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    Seeing how everybody seems to be down on this years RB crew due to poor 40 times. I just thought I would like to point out that this year's DT class performed very well in the 40:

    Jarron Gilbert - 6-5, 288lbs, 4.87, 35.5 inch vert.
    Mitch King - 6-1, 280lbs, 4.89
    Ziggy Hood - 6-3, 300lbs, 4.91, 34 reps.
    Dorell Scott - 6-3, 312, 4.92
    Roy Miller - 6-1, 310lbs, 4.97, 36 reps.
    Ra'Shon Harris - 6-4, 298lbs, 4.99
    Corvey Irvin - 6-3, 301lbs, 4.99
    Myron Pryor - 6-0, 319, 5.01
    Sen'Derrick Marks - 6-2, 306lbs, 5.01
    Chris Baker - 6-2, 326 lbs, 5.02 40, 35.5 inch vert.
    Demonte Bolden - 6-3, 285lbs, 5.03
    Alex Magee - 6-3, 298lbs, 5.05, 30 reps.
    Khalif Mitchell - 6-5, 318lbs, 5.09, 30 reps.
    Fili Moala - 6-4, 305, 5.09
    Sammie Lee Hill - 6-4, 329lbs, 5.11
    BJ Raji - 6-1, 337lbs, 5.13, 33 reps.
    Terrance Knighton - 6-3, 321lbs, 5.18


    There's been alot of talk throughout the year about how weak this year is for DTs but this might be an indication that there are quite a sleeper prospects at DT this year.

    I think Sammie Lee Hill, Terrance Knighton, Khalif Mitchell and Jarron Gilbert have all flown under the radar and could all make an impact in the NFL. While productive major program players who were thought of as later round prospects (Roy Miller, Myron Pryor, Alex Magee)could sneak into the mid rounds after putting up nice measurables.

    Maybe this DT class isn't as shallow as originally thought.
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    I agree that many of the DT numbers were impressive. I do have a question regarding their 40 times however. I could be wrong but doesn't it seem that most of the DT's 40 times "officially" were very similar to their "unofficial" times? Why so many changes to the WR's, RB's and DE's times when it seemed there wasn't much change made to the OL and DT's times? Or am I mistaken?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by phlysac View Post
      I agree that many of the DT numbers were impressive. I do have a question regarding their 40 times however. I could be wrong but doesn't it seem that most of the DT's 40 times "officially" were very similar to their "unofficial" times? Why so many changes to the WR's, RB's and DE's times when it seemed there wasn't much change made to the OL and DT's times? Or am I mistaken?
      Officially is by the electronic timer so it really doesn't matter what the unofficial time was.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Iamcanadian View Post
        Officially is by the electronic timer so it really doesn't matter what the unofficial time was.
        I understand, but that doesn't answer my question as to why there was such a discrepency in the WRs, RB,s and DE's times but not in the OL's and DTs etc. To be overdramatic it has basically seemed like whoops all of the RBs just got .8 slower but nope the DTs times were all correct the 1st time.

        Or am I just imagining it?

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        • #5
          maybe b/c its harder to time DHB running down the track than BJ Raji???

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          • #6
            A lot of people have suggested that NFL Network shaves time off the actual forties so people will get excited and tune in. And a fast DT just isn't as interesting as a WR breaking the speed record of the decade.

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            • #7
              I think some team is going to get a steal with DT Roy Miller.
              Roy Miller - 6-1, 310lbs, 4.97, 36 reps. He is strong as a Bull. I think he will go between rounds 3-5.

              I really like Ziggy Hood too.

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              • #8
                I understand, but that doesn't answer my question as to why there was such a discrepency in the WRs, RB,s and DE's times but not in the OL's and DTs etc. To be overdramatic it has basically seemed like whoops all of the RBs just got .8 slower but nope the DTs times were all correct the 1st time.
                It is easier to time something the slower it is moving would be my explanation. If someone is covering more metres per second it is harder to get a precise timing on when he hits a certain point, creating a greater margin for error.

                The DT position is looking a bit better after the combine, but I still think it is a weak position, these guys aren't running 40 yards, the bench numbers are nice though and some good explosive athletes, should be interesting to see how they fall, I think the majority are better prospects than their grades are showing right now, DT is very much the position where I think you are going to find a couple of pro bowlers in the later rounds. Doesn't help in comparison that last year had some very good prospects, which has made this one look weaker than it is.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Texas Homer View Post
                  I think some team is going to get a steal with DT Roy Miller.
                  Roy Miller - 6-1, 310lbs, 4.97, 36 reps. He is strong as a Bull. I think he will go between rounds 3-5.

                  I really like Ziggy Hood too.
                  I really really like Roy Miller, and would love the Eagles to get him in htat range, I have thought he is s sleeper for quite some time now, and he has good size, and could be the 4th DT we need. He would be a great fit as he can get penetration, but also has the strength to hold up in the run game.
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                  • #10
                    Yep

                    Roy Miller stood out for me in the Longhorn games I watched this season. My only question is if he is strong enough at the point of attack to handle NFL OG's and C's. He certainly looks the part tho, and I'd love to see the Raiders take a flyer on him in rds 3 or 4.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Komp View Post
                      Roy Miller stood out for me in the Longhorn games I watched this season. My only question is if he is strong enough at the point of attack to handle NFL OG's and C's. He certainly looks the part tho, and I'd love to see the Raiders take a flyer on him in rds 3 or 4.
                      His bench will certainly help his cause to fight that evluation, but I think with good strength training, proper technique work, and good work ethic he could easily be able to work on that. He is a quick penetrator at DT and for some reason I think of Jay Ratliff. They are different bodies, with Miller weighing about 15 pounds more and being 2 or 3 inches shorter, but Ratliff, even though he played NT in the 3-4 for Dallas, was known primarily as a one-gap penetrator until this season, where he was able to hold up better at the POA. I think Roy Miller could be like Ratliff is for the Cowboys, though I think both are best suited for either DT in a 4-3 or DE in the 3-4, not nose in the 3-4.
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                      • #12
                        Does anyone know how Sen'Derrick Marks did in drills...I can see his measurements and everything but I didn't catch him in the drills and I know he is a beast after watching him in 10/12 games this year but how did Ziggy look in drills...them seem to not show the same guys every time...
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                        • #13
                          There is no point in putting up DT 40 time, I want to see the DT's 10 and 20 yard time. These guys actually play with their hand on the ground so those first 3-4 yards we want to see how explosive they are coming out of their stance for the 40

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                          • #14
                            Dorrell Scott running a sub-5 40 at 312 lbs. was impressive to me. I would like him as part of the Colts NT rotation, how late do people see him going in the draft? Anyone catch any Clemson games this year?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Texas Homer View Post
                              I think some team is going to get a steal with DT Roy Miller.
                              Roy Miller - 6-1, 310lbs, 4.97, 36 reps. He is strong as a Bull. I think he will go between rounds 3-5.

                              I really like Ziggy Hood too.
                              Yes, Roy Miller is a 10-year pro to me. Very sturdy guy.

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