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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eveland-bound/

    Gocong and Sheldon Brown to Browns

    Picks and player (not announced) to Philly

    I would guess that CB instantly becomes Phillies #1 need, I also heard I think from Brandt or Casserly that you can expect a bunch of CB's at the back end of round 1, names other than Haden and Wilson are McCourty, Kareem Jackson, Patrick Robinson and Chris Cook(rumored to Minny). You have teams like SF, Tenn, Pitt, Green Bay, Philly, Minny, and Baltimore.

    This also tells me that Haden is no longer for the Browns, I think either of the 3 in Spiller, Bryant, Berry maybe even Derrick Morgan
    Patriots Draft 2015
    1. CB - Marcus Peters
    2. WR - Sammie Coates
    3. RB - David Johnson
    3. DT - Angelo Blackson
    4. OG - Tre Jackson
    4. DE - Za'Darius Smith
    5. LB - Ben Heeney
    6. TE - Wes Saxton
    7. OG - Jose Matais

  • #2
    "Sheldon Brown, Chris Gocong could be Cleveland bound"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by RealityCheck View Post
      "Sheldon Brown, Chris Gocong could be Cleveland bound"
      I know, I know, Im jumping the gun here....they need to move the draft up, Im scratching here
      Patriots Draft 2015
      1. CB - Marcus Peters
      2. WR - Sammie Coates
      3. RB - David Johnson
      3. DT - Angelo Blackson
      4. OG - Tre Jackson
      4. DE - Za'Darius Smith
      5. LB - Ben Heeney
      6. TE - Wes Saxton
      7. OG - Jose Matais

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      • #4
        this is already in the pro football section, theres no need to start another here

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        • #5
          Trade has happened gocong and brown for alex hall, pick 105 and pick 137.

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          • #6
            makes Joe Haden at #7 much, much, much less likely (though not completely impossible). Eric Berry if he's there. If not it gets interesting. I could see Cleveland aggressively trying to trade down if Berry is gone much like they did last year when Aaron Curry was gone.

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            • #7
              If Berry's gone, my sleeper pick is Trent Williams. I really can't imagine Spiller or Dez being the pick.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
                makes Joe Haden at #7 much, much, much less likely (though not completely impossible). Eric Berry if he's there. If not it gets interesting. I could see Cleveland aggressively trying to trade down if Berry is gone much like they did last year when Aaron Curry was gone.
                And what about if Clausen is avalaible at #7?

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                • #9
                  Clausen makes the most sense even if we didn't trade for Sheldon Brown considering a young franchise QB is the top need for Cleveland...but apparently Holmgren doesn't like Clausen that much, and it would be "hard for him to take him at 7".....but then again there's a small chance that that is just some kind of bizarre smokescreen.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by keylime_5 View Post
                    Clausen makes the most sense even if we didn't trade for Sheldon Brown considering a young franchise QB is the top need for Cleveland...but apparently Holmgren doesn't like Clausen that much, and it would be "hard for him to take him at 7".....but then again there's a small chance that that is just some kind of bizarre smokescreen.
                    that's something I've been trying to figure out. 9 out of 10 mock drafts have Cleveland picking Haden or Berry. Yet they've got potentially the worst offensive skill position talent in the league (sans Cribbs, of course). I just don't get how Clausen, Bryant, and even Spiller aren't more of a consideration. Perhaps none of them are as bullet-proof as Berry, but this is a team that hasn't been able to score touchdowns for two seasons now.

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                    • #11
                      I'll give you a sleeper pick for the Browns. If Eric Berry is gone I hear that Earl Thomas the free safety from Texas is moving up fast. He could be a surprise selection.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by lance uppercut View Post
                        that's something I've been trying to figure out. 9 out of 10 mock drafts have Cleveland picking Haden or Berry. Yet they've got potentially the worst offensive skill position talent in the league (sans Cribbs, of course). I just don't get how Clausen, Bryant, and even Spiller aren't more of a consideration. Perhaps none of them are as bullet-proof as Berry, but this is a team that hasn't been able to score touchdowns for two seasons now.
                        I totally agree that offense should be in the discussion, but from my perspective, I think a team in as bad a shape as the Browns need a "bullet-proof" prospect in the first. Although possibly a smokescreen, Holmgren has said he doesn't love Clausen (and neither do I fwiw), Bryant is a little crazy, and Spiller seems like a reach at 7. I think the fact that we need a "can't miss" prospect as well as factoring value makes the defensive players (Berry, Haden, etc.) the logical picks at this point.

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                        • #13
                          I think it will be offense in Spiller or Bryant, with an outside shot of Derrick Morgan, not Clausen...I see a Quinn-esque fall
                          Patriots Draft 2015
                          1. CB - Marcus Peters
                          2. WR - Sammie Coates
                          3. RB - David Johnson
                          3. DT - Angelo Blackson
                          4. OG - Tre Jackson
                          4. DE - Za'Darius Smith
                          5. LB - Ben Heeney
                          6. TE - Wes Saxton
                          7. OG - Jose Matais

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                          • #14
                            While Spiller would be a great pick (some think he could be similar to Chris Johnson in the NFL with his speed, quickness, and vision), I think the Browns feel they are set at RB with Harrison, Hillis, James Davis, and Chris Jennings to compete for 3 spots. I think if Spiller is the top player on their board come their pick that they will try to trade down hard. Bryant makes a lot of sense in a vacuum, but his character red flags and the fact that he didn't destroy at his pro day I think eliminates him from the discussion considering what Holmgren and most especially Mangini likes in their players' character quality. Look for the Browns to pick a WR, but not until round 2 or 3 with names like Mardy Gilyard, Taylor Price, and Jacoby Ford in mind. They want to add speed to the WR unit.

                            Earl Thomas they say was falling at the owners meetings and was more likely to go in the 20s than the top 10.....now after a great pro day and reports of some teams even liking him to play corner they say his stock is on the rise. After the combine I heard he was likely to go in that 10-20 range. If Berry is gone he is perhaps the one guy that we might realistically target that I would love to land. Ballhawking free safety playmaker would fit into our defense very well.

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                            • #15
                              Could mean Haden falls right into our laps at #13

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