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  • NFL.com Pat Kirwan's first mock... Stafford goes #8?

    I thought this was a really interesting take on a post combine mock draft.

    Kirwan's Mock's are notoriously inaccurate, but I think this shows that Stafford is not the slam dunk #1 pick... 3 WR's in the top 10 looks interesting and I think reflects the talent of this WR class.

    Also, NO BEANIE WELLS in the first round?

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=...s&confirm=true

    With that in mind, here's my first mock draft:


    Team Pick Analysis

    1. Detroit Lions
    Jason Smith
    OT, Baylor Right now, it would appear there is a bit of doubt about Matthew Stafford being worthy of the top pick in the draft. An underclassman under 6-foot-3 who ran close to 4.9 in the 40-yard dash on a number of watches has a lot to prove. Jason Smith had a fine workout, passed the eyeball test and can be plugged into the lineup for the next 10 years.




    Team Pick Analysis

    2. St. Louis Rams
    Eugene Monroe
    OT, Virginia The Rams could get serious about Michael Crabtree if the medical news about his foot is positive, but right now Monroe is a safe pick, and it transitions with the end of Orlando Pace's career. If Pace plays in 2009, Monroe can start at guard just like Jonathan Ogden did during his rookie season in Baltimore.




    Team Pick Analysis

    3. Kansas City Chiefs
    Aaron Curry
    LB, Wake Forest The Chiefs are going to build a 3-4 defense and Curry gives them a critical piece at outside linebacker. If Stafford drops to them, they will think long and hard about him because the jury is still out on Tyler Thigpen.




    Team Pick Analysis

    4. Seattle Seahawks
    Michael Crabtree
    WR, Texas Tech Only the foot injury would allow Crabtree to fall to the No. 4 spot, but his 231 receptions in just two seasons in college should be enough for the Seahawks to draft him. He's just what the doctor ordered for this offense.




    Team Pick Analysis

    5. Cleveland Browns
    Malcolm Jenkins
    CB, Ohio State The Browns have a lot of needs, and cornerback is one of them. An outside linebacker who can rush the passer is priority No. 1, but with Curry gone, local Ohio State product Malcolm Jenkins is perfect. Keep in mind that new coach Eric Mangini took Darrelle Revis in the first round when he was with the Jets.




    Team Pick Analysis

    6. Cincinnati Bengals
    Brian Orakpo
    DE/LB, Texas The Bengals have lots of needs, and they tend to ignore defense early in drafts. A wide receiver would work here, and if Crabtree slid they might do it. But they need help on defense. Orakpo is versatile and helps with a pass rush that has to improve.




    Team Pick Analysis

    7. Oakland Raiders
    Jeremy Maclin
    WR, Missouri As the Raiders release high-priced veterans, they need playmakers. I could see an offensive or defensive tackle at this spot, but Al Davis loves speed, and Maclin has a lot of it. He led the nation with over 200 all-purpose yards per game, and he could team up with Johnnie Lee Higgins to make a dangerous tandem.




    Team Pick Analysis

    8. Jacksonville Jaguars
    Matthew Stafford
    QB, Georgia The Jaguars were probably thinking they had a shot at Mark Sanchez, but it's possible Stafford slides to the No. 8 spot. If the quarterbacks are gone, then Jacksonville could take a left tackle like Andre Smith or Michael Oher. Stafford would not have to take the field for a year or two while David Garrard runs the offense, which would be ideal for the Georgia star, who would become a fan favorite in a city right on the Georgia border.




    Team Pick Analysis

    9. Green Bay Packers
    Brian Cushing
    LB, USC The Packers are switching to a 3-4 defense, and they have to be thinking about an outside linebacker opposite Aaron Kampman. Cushing has played OLB, ILB, safety, defensive end and is just an all-around solid football player. At the combine, he measured in at 6-foot-3, 243 pounds, put up the 225-pound bench press 30 times, ran sub-4.7 in the 40-yard dash on a number of handheld watches and looked good in his drill work.




    Team Pick Analysis

    10. San Francisco 49ers
    Darrius Heyward-Bey
    WR, Maryland The 49ers have so many needs, and after Heyward-Bey ran a sub-4.3 in the 40 at his size, he moved up draft boards. He can stretch the field, which is critical as teams try to stop Frank Gore in the running attack. He will need to catch the ball better at his pro day to keep up the momentum he built at the combine.




    Team Pick Analysis

    11. Buffalo Bills
    Everette Brown
    DE/LB, Florida State The Bills need a pass rush and an outside linebacker. Brown could satisfy both issues. After Brown measured in at 6-foot-1˝ and 256 pounds, he really moved to the linebacker group instead of the defensive end group that he worked out with in Indianapolis. His 20 sacks over the last two years can't be overlooked.




    Team Pick Analysis

    12. Denver Broncos
    B.J. Raji
    DT, Boston College The Broncos have a long way to go to convert their defense from a 4-3 to a 3-4. They simply aren't big enough up front to be a two-gap team or have enough pass rush to protect the corners. Raji is a good fit in any front, and while the Broncos are playing a mix of the two fronts, at least they would add a big man (337 pounds) inside to help stop the run and collapse the pocket.




    Team Pick Analysis

    13. Washington Redskins
    Andre Smith
    OT, Alabama Smith created quite a stir at the combine by leaving unannounced and not working out. He is immature in some respects and could have some weight issues, but he's one heck of a talent. He's a guy who can maul opponents and has extremely long arms (35 3/8) to pass block. Washington takes him as it prepares for the end of Chris Samuels' career.




    Team Pick Analysis

    14. New Orleans Saints
    Vontae Davis
    CB, Illinois Defense is the reason the Saints haven't made a run at the Super Bowl. They paid a lot of money to the defensive line, and while they could be considered underachievers, the secondary also needs help. Davis is a big corner and could start from day one.




    Team Pick Analysis

    15. Houston Texans
    Tyson Jackson
    DE, LSU Jackson is one of the few true 4-3 left defensive-end candidates in the draft. He weighed in at 295 pounds, and he could really help opposite Mario Williams. As teams run the ball away from Williams, the Texans need a stout player holding up the strong side. Jackson will never get the protection schemes his way and he should generate some needed pass rush from the left side. His 4.96 time in the 40 is a bit pedestrian, but his 27 tackles for a loss and 18.5 sacks during his career at LSU make him a solid pick.




    Team Pick Analysis

    16. San Diego Chargers
    Rey Maualuga
    LB, USC Maualuga is a perfect fit as the strong inside linebacker in a 3-4 defense. He would bring the passion that hasn't been around at the position since Junior Seau.




    Team Pick Analysis

    17. New York Jets
    Hakeem Nicks
    WR, North Carolina Nicks is the big receiver the Jets have been looking for to play opposite Jerricho Cotchery. The Jets could be looking at a cornerback or defensive end, but Nicks should be the highest-graded player on the board. His postseason bowl performance removed any doubt about his first-round grade.




    Team Pick Analysis

    18. Chicago Bears
    Michael Oher
    OT, Mississippi The Bears got old at tackle in a hurry, and the retirement of John Tait created a sense of urgency. Chris Williams should be good at right tackle and Oher could man the left side. In one pick, Chicago cements its young bookends for the next 10 years. Always like a tackle with over 45 college starts.




    Team Pick Analysis

    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Aaron Maybin
    DE/LB, Penn State Pay close attention to what the Bucs do in free agency. Former GM Bruce Allen left the team with more salary-cap space than anyone could imagine. For now, a young player like Maybin, who could be groomed at linebacker and rush the passer, makes sense. I'm not so sure Maybin can play linebacker. As one GM told me, "He's a 250-pound pass rusher who can't do much else." His combine performance in linebacker drills suggests he may be able to drop back in coverage. I might like him more in a 3-4 defense, but he is intriguing at this point in the draft. His lack of experience (10 college starts) could move him down the draft in the weeks to come.




    Team Pick Analysis

    20. Detroit Lions
    (from Dallas Cowboys)
    Mark Sanchez
    QB, USC It could work out that the Lions get their QB on their second pick in the first round. Sanchez needs a great pro day to get back into the top 10. If he doesn't wow the offensive coordinators, he could slide down in the draft to this spot. Sanchez has the skills to win in the NFL, but he will need time to develop -- and Detroit may not have the time to let him learn from the bench.




    Team Pick Analysis

    21. Philadelphia Eagles

    Eben Britton
    OT, Arizona The Eagles need an offensive tackle, and this is the last player at that position that grades out as a first-rounder. They might decide to take a look at Connecticut's William Beatty a bit later and take a running back or wide receiver here, but history shows Andy Reid likes to take guys in the first round who play with their hand on the ground.




    Team Pick Analysis

    22. Minnesota Vikings

    Percy Harvin
    WR, Florida Another playmaker for the passing game would be nice for whomever wins the QB job in Minnesota. The Vikings may be tempted to take a defenstive tackle like Peria Jerry to get in the rotation with Pat Williams, but they got good effort from their backups last year. Harvin would light up the Metrodome working out of the slot.




    Team Pick Analysis

    23. New England Patriots

    Knowshon Moreno
    RB, Georgia Kevin Faulk isn't getting any younger, Laurence Maroney has issues staying healthy and you can never have enough good running backs. Moreno has a chance to be like Tiki Barber, an all-around back.




    Team Pick Analysis

    24. Atlanta Falcons

    Peria Jerry
    DT, Mississippi The Falcons have to beef up the middle of their defense with solid young run stoppers. Jerry is a 300-pound run stuffer who will not be available later in the draft. His 32 tackles for a loss in the last two years at Mississippi tells you the kind of inside force he can be.




    Team Pick Analysis

    25. Miami Dolphins

    Larry English
    DE/LB, Northern Illinois I've interviewed English three times already, and he is an impressive young man who looks like Takeo Spikes and plays with a tireless motor. In the Dolphins' 3-4 defense, he could line up at OLB and get after the QB. His 31.5 sacks and 57 tackles for a loss in college make him the perfect complement to Joey Porter. He had two handheld 40-yard dash times under 4.8.




    Team Pick Analysis

    26. Baltimore Ravens

    Darius Butler
    CB, Connecticut The Ravens may want another corner, but for now the UConn corner gets the call. Some of the other corners are in the 5-foot-8 range and the Ravens may be looking for someone a bit taller. Butler measured in at 5-foot-10 3/8 and was impressive in his interviews.




    Team Pick Analysis

    27. Indianapolis Colts

    James Laurinaitis
    LB, Ohio State Laurinaitis may be slipping out of the first round after his 4.80 time in the 40, but his college production -- 375 tackles with nine interceptions and 13 sacks -- says he belongs among the top 32 players. His stats speak volumes about his playmaking ability. The combine didn't help him, but the game tapes will.




    Team Pick Analysis

    28. Philadelphia Eagles
    (from Carolina Panthers)
    Kenny Britt
    WR, Rutgers The Eagles could take a big running back like Chris "Beanie" Wells from Ohio State here, but Britt gets the call this week. He's big (6-foot-2 7/8, 214 pounds) and explosive. He would be a nice complement to DeSean Jackson. If the Eagles sign T.J. Houshmandzadeh during free agency, then they're set to take a running back.




    Team Pick Analysis

    29. New York Giants
    Michael Johnson
    DE, Georgia Tech Johnson is not without his critics, but the combine really helped him regain some of his first-round status. There was no one like him physically in Indianapolis, as he checked in at 6-foot-6 7/8, 266 pounds with a 4.67 time in the 40. He can move like a linebacker, rush the passer and probably be a short-yardage tight end. In the weeks to come, he will be moving up the draft board and probably be gone by the time the Giants select.




    Team Pick Analysis

    30. Tennessee Titans
    Robert Ayers
    DE, Tennessee Ayers made a statement at the Senior Bowl that he can play the run, rush the passer and drop into coverage when asked. He thinks he's headed to a 3-4 team as an outside linebacker, which may be true, but he really fits in with the Titans. There are some concerns about his bench press (18 reps), but as one GM said, "The last thing I worry about is strength. We can fix that."




    Team Pick Analysis

    31. Arizona Cardinals
    Evander Hood
    DT, Missouri Hood had a good combine and looked impressive in drill work. He did not come to Indianapolis as a first-round candidate, but he may be leaving as one. At 6-foot-2 7/8 and 300 pounds with 34 reps on the bench press and a sub-4.9 40, his stock is rising.




    Team Pick Analysis

    32. Pittsburgh Steelers
    Jarron Gilbert
    DE, San Jose State The world champs need to find a 5-technique player to be in a rotation with starters Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel. Gilbert came to Indianapolis as a second- or third-round prospect, but the 6-foot-5, 288-pound player with 4.81 speed is moving up draft boards.
    Last edited by jnew76; 02-26-2009, 08:56 AM.

  • #2
    lol at Stafford's 40 time hurting his stock

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    • #3
      I don't know why these guys act like QB's don't always get over drafted and over valued on draft day each year...Everyone thought Flacco was a 2nd round guy then ended up going mid 1st, if a team needs a QB nobody is just going to sit around and wait and hope he drops.


      I think the chances are slim to none Stafford goes out of the top 5, and Sanchez won't slide to 20 past all those teams starved for a QB.





      Originally posted by Scott Wright
      I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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      • #4
        I think the Rams would be tempted to take stafford


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        • #5
          i don't see Jax taking a QB. they gave Garrard a pretty heft deal, and once you draft a QB with that high of a pick, the incumbent is pretty much undermined immediatey. i don;t see them giving up a guy they liked because of 1 bad year behind a beat up, lousy, OL.

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          • #6
            This "pro" mock is already dumb and I haven't even gotten to the Colts pick yet. Maybin in the 1st to Tampa Bay? I guess if they saw him as a future Dwight Freeney...

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            • #7
              According to that, Matt Stafford could realistically slip to the 49ers. I wouldn't be totally against taking DHB though. I mean Stafford get passed up by the Lions and Kirwan has the Jags taking them who already have Garrard. Then there's the Packers who are certain Aaron Rodgers is THEE man. And then you have us.. Stafford would be too good to pass on.


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              • #8
                WOW, If you thought Kirwan was low on Stafford, Scott's buddy, Matt Bitonti at Draftdaddy.com has him going #19 to the Bucs.

                http://www.draftdaddy.com/MD/index.htm

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                • #9
                  Can you image what the jets fan would do if Stafford fell to #17 and they passed on him. That would be a classic

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                  • #10
                    I'd puke if the Texans took Tyson Jackson. He looks so much like Marcus Spears.

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                    • #11
                      It's not out of the realm of possibility as some think it may be imo.
                      The whole world loves neophyte athletic tight end Jimmy Graham from Miami with the 95th pick. "Best pick in the draft,'' one AFC coach told me. "Give him time, and in that offense, he'll be better than [Jeremy] Shockey by the start of next year.''

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                      • #12
                        Jerron Gibert in the 1st round??? lol Maybe if football was played in a pool.

                        And if my Bears took Oher to play LT Id be pissed. Chris Williams is a pure LT while Oher would be a ProBowl RT.

                        Kirwin sucks.
                        I want a sig.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by georgiafan View Post
                          Can you image what the jets fan would do if Stafford fell to #17 and they passed on him. That would be a classic
                          Yes, I can imagine...Pretty sure there would be multiple arrests, chairs thrown...actually no, I can't picture it. It's too disturbing to picture hah.

                          "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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                          • #14
                            None of the NFL.com mocks are any good. If you want a laugh read Steve Whyche's.
                            Originally posted by 49erNation85
                            I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.

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                            • #15
                              If Det and KC pass on Matthew Stafford I don't see him falling out of the top ten.

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