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  • William Moore vs. Taylor Mays

    I am very partial to Mays because of watching Sean Taylor play. Not saying that Mays will ever be anything near Sean but his write up sounds like the closest thing I've heard to Sean's. What would the benefit of taking Mays over Moore be and vise versa. Who will be the better NFL player in you thoughts?

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    Right now, I have to say Moore. And right now, I'm not even sure Mays would be number 2 (or number 3) on my list.

    Yes, he's a great talent. For a man his size, he's shown good ability in coverage in USC's Tampa 2. Yes, if his 40-time is anywhere close to what we heard coming out of that spring camp, he may well shoot up boards. But for a guy his size I don't see him being nearly as physical as I would expect. He isn't even close to what Sean Taylor was at Miami. Right now, he's more Josh Barrett to me right now. Great potential, but I need to see a lot more.

    William Moore might not even wind up as the top safety, but he's the odds on favorite right now. He made a ton of plays last year, showed great range, has good size and more importantly used that great size to deliver some impressive hits. He looks like the most well balanced safety in the country right now. Then again, he didn't get off to a fantastic start against Illinois.

    Guys like Emanuel Cook and Nic Harris are bound to work themselves into this conversation, not to mention guys like Courtney Green, Michael Hamlin, and Patrick Chung.

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    • #3
      William Moore is a play-maker, pure and simple. He does a great job of creating turnovers and has a nose for the ball. His 8 interceptions tied him for the best in the NCAA last year.

      Last year, Mays recorded 65 tackles[as opposed to Moore's 117] (look who is on the feild at the same time though). He is a great team leader and I think his best is yet to come.

      As far as who will make the better NFL player, I think it's too early to tell.




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      • #4
        Williams Moore, as everyone has said is the better all around safety and is a play-maker, he could probably play FS or SS depending on the defense, while I believe that Taylor Mays is going to be strictly kept at SS because I don't see him putting up LaRon Landry-esk 40 time ie big strong safety who can also burn
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        • #5
          Originally posted by rockio42 View Post
          Williams Moore, as everyone has said is the better all around safety and is a play-maker, he could probably play FS or SS depending on the defense, while I believe that Taylor Mays is going to be strictly kept at SS because I don't see him putting up LaRon Landry-esk 40 time ie big strong safety who can also burn
          Mays playing SS in the NFL would be better for us. Landry is better suited for FS.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by toddmlazarchick View Post
            Mays playing SS in the NFL would be better for us. Landry is better suited for FS.
            I wasn't saying he wasn't I was just saying overall what I believe is the difference between Mays and Moore
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            • #7
              Well I've watched both play a ton and I'll say that when it comes to pure talent, it is no contest. Taylor Mays has it by a decent margin. But when it comes to the better safety, as of now, (also no contest) William Moore is leading by a solid margin. Both have excellent size and strength. Mays leads (if reports are true) by a good deal in the speed department, Mays a 4.3ish and Moore a 4.5ish. Moore has his game together much better than Mays though, and as said before is a balanced all around safety, and could potentially play either Safety spot in the NFL.

              I have to disagree with Rockio about Mays not playing FS though. He was the center fielder-type safety last week, and many other weeks, for USC. And IF that reported 40 time is anywhere close to true, he could play FS in the NFL. He has the size to be a SS, and if the speed and some other athletic traits hold true, he can play FS.

              One thing I've noticed with Mays, in run support, he takes poor angles on occasion, and on some occasions, RBs (who are in some cases slower than him) will beat him to the outside and will be able to cut upfield, sometimes for big gains. Moore takes better angles and I have rarely seen him get beat in those situations. Moore is also better in pass coverage. Like it was said before, he had 8 INTs last year, and if I remember correctly, had 20+ batted balls. If you go off of production, Moore has better numbers compared to Mays, with both having similar amounts of PT. Mays though does have a better suppoting cast with better competition, so there is at least some of the cause for Mays' lesser numbers, but Moore just has performed too well for them to be considered equal right now.

              Moore is the better prospect right now, and I expect, will be the better one come draft time. Mays though, with all of his physical gifts, has a ton of upside, and even though Moore has loads of upside, Mays has more. Moore has a higher floor though and has less of a risk of not panning out in the NFL. Right now, if you can't tell, I like Moore, and for me, the jury is out on Mays, but he has a lot in his favor.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by toddmlazarchick View Post
                Mays playing SS in the NFL would be better for us. Landry is better suited for FS.
                Just because you have invested two first round picks in safeties in the past doesn't mean you should do it now.
                Too many other holes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bruce Banner View Post
                  Just because you have invested two first round picks in safeties in the past doesn't mean you should do it now.
                  Too many other holes.
                  OPverall though, The Skins do need help on defense, he's just exploring some of the prospects, gaining knowledge at all types of positions. His questions are justified.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by eaglesalltheway View Post
                    OPverall though, The Skins do need help on defense, he's just exploring some of the prospects, gaining knowledge at all types of positions. His questions are justified.
                    Ah, I thought he was saying they need to draft one of these guys.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eaglesalltheway View Post
                      OPverall though, The Skins do need help on defense, he's just exploring some of the prospects, gaining knowledge at all types of positions. His questions are justified.
                      Yeah I think our biggest needs right now are S, CB, LB, DT, OL and even tho I hate to admit it probably QB. I hope we dont take a safety because I think Kareem Moore who we drafted this past year should get a shot. He has showed he could be an above average safety. But if it comes draft time and we are staring at Moore and Mays at our pick and they have the best value I have no problem pulling the trigger again.

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                      • #12
                        I'm just saying if you already have an up and coming star potential safety and an average to above average safety on the other side (who is relatively young), a first day pick let alone a first rounder is a major luxury pick.

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                        • #13
                          Moore kinda disappointed me against Illinois and Cook from South Carolina has really flashed


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DeathbyStat View Post
                            Moore kinda disappointed me against Illinois and Cook from South Carolina has really flashed
                            The sad thing is, Moore disapointed me too, but when you look at it subjectively, he didn't have a poor game.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bruce Banner View Post
                              I'm just saying if you already have an up and coming star potential safety and an average to above average safety on the other side (who is relatively young), a first day pick let alone a first rounder is a major luxury pick.
                              It is a luxury, but people were saying the same thing when they were anticipating Landry going to the Redskins. Its a sad fact, that anything can happen in the NFL, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Redskins would pick one fo the top safeties in the draft this year if it were of good value.
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