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Vince Lombardi
05-21-2007, 01:35 PM
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

POSTED 9:31 p.m. EDT, May 20, 2007
MISADVENTURES IN E-MAIL
A league source tells us that an assistant coach with an NFL team attempted on Friday to forward a pornographic e-mail.
If his goal was to send it to every General Manager in the league, he was successful.
The list also included their secretaries. Oh, and the Commissioner got it, too.
We know who the coach is, but we're not going to reveal the name until we get confirmation from one more source as to the coach's identity.
Said the source: "I'm really shocked it hasn't hit the papers. Someone is doing a great job covering it up. But the whole league knows about it."
Who says the offseason gets boring after the draft?




POSTED 2:07 p.m. EDT, May 21, 2007
MORE ON THE E-MAIL MESS
A league source has shared with us some more information regarding the pornographic e-mail message that was sent to a whole host of high-level team employees.
For starters, the message wasn't sent only to all General Managers -- it was sent to everyone who has been added to the league's "All General Managers" e-mail distribution list. And that list includes everyone that the teams chose to put on the list.
Plus their secretaries.
We're also told that the sender attempted several times to recall the message, but was unsuccessful. We're also told that the sender later circulated an apology.
And here's where the situation gets potentially more intriguing. The assistant coach who sent the e-mail had been forwarded the message by a member of the team's front office.
We have confirmed the identify of the coach who sent the message, and of the front office employee who had sent it to him. And we're currently wrestling with whether or not we should disclose the names.
Should we? Shouldn't we? We welcome your input. (profootballtalk@aol.com)


Oops, my bad! ;p

T-RICH49
05-21-2007, 01:41 PM
I hope he gets revealed because this is funny

PalmerToCJ
05-21-2007, 01:42 PM
Wow I want to know who it is.

SFbear
05-21-2007, 01:54 PM
My guess: Mike Tice

Woody56
05-21-2007, 02:00 PM
my guess is going to Dick Curl

Addict
05-21-2007, 02:02 PM
My guess: Mike Tice

I second that. This thread needs a 'which moron did it' poll.

Vince Lombardi
05-21-2007, 02:04 PM
My guess: Mike Tice

haha I wouldn't doubt it.

Shiver
05-21-2007, 02:05 PM
Which is worse: this situation, or the Joe Cullen nude drive?

Moses
05-21-2007, 02:08 PM
This is awesome. I love when stuff like this backfires.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-21-2007, 02:16 PM
Which is worse: this situation, or the Joe Cullen nude drive?

I suppose it depends on the type of porn being passed around.

Either way, this is great.

Jughead10
05-21-2007, 02:30 PM
I don't think I'd be entirely upset if this turn's out to be someone the Giants. How would everyone else feel if this was on their team?

PalmerToCJ
05-21-2007, 02:32 PM
I don't think I'd be entirely upset if this turn's out to be someone the Giants. How would everyone else feel if this was on their team?

I hope it's our DC Chuck Breshnahan and he gets fired because of it :D

I don't think it'll be a big deal to the team really, now if it was a HC that would just be too good.

GB12
05-21-2007, 02:33 PM
I don't think I'd be entirely upset if this turn's out to be someone the Giants. How would everyone else feel if this was on their team?

I would get a good laugh out if it, had Sherman still had been the coach and sent it. Now, eh I don't really care either way, but I don't think it would be anyone on our staff.

DHVF
05-21-2007, 02:52 PM
I know Brad Childress had something to do with it.

GB12
05-21-2007, 02:55 PM
I know Brad Childress had something to do with it.
Nah, he's just a child molester.
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img9148655.jpg

scottyboy
05-21-2007, 02:55 PM
I don't think I'd be entirely upset if this turn's out to be someone the Giants. How would everyone else feel if this was on their team?

who knows, maybe it would help Eli be less tense out on the field...(go Gilbride!?!)

Mr. Stiller
05-21-2007, 03:35 PM
Andy Reid or Mike Holmgren..

Fat guys love Porn.

Flyboy
05-21-2007, 03:40 PM
Nah, he's just a child molester.
http://images.nfl.com/photos/img9148655.jpg

Okay, that seriously made me laugh out loud.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
05-21-2007, 03:49 PM
Goodell should give these guys at least a full season.

Xonraider
05-21-2007, 03:53 PM
Andy Reid or Mike Holmgren..

Fat guys love Porn.


Didnt know they were assistants.

Jay
05-21-2007, 04:39 PM
It ended up being two dudes from the Steelers.

POSTED 5:22 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 5:37 p.m. EDT, May 21, 2007

IT'S TIME TO NAME NAMES

We've given this matter due consideration. We've pondered. We've deliberated. We've (thanks in advance, Tiki) excogitated.

And we've received more than 600 e-mails from readers in little more than two hours on the topic.

We've decided to disclose the names of the persons involved in the Friday e-mail fiasco.

Here's why. In announcing the new Personal Conduct Policy last month, the NFL pointed out that non-players would be held to an even higher standard than those who wear the uniform: "The standard of socially responsible conduct for NFL employees will be higher. Club and league employees will be held to a higher standard than players. Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL will be subject to discipline, even if not criminal in nature." (Emphasis added.)

It's not for us to decide whether the underlying actions in this case (i.e., the forwarding of a "very hard-core," as one league source described it, pornographic video clip via a team's e-mail system) justifies punishment. But how will the personal conduct policy as applied to non-players have any meaning at all if the issue is ignored?

So in the interests of breaking from an apparent effort by the "real" media to brush this one under the rug in the hopes of scoring points with a new coaching regime, we believe it's fair and appropriate to disclose that (via at least three NFL sources) the e-mail in question was inadvertently sent to multiple high-level team employees and their secretaries by offensive line coach Larry Zierlein of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

The e-mail message had been forwarded to him by Doug Whaley, the Steelers director of personnel. Whaley had received the video from someone outside of the organization, and Whaley forwarded it to multiple other persons, including Zierlein.

Again, it's not for us to decide whether this behavior runs afoul of the new personal conduct policy as applied to coaches and front office personnel. Assuming, however, that the NFL has a written policy regarding the use of company computer equipment for personal endeavors, the use of the steelers.com domain to forward the video in question surely was a violation.

There's also a strong strategic aspect at work here. As one source observed, if the ticket manager had done this, he'd already be out the door. With NFL-level offensive line coaches not readily available to be hired in late May, Zierlein will likely get a pass. Ditto for Whaley, a respected personnel exec and a key contributor to the success of the franchise over the past several years.

And we don't think it's a terminable offense, even though we're certain that other employers in other industries wouldn't think twice about firing someone for this.

With all that said, the case provides an excellent opportunity for the league to educate its employees as to what does (and what does not) amount to a violation of the revised conduct policy. If action is taken, then the conduct was over the line. If no action is taken, then this isn't the kind of stuff that falls within the scope of the murky standard of overall personal behavior.

GB12
05-21-2007, 04:40 PM
It ended up being two dudes from the Steelers.

In the picture or two coaches?

Jay
05-21-2007, 04:41 PM
In the picture or two coaches?

The senders of the email... my bad... added story...

T-RICH49
05-21-2007, 05:54 PM
I don't think I'd be entirely upset if this turn's out to be someone the Giants. How would everyone else feel if this was on their team?

If it's Dick Curl that would be hysterical

TPFKA#1SaintsFan
05-21-2007, 06:03 PM
It ended up being two dudes from the Steelers.

This is the guy who sent it:
http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent/2007/02/01/12/07_Zierlein_Larry_80x111_73614.jpg

Hahahaha

PACKmanN
05-21-2007, 06:08 PM
who would hate getting porn in your email :)

Eagles own the NFC East
05-21-2007, 06:12 PM
This is the guy who sent it:
http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent/2007/02/01/12/07_Zierlein_Larry_80x111_73614.jpg

Hahahaha

lmao (10 characters)

stephenson86
05-21-2007, 06:32 PM
This is the guy who sent it:
http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent/2007/02/01/12/07_Zierlein_Larry_80x111_73614.jpg

Hahahaha

thats made my day ahahaha

Borat
05-21-2007, 06:33 PM
My money's on that the 2 Steelers coaches were sending along the sex video of Kim Kardashian, Reggie Bush's new girlfriend. No doubt in my mind.

Mr. Stiller
05-21-2007, 06:35 PM
I'm remembering a scene from American Pie.

D-Unit
05-21-2007, 06:41 PM
The worst part is it was male porn. lol. jk... but what if??? HAHAHA.

neko4
05-21-2007, 07:00 PM
I wish it was Tice or Childress, or even more Lovie

HoopsDemon12
05-21-2007, 11:37 PM
wow i really thought it was gonna be matt millen looking at some WR's.... but wow this made my night haha awesome

Mr. Stiller
05-22-2007, 12:22 AM
Either Zierlein is that far out of the Technology age.. or it was something crazy.. Who sends Porn Via email... other than Spam/Porn Companies(Spam).

It was probably that clip of the guy sticking his whole head in the chicks vagina.

Vikes99ej
05-22-2007, 11:19 AM
This is the guy who sent it:
http://media3.steelers.com/MediaContent/2007/02/01/12/07_Zierlein_Larry_80x111_73614.jpg

Hahahaha

For some odd reason, that reminded me of the time when some old guy told me a dirty joke at work.

Sportsfan486
05-22-2007, 11:33 AM
I'm remembering a scene from American Pie.

Haha, indeed.

What a doofus.. wow..