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    Is it just me or is Andre Woodson getting the short end of the stick? All year he was a top 3 QB prospect and he did really well with an average team in a really tough conference. Yes by all accounts he had a bad SR bowl and hasn't done much since then but does one bad week with strange coaches and players warrant him slipping from a possible 1st round franchise QB to the 2nd or 3rd round or lower? Most of the game tape I have has him making NFL style throws against top level competition. This isn't Ken Dorsey's Miami roster. It's Kentucky and he got them to win with his arm, legs and leadership. I think this guy is going to make some GM's kick themselves for passing on him simply because he had one bad week in Mobile.

  • #2
    I'm a huge fan of Woodson's, but the problem is, mechanical concerns are always a big indicator of not living up to potential. He needs to go to a situation where there is time for him to sit back and learn, and perhaps retool those mechanics. It could be a 2 or 3 year process, and most teams aren't willing to make said move that early.

    He's probably a 3rd/4th prospect as of now, which sounds awful, but the whole of the QB class isn't that great. Thus, he is still probably a top 5 or 6 QB right now, so he hasn't dramatically fallen off in terms of pure QB rankings.

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    • #3
      ive always been a fan of woodson and out of the games i saw from some of the top QBs - ryan, brohm, henne, woodson, brennan - i liked woodson the most.

      i actually called my house to tell my brother to turn on the kentucky - LSU game when it started shaping up to be a good one and i told him to watch woodson because i thought hed be something special one day....

      and i still prefer him over any of those other QBs i listed. brohm is #2 but id hardly even touch the other guys given a choice.....

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      • #4
        I agree with you. This guy is getting way over-analyzed. The dude took flippin' Kentucky: Kentucky! to their best years in decades, and now he just can't cut the mustard at 6'5" 230. I do have an issue with him stinking up the Senior Bowl, but at least he had the guts to show up. Seriously though when has a throwing motion been that big a deal? Cunningham had a slow windup, Kosar a horrible throwing motion. Rivers has a bad technique. And yet they won games. If your good your good, and you work around your weaknesses and maximize your strengths.

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        • #5
          People are overreacting because Byron Leftwich busted

          The problem is, Woodson's delivery isn't as slow as Leftwich.

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          • #6
            Not sure where people are getting an "average" supporting cast. Sure, it wasn't USC's ultra-talented recruits in there, but the Wildcats had four other offensive players at the NFL Combine this year in TE Jacob Tamme, WR's Keenan Burton and Steve Johnson, and RB Rafael Little. He was a great college QB, don't get me wrong, but he did have a strong supporting cast on offense, he wasn't working alone.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ThePudge View Post
              Not sure where people are getting an "average" supporting cast. Sure, it wasn't USC's ultra-talented recruits in there, but the Wildcats had four other offensive players at the NFL Combine this year in TE Jacob Tamme, WR's Keenan Burton and Steve Johnson, and RB Rafael Little. He was a great college QB, don't get me wrong, but he did have a strong supporting cast on offense, he wasn't working alone.
              i dont necessarily agree. those guys you listed are probably mid-round draft picks at best....

              sure there are worse teams out there but those guys are hardly studs by any stretch of the imagination. i would call them average at best.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                i dont necessarily agree. those guys you listed are probably mid-round draft picks at best....

                sure there are worse teams out there but those guys are hardly studs by any stretch of the imagination. i would call them average at best.
                Average at best... hm...

                Boston College's supporting cast was average at best, with perhaps one draftable prospect. Kentucky's was above average with four/five likely draft picks at skill positions. Not every team is USC or Ohio State, people have to understand that.

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                • #9
                  Ok, first as a guy that has defended Woodson ever since the Senior Bowl I have to say he had one of the best supporting casts in the nation and that is true. Second I've posted many threads on him and defending him. He has mechanical problems but that's why there are such as COACHES! He'll be a franchise QB with two things only:
                  1. A good O-Line
                  2. Good coaching

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                  • #10
                    Put ryan and BC in kentucky's schedule and they dont even sniff a BCS game which they got close to in the weak ACC.

                    Ryan and his boys got to smoke a weak division as well as teams like notre dame, wake, army, umass, and bowling green. He got walloped for 56 minutes vs. VT the first time around and then lost to them pretty badly the 2nd time around. He even lost to an FSU squad that was in a down year and then lost to maryland to boot.

                    woodson and kentucky had a few weak games, as all teams do, at the start but then went on to beat louisville, the eventual national champion LSU, and they held their own vs. the defending champs in florida and took a strong tennessee team into 4 OTs. then they went on to beat the FSU team that ryan lost to.

                    ryan may have had the weaker team but they had the weaker competition too. I strongly believe Woodson had an extremely weak team compared to the average SEC team. and he held his own way better in that conference than ryan could have if you switched them around. ryans 19 picks in the ACC would translate to 25 or better against the defenses of that SEC....

                    i dont want to turn this into a "why i dont like matt ryan as a pro prospect" thread so ill stop now.....

                    i like woodson

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                    • #11
                      If Woodson could succeed he has to be in the same situation as Rodgers was. That being said, he better hope the Seahawks draft him.

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                      • #12
                        I was probably leading the Woodson bus starting towards middle of his 06' season, but through all of his workouts he hasn't done anything that makes him special with the right coaching and situation i still feel he can be a starter in the NFL but he needs a lot of work

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                        • #13
                          Woodson

                          Originally posted by ThePudge View Post
                          Not sure where people are getting an "average" supporting cast. Sure, it wasn't USC's ultra-talented recruits in there, but the Wildcats had four other offensive players at the NFL Combine this year in TE Jacob Tamme, WR's Keenan Burton and Steve Johnson, and RB Rafael Little. He was a great college QB, don't get me wrong, but he did have a strong supporting cast on offense, he wasn't working alone.
                          I am with you, he had a solid supporting cast and all of the skill players will get drafted. He has plenty of starts in the SEC which should be a solid predictor, but he stunk it up when asked to make NFL decisions in Mobile. He will make a good backup at best.

                          Maybe a nickel QB?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                            I was probably leading the Woodson bus starting towards middle of his 06' season, but through all of his workouts he hasn't done anything that makes him special with the right coaching and situation i still feel he can be a starter in the NFL but he needs a lot of work
                            Coaching will be the most important factor for his success. This is a good assessment about him.
                            His football IQ is pretty bad for a quarterback and a lot of that was due to bad coaching in high school and in his first few years in Kentucky. The main thing that bothers me about him is that he is not decisive enough, this was shown when he took a lot of sacks and did not get rid of the ball. This is related to football IQ because he didn't know what to do in certain situations. The release can be fixed. I love his work ethic, charisma and leadership, but he will need a lot of work.

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                            • #15
                              I used to think Woodson reminded me of Big Ben. Now i get an Aaron Brooks feel, not sure why. I dont think he's as fast, but he does make some plays that made you say "Huh?". Like that one play where he lost like 10 yards in the senior bowl



                              Sig thanks to Bonekrusher

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