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  • Do we realllllly need the combine?

    Ok, ok, let me rephrase that. Do we really need the workout portion of the combine? I understand where teams need to interview players and do physicals, but why do we need to know how fast a player runs or how many bench reps they can do. If a player look good on film can that be enough? So what if Player X runs a 4.3 40 and Player Y runs a 4.62. If Player X fumbles every 20 carries, runs like a scared duck, and doesn't have the mental capabilities, why take a chance on him if Player Y runs hard every down, and in interviews like a champ. The numbers seem to be irrelevant, and when it comes down to it, they don't always, or automatically mean production. Half of the threads on here seem to be about how one guy puts up better numbers than another. Why not just look at their film, talk to them, and check out their medical history. Maybe it's just late, but that's how I'm feeling right now.

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    Because your giving a guy millions of dollars so you want to know as much about him as possible, from film, to interviews, to how many bench press reps he can do, it's all a process and it's all important when your handing out that type of money.





    Originally posted by Scott Wright
    I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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    • #3
      It's pretty handy to get all the players and see what they can do on an even playing field. Every year teams pay for the combine and they don't have to if they don't want to, so I'd say they like it.

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      • #4
        Hmmm...what would it be like without a combine...just imagine...

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        • #5
          Short answer: Yes



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          • #6
            Without the combine Dwayne Jarrett would of been a top 10 pick and Rogers-Cromartie would of been a 5th rounder.





            Originally posted by Scott Wright
            I guarantee that if someone picks Cam Newton in the Top 5 they will regret it.

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            • #7
              We don't need the combine signed Andre Smith.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Splat420 View Post
                We don't need the combine signed Andre Smith.
                Good point. We need the combine to expose people like Smith. I'd still take him top 10, but meh.

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                • #9
                  because guys are going to look faster or slower than they really are based on competition

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                  • #10
                    Yes, they need it, especially for the interviews and medical exams.

                    Pick the Winners Champion 2008 | 2011

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                    • #11
                      if we didn't have the combine we'd think wells could really run a 4.3

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                      • #12
                        How bad do you need to know his 40 time? How often do you actually run like that in the game? You don't see game speed and that is what counts. Like I said, I agree with the physicals and interviews, as that weeds people out, quick. I just think there is toooo much stock being put into what they can do performance-wise during the physical drills.

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                        • #13
                          i was just being a beanie hater.

                          and again the performance drills are just to see who is better/faster/stronger than who on an even playing field. game tape doesn't show that. it shows other valuable stuff.

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                          • #14
                            Yes, we need it. This was a pretty stupid topic IMO.

                            BoneKrusher

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                            • #15
                              Well, we don't realllllly need it, but we probably do really need it. It's important, but it isn't everything. The Combine measures athletic potential and maturity and ability to train (see Andre Smith for how you can fail the latter two). You can't let it outweigh the film completely, but if a guy looks like he isn't separating enough on the field, and you find he runs a 4.6, you might then know why.

                              College players go up against other college players. It's very hard to judge how athletic they are relative to NFL players. So you have the Combine, which helps.

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