lead over the Indianapolis Colts.

Hester became just the sixth player in NFL history to return two kickoffs for touchdowns in a Monday night win at St. Louis. He also set team marks for punt return yards and TDs in a season and punt return and kickoff return yards in a game.

Switching Hester to offense after selecting tight end Greg Olsen and running back Garrett Wolfe on the first day of the draft gives the unit three new exciting playmakers.

“We’ve definitely added a little bit of firepower to our offense in the offseason,” Smith said. “There are only a few guys in the league who can make people miss and do the things [Hester] can do with the football.”

bored of education
05-14-2007, 02:52 PM
DH will be a new position listing, sorta like the designated hitter only that NFL teams will have a Devin Hester.

bearsfan_51
05-14-2007, 02:55 PM
The stuff out of the backfield really interests me. Our offense has gotten fast but quite a bit smaller at the same time. I guess they are hoping that Benson is enough meat and potatoes that they can mix it up with guys like Wolfe and Hester. Really Moose and Benson are the only two players on offense that aren't "speed guys".

SFbear
05-14-2007, 03:20 PM
I guess it was inevitable considering we're knee deep in young, raw DBs right now but I thought Wolfe would have filled the niche on offense that was imagined for Hester. I would have liked to see Hester work at Corner considering thats where his heart is and also I have much more faith in Defensive coaching staff developing young talent than I do Ron Turner.

I think people made too much about him getting burned by Holt and Wayne. Rookie corners get burned all the time and All Pro corners get burned by Holt and Wayne.

Should be fun to watch this year but I hope we don't get too gimmicky. I still want to see some healthy doses of Cedric Benson up the middle.

MaxV
05-14-2007, 03:36 PM
Great idea. I acctually thought they should've done this last year.

bigbluedefense
05-14-2007, 03:40 PM
Im curious to see if the offensive playbook will evolve away from the 2 TE set into a more iform, TE split wide type of offense.

Maybe more splitback looks?


I think they'll spread it out more compared to last year.

Achilles33
05-14-2007, 03:40 PM
Hopefully he won't be up to speed by week 3.....

Xonraider
05-14-2007, 03:42 PM
This gives them more versitality to run different formations with three running backs, etc.

bigbluedefense
05-14-2007, 03:44 PM
Ive been saying forever that Garrett Wollffe can be a great WR/RB hybrid if taught properly. I think he can be a poor man's reggie bush. Line him up wide on some plays, do reverses, fake reverses, run routes, 3rd down back etc.

I was hoping he'd fall to us in the 6th, I was stunned when the Bears took him in the 3rd. I didn't expect that at all. But I love the player, I think he'll be great.

Achilles33
05-14-2007, 03:48 PM
I don't know BBD, he is to slow IMO.

ncst8fan83
05-14-2007, 03:48 PM
U of M part 2. and people wonder why he's a jack of all trades, master of none. hope it works out for him, but he's got to at least start to get frustrated with this happening for the past 5 years or so.

lod01
05-14-2007, 03:51 PM
Ah yes. The stuff you hear at this time every year. Kinda like the vikings blabber about Peterson and Taylor in the backfield at the same time, etc. etc. He may play a little wide out for a while until they realize that he's just not good at it. Like Ted Ginn.

bigbluedefense
05-14-2007, 03:53 PM
I don't know BBD, he is to slow IMO.

He has a decent burst. Im not saying he'll be a all pro WR, but he can be a solid slot/pass catcher out of the backfield.

I think putting him on the field, what youre basically doing is trying to take advantage of mismatches. He may not be the fastest in the world, but he can still take advantage of a safety or LB on him. So if you use him in a hybrid role, he can still be productive. You have to use him in unique situations. He won't hold up as a RB. Moving him around like NO does with Bush is their best bet.

SFbear
05-14-2007, 04:02 PM
U of M part 2. and people wonder why he's a jack of all trades, master of none. hope it works out for him, but he's got to at least start to get frustrated with this happening for the past 5 years or so.

I think he has pretty much mastered Kick Returning.

Addict
05-14-2007, 04:12 PM
Let's see... DB with excellent return abiltity and stunning speed becomes a WR... sounds like someone I know from the past draft... Even though Ted Ginn did it coming into Ohio State, I think it does show that it's possible for a raw db to make a raw WR as well.

J52
05-14-2007, 04:18 PM
If only Hester had the mental competence to understand the playbook then this would be a good move.

bearsfan_51
05-14-2007, 04:19 PM
Ah yes. The stuff you hear at this time every year. Kinda like the vikings blabber about Peterson and Taylor in the backfield at the same time, etc. etc. He may play a little wide out for a while until they realize that he's just not good at it. Like Ted Ginn.
If Devin Hester can turn into a Ted Ginn type reciever he'll greatly exceed my expectations. I'd be happy if he made one big play per game.

sweetness34
05-14-2007, 04:44 PM
If only Hester had the mental competence to understand the playbook then this would be a good move.

Hester may not be the sharpest tool in the box but I'm pretty sure he'll get what to do on offense.

neko4
05-14-2007, 04:48 PM
Is he gonna be like a RB/WR tweener?

sweetness34
05-14-2007, 05:05 PM
Is he gonna be like a RB/WR tweener?

Right now I think he's a poor man's Reggie Bush, but as he learns what to do he'll be a very nice asset for us on offense.

SFbear
05-14-2007, 05:09 PM
So are we going to list him as a RB or WR. Cuz the league won't let him keep his number if he is going to be a WR.

sweetness34
05-14-2007, 05:11 PM
So are we going to list him as a RB or WR. Cuz the league won't let him keep his number if he is going to be a WR.

He'll stay a RB. Can't get rid of the #23, no way. It's a signature number in Chicago.

Go_Eagles77
05-14-2007, 05:27 PM
He'll stay a RB. Can't get rid of the #23, no way. It's a signature number in Chicago.

http://chud.com/nextraimages/number_twenty_three.jpg

awfullyquiet
05-14-2007, 06:32 PM
He'll stay a RB. Can't get rid of the #23, no way. It's a signature number in Chicago.

Or he can just play both ways. I wouldn't consider it impossible to have him as the 5th CB and just line up on offense a little more often.

He'll have a limited amount of plays to work through, he doesn't have to know the full offense, so, the fact that he may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, doesn't really bother me. he's a guy who WILL bounce to the outside, bounce back inside, and then keep bouncing, I don't know if he has the gas to do that forever. Wolfe will be a bounce once, push push push. and Benson is just. Show me the holes between the tackles. AAARRRRRGH!

But this offense is getting faster. And faster. And faster. Which is weird, because that totally doesn't seem like turner's offesive style. But, when you have weapons, you use them. I would be scared as hell to be manned up on Hester in the open field. The boy'll make two guys miss and still have enough acceleration to pull away. With great vision, great speed, good acceleration. He could make something happen out of nothing (or he can get tied up in the backfield and go for a big loss of yds)

jkpigskin
05-14-2007, 06:57 PM
not sure if hester will have as much impact on O than he had on special teams... it always seems like when these super athletic guys are put on offense, they are overhyped and dont meet those lofty expectations

-ie. bailey, sanders, woodson

sweetness34
05-14-2007, 06:58 PM
not sure if hester will have as much impact on O than he had on special teams... it always seems like when these super athletic guys are put on offense, they are overhyped and dont meet those lofty expectations

-ie. bailey, sanders, woodson

Those players also had another position on the field on the opposite side of the ball. Devin will be strictly offense.

J52
05-14-2007, 10:09 PM
Hester may not be the sharpest tool in the box but I'm pretty sure he'll get what to do on offense.

I said that for three years while he was in college. All to no avail.

DaBears9654
05-14-2007, 11:09 PM
Here's what Larry Mayer had to say about the jersey # in his q-&-a column, "Challk Talk":

I don’t see why Devin Hester would have to change his number. While receivers must wear numbers from 10-19 and 80-89, I imagine he will be a hybrid player on offense who lines up in the backfield on occasion, and running backs are permitted to wear No. 23. As Lovie Smith said, “He’s an offensive weapon right now. That’s the only limit we put on him.”

If the league does force him to change, I would suggest something in the teens; an 80s number @ tailback -- where they said he will line up from time to time -- would just look weird. Maybe 17 now that Curry's been kicked to the curb.

Of course, I think the NFL's numbering rule is too restrictive, but to go into details about my alternative would be going off-topic.

sweetness34
05-15-2007, 12:01 AM
I said that for three years while he was in college. All to no avail.

That's because they moved him around all over the place. Kinda hard to learn a position when you've got a different one each year.

supermario86
05-15-2007, 06:02 AM
I like the idea of him going on the O. He can burn everybody on O and on speical teams.

The Legend
05-15-2007, 09:33 AM
damn hester wide out in madden with that 100 speed omg

Ewing
05-15-2007, 09:38 AM
damn hester wide out in madden with that 100 speed omg

I still don't get how Madden broke the 100 barrier for Devin Hester after one season. Not even Deion Sanders got the 100 rating in speed. Does this mean that players will be able to get 100 in all categories or is this just something special for Hester?

J52
05-15-2007, 10:30 AM
I still don't get how Madden broke the 100 barrier for Devin Hester after one season. Not even Deion Sanders got the 100 rating in speed. Does this mean that players will be able to get 100 in all categories or is this just something special for Hester?

I just still can't believe they gave somebody who runs a 4.5ish 40 a 100 speed. Madden just doesn't understand football.

Bengals1690
05-15-2007, 10:38 AM
I just still can't believe they gave somebody who runs a 4.5ish 40 a 100 speed. Madden just doesn't understand football.

wow. i cant belive you really just wrote that. Madden prolly doesnt go by fourty times, seeing as they are running 40 yards in a straight line with no pads. im pretty sure they go byy football speed. they are two different things.

Addict
05-15-2007, 11:32 AM
I just still can't believe they gave somebody who runs a 4.5ish 40 a 100 speed. Madden just doesn't understand football.

No, Madden judges Hester on his football speed. Now I agree that givinng him the century is stupid, and uncalled for, but if you honestly think that because he ran a 4.51 (which by all accounts was a dissapointment to everyone, especially Hester himself, who was pretty upset about that time) he doens't deserve to have good speed (I would've given him 99, but that's just me) then it's you who just doesn't understand football.

Your post should have been:
I just still can't believe they gave somebody who runs a 4.5ish 40 a 100 speed. But then again, I just don't understand football.

iloxygenil
05-15-2007, 11:38 AM
I know this may sound stupid, but I'm sure most of us play Madden lol. Anyway, I wonder if Madden will have him at WR this year when the game releases. 100spd WR would be pretty tough to defend, even if he is a 70overall...which I doubt he could be because he's gotta be such a great return man...I dunno just something I thought of while I was sitting here.

Sorry I should have read this before posting lol. I was just sitting up here and it came to my mind when I saw the topic...

I really don't understand why he would be the only 100 in the game...

soybean
05-15-2007, 11:51 AM
No, Madden judges Hester on his football speed. Now I agree that givinng him the century is stupid, and uncalled for, but if you honestly think that because he ran a 4.51 (which by all accounts was a dissapointment to everyone, especially Hester himself, who was pretty upset about that time) he doens't deserve to have good speed (I would've given him 99, but that's just me) then it's you who just doesn't understand football.

Your post should have been:

Does Ted Ginn get 100 too?

HoopsDemon12
05-15-2007, 12:53 PM
I know this may sound stupid, but I'm sure most of us play Madden lol. Anyway, I wonder if Madden will have him at WR this year when the game releases. 100spd WR would be pretty tough to defend, even if he is a 70overall...which I doubt he could be because he's gotta be such a great return man...I dunno just something I thought of while I was sitting here.

Sorry I should have read this before posting lol. I was just sitting up here and it came to my mind when I saw the topic...

I really don't understand why he would be the only 100 in the game...

they added new ratings though for wide outs and DB's. So there will be ratings for his route running ability, his abilty to get off press coverage, cathc in traffic etc. Just as DB's have man cover, bump and run and zone cover ratings.... you put a DB with good press coverage skills on hester(cause i am almost positive he wont be able to get off press coverage very well) then you should be able to make it fare... just some new thigns in madden to make it fare so you cant abbuse corners and LB's in coverage as you haev in the past. Sorry since we were on madden i had to put in my little say

awfullyquiet
05-15-2007, 01:39 PM
what my friend said five minutes ago:

"don't give him a playbook, give him a god damn cocktail napkin with doodles on it".

awfullyquiet
05-15-2007, 02:06 PM
Since we're on a short madden aside:

The bump/run press coverage man DB skills are great. They really needed to overhaul the stat tracking of the individual players, expand the training camp program, allow niche players to work they way they should, easier to create packages... the D-Line could use alot of work. And offense. shoot. The pass blocking is so weak. So weak. I play with indy, drop back, move up in the pocket and pass, and have 4 guys within inches of me. and the Pass Blocking for indy is second to none.

But, as far as Hester and Madden. Hester will get the 100, but i'm sure it won't make that much of a difference, the game is way too fast as it is, sure i have 290 lb DLiners who can still run 4.6's, acceleration, ability to shed blocks. you can't just lump that all in 'strength' because you find someone who's got great hands but isn't a tank (i.e. tommie harris). Team congruency, Amount of reps between a WR and QB should be a factor... importing players from other systems, intellegence, ability to learn new systems. Man, if you're gonna make the biggest baddest football sim. you should at least focus on the players.

that being said, hester is damn fast. damn, damn, damn fast. I'd always want to see hester cover reggie bush in the slot.

sweetness34
05-15-2007, 05:11 PM
I just still can't believe they gave somebody who runs a 4.5ish 40 a 100 speed. Madden just doesn't understand football.

4.5 40, hahahahahaha that's funny. Try around low 4.3's my friend, and a 4.27 on his pro day. Good try though.

Saints67
05-15-2007, 05:18 PM
since this is Bears related/Wolfe...

he signed a 4-year contract today...

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=3429

jth1331
05-15-2007, 05:19 PM
4.5 40, hahahahahaha that's funny. Try around low 4.3's my friend, and a 4.27 on his pro day. Good try though.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/hester_devin

What does that say his 40 time was, genious? Don't hear you laughing now.

To be honest, I don't think it will work if they use Hester a lot on offense. When the Chiefs started to use Hall more and more on offense, he became horrible at returning and really wasn't effective at WR.

ripdw27
05-15-2007, 05:20 PM
in the words of Borat : Great Success

Flyboy
05-15-2007, 05:20 PM
what my friend said five minutes ago:

"don't give him a playbook, give him a god damn cocktail napkin with doodles on it".

Lawl. Okay, that comment has nearly made my day.

Shiver
05-15-2007, 05:25 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/hester_devin

What does that say his 40 time was, genious? Don't hear you laughing now.

To be honest, I don't think it will work if they use Hester a lot on offense. When the Chiefs started to use Hall more and more on offense, he became horrible at returning and really wasn't effective at WR.

I find it hilarious that you misspelled genius, while attempting to insult someone else's intelligence.

jth1331
05-15-2007, 05:27 PM
I find it hilarious that you misspelled genius, while attempting to insult someone else's intelligence.

Glad I made you chuckle then

HoopsDemon12
05-15-2007, 05:36 PM
4.5 40, hahahahahaha that's funny. Try around low 4.3's my friend, and a 4.27 on his pro day. Good try though.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/hester_devin

What does that say his 40 time was, genious? Don't hear you laughing now.

To be honest, I don't think it will work if they use Hester a lot on offense. When the Chiefs started to use Hall more and more on offense, he became horrible at returning and really wasn't effective at WR.

I find it hilarious that you misspelled genius, while attempting to insult someone else's intelligence.

OOOO double snap!!!

sweetness34
05-15-2007, 06:23 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/hester_devin

What does that say his 40 time was, genious? Don't hear you laughing now.

To be honest, I don't think it will work if they use Hester a lot on offense. When the Chiefs started to use Hall more and more on offense, he became horrible at returning and really wasn't effective at WR.

You honestly think that Hester has 4.5 speed? That's what's funny about this whole thing. He did crappy at the combine, but he also ran a 4.27 at his pro day. Devin has easily 4.3 speed.

Btw, make sure you can spell right before you try and insult someone.

Phrost
05-15-2007, 06:51 PM
Since we're on a short madden aside:

The bump/run press coverage man DB skills are great. They really needed to overhaul the stat tracking of the individual players, expand the training camp program, allow niche players to work they way they should, easier to create packages... the D-Line could use alot of work. And offense. shoot. The pass blocking is so weak. So weak. I play with indy, drop back, move up in the pocket and pass, and have 4 guys within inches of me. and the Pass Blocking for indy is second to none.

But, as far as Hester and Madden. Hester will get the 100, but i'm sure it won't make that much of a difference, the game is way too fast as it is, sure i have 290 lb DLiners who can still run 4.6's, acceleration, ability to shed blocks. you can't just lump that all in 'strength' because you find someone who's got great hands but isn't a tank (i.e. tommie harris). Team congruency, Amount of reps between a WR and QB should be a factor... importing players from other systems, intellegence, ability to learn new systems. Man, if you're gonna make the biggest baddest football sim. you should at least focus on the players.

that being said, hester is damn fast. damn, damn, damn fast. I'd always want to see hester cover reggie bush in the slot.

I totally see your side of things. The truth is though...they can't make it too in depth, or they will lose a massive part of the buyers base that doesn't want to deal with things like that.

LonghornsLegend
05-17-2007, 04:56 PM
should be an interesting fantasy football pickup now :)


but honestly, however he does at worst case he creates mismatches and draws attention...if he runs a reverse to the right side of the field, he may not get the ball, but you can guarantee that safety and the LB'ers are leaning more towards his side, vs the RB to the left, so i like the idea....


their WR's are very athletic and fast as is, so im not sure where he fits in, because i really like bradley, berrian, and davis...but im sure they can find room for him to touch the ball somewhere...if he gets his hand on the ball 5 times a game(on offense) i think it increases the bears chances of scoring that much, and spreading the field out more with him lining up


but alot relies on ron turner, not all devin hester...sean payton found creative ways to get bush the ball, lining up in different spots, going in motion, split out wide, he changed it frequently, and made sure bush had chances to touch the ball, turner is going to have to be just as creative for it to work effectively

TitleTown088
05-17-2007, 05:04 PM
I wonder if he will be better at offense than he was on defense?

Geo
05-17-2007, 05:50 PM
On one hand, with the great scouting the Bears have, I doubt they have any trouble replacing Hester in terms of the team's cornerback depth. But on the other hand, I'm quite sure I have read/heard, more than once, that Hester wanted to play defense and so I wonder if this will ultimately work out.

It's not like the experiment wasn't tried at Miami, although obviously it's not as though the team wasn't without its issues, personnel or otherwise, at that period of time. There's a greater chance of success with the Bears and offensive coordinator Ron Turner.

I just hope this doesn't affect Hester's return skills/ability in any way, he's so great in the role barring his constant fumbling concerns. I was never really sold on Dante Hall, even in his prime as the "human joystick," but I have loved Hester since college and think that, compared to the second-best return man, Hester could very well be better at his position than anyone else in the league at their position.*


*Thanks to a topic some months back when we discussed this.

RonnieRun23
05-17-2007, 06:05 PM
Bad move imo. Same thing happened at UM. Coaches thought he was too talented to not contribute on offense, and they stunted his growth tremendously. His sophomore year he was probably the best corner in our secondary, ahead of Kelly Jennings and Marcus Maxey. However, when they started moving him, problems started. He should just stay at corner and become a beast at one position, because we all know he has the talent. Even he has said that he prefers playing corner back.

Regardless, I believe he will be a good offensive player, I just don't want him to stay as merely a distraction kind of player, but rather grow into a great player.

ks_perfection
05-17-2007, 06:57 PM
How was Hestor as a corner? I don't recall him on defense in the superbowl.