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  • Brandon Graham and Lamarr Woodley is a little better than Freeney.

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    • brian price---------Pat williams
      mardy gilyard-----Steve smith
      C.J. spiller---------Garrison hearst
      Javid best----------leon washington
      jimmy clausen-----Tom brady
      Jon dwyer----------frank gore
      Damarius thomas--Darius hey-ward bey
      carlton mitchell------Devery henderson
      Toby gerhart-------Mike anderson (broncos)
      jerry hughes-------robert mathis
      arrelious benn-----Roy williams (wr)
      vince oghobaase---Kevin williams
      sergio kindle-------Willie Mcginnest
      Brandon ghee------Tracy porter
      Rennie curran------tyjaun hagler
      eric norwood ------elvis dumervil
      Last edited by nofalcons10; 02-04-2010, 03:18 PM. Reason: carlton mitchell wrong name + change best to leon washington

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      • Originally posted by nofalcons10 View Post
        jimmy clausen-----Tom brady
        In your dreams.

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        • Those are bad.
          I want a sig.

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          • Originally posted by RealityCheck View Post
            In your dreams.
            they're almost identical physically.

            clausen has great mechanics and is the best at directing a pro-style offense.
            he has very good accuracy on his deep balls and can make every pass.


            brady came into the league at about 200lbs.

            to be honest with you brady never looked as good as drew henson did at michigan. clausen even sets up and delivers faster than brady did at this point in his career.

            don't forget that Charlie weiss was his OC just like he was for Brady.

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            • Originally posted by HeavyLeggedWaistBender View Post
              Those are bad.
              which? all of them? why?

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              • Originally posted by nofalcons10 View Post
                C.J. spiller---------Garrison hearst
                Whoa Whoa Whoa.....Whoa.......Whoa


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                • Damaryius Thomas is nothing like Darrius Heyward-Bey. Jahvid Best isnt as tough a runner as Ahmad Bradshaw. Carlton Mitchell is probably 5 inches taller than Devery Henderson.

                  And Tom Brady is impossble to compare to since most qbs look just like he did coming out.
                  I want a sig.

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                  • Originally posted by HeavyLeggedWaistBender View Post
                    Damaryius Thomas is nothing like Darrius Heyward-Bey. Jahvid Best isnt as tough a runner as Ahmad Bradshaw. Carlton Mitchell is probably 5 inches taller than Devery Henderson.

                    And Tom Brady is impossble to compare to since most qbs look just like he did coming out.
                    do you see thomas and carlon mitchell as better route-runners than heyward-bey and henderson?

                    bradshaw was the closest player that i could think of at the time that goes about 5'9 198. a better comparison would probably be Leon washington.
                    Last edited by nofalcons10; 02-04-2010, 03:23 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by nofalcons10 View Post
                      brian price---------Pat williams
                      mardy gilyard-----Steve smith
                      C.J. spiller---------Garrison hearst
                      Javid best----------leon washington
                      jimmy clausen-----Tom brady
                      Jon dwyer----------frank gore
                      Damarius thomas--Darius hey-ward bey
                      carlton mitchell------Devery henderson
                      Toby gerhart-------Mike anderson (broncos)
                      jerry hughes-------robert mathis
                      arrelious benn-----Roy williams (wr)
                      vince oghobaase---Kevin williams
                      sergio kindle-------Willie Mcginnest
                      Brandon ghee------Tracy porter
                      Rennie curran------tyjaun hagler
                      eric norwood ------elvis dumervil
                      Well it looks like this will be the best draft class ever by far...

                      There's quite a few that I don't agree with but I think the one that made me scratch my head the most was Demaryius Thomas --- DHB. Other then them both being good run blockers it makes no sense. DHB is probably 3 tenths faster, two inches shorter, was much more deadly and elusive in space, and isn't as physical. He didn't seem to have the hands of stone in college that he does now, but I've always been impressed with Thomas' hands and his ability to take the ball out of the air.

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                      • the most impressive thing about clausen is that he plays alot like brady and i think that he might be better at directing a pass-heavy offense like brady and drew brees as opposed to a run-balanced attack like Matt ryan.

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                        • Originally posted by Cicero View Post
                          Well it looks like this will be the best draft class ever by far...

                          There's quite a few that I don't agree with but I think the one that made me scratch my head the most was Demaryius Thomas --- DHB. Other then them both being good run blockers it makes no sense. DHB is probably 3 tenths faster, two inches shorter, was much more deadly and elusive in space, and isn't as physical. He didn't seem to have the hands of stone in college that he does now, but I've always been impressed with Thomas' hands and his ability to take the ball out of the air.
                          i guess that i just see them both through devery henderson-tinted glasses, being a saints fan and all.

                          henderson has been one of the top 5 most consistent deep threats in the league the past four years but you can't really have the expectation that he will ever crack 1,000 yards because he doesn't run the 5-10 yard routes very well at all.

                          neglecting size, i see thomas and heyward bey having similar careers production-wise. they both do not run routes well enough to be 2nd or 3rd receivers and will both likely find their niche' as Rotational home-run hitters.

                          i've also seen henderson go up for the ball alot too like the TD he had in the championship game. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-hq-vid...000d5d815f07f1

                          or this amazing catch against the eagles
                          http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orlean...vs-Eagles-2009

                          i've just never seen any of those guys exhibit any ability to play X, Y, or Z with any regularity of a starter.

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                          • Originally posted by nofalcons10 View Post
                            i guess that i just see them both through devery henderson-tinted glasses, being a saints fan and all.

                            henderson has been one of the top 5 most consistent deep threats in the league the pass four years but you can't really have the expectation that he will ever crack 1,000 yards because he doesn't run the 5-10 yard routes very well at all.

                            neglecting size, i see thomas and heyward bey having similar careers production-wise. they both do not run routes well enough to be 2nd or 3rd receivers and will both likely find their niche' as Rotational home-run hitters.

                            i've also seen henderson go up for the ball alot too like the TD he had in the championship game. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-hq-vid...000d5d815f07f1

                            or this amazing catch against the eagles
                            http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orlean...vs-Eagles-2009

                            i've just never seen any of those guys exhibit any ability to play X, Y, or Z with any regularity of a starter.
                            Devery Henderson is also a lot faster than Thomas. Colston would be the better Saints receiver to compare him to physically as neither guy has great top end speed, both are somewhat tall, and they both use their size to go up and make catches while shielding the DB away from the ball.

                            I also think it's completely unfair to say that Thomas isn't a good route runner or isn't capable of running the full route tree because all Paul Johnson ever has him do is run go routes. Sure, not running any other routes hasn't helped him but he at least has to be given the chance to run them before we say that he doesn't run routes well.

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                            • Forgot who posted it, but it's so obvious it makes you say "d'oh!"

                              Toby Gerhart - Eddie George

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                              • Originally posted by Cicero View Post
                                Devery Henderson is also a lot faster than Thomas. Colston would be the better Saints receiver to compare him to physically as neither guy has great top end speed, both are somewhat tall, and they both use their size to go up and make catches while shielding the DB away from the ball.

                                I also think it's completely unfair to say that Thomas isn't a good route runner or isn't capable of running the full route tree because all Paul Johnson ever has him do is run go routes. Sure, not running any other routes hasn't helped him but he at least has to be given the chance to run them before we say that he doesn't run routes well.
                                there is always alot of analysis comparing height, speed, and leaping ability but i will never forget what the packers' GM said when the saints drafted donte' stallworth and they got Javon walker later in the round. he said that the saints neglected to take into account the body-type of the WR.

                                he said that Stallworth was too tight in the hips to cut sudden enough to be a superstar wideout. some time within the next two years Javon walker was catching for 1200+ yards and stallworth still doesn't have a single 1000 yard season in his career. henderson has the same stiffness that prevents him from turning and contorting for a grab quick enough within the first 5-10 yards.

                                Body type is just as important for receivers as it is for corners. Corners who aren't very "loose" in the hips are normally pigeonholed into zone schemes on defense.

                                his body-type just seems too stiff to me just like heyward-bay last year. Before the raiders took him in the first i had him pegged as a 3rd rounder as a deep-threat specialist.

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