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    I just wrote this for B/R, thought some fans here would be surprised to learn a few of these historical notes.

    All indications are that Sam Bradford is about to become the latest quarterback selected #1 overall in an NFL Draft. Obviously, that will make him the first QB selected in yet another draft.

    Not so fast, says Mel Kiper. He rates Jimmy Clausen slightly higher and says he is more pro-ready than Bradford, while Super Bowl-winning QB Trent Dilfer agrees.

    Dilfer believes that the Rams would be best off taking defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh first overall, then trading up from the 33rd pick to select Colt McCoy as their quarterback.
    He thinks Jimmy Clausen is by far the best quarterback right now.

    He thinks Sam Bradford faces a tough transition. He pegs McCoy as the player most likely to develop into the best quarterback from this draft. What does Dilfer know? Well, he's played the position in the NFL, won a Super Bowl as a starting QB, and he has studied the players in great detail and using film that the general public doesn't have access to.

    From ESPN, Dilfer said he has watched every 2009 snap from all three quarterbacks -- two and three times in some cases -- using a template he developed with input from Mike Holmgren, Brian Billick, and others. Dilfer attributes Bradford's perceived rise to hype and misinformation from personnel people with agendas.

    "In my opinion," Dilfer said of Bradford, "he is not even close to the best player in this draft." McCoy's competitiveness, leadership and athletic ability to extend plays will set him apart over time, Dilfer predicted.

    Now, we all can see the same thing and come away with different opinions. Scouts surely differed in their opinions in 1991 when Seattle chose Dan McGwire (Mark's brother) over Southern Miss's Brett Favre.
    So did Raiders scouts that year when they selected Todd Marinovich ahead of Favre.

    Let me focus on two areas which demonstrate why I believe the Rams should not select Bradford number one overall.

    First, lets look back at some draft history regarding quarterbacks. While past results are not always an indication of results going forward, I believe lessons learned in the past can teach scouts and GM's a lot going forward.

    Here are the past 35 or so drafts, showing who the first QB taken was in each of them.

    1973
    First QB: Bert Jones, #2 overall
    QBs selected after: Dan Fouts, 3rd round; Ron Jaworski, 2nd round
    Was the first QB the best one when all was said and done? No, Fouts was

    1974
    First QB: Danny White
    QBs selected after: Crap. Was a terrible year for QBs.
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes, and White was very underrated by Cowboy fans

    1975
    First: Steve Bartkowski, #1 overall QBs selected after:
    Steve Grogan, round 5, Dan Pastorini, round 7
    Was the first QB the best one? Close

    1976
    First: Richard Todd, #6 overall
    QBs selected after: Crap. Was a terrible year for QBs
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes, but nothing special

    1977
    First: Steve Pisarkiewitz, #19 overall
    QBs selected after: Tommy Kramer, Vince Ferragamo, Steve Deberg
    Was the first QB the best one? Not even close

    1978
    First: Doug Williams, #17 overall
    QBs selected after: Matt Cavanaugh
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes

    1979
    First: Jack Thompson, #3 overall (by your Cincinnati Bengals)
    QBs selected after: Phil Simms, Joe Montana, Chuck Fusina
    Was the first QB the best one? No, historical blunder

    1980
    First: Marc Wilson, #15 overall
    QBs selected after: not great, but Mark Malone, Gary Hogeboom, David WoodleyWas the first QB the best one? No

    1981
    First: Rich Campbell, #6 overall (Packers, whoops)
    QBs selected after: Neil Lomax, 2nd round
    Was the first QB the best one? No

    1982
    First: Gambling Art Schlicter, #4 overall (by Baltimore Colts, whoops)
    QBs selected after: Jim McMahon
    Was the first QB the best one? No

    1983
    First: John Elway (by Baltimore Colts, but he wouldnt play a down for them)
    QBs selected after: Jim Kelly #14, Dan Marino #27
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes & No Elway was the right pick, but since he wouldn't play for them, they'd have been better off taking Marino, in hindsight

    1984
    First: Boomer Esiason, #38
    QBs selected after: Steve Young, supl
    Was the first QB the best one? I guess so because I don't know how the supplemental rule was in 1984 with the USFL

    1985
    First: Randall Cunningham, #37
    Supplemental pick: Bernie Kosar Taken late: Doug Flutie, round 11
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes

    1986
    First: Jim Chris Everett, #3 overall
    QBs taken after: Bubby Brister, round 3, Mark Rypien, round 6
    Was the first QB the best one? Tough call with Rypien

    1987
    First: Vinny Testacleverde, #1 overall
    QBs taken after: Kelly Stouffer, Chris Miller, Jim Harbaugh, all round 1. Rich Gannon round 4. Don Majikowski, round 10
    Was the first QB the best one? Tough call with former MVP Gannon, although Vinnie had the longevity, Gannon's peak was better

    1988
    First: Chris Chandler, 3rd round (was first QB, bad year) QBs taken after: crap. Horrible year for QBs
    Was the first QB the best one? By default

    1989
    First: Troy Aikman, #1 overall Clear best QB
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes

    1990
    First: Jeff George #1 overall
    Next: Andre Ware #7 overall
    QBs taken after: Neil ODonnell, round 3
    Was the first QB the best one? No

    1991
    First: Dan McGwire #16 overall
    Next: Todd Marinovich, #24
    QB taken after: Brett Favre, #33
    Was the first QB the best one? No, historical huge blunder

    1992
    First: David Klingler #6 overall
    QBs taken after: Tommy Maddox, Jeff Blake, Brad Johnson round 9
    Was the first QB the best one? No, verified bust

    1993
    First: Drew Bledsoe #1 overall
    QBs taken after: Rick Mirer #2 overall, Mark Brunell round 5 (Packers), Trent Green round 8
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes

    1994
    First: Heath Shuler #3 overall (ouch)
    QBs taken after: Trent Dilfer, Gus Frerotte
    Undrafted: Kurt Warner
    Was the first QB the best one? No, certified huge bust

    1995
    First: Steve McNair #3 overall
    After: Kerry Collins #5 overall, Kordell Stewart #60 overall, Rob Johnson round 4
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes

    1996
    First: Tony Banks
    After: Crap, this is one of the worst class of QBs in NFL history
    Was the first QB the best one? NA, I can't certify Banks even though nobody else was better, just a horrible class of QB's.

    1997
    First: Jim Druckenmiller #26 overall
    After: Jake Plummer #42, Koy Detmer round 7
    Was the first QB the best one? No

    1998
    First: Peyton Manning #1 overall
    Next: Ryan Leaf #2 overall
    After Leaf: Chuck Batch round 2, Brian Griese round 3, Matt Haselbeck round 6 (Packers)
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes!

    1999
    First: Tim Couch #1 overall (Browns)
    Next: Donovan McNabb #2 overall
    Next: Akili Smith #3 overall (your Cincinnati Bengals)
    After Couch & Akili: Culpepper #11 overall, Aaron Brooks round 4 (Packers)
    Was the first QB the best one? No, although he was better than Akili Smith

    2000
    First: Chad Pennington #18 overall
    Next: Giovanni Carmazzi, 49ers, Chris Redman, Ravens, Tee Martin, Steelers, Mark Bulger, Saints, Spergon Wynn, Browns,
    After: Tom Brady, Patriots round 6
    Was the first QB the best one? No, even though Pennington has had a nice career, but Brady to New England fuled this rivalry to new heights

    2001
    First: Michael Vick #1 overall
    After: Drew Brees round 2
    Was the first QB the best one? No, even though Vick was electric and led Atlanta to some playoffs

    2002
    First: David Carr #1 overall
    Next: Joey Harrington #3 overall, Patrick Ramsey round 1
    After: David Garrard round 4
    Was the first QB the best one? No, colossal bust at #1, although nobody great afterwards

    2003
    First: Carson Palmer #1 overall (bingo, although hes not the same after the knee)
    Next: Leftwich #7, Boller & Grossman round 1 also
    After: Tony Romo, undrafted > http://www.draftinsiders.com/node/94
    Was the first QB the best one? Yes, although Romo is now better

    2004
    First: Eli Manning #1 overall
    Next: Philip Rivers #4, Roethlisberger #11
    After: JP Losman #22, Matt Schuab round 3, Jim Sorgi round 6
    Was the first QB the best one? Won a Super Bowl, but Rivers is better, and Roethlisberger has won two Super Bowls, so I'd say no.

    2005
    First: Alex Smith #1 overall
    After: Aaron Rodgers #24 overall
    Next: Jason Campbell #25 overall
    After: Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, David Greene, Kyle Orton, Stefon LeFors, Dan Orlovsky, Adrian McPherson, Derek Anderson, Matt Cassell
    Was the first QB the best one? No, but Smith still has a chance to become real good

    2006
    First: Vince Young #3 overall
    Next: Matt Leinart #10, Jay Cutler #11
    Was the first QB the best one? Has been benched, but revitalized. I'd say No because if they redrafted these QB's, Cutler would go highest

    2007
    First: JaMarcus Russell #1 overall
    Next: Brady Quinn #22 overall
    After: Kevin Kolb #36, John Beck #40, Drew Stanton #43, Trent Edwards #92
    Was the first QB the best one? No, another all-time classic bust at #1

    2008
    First: Matt Ryan #3 overall
    Next: Joe Flacco #18
    After: Brian Brohm #56, Chad Henne #57
    Was the first QB the best one? Too soon to declare, but looks good so far

    2009
    First: Matt Stafford #1 overall
    After: Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman
    Was the first QB the best one? Too soon to declare, but looks promising so far

    COLT MCCOY
    4-year starter, 53 games
    Passer Rating: 158.25
    Comp %: 70.2
    Yards: 13,253
    TDs: 112
    Ints: 45
    Rushing: 1589 yards, 20 TDs
    In 2008, led the Longhorns in rushing with 576 yards, 10 TD rushes, and threw for 34 TDs with an NCAA record 77.6 completion percentage.

    2006 Valero Alamo Bowl Offensive MVP
    2008 Pacific Life Holiday Bowl Offensive MVP
    2008 Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year by the Associated Press
    2008 Walter Camp Award by the Walter Camp Foundation
    2008 First-team All-America by the Walter Camp Foundation, FWAA, and Sports Illustrated
    2008 Archie Griffin Award
    2008 co-Sporting News Player of the Year
    2008 Heisman Memorial Trophy Runner-up
    2009 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl Offensive MVP
    2009 First-team All-American by Associated Press, AFCA, FWAA, Walter Camp Foundation, Rivals.com, Scout.com
    2009 First-team All-Big 12
    2009 Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year by the Associated Press
    2009 NCAA Quarterback of the Year
    2009 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award
    2009 Davey O'Brien Award
    2009 Chic Harley Award
    2009 Maxwell Award
    2009 Walter Camp Award by the Walter Camp Foundation
    2009 Sporting News College Athlete of the Year
    2009 AT&T ESPN All-America Player of the Year

    SAM BRADFORD
    3-year starter, 30 games
    Passer Rating: 175.6
    Comp %: 67.6
    Yards: 8,403
    TDs: 88
    Ints: 16
    Rushing:49 career yards, 5 TDs

    2007 Sporting News Freshman of the Year
    2007 Second-team All-American by Sporting News
    2007 Honorable mention All-American by Pro Football Weekly, College Football News, and Sports Illustrated
    2007 All-Big 12 honorable mention by the league's coaches
    2007 All-Big 12 Academic Team
    2008 Second-team Academic All-American by ESPN The Magazine
    2008 All-Big 12 Academic Team
    2008 Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year as named by the league's coaches, who also selected him to the All-Big 12 first team
    2008 First-team All-American by CBS Sports, Rivals.com, ESPN, Associated Press and Sporting News
    2008 Davey O'Brien Award winner
    2008 Heisman Trophy winner
    2008 Associated Press College Football Player of the Year
    2008 Sammy Baugh Trophy
    2008 co-Sporting News Player of the Year
    2008 Harley Award
    2008 Touchdown Club of Columbus Quarterback of the Year

    2 Direct HEAD-to-HEAD Games
    2007:
    Bradford: 21-32, 244 yards, 3 TDs, 0 Ints, 7.6 yds per attempt, 160.6 passer rating
    McCoy: 19-26, 324 yards, 2 TDs, 1 Int, 12.5 yds per attempt, 195.4 passer rating, Sooners win 28-21

    2008:
    Bradford: 28-39, 387 yards, 5 TDs, 2 Ints, 9.9 yds per attempt, 187.2 passer rating, 0 yards rushing
    McCoy: 28-35, 277 yards, 1 TD, 0 Ints, 7.9 yds per attempt, 155.9 passer rating, 31 yards rushing
    Longhorns win 45-35

    2009:
    Bradford was out injured, no H2H matchup. Texas wins ugly game.

    2-Game H2H Cumulative:
    Bradford: 49-71, 631 yards, 8.8 yards per attempt, 8 TDs, 2 Ints, 1-1 record
    McCoy: 47-61, 601 yards, 9.8 yards per attempt, 3 TDs, 1 Int, 1-1 record (3-1 career vs. OU; beat OU in 2006 & 2009)

    Now, what does all of this mean? It really means nothing going forward.

    But looking back at QB history, and Colt & Sams history playing together in the same conference in the same era, and head to head. Theres not much separating them.

    Both have been fantastic passing QBs, while McCoy also has some good running ability and instincts, ala an Aaron Rodgers. Both are accurate, and both have a history of winning.

    The biggest difference is the two inches in their height. And take a look at that 30-year QB history I provided. Theres no correlation between two-inches determining who succeeds and who doesnt. In fact, the Seattle GM chose Dan McGwire ahead of Brett Favre for only one reason: he was taller.

    Some say Sams arm is stronger. It probably is. Sure, in 1979 Jack Thompson had a stonger arm than Joe Montana and Phil Sims did. So what? Thompson was taken first. Who here has heard of Jack Thompson?

    And hows Bradfords shoulder going to hold up the next time he gets sacked? The last two hits he took, his shoulder popped out. St Louis plays on turf too, not softer natural grass.

    I agree with Trent Dilfer: The Rams should draft nDominator Suh at #1 because hes the best player available, and then trade up into the 20s and select Colt McCoy. That would be a phenomenal duo for the Rams and would set them back on track to winning more games in St Louis.

  • #2
    I don't get the comparison to the 1st Qb taken to the others. Their is no correlation to one's NFL success and where they were drafted.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
      I just wrote this for B/R, thought some fans here would be surprised to learn a few of these historical notes.

      All indications are that Sam Bradford is about to become the latest quarterback selected #1 overall in an NFL Draft. Obviously, that will make him the first QB selected in yet another draft.

      Not so fast, says Mel Kiper. He rates Jimmy Clausen slightly higher and says he is more pro-ready than Bradford, while Super Bowl-winning QB Trent Dilfer agrees.

      Dilfer believes that the Rams would be best off taking defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh first overall, then trading up from the 33rd pick to select Colt McCoy as their quarterback.
      He thinks Jimmy Clausen is by far the best quarterback right now.

      1.He thinks Sam Bradford faces a tough transition. He pegs McCoy as the player most likely to develop into the best quarterback from this draft. What does Dilfer know? 2. Well, he's played the position in the NFL, won a Super Bowl as a starting QB, and he has studied the players in great detail and using film that the general public doesn't have access to.

      3. From ESPN, Dilfer said he has watched every 2009 snap from all three quarterbacks -- two and three times in some cases -- using a template he developed with input from Mike Holmgren, Brian Billick, and others. Dilfer attributes Bradford's perceived rise to hype and misinformation from personnel people with agendas.

      "In my opinion," Dilfer said of Bradford, "he is not even close to the best player in this draft." McCoy's competitiveness, leadership and athletic ability to extend plays will set him apart over time, Dilfer predicted.

      Now, we all can see the same thing and come away with different opinions. Scouts surely differed in their opinions in 1991 when Seattle chose Dan McGwire (Mark's brother) over Southern Miss's Brett Favre.
      4. So did Raiders scouts that year when they selected Todd Marinovich ahead of Favre.

      Let me focus on two areas which demonstrate why I believe the Rams should not select Bradford number one overall.

      5. First, lets look back at some draft history regarding quarterbacks. While past results are not always an indication of results going forward, I believe lessons learned in the past can teach scouts and GM's a lot going forward.



      Now, what does all of this mean? It really means nothing going forward.

      But looking back at QB history, and Colt & Sams history playing together in the same conference in the same era, and head to head. Theres not much separating them.

      Both have been fantastic passing QBs, while McCoy also has some good running ability and instincts, ala an Aaron Rodgers. Both are accurate, and both have a history of winning.

      The biggest difference is the two inches in their height. And take a look at that 30-year QB history I provided. Theres no correlation between two-inches determining who succeeds and who doesnt. In fact, the Seattle GM chose Dan McGwire ahead of Brett Favre for only one reason: he was taller.

      6. Some say Sams arm is stronger. It probably is. Sure, in 1979 Jack Thompson had a stonger arm than Joe Montana and Phil Sims did. So what? Thompson was taken first. Who here has heard of Jack Thompson?

      7. And hows Bradfords shoulder going to hold up the next time he gets sacked? The last two hits he took, his shoulder popped out. St Louis plays on turf too, not softer natural grass.

      I agree with Trent Dilfer: The Rams should draft nDominator Suh at #1 because hes the best player available, and then trade up into the 20s and select Colt McCoy. That would be a phenomenal duo for the Rams and would set them back on track to winning more games in St Louis.
      There is SOO much wrong with this post. It is completely biased. I will start off by saying the stats you posted are irrelevant. If college stats meant pro success, there wouldn't be scouts. We wouldn't be arguing the draft at all.

      Bold #1: A tough transition from what? A spread system to the pros? You know who else has to do that? Colt McCoy. Irrelevant point.
      #2: Isiah Thomas is a top 25 basketball player of all time and won 2 titles, but he really was a good GM, wasn't he? Same with Michael Jordan. And Kevin McHale. Just because you were a good player doesn't make you a good exec.
      #3: Oh, every snap from 2009? That wouldn't make his viewing biased against Bradford at all, considering he didn't even play over HALF of the ******* season. The season in which Bradford did play all the season, he won the Heisman. Maybe Dilfer should watch a little 2008 tape of Bradford.
      #4: You could point out cases where **** happened in your favor, and I can come up with just as many if not more cases in which is failed. A short quarterback excelling is an exception, not the rule.
      #5: Again, maybe you should look back at all the years in which your argument is proved wrong, and the scouts were right. The bias and ignorance in this post is appalling.
      #6: Same **** as number 4 and 5. Look at both sides of the argument, don't just conveniently pluck out information that only supports your case, while ignoring the rest of the evidence.
      #7: How did Colt's shoulder hold up last time he got hit? That hit was WAYYYY less hard than the ones Bradford took. Zzzz...

      In conclusion, I ******* LOVE Colt McCoy and think Bradford is slightly overrated, but your post is completely ignorant. This argument is so fatally flawed, biased, and just stupid. If you want to actually convince people, you can't just use what information fits, but you need to use all information. Just because someone says it on ESPN doesn't make it true. Appreciate the effort you put into this post, but you are wrong.

      Bonekrusher.

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      Football...it's rocket surgery now, folks.

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      • #4
        Interesting post, but part of the reason #1 draft pick QBs fail is that the team they are going to is (obviously) awful. Lack of talent plus usually a bad front office that doesn't know how to nurture a QB = less odds the QB will succeed.

        So yeah, interesting post and I enjoyed skimming over it, but there are more factors than simply draft slot. Most good QBs that were drafted late went to great situations and were able to thrive with talent surrounding them.
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        • #5
          I actually also believe that Clausen is better than Bradford and also like McCoy, but I have to go with the guy who made the point that the order you were drafted in has nothing to do with success in the league. There are literally an infinite amount of variables that go into that that it makes it a faulty comparison. Should the Rams keep trading back until someone else takes a QB to ensure they don't get it wrong? Peyton Manning and Tom Brady both have an "a" in their last name. Should this influence me to draft Bradford over McCoy?

          But yeah, I do think Clausen will be a little better than Bradford, but I still don't believe either will be an elite NFL QB.

          However, I'm ALWAYS wrong on quarterbacks. So Bradford and Clausen will be first-ballot HOF'ers, but Bradford will win 10 Super Bowls and Clausen only 9.

          For future reference, I also like Zac Robinson, Dan LeFevour, Tony Pike, and Mike Kafka. I don't like Tebow, Snead, Skelton, Daryll Clark,or Rusty Smith.

          Just watch - three years from now, you'll all be amazed by how absolutely wrong I was. Every single thing I think about QBs is wrong.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SKim172 View Post
            I actually also believe that Clausen is better than Bradford and also like McCoy, but I have to go with the guy who made the point that the order you were drafted in has nothing to do with success in the league. There are literally an infinite amount of variables that go into that that it makes it a faulty comparison. Should the Rams keep trading back until someone else takes a QB to ensure they don't get it wrong? Peyton Manning and Tom Brady both have an "a" in their last name. Should this influence me to draft Bradford over McCoy?

            But yeah, I do think Clausen will be a little better than Bradford, but I still don't believe either will be an elite NFL QB.

            However, I'm ALWAYS wrong on quarterbacks. So Bradford and Clausen will be first-ballot HOF'ers, but Bradford will win 10 Super Bowls and Clausen only 9.

            For future reference, I also like Zac Robinson, Dan LeFevour, Tony Pike, and Mike Kafka. I don't like Tebow, Snead, Skelton, Daryll Clark,or Rusty Smith.

            Just watch - three years from now, you'll all be amazed by how absolutely wrong I was. Every single thing I think about QBs is wrong.
            Except for the thing about "a" in the last name. I think that's a lock.

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            • #7
              I see:

              -Stats
              -Irrelevant comparisons
              -Lack of acknowledgment for McCoy's durability concerns
              -No mention of McCoy's noodle arm or all of his 3 yard bubble screens

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              • #8
                Are you an economics/business person?
                Because everything in the post is bias and skewed to make Colt McCoy look awesome while Bradford look like crap.
                Yeah, lets throw draft history out and say "Hey, #1 QB's have busted in the past, lets not take one so high!".
                I don't get these things about Colt being so much better in the long run than Bradford. Because he can throw those bubble screens, run around and throw dump offs for 4 yard gains? Ugh.

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                • #9
                  I think Dilfer is developing into a top notch analyst of QB prospects. Can't tell yet if he's right or wrong about Bradford, but I tend to listen when he has question marks about a prospect.

                  Bradford appears to be the more physically gifted QB, but I understand Dilfer's overall point that McCoy is just a 'gamer'; the kid always makes plays to win games.

                  IMO McCoy is gonna be somewhere between Jeff Garcia and Drew Brees as a pro and his mobility is going to be a major asset.

                  That said, I would not be surprised if Bradford developed into a pro bowler in the NFL, but he's going to be tested like he's never been before during his first 2 years in the league; think Troy Aikman who was Reggie White's personal tackling dummy at the beginning of his career in Dallas.

                  I think it's much harder for college QBs who rarely took hits, let alone had to rush a throw, to make the jump to the NFL game.

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                  • #10
                    So they should draft Colt McCoy instead of Bradford even though he's tiny, has a weaker arm, more injury concerns, and came from an even more unorthodox spread system than Bradford? Makes sense...

                    And the list of QBs drafted nullified the point you're trying to make. People talk about first round QB busts all time time yet conveniently ignore the astronomically high rate of QBs drafted after the first round who never amount to anything in the NFL. They may not be "busts" because they never had the expectations of a first rounder, but they sure as hell never do anything in the NFL either.

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                    • #11
                      Why is so much emphasis put on the NOT?

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                      • #12
                        I wouldn't touch Bradford, and I think McCoy can come in and play right away (but not be the long-term answer), but I'm not sure of the logicical integrity of the overall OP.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jth1331 View Post
                          Are you an economics/business person?
                          Because everything in the post is bias and skewed to make Colt McCoy look awesome while Bradford look like crap.
                          You'd best explain yourself, sir. Economics people are awesome.

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                          • #14
                            Just to indulge the original post, if you count up those draft histories, in 15 of those years, the first QB taken ended up being the best, while in 20, some quarterback taken later was better (this excludes the last two drafts since it's too soon to tell).

                            When you take into account that those quarterbacks who were taken later that ended up better were drafted afterwards, but in no specific position or round, that means that the number one quarterback taken has OVERWHELMINGLY had the better career than any one of the endless number of other possible positions where a QB can be taken.

                            Consensus #1 QBs are number one for a reason; just look at those numbers. These personnel guys know what they're doing a huge majority of the time. That being said, go Jimmy Clausen!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jth1331 View Post
                              I don't get these things about Colt being so much better in the long run than Bradford. Because he can throw those bubble screens, run around and throw dump offs for 4 yard gains? Ugh.
                              But his name is Colt and he played for Texas!

                              THAT'S SO ******* AMAZING! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT!? OMGZZZZZ!

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