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Moses
05-23-2007, 06:24 PM
Assassin's Creed

Demo 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOk5j-iGuTM)

Demo 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-ClutaN_I)

Demo 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRBknGGPGGs)

Producer Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OzQrt0OZ1Q)

Unbelievable. Can't wait to get my grubby hands on this game.

Thoughts?

M.O.T.H.
05-23-2007, 06:28 PM
Can't wait... getting it for the 360...

Wish Alan Wake had a release date attached to it.

SeanTaylorRIP
05-23-2007, 06:28 PM
Will buy this game for sure, NBA 07 is getting too much playing time on my 360.

WMD
05-23-2007, 06:28 PM
Looks glorious. I want to get a 360 sometime soon..

Moses
05-23-2007, 06:30 PM
Just to confirm, what platforms is this available for? I think it's PS3, Xbox 360, and PC but I'm not 100% sure.

Moses
05-23-2007, 06:31 PM
Just to confirm, what platforms is this available for? I think it's PS3, Xbox 360, and PC but I'm not 100% sure.

Just found it. It's available for PC, PS3, and Xbox 360. They better all be released at the same time.

WMD
05-23-2007, 06:34 PM
I was thinking about doing this thing for a free 360.. it's at www.xbox360ad.com basically say "No" to a ton of things, and sign up for three Free Trial things.. and then I believe you get the 360 whenever.

HoopsDemon12
05-23-2007, 06:35 PM
WOW... is like all i can say, that looks freakin amazing. I cant wait till they do something along those lines for the hitman franchise... that would be wicked

M.O.T.H.
05-23-2007, 06:35 PM
Well, Moses... not sure if it's your type of game but, you could get Alan Wake for the PC...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NRaelRrY7Cc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0x1WX16vgf0

Moses
05-23-2007, 06:57 PM
Well, Moses... not sure if it's your type of game but, you could get Alan Wake for the PC...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NRaelRrY7Cc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0x1WX16vgf0

Looks cool. I'll probably check it out once it's released. So many good games coming out soon.

Go_Eagles77
05-23-2007, 07:26 PM
Looks awesome, it's been a while since any good games came out for the 360 and all of a sudden theres gonna be NCAA 08, Madden 08, Halo 3, GTA 4, and now this all around the same time.

Moses
05-23-2007, 07:27 PM
Looks awesome, it's been a while since any good games came out for the 360 and all of a sudden theres gonna be NCAA 08, Madden 08, Halo 3, GTA 4, and now this all around the same time.

So stoked for Madden 08. I'm expecting a big jump in game play this year. Maybe I'll finally be able to play a realistic franchise. :)

JF4
05-23-2007, 07:34 PM
This game looks amazing...can't wait to pick it up. I'll add it to a long list of games that I really want to get for the 360.

SeanTaylorRIP
05-23-2007, 07:37 PM
So stoked for Madden 08. I'm expecting a big jump in game play this year. Maybe I'll finally be able to play a realistic franchise. :)

I have given my hopes up on Madden. Now all I expect is a slight graphics improvement and an added feature which is useless here and there, has anyone played NFL Head coach on Xbox, how is it?

Moses
05-23-2007, 07:38 PM
I have given my hopes up on Madden. Now all I expect is a slight graphics improvement and an added feature which is useless here and there, has anyone played NFL Head coach on Xbox, how is it?

Superstar Mode anybody? :(

BuckNaked
05-23-2007, 07:45 PM
I have given my hopes up on Madden. Now all I expect is a slight graphics improvement and an added feature which is useless here and there, has anyone played NFL Head coach on Xbox, how is it?

I hated it personally.

RoyHall#1
05-23-2007, 07:51 PM
I hated it personally.

The offseasons are quite fun but the season sucks. YOu have to do all these unbelievably boring practices or else you have no chance to win the game. If you are really dedicated for a while and can make it to the offseason it is a blast though.

M.O.T.H.
05-23-2007, 08:03 PM
NFL Head Coach is useless...

PoopSandwich
05-23-2007, 08:04 PM
Assassin's Creed

Demo 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOk5j-iGuTM)

Demo 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-ClutaN_I)

Demo 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRBknGGPGGs)

Producer Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OzQrt0OZ1Q)

Unbelievable. Can't wait to get my grubby hands on this game.

Thoughts?

Thoughts? I reserved it last year :)

I don't know if i took money off of it though, but believe me, I can't wait (PS3 version baby :)

frogstomp
05-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Thoughts? I reserved it last year :)

I don't know if i took money off of it though, but believe me, I can't wait (PS3 version baby :)


Sucka, the 360 version will have better AI.

Busting hopes and dreams, one PS3 owner at a time.

jag
05-23-2007, 09:55 PM
I bought Head Coach, and barely made it through the pre-season before I was sick of it.

Smokey Joe
05-23-2007, 11:03 PM
Sucka, the 360 version will have better AI.

Busting hopes and dreams, one PS3 owner at a time.
Not this one buddy...

Smokey Joe
05-23-2007, 11:05 PM
I am going to get a 360 after christmas, I think. Get Halo and Gears of War, and be set.

WMD
05-24-2007, 12:16 AM
I was thinking about doing this thing for a free 360.. it's at www.xbox360ad.com (http://www.xbox360ad.com) basically say "No" to a ton of things, and sign up for three Free Trial things.. and then I believe you get the 360 whenever.

Bah.. so I sign up for Three things, and all of a sudden it's 9 total things. I hate free stuff.

dabears10
05-24-2007, 12:19 AM
Bah.. so I sign up for Three things, and all of a sudden it's 9 total things. I hate free stuff.

And i think you need to have a friend sign up and finish too or something like that.

It's annoying.

PoopSandwich
05-24-2007, 09:22 AM
Sucka, the 360 version will have better AI.

Busting hopes and dreams, one PS3 owner at a time.

You aren't busting any hopes or dreams...

See, Sony will have Socom and Final Fantasy (Yes i know it might go multi platform) but also might have a remake a FF7...

XBOX has one game I like, Halo.

I don't get why XBOX fans hate the PS3 soooo much, it's the same with every single person... I have a 360 and I don't ever play it.

frogstomp
05-24-2007, 12:06 PM
You aren't busting any hopes or dreams...

See, Sony will have Socom and Final Fantasy (Yes i know it might go multi platform) but also might have a remake a FF7...

XBOX has one game I like, Halo.

I don't get why XBOX fans hate the PS3 soooo much, it's the same with every single person... I have a 360 and I don't ever play it.

Why do I hate the PS3? It's horrible for gaming. If the PS3 ultimately wins this generation, you know how much we will be paying for consoles next gen? I don't want to think about it. Ultimately, I hope the Wii dominates like it is, followed by the 360, and the PS3 in a distant last. This will force them to re-evaluate their strategy, and release affordable consoles. So far, this is actually working quite well. Many third party developers have said that if the PS3 stays below 100 K sales for two more months, they will simply stop developing for it. The PS3 is a ***** to develop for, and simply does not have the install base to make it worth it. Also, lots of games that *used* to be PS3 exclusives are coming to 360 because of the install base. Why release your game for a system with half the available consumers?

Anyways, personally, I'm all about the games, and the 360 exclusives to come simply blow the PS3 away.

Halo 3, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Shadowrun, Too Human, Alan Wake, Forza series, PGR series, Gears of War, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Crackdown, Huxley, Chronicles of Riddick, Left 4 Dead... and that's just off the top of my head. Enjoy Socom, and a remake of a game everyone has already played.

PoopSandwich
05-24-2007, 03:41 PM
I will enjoy Socom and a game everyone has already played more than the games you listed.

Halo 3 - Should be amazing
Splinter Cell - Could be released on PS3 seeing as Double Agent was.
Mass Effect - Could be good, I remember how much hype Prey got and that sucked.
Dead Rising - Mediocre game.
Lost Planet - Average (I bought and sold it.)
Crackdown - Average
Huxley - Its an mmo, you know what the success rate on MMO's are?
Chronicles of Riddick - Has a chance to be good.

PS3

Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy Series
Socom Series
God of War Series
Haze
Resistance : Fall of Man
Grand Theft Auto
Grand Turismo
Heavenly Sword
Lair

There you go.

M.O.T.H.
05-24-2007, 03:44 PM
I heard the Show looks awful on the ps3 compared to MLB 2K7 on the 360...any truth to that? I have 2K7 for the 360.

Moses
05-24-2007, 03:45 PM
When will people realize that PC is better than both PS3 and Xbox 360.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 03:47 PM
Will buy this game for sure, NBA 07 is getting too much playing time on my 360.

That is a sad SAD statement!

Shiver
05-24-2007, 04:21 PM
When will people realize that PC is better than both PS3 and Xbox 360.

Maybe it has something to do with how much more expensive it is, and how there are fewer games? Starcraft II is the only game I plan on buying on the PC, anytime soon at least.

frogstomp
05-24-2007, 04:21 PM
I will enjoy Socom and a game everyone has already played more than the games you listed.

Halo 3 - Should be amazing
Splinter Cell - Could be released on PS3 seeing as Double Agent was.
Mass Effect - Could be good, I remember how much hype Prey got and that sucked.
Dead Rising - Mediocre game.
Lost Planet - Average (I bought and sold it.)
Crackdown - Average
Huxley - Its an mmo, you know what the success rate on MMO's are?
Chronicles of Riddick - Has a chance to be good.

PS3

Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy Series
Socom Series
God of War Series
Haze
Resistance : Fall of Man
Grand Theft Auto
Grand Turismo
Heavenly Sword
Lair

There you go.

Grand Theft Auto is not an exclusive. Haze is likely to be ported to the 360, but the chances are 50/50, so I'll give you that for now. Splinter Cell DA was for both, but Conviction will not be for the PS3. It has been announced. Final Fantasy is likely for the 360. You left out Bioshock, PGR series, Forza series (I think both of those are better than Gran Turismo, anyways), Gears of War, Alan Wake, Too Human, etc. Huxley has a single player game that looks good, and is actually quite likely to be successful as it already has a large fanbase before release, which is what is critical to mmo's. I also didn't even mention Two Worlds, Halo Wars, Banjo-Kazooie 3 and Viva Pinata (I don't care for either, but apparently a lot of people do... go figure), Dead or Alive series, Wolfenstein, Blue Dragon. *shrug*

Your knowledge of video games is obviously limited at best, as you often say completely false things, or have no idea what's going on at some points (especially when you compared Prey and Mass Effect... what the hell?). Also, you may not have enjoyed Lost Planet or Dead Rising, but each have experienced very strong sales and have had a strong fanbase.

If you look at the sales figures for this month, the PS3 looks like it will come in around 80 K again, making that 2 straight months. As I stated earlier, if this continues, third part developers will be jumping ship, leaving the 360 with even more exclusives.

The future is bright for my 360, and hopefully that means next gen no consoles will cost $600...

Moses
05-24-2007, 04:23 PM
Maybe it has something to do with how much more expensive it is, and how there are fewer games? Starcraft II is the only game I plan on buying on the PC, anytime soon at least.

Fewer games? PC has waaaay more games than consoles.

Most people already have a PC, so it's not really more expensive. Plus, PCs serve more than one purpose. They're basically a requirement in most households.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 04:24 PM
Fewer games? PC has waaaay more games than consoles.

Most people already have a PC, so it's not really more expensive. Plus, PCs serve more than one purpose. They're basically a requirement in most households.

Your point is flawed.

Most people have PCs, yes this is true.

The question is.

How many of these peoples PCs have the hardware to run such games?

Shiver
05-24-2007, 04:25 PM
It's far more expensive if you want to play any new games, specifically FPS and RTS games, which is what I'm talking about. Of course the PC has a larger catalog, but the influx of new games have slowed to a crawl. PC Gaming has become a niche, while console gaming has proliferated.

Moses
05-24-2007, 04:26 PM
Your point is flawed.

Most people have PCs, yes this is true.

The question is.

How many of these peoples PCs have the hardware to run such games?

Gaming hardware isn't that expensive. For a processor and video card more than capable of playing all the latest game it would only cost about $400-500.

Moses
05-24-2007, 04:28 PM
It's far more expensive if you want to play any new games, specifically FPS and RTS games, which is what I'm talking about. Of course the PC has a larger catalog, but the influx of new games have slowed to a crawl. PC Gaming has become a niche, while console gaming has proliferated.

A ton of console games are made for PC also. I can't think of many exclusives that aren't going to be available for PC (maybe the NCAA games, and a few PS3 or Xbox 360 exclusives). Then there's the exclusives for PC...

-Every MMORPG basically...
-Every strategy game basically...
-Counter-Strike (most popular FPS)
-etc....

FPS's on PC are on a whole other level than on consoles in my opinion. You just can't compete with the keyboard/mouse combination. Strategy games, again, simply aren't on the same level on consoles.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 04:29 PM
Gaming hardware isn't that expensive. For a processor and video card more than capable of playing all the latest game it would only cost about $400-500.

To get some of the premier games coming out for PC, you need a DX10 graphics card and a dual core processor is recommended.

DX10 VC= $450
Processor= $200/$250

$700

Plus enough RAM. About 2 gigs I'd say.

Enough HD space.

And Vista to run DX10.

Once again...flawed.

PS3>$1000+ PC.........for the casual gamer.

Moses
05-24-2007, 04:36 PM
To get some of the premier games coming out for PC, you need a DX10 graphics card and a dual core processor is recommended.

DX10 VC= $450
Processor= $200/$250

$700

Plus enough RAM. About 2 gigs I'd say.

Enough HD space.

And Vista to run DX10.

Once again...flawed.

PS3>$1000+ PC.........for the casual gamer.

Are you kidding? You don't need all that stuff to run these new games. I'm running a video card that costs about $150 now I believe and a processor that isn't even sold anymore and I can run any current game. My video card was $400 CDN and my processor was about $200 CDN when I bought it and both can still run any game with high graphics settings.

Plus, you can make the argument you need a $1000 HDTV to play these console games when you only need a $200 LCD to play PC games.

Oh, and PC games are cheaper than console games. Plus, if you're not morally bound to buying games, many can be had for free.

tEk
05-24-2007, 04:37 PM
i thought the casual gamer console was the wii. the ps3 is for the guy who wants a media pc and a gaming console, not to mention the blu-ray player for 600$. the cheapest blu-ray player is more expensive than that.

tEk
05-24-2007, 04:38 PM
Are you kidding? You don't need all that stuff to run these new games. I'm running a video card that costs about $150 now I believe and a processor that isn't even sold anymore and I can run any current game. My video card was $400 CDN and my processor was about $200 CDN when I bought it and both can still run any game with high graphics settings.

Plus, you can make the argument you need a $1000 HDTV to play these console games when you only need a $200 LCD to play PC games.im running no video card. just video chipset- less the 64 mb. and i can play counter strike source with no lag.(10-40ping) and i can also rip dvd's games for free(haha) and porn. what does a console have on that?

Moses
05-24-2007, 04:39 PM
im running no video card. just video chipset- less the 64 mb. and i can play counter strike source with no lag.(10-40ping) and i can also rip dvd's games for free(haha) and porn. what does a console have on that?

Exactly. ;)

Phrost
05-24-2007, 04:54 PM
Oh, and PC games are cheaper than console games. Plus, if you're not morally bound to buying games, many can be had for free.

I totally understand, Lets just say I have about 40 PC games....none of which have been purchased....but, the downside is I can't play online.

tEk
05-24-2007, 04:55 PM
I totally understand, Lets just say I have about 40 PC games....none of which have been purchased....but, the downside is I can't play online.you have the wrong cracks! and if a game is truely unavailable online through cracks. there is always "hamachi" it allows you to play lan games over the internet. so you and some buds can all crack the same game and play "lan" against each other.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 04:59 PM
you have the wrong cracks! and if a game is truely unavailable online through cracks. there is always "hamachi" it allows you to play lan games over the internet. so you and some buds can all crack the same game and play "lan" against each other.

I will have to check that out.

tEk
05-24-2007, 05:05 PM
I will have to check that out.for sure here you go.
https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/default.asp

just forward some ports and you are good to go.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 05:07 PM
wow. gaming on a PC is not necessarily anymore expensive than playing on that overpriced pile you call a 360, and, amazingly, is much better at the same price point. consider, you own a pc. you just paid somewhere around $400 for a 360. for that same cost, i could've upgraded to a better VC than the 360 has, and upgraded some other component, and been able to play all the same games in a much better environment. you're a complete moron end of bloody discussion if you think you have to spend upwards of $1k to play the same stuff on a PC. you're an even bigger moron if you don't recognize that top of the line hardware in a PC right now utterly dominates any available console in every single meaningful way, but that you don't have to buy top of the line hardware to get an equivalent gaming experience. you don't even have to buy cutting edge hardware. ugh.

and sorry shiver, calling pc gaming a "niche" is simply naive and wrong.

once again I UNDERSTAND! From a casual gamers stand point though. A casual gamer is foreign to keyboards and mice as gaming tools. They are even more foreign to upgrading pcs when they can just have a console which does everything for them.

tEk
05-24-2007, 05:09 PM
once again I UNDERSTAND! From a casual gamers stand point though. A casual gamer is foreign to keyboards and mice as gaming tools. They are even more foreign to upgrading pcs when they can just have a console which does everything for them.microsoft knows people enjoy console gaming. which is why they made the xbox 360 control available for pcs. all you to is alter the conrols to which buttons you want and in most cases it is set up for you. hazah!

nobodyinparticular
05-24-2007, 05:12 PM
It looks like it could be absolutely amazing. I kind of wish you could create your own assassin rather than having to be the exact same guy every time.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 05:12 PM
microsoft knows people enjoy console gaming. which is why they made the xbox 360 control available for pcs. all you to is alter the conrols to which buttons you want and in most cases it is set up for you. hazah!

Once again a foreign concept to ignorant people.

tEk
05-24-2007, 05:15 PM
Once again a foreign concept to ignorant people.
dude i wasn't bashing you.. .just trying to let you in on the pc world. you have a pc(obviously) and thought you might want to maximize its potential.

tEk
05-24-2007, 05:16 PM
haha nip i love you sig quote. sooo true!

Phrost
05-24-2007, 05:18 PM
dude i wasn't bashing you.. .just trying to let you in on the pc world. you have a pc(obviously) and thought you might want to maximize its potential.

I know, I have used a 360 controller to play Madden on PC. Many people would not see a reason to buy one for that reason, or know that you are able to do that.

nobodyinparticular
05-24-2007, 05:23 PM
haha nip i love you sig quote. sooo true!

Haha, that was in the "Toot your own horn" thread if I remember right.

WMD
05-24-2007, 05:59 PM
I don't see how PC's are by far the most popular gaming machines.. They're popular, but not for gaming purposes.. Just look at the video game sales month by month, PC games rarely crack even the Top 20.

tEk
05-24-2007, 06:00 PM
I don't see how PC's are by far the most popular gaming machines.. They're popular, but not for gaming purposes.. Just look at the video game sales month by month, PC games rarely crack even the Top 20.im just going to say most pc gamers don't buy games.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 06:05 PM
I don't see how PC's are by far the most popular gaming machines.. They're popular, but not for gaming purposes.. Just look at the video game sales month by month, PC games rarely crack even the Top 20.

I could run off the #s from Game Informer, and btw you guys saying that PCs are the most popular gaming machines will be majorly mistaken.

Moses
05-24-2007, 06:10 PM
I could run off the #s from Game Informer, and btw you guys saying that PCs are the most popular gaming machines will be majorly mistaken.

It's hard to compare right now. I don't think there are sufficient statistics available when it comes to the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. It should be noted that Counter-Strike: Source is still the most popular online FPS and World of Warcraft is the most popular online game.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 06:12 PM
It's hard to compare right now. I don't think there are sufficient statistics available when it comes to the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. It should be noted that Counter-Strike: Source is still the most popular online FPS and World of Warcraft is the most popular online game.

You play source? Whats your steam ID?

Moses
05-24-2007, 06:16 PM
You play source? Whats your steam ID?

I'm not sure. Why? Wanna play? ;)

I have to warn you, I'm pretty unstoppable at CS.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 06:19 PM
I'm not sure. Why? Wanna play? ;)

I have to warn you, I'm pretty unstoppable at CS.

Yeah, I do wanna play actually. I must counter-warn you...I am a beast with the AWP. On Dust 2...its over.

Moses
05-24-2007, 06:20 PM
Yeah, I do wanna play actually. I must counter-warn you...I am a beast with the AWP. On Dust 2...its over.

Ugh, AWP. I usually play on AWP-banned servers. Still, I have no doubt that I'll annihilate you. :)

Pick a server, post the IP, and I'll join.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 06:22 PM
Ugh, AWP. I usually play on AWP-banned servers. Still, I have no doubt that I'll annihilate you. :)

Pick a server, post the IP, and I'll join.

Crowded server or a bare one?

Moses
05-24-2007, 06:23 PM
Crowded server or a bare one?

Whatever you want.

Phrost
05-24-2007, 06:24 PM
Whatever you want.

66.36.239.136:27017

Moses
05-24-2007, 06:24 PM
66.36.239.136:27017

See ya there. Happy fragging.

frogstomp
05-24-2007, 08:32 PM
PC gaming is a completely seperate type, which can't really be involved in any console gaming discussion.

However, for me to make my computer able to play games like my 360 can, it would take me a lot of time, and more money than my 360. The only bonus would be that my games would be free... but I enjoy the controller more than mouse and keyboard for everything but strategy games.


Also, for me, Xbox Live > Computer online. I can private chat my friends who are in other games, I can see what all my friends are playing, I can message them, I can message my friends on their PC's, as well. I can also check my friends achievements, which is neat, seeing the types of things they have done compared to me. *shrug*

PoopSandwich
05-24-2007, 10:27 PM
When will people realize that PC is better than both PS3 and Xbox 360.

That goes without saying.

PoopSandwich
05-24-2007, 10:28 PM
Grand Theft Auto is not an exclusive. Haze is likely to be ported to the 360, but the chances are 50/50, so I'll give you that for now. Splinter Cell DA was for both, but Conviction will not be for the PS3. It has been announced. Final Fantasy is likely for the 360. You left out Bioshock, PGR series, Forza series (I think both of those are better than Gran Turismo, anyways), Gears of War, Alan Wake, Too Human, etc. Huxley has a single player game that looks good, and is actually quite likely to be successful as it already has a large fanbase before release, which is what is critical to mmo's. I also didn't even mention Two Worlds, Halo Wars, Banjo-Kazooie 3 and Viva Pinata (I don't care for either, but apparently a lot of people do... go figure), Dead or Alive series, Wolfenstein, Blue Dragon. *shrug*

Your knowledge of video games is obviously limited at best, as you often say completely false things, or have no idea what's going on at some points (especially when you compared Prey and Mass Effect... what the hell?). Also, you may not have enjoyed Lost Planet or Dead Rising, but each have experienced very strong sales and have had a strong fanbase.

If you look at the sales figures for this month, the PS3 looks like it will come in around 80 K again, making that 2 straight months. As I stated earlier, if this continues, third part developers will be jumping ship, leaving the 360 with even more exclusives.

The future is bright for my 360, and hopefully that means next gen no consoles will cost $600...

I have a 360 like I said multiple times, I just hate the constant PS3 bashing.

Also, how the hell didn't you get my reference of Prey?

I was saying just because a game looks badass or there is some hype behind it, doesn't mean its going to be flat out amazing... Like, Prey.

As for the price, $600 for a system that has tons of features, as well as gaming abilities and a BR player...

$400 for a 360... or $400 for a PS3 and $200 for a BR player... I'll take the PS3/BR player.

frogstomp
05-24-2007, 11:01 PM
I have a 360 like I said multiple times, I just hate the constant PS3 bashing.

Also, how the hell didn't you get my reference of Prey?

I was saying just because a game looks badass or there is some hype behind it, doesn't mean its going to be flat out amazing... Like, Prey.

As for the price, $600 for a system that has tons of features, as well as gaming abilities and a BR player...

$400 for a 360... or $400 for a PS3 and $200 for a BR player... I'll take the PS3/BR player.


*sigh*, in that case, MGS4, Socom, all Final Fantasy games, Halo 3, all could be good... but they may suck, like Prey (see how idiotic that is?). Anyways, Prey isn't even that bad of a game, and didn't get that much hype.

As for your cost analysis... that's only if someone even wants a Blue Ray player (and a mediocre version of one at that). I don't want Blue Ray, and if in the end it wins out, I'll be able to get a significantly better stand alone for $200. Also, then next gen, who the hell knows what kind of useless ad on it will have which will raise the prices of consoles even more. You truly do not understand the economy, or video gaming.

kalbears13
05-24-2007, 11:30 PM
See ya there. Happy fragging.

Who was the n00b who got p00ned? Tell me who's 1337

d34ng3l021
05-25-2007, 12:04 AM
Damn. Did I miss out? Lets CS again guys.

AHH STARCRAFT II! Its gonna be awesome.

PoopSandwich
05-25-2007, 08:38 AM
You truly do not understand the economy, or video gaming.

Because my opinion differs from yours?

Right....

I am sorry I will stop having an opinion oh mighty Microsoft fan boy.

Also, way to ruin a completely good thread on Assassins Creed by "Ruining the Hopes of another PS3 Owner"

frogstomp
05-25-2007, 10:44 AM
you haven't said anything that can't be done on a computer. and i have serious doubts that upgrading your computer would cost the $400ish dollars a 360 cost, unless you're upgrading the wrong parts. it MAY take some time if you don't really know what you're doing.

unlike the ps3/360 debate in which you're wrong, i don't really care what people think of consoles vs. pcs for gaming. my PC is hands down better and always will be better than any console available. but that's a personal choice i've made. what pisses me off are the implications that it's either some massively expensive device to upgrade (which it can be, if you're an idiot and listen to the guys at best buy) or that consoles are in any vague way technically superior. i'd absolutely make the argument that consoles can be better for gaming in that all you do is push in a cd and things (99% of the time, unless you have a 360 and get the red light thing) work. pcs can be a bit trickier if you aren't technically proficient.


On a computer I can't be in game while I private chat (voice) with someone in another game. You can't do that on a PC... well, maybe over the telephone...

It wouldn't cost me $400? I have a Pentium III 1999 Dell Opitplex GX1. I would have to buy an entirely new computer. Please.

As for Winslow Bodden, your statements regarding videogames were generally incorrect, and your price breakdown and inability to see that if the most expensive console wins this time consoles will be more expensive next time, is why I made my statement. It had nothing to do with opinion, and everything to do with fact.


As for being a Microsoft fanboy, I have stated at least twice in this very discussion that I hope the Wii wins this generation... so I don't really know what conversation you have been reading.

Edit* Oh, njx, I'd like to see where, exactly, I'm wrong in the PS3/360 argument.

frogstomp
05-25-2007, 11:04 AM
Hahaha, now Sony is being sued over BluRay.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6171498.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;2

frogstomp
05-25-2007, 12:07 PM
there are about 4.5 million internet services that allow for voice chat over the internet and which are equally easy to deal with.



*shrug* find me your system specs (all of them) and i'd be willing to bet i could put together a price quote in range of what one might spend on a fresh 360 set-up.



it would be far easier to point out where you AREN'T wrong. but then, the space would empty, so i won't bother. it's become quite clear to me that you ignore all things logical in your debates about the ps3 and 360. the articles you reference are from sources clearly receiving compensation from microsoft, and are thus, by design, completely biased. you probably even hate the color blue now. that's cool. rabble rabble rabble rabble.


A) Yeah, they wouldn't work nearly as well as it does on my xbox, a fact you're simply ignoring. While you're playing whatever game you're playing you can't chat with one player playing a different game, and then text message another. Theoretically I can get a browser on my 360, therefore making it perform all the tasks I use my computer for (MSN, browsing, music), so... maybe my 360 is better than my computer?

B) I ignore all things logical? O Rly? NPD is what everyone uses for sales figures, and they show that the PS3 is doing horribly (around 80 K last month, projected to be around 80 K this month). What leads from having a system that is hard to design for, as well as not selling well? A loss of 3rd party developers (WOW! That's what I said earlier, painted out step by step, so even you can't get lost). Obviously you know quite a bit about PC's, but your knowledge of consoles is mediocre at best. As for my links, what links have I even used here that are so obviously paid off? An article about Sony being sued? How can that be biased in any goddamn way, it's a company getting sued. Idiot. I would like to see you prove one thing wrong about something I've said in this thread... seeing as you can't, you'll probably start making vague "everything" statements, so you don't actually have to argue about something console related and show how you really don't know what you're talking about.

frogstomp
05-25-2007, 12:40 PM
you're actually going to pause your game, text someone, then chat with someone? and you think you CAN'T do the exact same thing on a computer? gosh, i can't think of any technology that does all of that and is specifically built for computer games (http://www.xfire.com/) (http://www.xfire.com/%29). nor can i think of any system that lets you exit or pause a game to text or voice chat with someone while you're in game (http://www.skype.com, http://messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php, http://www.aim.com/) (http://www.aim.com/%29). yup, that's an xbox live! only service. or something. i'm sure the dev time spent on chat on the xbox was roughly equal to the time spent on products that actually specialize solely in the ability to chat or text while doing other applications. yeah, the xbox one is probably far better. or something. your last statement is ludicrous at best and not worth discussion.



it's funny how seriously you take this, moreso given the history of why i might be telling you you're wrong about everything ps3/360 related. i'll assume you need liqour or that you're bitter canuckia doesn't celebrate memorial day and you're pissed i have monday off, and that's why.


The chat feature you're completely not understanding. It's so much easier on 360, as well as it gives you your entire friends list that you can voice chat with instantly. *shrug* Even my hardcore friends concede that the voice chat and messaging system on the 360 with the unified friends list is better in game than computer. My last statement was obviously sarcasm. My point was that just because something has the same features doesn't mean it's as well done, easy to use, or as good.

As for how seriously I took it, you're the one that called me "ignorant and biased" despite the fact that I haven't said anything in this thread that wasn't blatantly obvious or simply fact. Combined with the fact that I have said multiple times I want the Wii to win.

frogstomp
05-25-2007, 01:15 PM
do you have no recollection of the original ps3 vs 360 threads? i would've figured they were seared into the collective memory of o/t posters the same way the vick vs. manning thread was seared into the memory of nfl board posters.


Honestly? No. When a discussion is finished I've pretty much forgotten about it on here, seeing as I don't really care one way or another. However, if you had problems with links I was using at the time, you could have said something then, instead of bringing it up at a time when none of it applied. You know, so it made sense.

ccB
05-25-2007, 01:17 PM
Frogstomp vs NJX, Havent seen one of these debates in a while.

frogstomp
05-25-2007, 01:22 PM
see? christ, there were like 400 of those threads. thus the running joke that you're only wrong about the 360.


*shrug*

Whatever.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
05-25-2007, 10:06 PM
it's funny how seriously you take this, moreso given the history of why i might be telling you you're wrong about everything ps3/360 related. i'll assume you need liqour or that you're bitter canuckia doesn't celebrate memorial day and you're pissed i have monday off, and that's why.


Actually we just got last Monday off for Victoria Day.
kthxbye