Kobe wants to be traded? [Archive] - Page 4

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-27-2007, 02:09 PM

Phx trades - Amare Stoudemire to Atl
Atl trades - No 3, No 11, Zaza Pachulia, and Anthony Johnson to Min
Min trades - Kevin Garnet to Phx

it's a done deal by tommorrow evening

If Stoudemire is available, why wouldn't the Wolves just take him, instead of routing him to Atlanta for two first round picks. It's Amare Stoudemire!!!!

I agree with Mr. Ford 100%.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 07:32 AM

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 08:02 AM

The Lakers should just let the Kobster hang around for a little while just to get the Kobster to sweat a little.

The Princess wants to be traded, wants to stay, wants to be traded. The Lakers should not give into her demands easily.

Are you insinuating that it would or could be easy for the Lakers to just trade Kobe? It's extremely difficult to trade a superstar and get decent value in return. Also, Kobe has a no-trade clause in his contract, which means he'd have to approve the team he'd be going to, and the real contenders in the league aren't going to want to give up too many key pieces of their roster to get him. Chicago is the obvious destination, but they're going to have a hard ass time trying to match salaries without involving Ben Wallace (who the Lakers probably won't want). I don't believe for a second that the Lakers have not been getting a feel for what they could get in return for Kobe, but I don't think there will be anything they'll really like.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 08:55 AM

Are you insinuating that it would or could be easy for the Lakers to just trade Kobe? It's extremely difficult to trade a superstar and get decent value in return. Also, Kobe has a no-trade clause in his contract, which means he'd have to approve the team he'd be going to, and the real contenders in the league aren't going to want to give up too many key pieces of their roster to get him. Chicago is the obvious destination, but they're going to have a hard ass time trying to match salaries without involving Ben Wallace (who the Lakers probably won't want). I don't believe for a second that the Lakers have not been getting a feel for what they could get in return for Kobe, but I don't think there will be anything they'll really like.

Whether she likes it or not, the Kobster is going to stay with the Lakers for a while for the reasons you mentioned.

The Lakers traded Shaq and never got anything equal in turn. They are not going to make that mistake again. They probably should have traded the Princess instead of Shaq the first time around. Shooting guards are easier to replace than centers.

ATLDirtyBirds

06-28-2007, 09:11 AM

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 09:58 AM

You should stop using the phrase "Kobster".

Should I use "The Princess" instead?

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 10:01 AM

Should I use "The Princess" instead?

No, you should stop acting like a jackass with all of your blind hatred for the best player in the game.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 10:07 AM

No, you should stop acting like a jackass with all of your blind hatred for the best player in the game.

The Princess is not the best player in the game. I'd take Tim Duncan over the Princess any day. I also would take LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony as well. Shooting the ball 40 times a game doesn't make you the best player in the game.

The Kobster is one of the top 10 best players, but since she acts like a spoiled Princess, I can think of plenty of other players I like over her.

YAYareaRB

06-28-2007, 10:12 AM

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 10:18 AM

The Princess is not the best player in the game. I'd take Tim Duncan over the Princess any day. I also would take LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony as well. Shooting the ball 40 times a game doesn't make you the best player in the game.

The Kobster is one of the top 10 best players, but since she acts like a spoiled Princess, I can think of plenty of other players I like over her.

I don't give a damn who you like and don't like, but if you think Carmelo f'n Anthony is a better player than Kobe Bryant... well, I would say you're a complete and total idiot, but I don't think there was any doubt about that to begin with. Ask anybody with any true knowledge of the game and they will tell you Kobe is the best player in the league right now. No, shooting the ball 40 times a game doesn't make you the best -- being the best offensive player in the game, bar none, as well as an excellent defender (something your boy Lebron knows nothing about), does. Your hatred for Kobe is truly blind, because you have literally NO knowledge of what makes a great player, well, great. By the way, Kobe averaged 22.8 shot attempts this year -- compared to 20.8 for LeBron, and 22.4 for your boy 'Melo. Why don't you attempt to give a VALID reason as to why you don't think Kobe is the best player in the league.

YAYareaRB

06-28-2007, 10:36 AM

I don't give a damn who you like and don't like, but if you think Carmelo f'n Anthony is a better player than Kobe Bryant... well, I would say you're a complete and total idiot, but I don't think there was any doubt about that to begin with. Ask anybody with any true knowledge of the game and they will tell you Kobe is the best player in the league right now. No, shooting the ball 40 times a game doesn't make you the best -- being the best offensive player in the game, bar none, as well as an excellent defender (something your boy Lebron knows nothing about), does. Your hatred for Kobe is truly blind, because you have literally NO knowledge of what makes a great player, well, great. By the way, Kobe averaged 22.8 shot attempts this year -- compared to 20.8 for LeBron, and 22.4 for your boy 'Melo. Why don't you attempt to give a VALID reason as to why you don't think Kobe is the best player in the league.

Try not to include team things and rape.. lol

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 10:45 AM

Try not to include team things and rape.. lol

I will give the Kobster a pass on the rape charge as there was too many holes in her story.

But as far as team play goes, the Princess has a long way to go to learn that concept. Plus she is a drama queen when it comes babbling about locker room politics to the press (see Shaq, Karl Malone, and others).

LeBron got his team to the finals without a much of a supporting cast. The Kobster hasn't won a playoff series since she traded away Shaq.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 10:55 AM

I will give the Kobster a pass on the rape charge as there was too many holes in her story.

But as far as team play goes, the Princess has a long way to go to learn that concept. Plus she is a drama queen when it comes babbling about locker room politics to the press (see Shaq, Karl Malone, and others).

LeBron got his team to the finals without a much of a supporting cast. The Kobster hasn't won a playoff series since she traded away Shaq.

Way to completely ignore such important facts as, I don't know, Kobe plays in the Western Conference which is infinitely tougher than LeBron's Eastern Conference. If you'd replace Kobe with LeBron, the Lakers would not be better than they are now. If you'd put Kobe in the East, whatever team he's on would become an instant contender.

I'm not sure what you mean by "team play," but if I had to ask I'm sure you'd just talk some more about the Shaq situation. Certainly you aren't talking about anything that happens on the court. You seem to ignore those minor details when making your points...

Being a "drama queen" has nothing to do with basketball skill. I'm still waiting for you to make some valid points, pertaining to basketball skill, as to why you don't think Kobe is the best player in the game. You can't. You're a dunce.

YAYareaRB

06-28-2007, 11:04 AM

frogstomp

06-28-2007, 11:06 AM

You should stop using the phrase "Kobster".

He thinks coming up with "great" nicknames will make him popular... when really it just makes him appear less intelligent, which is pretty hard to do.

YAYareaRB

06-28-2007, 11:08 AM

He thinks coming up with "great" nicknames will make him popular... when really it just makes him appear less intelligent, which is pretty hard to do.

What's your take on calling him 'the princess'?

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 11:28 AM

The only reason why Kobe had problems with Karl Malone is because Karl was trying to make a pass at Kobe's wife.. Being a Eastern Conference champ is like being the 4th seed in the Western Conference. Calling him 'the princess' maybe funny in elementary school but it's just not funny here, your humor and quality of posts can be found evident in your rep bars. Your argument is not relevant so why don't you just go away..

You're being way too generous. San Antonio, Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Denver, and Utah are all clearly better teams than Cleveland. I'm not sure the Lakers couldn't have won the Eastern Conference this year, either. I'd say Cleveland would be a 7 or 8 seed in the West.

Nitschke-Hawk

06-28-2007, 11:37 AM

If we can't get Kobe on the Bulls I'd settle for Gerald Wallace, then we'd have two big guards to contribute, him and Sefolosha. He'd fit in real well.

Shiver

06-28-2007, 11:41 AM

You're being way too generous. San Antonio, Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Denver, and Utah are all clearly better teams than Cleveland. I'm not sure the Lakers couldn't have won the Eastern Conference this year, either. I'd say Cleveland would be a 7 or 8 seed in the West.

The first three, granted. However I strongly disagree with your assertion that Houston, Denver, Utah and Los Angeles would have beaten Cleveland. At the least you shouldn't say they are "clearly better." The Cavs are great on the defensive side of the ball and on the glass, and they have one of the league's preeminent players in LeBron James. The only reason they were annihilated by the Spurs is because they play the exact same style, only not as good.

ccB

06-28-2007, 11:48 AM

The first three, granted. However I strongly disagree with your assertion that Houston, Denver, Utah and Los Angeles would have beaten Cleveland. At the least you shouldn't say they are "clearly better."

I agree, the first ones are clear but I dont think that Houston could have beat Cleveland or Detroit for that matter especially with Tracy "Choke" McGrady leading the way. I dont see how Denver could easily beat Cleveland either and I defintely dont see them beating Detroit, I just think that would be a bad matchup for them. Los Angeles could be a toss up because it would turn into a 1 on 1 game Kobe vs LBJ. Utah I agree would have probably beat the Cavs but I dont know if they would have done it easily.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 12:08 PM

Way to completely ignore such important facts as, I don't know, Kobe plays in the Western Conference which is infinitely tougher than LeBron's Eastern Conference. If you'd replace Kobe with LeBron, the Lakers would not be better than they are now. If you'd put Kobe in the East, whatever team he's on would become an instant contender.

I'm not sure what you mean by "team play," but if I had to ask I'm sure you'd just talk some more about the Shaq situation. Certainly you aren't talking about anything that happens on the court. You seem to ignore those minor details when making your points...

Being a "drama queen" has nothing to do with basketball skill. I'm still waiting for you to make some valid points, pertaining to basketball skill, as to why you don't think Kobe is the best player in the game. You can't. You're a dunce.

I will take almost any talented front court player over a talented backcourt player. Teams get farther in the playoffs with good rebounding and scoring up front. Tim Duncan is also not going to bring any locker room stuff out in the public like the Kobster does. He is also a better leader and doesn't whine like the Princess.

And let's look what happens on the court. Duncan has 4 chmpionships. The Princess has 3, of which if it wasn't for Shaq, she would have none.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 12:22 PM

I will take almost any talented front court player over a talented backcourt player. Teams get farther in the playoffs with good rebounding and scoring up front. Tim Duncan is also not going to bring any locker room stuff out in the public like the Kobster does. He is also a better leader and doesn't whine like the Princess.

For the last goddamned time, who "you would take" has nothing to do with who the most talented player is...

And let's look what happens on the court. Duncan has 4 chmpionships. The Princess has 3, of which if it wasn't for Shaq, she would have none.

And Robert Horry has the same amount of championships as Duncan and Kobe combined, so he must be the best player in the league.

Please, I'm begging you, just give it a rest and accept the fact that you're intellectually feeble and downright cretinous.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 12:39 PM

For the last goddamned time, who "you would take" has nothing to do with who the most talented player is...

And Robert Horry has the same amount of championships as Duncan and Kobe combined, so he must be the best player in the league.

Please, I'm begging you, just give it a rest and accept the fact that you're intellectually feeble and downright cretinous.

The word "talent" is subjective. To me talent is making those around you better. Duncan does this, the Kobster gets a bunch of stats, but not much else.

And if you are comparing Robert Horrey to Tim Duncan than you are the cretin. You seem to be in denial that Tim Duncan is one of the most talented players ever in the NBA. And a great citizen and teammate to boot. Something the Kobster still needs to learn.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 12:46 PM

Ugh, I'll just give up before my head explodes.

Moses

06-28-2007, 12:49 PM

The word "talent" is subjective. To me talent is making those around you better. Duncan does this, the Kobster gets a bunch of stats, but not much else.

And if you are comparing Robert Horrey to Tim Duncan than you are the cretin. You seem to be in denial that Tim Duncan is one of the most talented players ever in the NBA. And a great citizen and teammate to boot. Something the Kobster still needs to learn.

You obviously know nothing about basketball. This was apparent when you made the statement that Carmelo Anthony is better than Kobe Bryant. That is the most idiotic statement I've ever seen. An argument could be made for Duncan, and LeBron is close if he works on his defence and consistency.

Also, saying Kobe has done nothing is idiotic. He is one of the most decorated players in NBA history. He has 3 rings. How does having Shaq on his team make them any less of an accomplishment? Name one superstar who has won a championship without a great supporting case or another superstar on the team.

I know that Kobe is everything you hate in this world (I bet you hate Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Michael Vick, etc. also) but he is one of the best players of all-time.

Also, calling Kobe "she", "princess" and whatever other names you created for him do two things:
-Give further proof that you're immature and not capable of discussing things on a level other than name-calling
and
-Discredit your basketball knowledge even more

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 12:54 PM

Ugh, I'll just give up before my head explodes.

Pwned.
http://www.hellblazer.com/media/pwned.jpg

Shiver

06-28-2007, 12:56 PM

How old are you? Using the word "pwned" and constantly using eighth grade jokes (fangirls, 'she,' etc), I cannot imagine you are older than 13 or 14.

benchod

06-28-2007, 01:01 PM

People forget that the Lakers started this season on a 75% win clip, granted that wouldn't have continued, but they could've broken 53 wins or so and had the potential to be the 4th best team in the conference and the 4th seed if it wasn't for the rash of injuries.

And during that whole time that they were winning, everyone was contributing and the media was licking Kobe's balls calling him the MVP and that he had learned how to share the ball and make his teammates better. Then the injuries hit and Kobe had to revert back to being the top scorer. It'll be interesting to see how the team can perform when healthy this coming year.

There's no real moves they can make other than having someone sign for the midlevel exception. The Garnett trade is all but dead, the Camby trade is a lateral move at best, and the Kidd and O'neal trades are also long dead, its going to essentially be the same team as last season.

Moses

06-28-2007, 01:02 PM

How old are you? Using the word "pwned" and constantly using eighth grade jokes (fangirls, 'she,' etc), I cannot imagine you are older than 13 or 14.

I just looked at this post and then read your signature. I'm still laughing.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 01:02 PM

How old are you? Using the word "pwned" and constantly using eighth grade jokes (fangirls, 'she,' etc), I cannot imagine you are older than 13 or 14.

Bill Parcells liked to use the word, "she". And he was not in the 8th grade when he said it.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 01:05 PM

I know that Kobe is everything you hate in this world (I bet you hate Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Michael Vick, etc. also) but he is one of the best players of all-time.

With the exception of Terrell Owens, funny how you all the players you mentioned have been in trouble with the law. And yes, I do hate the criminal elements. And I don't have too much problems with Terrell Owens.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 01:05 PM

Bill Parcells liked to use the word, "she". And he was not in the 8th grade when he said it.

You dodge the age question almost as well as you dodge my questions about weaknesses in Kobe's game, not character.

Moses

06-28-2007, 01:06 PM

With the exception of Terrell Owens, funny how you all the players you mentioned have been in trouble with the law. And yes, I do hate the criminal elements. And I don't have too much problems with Terrell Owens.

What has Moss and Kobe done?

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 01:07 PM

You dodge the age question almost as well as you dodge my questions about weaknesses in Kobe's game, not character.

I told you, I'd take a front court player that is of equal talent over a back court player.

And character plays a big part of an NBA players game.

Andrew Bogut is so correct in his assessment of the NBA.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 01:09 PM

I told you, I'd take a front court player that is of equal talent over a back court player.

And character plays a big part of an NBA players game.

Andrew Bogut is so correct in his assessment of the NBA.

http://www.velocityjournal.com/images/logos/dodge.jpg

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 01:09 PM

What has Moss and Kobe done?

You have been living in a cave if you don't know what they have done.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 01:14 PM

http://www.velocityjournal.com/images/logos/dodge.jpg

I told you the Kobster's weakness, but you won't listen.
Just like a typical fangirl. You cover your ears and yell "I can't hear you".

Moses

06-28-2007, 01:16 PM

You have been living in a cave if you don't know what they have done.

hahahahah

You're kidding right? Moss has basically no criminal history. I think he had a traffic violation once and was caught with a small amount of marijuana in his car.

Kobe wasn't charged with rape, so I don't know what you're talking about there? If I go to court for raping somebody and it turns out that I'm innocent, how does that make me a criminal?

Everytime you open your mouth you put your foot in it.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 01:25 PM

I told you the Kobster's weakness, but you won't listen.
Just like a typical fangirl. You cover your ears and yell "I can't hear you".

You told me about character issues. I want you to tell me the weaknesses in Kobe's game that prevent him from being the best player in the league, without bringing up any off-the-court issues he's had with players/the team. Even during his rift with Shaq, they got along on the court, they were able to win championships together, and that's all that matters. You keep bringing up the same tired, irrelevant thing.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 01:26 PM

Oh and by the way, in case nobody told you, your rep doesn't do anything so just save your time.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 01:55 PM

hahahahah

You're kidding right? Moss has basically no criminal history. I think he had a traffic violation once and was caught with a small amount of marijuana in his car.

Kobe wasn't charged with rape, so I don't know what you're talking about there? If I go to court for raping somebody and it turns out that I'm innocent, how does that make me a criminal?

Everytime you open your mouth you put your foot in it.

Moss was charged with bumping a female officer. He pleaded guilty to a lesser charge.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0924/1436287.html

And Kobe was charged with rape. Get your facts straight.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/18/kobe.bryant/index.html

Moses

06-28-2007, 02:05 PM

Moss was charged with bumping a female officer. He pleaded guilty to a lesser charge.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0924/1436287.html

And Kobe was charged with rape. Get your facts straight.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/18/kobe.bryant/index.html

Do you honestly think that Moss is a terrible person because of one tiny incident like that? That is such a small thing that it's but a blip on the radar.

The link you posted just stated that Kobe would be prosecuted. Guess what? He was cleared of all charges and the case was dropped.

Is it really me that should get my facts straight? Way to put your foot in your mouth, again.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 02:10 PM

And Kobe was charged with rape. Get your facts straight.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/18/kobe.bryant/index.html

Oh, yeah?

I will give the Kobster a pass on the rape charge as there was too many holes in her story.

Literally one page back. Make up your mind, princess.

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 02:19 PM

Do you honestly think that Moss is a terrible person because of one tiny incident like that? That is such a small thing that it's but a blip on the radar.

The link you posted just stated that Kobe would be prosecuted. Guess what? He was cleared of all charges and the case was dropped.

Is it really me that should get my facts straight? Way to put your foot in your mouth, again.

Moss got arrested for assault with a deadly weapon, a felony. Not a small thing.

And you said the Kobster was never charged or was never in trouble with the law. Guess what he was.

ATLDirtyBirds

06-28-2007, 02:23 PM

How old are you? Using the word "pwned" and constantly using eighth grade jokes (fangirls, 'she,' etc), I cannot imagine you are older than 13 or 14.

Between that, and thing's like "Kobster", I'm putting the over-under at 10.

ATLDirtyBirds

06-28-2007, 02:25 PM

eacantdraft

06-28-2007, 02:25 PM

Oh, yeah?

Literally one page back. Make up your mind, princess.

What is your point? He got charged with rape. That's a fact. It never went to trial because the "victim" knew she had too shady of a past to be believable.

Why the Kobster would be attracted to such a cow in the first place when he has a wife that looks like the way she does is beyone me.

HoopsDemon12

06-28-2007, 02:30 PM

i find it entertaining to read this thread and see how far it keep detirorating from the title haha

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-28-2007, 02:31 PM

What is your point? He got charged with rape. That's a fact. It never went to trial because the "victim" knew she had too shady of a past to be believable.

Why the Kobster would be attracted to such a cow in the first place when he has a wife that looks like the way she does is beyone me.

Have you never heard of "innocent until proven guilty?" Kobe was never proven guilty, so how can you take yourself seriously when you say that he has a criminal history? If I get wrongly charged with a crime and come out innocent, how the hell was I ever "in trouble with the law?"

Green Bay Scat

06-28-2007, 02:46 PM

Man, i hate soap operas

Shiver

06-28-2007, 04:49 PM

Bill Parcells liked to use the word, "she". And he was not in the 8th grade when he said it.

You didn't answer my question.

YAYareaRB

06-28-2007, 05:01 PM

You didn't answer my question.

He's holding his hands over his ears and is saying: "I can't hear you!"..

What a little girl. You call Kobe, Kobester and The Princess like you're gonna get plus rep for being funny. Really, its about as funny as Rosie O'Donnell

cheesehead10790

06-28-2007, 05:04 PM

He's holding his hands over his ears and is saying: "I can't hear you!"..

What a little girl. You call Kobe, Kobester and The Princess like you're gonna get plus rep for being funny. Really, its about as funny as Rosie O'Donnell

Hes not funny but Rosie kinda is.. Haha fat and lesbian... Welll i think its kinda funny

Moses

06-28-2007, 05:42 PM

This is funny. eacantdraft just makes up completely ridiculous things with no evidence to back himself up. Easily the worst poster on these forums.

Shiver

06-28-2007, 05:52 PM

This is funny. eacantdraft just makes up completely ridiculous things with no evidence to back himself up. Easily the worst poster on these forums.

That is definitely the case. It's a shame he has more self control than Severe Punishment or scorchin did, otherwise he'd be gone.

BuckNaked

06-28-2007, 06:18 PM

That is definitely the case. It's a shame he has more self control than Severe Punishment or scorchin did, otherwise he'd be gone.

Wait. . .Severe Punishment was banned? If so, I am absolutely thrilled.

Shiver

06-28-2007, 11:17 PM

Wait. . .Severe Punishment was banned? If so, I am absolutely thrilled.

Can you say permanently? http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon12.gif

art vandelay

06-28-2007, 11:33 PM

Now that Sun Yue is on the Lakers, there is NO WAY that Kobe demands a trade. I mean the guy is a 6'9" guard, chinese, and as been compared to Toni Kukoc. Everybody knows that's why the Bulls won all those championships! Who else does Kobe want? So selfish.

fenikz

06-28-2007, 11:42 PM

i kinda feel sorry for kobe, he is one of the greatest players ever and he is wasted on the lakers, come to phoenix and win a championship with us

eacantdraft

06-29-2007, 08:36 AM

You didn't answer my question.

Oh no. I'm becoming Shiver, the artful dodger.

frogstomp

06-29-2007, 10:30 AM

I didn't know scorchin was banned, I thought he just left. I wish I still had my old sig quote...

Shiver

06-29-2007, 11:26 AM

Oh no. I'm becoming Shiver, the artful dodger.

Believe that if you will. Just remember that no one here respects you, and the vast majority respect me.

jballa838

06-29-2007, 11:33 AM

Believe that if you will. Just remember that no one here respects you, and the vast majority respect me.
hence why you are a mod with 10 green bars and eacantdraft has 2 reds

Shiver

06-29-2007, 12:57 PM

hence why you are a mod with 10 green bars and eacantdraft has 2 reds

I was thinking more in the lines of football acumen and maturity. Two things I have that he doesn't. His knowledge of football consists of how lousy Eli Manning and Michael Vick are, in his mind, and off the field controversies. I, on the other hand, write weekly essays on the NFL season and on a wide variety of subjects. Maturity wise, I don't resort to sophomoric insults and banter.

jballa838

06-29-2007, 12:58 PM

I was thinking more in the lines of football acumen and maturity. Two things I have that he doesn't. His knowledge of football consists of how lousy Eli Manning and Michael Vick are, in his mind, and off the field controversies. I, on the other hand, write weekly essays on the NFL season and on a wide variety of subjects. Maturity wise, I don't resort to sophomoric insults and banter.
plus, your not 10 years old

Shiver

06-29-2007, 01:02 PM

That is also true.

TPFKA#1SaintsFan

06-29-2007, 01:30 PM

I'd like to think that when I was 10 years old I was quite a bit smarter than ea.

cheesehead10790

06-29-2007, 07:35 PM

i kinda feel sorry for kobe, he is one of the greatest players ever and he is wasted on the lakers, come to phoenix and win a championship with us

Wasted??? Hardly. LA is not a place where talent is wasted, considering we have the 2nd most championships...

Phoenix is done in 3 years anyway...