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    From NBC's profootballtalk.com..

    For those of you who admire the dedication and/or question the sanity of Washington quarterback Jake Locker for deciding not to enter the NFL draft in what could be the last year of the big-money windfalls at the top of the pecking order, the decision to stay in school isn't as honorable and/or stupid as previously believed.

    As pointed out in the Associated Press article regarding Locker's decision not to forgo his final season of college eligibility, Locker had submitted his name for consideration to the NFL Collegiate Advisory Committee, which estimates where a player might be drafted.

    Despite a proclamation by ESPN's Todd McShay that Locker would/should/could be the first overall pick, a league source tells us that Locker didn't receive a first-round grade from the Advisory Committee.

    The source concedes that Locker might have still be drafted in round one given the value of the position, but the source insists that McShay was flat wrong in his assessment of Locker.

    "That's the problem," the source opined. "McShay is clueless. Up until three weeks before the 2008 draft, he said that [Kentucky's] Andre Woodson would be a first-round pick. He went in the sixth and is out of the league."

    And the source explained that these opinions come not from the same-old rant by NFL scouts that guys like McShay and Mel Kiper have the luxury of popping off with no accountability as long as it all sounds good (the same-old rant has a significant amount of accuracy, by the way), but from concerns that guys like McShay do kids a disservice by pumping up their expectations.

    "The problem I have with people like McShay saying stupid things is parents and others who 'advise' these kids think McShay knows what he is talking about," the source said. "And they believe him before they believe the Advisory Committee. Then, when the kids go a lot lower than projected they are pissed and/or depressed. . . . This stuff happens every year and we have to deal with the broken hearts because people who don't know what they are talking about put visions of grandeur into young players' heads."

    This item isn't intended to be a shot at McShay. But if the Advisory Committee didn't give a first-round grade to the guy that McShay had at the top of his board, then something is wrong with this picture. And we're inclined to think the defect doesn't come from the Committee made up of folks who scout players for a living -- and whose ongoing careers depend not on their ability to talk smoothly about their views, but on whether enough of the players whom they believe to be good players become good players.

  • #2
    http://draftcountdown.com/forum/show...=37116&page=10

    Its all ready been posted but ya McShay got owned.

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    • #3
      The advisory board is ridiculously conservative.
      Credit to BoneKrusher for the Sig
      RIP themaninblack

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      • #4
        ...does that mean Scott was wrong about Jake too?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by foozball View Post
          ...does that mean Scott was wrong about Jake too?
          Have fun on your vacation ;)
          I want a sig.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by VoodooMonkey View Post
            The advisory board is ridiculously conservative.
            The owner of a certain site we all enjoy also had Locker rated about as high as he could go....to have him completely out of the first round is just too conservative even for the advisory board...

            Something just doesn't seem right in it all.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by HeavyLeggedWaistBender View Post
              Have fun on your vacation ;)
              Pshh...it's no knock on SW. He had a blog post saying the same thing McShay said...that Locker would likely have been a top 5 pick. "There is little doubt that Locker was destined for the Top 5 and a very good chance he would've been the #1 overall pick in the 2010 NFL draft."

              It wasn't just SW or McShay...EVERYONE had Locker going top 5.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                The owner of a certain site we all enjoy also had Locker rated about as high as he could go....to have him completely out of the first round is just too conservative even for the advisory board...

                Something just doesn't seem right in it all.
                It's not surprising to me. I wish I could track down the link, but some of the things they say are flat out of line with the way most people think. The draft is relativity easy to predict from a broad perspective, especially after the college football season is over and underclassmen start declaring. I'm not saying you can be accurate, but you can paint a picture, like Scott does. The picture painted by the advisory committee is often completely out of line with the way things end up being and are perceived.

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                • #9
                  Methinks the Shark paid the advisory board to give him a low grade and bring him back. /end semi-sarcastic "rant".
                  Nanna Bryndís Hilmarsdóttir is a goddess

                  Rest in Peace, themaninblack

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                  • #10
                    Does anyone really believe Locker would not have been selected in the 20, let alone the top 5??

                    The NFL Advisory Committee is on crack if they believe Locker would not have commanded a 1st round selection, if not #1 overall.

                    IMO this is a non-story.

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                    • #11
                      if McShay got owned we all got owned, who didn't have him going in the first round? hell, who didn't have him going in the top 10?

                      i disagree with the advisory committee, that's for sure.
                      Taking a Knapp.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by VoodooMonkey View Post
                        The advisory board is ridiculously conservative.
                        This is true. But its better that they be overly conservative than give someone the wrong information leading them to make a decision they'll later regret.

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                        • #13
                          LMAO@All of the McShay hate.

                          McShay isn't the idiot you all try to make him out to be. McShay has been right on Colt McCoy for over a year now.
                          **** her in da *****!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by descendency View Post
                            LMAO@All of the McShay hate.

                            McShay isn't the idiot you all try to make him out to be. McShay has been right on Colt McCoy for over a year now.
                            How has he been right on Colt McCoy? He hasn't even played a down in the NFL yet.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by descendency View Post
                              LMAO@All of the McShay hate.

                              McShay isn't the idiot you all try to make him out to be. McShay has been right on Colt McCoy for over a year now.

                              It's not hate, but the source has an extremely valid point. If McShay pumps up some players' expectations, and they get dropped, like the source said, McShay doesn't have to deal with the repercussions. The advisory committee is looking out for the best interest of the player, McShay has nothing invested in the athlete.

                              I agree that they are overly conservative, but maybe there's something that we all don't know about the kid; it's not like the committee is trying to screw him over.

                              "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."

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