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  • Could Chris Long play ILB in 3-4?

    Maybe a dumb question, but most MLBs are too small to play in the 3-4.

    6'4" 260 would work. OF course there's a learning curve but if you can take on blockers and have intelligence, it would be a good start. He's listed as 280, but I don't know if that's exaggerated or even if so, it might be easy to lose 20 pounds.
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    OLB in a 3-4, perhaps. ILB in a 3-4, I highly doubt it.

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    • #3
      Well, he possibly could, so it's not a totally ridiculous suggestion... but why take the risk when he could be an elite 4-3 DE or even a 3-4 OLB?
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      • #4
        He is a devastating pass rusher and putting him at 3-4 ILB would take that aspect of the game almost entirely away. He is a 4-3 LE to me and that is really it, he has good size, strength, and athleticism and is also strong against the run and can get at the QB better than almost everyone in the country.

        I do not see him anywhere in the 3-4, whether it be DE, OLB, or ILB. He is a great pass rusher who can stop the run, but putting him at 3-4 DE would take away from his major strength-getting to the QB. He can play the run well but I do not see him as a 3-4 ILB, plus he wouldn't be able to get to the QB too much. We don't even know if he can play man or zone coverage consistently either. His best shot in the 3-4 imo is at OLB, but still I like him best at 4-3 LE. He is a balanced DE who can do it all, no matter where you put him in a 3-4 in the NFL you will take away from one of his strengths.

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        • #5
          I'd actually quite like Long at RDE. He's not got elite speed, but as you say, he still excels at getting to the QB. Add to that his strength against the run, and you've got a two-way RDE which is fairly rare in the NFL.

          Having a well-balanced front four is essential, and Long would be the ultimate balanced RDE. You could even shift him over to LDE on passing downs to bring in a pure pass rusher at RDE.
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          • #6
            didn't he play DE in virginia's 3-4?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Don Vito View Post
              He is a devastating pass rusher and putting him at 3-4 ILB would take that aspect of the game almost entirely away. He is a 4-3 LE to me and that is really it, he has good size, strength, and athleticism and is also strong against the run and can get at the QB better than almost everyone in the country.

              I do not see him anywhere in the 3-4, whether it be DE, OLB, or ILB. He is a great pass rusher who can stop the run, but putting him at 3-4 DE would take away from his major strength-getting to the QB. He can play the run well but I do not see him as a 3-4 ILB, plus he wouldn't be able to get to the QB too much. We don't even know if he can play man or zone coverage consistently either. His best shot in the 3-4 imo is at OLB, but still I like him best at 4-3 LE. He is a balanced DE who can do it all, no matter where you put him in a 3-4 in the NFL you will take away from one of his strengths.
              This hit hte nail on the head, i agree with this.. i think he is to small to be a 3-4 DE in the pro's. Some places have him listed at 260... thats 4-3 end all the way brah

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Don Vito View Post
                He is a devastating pass rusher and putting him at 3-4 ILB would take that aspect of the game almost entirely away. He is a 4-3 LE to me and that is really it, he has good size, strength, and athleticism and is also strong against the run and can get at the QB better than almost everyone in the country.

                I do not see him anywhere in the 3-4, whether it be DE, OLB, or ILB. He is a great pass rusher who can stop the run, but putting him at 3-4 DE would take away from his major strength-getting to the QB. He can play the run well but I do not see him as a 3-4 ILB, plus he wouldn't be able to get to the QB too much. We don't even know if he can play man or zone coverage consistently either. His best shot in the 3-4 imo is at OLB, but still I like him best at 4-3 LE. He is a balanced DE who can do it all, no matter where you put him in a 3-4 in the NFL you will take away from one of his strengths.
                Very good answer.

                I wonder who the Pats will get, if anyone, to play ILB next year. Wish they drafted Harris last year.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Don Vito View Post
                  He is a devastating pass rusher and putting him at 3-4 ILB would take that aspect of the game almost entirely away. He is a 4-3 LE to me and that is really it, he has good size, strength, and athleticism and is also strong against the run and can get at the QB better than almost everyone in the country.

                  I do not see him anywhere in the 3-4, whether it be DE, OLB, or ILB. He is a great pass rusher who can stop the run, but putting him at 3-4 DE would take away from his major strength-getting to the QB. He can play the run well but I do not see him as a 3-4 ILB, plus he wouldn't be able to get to the QB too much. We don't even know if he can play man or zone coverage consistently either. His best shot in the 3-4 imo is at OLB, but still I like him best at 4-3 LE. He is a balanced DE who can do it all, no matter where you put him in a 3-4 in the NFL you will take away from one of his strengths.
                  First, there are no dumb questions... unless they involve crazy trade scenarios that only happen in madden.

                  There have been players like Bruschi (i think) and Vrabel who have had success in moving from end in college to ILB in the 3-4. But Don Vito makes a great point that this takes away from what he does best.

                  Plus, in the 3-4 most ilb are required to be able to cover a TE or a back in the flat. I don't think he has the speed to beat a back to the edge.

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                  • #10
                    Yea our 4 starting LBs played DE in college (Vrabel, Colvin, Bruschi, and Adailus) but I don't really see Long fitting into the DE/OLB/ILB mold. He is too good with his hand down to risk it.

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                    • #11
                      The Cowboys tried to move Randy White, who was a great DE in college, to mlb and he bombed, when they moved him to a tackle position he went on to be one of the great tackles in NFL history. Dont be trying to mess with guys position too much. And yes i do see a little bit of Randy White in Chris Long.

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                      • #12
                        For some reason everybody has this idea that if you can rush the QB and you play DE, you can play OLB in a 3-4. He's 6'4 285 and plays DE/DT. He can take on double teams and rush the passer. No way he would ever play ILB in a 3-4!!! The only thing he'd be in a 3-4 is a DE which is what he is now. 285 pound players don't play Linebacker.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TACKLE View Post
                          For some reason everybody has this idea that if you can rush the QB and you play DE, you can play OLB in a 3-4. He's 6'4 285 and plays DE/DT. He can take on double teams and rush the passer. No way he would ever play ILB in a 3-4!!! The only thing he'd be in a 3-4 is a DE which is what he is now. 285 pound players don't play Linebacker.
                          I think it was just a topic of converation, nobody is moving Chris Long to linebacker.

                          On a somewhat unrelated note i was reading his younger brother might be a better athlete but he is going to play baseball next year at FSU, at 6-7 and 280. Howie seems to know what he's doing there down on the farm.

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                          • #14
                            3 guys that play DL that might be solid ILB/OLB's in the 3-4..

                            Titus Brown, DE, Mississippi State ~ Reminds me a lot of Kirkland

                            Eric Foster, DT, Rutgers ~ his motor and explosion, along with 2 years beating OL on the line.. he could make a solid buck if he still has his MLB skills from the 6 years prior to him being a DT.

                            Jason Jones, DE/DT, Eastern Michigan ~ I don't think he's too tall (Vrabel?) at 6'5 but he's nearly impossible to stop as a NT in a 4-3 at 6'5 272lbs. Just imagining OL not being used to his strength at the second level makes me wonder.

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                            • #15
                              u dont wanna screw around with a talent like this one...he should remain on the D-Line where teams could use his versatility to create matchup problems. future perennial pro bowler.

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