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TACKLE
05-15-2007, 04:18 PM
Who do some of the top '08 draft prospects compare to in the NFL?

Some I could think of are...

Calais Campbell - Jason Taylor
Glen Dorsey - Warren Sapp
Limas Sweed - Roy Williams
Sedrick Ellis - Rod Coleman
Keith Rivers - Lance Briggs
Chris Long - Patrick Kerney
Jake Long - Jon Runyan
Jared Gaither - Jonathan Ogden
Jonathan Stewart - Larry Johnson
Steve Slaton - Brian Westbrook

Michigan
05-15-2007, 04:56 PM
Limas Sweed isnt as fast or physical as Roy. Gaither = Ogden is stretching it too.

Shiver
05-15-2007, 05:05 PM
Who do some of the top '08 draft prospects compare to in the NFL?

Some I could think of are...

Calais Campbell - Jason Taylor

Campbell is listed at 6'8" 280-lbs. He is almost the opposite of Jason Taylor, let alone comparable.

TACKLE
05-15-2007, 05:07 PM
Gaither has the physical tools and potential to be the next Ogden. I don't think he's close right now in terms of his play.

TACKLE
05-15-2007, 05:14 PM
Campbell is listed at 6'8" 280-lbs. He is almost the opposite of Jason Taylor, let alone comparable.

I forgot that he is now at 280, I thought he was around 265. Though I think Calais is more talented a better comparison might be Calais=Chris Canty.

marks01234
05-15-2007, 05:47 PM
Gaither has the physical tools and potential to be the next Ogden. I don't think he's close right now in terms of his play.

Gaither physical tools are quite the hype around here and I don't see it. He isn't nearly as strong in either the upper or lower body and lacks Ogden's lateral speed.

Gaither is much closer to Alex Barron.

TACKLE
05-15-2007, 06:10 PM
Gaither physical tools are quite the hype around here and I don't see it. He isn't nearly as strong in either the upper or lower body and lacks Ogden's lateral speed.

Gaither is much closer to Alex Barron.

I'm not a huge Gaither fan but he is FREAK. He's 6'9" 330lbs, ran a 4.75 in HS, and has a 36 inch vert at Maryland. The guys has freak size andwith great athletism to go along with it. He could be the next Tony Mandriach but has potential to be the next Ogden.

neko4
05-15-2007, 06:49 PM
I'm not a huge Gaither fan but he is FREAK. He's 6'9" 330lbs, ran a 4.75 in HS, and has a 36 inch vert at Maryland. The guys has freak size andwith great athletism to go along with it. He could be the next Tony Mandriach but has potential to be the next Ogden.

Thats cuz Maryland gets all the athletes :)

America
05-15-2007, 07:03 PM
Campbell is listed at 280, but I'm pretty sure he was playing upper 260s - low 70s this season. It doesn't really matter what his weight is, cause he carries it extremely well and it doesn't look like he weighs that much. He's kind of lanky and a good rangy athlete like Taylor.

Phrost
05-15-2007, 07:11 PM
Thats cuz Maryland gets all the athletes :)

No doubt about it, Vernon Davis was/is a freak.

Phrost
05-15-2007, 07:11 PM
Campbell is listed at 280, but I'm pretty sure he was playing upper 260s - low 70s this season. It doesn't really matter what his weight is, cause he carries it extremely well and it doesn't look like he weighs that much. He's kind of lanky and a good rangy athlete like Taylor.

Lanky De=Good for passrushing

supermario86
05-15-2007, 07:22 PM
Andre Woodson=Vince Young

mikedoobie
05-15-2007, 07:26 PM
Bobby Reid = Vince Young
not Andre

supermario86
05-15-2007, 07:33 PM
Bobby Reid = Vince Young
not Andre

I said Dre' cuz he has good phyical tools and a arm plus he is really productive in college buy hey just my opinion

Scotty D
05-15-2007, 07:36 PM
Jake Long = Jon Jansen

-black
05-15-2007, 07:37 PM
Calias.....maybe a heavier Simeon Rice......

I dont know yet, I want to see him play this year with his new weight

Severe Punishment
05-15-2007, 07:44 PM
Calais Campbell - Jason Taylor
Glen Dorsey - Warren Sapp
Limas Sweed - Roy Williams = Not even close. Roy was 50X's better as a Junior. Sweed would have to rewrite every record in Texas and
run a sub 4.4 to even be in Roy's rearview.
Sedrick Ellis - Rod Coleman
Keith Rivers - Lance Briggs
Chris Long - Patrick Kerney
Jake Long - Jon Runyan
Jared Gaither - Jonathan Ogden = HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
Jonathan Stewart - Larry Johnson
Steve Slaton - Brian Westbrook = More like Ahman Green than Westbrook.

gstock05
05-15-2007, 08:15 PM
Jonathan Stewart is infinitely faster and shiftier than Larry Johnson. He doesn't run with the same power either.

draftguru151
05-15-2007, 08:35 PM
Campbell is listed at 280, but I'm pretty sure he was playing upper 260s - low 70s this season. It doesn't really matter what his weight is, cause he carries it extremely well and it doesn't look like he weighs that much. He's kind of lanky and a good rangy athlete like Taylor.

Last year he was at 260 but he's bulked up to 282 and isn't quite as lanky as he was last year. There isn't really some one who he is a very good comparison too just because of his size, but playing style he reminds me of Osi Umenyiora. A 6-8 Osi, that is just scary.

nobodyinparticular
05-15-2007, 08:36 PM
Last year he was at 260 but he's bulked up to 282 and isn't quite as lanky as he was last year. There isn't really some one who he is a very good comparison too just because of his size, but playing style he reminds me of Osi Umenyiora. A 6-8 Osi, that is just scary.

Ah, yes, I was thinking of Osi myself. Similar, but not perfect match.

Jimmy
05-15-2007, 08:39 PM
malcom jenkins- chris mcallister

-black
05-15-2007, 08:40 PM
Mike Jenkins=Derelle Revis :)

-black
05-15-2007, 08:41 PM
how come I'm not a Pro Bowler yet?

Xonraider
05-15-2007, 08:43 PM
Brian Brohm.. I am not sure. But I'll say Donovan McNabb and then wait to be killed. I'm not exactly good at comparisons.

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-15-2007, 08:44 PM
how come I'm not a Pro Bowler yet?2,000 posts.

Green Bay Scat
05-15-2007, 08:47 PM
Earl Bennett = Antonio Freeman

-black
05-15-2007, 08:52 PM
Brian Brohm.. I am not sure. But I'll say Donovan McNabb and then wait to be killed. I'm not exactly good at comparisons.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/turkblack/craigwtf.gif

draftguru151
05-15-2007, 08:53 PM
Brian Brohm.. I am not sure. But I'll say Donovan McNabb and then wait to be killed. I'm not exactly good at comparisons.

I'm a fan of the Tim Couch comparison.

-black
05-15-2007, 08:56 PM
I'm a fan of the Tim Couch comparison.

i've yet to hear your true thoughts on Brohm, except he is not very good.....care to break down y u feel that way?

ricky bobby
05-15-2007, 09:02 PM
Last year he was at 260 but he's bulked up to 282 and isn't quite as lanky as he was last year. There isn't really some one who he is a very good comparison too just because of his size, but playing style he reminds me of Osi Umenyiora. A 6-8 Osi, that is just scary.
Is he a legit 6-8? Mathias Kiwanuka was listed at 6'8", turns outs he's only 6'5".

draftguru151
05-15-2007, 09:05 PM
Um, I just really don't love what I see from him. He is good, pretty smart, makes good decisions, but doesn't have an outstanding arm, and while he shows good touch it isn't very hard to throw good looking balls to wide open receivers. I think he is in the running for the top QB next year, but he doesn't deserve the hype he gets. He has a lot to prove IMO to be worthy of a top 10 pick.

draftguru151
05-15-2007, 09:07 PM
Is he a legit 6-8? Mathias Kiwanuka was listed at 6'8", turns outs he's only 6'5".

At worst he is 6-7, he skies over everyone else on the field.

DeathbyStat
05-15-2007, 09:10 PM
Derrick Williams=Worse version of Dante Hall...or Randle Elle

TACKLE
05-15-2007, 09:34 PM
I was thinking Brohm=Phillip Rivers

TACKLE
05-15-2007, 09:47 PM
Steve Slaton - Brian Westbrook = More like Ahman Green than Westbrook.

Huh?

Ahman Green is 6'0" 218 and with power.
Steve Slaton is 5'10"(at best) 195lbs and is a quick shifty runner. Ahman Green is probably one of the last guys I would compare Slaton to.

Woody56
05-15-2007, 09:47 PM
Jasper Brinkley - faster Jeremiah Trotter

Green Bay Scat
05-15-2007, 09:57 PM
id say steve slaton is like a dominic davis before the injuries, and faster of course. some power but more shifty

Paranoidmoonduck
05-15-2007, 10:07 PM
I'm a fan of the Tim Couch comparison.

As am I. I know the comparison carries a lot of undue weight because of Couch's pro career, but they have very similar playing styles.

YAYareaRB
05-15-2007, 10:09 PM
Bobby Reid = Vince Young
not Andre

Bobby Reid is more of a Vince Young.. May not be the same size but has the same tools. Both are Texas boys too.

-black
05-15-2007, 10:10 PM
Jasper Brinkley - faster Jeremiah Trotter

uh huh.....

Hunter S. Thompson
05-15-2007, 10:32 PM
Sweed is nothing like Roy Williams. He seems more like Plaxico Burress to me.

Zyro_1014
05-15-2007, 11:35 PM
Campbell is listed at 6'8" 280-lbs. He is almost the opposite of Jason Taylor, let alone comparable.

i'll say campbell is more of a Peppers

Acreboy
05-15-2007, 11:42 PM
I'm a fan of the Tim Couch comparison.Except for the fact that Brohm is a good QB and all.

Acreboy
05-15-2007, 11:43 PM
What about Herman Johnson OG/OT LSU?

Woody56
05-16-2007, 12:01 AM
What about Herman Johnson OG/OT LSU?

maybe Orlando Brown

supermario86
05-16-2007, 06:05 AM
i'll say campbell is more of a Peppers

thats a fair comparison

Addict
05-16-2007, 06:25 AM
Last year he was at 260 but he's bulked up to 282 and isn't quite as lanky as he was last year. There isn't really some one who he is a very good comparison too just because of his size, but playing style he reminds me of Osi Umenyiora. A 6-8 Osi, that is just scary.

I so much want Calais for the Lions. At the same time I so want the Lions being out of position to take him.

draftguru151
05-16-2007, 07:46 AM
Except for the fact that Brohm is a good QB and all.

Yea, Couch was never a good player, he just went #1 overall for no reason.

Addict
05-16-2007, 08:52 AM
Yea, Couch was never a good player, he just went #1 overall for no reason.

with the first selection of the 1999 draft the Cleveland Browns select Tim Couch

all the critics just went 'WHO THE HELL IS THAT?!?!'

Sniper
05-16-2007, 11:26 AM
Mario Manningham kind of reminds me of Donte' Stallworth.

PACKmanN
05-16-2007, 05:34 PM
Paul Oliver = Rashean Mathis

draftguru151
05-16-2007, 06:48 PM
Mario Manningham kind of reminds me of Donte' Stallworth.

Marvin Harrison is thrown out there a lot with Manningham, not sure I buy that, but I like it a bit more than Stallworth.

Brodeur
05-16-2007, 07:04 PM
Huh?

Ahman Green is 6'0" 218 and with power.
Steve Slaton is 5'10"(at best) 195lbs and is a quick shifty runner. Ahman Green is probably one of the last guys I would compare Slaton to.

Ahman Green used to be an extremely fast man back before the aging and injuries and such, so I wouldn't call it a bad comparison at all.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-16-2007, 07:38 PM
I actually like the Green to Slaton comparison a bit, but right now Slaton's best comparison in my opinion is Michael Bennett.

High Roller
05-16-2007, 07:42 PM
I think Slaton is more elusive than Westbrook and doesn't have the ability to run people over like Westy. I see Slaton as more of a Willie Parker.

Matthew Jones
05-16-2007, 07:52 PM
I like Michael Bennett = Steve Slaton.

23trufant
05-16-2007, 07:56 PM
I like Michael Bennett = Steve Slaton.

Yea prior to the injuries Bennett was really good. I like the Willie Parker comparison.

Michigan
05-16-2007, 07:58 PM
Mario Manningham - Marvin Harrison

TheChampIsHere
05-16-2007, 08:16 PM
Some people need to realize that its not necessarily a diss on someone to compare them as a prospect to someone who was a bust in the NFL.

Like with Brohm, I could see why someone would say he is a similar prospect to Couch just based on his tools, style of play, college career etc. But that doesnt mean he will do what Couch did in the NFL, how a players career turns out has so much to do with circumstances and development, especially the QB situation.

And I like the Slaton/Bennett comparison, both flat out dynamic big play threats and high picks coming out....Obviously Bennett has been a bust. The other comparison i like is Willie Parker. While Willie as a prospect got no hype, if you look at the impact he has had at the NFL level I could see Slaton having a similar impact.

gstock05
05-16-2007, 10:50 PM
Limas Sweed = Michael Jenkins
Vernon Gholston = Shawne Merriman
Steve Slaton = Faster Tatum Bell
Jake Long = Jon Jansen
Sam Baker = Ross Verba (better) b4 the character probs
Jared Gaither = Marcus McNeil
Jonathan Stewart = Jamal Lewis
Justin King = Nate Clements? cant think of a good one
Chad Henne = Jake Delhomme
Kenny Philips = Brian Dawkins
James Hardy = Plaxico Burress
Colt Brennan = Alex Smith
Keith Rivers = Derrick Johnson-esque. not completely

P-L
05-16-2007, 10:56 PM
I hate the Manningham/Harrison comparisons. Harrison runs excellent routes and has great hands. Those two things are Manningham's question marks. Mario is also faster than Harrison by a decent margin.

mikedoobie
05-16-2007, 11:25 PM
I said Dre' cuz he has good phyical tools and a arm plus he is really productive in college buy hey just my opinion

Bobby reid much like VY looks to run and is a a great runner much like VY, Woodson is a great athlete but really isnt that great of a runner especially to the level of Reid and Young. Bobby Reid may not have strong as an arm as Young but they play nearly identical

jbeans187
05-16-2007, 11:57 PM
I think Slaton is more elusive than Westbrook and doesn't have the ability to run people over like Westy. I see Slaton as more of a Willie Parker.

NICE, or i was thinking a bigger Darren Sproles

And a few more off the top of the head...

Jamaal Charles - Michael Bennett
Yvenson Bernard - Steven Jackson (Similar hair, same school and running style, Bernard isnt quite as explosive or powerful though)
Adarius Bowan - Sidney Rice
Martellus Bennett - Antonio Gates
Barry Richardson - Shawn Andrews
Jerod Mayo - Teddy Lehman
Brandon Flowers - Ronde Barber
Mario Manningham - Chris Chambers (No way MM is like Marvin Harrison, but when i watch MM and Chambers i feel they both play bigger than they are, when they play i always forget they are both under 6 feet)

Paranoidmoonduck
05-17-2007, 02:17 AM
I hate the Manningham/Harrison comparisons. Harrison runs excellent routes and has great hands. Those two things are Manningham's question marks. Mario is also faster than Harrison by a decent margin.

In his prime I'm confident that Harrison could torch Manningham.

reese
05-17-2007, 02:53 AM
Bobby reid much like VY looks to run and is a a great runner much like VY, Woodson is a great athlete but really isnt that great of a runner especially to the level of Reid and Young. Bobby Reid may not have strong as an arm as Young but they play nearly identical

i was wonderin if anyone noticed how much reid looks like VY when he runs

reese
05-17-2007, 02:54 AM
Paul Oliver = Rashean Mathis


but oliver is bald..lol

Sniper
05-17-2007, 11:44 AM
Mario Manningham - Marvin Harrison

Don't get me wrong, I love Manningham, and I'm not a big Harrison guy, but Manningham isn't in Harrison's league. yet

MNRunLeft
05-17-2007, 11:59 AM
I like Michael Bennett = Steve Slaton.

It's difficult to really compair Slaton to a NFL back because of the system he comes from. I think he's more illusive than Bennett ever was and is at least willing to run between the tackles. I think a better compairison to Slaton might even be the back Bennett replaced Robert Smith.

thebow305
05-17-2007, 12:05 PM
In his prime I'm confident that Harrison could torch Manningham.

Cosign.

Also, gstock, I love the Colt Brennan=Alex Smith comparison, as I believed Smith was nothing more than a system quarterback coming from the Utes, but he has turned out to be a pretty solid player, and I think Brennan may do the same thing. I'm a little confused though about you're Slaton/Bell comparison though. Bell is a complete burner, probably faster than Slaton in the first place. Maybe just as fast at the worst but I think he is faster than Slaton, Slaton is just smaller and quicker than Tatum. I definitely wouldn't say Tatum is slower. Overall though the Bennett/Slaton comparison is the best yet.

giant73zuma
05-17-2007, 12:05 PM
how do you guys think Slaton compares to tiki barber?

Paranoidmoonduck
05-17-2007, 12:08 PM
I haven't seen enough wiggle or inside running ability from Slaton to call him Barber yet. He's got tremendous straight line speed, some of the best I've seen from a runningback in a while, but due to his offense he's typically starting his runs already outside the hashmarks.

I still think he's Michael Bennett with more natural receiving ability.

draftguru151
05-17-2007, 02:29 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Manningham, and I'm not a big Harrison guy, but Manningham isn't in Harrison's league. yet

None of these players are in any of the guys being mentioned leagues yet. People aren't comparing their talent level, their comparing their playing style.

coCANES17
05-17-2007, 02:54 PM
Jorvorskie Lane = Jerome Bettis. Except he's the J-train instead of the Bus.

-black
05-17-2007, 03:00 PM
Brian Brohm=Peyton Manning :)



















ok not quite, but I do like Brohm (as most of you know)

TACKLE
05-17-2007, 08:08 PM
how do you guys think Slaton compares to tiki barber?

I think he compares well to a young Tiki but later in his career. Tiki at the end of his career put on about 15lbs of muscle.

Don Vito
05-17-2007, 08:27 PM
Tyson Jackson=Mario Williams (not just because of size, because of pass rushing skills, strength, athleticism)
Xavier Adibi=Ernie Sims
Mike Oher=Jason Peters
Mike Hamlin=Kerry Rhodes
Brandon Flowers=Asante Samuel