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  • There is a positive to the really high picks making obnoxious money.

    Do the very top picks in the first round of the Draft make too much money for players who've never played a down in the NFL? Yeah. However, there is one aspect that could be argued as a good thing: It reduces the likelihood teams will be motivated to tank the season once they realize they're out of the playoff run and have a chance to get a really high pick. So basically it's further motivation for teams not to suck. The way the system is right now makes high picks kind of a combination punishment and reward for being bad.

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    how many nfl teams have you seen "tank" the season for a better draft pick?

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    • #3
      That is an interesting addition to the discussion, but I still think the negatives by far outweighs to positives though.



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      • #4
        Originally posted by MikeBaltimore12 View Post
        how many nfl teams have you seen "tank" the season for a better draft pick?
        Exactly. A down side to a rookie salary cap would be further rewarding teams for bad seasons. Am I saying a rookie salary cap would be a completly bad thing? No, but it might not be completely good either.

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        • #5
          NFL teams have been known to take a dive now & again, that's the gray area where the NFL & the WWF overlap :) . In wks. 16 & 17 I think it's more a case of losing teams phoning it in b/c they have nada to play for & they don't give a rat's about their W-L rcd.

          Ambivalence & laziness trumps maneuvering for high draft pick almost every time. :twisted:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Halsey View Post
            Exactly. A down side to a rookie salary cap would be further rewarding teams for bad seasons. Am I saying a rookie salary cap would be a completly bad thing? No, but it might not be completely good either.
            The whole concept of the draft is making terrible teams better. Its supposed to level things up. Its kinda like socialism the draft. You give the best guys to the guys who need it the most


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sveen View Post
              I still think the negatives by far outweighs to positives though.
              Agreed.....

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              • #8
                I don't know why players who tank for the idea that a rookie from a few slots higher will come in and save them/take their jobs. Coaches have their jobs on the line, players fight for roster spots, etc. etc. If tanking means that they rest their starters, it is noticed, and if so, the players who are on the brink of being cut are obviously playing, and will be fighting for their jobs. Lots of time, it is a time where teams can get a feel for talent they have deeper on the roster, or get younger guys playing experience. Tanking isn't a word i would use to describe it, generally speaking.

                IMO that is more of a joke of an NBA thing where fewer players play, benches are made of guys who never see the floor, and players with huge ego's have a bigger influence on the team due to having fewer players. I don't think it comes even close to the pressure and other aspects that come into play in the NFL. Just my opinion. Certainly not a reason to say that NFL rookie salaries are fine. They are out of line, anyway you spin it.


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                • #9
                  Tanking is a big misconception. Players and coaches alike are playing for their jobs. Chances are they're not mailing it in.

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                  • #10
                    Tanking really isn't an issue in the NFL because of how short the season is and the lack of guaranteed contracts.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wicket View Post
                      The whole concept of the draft is making terrible teams better. Its supposed to level things up. Its kinda like socialism the draft. You give the best guys to the guys who need it the most
                      I think this gets over looked to often, and it's absolutely true. The Lions aren't supposed to suck forever, they are supposed to get better by adding top level talent to their team.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wicket View Post
                        The whole concept of the draft is making terrible teams better. Its supposed to level things up. Its kinda like socialism the draft. You give the best guys to the guys who need it the most
                        funny how that gets lost. Well said.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The Great Jonathan Vilma View Post
                          IMO that is more of a joke of an NBA thing where fewer players play, benches are made of guys who never see the floor, and players with huge ego's have a bigger influence on the team due to having fewer players. I don't think it comes even close to the pressure and other aspects that come into play in the NFL. Just my opinion. Certainly not a reason to say that NFL rookie salaries are fine. They are out of line, anyway you spin it.
                          Agreed in full, but that's why the NBA uses a Draft Lottery system, and not just a worst-best record order :)
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                          • #14
                            That fact that top 5 pick salaries are so high is kind of the catch 22 of having a bad season. They get the chance to find a superstar player who can save the franchise but if they make bad picks they can kill their cap and set the franchise back 10 years. So really picking high isnt totally a reward for playing badly, its more a gamble for a chance at redemption
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                            • #15
                              I think a positive to drafting high is, you get a top talent and they are forced to sign with you, since you drafted them, and for teams that are not in large markets, free agents don't usually sign with that team, but the top prospects have to sign with the smaller market teams.

                              Its sort of like free agency for smaller market teams.

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