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    Its been about 3 years since that draft class. After all this time, what do you think about your teams draft class?

    49ers draft class

    1. Rashaun Woods, WR
    2. Justin Smiley, OG
    3. Shawntae Spencer, CB
    4. Derrick Hamilton, WR
    5. Isaac Sopoaga, DT
    6. Richard Seigler, LB
    7. Andy Lee, P
    8. Keith Lewis, S
    9. Cody Pickett, QB
    10. Christian Ferrara, DT

    -This was a crappy draft class for the 49ers...first they traded down from pick 16 to 31, twice. In that process they passed up superior talent like shawn andrews, vince wilfork, and chris gamble. All 3 are going to be good players while woods is already out of the league. Should have drafted the BPA over the need.

    -Smiley is pretty decent. Ok run-blocker, good pass protector. Doesnt really fit the SF OL (mauling run blocking) and is more suited for a ZBS (think denver). Hopefully the 49ers can trade him and get some value for him.

    -Shawntae Spencer was the next pick. He is very inconsistent. He was terrible the first half of the 2006 season, good the next half. He was coming off an injury from preseason, but im not sure if that was the culprit for his poor play. He played very well in the 2nd half of the season but right now hes competing for the #2 CB spot next to Clements.

    -Derrick Hamilton was another big bust. What hurts is Bernard Berrian was drafted one spot after Hamilton. The 49ers could use Berrian who is a very good WR, instead of Hamilton who is also out of the league.

    -Sopoaga is very strong but he has no technique as a 3-4 NT and is a longshot to make the roster. Granted its not his fault as hes more suited for a 4-3 DT but when we played in a 4-3 he wasnt that great either.

    -Seigler is also out of the league and was literally arrested for being a pimp a short time back.

    -Andy Lee was the best pick of the draft for SF, sadly. Was locked up to a long-term contract this offseason.

    -Keith Lewis is a favorite of mine. Very aggressive physical safety who cant really cover well but was impressive in some games this season. Pretty good backup and brought some aggressiveness to the defense when he started.

    -Pickett is in NFLE and is no longer product of the 49ers...i believe the texans have his rights.

    -Ferrara is also out of the league..

    All in all, it was a bad draft. Half the draft class is no longer with the team. 2 more members may not be on the roster come september. The best this draft may produce for the 49er is a nickelback, a good punter, and a backup safety. GM Terry Donahue was fired after the 04-05 season, and this draft class is evidence of how bad he was at drafting..

    PS- Didn't think this would be so long!
    Last edited by 49ersfan_87; 06-17-2007, 04:15 PM.

  • #2
    that sucks lol...

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    • #3
      1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall
      3. Chris Cooley, TE, Utah State - 81st overall
      5. Mark Wilson, OT, California - 151st overall
      6. Jim Molinaro, OT, Notre Dame - 180th overall

      Sean Taylor - Potential to be the best safety in football. Needs pieces around him to excel. Physically there is no match to him.

      Chris Cooley - Amazing value for a 3rd round selection. Top 10 TE in the NFL. Big, quick target and a fan favorite in Washington. We better lock him up ASAP.

      Mark Wilson - On the Raiders' roster. Backup I assume.

      Jim Molinaro - I remember he was on the Skins up untill this year. He was pretty solid but cut him over the offseason. Just picked up by the Cowboys.

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      • #4
        1. Vernon Carey
        4. Will Poole
        5. Tony Bua
        6. Rex Hadnot
        7. Tony Pape
        7. Derrick Pope
        UDFA- Wes Welker

        Carey, after a rough start, did very well at RT last year and is making the move to LT this year. As of right now it's a very good pick, if he works at LT it's a fantastic pick.

        Poole showed some promise but injuries derailed his career.

        Bua had one of the most amazing special team hits I've seen, but never did anything else. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWw8mzrOtBg

        Hadnot was a fantastic pick, played OG and C, playing OG this year where he is much more effective.

        Pape was playing in Europe for a little and never did much.

        Pope is another good late round pick, good back up MLB, seems like every time he starts he leads the team in tackles.

        Welker was picked up as a FA, good returner/slot receiver, got a 2 and a 7 for him.

        Ok draft considering the picks we had, 2 OL starters and a good back up MLB, as well as Welker.

        That is correct comahan
        I ******* LOVE YOU DG
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        • #5
          1. Shawn Andrews OG - Awesome pick, one of the best OL in the league and is still very young, already has HOF potential.
          3. Matt Ware CB/S - Looked like the steal of the draft at the time, never worked out for us unfortunately, currently on the cardinals roster.
          4. J.R Reed S/KR - Looked very good as a KR his rookie season and even showed some talent at S, unfortunately got his leg torn up jumping over a fence being chased by a dog and he was never the same, not on the roster anymore, may be out of the league.
          4. Trey Darilek OL - Hasn't been on the roster for a few years, was a below average backup, don't even know if he's in the league.
          5. Thomas Tapeh FB - Currently our starting FB, solid but nothing special.
          6. Andy Hall QB - Was a developmental QB and was cut last year I believe, couldn't even be a 3rd stringer.
          6. Dexter Wynn CB - Was a solid PR but couldn't stay on the team, cut last year and I believe he's currently with the Texans
          7. Adrien Clarke C/G - Was on the roster until last year, was a below average backup at G.
          7. Bruce Perry RB - Looked promising, not on team anymore.
          7. Domonic Furio C - Not on team anymore.

          Pretty bad draft overall, Andrews is very good, and Tapeh is solid, but they are the only 2 that are still on the team, I give it a D-.
          Last edited by Go_Eagles77; 06-17-2007, 05:20 PM.

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          • #6
            2. Ben Troupe
            2. Travis LaBoy
            2. Antwan Odom
            3. Randy Starks
            3. Rich Gardner
            4. Bo Schobel
            4. Michael Waddell
            5. Jacob Bell
            5. Rob Reynolds
            6. Troy Fleming
            7. Jared Clauss
            7. Eugene Amano
            7. Sean McHugh

            Troupe started off slow, he had pretty good 2nd year, then had a bad year last year and was injured. Inconsistent and has mental lapses, but shows flashes. Ultimate tease.

            LaBoy should be a 3rd down pass rusher. He wears down over the course of a game, doesn't play the run great, and gets hurt too much.

            Odom flashes during preseason and early in the year, then fades and does nothing for the other 80&#37; of the season.

            Starks had a good rookie year, but has failed to progress, and in my opinion, he's regressed. He was terrible last year and got owned in the run game.

            Rich Gardner was a special teamer that isn't on the team anymore.

            Bo Schobel was injured all the time and is no longer on the team.

            Michael Waddell was a very good special teamer. Amazing gunner on punt teams with his speed. Had a pretty serious knee injury last year, if he loses any speed, he's done. Not a good corner.

            Jacob Bell was BY FAR the best pick. Very quality OG that can play OT in a pinch. Works perfect with Vince because of his movement ability. Very very good on pulls and getting to the 2nd level. Needs to get a lil stronger. Hopefully we lock him up.

            Rob Reynolds is a STer.

            Troy Fleming was terrible and is no longer on the team because of the man beast Ahmard Hall.

            Jared Clauss was terrible and isn't on the team

            Eugene Amano is our backup C/OG, and is supposed to be one of the strongest guys on the team. He's started a few games and always plays well. He could potentially be a future starter, or just be a solid backup interior guy.

            Sean McHugh never made the team.

            Pathetic draft overall. Jacob Bell is the only one worth a damn. The rest are backups/STers. There is still hope for Troupe since his season was derailed with injury, and possibly for Starks also.

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            • #7
              Saints

              1.) Will Smith DE Ohio State
              2.) Devery Henderson WR LSU
              2.) Courtney Watson MLB Notre Dame
              5.) Rodney Leisle NT UCLA
              5.) Mike Karney AZ State
              7.) Colby Bockwoldt OLB Brigham Young

              Only solid pick is Will Smith, who at the time was a no brainer. When you have top 10 talent fall to you at 18 you're just happy. He was finally named starter last year and did very well Grant adds the pass rushing we need to go along side Charles Grant.

              Devery is on the verge of being a bust. He did just enough last year to hold off of the label. He progressed significantly but still dropped way too many balls. Mike Karney is a solid FB and easily top 3 NFC, mayve top 5 NFL. Every other pick was a bust. Bockwoldt show'd flashes, but nothing major. Watson was playing out of position the entire time. He's a WLB, not MLB. Only players that remain on the team are Smith, Henderson, Karney and possibly Leisle (He may have gotten cut, idk).

              All in all, we got us an All-Pro DE, and a field stretching WR, and top 5 FB.

              C

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              • #8
                Okay well this was kinda a big year for SD...I'll do there's after the Eli trade, since that is what there draft class really was...

                Round 1: (4) Philip Rivers
                Round 2: (35) Igor Olshanksy
                Round 3: (65) Nate Kaeding
                Round 3: (66) Nick Hardwick
                Round 4: (98) Shaun Phillips
                Round 5: (133) Dave Ball
                Round 5: (154) Michael Turner
                Round 6: (169) Ryan Krause
                Round 7: (204) Ryan Bigham
                Round 7: (209) Shane Olivea
                Round 7: (254) Carlos Joseph

                The players bolded and itlalicized are the ones who are both starters and pro bowlers, which is 3 of them. The ones that are just bolded are currently starters or impact players in San Diego, which including the pro bowlers, is 7 of them.

                That's a very impressive draft right there, and I'm not ashamed to brag about it. Not even considering the trade that netted Merriman and Oben as well, when you can draft 3 pro-bowlers in one year, six starters, and one impact backup with MT...its hard to do much better.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JK17 View Post
                  Okay well this was kinda a big year for SD...I'll do there's after the Eli trade, since that is what there draft class really was...

                  Round 1: (4) Philip Rivers
                  Round 2: (35) Igor Olshanksy
                  Round 3: (65) Nate Kaeding
                  Round 3: (66) Nick Hardwick
                  Round 4: (98) Shaun Phillips
                  Round 5: (133) Dave Ball
                  Round 5: (154) Michael Turner
                  Round 6: (169) Ryan Krause
                  Round 7: (204) Ryan Bigham
                  Round 7: (209) Shane Olivea
                  Round 7: (254) Carlos Joseph

                  The players bolded and itlalicized are the ones who are both starters and pro bowlers, which is 3 of them. The ones that are just bolded are currently starters or impact players in San Diego, which including the pro bowlers, is 7 of them.

                  That's a very impressive draft right there, and I'm not ashamed to brag about it. Not even considering the trade that netted Merriman and Oben as well, when you can draft 3 pro-bowlers in one year, six starters, and one impact backup with MT...its hard to do much better.
                  chargers did very well for themselves... where as the niners... well...

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                  • #10
                    1 25 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas
                    3 70 Joey Thomas CB Montana State
                    3 72 Donnell Washington DT Clemson
                    3 87 B.J. Sander P Ohio State
                    6 179 Corey Williams DT Arkansas State
                    7 251 Scott Wells C Tennessee

                    enough said, it was horrible, we only have Wells and Williams on the team lol

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                    • #11
                      Buccaneers 2004 Draft

                      Round 1: Michael Clayton
                      Round 3: Marquis Cooper
                      Round 4: Will Allen
                      Round 5: Jeb Terry
                      Round 6: Nate Lawrie
                      Round 7: Mark Jones
                      Round 7: Casey Cramer
                      Round 7: Lenny Williams

                      The bolded players still are on the team and the unbolded players were busts or failures.

                      Now, for me to rate the players that are still on the team.

                      Round 1: Michael Clayton had an outstanding rookie year in the NFL with 80 catches, 1193 yards, and 7 touchdowns. However, since then, he has been injured and has been a bust. I still believe he has a chance to pan out to be a decent receiver but not much more.

                      Round 4: Will Allen was our starting safety in 2005-2006 but, except for a few plays, he was all flash and no substance. In this past draft, we drafted two safeties pretty early proving how well Allen has played in our system.

                      Round 5: Jeb Terry provides good depth at the guard positions and not much more.

                      Round 7: Probably the best pick in the draft for us, Mark Jones has been an outstanding punt returner for the Buccaneers by averaging over 10 yards per punt return in 2005. He is a great asset to our football team.


                      Overall, the Buccaneers got a potentially decent receiver, an average safety, offensive line depth, and a punt returner from this draft.

                      D

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                      • #12
                        Great great draft for the 49ers. Shane Olivea is a really good RT, and he's probably the 6th or 7th player drafted in 2004 by them. Wow.

                        For the Browns:

                        RD1-Kellen Winslow-TE
                        RD2-Sean Jones-S
                        RD4-Luke McCown-QB
                        RD5-Amon Gordon-DT
                        RD6-Kirk Chambers-OT
                        RD7-Adimchinobe Echemandu-RB

                        Butch Davis was a crappy drafter, but he managed to draft two guys who had better seasons than some pro bowlers last year, but were left off simply b/c the Browns suck.

                        Winslow will be considered the best TE in the NFL a couple years from now even though he missed his first 2 years; he's already among the top 3 in the league with Gonzalez and Gates only being better. Sean Jones had his breakout year in 06 and is one of the best safeties in the AFC already. Two great great players there. McCown was a crappy pick, he's now in Tampa preparing to be cut. Gordon is in Denver doing the same, as is Echemandu in Oakland, and Chambers in New York (AFC) I think. Great first day, really really lame second day for us.

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                        • #13
                          Patriots
                          1. Vince Wilfork DT Miami
                          1. Ben Watson TE UGA
                          2. Marquise Hill DE LSU
                          3. Guss Scott SS Florida
                          4. Dexter Reid FS.SS UNC
                          4. Cedric Cobbs RB Arkansas
                          5. PK Sam WR FSU
                          7. Christian Morton CB Illinois


                          -Wilfork was considered by many a top 10 talent, but didn't have a great final season at the U. Is EXTREMELY talented. This year he established himself as a great player on a consistent basis last year, commanding a double team on almost every play.
                          -Watson is a physical specimen who ran a 4.44 40 at 6-3 255 coming out of UGA. He has shown flashes, but he hasn't been a dominant force on a consistent basis yet. Didn't break out as expected in 2006, may not have as many chances in '07 with tons of new targets for Brady.
                          -Marquise Hill never did much on the field for the Pats, he passed away a few weeks ago. RIP.
                          -Guss Scott got opporitunities to play early due to injuries and did OK for a young player thrown into the fire. Was a great conributor on special teams as well. He is now with the Jets.
                          -Dexter Reid had a similar situation as Scott, he played as a rookie and suprised a lot of people. Was solid on special teams too. I really liked Reid, I was dissappointed to see him go. He is now a Colt.
                          -Cedric Cobbs was a RB with loads of potential who kept getting hurt in college and then the pros. He never got to flash his potential wit the Pats. He was with the Broncos, not sure where he is now.
                          -PK Sam was regarded as a sleeper and at one point some saw him as a 2nd rounder, but he did nothing, didn't even make it out of pre-season in a Pats uniform I believe. Now with Miami.
                          -Chrisitian Morton contributed on special teams as a returner and cover man, but he didn't fit into the Pats plans. Never saw the field as a DB, even when we were depleted in the secondary. Now with the Panthers.

                          We got 2 solid 1st rounders in Wilfork and Watson, but other than that this was one of our least productive drafts over the last 5 seasons. Watson and Wilfork are the only 2 players on the team. I give it a C-, and it would've been a lot lower if not for Watson and Wilfork.
                          Last edited by Don Vito; 06-17-2007, 07:31 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Indianapolis Colts

                            Round 2 (#44)-Bob Sanders-SS
                            Round 3 (#68)-Ben Hartsock-TE
                            Round 3 (#69)-Gilbert Gardner-LB
                            Round 4 (#107)-Kendyll Pope-LB
                            Round 4 (#125)-Jason David-CB
                            Round 5 (#141)-Jake Scott-OG
                            Round 6 (#173)-Von Hutchins-CB
                            Round 6 (#191)-Jim Sorgi-QB
                            Round 7 (#229)-David Kimball-PK

                            UDFA: Ben Utecht-TE

                            Bob Sanders has been an electric member of the defense, one could say he is the defense. He is a presence on/off the field (I felt cool, in the right way, not the old-NFLDC way when I saw him at TC) and has even been able to get a clutch INT at certain intervals. Truly a star. One problem? Due to his minor frame and big hit ability, he tends to hurt himself when he hits someone which is often. Good pick by Polian and Co.

                            Ben Hartsock really wasn't a good pick at the time as Pollard and Clark were both in town. He caught about 4 or 5 passes with Indy for two seasons but did get a few clutch First Downs for Tennessee this year (though only got 6 catches). A wasted pick.

                            Gilbert Gardner had some spot starts and looked OK until he started last season. Absolutely dreadful and contributed to the league's worst-ranked run defense in the NFL. The Titans ALSO got him via waivers this offseason though hopefully (for their fans) he never starts for them.

                            Kendyll Pope looked to be a stud in future years but a series of positive drug tests effectively ended his NFL career.

                            Jason David had a good rookie season with a team-high 4 INTs (tied with Nick Harper---also of the Titans) but degressed in 2005. In 2006, his scrappy play on the field actually impressed me and impressed the Saints brass enough to give him a 4-year tender that the Colts didn't sign this season. A good #2 CB.

                            Jake Scott has been an OK pass blocker for the Colts and has improved in running situations. Still gets "happy feet" and jumps offsides from time to time but he is a dependable starter. Nothing good or bad. I expect him to be gone next season and Dylan Gandy to start.

                            The Colts really got the most they could out of Von Hutchins. He did what he was asked to do and I actually grew to like him. He's on Houston now and will probably remain a ST performer but he did have one memorable Pick 6.

                            Jim Sorgi was the catalyst for the Colts 2007 Super Bowl run.

                            David Kimball was supposed to be a potential kickoff specialist but never materialized and didn't last with NYG or OAK. Was in NFLE last season but hasn't done much since.

                            Ben Utecht was a good little steal in the UDFA signing period. I really like him, moreso than others, but he tends to drop the ball on contact often and has been hurt a few times. At one point was a potential Day One pick but due to a hernia, slid to the UD ranks.

                            DRAFT GRADE: C-
                            Is that a rash?



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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Green Bay Scat View Post
                              1 25 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas
                              3 70 Joey Thomas CB Montana State
                              3 72 Donnell Washington DT Clemson
                              3 87 B.J. Sander P Ohio State
                              6 179 Corey Williams DT Arkansas State
                              7 251 Scott Wells C Tennessee

                              enough said, it was horrible, we only have Wells and Williams on the team lol
                              Yikes thats a bad draft class. Ironically the two best players from that were picked in the 6th and 7th.

                              stephenson86

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