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    Couldn't find a thread on him so I will start ine. What does this game do to not only his Heisman chances but his draft status? He played like absolute **** the first 56 minutes, and in those final four he added more craziness to an insane college football season (against tech in Blacksburg nontheless). Honestly, I think this game helps him just because that was one of the most crazy, unexpected comebacks I have ever seen. I am a huge BC fan but not until now will I say he is my #1 QB and Heisman pick.

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    In my honest opion this game hurt his stock in my eyes, he was my #1 QB, but he looked unippressive, you cant only show up for 4 minutes and be considered an elite prospect, he finished 25-52 with 2 tds and 2 ints, and there should have been quite a few more int's, he stares down recievers, and does not throw the ball with enough zip on slants, outs, comebacks etc.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by vatech=accdomination View Post
      In my honest opion this game hurt his stock in my eyes, he was my #1 QB, but he looked unippressive, you cant only show up for 4 minutes and be considered an elite prospect, he finished 25-52 with 2 tds and 2 ints, and there should have been quite a few more int's, he stares down recievers, and does not throw the ball with enough zip on slants, outs, comebacks etc.
      The weather had a major play in the lack of zip

      I feel you can't look at the stats in this performance. Ryan showed tremendous leadership and poise under pressure at the end of the game. Thats the kind of thing NFL scouts will drool over

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      • #4
        i still have him as my number 1, the last drive he noticed they cheated over when he rolled out, so he waited for that 1 reciever to go back to basically the same spot, which is something you dont see many QB's do, but i mean up to about 6 minutes left SEAN GLENNON had as much total offesne as he did.

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        • #5
          I am still not drinking the kool-aid on Matt Ryan.

          Granted the rain didn't help early in the game but even once that cleared up he was missing a lot of his targets and just did not look very good. Sure he played great on those last two drives but up until then he was basically terrible.

          Bottom line for me is I still have Brohm as my #1 quarterback with Woodson and Ryan basically 2a and 2b.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scott Wright View Post
            I am still not drinking the kool-aid on Matt Ryan.

            Granted the rain didn't help early in the game but even once that cleared up he was missing a lot of his targets and just did not look very good. Sure he played great on those last two drives but up until then he was basically terrible.

            Bottom line for me is I still have Brohm as my #1 quarterback with Woodson and Ryan basically 2a and 2b.
            I can agree with that. I had Brohm, Ryan, Woodson as my top 3 since day one of the season.

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            • #7
              And just to clarify, it's not that I don't like Ryan because I do. I always say intangibles are the biggest thing I look for and Ryan has those in spades. Plus he certainly looks the part. I have seen at least three full games of his this year already though and something just seems to be missing for me...
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              • #8
                I didn't believe any of the hype coming into the game and for about 95% of it I was still unconvinced, but those last 2 drives bumped him up a notch, still wouldn't put him above Brohmn or Woodson but he is above Brennan in my books

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                • #9
                  It's not how you start, it's how you finish. All the great quarterbacks know how to get the job done when the game is hanging in the balance and that is exactly what Matt Ryan did. He put the team on his shoulders in that last 2 and half minutes, scrambling and hitting recievers downfield with pinpoint accuracy, a mediocre recieving corps, and very poor protection up front. He found a way to get it done. He will be a great Quarterback in the NFL, mark my words.
                  Last edited by thebow305; 10-26-2007, 01:01 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scott Wright View Post
                    And just to clarify, it's not that I don't like Ryan because I do. I always say intangibles are the biggest thing I look for and Ryan has those in spades. Plus he certainly looks the part. I have seen at least three full games of his this year already though and something just seems to be missing for me...
                    To me, the only flaw in Ryans game is his inability to think on the run for the most part. he had a few nice passes on the move to win tonight's game against VT but for the most part he's a QB who has to be set in the pocket to make plays

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by thebow305 View Post
                      It's not how you start, it's how you finish. All the great quarterbacks know how to get the job done when the game is hanging in the balance and that is exactly what Matt Ryan did. He put the team on his shoulders in that last 2 and half minutes, scrambling and hitting recievers downfield with pinpoint accuracy, a mediocre recieving corps, and very poor protection up front. He found a way to get it done. He will be a great Quarterback in the NFL, mark my words.
                      well a great quarterback wouldn't have put his team in a position to have to try the onside.

                      It was a great defensive effort by both teams but that last INT in crunch time was a head scratcher.

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                      • #12
                        What does Matt Ryan do/have that Charlie Whitehurst doesn't?

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                        • #13
                          Ryan has thrown some poor passes but Whitehurst made some truly horrible decisions at Clemson. Whitehurst had all the tools coming out but and had brilliant freshman and sophmore seasons, but as a junior he was 7-17 in TDs-ints and was 11-10 as a senior.

                          Whitehurst was a good college QB but was drastically inconsistent and never flat out led Clemson to a big time, career defining season.
                          Last edited by Don Vito; 10-26-2007, 02:47 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Not sure I'd give Ryan too much credit over the last drive. Even I'd find an open reciever if I was given 15 seconds to throw.
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                            • #15
                              His success late was mostly due to a very tired VT defense. They couldn't get any pressure on him late because the D-Lineman were just gassed, even in between plays you could see corners and LB's with hands on their hips just walking to get into position. Even late in the game he made alot of the mistakes he made throughout. The major thing that jumped out to me all game was his unwillingness to stand in the pocket and make a throw, everytime he got pressure he would always try to run and throw on the run, or he'd be throwing off his back foot to avoid the hit. The wet ball probably had alot to do with it, but I was a little dissapointed in his accuracy, he could hit guys, but he threw the ball in alot of bad positions to his WR's (such as on the wrong shoulder and things like that). I think it doesn't hurt his Heisman run, but it hurts his draft stock.

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