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bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 12:53 PM
Talk about small independent brewers, imports, etc. Talk about major domestic breweries is unacceptable!

Scar
05-18-2007, 12:59 PM
Fat Tire. The only way to celebrate TGIF.

Smokey Joe
05-18-2007, 12:59 PM
http://psychostick.com/beer_small.htm

Giantsfan1080
05-18-2007, 01:00 PM
Talk about small independent brewers, imports, etc. Talk about major domestic breweries is unacceptable!

I've had it once but it's made my top 3 beer list.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/pantomus/LeinenkugelSunset.jpg

My other two would be:

http://www.bottlewatch.com/uploaded_images/smithwicks-imported-irish-ale-761730.jpg


http://www.gotbeer.com/content/user_1/sam_adams_summer_ale.jpg

Sam summer isn't the best of beers but there is something about it that I like.

Moses
05-18-2007, 01:00 PM
Brick Brewery is my home brewery.

http://www.brickbeer.com/desktops/brkdesk10c.jpg

For financial reasons, I have to Make 'Er A Laker.

http://www.brickbeer.com/images/main/side_laker01.jpg

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:01 PM
pasted from the baseball thread
yeah, i like the leine's. not my favorite wisconsin micro (see Lakefront Brewery), but very good.
-Sunset Wheat is my favorite Leine's brew and my favorite Wheat beer of all time. they hit it right on the head for that one.
-But, they just put out a new summer beer called Summer Shandy. it is beer with a lot of lemon flavoring. it is waaaaaaaaay better than i thought it'd be when i heard about it. perfectly blended summer beer. tastes like the perfect combo of beer and lemonade.
-Leine's Honeyweiss is kinda their flagship. i think they kinda sold out on it recently and are using less honey. still decent though.
-Leine's Berryweiss is another fruity wheat beer. chicks love it.
-they are now marketing the idea of mixing leine's honey and leine's berry. calling it "Leinenkugel's Honeyberry" they don't sell it specifically. the drinker needs to buy 2 6-packs and mix it on their own. it is very good. i like the sum better than both of the parts.
-Leinies Creamy Dark is exactly what it sounds like. it's worth a try, but if you want a dark beer, you can do better.
-Leines Red-GREAT red beer. my second favorite in the Leine's line.
-then theirs original and light, which I'd never buy.

Giantsfan1080
05-18-2007, 01:02 PM
They have something called the Adventure pack but we aren't totally sure whats in there. We think the Red Lager, Creamy Dark, Sunset Wheat, and Weisse.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:02 PM
My favorite beer that I have when I can find it is Baltika:

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/worldguide/wgimages/BN6011_46.jpg

There are 9 varieties. My favorite is the #5, which is a honey wheat, and #6, which is a Porter. #9 is a standard ale, and #4 is a dark ale. Those are the 4 that are generally available stateside.

Company website is here: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/worldguide/wgimages/BN6011_46.jpg

Scar
05-18-2007, 01:04 PM
Don't forget Leinie's Apple Spice. I buy a couple cases of that stuff every fall when they release it. Perfect for sitting around the fire and sipping on a cold night.

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:04 PM
They have something called the Adventure pack but we aren't totally sure whats in there. We think the Red Lager, Creamy Dark, Sunset Wheat, and Weisse.

I'd love to take an adventure with Leinenkugel's.

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:04 PM
They have something called the Adventure pack but we aren't totally sure whats in there. We think the Red Lager, Creamy Dark, Sunset Wheat, and Weisse.

i'm pretty sure that's it. 3 bottles of each. i enjoy all 4.

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:05 PM
This thread is f***ing killing me right now. I'm stuck here at work for another 2 hours and I now have the f***ing shakes. I want a Sunset Wheat so damn bad right now.

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:06 PM
Don't forget Leinie's Apple Spice. I buy a couple cases of that stuff every fall when they release it. Perfect for sitting around the fire and sipping on a cold night.

yeah, i forgot to include their seasonals.

Apple Spice for the fall
Summer Shandy for the summer
Oktoberfest for the fall
Big Butt Dopplebock for the winter...allthough i heard they are discontinuing this one...i'm very excited to see it's replacement.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:06 PM
Go get a lunch beer!

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:06 PM
Go get a lunch beer!

Already back from lunch.

Moses
05-18-2007, 01:06 PM
This thread is f***ing killing me right now. I'm stuck here at work for another 2 hours and I now have the f***ing shakes. I want a Sunset Wheat so damn bad right now.

I work from 4 PM to 12 PM tonight. I also work tommorow morning from 7 AM to noon. So much for my friday night. ;)

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:06 PM
This thread is f***ing killing me right now. I'm stuck here at work for another 2 hours and I now have the f***ing shakes. I want a Sunset Wheat so damn bad right now.

SAME HERE. i could really go for a good IPA right now. any good ones from the east coast you can recommend?

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:07 PM
Sam Adams is a domestic brewer, but they have an impressive array of beer. I think they are fantastic because all of their stuff is quality, and if you like beer, you can find a Sams for you. I love Sams Summer and Oktoberfest.

Smokey Joe
05-18-2007, 01:07 PM
Personally, I hate beer, and don't plan to become even a casual drinker any time soon. Even though I am underage, it isn't that tough to get access to it.

Flame away...

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:07 PM
Go get a lunch beer!

Already back from lunch.

Second lunch! Get creative!

Moses
05-18-2007, 01:08 PM
Personally, I hate beer, and don't plan to become even a casual drinker any time soon. Even though I am underage, it isn't that tough to get access to it.

Flame away...

It's an acquired taste. Most kids don't like it until they're about 17 or so.

DChess
05-18-2007, 01:08 PM
this beer is actually get its name out, produced here in cleveland, its so good.

http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/media/beer_profiles/ConwaysIrish_BottleGlass.jpg

and there most famous beer, and their best

http://www.courierpostonline.com/blogs/uploaded_images/Scan0007-799621.jpg

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:08 PM
Personally, I hate beer, and don't plan to become even a casual drinker any time soon. Even though I am underage, it isn't that tough to get access to it.

Flame away...

If you don't drink, you don't drink. I didn't always love beer, but you develop a taste for it. As you get older and can actually go to bars, you'll find that there are plenty of excellent beers out there that you like. Not everything tastes like Old Milwalkee and Keystone.

DChess
05-18-2007, 01:09 PM
Don't forget Leinie's Apple Spice. I buy a couple cases of that stuff every fall when they release it. Perfect for sitting around the fire and sipping on a cold night.

i actually got some of that in my fridge as we speak. im not as big on it as you, but i still like it

Smokey Joe
05-18-2007, 01:10 PM
It's an acquired taste. Most kids don't like it until they're about 17 or so.
right here...

Scar
05-18-2007, 01:10 PM
Already back from lunch.

Take a "coffee break"

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:11 PM
SAME HERE. i could really go for a good IPA right now. any good ones from the east coast you can recommend?

My dad loves the Lagunitas IPA. It is from the San Fran area though.

http://www.lagunitas.com/images/beers_ipa_main.gif

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:13 PM
this beer is actually get its name out, produced here in cleveland, its so good.

http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/media/beer_profiles/ConwaysIrish_BottleGlass.jpg

I've only ever had the one with fire on the label. It might be their winter lager?

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:13 PM
Sam Adams is a domestic brewer, but they have an impressive array of beer. I think they are fantastic because all of their stuff is quality, and if you like beer, you can find a Sams for you. I love Sams Summer and Oktoberfest.

in my opinion, Sam Adams can do no wrong. but, for me, their best is the straight up Sam Adams Lager. I ALWAYS buy their Holiday Variety 12 pack. great stuff in there. love the Honey Porter.

Nightmares Win 6-0
05-18-2007, 01:13 PM
i haven't had a beer/alcoholic beverage in 3 months...

:(

-black
05-18-2007, 01:15 PM
guess im one of the few that doesnt drink. Never have and never will. I enjoy beind under my own influence :)

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:15 PM
My dad loves the Lagunitas IPA. It is from the San Fran area though.

http://www.lagunitas.com/images/beers_ipa_main.gif

i'm having people over to my house for a cookout tonight...making my beer run right after work. if i see that stuff ^ i will buy it. there is a funky liquor store by where i work that pretty much only sells microbrews. i love it.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:15 PM
I despise Magic Hat. I have a friend who is fruity, and he loves it. Always brings it over, and the girls drink it. I think it's useless.

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:15 PM
i'm still constantly amazed and surprised people don't mention magic hat (vermont brew). it's ok, because their beer sucks, but so many people like it for some reason.

I like it. Its not my favorite but I like it. The packaging is pretty creative.

DChess
05-18-2007, 01:16 PM
I've only ever had the one with fire on the label. It might be their winter lager?

i think your talking about burning river. and yeah its a joke off of the cuyahoga

http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/media/beer_profiles/BurningRiver_BottleGlass.jpg

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:16 PM
I know Yuengling, a Pottsville, PA brewer, has been expanding West and South. Back in the 1990's, you could only get it in PA, Delaware, part of NY, and maybe NJ. I know it hit DC around 1999. Last time we had one of these threads, it was in Ohio and Iowa. Any further expansion?

Moses
05-18-2007, 01:18 PM
guess im one of the few that doesnt drink. Never have and never will. I enjoy beind under my own influence :)

Hard to judge something you've never tried.

bored of education
05-18-2007, 01:18 PM
i love pabst

-black
05-18-2007, 01:18 PM
dont have to touch fire to know that its hot....Alcohol is a drug, and the biggst drug in all of america. It destroys many peoples homes. I have seen parts of my family and friends fams destroyed because of alcoholics (and crack heads). Not something I want to start doing. Just me tho

DChess
05-18-2007, 01:18 PM
in my opinion, Sam Adams can do no wrong. but, for me, their best is the straight up Sam Adams Lager. I ALWAYS buy their Holiday Variety 12 pack. great stuff in there. love the Honey Porter.

yeah, thats awesome, alot of beers put out a nice holiday varitey pack, its a great time for beer, if i must say so.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:18 PM
This beer is horrible, but I bought a bottle specifically because the label was hilarious.

http://www.eurobrews.com/HolyGrailPoster600.jpg

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:19 PM
i'm having people over to my house for a cookout tonight...making my beer run right after work. if i see that stuff ^ i will buy it. there is a funky liquor store by where i work that pretty much only sells microbrews. i love it.

My dad found its like 3 monthss ago. Just started coming out here. They also have another one called The Censored Rich Copper Ale, but we prefer the IPA from them.

Also this is pretty good. Its not an IPA but good none the less.

http://hop-talk.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/dales-pale-ale_sm.jpg

Don't be fooled by it coming in cans only.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
05-18-2007, 01:19 PM
I don't care if I get flamed for not drinking independent brewery ****, these are a few of my favorite beers:

http://www.belch.com/img/bmbottle.gif

http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/stellaartois.jpg

http://www.rickscafejamaica.com/write/image/red_stripe_bottles.jpg


...Suck it.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:19 PM
all over maryland (i was in cumberland).

God, Cumberland is a horrid stinkhole of a town. Nothing to do at all, nowhere near anything relevant.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:20 PM
I like the Stella Artois okay. I'm more of a dark beer fan in general.

DChess
05-18-2007, 01:20 PM
I know Yuengling, a Pottsville, PA brewer, has been expanding West and South. Back in the 1990's, you could only get it in PA, Delaware, part of NY, and maybe NJ. I know it hit DC around 1999. Last time we had one of these threads, it was in Ohio and Iowa. Any further expansion?

its so good, and yeah its became real big here in ohio, i know alot of people who drink that. we went to the outer banks in the summer, and thats what we primarily drank.

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:21 PM
nothing wrong with Blue Moon man.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:21 PM
I also really like Alagash White. It's a lighter beer, but it tastes awesome with a lemon squeezed into it.

http://www.allagash.com/images/pics/curieux.gif

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:22 PM
Yeungling is great to sit back and drink, but it is terrible as a party/keg beer. For one, it's expensive as hell. Also, it's very heavy, so it takes a while to process through your stomach. You actually get full drinking too much Yuengling. We had a Yuengling keg for a party at our house, and a bunch of people puked because it's not a chugging beer.

AlexDown
05-18-2007, 01:22 PM
Three pages already? That was fast.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:23 PM
People really like their beer...

DChess
05-18-2007, 01:24 PM
I don't care if I get flamed for not drinking independent brewery ****, these are a few of my favorite beers:

http://www.belch.com/img/bmbottle.gif

http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/stellaartois.jpg

http://www.rickscafejamaica.com/write/image/red_stripe_bottles.jpg


...Suck it.

i think blue moons extemely overrated. if were going commerical, my favoirte would have to be:

http://home.earthlink.net/~snailstales/honeybrown.JPG

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:24 PM
ok, if you know what pride i take in Wisconsin beer, you'll understand how hard this for me to say, but my favorite microbrewer ever is Bell's from Kalamazoo, MI. everything they make is amazing. i don't know if they distribute it outside of the midwest though.
my favorite is called Bell's Two Hearted Pale Ale
Bell's Oberon is also quite amazing. it's another orange ish beer. if you like Sunset Wheat, you'll like Bell's Oberon.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
05-18-2007, 01:26 PM
nothing wrong with Blue Moon man.

If you ask me, it's the same freakin' thing as Hoegaarden (which I know quite a few people here rave about), but because it's brewed by Coors it loses cred.

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:27 PM
another one of my favorite non Wisconsin breweries:

from Washington

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Red_hook_logo.gif


love their ESB, IPA and every seasonal they've made Winter Hook, Copper Hook, Late Harvest and Sun Rye Ale. all amazing.

SubNoize
05-18-2007, 01:28 PM
I like this Cooper's it's from Australia

http://www.coopers.com.au/media/files/503.jpg

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:32 PM
There is a place about 10-15 miles away from me in Alexandria (outside of DC) where you can make and bottle your own beer. You make an appointment, choose your brand, etc. They give you the ingredients, and you do all of the work. You design your label, and they make labels and bottles for you during the fermentation period. Once it's done, you bottle your own beer. I think you get 8 24-bottle cases out of it. It does cost about $350-$400, though.

portermvp84
05-18-2007, 01:33 PM
Big fan of Budwesier, I had it in the Breww\ery in Milwakee. It was awesome.

Moses
05-18-2007, 01:34 PM
dont have to touch fire to know that its hot....Alcohol is a drug, and the biggst drug in all of america. It destroys many peoples homes. I have seen parts of my family and friends fams destroyed because of alcoholics (and crack heads). Not something I want to start doing. Just me tho

It's called moderation and responsibility. Would you not drive a car because some people are idiots and get into car crashes?

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:35 PM
I can't drink Bud. It just tastes like piss to me. I'll have Miller Lite for drinking games and such because it's cheap and predictable.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:35 PM
It's called moderation and responsibility. Would you not drive a car because some people are idiots and get into car crashes?

People should stay away from these message boards because some users write unintelligent and incomprehensible things.

ncstateviking
05-18-2007, 01:36 PM
blue moon with an orange slice.

sam adams lager, and sam adams cherry wheat.

purple haze.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 01:36 PM
Personally, I have no problem with people who don't drink, are vegetarians, etc. You can do what you want as long as you don't hurt yourself, other people, other living things, the environment, and you keep your opinions to yourself. If you don't want to drink, feel free to not drink. As long as you don't judge me for drinking, we're cool.

Scar
05-18-2007, 01:38 PM
Big fan of Budwesier, I had it in the Breww\ery in Milwakee. It was awesome.

Just how much beer did you drink at the Bud brewery? Enough to make you forget you were in St. Louis?

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:38 PM
Anyone ever had Brooklyn Brews. Not sure how far west they are distributed. They have quite a selection.

http://thehappycorp.com/words/wp-content/images/320/20061221_015736.jpg

They have a lot more than that. They also have tons of seasonal and limited edition beers. My favorite is the one with the baseball label. The '55 Pennant Ale. Dedicated to the '55 Brooklyn Dodgers. A dollar from every case goes to buliding a statue of both Jackie Robinson and Pee Wee Reese at the Brooklyn Cyclones ballpark (Met's shortseason A affiliate).

DChess
05-18-2007, 01:41 PM
blue moon with an orange slice.

sam adams lager, and sam adams cherry wheat.

purple haze.

dude, man law, no fruit in beer

drowe
05-18-2007, 01:45 PM
Just how much beer did you drink at the Bud brewery? Enough to make you forget you were in St. Louis?

nice. i was thinking the same thing, but you put it way better.

MaxV
05-18-2007, 01:47 PM
My 2 favorites are Corona and Baltika.

http://the3gentsbeer.co.uk/world_beer_guide/pic_baltika-dark-beer.jpg

http://www.crescentmontreal.com/images/corona.jpg

Giantsfan1080
05-18-2007, 01:52 PM
Well I'm sort of lucky because I get to go to work and drink at the same time. I usually start up at like 7 or 8 on a Friday. Probably 7 tonight bcause of the baseball game.

Moses
05-18-2007, 01:52 PM
My 2 favorites are Corona and Baltika.

Corona is pretty overrated in my opinion.

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 01:54 PM
Well I'm sort of lucky because I get to go to work and drink at the same time. I usually start up at like 7 or 8 on a Friday. Probably 7 tonight bcause of the baseball game.

If Gallo's is out of Leine's I might have to stop by tonight.

RyanLeaf#1
05-18-2007, 01:55 PM
Smithwicks and Hoegaarden are great

Scar
05-18-2007, 01:55 PM
Yep, I stick to Tecate or Modello, or even Pacifica when I'm drinking Mexican beers. Corona just has better marketing.

Giantsfan1080
05-18-2007, 01:57 PM
If Gallo's is out of Leine's I might have to stop by tonight.

We just got a case in for the week so that's cool. We're getting a lot more in next week because of a better deal.

MaxV
05-18-2007, 01:59 PM
Corona is pretty overrated in my opinion.

To each his own.

I LOVE Corona.

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 02:00 PM
I'm not a big Corona drinker, but there are some days and atmospheres where it just feels right.

DChess
05-18-2007, 02:02 PM
I'm not a big Corona drinker, but there are some days and atmospheres where it just feels right.

not a big fan of corona, but felt it neccasary to drink it on cinco de mayo, besides that, you'll rarley see me drinking it

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 02:06 PM
not a big fan of corona, but felt it neccasary to drink it on cinco de mayo, besides that, you'll rarley see me drinking it

I hear ya. I had it on cinco de mayo as well. I'd never bring Corona to a party or get one at a bar. But if I show up somewhere (especially if it is outside), and everyone else is drinking a corona, I'll have a few as well.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 02:18 PM
There's a bar in DC called The Brickskellar. It is noted in the Guiness Book of World Records as the bar with the most different types of beer in stock and available. Here is their beer list:

http://www.thebrickskeller.net/_wsn/page3.html

drowe
05-18-2007, 02:22 PM
never a corona fan myself. it's allright when it's really hot out, but even in that situation, i'd rather have a wheat beer.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 02:38 PM
Corona is readily available, so I'll drink it if it's on a significant special. My standard bar in DC has $3 Corona bottles on Wednesday nights. I'll drink $3 Coronas. No problems there.

DChess
05-18-2007, 02:44 PM
I hear ya. I had it on cinco de mayo as well. I'd never bring Corona to a party or get one at a bar. But if I show up somewhere (especially if it is outside), and everyone else is drinking a corona, I'll have a few as well.

thats probaly the best summary of what corona is.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 02:49 PM
There's a bar in DC called The Brickskellar. It is noted in the Guiness Book of World Records as the bar with the most different types of beer in stock and available. Here is their beer list:

http://www.thebrickskeller.net/_wsn/page3.html

Awesome thread. Lotta great beers mentioned so far. The only thing that concerns me when I see a beer list like that is freshness. Hopefully they are conscious of it and pull the weaker stuff before it goes south. Actually, hopefully they're just really busy and all of it gets consumed fresh. Looks like they carry a fair amount of stuff that will age well though. That guy in the picture owes me a beer. I bought a delirium tremens a few weeks ago and it turned out to be chock full of floaties. I was pretty pissed. Damn thing was 3 bucks for an 11.2 ouncer. So now I have to purchase another to discover the beer's true character. Although it didn't seem to be on par with Duvel from what I can tell, I'll give it one more chance.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 02:52 PM
they're liars. they're consistently out of 90% of the beers they say they "have".
Well, at least that solves the freshness concern. haha.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 02:52 PM
It is a really cool bar, but it is also pricy. Some of the beers on that list cost $40 apiece. They do a great job of having the beers in stock. I did a business school report on inventory systems. They have an elaborate system that tracks the more popular beers. Every 3 days, the owner runs a report about what's running low and what is selling, then he orders new stock based on the freshness, availability, and popularity of the beers. Essentially, it saves storage space and gives the customers what they need. Brilliant stuff. Huge cost saver, too.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 02:53 PM
they're liars. they're consistently out of 90% of the beers they say they "have".

I would say they have 60-65% of the beers on their list. They do update the list now and again. Generally, they have the ones that I like to drink. All of the domestics and most of the English, Belgian, and German beers are there. That's what really matters to me.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 02:56 PM
It is a really cool bar, but it is also pricy. Some of the beers on that list cost $40 apiece. They do a great job of having the beers in stock. I did a business school report on inventory systems. They have an elaborate system that tracks the more popular beers. Every 3 days, the owner runs a report about what's running low and what is selling, then he orders new stock based on the freshness, availability, and popularity of the beers. Essentially, it saves storage space and gives the customers what they need. Brilliant stuff. Huge cost saver, too.
Very nice. Yeah, if they've got a beer list like that it would be reasonable to assume they know how to take care of the stuff properly.

gbpackers0065
05-18-2007, 02:57 PM
http://www.carbwire.com/images/heineken.jpg
Corona is good too.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 03:00 PM
http://www.carbwire.com/images/heineken.jpg
Corona is good too.

Every Heineken I've ever had was skunked from the light. They should use brown bottles.

drowe
05-18-2007, 03:02 PM
yeah, i've always disliked Heineken. maybe it tastes better outa those keg cans they have.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 03:02 PM
Talk about small independent brewers, imports, etc. Talk about major domestic breweries is unacceptable!
Just thought I'd reiterate that. Somebody can start a bmc thread if they want, but this thread is for real beer. Cheers.

gbpackers0065
05-18-2007, 03:03 PM
I never use the bottle, i always use the can but its may favorite

duckseason
05-18-2007, 03:06 PM
I never use the bottle, i always use the can but its may favorite

Cool. What all have you tried? I mean, style-wise?

edit- Dude I love that sig. Been meaning to compliment you on that for awhile.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 03:23 PM
the last time i was there (~6 months ago), me and a buddy were going down the list ordering things. every time the waitress said they didn't have it. eventually, we were just point to a page and saying, "if you have anything on this page, i'll take it." they were still missing it most of the time.

they did have most of the american stuff they said they had, but realistically, if i'm going to a place with the biggest beer selection in the world, i want to try some stuff i won't be able to get elsewhere. they failed miserably in that regard.

You know what? About 6 months ago, I did have an issue like that. They had a problem with one of their major European suppliers, who lost its license. I guess it takes a lot of time to find a distributor that can get you vastly different brands and such, so they were running low. I was there a few weeks back, and their stocks appear to have been replenished.

jag
05-18-2007, 03:29 PM
I don't care if I get flamed for not drinking independent brewery ****, these are a few of my favorite beers:

http://www.belch.com/img/bmbottle.gif
...Suck it.

Blue Moon is the ****, one of my favs.

EvilMonkey
05-18-2007, 03:37 PM
http://www.realbeer.com/nmvbp/graphics/gif/newglrsc.gif
Not my personal favorite but really good and definately in my top 5 and only one of my favs that i didnt see mentioned so far.

Shane P. Hallam
05-18-2007, 03:41 PM
Now that I am 21, I finally get to drink beer. Yvengling has been my best experience so far

duckseason
05-18-2007, 03:43 PM
http://www.realbeer.com/nmvbp/graphics/gif/newglrsc.gif
Not my personal favorite but really good and definately in my top 5 and only one of my favs that i didnt see mentioned so far.

Nice. I've never had the chance to try anything from them, but I hear a lot about them. Have you ever tried their Raspberry Tart? That seems to be the one I hear about most. Haven't really got into fruit beer/lambics yet, but I want to try that Raspberry Tart.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 03:47 PM
i still think the best microbrews in the US are in colorado. flying dog breweries makes an EXCELLENT golden ale and a superb IPA. tommyknocker is fantastic (just about any variety). new belgium's blue paddle is one of the best pilsener's i've had. anything at breckenridge brewery is terrific, though avalanche is my favorite.
Dude. You forgot to mention Great Divide. Have you tried the Yeti or Hercules? They make an excellent barley wine as well. Old Ruffian. One of my favorite breweries. But I think San Diego takes the cake as far as best microbreweries in one area. As a state, it's gotta be California for sure. Just my opinion though.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 03:50 PM
I agree though, njx. Colorado kills it. I hear they have a lot of great brew pubs down there too. I want to visit.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 03:54 PM
Now that I am 21, I finally get to drink beer. Yvengling has been my best experience so far

Yuengling is a great standby. You need to drink plenty of other stuff. I recommend going to a taphouse or brewery and having some microbrews.

sweetness34
05-18-2007, 03:56 PM
I'm more of a hard alcohol guy personally. Beer is alright once in a while but I like hard better. Although I don't drink that much. I do really like Sam Adams though. Not a big fan of the domestics because they all taste like cat piss.

-black
05-18-2007, 03:57 PM
It's called moderation and responsibility. Would you not drive a car because some people are idiots and get into car crashes?



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pretty bad contrast comparing a drug to driving. I wont drink because first off im under age (lol im not 21) but even then (im sure most of you drank before 21) i have seen it change peoples behavior, personality, and character first hand. Thats something I dont want to play with. I see zero benefits from drinking......zero. Its a drug to me (which was once banned) and i could care less if its socially acceptable. So is selling drugs, smoking weed, and jacking cars where im from. Just doesnt mean its acceptable for me. If you feel you can handle it or it doesnt effect you (which is what every drinker says, regardless of if their dependant or not) then fine by me....have drinking games, drink when your depressed, and have a beer everyday. It is what it is

duckseason
05-18-2007, 03:59 PM
heh, i just went for some quick ones. single track is also absolutely terrific.

i like a lot of california brews, and maybe i just haven't had enough, but i've found ours tend to taste better. *shrug* that said, i love anchor steam.

Yeah, Anchor Steam is a classic. Love their porter as well, and Old Foghorn is an underrated barley wine. Other great California breweries include- Russian River, Stone, Alesmith, Port, Bear Republic, Sierra Nevada, North Coast, Green Flash, Anderson Valley, Lagunitas etc... Damn there's too many. Bunch of ones I haven't even tried yet. I recommend all the ones I listed though.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:01 PM
all right, i have to ask. what the hell do you people see in sam adams? i'd rather drink key light. clearly i'm biased, but i've always wondered why people under 40 like it.

Dave Chappelle? haha. Yeah, I dunno. They are certainly the best macrobrewery we have (unless you include Sierra Nevada in that), but I don't see much but mediocrity coming from them.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:03 PM
Yeah, hey black, just because you drink beer doesn't mean you have to get drunk. I usually just enjoy a beer after dinner. It's actually quite healthy for you when consumed in moderation.

-black
05-18-2007, 04:03 PM
caffeine is a drug that alters people's behaviour and that they use when depressed. can i safely assume you also don't drink soda, coffee or most teas?

so can prescription medecines. Still not comparable to alcohol

lol @ a father beating his children because he drank 1 too many sprites

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:05 PM
so can prescription medecines. Still not comparable to alcohol

lol @ a father beating his children because he drank 1 too many sprites
Don't blame beer for dumbasses. Beer is a great thing, and it demands respect.

gbpackers0065
05-18-2007, 04:09 PM
Cool. What all have you tried? I mean, style-wise?

edit- Dude I love that sig. Been meaning to compliment you on that for awhile.

ha thanks, ive tried everything from Sam Adams lagers to homemade stuff friends made but i have only had light beer once in my life

-black
05-18-2007, 04:09 PM
lol its cool. Just not something for me. Seen it hurt too many innocent people for my liking

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 04:11 PM
all right, i have to ask. what the hell do you people see in sam adams? i'd rather drink key light. clearly i'm biased, but i've always wondered why people under 40 like it.

I enjoy Sams in certain situations. It is not my go to, but it is enerally consistent, takes a long time to skunkify, and there is a lot of variety there. It is a solid performer and has a solid overall body and taste. Never an all-star, but never a disappointment.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:11 PM
ha thanks, ive tried everything from Sam Adams lagers to homemade stuff friends made but i have only had light beer once in my life

Which was the heineken, correct?

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:13 PM
lol its cool. Just not something for me. Seen it hurt too many innocent people for my liking

Yeah, alcohol has greatly affected my family as well. My real dad chose it over me and my brothers. Recently died. But ignorance is to blame. Not the beer.

bsaza2358
05-18-2007, 04:15 PM
I like certain Sam Adams beer, and I will drink it if it's on special or offered to me at a party. It's not my favorite, but it is a solid option that never disappoints me.

gbpackers0065
05-18-2007, 04:16 PM
Which was the heineken, correct?

god no, im sure heine light is gross i had light beer once in college and never went back again

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 04:16 PM
Three points. 1. I have 12 Leinenkugel Sunset Wheats in my fridge. I'm pumped.

2. Duckseason, I went to San Diego for a long weekend two years ago. Maybe I missed out their good microbrews, which ones were you referring to.

3. Anchor Steam is very good. I have to drive to this liquor store pretty far away from my house every year just to get a case of their Christmas Ale which has become standard in my house on Christmas. I'd love to try their Summer Ale but have yet to.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:17 PM
i just don't think i've ever liked any of their brews. the regular one is barely palatable. it seems like the kind of thing 40+'s drink because it's like coors but with a classier name. *shrug*

I agree. There is absolutely no reason to spend money on their beers when there are so many great ones available at the same price. I give them credit for at least being creative and actually caring about the beer though. At least they don't try to sell "cold" in there beers.

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 04:18 PM
Try to Sam Adam's White Ale. Its not out anymore. In fact its only around for a short period of time every year. That is probably my favorite Sam option. Out probably from late Feb to mid April.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:20 PM
god no, im sure heine light is gross i had light beer once in college and never went back again
Oh. I just assumed you were referring to the heineken because it is a very light lager. I don't even consider "light beer" to be beer at all. I meant style-wise. You know? There are hundreds of styles Ale, and hundreds of styles of lagers.

TitleTown088
05-18-2007, 04:20 PM
pasted from the baseball thread
yeah, i like the leine's. not my favorite wisconsin micro (see Lakefront Brewery), but very good.
-Sunset Wheat is my favorite Leine's brew and my favorite Wheat beer of all time. they hit it right on the head for that one.
-But, they just put out a new summer beer called Summer Shandy. it is beer with a lot of lemon flavoring. it is waaaaaaaaay better than i thought it'd be when i heard about it. perfectly blended summer beer. tastes like the perfect combo of beer and lemonade.
-Leine's Honeyweiss is kinda their flagship. i think they kinda sold out on it recently and are using less honey. still decent though.
-Leine's Berryweiss is another fruity wheat beer. chicks love it.
-they are now marketing the idea of mixing leine's honey and leine's berry. calling it "Leinenkugel's Honeyberry" they don't sell it specifically. the drinker needs to buy 2 6-packs and mix it on their own. it is very good. i like the sum better than both of the parts.
-Leinies Creamy Dark is exactly what it sounds like. it's worth a try, but if you want a dark beer, you can do better.
-Leines Red-GREAT red beer. my second favorite in the Leine's line.
-then theirs original and light, which I'd never buy.
Drowe, I used to respect you. However, upon learign that you think lene's sunset wheat is their best beer I may have to rethink that. That crap tastes like my seven year old sister's room/ meets frutie pebbles with all that fruity crap. Anyways, Beer is for amatures/sundays/sporting events. DRINK WHISKEY!

-black
05-18-2007, 04:23 PM
*shrug* never heard of a father beating his children just because he had one beer. i know it's not for everyone, but the people who swear it off tend to have fairly condescending reasons that either make me an alcoholic because i like the way beer tastes, or make me an abusive father/husband because i like to get drunk on occasion.

Are you impying I sound like im pointing the finger or being houlier than thou? If yall can handle it then kudos to you. Im talking about strictly for me. I dont know if I could, I see the worse examples and it scares me away. I thought I could handle sex, and became DEPENDENT on it....i'm easily hooked. Now i got a lil 1 to look after at 18. Im not sure I personally could handle it, which is why I will never try. No benefits for me, just a possibility of big trouble in the future

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:26 PM
Three points. 1. I have 12 Leinenkugel Sunset Wheats in my fridge. I'm pumped.

2. Duckseason, I went to San Diego for a long weekend two years ago. Maybe I missed out their good microbrews, which ones were you referring to.

3. Anchor Steam is very good. I have to drive to this liquor store pretty far away from my house every year just to get a case of their Christmas Ale which has become standard in my house on Christmas. I'd love to try their Summer Ale but have yet to.

Dude. You gotta try Alesmith, Stone, Pizza Port, and Green Flash. Those are the ones that I've tried, and they are all regarded as some of the best breweries in the country. I've loved every beer I've had from those 4. There are many others, but I haven't yet had the opportunity of trying anything from them. Here's a link I just dug up.

http://www.sandiegobrewersguild.org/Breweries.html

bored of education
05-18-2007, 04:32 PM
speaking of beers, im outro! 2.50 for 23.5 oz budweisers.
plus black diamond steak special for dinner awesome

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 04:33 PM
Dude. You gotta try Alesmith, Stone, Pizza Port, and Green Flash. Those are the ones that I've tried, and they are all regarded as some of the best breweries in the country. I've loved every beer I've had from those 4. There are many others, but I haven't yet had the opportunity of trying anything from them. Here's a link I just dug up.

http://www.sandiegobrewersguild.org/Breweries.html

All I had there that was native to San Diego was Carl Strauss, and it was very not special. Not bad but not special. Their brewery/restaurant was the next block over from my hotel. And they seemed to have it at every bar.

jkpigskin
05-18-2007, 04:37 PM
alcohol is overrated

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:38 PM
All I had there that was native to San Diego was Carl Strauss, and it was very not special. Not bad but not special. Their brewery/restaurant was the next block over from my hotel. And they seemed to have it at every bar.
Huh, well that sucks. I'm don't think you'll be able to find anything in your area from the other 3 breweries I listed, but Stone does distribute to Jersey. I'd recommend any and all their beers. You missed out on this years Russian Imperial Stout though.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:40 PM
btw, just because i hate everyone, i'm enjoying a fat tire at work, right now. there are very few things on earth better than a slow friday afternoon.

Nice. Dude, I can't believe I forgot about Avery in my earlier post. My second favorite Colorado brewery. Have you tried anything from them?

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 04:40 PM
Huh, well that sucks. I'm don't think you'll be able to find anything in your area from the other 3 breweries I listed, but Stone does distribute to Jersey. I'd recommend any and all their beers. You missed out on this years Russian Imperial Stout though.

Never had Stone but that gargoyle logo definately is familiar. I've seen it around here. I'll try it. I think the problem was I didn't really go to any of the brewery's. Karl Strauss seemed to be in every bar imaginable.

EvilMonkey
05-18-2007, 04:43 PM
Nice. I've never had the chance to try anything from them, but I hear a lot about them. Have you ever tried their Raspberry Tart? That seems to be the one I hear about most. Haven't really got into fruit beer/lambics yet, but I want to try that Raspberry Tart.

I think it's pretty good which says a lot cuz i dont really like stuff like that, i like to just stick to the Spotted Cow if i have a choice.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:45 PM
I think it's pretty good which says a lot cuz i dont really like stuff like that, i like to just stick to the Spotted Cow if i have a choice.

Nice. If I ever see anything from them around here I'll definitely pick some up.

portermvp84
05-18-2007, 04:49 PM
Just how much beer did you drink at the Bud brewery? Enough to make you forget you were in St. Louis?

Is that where I was? I was really hammered.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 04:53 PM
Never had Stone but that gargoyle logo definately is familiar. I've seen it around here. I'll try it. I think the problem was I didn't really go to any of the brewery's. Karl Strauss seemed to be in every bar imaginable.

Their next limited release is the Vertical Epic. It will be out on 07-07-07. I hear this years version will be a Saison/(some other belgian style.) The idea behind the vertical epic was to come out with 11 beers starting on 02-02-02 and ending on 12-12-12. Then they would be consumed in a vertical tasting at some point soon thereafter. So far, they've all been belgian styles. Anyway, I've only got the 05 and 06. Wasn't around when the others came out. But I thought I'd give you the heads up because those things will fly off the shelf. A bottle of the '02 recently sold for $400 on ebay. Look for their anniversary ale in August as well. Last years ranks as one of my favorite beers of all time.

Jughead10
05-18-2007, 04:56 PM
Their next limited release is the Vertical Epic. It will be out on 07-07-07. I hear this years version will be a Saison/(some other belgian style.) The idea behind the vertical epic was to come out with 11 beers starting on 02-02-02 and ending on 12-12-12. Then they would be consumed in a vertical tasting at some point soon thereafter. So far, they've all been belgian styles. Anyway, I've only got the 05 and 06. Wasn't around when the others came out. But I thought I'd give you the heads up because those things will fly off the shelf. A bottle of the '02 recently sold for $400 on ebay. Look for their anniversary ale in August as well. Last years ranks as one of my favorite beers of all time.

I wonder if those Epics will even reach NJ. We may only get their "core" styles.

moc182
05-18-2007, 04:58 PM
all right, i have to ask. what the hell do you people see in sam adams? i'd rather drink key light. clearly i'm biased, but i've always wondered why people under 40 like it.


I'm with you there, I;ve never liked Sam Adams, also with you on Anchor, Anchor Porter is one of my favorites. Smithwick's is probably still my favorite, but being in upstate New York a lot lately I've had a lot of Saranac and their Black and Tan and Black Forest are both excellent.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-18-2007, 04:59 PM
You missed out on this years Russian Imperial Stout though.

I can typically handle dark beer, but the last Russian Imperial Stout I had (Rasputin's? I'm not sure if that's the name of the brewery, but it's his picture on the label) was just far too much for me to handle. The moment that thing stopped being ice cold it was like trying to drink a loaf of dry bread covered with cough syrup.

Ugh.

awfullyquiet
05-18-2007, 05:03 PM
mmm. beer.

dogfishhead's 90 IPA is one of the better beers i've had.
same with the goose island brews. thank god for chicago. and goose island.

also.
i miss going out to bars and having yuengling. that's a major disappointment about living in the midwest.
but, positive is this. dear cleveland. one of the great things you have given me is great lakes brewing co. and the holy moses deliciousness.
burning river is also good. but, it may be one of the stranger ones i've drank. the pale ale got alot of power.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 05:05 PM
I wonder if those Epics will even reach NJ. We may only get their "core" styles.

I'm pretty sure they do. They recently moved into a larger brewery, so they're able to make more now. I think they make a good effort to ship all their limited releases in a fair manner. You might talk to your local beer-monger and see if he plans on getting some in. I'm positive somebody in New Jersey will be getting some in though. But you're right, it might be hard to track down. If worst came to worst and you really wanted to get some- these guys will have some for sure-
http://www.liquidsolutions.biz/main/

They have a ton of great beers, and the guy who runs the place really takes great care to make sure your beer arrives in the best condition possible. I've never personally ordered from them though, because I can get all the same beers here locally. They do charge a bit extra though. Like maybe .30 per bomber. But that's just a last resort kinda thing I thought you might like to know about. Not just for the Epic.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 05:12 PM
I can typically handle dark beer, but the last Russian Imperial Stout I had (Rasputin's? I'm not sure if that's the name of the brewery, but it's his picture on the label) was just far too much for me to handle. The moment that thing stopped being ice cold it was like trying to drink a loaf of dry bread covered with cough syrup.

Ugh.

WHOA! Dude I just had an Old Raspy last night! LMAO! I guess that's just not your cup of tea. Try aging one. It'll mellow out a bit. Ideally, you should drink Russian Imperial's (and all other strong beers) at around 55-60 degrees. Maybe it was actually too cold. I always pull my beer out of the fridge 20-30 minutes before I even pop the cap. But yeah, a lot of people don't like RIS's. I think it might just be my favorite style. Raspy is a classic. Not my favorite, but very good. Brewery is North Coast, btw.

duckseason
05-18-2007, 05:18 PM
mmm. beer.

dogfishhead's 90 IPA is one of the better beers i've had.
same with the goose island brews. thank god for chicago. and goose island.

Hell yeah. 90 minute is one of my favorite DIPA's. Might be the most balanced one I've tried. Most lean heavily on the hops (which I like), but the 90 has the extra malt to really give it a nice balance. You gotta love dogfish head's inventiveness. Although some of their crazy brews have been complete misses. 90 minute is one of my staples though. Have you dared try the 120? I thought about getting a few and laying them down for a decade or so. haha. Not sure how that one would be fresh.


edit- haven't yet had the opportunity to try anything from Goose Island. I've heard great things about their IPA in particular though.

TitleTown088
05-18-2007, 05:49 PM
alcohol is overrated
You're overrated. Alcohol is excellent.

tEk
05-18-2007, 06:08 PM
I don't care if I get flamed for not drinking independent brewery ****, these are a few of my favorite beers:

http://www.belch.com/img/bmbottle.gif






its ok i like this one too.

awfullyquiet
05-18-2007, 06:12 PM
Hell yeah. 90 minute is one of my favorite DIPA's. Might be the most balanced one I've tried. Most lean heavily on the hops (which I like), but the 90 has the extra malt to really give it a nice balance. You gotta love dogfish head's inventiveness. Although some of their crazy brews have been complete misses. 90 minute is one of my staples though. Have you dared try the 120? I thought about getting a few and laying them down for a decade or so. haha. Not sure how that one would be fresh.


edit- haven't yet had the opportunity to try anything from Goose Island. I've heard great things about their IPA in particular though.

GI's Imperial IPA is probably one of the best i've ever had. It's phenomenal. And i could drink five of those in a sitting (as long as i had some quality food. actually, i could really go for a pita and an imperial IPA... note. it is friday. that's the agenda). It's got massive hops, and the malt is second to none. If for any reason you make a trip to chicago. Go.

Now dogfishhead is really creative. They get the gold star for creating extreme beers. The 120 (jan 06 batch) wasn't nearly as good as the 90's have ever been. I should probably invest in another case of the 120, get myself ****** up, and then compare it to the nineties. see if i can get a may or sept case. I've liked their summer beers better than their winter beers. Pangea is a so-so beer. the concept is really cool (ingredents from all seven continents, and antartic water), but it doesn't really pull through how i like it. black and blue is gooooood stuff. makes me want carrot cake every time i drink it.

i need to go to binny's. stat.

edit: there's nothing wrong with not drinking from indie breweries.
there's at least 100 good commercial beers you can drink.
topping that list is newcastle brown ale.

kwilk103
05-18-2007, 06:23 PM
my two favs

i.c. light
http://www.pittsburghbrewingco.com/images/main/ic_light.jpg

http://rreu.11net.com/yuengling/lager/ynglager.jpg

duckseason
05-18-2007, 06:46 PM
Damn aq, you know your beer. You buy 120 by the case! Now I've got to try it for sure. I've read mixed reviews on it, so I balked at the price tag. Some people love it, some abhor it. Everybody suggests it will improve greatly with age. I think I'll buy one and try it, and go from there. Damn things are like 7 bucks for a 12 ouncer though.

Speaking of beers that use ingredients from all over- have you tried the "Fred" from Hair of the dog? I doubt it's available out there, but it's one of my favorites. They use 10 hop varieties from 7(?) different countries "in an effort to incorporate the whole world into this beer." Yummy stuff. Great fresh, and even better with a few years on it. It was named after beer writer/historian Fred Eckhardt. Hair of the Dog is the best brewery in Portland, and might just be my favorite. The "Adam" might just be my favorite beer (although I doubt any beer could ever hold that title), and the "Doggie Claws" is one of my favorite Barley Wines.

Never had a chance to try the Black and Blue. I never saw it around here. Do they still brew it? That's a fruit beer right? Blueberry/Blackberry?

awfullyquiet
05-18-2007, 07:55 PM
Damn aq, you know your beer. You buy 120 by the case! Now I've got to try it for sure. I've read mixed reviews on it, so I balked at the price tag. Some people love it, some abhor it. Everybody suggests it will improve greatly with age. I think I'll buy one and try it, and go from there. Damn things are like 7 bucks for a 12 ouncer though.

Speaking of beers that use ingredients from all over- have you tried the "Fred" from Hair of the dog? I doubt it's available out there, but it's one of my favorites. They use 10 hop varieties from 7(?) different countries "in an effort to incorporate the whole world into this beer." Yummy stuff. Great fresh, and even better with a few years on it. It was named after beer writer/historian Fred Eckhardt. Hair of the Dog is the best brewery in Portland, and might just be my favorite. The "Adam" might just be my favorite beer (although I doubt any beer could ever hold that title), and the "Doggie Claws" is one of my favorite Barley Wines.

Never had a chance to try the Black and Blue. I never saw it around here. Do they still brew it? That's a fruit beer right? Blueberry/Blackberry?

Black and Blue is the belgian. They should still brew it. It might be a seasonal one though.

As far as the case of 120. It's like 200 bucks. but it last me well over a year with a few friends. It's great. but it's not supurb. Get one. Enjoy the hell out of it. The 90 is still better for sure, and at a better price tag. It's still the safer bet.

I have not tried Hair of the Dog. Mostly because I've never been able to find it out here. They might have it at the super beer bar (aka, Hopleaf... best beer selection i have ever seen...). Oy. Never been the biggest fan of barley wines though.

yourfavestoner
05-18-2007, 07:59 PM
All I know is that after drinking liberal amounts of it in my first year of college, I never want to drink Natty Ice ever again.

jkpigskin
05-18-2007, 09:53 PM
You're overrated. Alcohol is excellent.

no need to neg rep me... but watev, i just dont see wats so good about alcohol... it tastes bad, makes u act like a ******... im just not a drinker... watev

Moses
05-18-2007, 11:41 PM
no need to neg rep me... but watev, i just dont see wats so good about alcohol... it tastes bad, makes u act like a ******... im just not a drinker... watev

I can't help but point out that you're likely young, probably 16 or so at most. I love the taste of alcohol. Beer is one of my favourite beverages. Mixed drinks are also up there. If drank in moderation, alcohol doesn't change how you act at all. Even if you're drunk, you don't necessarily act like an idiot, it depends on the person.

sweetness34
05-19-2007, 12:58 AM
I can't help but point out that you're likely young, probably 16 or so at most. I love the taste of alcohol. Beer is one of my favourite beverages. Mixed drinks are also up there. If drank in moderation, alcohol doesn't change how you act at all. Even if you're drunk, you don't necessarily act like an idiot, it depends on the person.

I'm a happy drunk. I just sit around and smile at everyone. Then there's the violent drunks who get start fights with everyone. Then there's the loud drunks who yell all the time. The hyper drunks who run around all the time. The sulking drunks who sit on the couch and don't say anything.

For women: The bitchy drunks, nuff said about that one. The slutty drunks, again nuff said. The wild drunks, girls who step out from their personalities when they drink.

TH3
05-19-2007, 01:03 AM
I am not a fan of most beer I enjoy Shiner Bach though

Moses
05-19-2007, 01:06 AM
I'm a happy drunk. I just sit around and smile at everyone. Then there's the violent drunks who get start fights with everyone. Then there's the loud drunks who yell all the time. The hyper drunks who run around all the time. The sulking drunks who sit on the couch and don't say anything.

For women: The bitchy drunks, nuff said about that one. The slutty drunks, again nuff said. The wild drunks, girls who step out from their personalities when they drink.

I love drinking with people for the first time to see how they change.

As for myself, I'd say I'm a mix. Normally, I'm pretty shy around people I don't very well. When I drink, I'm way more outgoing and my pickup skills improve a lot. Biggest negative for me when drinking is that I'll get into altercations more often. That said, I still maintain that most aren't my fault.

sweetness34
05-19-2007, 01:13 AM
I love drinking with people for the first time to see how they change.

As for myself, I'd say I'm a mix. Normally, I'm pretty shy around people I don't very well. When I drink, I'm way more outgoing and my pickup skills improve a lot. Biggest negative for me when drinking is that I'll get into altercations more often. That said, I still maintain that most aren't my fault.

See I'm a pretty easy going guy to begin with and I don't really change. I mean if someone pisses me off I'll get roudy, but usually I'm one of those guys who just laughs at everything and gets lovie dovie towards girls. I think when I drink I tell at least one girl I love them. It's pretty funny actually. I'm not a big drinker though. Out of all my friends I consume the least amount of alcohol.

Moses
05-19-2007, 01:29 AM
See I'm a pretty easy going guy to begin with and I don't really change. I mean if someone pisses me off I'll get roudy, but usually I'm one of those guys who just laughs at everything and gets lovie dovie towards girls. I think when I drink I tell at least one girl I love them. It's pretty funny actually. I'm not a big drinker though. Out of all my friends I consume the least amount of alcohol.

I'm the same way. I'll usually avoid conflict but if somebody really pisses me off I'll almost assuredly try to fight them. As for girls, my beer goggles have a very strong prescription and I'll hit on anything that moves basically. That said, I don't have a reputation as a dragon slayer and I usually come to my senses before I do something I'll regret.

sweetness34
05-19-2007, 01:32 AM
I'm the same way. I'll usually avoid conflict but if somebody really pisses me off I'll almost assuredly try to fight them. As for girls, my beer goggles have a very strong prescription and I'll hit on anything that moves basically. That said, I don't have a reputation as a dragon slayer and I usually come to my senses before I do something I'll regret.

To tell you the truth, I've maybe hooked up with one girl, maybe. I'm not quite sure what happened that one night, my friends said something did happen but she said nothing didn't, and I wasn't sober enough to remember anything.

Like you though I have pretty good judgement, even when I'm intoxicated. I know not to drive drunk and I usually don't hook up with girls. I just hit on them, haha.

Moses
05-19-2007, 01:37 AM
To tell you the truth, I've maybe hooked up with one girl, maybe. I'm not quite sure what happened that one night, my friends said something did happen but she said nothing didn't, and I wasn't sober enough to remember anything.

Like you though I have pretty good judgement, even when I'm intoxicated. I know not to drive drunk and I usually don't hook up with girls. I just hit on them, haha.

Don't worry, my conversion rate on girls is pretty bad also. My opening game is good but the wheels always fall off late in the game, haha.

Drinking and driving is a big no-no. I've had enough tragedy involving drinking and driving and just driving in general to know not to mess with it.

Hitting on girls drunk is a lot of fun. Getting rejected never hurts as much (if at all) and a lot of funny stories stem from drunk pickup sessions.

sweetness34
05-19-2007, 01:43 AM
Don't worry, my conversion rate on girls is pretty bad also. My opening game is good but the wheels always fall off late in the game, haha.

Drinking and driving is a big no-no. I've had enough tragedy involving drinking and driving and just driving in general to know not to mess with it.

Hitting on girls drunk is a lot of fun. Getting rejected never hurts as much (if at all) and a lot of funny stories stem from drunk pickup sessions.

Well being drunk gives you an excuse to use a bunch of pathetic pickup lines. Haha I break out the book on those. I've used the pants party, the did you fall from heaven one, the parking ticket one, and a bunch of others. Girls usually just crack up and start laughing. Although my conversion rate with them sucks, but hey I don't mind. I don't really put to much stock into not getting lucky on a night of drinking. If I score I score, if I don't I don't.

I do like watching my friends get drunk though with me stayin sober. It's a lot of fun to see how they act and stuff on a sober mind.

Moses
05-19-2007, 01:46 AM
Well being drunk gives you an excuse to use a bunch of pathetic pickup lines. Haha I break out the book on those. I've used the pants party, the did you fall from heaven one, the parking ticket one, and a bunch of others. Girls usually just crack up and start laughing. Although my conversion rate with them sucks, but hey I don't mind. I don't really put to much stock into not getting lucky on a night of drinking. If I score I score, if I don't I don't.

I do like watching my friends get drunk though with me stayin sober. It's a lot of fun to see how they act and stuff on a sober mind.

I don't even know what I do when I'm drinking but it tends to work. My best (almost) pick-up ever I thought I had imagined until the next day when a buddy confirmed it. I remember planning it out in my mind but I didn't remember actually doing it until later.

I agree 100% with not caring if you score or not. I just like to have fun and see where the liquor takes me. In the past year I've had so many crazy adventures that it's tough remembering them all. For me, that's what it's all about.

duckseason
05-19-2007, 03:45 AM
Black and Blue is the belgian. They should still brew it. It might be a seasonal one though. So the blueberry/blackberry didn't really come through much? Huh, I just looked it up and seems it was released last month. WTF New Seasons? I want some!

As far as the case of 120. It's like 200 bucks. but it last me well over a year with a few friends. It's great. but it's not supurb. Get one. Enjoy the hell out of it. The 90 is still better for sure, and at a better price tag. It's still the safer bet.
So have you thought about aging any of the 120s? Usually when I buy a whole case it's because it's a rare beer and it will likely do well with some years on it.

I have not tried Hair of the Dog. Mostly because I've never been able to find it out here. They might have it at the super beer bar (aka, Hopleaf... best beer selection i have ever seen...). Oy. Never been the biggest fan of barley wines though.
Yeah, I just checked their website and it's not available in Illinois. Oh well. Anyway, how the heck don't you like barley wines? If you like DIPA's, I'd think you'd at least enjoy Bigfoot from Sierra Nevada. Are the ones you've tried just too malty? Too sweet? I can't imagine strength being an issue for you. Which ones have you tried so far?

jkpigskin
05-19-2007, 07:10 AM
I can't help but point out that you're likely young, probably 16 or so at most. I love the taste of alcohol. Beer is one of my favourite beverages. Mixed drinks are also up there. If drank in moderation, alcohol doesn't change how you act at all. Even if you're drunk, you don't necessarily act like an idiot, it depends on the person.

acually im 18, and most of my friends get smashed on the weekends...
i just done see the point of it..
i have nothing wrong with drinking in moderation, but kids in high school dont drink beer as its a delicacy, they drink beer to act "cool" and get smashed.

im just afraid that it wont have to take somebody getting hurt for them to realize the consequences of binge and watnot

Jimmy
05-19-2007, 07:58 AM
to be honest, at this age, (16) i havent acquired a taste for it yet, and i dont plan on rushing it. I've had some here and there, and I just don't see the big deal. The few times i know i have been drunk, i didn't really find the buzz to be that great. There is really no point for a 16 year old boarding school student to force himself to get smashed, because I really don't need it, and i have no craving for alcohol, nor do i to drink it for kicks. I'm actually fortunate for that, but hey, i realize its the age factor, as im only 16

drowe
05-19-2007, 08:17 AM
i heard something about dogfishhead IPA being rated the best domestic IPA. so i tried it...it was pretty good..i've had better, but personal preference.

my all time favorite IPA is from brewery here in town called Titletown. it's called Hoposaurus Rex IPA. probably the most bitter beer i've ever had. then sometimes they age it in a cask and call it Caskosaurus Rex IPA. and that comes out even more bitter.

drowe
05-19-2007, 08:23 AM
also, last night, i had no time to go to a fancy liquor store, so, i just went to the grocery store and got a 12 of leine's sunset wheat. drank 6 or 7 of 'em last night
it was excellent

drowe
05-19-2007, 08:32 AM
ok, my dream 6 pack

Lakefront Riverwest Stein Beer-Milwaukee, WI-amber. favorite beer of all time.
Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat-Chippewa Falls, WI-favorite wheat beer ever.
Tyranena Hop W.hore IPA-Tyranena, WI (near Madison)-any beer that gets censored has got to be good. it's hella bitter too.
Bell's Two Hearted Ale-Kalamazoo, MI-so good.
Red Hook ESB-Seattle, WA-yeah, i like the bitter beers.
Capital Munich Dark-Madison, WI-only dark beer in my six pack

Moses
05-19-2007, 12:18 PM
acually im 18, and most of my friends get smashed on the weekends...
i just done see the point of it..
i have nothing wrong with drinking in moderation, but kids in high school dont drink beer as its a delicacy, they drink beer to act "cool" and get smashed.

im just afraid that it wont have to take somebody getting hurt for them to realize the consequences of binge and watnot

To each his own. Getting drunk can be fun and the consequences don't generally exist.

P-L
05-19-2007, 05:18 PM
I usually drink cheap beer. However, when I feel like spending a few extra bucks I'll grab a Sunset Wheat, Blue Moon, or Bell's Oberon.

awfullyquiet
05-19-2007, 06:08 PM
So the blueberry/blackberry didn't really come through much? Huh, I just looked it up and seems it was released last month. WTF New Seasons? I want some!


blueberry/blackberry still sounds good.


So have you thought about aging any of the 120s? Usually when I buy a whole case it's because it's a rare beer and it will likely do well with some years on it.


normally i give them 6-8 months. it's not necessarly rare beers that do well with aging, it's the DIPA's that do well with more aging.


Yeah, I just checked their website and it's not available in Illinois. Oh well. Anyway, how the heck don't you like barley wines? If you like DIPA's, I'd think you'd at least enjoy Bigfoot from Sierra Nevada. Are the ones you've tried just too malty? Too sweet? I can't imagine strength being an issue for you. Which ones have you tried so far?

it's the sweet-malt-alcohol combo that throws me off. the bitterness/sweet combo really makes my taste buds cringe. beerline from lakefront in milwaukee... and uh. i think i had something from rogue. i don't remember what. and the full complement of 'strong' ales. i mean, i can enjoy the brandywine barley wine from goose island, i love the taste brandy casks add to anything.

Belish
05-19-2007, 06:20 PM
Well, I live in Ontario and the LCBO monopoly prevents us from getting a lot of the good American microbrews, so we're stuck with the mainstream imports and occasionally some decent Canadian microbrews.

My all-time favourite brew is Hoegaarden. I also like all of Unibroue's stuff. If I'm going buck-a-beer, I go with Lakeport Honey. I'm rounding up some friends to do some brewery tours this summer. We want to go to Mill Street and Steam Whistle here in Toronto, and maybe do a road trip to Quebec to go to the McAuslan brewery.

duckseason
05-19-2007, 06:45 PM
normally i give them 6-8 months. it's not necessarly rare beers that do well with aging, it's the DIPA's that do well with more aging.
That's not what I meant. I meant that I prefer to buy by the case if something is rare and worth aging. I'd buy it by the case knowing that it won't be around long. I have to disagree about the DIPA's. Some are worth aging, but that's rare. Of all the stronger styles, DIPA's are at the bottom of the list as far as aging potential. Reason being that the main thing that makes them so great is that strong hop character. That is what those beers are all about. The first thing to leave a beer is the hop flavor. So they're best fresh, and usually recommended by the brewer to be consumed fresh. Otherwise they wouldn't spend all that time and money pouring hops into the beer in the first place. They'd just make a different style. I like to age Imperial Stouts and Barley Wines mostly. They benefit greatly. Gueze is another great candidate. Basically everything from Jolly Pumpkin will do well with age, but not many people can back that statement because their beers haven't been on the shelves long enough to know for sure. I recently tried a "La Roja" though, and I'm positive it will improve greatly with a few years on it. Old style ales such as Old Stock from North Coast, JW Lees Harvest Ale, and Thomas Hardy's are perfect beers to age as well. Also, Rauchbier's are excellent with years on them. It's almost a necessity for a lot of those smoked beers. Like the Alaskan Smoked Porter. It's regarded as one of the very best beers for aging despite it's meager 6.5 ABV.

I realize the history of India Pale Ales, and the fact that they put all those hops in there to help the beer survive the long trip. Of course those DIPA's will last a long time. They have high alcohol and tons of hops. But just because it will age, doesn't mean it will be better for it. Just my opinion though. I would imagine the 120 would damn near need at least a few years on it. But that's just based off what I've heard about it. I can't imagine a beer of that strength being very palatable while fresh. Can't wait to try one though and scout it's potential for myself.


it's the sweet-malt-alcohol combo that throws me off. the bitterness/sweet combo really makes my taste buds cringe. beerline from lakefront in milwaukee... and uh. i think i had something from rogue. i don't remember what. and the full complement of 'strong' ales. i mean, i can enjoy the brandywine barley wine from goose island, i love the taste brandy casks add to anything.
Try the beers from Jolly Pumpkin. I think you'll enjoy the bourbon flavors that come through in most of their beers. Not Barley Wines, but very interesting beers that I think you might enjoy. Well, you've got to like a bit of sourness too. I hear you on the Barley Wines. That's most people's complaint. I'd still recommend the Bigfoot from Sierra Nevada though. It's leaning way more on the DIPA side than Barley Wine.

saintsfan912
05-20-2007, 07:45 AM
Not sure if anyone posted this or if anyone is from Louisiana but Abita Amber is an awesome beer with a great taste. There are 6 or 7 different varieties year round and seasonal ones as well. If you are ever around here in a bar pick one up.

I also love Shiner Bock and Shiner Blonde.

gbpackers0065
05-20-2007, 11:15 AM
http://www.boointernet.com/images/teaser_07.gif
Don't like red stripe but i love the commercials.

themaninblack
05-20-2007, 09:11 PM
12 budweisers and im set for the evening.

drowe
05-21-2007, 07:59 AM
it's the sweet-malt-alcohol combo that throws me off. the bitterness/sweet combo really makes my taste buds cringe. beerline from lakefront in milwaukee... and uh.


wait, i'm lost. i know my favorite brewery that very few people outside of wisconsin know of (lakefront) just got brought up. but, what are you saying about it?

drowe
05-21-2007, 08:02 AM
12 budweisers and im set for the evening.


sorry, but this thread is about BEER.

drowe
05-21-2007, 01:03 PM
is it too early in the week to start talking about beer again?

bsaza2358
05-21-2007, 01:05 PM
It is never too early to talk about beer. The response we got last week was incredible, though.

Jughead10
05-21-2007, 01:07 PM
I'm heading down to the Outer Banks in North Carolina for a week starting Saturday morning. I plan on bringing down a case of Leine's Sunset Wheat with me because I'm guessing they don't have it there. I'm officially addicted.

bored of education
05-21-2007, 01:10 PM
pabst is awesome

awfullyquiet
05-21-2007, 01:20 PM
wait, i'm lost. i know my favorite brewery that very few people outside of wisconsin know of (lakefront) just got brought up. but, what are you saying about it?

beerline is a barleywine from lakefront? i'm from chicago. i've gone to milwaukee and had a few brews in my time. i'm not a huge fan of beerline, but their other things are mighty tasty.

Its all about The U
05-21-2007, 01:23 PM
mmmmmm beer

i once had a couch made out of beer

Giantsfan1080
05-21-2007, 01:30 PM
It's never too early in the week to talk about beer. If this was football season it would be a huge beer night.

bsaza2358
05-21-2007, 01:37 PM
I'm playing softball tonight. Ordinarily, it would be a big beer night, but I'm going right from softball to hockey. If I wanted to puke Miller Lite, I'd drink it.

Note: I just mention Miller Lite because it's cheap, and it's what we drink on the softball field.

Jughead10
05-21-2007, 01:40 PM
I'm playing softball tonight. Ordinarily, it would be a big beer night, but I'm going right from softball to hockey. If I wanted to puke Miller Lite, I'd drink it.

Note: I just mention Miller Lite because it's cheap, and it's what we drink on the softball field.

My cousin used to run the WAKA kickball league in DC. That used to be a big drinking event although I don't think they can anymore. So the chicks on the team make a crap load of Jello Shots and they try to gets as smashed as possible by eating them throughout the game.

drowe
05-21-2007, 01:44 PM
beerline is a barleywine from lakefront? i'm from chicago. i've gone to milwaukee and had a few brews in my time. i'm not a huge fan of beerline, but their other things are mighty tasty.

hmm...haven't been on the tour in over a year, and they only sell a few types up in green bay, so i've never heard of the barleywine. never a big barleywine fan in general anyway. new glaurus has a pretty good one. either way, you're getting +rep for knowing Lakefront.

awfullyquiet
05-21-2007, 03:31 PM
has anyone else tried making their own beer?

Giantsfan1080
05-21-2007, 09:20 PM
has anyone else tried making their own beer?

I haven't. It seems like too much work for what most likely would be a terrible outcome.

sweetness34
05-21-2007, 09:21 PM
has anyone else tried making their own beer?

You can go to a place and have it made, at least we have one like 30 minutes away in Peoria, IL.

My grandpa made his own wine though, it was damn good too.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-21-2007, 10:03 PM
has anyone else tried making their own beer?

I have a few friends who run breweries out of their respective basements. Once I actually get a place where that would be possible I plan on doing so, but I think my landlord my take issue with sticking some barrels and a pressure cooker in my closet or bathroom.

Jughead10
05-21-2007, 10:07 PM
has anyone else tried making their own beer?

A bunch of years ago my father got one those make your own kits for a gift. The ones where you make it in what seems like a burlap sack. It was gross. I haven't checked it out but I know there is a serious brewing store in Princeton, NJ. All sorts of flavored hops you can buy to make your own beer.

Space Ghost
05-21-2007, 10:11 PM
I have this stuff from Toronto called Steam Whistle once every couple of months probably. It is pretty good too, and apparently stays carbonated over night which is a huge plus for all those alcoholics who drink all the day and all night and want to keep going after they wake up in their own vomit. I don't really like drinking as soon as I wake up though and have never tested the truth behind this. Maybe one day I'll try it out. It has gotten pretty big though, it is relatively new, the brewery opened in 2000. People from the GTA have probably heard the Steam Whistle adds on the radio. I don't know if they sell outside of the GTA.

Space Ghost
05-21-2007, 10:13 PM
Brick Brewery is my home brewery.

http://www.brickbeer.com/desktops/brkdesk10c.jpg

For financial reasons, I have to Make 'Er A Laker.

http://www.brickbeer.com/images/main/side_laker01.jpg

Laker is possibly the worst beer I have ever tasted. It is honestly the worst beer ever known to man. If you go for a buck a beer get Lakeport, at least it isn't as ****** as Laker. God dammit dude, never make er a laker. The jingle is catchy though, make er a laker, just a buck a beer! haha.

Moses
05-21-2007, 10:22 PM
Laker is possibly the worst beer I have ever tasted. It is honestly the worst beer ever known to man. If you go for a buck a beer get Lakeport, at least it isn't as ****** as Laker. God dammit dude, never make er a laker. The jingle is catchy though, make er a laker, just a buck a beer! haha.

Laker is my 2nd favourite value-brand. I hate Lakeport, almost as much as I hate Carling. Worst beer is probably Bavaria though.

Moses
05-21-2007, 10:23 PM
I have this stuff from Toronto called Steam Whistle once every couple of months probably. It is pretty good too, and apparently stays carbonated over night which is a huge plus for all those alcoholics who drink all the day and all night and want to keep going after they wake up in their own vomit. I don't really like drinking as soon as I wake up though and have never tested the truth behind this. Maybe one day I'll try it out. It has gotten pretty big though, it is relatively new, the brewery opened in 2000. People from the GTA have probably heard the Steam Whistle adds on the radio. I don't know if they sell outside of the GTA.

I know of Steam Whistle. Not a big fan. We actually did a case study in my business class about the business.

Space Ghost
05-21-2007, 10:42 PM
Eh. The only reason I say lakeport is better than laker is because it is the first beer I ever had and it went down fine. the honey is way better than the pilsner for me. the pilsner is basically water. I just hate laker for some reason.

Steam whistle is probably the only microbrew I've had understanding that it was infact from a microbrewery. I didn't even realize that Laker was a microbrew until I opened this thread.

In a year and a bit I'll probably try some more brews when I'm legal. For now I'll stick to what I know I like which is pretty much MGD, Kahlua and Captain Morgans + Coke usually. Then if I want to get wasted, whatever there is available.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-21-2007, 10:44 PM
I've officially found my new favorite IPA.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beerimages/full_size/17012.jpg

Simply incredible. It's got a slight spiciness to it that is just wonderful.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-21-2007, 11:21 PM
image/url won't load for me (not incorrect, my network sucks). what is the beer?

Speakeasy's Imperial IPA.

KCJ58
05-21-2007, 11:24 PM
http://home.earthlink.net/~snailstales2/hefeweizen1.JPG
http://waterintowino.typepad.com/water_into_wino/images/redhook_esb.jpg

duckseason
05-22-2007, 02:39 AM
hmmm. i need to find a better liqour store after this thread.

does anyone know a good place to order online? i've bought scotch online, but only because i know the bottles i want. beer seems sketchier, since so many things could affect its quality during shipment.

I've never ordered from them myself, but Liquid Solutions is very reputable among beer enthusiasts. I've heard nothing but good things about the guy who runs it. I'd imagine that the beer wouldn't suffer any more harm than it does on it's way to your local monger. Most stores don't even treat beer with due respect. It always angers me when I walk into a store to find a big display of quality craft beer sitting on an endcap underneath the fluorescent lighting, while BMC enjoys a comfy spot in the cooler. To find out that most all stores don't keep their back stock refrigerated is equally aggravating. To pick up a bottle of beer and realize it's shelf life ended a month ago is another all too common occurrence. I've considered printing up a newsletter outlining proper beer handling, and sending it to all the stores in my area.

Anyway, I guess my point is that the beer lover who runs LS knows how to handle beer, so you'll likely receive a better product than you would at your average grocer. The temporary time spent at higher than ideal temperature during the beer's rocky journey won't have a significant impact on it's quality. They use styro-shippers, so you don't have to worry about breakage. The other great thing about LS is that they carry a ton of great beers. If it's an awesome beer, and they can get their hands on it, they get it. Just be prepared to pay a little extra for shipping, and I hear the wait could be as long as 2 weeks. Might be a good idea to call and make sure they have all the beers you want. The guy's name is Matt Maples.

http://www.liquidsolutions.biz/main/

duckseason
05-22-2007, 02:47 AM
For all you Imperial IPA lovers, be sure to try the Yulesmith Holiday Ale from Alesmith. It will be on shelves July 4th. This beer comes out twice a year (christmas as well) and is highly coveted among beer geeks. So it won't last long. I plan to get a case and drink it over the summer. Well worth it for sure. Kinda sucks though because it comes out 3 days before the vertical epic, and I need a case of that too. Anybody have a fridge for sale? Anyway it's an excellent beer, and the summer variation is slightly better than the winter, IMO. Just thought I'd give the early heads up.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-22-2007, 02:56 AM
Hey Duckseason, you at all familiar with Sudwerk's Dopple Bock?

duckseason
05-22-2007, 03:07 AM
Hey Duckseason, you at all familiar with Sudwerk's Dopple Bock?

Nope, haven't seen that up here. But I just looked it up and it sounds like something I'd love to try. Says it's a winter release. I'll keep my eye out for it, assuming you're recommending it right now. Haven't tried a ton of doppelbocks, but I love the style. My favorite is still the classic Celebrator from Ayinger. We need more German beers on the shelves. All the breweries seem to be big into Belgian's right now. I want more Rauchbier and Doppelbocks damnit!

Paranoidmoonduck
05-22-2007, 03:09 AM
A friend of mine always buys a few cases of Sudwerk's Christmas Dopplebock and hands bottles out to as many people are willing take one. Big, 34 oz. bottles with the snap top. Super classy, and the bottles always have a nice design.

Very dark and mellow beer, incredibly pleasant to drink.

duckseason
05-22-2007, 03:18 AM
A friend of mine always buys a few cases of Sudwerk's Christmas Dopplebock and hands bottles out to as many people are willing take one. Big, 34 oz. bottles with the snap top. Super classy, and the bottles always have a nice design.

Very dark and mellow beer, incredibly pleasant to drink.

That's an awesome friend. I'll keep an eye out for sure. Hell, I'd buy it just for the kick ass bottle.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-22-2007, 03:23 AM
That's an awesome friend. I'll keep an eye out for sure. Hell, I'd buy it just for the kick ass bottle.

If I had a working camera I'd post a photo of the three bottles I have to date from the last 3 years. One developed mold, but I managed to save one from this past year.

duckseason
05-22-2007, 03:29 AM
If I had a working camera I'd post a photo of the three bottles I have to date from the last 3 years. One developed mold, but I managed to save one from this past year.

Yeah, I want a nice camera bad right now. Seems like I always find myself wanting to take a picture, and my piece of crap camera on my phone is far less than adequate. So they're basically growlers right? You could take them to the brewery for a refill?

Paranoidmoonduck
05-22-2007, 03:33 AM
Yeah, I want a nice camera bad right now. Seems like I always find myself wanting to take a picture, and my piece of crap camera on my phone is far less than adequate. So they're basically growlers right? You could take them to the brewery for a refill?

I suppose, although I'm not sure the drive up to Davis would be worth it, especially considering that they stopped brewing their Christmas batch a while back. But from what I've heard the people who run the brewery are nice people, I'm sure they would accommodate.

Also, I desperately want a quality digital camera, but I can't justify dropping the $600-1500 on a hobby at this point in my life.

Jughead10
05-22-2007, 07:19 AM
A friend of mine always buys a few cases of Sudwerk's Christmas Dopplebock and hands bottles out to as many people are willing take one. Big, 34 oz. bottles with the snap top. Super classy, and the bottles always have a nice design.

Very dark and mellow beer, incredibly pleasant to drink.

I always pick up a couple of the magnum bottles of Anchor Steam Christmas Ale. They are 50.7 ozs. Here is a link where you can check it out if you aren't familiar.

http://www.anchorbrewing.com/images/pdfs/Flyer_XmasAle2006.pdf

Whats cool about this particular Christmas Ale is the artwork. The label changes every year with different depictions of a Christmas tree. I've saved the last couple of years Magnum bottles and have them on a shelf. You can check out all the labels here.

http://www.anchorbrewing.com/beers/labelspast.htm

But you probably know all about that being from San Fran. But this is a pain to get around here.

Jughead10
05-22-2007, 08:36 AM
quick, someone give me their top five reds or top five pilseners.

I'm not a huge fan of Pilsners but Victory makes a great Pils.

As for red, I guess Smithwicks is my choice there. I'll pretty much drink that nonstop from October to March.

drowe
05-22-2007, 08:43 AM
quick, someone give me their top five reds or top five pilseners.


1. Leinenkugel's Red
2. Killian's Irish Red
3. Smithwick's
4. Beamish Red
5. New Glaurus Totally Naked-not ACTUALLY an Irish Red, but it tastes like a red.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
05-22-2007, 08:48 AM
Flying Dog makes some pretty good stuff.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
05-22-2007, 08:57 AM
flying dog's old scratch is one of my favorite locals.

Old Scratch is good... In Heat Wheat is my favorite. Doggie Style is good, too. Those are the only 3 I've had.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
05-22-2007, 08:59 AM
Just a word of warning to my fellow beer drinkers: If you ever get the chance to drink this beer, DON'T. Tastes like the worst kind of rotten garbage.
http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/archives/2004-12-15-leffe.jpg

Giantsfan1080
05-22-2007, 12:40 PM
Has anyone ever had Geary's?

Paranoidmoonduck
05-22-2007, 01:46 PM
I always pick up a couple of the magnum bottles of Anchor Steam Christmas Ale. They are 50.7 ozs. Here is a link where you can check it out if you aren't familiar.

http://www.anchorbrewing.com/images/pdfs/Flyer_XmasAle2006.pdf

Whats cool about this particular Christmas Ale is the artwork. The label changes every year with different depictions of a Christmas tree. I've saved the last couple of years Magnum bottles and have them on a shelf. You can check out all the labels here.

http://www.anchorbrewing.com/beers/labelspast.htm

But you probably know all about that being from San Fran. But this is a pain to get around here.

Woah, awesome. I had no idea, but I'll definitely pick up a few of those next Christmas, especially because the brewery is a 5-10 drive from where I live.

Jughead10
05-22-2007, 01:55 PM
Has anyone ever had Anchor Summer Brew? That seems to be the one Anchor Steam that we can't get here in NJ along with the Christmas Ale.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-22-2007, 02:20 PM
Has anyone ever had Anchor Summer Brew? That seems to be the one Anchor Steam that we can't get here in NJ along with the Christmas Ale.

That's practically all I've been drinking these past few weeks. Pretty damn delicious.

Giantsfan1080
05-22-2007, 02:21 PM
That's practically all I've been drinking these past few weeks. Pretty damn delicious.

I wish I could get my hands on that. Your a lucky man.

duckseason
05-22-2007, 03:30 PM
quick, someone give me their top five reds or top five pilseners.

Sounds like I'm late to the party on this, but I'll answer anyway. I don't drink a ton of red's, but that has more to do with availability more than anything else. I'd say that my favorite is Red Rocket Ale from Bear Republic. That is a top-notch beer, and I'd recommend everything from that brewery. When I want a Red, I reach for that. St. Rogue Red is also very good, and I buy Cinder Cone from Deschutes during the winter sometimes too. I'd say those are my three favorite, but I admit I haven't tried many. I also hear great things about Alesmith's Evil Dead Red. I can pretty much guarantee that's an awesome beer, because everything Alesmith does is awesome.

As for pilseners, I won't be much help at all. I rarely purchase them, and often use them for cooking. I'll echo what Jughead said and point out Victory's Prima Pils. That beer is exactly how a pilsener should be, imo. People rave about it, and for good reason. Even better, another great one is the Morimoto from Rogue. It's an Imperial Pils at 8.8%, and it's awesome. Too expensive for me to buy very often, but you should try it at least once if you love pilseners. The other one I'll mention is the Uber Pils from Rogue. It's very good as well, but I prefer the Prima. Those are the only 3 I've tried that I liked much.

duckseason
05-22-2007, 03:47 PM
word, things to check out.

it seems like beer people tend to snub a lot of the good lighter beers for a lot of crap dark stuff (i've had a few of the top 50 on ratebeer and absolutely hated them).

Haha. Yeah, everybody has their own preferences. I love the Stouts. Love all the big beers. Doesn't have to be dark. Just big and great. When I want a session beer, I usually reach for an IPA. I often use the amber's and pils's for cooking. But still get a craving to sit back with a 6er of Prima. I love Red Rocket though. I'll drink that everyday. I just love the bigger beers so much that there isn't often space in the fridge for much else. It's all big beers that I'm aging, with space for a few bombers to drink, and then there's room for a 6 pack of something standard like an IPA or something. So I don't get around to a lot of the lighter stuff very often. Which ones in the RB top 50 did you hate? I agree it's lame that there are no small beers in the top 50. You rate according to style. So there should be more representation of each style.

duckseason
05-22-2007, 03:59 PM
hell, i'll have to go back and look. when i was in college, me and a buddy took their list to the local liqour store (a surprisingly good one) and just bought the first 5 we found. his dog ended up getting pretty drunk.

Well at least the dog seemed to have a good night. haha. Yeah, I agree there are many beers living off of reputation right now. I think especially some of the trappist brews. Orval and St Bernardus have no place in any top 50 imo. I think they're living off a reputation built before the craft brew boom. Still good beers, but not worth the price at all. I was also very disappointed with trois pistoles from unibroue. That beer is living off old rep as well. Not sure if any of those are in the top 50 right now, but that's an example. A lot of the newer beers you see in there are there for good reason though, imo.

Moses
05-22-2007, 04:19 PM
Does anybody brew their own beer? I'm thinking of going to a beer brewing store and brewing up a batch.

duckseason
05-22-2007, 04:23 PM
Does anybody brew their own beer? I'm thinking of going to a beer brewing store and brewing up a batch.

Haven't got into homebrewing yet, but I plan to as soon as I move into a house. This apartment just wouldn't work, and I can't afford everything right now anyway. I want to get all the best equipment I can find, and do it the right way from the get go. Seems like the perfect hobby though. If you try it, let us know how it turns out. What style are you thinking of doing?

Moses
05-22-2007, 04:28 PM
Haven't got into homebrewing yet, but I plan to as soon as I move into a house. This apartment just wouldn't work, and I can't afford everything right now anyway. I want to get all the best equipment I can find, and do it the right way from the get go. Seems like the perfect hobby though. If you try it, let us know how it turns out. What style are you thinking of doing?

I'm thinking of starting out by brewing at a beer brewing place, not buying the equipment and doing it at home. A buddy of mine did this and said it tasted pretty good and it's really cheap (I'll be paying about $100 for 6 cases when 6 cases of the cheapest beer is about $180 or so). Plus, there's nothing like the satisfaction of drinking your own beer.

As for what style, I'm thinking of starting with something basic. One of the flavours at the place I'm thinking of going to is called "Canadian Select" (which they compare to Molson Canadian, a beer I enjoy). I'm not sure that I want to venture into something very complicated my first time before I see how it turns out.

diabsoule
05-22-2007, 04:37 PM
Here are two of the best beers I've ever put to my lips:

http://www.onlyinhouston.org/attachments/users/50/wysiwyguploads/Image/dixie2.jpg
It's brewed in New Orleans in Cypress barrels which gives it a distinct taste. I do think they moved to Houston after Hurricane Katrina.

http://donavanhall.net/images/beer/bottles/murphysstoutcan.jpg
My favorite stout.

Other beers I really enjoy are (in no particular order):

Smithwick's Irish Stout
Pabst Blue Ribbon
Schlitz
and many more.

duckseason
05-22-2007, 04:37 PM
I'm thinking of starting out by brewing at a beer brewing place, not buying the equipment and doing it at home. A buddy of mine did this and said it tasted pretty good and it's really cheap (I'll be paying about $100 for 6 cases when 6 cases of the cheapest beer is about $180 or so). Plus, there's nothing like the satisfaction of drinking your own beer.

As for what style, I'm thinking of starting with something basic. One of the flavours at the place I'm thinking of going to is called "Canadian Select" (which they compare to Molson Canadian, a beer I enjoy). I'm not sure that I want to venture into something very complicated my first time before I see how it turns out.
Awesome idea. I should check to see if there's anywhere around here I could do that. I'd still need a place to store the finished product though. I agree about the satisfaction of drinking your own beer. It'd be cool to share your creation with friends too, and hear their criticism. I see a lot of homebrewing in my future regardless of how my first batch turns out. Seems like something I would become fanatical about.

Moses
05-22-2007, 04:38 PM
Awesome idea. I should check to see if there's anywhere around here I could do that. I'd still need a place to store the finished product though. I agree about the satisfaction of drinking your own beer. It'd be cool to share your creation with friends too, and hear their criticism. I see a lot of homebrewing in my future regardless of how my first batch turns out. Seems like something I would become fanatical about.

I would love to get into homebrewing but, like you, I have serious space constraints.

The biggest downside about brewing my own is that it's going to be stored in plastic bottles. That means it'll only last about 8 weeks or so if kept in a dark, cool place.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-22-2007, 04:45 PM
I really want to homebrew, but it just isn't an option until I get into a house. This brewing at a brewery thing sounds interesting, but it seems like the freedom to really experiment is part of what makes homebrewing so fun.

I want to be able to make strange beer, root beer, ginger beer, etc.

drowe
05-23-2007, 09:12 AM
ok, had some good beer last night. at a friend's house for poker.
first, i had a Goose Island IPA. i felt like i tried it before and wasn't impressed. but if that's true, i musta had a bad bottle because it really hit the spot this time.
then, a Goose Island Oatmeal Stout. really good. i like stouts to have a little bite to 'em. being an oatmeal stout, this one didn't, but, very smooth.
also, tried a very old New Glaurus Cherry Stout. it was interesting. not sure if i liked it or not. different anyway. mighta actually been better if it was warm. New Glaurus, I've always thought had very watered down versions of their beers. but, every once in a while, they try something crazy...this was one of those...and like i said, i'm on the fence.

duckseason
05-23-2007, 09:31 PM
Just realized this thread sank to the second page. As beer lovers, we can't let this happen again.

I was wondering if anybody else has tried Gueuze? I personally love the sour flavors, and have made Cantillon a regular in my fridge. I only wish there were more offerings on the shelves. The stuff is addicting.

My only comment on Goose Island and New Glarus is that I wish we had them out here so I could give 'em a try!

drowe
05-24-2007, 10:06 AM
wow, thread sinking again.


yeah, New Glaurus is HUGE in Wisconsin, but apparently they don't distribute much outside of the state.

not sure how far reaching Goose Island is, but i had thought it was pretty big.

Jughead10
05-24-2007, 12:06 PM
I like Beer!

RyanLeaf#1
05-24-2007, 12:12 PM
Thirsty Thursday and im definitely drinking tonight

drowe
05-24-2007, 01:09 PM
stupid thursday. not that it'll stop me, but beer is far less satisfying when i know i still have work the next day.

i always had the opposite problem. beer just always seemed to taste better when i knew i wasn't supposed to be drinking it.

Jughead10
05-24-2007, 01:14 PM
i always had the opposite problem. beer just always seemed to taste better when i knew i wasn't supposed to be drinking it.

HHHMMMMM....... Forbidden Beer!!!

awfullyquiet
05-24-2007, 01:45 PM
the oatmeal stout is ridiculously smooth and warm. i have no idea how they do it. but it's deliciously creamy.

Scar
05-24-2007, 01:53 PM
New Glarus Question: Which is the one with the Squirrel on it? That stuff is good! I only had one bottle that a relative from WI had brought me once, need to track it down again. Spotted Cow is the only one that seems to get any distribution at all. It's good, but it's no squirrel.

tEk
05-24-2007, 01:55 PM
wow, thread sinking again.


yeah, New Glaurus is HUGE in Wisconsin, but apparently they don't distribute much outside of the state.

not sure how far reaching Goose Island is, but i had thought it was pretty big. Goose Island Beer is distributed in the following states:
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Michigan
Minnesota
Montana
Nebraska
New York
North Dakota
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Wisconsinthat is directly of the goose island web site.

drowe
05-24-2007, 02:29 PM
New Glarus Question: Which is the one with the Squirrel on it? That stuff is good! I only had one bottle that a relative from WI had brought me once, need to track it down again. Spotted Cow is the only one that seems to get any distribution at all. It's good, but it's no squirrel.

that would be Fat Squirrel Nut Brown Ale. I don't love it as much as most 'Sconies but, i've never been a big Brown Ale fan in general. and yeah, if ya see New Glaurus anywhere, it'll most likely be Spotted Cow.

drowe
05-24-2007, 02:31 PM
the oatmeal stout is ridiculously smooth and warm. i have no idea how they do it. but it's deliciously creamy.


yeah, it was very good. i was much more impressed with the IPA though.

duckseason
05-24-2007, 06:23 PM
Ok, so it doesn't appear that there are any gueuze lovers around. What about Mead? Anybody love this nectar as much as me? I know it's not beer, but I appreciate it just as much. Ok, well that was a lie. I don't appreciate anything as much as beer. But it's close.

Moses
05-24-2007, 06:24 PM
Ok, so it doesn't appear that there are any gueuze lovers around. What about Mead? Anybody love this nectar as much as me? I know it's not beer, but I appreciate it just as much. Ok, well that was a lie. I don't appreciate anything as much as beer. But it's close.

Mead? Isn't that a weird honey beer or something?

duckseason
05-24-2007, 06:29 PM
Mead? Isn't that a weird honey beer or something?

Yeah, basically. Some call it "honey wine." But it's more closely related to beer. The stuff is delicious. There are many different varieties, some of which contain other fruits, which are called "melomels." If you can afford it, go get a bottle of semi-dry mead and take it from there. Should be around $15.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead

diabsoule
05-24-2007, 06:50 PM
Yeah, basically. Some call it "honey wine." But it's more closely related to beer. The stuff is delicious. There are many different varieties, some of which contain other fruits, which are called "melomels." If you can afford it, go get a bottle of semi-dry mead and take it from there. Should be around $15.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead

I've had some good mead and bad. If it's bad you will know immediately, however, mead is an accumulated taste as far as I'm concerned.

duckseason
05-24-2007, 06:56 PM
I've had some good mead and bad. If it's bad you will know immediately, however, mead is an accumulated taste as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, I think you could say that about any and all beverages. Did you mean acquired taste? I think that's obvious as well. I can't imagine it being nearly as offensive to first-time imbibers as your average wine or beer though. It generally has a very mellow taste, and most everybody enjoys honey.

VY10
05-24-2007, 07:16 PM
Snake River from wyoming. Check out the list of awards.

http://www.snakeriverbrewing.com/opawards.html

duckseason
05-24-2007, 07:25 PM
Snake River from wyoming. Check out the list of awards.

http://www.snakeriverbrewing.com/opawards.html
Nice. I'll have to try them sometime. It appears as though they'll ship 3 varieties. What's your favorite from them? Did you visit the brewery?

Paranoidmoonduck
05-24-2007, 08:23 PM
you taste more of it as you go?

Well, it was a poor choice of words, but with mead, that actually does happen. That freaking taste sits in your mouth and won't go away.

Mead's alright I guess, not a huge fan. I've had mead that was entirely too sweet for me to handle.

Jughead10
05-24-2007, 09:00 PM
Nice. I'll have to try them sometime. It appears as though they'll ship 3 varieties. What's your favorite from them? Did you visit the brewery?

Hanging out at breweries is awesome. There aren't many around here but I have been known to frequent the Brooklyn Brewery on Friday nights or Saturday afternoons (the only days its open to public). Basically you can just hang out there and get 7 beers there for 20 bucks. Which by NYC standards is basically giving it away. The funny thing is I don't think they have a liscense to sell beer on the premise so they have a funny way of getting around that. You can buy 7 tokens for 20 bucks. Then you can trade in a token for a "free" beer. Its some legal loophole that continues to work.

Anyway, at all times they have 8 beers on tap. 4 of their more "regulars" and then 4 more stylish beers. Often seasonals and sometimes even brews they don't bottle. Things they are trying out and just made a handful of kegs of. If you are a beer drinker in the NY/NJ area it is a must.

drowe
05-25-2007, 07:46 AM
Hanging out at breweries is awesome. There aren't many around here but I have been known to frequent the Brooklyn Brewery on Friday nights or Saturday afternoons (the only days its open to public). Basically you can just hang out there and get 7 beers there for 20 bucks. Which by NYC standards is basically giving it away. The funny thing is I don't think they have a liscense to sell beer on the premise so they have a funny way of getting around that. You can buy 7 tokens for 20 bucks. Then you can trade in a token for a "free" beer. Its some legal loophole that continues to work.



yeah, Lakefront Brewery in Milwaukee does the same thing. buy 4 tokens for $5 and get 4 free beers and a free pint glass. then sit in the lobby and eat pretzels and wait for people to give you their leftover tokens. it pretty much turns into all you can drink for $5. and it's my favorite beer ever.

Jughead10
05-25-2007, 07:51 AM
yeah, Lakefront Brewery in Milwaukee does the same thing. buy 4 tokens for $5 and get 4 free beers and a free pint glass. then sit in the lobby and eat pretzels and wait for people to give you their leftover tokens. it pretty much turns into all you can drink for $5. and it's my favorite beer ever.

Damn thats cheap. If any place was that cheap for good beer in NYC, I think they would have to beat people away with a stick. The token thing must be a well known loophole then. Its easier than getting a liquor liscense, which cost a ton here. Not sure about NYC but I know in NJ some liquor liscenses cost almost a million bucks.

Jughead10
05-25-2007, 08:29 AM
I think I could kill 4 homeless people for a beer right now.