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  • Question About The 40 Yard Dash...

    ...I've searched Google some and quickly searched for some threads here...but here's my question as I have yet to find an answer:


    Why don't they run the 40 yard dash with pads at the combine?

    To me it just makes more sense that they would run the 40 with their pads and everything on. That way it's at least somewhat more accurate. IMO, it's still useless to be used as a major scouting tool. But it would be more helpful than the current way they do it. In a way, it would eliminate just the track star athletes from having just a super combine. Or maybe not eliminate, but it would give teams a more accurate football speed.

    Idk...maybe there's some easy answer that I haven't thought of yet.

    My question applies also to cone drills and shuttle times. They don't do any of those in pads either. Everything is without pads. Pads definitely make a difference in those cuts and turns. So if you apply my basic question to all those types of drills...what's the reasoning then?

    Basically the point of my question is not to make the 40 time a more accurate measuring tool. Rather, it is a question that can be applied to any thing measuring some kind of football speed....cone drills, shuttle times, 40s. All of these are done without pads.

    Why not use pads? What's the purpose, when in a game, they do all of these things with pads?
    Last edited by V.I.P; 02-21-2010, 04:52 PM.


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  • #2
    The point of drills like the 40 yard dash is too see how athletic the player is, so with pads it wouldn't be as telling. They should do it in pads and without pads.

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    • #3
      as long as you're comparing it to everybody else, pads would show how athletic they are. i think it's a good idea. then again it would start becoming who has the best, lightest, smallest pads. what schools can afford the newest kinds. and if the combine just handed them out, the players would complain they weren't used to them.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by superman View Post
        as long as you're comparing it to everybody else, pads would show how athletic they are. i think it's a good idea. then again it would start becoming who has the best, lightest, smallest pads. what schools can afford the newest kinds. and if the combine just handed them out, the players would complain they weren't used to them.
        The point isn't that theyre comparing how athletic they are compared to other players, the point is that they just want to see how naturally athletic the player is.

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        • #5
          Should the do the SATS in college while your coming down on a coke binge? It may not be a true testament as to your abilities and speed on the field, but it is a way to gage where you are at in comparison to other prospects
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          • #6
            Originally posted by MikeTeel View Post
            The point of drills like the 40 yard dash is too see how athletic the player is, so with pads it wouldn't be as telling. They should do it in pads and without pads.
            Bingo. +rep for that.

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            • #7
              This whole idea is ridiculous. You want as few variables as possible so there is consistency among all the players you evaluate. The scouts want everyone on a level playing field. It would just turn into nonsense if they had to put on pads. It would be all about who has the lightest pads, who has the least padding. It would give a less accurate picture of speed than without pads because of the lack of consistency. If you are really concerned about how fast a player runs in pads, just watch his film.

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              • #8
                Football speed isn't just pads guys... most of the time its hesitation, even for a split second, the fear or getting hurt or just overall thinking too much is what might slow a player down not just pads. Honestly IMO, if you're faster than the next guy without pads you should be with pads as well, I don't think pads make much a difference.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MikeTeel View Post
                  The point isn't that theyre comparing how athletic they are compared to other players, the point is that they just want to see how naturally athletic the player is.
                  the entire draft is comparing one player to another and seeing who to pick first. i think it'd be just like changing the 40 yd dash to 50 yd dash. times would be slower than previous years but it's all relative and wouldn't affect anything draft wise.

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                  • #10
                    You're 100% right, same thing about how many reps a prospect can put up in the bench..another almost totally useless measurement.

                    The best answer I can give is that it's tradition and it gives teams an opportunity to quantify the performance they see on the field.
                    IMO it's been overemphasized by most teams, but that's the nature of the beast.

                    Most scouts can tell from watching games live how fast a potential prospect is and whether or not he has the athletic ability/speed/quickness to play in the NFL.

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                    • #11
                      Playing devil's advocate, why do they run a 40 yd dash at all?

                      No lineman runs 40 yds at a clip in a game. A QB very rarely does.

                      Not many LBs do. RBs do once in a while. DBs/WRs do a couple times a game, but rarely in a straight line.

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                      • #12
                        You guys over analyze the 40 yards dash... it is just a barometer to see who is faster than who, its only purpose is to give us an idea about speed not to gurantee he'll be running circles around people in the NFL there is no such workout that would let us see that.

                        Bone Krusher, the best

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                        • #13
                          With a ball in their hands!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by VoodooMonkey View Post
                            With a ball in their hands!
                            and without ;)


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                            - No pass rusher till the fourth round (or preferably at all)
                            - Corner or Wideout in the first
                            - No reaching
                            - No Kelvin Benjamin

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                            • #15
                              People keep over emphasizing this one drill. You don't play football in a t-shirt and shorts. You play football with helmets and pads, a tired and sore body, and with your instincts. In my opinion, the 40 is only a tool for scouts. If a player runs slower than you expect, then you go back to the tape and see if you missed anything. If someone runs faster, then you go back to the tape and see if it translates. It is foolish to take someone based on their 40 speed. You should take a player because of their game speed.

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