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FutureScout
11-25-2006, 01:17 AM
There are three great RB's this year that are making people excited about the potential of all three. They all have a different style of game, but based on what you have seen who do you think is the best? Im very tired right and and very happy about the game today from A&M whooping tu so excuse my poor thoughts on the 3 great RB's.

Michael Goodson, RB, Texas A&M:
777 yrds rushing, 6.9 ypc, 4 tds (keep in mind that A&M uses J-Train who has 19 tds rushing) , 100 yrds receiving

Easily the best all around back in the country as a freshman. Could be the next Reggie Bush. Has to share time with 2nd leading scorer for TD's, Jorvorskie Lane. Has blazing speed, and has a nose for big plays at any given moment.

CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson:
759 yrds rushing, 6.7 ypc, 8 tds, 193 yrds receiving

My pick of best PURE RB in the country as a Freshman. Endless potential. Has to share time with James Davis who of course is one of the best in college, but still makes up for the carries he gets. Is an excellent runner and has good burst of speed.

Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State:
567 yrds rushing, 5.6 ypc, 7 tds, 16 yrds receiving

Great young power back who has potential to be one of the greats. Shares time with Antonio Pittman. Is under the radar because of the soon to be Heisman winner Troy Smith and the speedster Teddy Ginn Jr. Shows great movement with his feet for such a big RB. When all is said and done, Wells could easily be a man among the two other's listed.

4pAc
11-25-2006, 01:23 AM
Spiller can FLY

doingthisinsteadofwork
11-25-2006, 01:35 AM
I like Wells.

ccB
11-25-2006, 01:42 AM
Beanie will be the best out of those 3.

D-Unit
11-25-2006, 01:47 AM
I'm pretty sure the answer you're looking for is Reggie McNeal. :lol:

Windy
11-25-2006, 01:50 AM
:lol: ^

I'd go with Spiller

smittyjs
11-25-2006, 01:51 AM
Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State:

soybean
11-25-2006, 01:51 AM
emmanuel moody.

IrishBrowns
11-25-2006, 07:34 AM
isnt PJ Hill a freshman?

Space Ghost
11-25-2006, 07:46 AM
Michael Goodson, no A&M bias either... :lol: I still think he is awsome though. Actual choice would be Chris Wells though. He should go to the NFL in the draft, he is ready.

SeanTaylorRIP
11-25-2006, 08:52 AM
As a pro prospect it's easy Spiller.

RyanLeaf#1
11-25-2006, 08:53 AM
isnt PJ Hill a freshman?

Im with you.

Boston
11-25-2006, 10:03 AM
isnt PJ Hill a freshman?

Im with you.

That was my thought.

danman253
11-25-2006, 10:25 AM
Hill is a RS Frosh and is the Best Freshamn. The Best true freshman is Chris Wells.

GB12
11-25-2006, 12:28 PM
isnt PJ Hill a freshman?

Im with you.

That was my thought.

If he counts then it has to be him. 1533 yards and 15 TDs basically doubles each of them. If it's true Freshmen I like Spiller.

draftguru151
11-25-2006, 12:36 PM
This is another one of those threads where you try and say, hey look at the player in my team that is better than the other guys, when in fact he is the worst of the group. It's Spiller right now, and then Wells.

And Goodson may be splitting time with Lane but Spiller splits time with James Davis who is better than Lane, and he has Meriweather.

draftguru151
11-25-2006, 12:55 PM
Yea, it's Spiller.

someone447
11-25-2006, 12:56 PM
PJ Hill is the best freshman running back. No doubt. But if it is true running back, I will say spiller.

thetedginnshow
11-25-2006, 01:11 PM
I like Goodson, but I like Spiller too, and C.J.'s a lot better than him. Over the long haul though, once he starts to glue the ball to his hands, I'll take Mr. Wells.

gstock05
11-25-2006, 01:38 PM
Spiller wins it for this year, but when wells is starting next year, he'll easily be the best.

When you average 5.6 yards per carry as a 3rd down back who runs 90% of the time when the other team knows about it, you have some talent. Just needs to stop fumbling.

Spiller will be great too, not sure how much power he'll ever be able to run with however.

draftguru151
11-25-2006, 01:40 PM
You don't need to run people over when they can't catch you.

doingthisinsteadofwork
11-25-2006, 01:59 PM
The best Freshman rb is Keiland Williams.

CC
11-25-2006, 02:52 PM
The best Freshman rb is Keiland Williams.

I don't know about that, but he is definitely underappreciated.

metafour
11-25-2006, 03:01 PM
Ben Tate: 369 yards rushing and 3 TDs in about 3 full games, 7.4 yards per carry. Thats as the third string runningback in the SEC, if he was top 2 like Wells or Spiller theres no question in my mind he'd blow up. He had 200 yards less than Wells who played a role in pretty much every Ohio State game.

weezer1195
11-25-2006, 03:33 PM
spiller deff takes it this year. I dont really think alot of the weaknesses being brought up for spiller or wells is that big of a deal. People forget just how young these guys are. Lets say they dont come out early they still have 3 more years to mature, put on weight, get stronger, refine technique, etc. Nobody remembers how much reggie bush weighed freshman year or how many times cadillac fumbled. These two are head and shoulders above the other true frosh.

FutureScout
11-25-2006, 06:36 PM
Gah, Spiller was on fire today. He's got my vote.

doingthisinsteadofwork
11-25-2006, 06:37 PM
Gah, Spiller was on fire today. He's got my vote.yah to bad clemson still lossed. :lol:

keylime_5
11-25-2006, 06:40 PM
To all those who voted Spiller, watch Wells for a change. I think Wells might win the heisman in 2008 if all works out well

draftguru151
11-25-2006, 06:46 PM
To all those who voted Spiller, watch Wells for a change. I think Wells might win the heisman in 2008 if all works out well

That makes no sense. What would people see this year that would make Wells better than Spiller? Did Wells do this?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ATUpTLhzet0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9LBNA6kQWXA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xcIrLwzg9-c

Does Wells have over 1100 yards? Average over 6.7 ypc? Have 12 TDs? Have 6 100 yard games? No he doesn't. There is nothing that Wells has done on the field that would prove he is better than Spiller.

yourfavestoner
11-25-2006, 07:44 PM
Gah, Spiller was on fire today. He's got my vote.yah to bad clemson still lossed. :lol:

Yeah, too bad you can't spell.

The Unseen
11-25-2006, 07:45 PM
Gah, Spiller was on fire today. He's got my vote.yah to bad clemson still lossed. :lol:

Lossing is good for your eeth.

rainbeaukid2
11-26-2006, 01:35 AM
i personally like spiller a lot because of his great speed but i think that wells will be the best and is currently the best

danman253
11-26-2006, 01:37 AM
To all those who voted Spiller, watch Wells for a change. I think Wells might win the heisman in 2008 if all works out well

You're not a homer :roll:

Thunderstruck
11-26-2006, 09:10 PM
Right now, I'd say C.J. Spiller. He has made a bundle of head-turning plays for Clemson this year.

Next year, I'd go with Chris Wells. The kid has galactic potential and I think Tressel will be going back to a run-oriented offense. I wish Big Ten defenses luck during the remaining two years of Wells' tenure in Columbus...they're going to need it.

Finsfan79
11-27-2006, 08:08 AM
May I suggest that Javaris James from Da U should be up there as well. Edge's little cousin has been running great all year long since he was getting some starts. Despite having an idiot for a coach.

But I think Spiller is the best so far for them all.

RWFender1
11-27-2006, 10:18 AM
Emmanuel Moody and CJ Gable pretty close behind

'backer
11-27-2006, 10:57 AM
Chris Wells against the nations #1 run defense:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C9SIoMJINro

P-L
11-27-2006, 11:39 AM
Chris Wells will be beastly, but C.J. Spiller looks like he's the best right now. His speed is unreal.

suposed2bsweated
11-27-2006, 12:42 PM
Spiller is good no doubt, but he doesnt seem to have great feet like alot of running backs. ie reggie bush.

He takes alot of wasted steps when cutting, makes basic cuts/sidesteps and just uses speed.. in the nfl those extra steps will be stopped in their tracks.

On the + side his balance seems to be great and speed topnotch

FutureScout
11-27-2006, 03:24 PM
Congrats, Wells did that against the #1 ranked defense.
Goodson did this against the #1 ranked RUSH defense in the nation.

http://agclips.com/images/football/2006/texas/texas03.wmv
http://agclips.com/images/football/2006/texas/texas02.wmv

He had 15 carries for 86 yards. He also had a 5.7 ypc and one TD.

danman253
11-27-2006, 03:25 PM
Congrats, Wells did that against the #1 ranked defense.
Goodson did this against the #1 ranked RUSH defense in the nation.

http://agclips.com/images/football/2006/texas/texas03.wmv
http://agclips.com/images/football/2006/texas/texas02.wmv

He had 15 carries for 86 yards. He also had a 5.7 ypc and one TD.
Michigans run d>Texas' run d

FutureScout
11-27-2006, 09:45 PM
not before the game. Texas had an average of 42 yards rushing a game if im right. It is like 41 or 43 yrds rushing a game. AD had 100 something on 30 something carries. Give me Texas rush D.

draftguru151
11-27-2006, 09:49 PM
May I suggest that Javaris James from Da U should be up there as well. Edge's little cousin has been running great all year long since he was getting some starts. Despite having an idiot for a coach.

But I think Spiller is the best so far for them all.

I don't believe I didn't mention him. He is definately a baller. Not great speed or power, but a nice blend of both and good quickness and balance and good vision for a RB. I remember saying before the FSU game this kid was going to be a stud, looks like I am right.

Spiller is still better though.

draftguru151
11-27-2006, 09:51 PM
I don't see how anyone can say anyone other than Spiller right now.

elway777
11-27-2006, 10:26 PM
emmanuel moody.


No :?

Emanuel Moody isnt better than C.J. Gable.

snuff
11-27-2006, 10:36 PM
not before the game. Texas had an average of 42 yards rushing a game if im right. It is like 41 or 43 yrds rushing a game. AD had 100 something on 30 something carries. Give me Texas rush D. No one runs on then because they can pass for 500 yards... No one runs on Michigan because they can't...

Petterson had 109 yards on 22 carries also.

NOT TO MENTION MICHIGAN IS #1 STILL....

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2006&div=4&rpt=IA_teamrushdef&site=org

gstock05
11-27-2006, 11:20 PM
You don't need to run people over when they can't catch you.

Actually, you do need to run over some people some times. When there is no space to "run away" from people, it's generally a better idea to run through them than away from them.

Regardless, this runningback class is amazing.

doingthisinsteadofwork
11-27-2006, 11:22 PM
I don't see how anyone can say anyone other than Spiller right now.Spiller really impressed me with his speed id change my vote but i cant.

rainbeaukid2
11-27-2006, 11:40 PM
cj gable was pretty beastly in the USC vs. ND game

danman253
11-27-2006, 11:53 PM
not before the game. Texas had an average of 42 yards rushing a game if im right. It is like 41 or 43 yrds rushing a game. AD had 100 something on 30 something carries. Give me Texas rush D.The Fact you live in texas would have no relevance to that though... AD ran for 100 on them on 20 carries, not 30. Wells and Pittman break off two big runs which benefitted alot to their numbers. So no, I take michigans in a heartbeat.

djp
11-27-2006, 11:54 PM
Spiller is just ridiculously explosive. You are seeing what Noel Devine will be next year for whoever gets him (or in 3, when he qualifies).

I like Keiland Williams, but I don't think he has the durability to last an SEC schedule, same with Ben Tate.

Goodson has been pretty good, but not on the level of Wells or Spiller.

I think Spiller will be the better college back and Wells being the better pro prospect of the two.

FutureScout
11-28-2006, 03:08 PM
Spiller is just ridiculously explosive. You are seeing what Noel Devine will be next year for whoever gets him (or in 3, when he qualifies).

I like Keiland Williams, but I don't think he has the durability to last an SEC schedule, same with Ben Tate.

Goodson has been pretty good, but not on the level of Wells or Spiller.

I think Spiller will be the better college back and Wells being the better pro prospect of the two.

I'll give you Spiller being better than Goodson, but no way Wells is better this year. What has Wells done that Goodson hasn't done. And don't say anything team wise. Goodson amazes everyone. CJ Spiller is on his own level with Goodson right behind him. Corso thinks Goodson is the next Reggie Bush. That is saying something for Spiller.
It goes Spiller, Goodson, and then Wells.

Fred Savage
11-28-2006, 07:43 PM
Watch out for Lamarcus Coker in the near future. If it wasnt for a knee injury you would be hearing a lot more about this guy.
http://www.covers.com/images/2006/180x180/coker_lamarcus061022b.jpg

keylime_5
11-28-2006, 09:06 PM
I think Spiller will be the better college back and Wells being the better pro prospect of the two.

Crap, I think Wells will be a heisman finalist in 2008, and All-Big Ten in 2007 and 08

draftguru151
11-28-2006, 09:37 PM
I think Spiller will be the better college back and Wells being the better pro prospect of the two.

Crap, I think Wells will be a heisman finalist in 2008, and All-Big Ten in 2007 and 08

You think every OSU player is going to win everything.

danman253
11-28-2006, 09:49 PM
I think Spiller will be the better college back and Wells being the better pro prospect of the two.

Crap, I think Wells will be a heisman finalist in 2008, and All-Big Ten in 2007 and 08

Yeah becuz there is no way he can get hurt or get in legal trouble or thingsa of that nature. I could of sworn AD would win the heisman this year, but hey...

TIP
11-28-2006, 11:49 PM
I think Spiller will be the better college back and Wells being the better pro prospect of the two.

Crap, I think Wells will be a heisman finalist in 2008, and All-Big Ten in 2007 and 08

You think every OSU player is going to win everything.

QFT

dcarey20
11-29-2006, 02:22 PM
Spiller....he can score from anywhere and he has really worked well with James Davis. Clemson could be amazing if they had a decent quarterback.

danman253
11-29-2006, 03:28 PM
Spiller....he can score from anywhere and he has really worked well with James Davis. Clemson could be amazing if they had a decent quarterback.They got one coming i nnext year in Willy Korn.

billybob
12-02-2006, 01:25 PM
this is easy the most exciting back in college football emmanuel moody. anyone who voted for c.j. gable, he would not even be playing if moody did not get hurt as moody was the starter the first three games. dont worry reggie bush II will be playing today against the bruins.

danman253
12-02-2006, 01:43 PM
this is easy the most exciting back in college football emmanuel moody. anyone who voted for c.j. gable, he would not even be playing if moody did not get hurt as moody was the starter the first three games. dont worry reggie bush II will be playing today against the bruins.

CJ Spiller is more like Bush than Gable...

elway777
12-02-2006, 01:50 PM
this is easy the most exciting back in college football emmanuel moody. anyone who voted for c.j. gable, he would not even be playing if moody did not get hurt as moody was the starter the first three games. dont worry reggie bush II will be playing today against the bruins.

CJ Spiller is more like Bush than Gable...

Gable reminds me of cadillac williams.

FutureScout
12-03-2006, 12:42 AM
Moody? You have to be kidding... He's good, but not top tier. The kid was a steroid maniac in the first half of his HS career I am told.

billybob
12-03-2006, 01:39 PM
moody was the starting rb over stafon johnson, allen bradford, and cj. gable that is saying something. Moody does not have the same speed as Spiller but he has way better agility (Like Bush).

danman253
12-03-2006, 03:40 PM
Billybob, you have never watched cj spiller then.

FutureScout
12-03-2006, 09:26 PM
Also its funny to whoever said Moody is Reggie Bush 2. Michael Goodson and CJ Spiller both fit the role so much better. Michael Goodson was recruited to SC as the next Reggie Bush, something Moody wasn't recruited as.

elway777
12-03-2006, 09:33 PM
Also its funny to whoever said Moody is Reggie Bush 2. Michael Goodson and CJ Spiller both fit the role so much better. Michael Goodson was recruited to SC as the next Reggie Bush, something Moody wasn't recruited as.

Emanuel Moody is Chad Morton 2.

elway777
12-03-2006, 09:35 PM
Billybob, you have never watched cj spiller then.

I've watched both and yeah its actually true Danman Moody beats Spiller in lateral agility,although Spiller also can carry a football in his arms.

danman253
12-03-2006, 09:38 PM
Billybob, you have never watched cj spiller then.

I've watched both and yeah its actually true Danman Moody beats Spiller in lateral agility,although Spiller also can carry a football in his arms.
Not saying he isn't, but the term "way better agility" is crazy.

FutureScout
12-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Moody- plays against Pac10. Very hard conference :roll:
Spiller- plays in ACC, not great this year but still a lot better on defense
Goodson- Big 12, and tears it up there. alot better than pac 10


All in all, Moody plays against terrible comp. while Spiller and Goodson play hard comp.

Put Spiller or Goodson at USC and you would see total domination.

elway777
12-04-2006, 09:24 PM
Moody- plays against Pac10. Very hard conference :roll:
Spiller- plays in ACC, not great this year but still a lot better on defense
Goodson- Big 12, and tears it up there. alot better than pac 10


All in all, Moody plays against terrible comp. while Spiller and Goodson play hard comp.

Put Spiller or Goodson at USC and you would see total domination.

You totally discredit your whole statement by saying the Big 12 is ALOT better than the Pac 10. :lol:

danman253
12-05-2006, 12:36 AM
FS, The big 12 is the worst BCS conference...

TheMikey10
12-20-2006, 05:29 PM
i say spiller

dRaFtDoRk
12-20-2006, 05:32 PM
As much as I hate doing it, I voted for Spiller, he's just too much for a lot of ACC teams. Chris Wells is barely behind him though.

TH3
12-20-2006, 05:40 PM
Demarco Murray

HawkeyeFan
12-20-2006, 05:44 PM
CJ Spiller.


Just curious though, isn't Jonathan Stewart a Freshman?

elway777
12-20-2006, 05:53 PM
Sophmore

smittyjs
12-20-2006, 06:35 PM
Sophmore :?

BerninWI
12-21-2006, 04:10 PM
Chris "Beanie" Wells. He seems moreso the type of back who you could get consistent yards with, and dominate with the rush game. In addition to occasionally breaking off the big one. He has a tremendous combo platter of speed and power. The runs that I've seen from Wells were individually more impressive. It just wasn't all blocking. When I've seen Spiller, he's taken advantage of holes with his speed, but the holes have been huge. I could have run for a hundred against Georgia Tech with the holes that the O-Line were creating, and in some other games as well.

draftguru151
12-21-2006, 05:51 PM
Chris "Beanie" Wells. He seems moreso the type of back who you could get consistent yards with, and dominate with the rush game. In addition to occasionally breaking off the big one. He has a tremendous combo platter of speed and power. The runs that I've seen from Wells were individually more impressive. It just wasn't all blocking. When I've seen Spiller, he's taken advantage of holes with his speed, but the holes have been huge. I could have run for a hundred against Georgia Tech with the holes that the O-Line were creating, and in some other games as well.

While I agree that Wells is more the type of back that will get consistent yards, what Spiller did was crazy. He wasn't always running through holes with no one here. He made his fair share of people look like fools.

70challenger457
12-21-2006, 06:37 PM
In the michigan-ohio state game, Wells looked scary good to me, I was really impressed

Pokeys
12-21-2006, 06:42 PM
I like Goodson but both Wells and Spiller are much better than him. Gimme Spiller though I love his rushing style.

steelcrew43
12-21-2006, 08:57 PM
wells(homer)

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
12-28-2006, 10:07 PM
Best freshman RB is Emmanuel Moody, not far behind is Stafon Johnson.