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Sniper
05-19-2007, 04:12 PM
Just for fun, let's see who you guys have for AA teams.

1st Team

QB: Brian Brohm, Louisville
RB; Darren McFadden, Arkansas
RB: Steve Slaton, West Virginia
FB: Owen Schmitt, West Virginia
TE: John Carlson, Notre Dame
WR: DeSean Jackson, California
WR: Mario Manningham, Michigan
OT: Jake Long, Michigan
OG: Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
C: Alex Mack, California
OG: Duke Robinson, Oklahoma
OT: Sam Baker, Southern California
DE: Derrick Harvey, Florida
DT: Glenn Dorsey, Louisiana State
DT: Sedrick Ellis, Southern California
DE: Calais Campbell, Miami
LB: Dan Connor, Penn State
LB: Keith Rivers, Southern California
LB: James Laurinatis, Ohio State
CB: Antoine Cason, Arizona
CB: Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech
S: Kenny Phillips, Miami
S: Jonathan Hefney, Tennessee
KR/PR: DeSean Jackson, California

2nd Team:

QB: John David Booty, Southern California
RB: Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
RB: Mike Hart, Michigan
FB: Carl Stewart, Auburn
TE: Martellus Bennett, Texas A & M
WR: Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt
WR: Adalius Bowman, Oklahoma State
OT: Barry Richardson, Clemson
OG: Will Arnold, Louisiana State
C: John Sullivan, Notre Dame
OG: Jeremy Perry, Oregon State
OT: Kirk Barton, Ohio State
DE: Quentin Groves, Auburn
DT: Frank Okam, Texas
DT: James McCLinton, Kansas
DE: Lawrence Jackson, Southern California
LB: Phil Wheeler, Georgia Tech
LB: Vince Hall, Virginia Tech
LB: Rey Maualuga, Southern California
CB: Aqib Talib, Kansas
CB: Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
S: Chris Horton, UCLA
S: Myron Rolle, Florida State
KR/PR: Sammie Stroughter, Oregon State

Thoughts?

KCJ58
05-19-2007, 04:15 PM
Colt Brennan should have been on 2nd team

Sniper
05-19-2007, 04:16 PM
Because he throws for ridiculous yardage in a gimmick O?

saintsfan912
05-19-2007, 04:17 PM
Will Arnold will be first team All American. He is the best OG in the nation according to many sites and will anchor a great oline at LSU.

Early Doucet will be at least a 2nd teamer. Playmaker who will make everyone forget about the loss of 2 1st round WRs.

KCJ58
05-19-2007, 04:18 PM
Tavaga from UCLA should have been on 2nd team (OG)

djp
05-19-2007, 04:33 PM
Anyone else think Laurinatis will cool off this year?

fenikz
05-19-2007, 04:57 PM
im not making a 2nd team but here is my 1st

QB: Brian Brohm, Louisville
RB; Darren McFadden, Arkansas
RB: Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
FB: Owen Schmitt, West Virginia
TE: Martellus Bennett, Texas A&M
WR: DeSean Jackson, California
WR: Mario Manningham, Michigan
OT: Jake Long, Michigan
OG: Will Arnold, LSU
C: Kory Lichensteiger, Bowling Green
OG: Shannon Tevaga, UCLA
OT: Sam Baker, Southern California
DE: Derrick Harvey, Florida
DT: Glenn Dorsey, Louisiana State
DT: Sedrick Ellis, Southern California
DE: Calais Campbell, Miami
LB: Dan Connor, Penn State
LB: Jonathan Goff, Vanderbilt
LB: Ali Highsmith, LSU
CB: Antoine Cason, Arizona
CB: Justin King, Penn St
S: Kenny Phillips, Miami
S: Jonathan Hefney, Tennessee
KR/PR: DeSean Jackson, California

Paranoidmoonduck
05-19-2007, 05:37 PM
Anyone else think Laurinatis will cool off this year?

I do. He showed a knack for turnovers last year, but a lot of them seemed to fall into his lap. If he doesn't as many gimme's this year people are going to realize that he isn't all that great as a tackling linebacker.

22,895
05-19-2007, 07:38 PM
No love for Patrick Turner? Limas Sweed?

NittanyLion2k7
05-19-2007, 08:08 PM
Who the hell is brandon flowers? Are you joking? You could make a case for that Wisconsion guy or the Talib whatever from Kansas. Brandon Flowers? Get the !@#$ outta here.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-19-2007, 08:15 PM
Who the hell is brandon flowers? Are you joking? You could make a case for that Wisconsion guy or the Talib whatever from Kansas. Brandon Flowers? Get the !@#$ outta here.

Very flashy corner from a school known to produce high quality defensive backs and will likely make an impact on what is sure to be one of the top defensive units in the country. He's got just as good a shot as any to be an AA.

Sniper
05-19-2007, 08:16 PM
22,895, um no no love for Patrick Turner. He hasn't done anything at all yet to merit being AA. I think he's got the talent to, but he hasn't put up the numbers yet. Sweed was borderline 2nd/3rd teamer.

Nitlion, you done crying yet? Flowers was first team All-ACC, had 3 picks and 21 PBU. He's a good friggin corner, so chill out. I put Talib on the second team. Don't have a coronary

Windy
05-19-2007, 08:25 PM
Alex Mack is very underrated. I like it.

keylime_5
05-19-2007, 08:34 PM
Here's Mine:

QB- Colt Brennan
RB- Chris Wells
RB- Darren McFadden
WR- DeSean Jackson
WR- Mario Manningham
TE- Travis Beckum
OL- Sam Baker
OL- Jake Long
OL- Barry Richardson
OL- Will Arnold
C- Kory Frankenstein

DL- Glenn Dorsey
DL- Calais Campbell
DL- Derrick Harvey
DL- Lawrence Jackson
LB- James Laurinaitis
LB- Dan Connor
LB- Keith Rivers
DB- Malcolm Jenkins
DB- Kenny Phillips
DB- Justin King
DB- Tom Zbikowski

Heisman- McFadden
Outland- Long
Lombardi- Connor
Butkus- Laurinaitis
Thorpe- Jenkins
Unitas- Brennan

Sniper
05-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Zbikowski? What has he done to warrant AA status?

reigle9
05-19-2007, 08:53 PM
Alex Mack is very underrated. I like it.

I've always been in love with her.

Michigan
05-19-2007, 09:19 PM
lol zbikowski...

scottyboy
05-19-2007, 09:55 PM
the lack of Rice and Greene disappoints me

Sniper
05-19-2007, 11:11 PM
Look it's only 2 teams....Can't put in everyone...I was deciding between Greene and Rolle and flipped a coin...Rice is a third teamer

Michigan
05-19-2007, 11:40 PM
both rice and greene don't deserve to be on the 3rd team

fenikz
05-20-2007, 12:09 AM
i disagree greene is a beast, he is very qualified to at least be a 3rd team aa

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-20-2007, 01:08 AM
Zbikowski? What has he done to warrant AA status?
nothing.(10)

22,895
05-20-2007, 01:13 AM
22,895, um no no love for Patrick Turner. He hasn't done anything at all yet to merit being AA. I think he's got the talent to, but he hasn't put up the numbers yet. Sweed was borderline 2nd/3rd teamer.

Nitlion, you done crying yet? Flowers was first team All-ACC, had 3 picks and 21 PBU. He's a good friggin corner, so chill out. I put Talib on the second team. Don't have a coronary

Yea his Stats are obviously not there but he does have the talent to be there.

504 to ATL
05-20-2007, 01:25 AM
I think Tyson Jackson will have a breakout year this year, he showed he was capable last year at DE, he should be on there with Campbell from U.

DHVF
05-20-2007, 01:49 AM
Look for Jack Simmons to have a big year at tight end for the gophers.....i really wouldn't be surprised at all if he made it on either the 1st or 2nd teams.

Sniper
05-20-2007, 02:10 AM
Yea his Stats are obviously not there but he does have the talent to be there.

Yeah like I said, I think he's got the potential to be a big time player, but All Americans put up numbers. I think he will eventually be an AA, but as of right now, he's unproven

TheMikey10
05-20-2007, 12:06 PM
QB JD Booty USC
HB Steve Slaton WVU
HB Darren McFadden Arkansas
WR Desean Jackson Cal
WR Earl Bennett Vandy
TE John Carlson Notre Dame
OL Jake Long Michigan
OL Sam Baker USC
OL Will Arnold LSU
OL Shannon Tevaga UCLA
C Antoine Caldwell Alabama

DE Calais Campbell Miami(FL)
DE Lawrence Jackson USC
DT Glen Dorsey DT LSU
DT Frank Okam Texas
LB Jonathon Goff Vandy
LB James Laurinatis Ohio State
LB Keith Rivers USC
CB Aqib Talib Kansas
CB Antoine Cason Arizona
S Kenny Phillips Miami (FL)
S Myron Rolle Florida State

KR Darius Reynaud WVU
PR Desean Jackson Cal
K Garret Hartley Oklahoma
P Durant Brooks Georgia Tech

coCANES17
05-22-2007, 01:28 AM
Not Really my teams but more of a prediction of how all the preseason publications will have them.

1st Team
QB Brian Brohm Louisville
RB Darren McFadden Arkansas
RB Mike Hart Michigan
WR Limas Sweed Texas
WR Desean Jackson CAL
TE Fred Davis USC
OT Jake Long Michigan
OT Sam Baker USC
OG Will Arnold LSU
OG Jordan Grimes Purdue
C John Sullivan Notre Dame

DE Calais Campbell Miami
DT Glen Dorsey LSU
DT Frank Okam Texas
DE Tommy Blake TCU
LB Dan Connor Penn State
LB James Laurinitis Ohio State
LB Keith Rivers USC
CB Antoine Cason Arizona
CB Justin King Penn State
S Kenny Phillips Miami
S Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame

Kicker Brandon Coutu Georgia
Punter Durant Brooks Georgia Tech

2nd Team
QB Colt Brennan Hawaii
RB Steve Slaton West Virginia
RB Ray Rice Rutgers
WR Percy Harvin Florida
WR Mario Manningham Michigan
TE John Carlson Notre Dame
OT Ryan Clady Boise State
OT Barry Richardson Clemson
OG Shannon Tevaga UCLA
OG Jeremy Perry Oregon State
C Antoine Caldwell Alabama

DE Lawrence Jackson USC
DT Sedrick Ellis USC
DT DeMarrio Pressley Maryland
DE Chris Long Virginia
LB Brian Cushing USC
LB Jasper Brinkley South Carolina
LB Vince Hall Virginia Tech
CB Zackary Bowman Nebraska
CB Malcom Jenkins Ohio State
S Myron Rolle Florida State
S Courtney Greene Rutgers

Kicker Alexis Serna Oregon State
Punter Ken Debauche Georgia

3rd Team
QB Pat White West Virginia
(could also be Woodson, Ainge, Booty, or Henne)
RB Jonathan Stewart Oregon
RB Chris Wells Ohio State
(could also be Bernard, Spiller, Davis, Ore, or Charles)
WR Early Doucet LSU
WR Earl Bennet Vanderbilt
(Kelly, Bowman, Monk, Hardy, Urrutia, Dillard, Burton, Caldwell, Heyward-Bey and Hall all have a chance)
TE Martin Rucker Missouri
OT Michael Oher Ole Miss
OT Kirk Barton Ohio State
OG Jonathan Luigs Arkansas
OG Kirk Elder Texas A&M
C Alex Mack CAL

DE Derrick Harvey Florida
DT Marcus Harrison Arkansas
DT Andre Fluellen Florida State
DE Bruce Davis UCLA
(Groves and Gholston will make some lists too)
LB Xavier Adibi Virginia Tech
LB Rey Maualuga USC
LB Geno Hayes Florida State
CB Aqib Talib Kansas
CB Dwight Lowery San Jose State
S Jonathan Heffeney Tennessee
S Josh Pinkard USC

Heisman Top 10
1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
2. Brian Brohm QB Louisville
3. Steve Slaton RB West Virginia
4. Colt Brennan QB Hawaii
5. Mike Hart RB Michigan
6. Desean Jackson WR/KR CAL
7. Pat White QB West Virginia
8. Ray Rice RB Rutgers
9. Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
10. Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon

Sniper
05-22-2007, 02:08 AM
Why the **** would anyone put Zbikowski anywhere near All-American teams?

Unbiased
05-22-2007, 11:45 PM
Taylor Mays should be on a few second teams.

Sniper
05-23-2007, 02:27 AM
What has he proved so far?

smittyjs
05-23-2007, 01:05 PM
QB JD Booty USC
HB Steve Slaton WVU
HB Darren McFadden Arkansas
WR Desean Jackson Cal
WR Earl Bennett Vandy
TE John Carlson Notre Dame
OL Jake Long Michigan
OL Sam Baker USC
OL Will Arnold LSU
OL Shannon Tevaga UCLA
C Antoine Caldwell Alabama

DE Calais Campbell Miami(FL)
DE Lawrence Jackson USC
DT Glen Dorsey DT LSU
DT Frank Okam Texas
LB Jonathon Goff Vandy
LB James Laurinatis Ohio State
LB Keith Rivers USC
CB Aqib Talib Kansas
CB Antoine Cason Arizona
S Kenny Phillips Miami (FL)
S Myron Rolle Florida State

KR Darius Reynaud WVU
PR Desean Jackson Cal
K Garret Hartley Oklahoma
P Durant Brooks Georgia Tech
I like :)....

HoopsDemon12
05-23-2007, 06:42 PM
I've always been in love with her.

have to say.... nicest sig i have ever seen!!

BerninWI
05-24-2007, 12:58 PM
I must have missed the memo where Wisconsin Badger players aren't eligible to be all americans.

Travis Beckum was the #1 receiving tight end in college football last year by a substantial amount, coming off a season where he played defensive end/linebacker. ESPN picked CB Jack Ikegwuonu as the preseason defensive player of the year in the big ten. I don't think P.J. Hill has all american caliber ability, but the way Wisconsin runs the football, he has a good shot to make it on production. That's three players who could make it, yet none are listed. At least Beckum and Ikegwuonu should make 2nd teams or better. If Ikegwuonu duplicates his performance last year he should be comfortably in the top of the half of the first round of the draft (gbnreport already has him there).

DorianSmith
05-25-2007, 12:12 AM
Where is Bernard and Straughter

Sniper
05-25-2007, 01:47 AM
Who would Bernard and Straughter replace?

bored of education
05-25-2007, 08:32 AM
J Lehman will make the 2nd team

Mr. Stiller
05-25-2007, 12:31 PM
I must have missed the memo where Wisconsin Badger players aren't eligible to be all americans.

Travis Beckum was the #1 receiving tight end in college football last year by a substantial amount, coming off a season where he played defensive end/linebacker. ESPN picked CB Jack Ikegwuonu as the preseason defensive player of the year in the big ten. I don't think P.J. Hill has all american caliber ability, but the way Wisconsin runs the football, he has a good shot to make it on production. That's three players who could make it, yet none are listed. At least Beckum and Ikegwuonu should make 2nd teams or better. If Ikegwuonu duplicates his performance last year he should be comfortably in the top of the half of the first round of the draft (gbnreport already has him there).

As long as Ikegwuono doesn't have anymore off the field issues.

keylime_5
05-25-2007, 12:31 PM
Why the **** would anyone put Zbikowski anywhere near All-American teams?

Well he was a 3rd team AllAmerican in 2005, and there's not that many well known safeties who do what he does. You can argue Ellison from USC or whatever, it's just a list I threw on there without thinking real hard, it was off the top of my head really. I wouldn't be suprised if Zbiskoskwosksisi was an allamerican this year again.

Mr. Stiller
05-25-2007, 12:33 PM
Well he was a 3rd team AllAmerican in 2005, and there's not that many well known safeties who do what he does. You can argue Ellison from USC or whatever, it's just a list I threw on there without thinking real hard, it was off the top of my head really. I wouldn't be suprised if Zbiskoskwosksisi was an allamerican this year again.

Only Kenny Phillips or Michael Hamilton would really overtakes the SS position..

It's a terrible year for SS.

keylime_5
05-25-2007, 12:33 PM
Heisman Top 10
1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
2. Brian Brohm QB Louisville
3. Steve Slaton RB West Virginia
4. Colt Brennan QB Hawaii
5. Mike Hart RB Michigan
6. Desean Jackson WR/KR CAL
7. Pat White QB West Virginia
8. Ray Rice RB Rutgers
9. Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
10. Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon

c'mon, ya can't leave off Beanie Wells. He's the most talented back in the nation and he will be the full time starter this year for a top 10 team.

Sniper
05-25-2007, 03:11 PM
c'mon, ya can't leave off Beanie Wells. He's the most talented back in the nation and he will be the full time starter this year for a top 10 team.

More talented than McFadden? I don't think so

keylime_5
05-25-2007, 04:24 PM
You can't say he's not as talented as McFadden, Wells was the #1 recruit in the nation coming out of high school, I think Darren was like the #4 RB. Both are really awesome and probably top 5 picks in their respective drafts, but no one is more talented of a RB than Wells. As talented, maybe. But not more. Wells is a bigger, stronger, more power version of Adrian Peterson except a bit slower.

duckseason
05-25-2007, 04:33 PM
You can't say he's not as talented as McFadden, Wells was the #1 recruit in the nation coming out of high school, I think Darren was like the #4 RB. Both are really awesome and probably top 5 picks in their respective drafts, but no one is more talented of a RB than Wells. As talented, maybe. But not more. Wells is a bigger, stronger, more power version of Adrian Peterson except a bit slower.

Dude, I agree Wells is a supreme talent with loads of potential, but to say he's more talented than McFadden is a ridiculous assertion at this point. You have to prove it on the field. He did look great last year, but not as great at McFadden. It's like saying that Ronnie Brown is more talented than Ladainian.

"no one is more talented of a RB than Wells"

I'd edit that.

elway777
05-25-2007, 05:02 PM
What has he proved so far?


Are you talking about Mays?

Freshman All American?

:/

draftguru151
05-25-2007, 05:11 PM
You can't say he's not as talented as McFadden, Wells was the #1 recruit in the nation coming out of high school, I think Darren was like the #4 RB. Both are really awesome and probably top 5 picks in their respective drafts, but no one is more talented of a RB than Wells. As talented, maybe. But not more. Wells is a bigger, stronger, more power version of Adrian Peterson except a bit slower.

So Kyle Wright is the most talented QB in the country?

keylime_5
05-25-2007, 06:34 PM
Wells is as talented as any back in the country. You don't have to be proven to be talented. Somebody said I can't say Wells is as talented as McFadden, they're wrong, he might be more talented than McFadden. McFadden is a great Rb, but he's getting overrated a bit on here, people act like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Flavor of the week I'd say.

Kyle Wright is not that talented apparently. If you suck then you can't be that talented. To be considered talented in football you have to at least have benefit of the doubt by not having played much.

keylime_5
05-25-2007, 06:35 PM
"no one is more talented of a RB than Wells"

I'd edit that.

i'm talking about in college football right now, not all time or in all of football or anything.

Sniper
05-25-2007, 10:24 PM
Wells is as talented as any back in the country. You don't have to be proven to be talented. Somebody said I can't say Wells is as talented as McFadden, they're wrong, he might be more talented than McFadden. McFadden is a great Rb, but he's getting overrated a bit on here, people act like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Flavor of the week I'd say.

Kyle Wright is not that talented apparently. If you suck then you can't be that talented. To be considered talented in football you have to at least have benefit of the doubt by not having played much.

Wasn't Anthony Morelli #2 in that class? ;)

kmartin575
05-26-2007, 12:24 AM
Not much love for Missouri's talented tight ends, Martin Rucker and Chase Coffman. They are certainly the best tandem in the country at TE.

keylime_5
05-26-2007, 09:40 AM
Wasn't Anthony Morelli #2 in that class? ;)

He's a QB. What the heck dows that have to do with Darren McFadden?

dcarey20
05-26-2007, 01:06 PM
LB: Phil Wheeler, Georgia Tech

over erin henderson?

Sniper
05-26-2007, 02:55 PM
Wells is as talented as any back in the country. You don't have to be proven to be talented. Somebody said I can't say Wells is as talented as McFadden, they're wrong, he might be more talented than McFadden. McFadden is a great Rb, but he's getting overrated a bit on here, people act like he's the best thing since sliced bread. Flavor of the week I'd say.

Kyle Wright is not that talented apparently. If you suck then you can't be that talented. To be considered talented in football you have to at least have benefit of the doubt by not having played much.

Just talking about the Kyle Wright point