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    Adrian Clayborn is a guy i've been doing alot of research (YouTube highlights) on the last couple of days. I rarely get Iowa games in my area, so i hardly get to see him play. So i have a few questions....

    - Is there a drop-off from Cameron Hayward to Adrian Clayborn?

    - What's the positives, and negatives on Clayborn?

    - Is he better suited to play DE in a 3-4 or 4-3 in the NFL?

    - Where is he projected to go in the first round?

    That is all!


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  • #2
    This guy seems to get his own thread quite regularly around here.

    I think seeing him in the top half of the 1st round is a bit high and i wouldnt really compare him to Heyward either, i think Clayborn is a 4-3 DE and Heyward can go either 4-3 or 3-4 DE. Heyward is the top guy on the line to me and Jared Crick would be the top 3-4 DE after that.
    Last edited by Babylon; 09-30-2010, 06:12 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by V-I-P View Post
      Adrian Clayborn is a guy i've been doing alot of research (YouTube highlights) on the last couple of days. I rarely get Iowa games in my area, so i hardly get to see him play. So i have a few questions....

      - Is there a drop-off from Cameron Hayward to Adrian Clayborn?

      - What's the positives, and negatives on Clayborn?

      - Is he better suited to play DE in a 3-4 or 4-3 in the NFL?

      - Where is he projected to go in the first round?

      That is all!
      IMO no there is no drop off between the 2, instead just a different players that fit different schemes. Clayborn is a 4-3 DE and Heyward is a 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. I have him as a top 10 pick

      POS: Has NFL ready size, effective against both the pass and the run(11.5 sacks and 20 TFL last season). Has a high motor and added pass rush moves from last year. Good speed off the edge for a man his size.

      CONS: Small off-field issue concerning assault arrest, probably wont have the best timed speed even though he is explosive.






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      • #4
        There are 10,0000 threads on him already, but once again...

        Yes, he can play in a variety of schemes. The consensus seems to be he's best suited as a LDE in a 4-3 and Im inclined to agree with it. However, in the right scheme he could most definitely be a 5 tech.

        Him and Heyward are different players. Heyward would play inside at the 3 tech in a 4-3 and at the 5 tech in a 3-4, similar to Richard Seymour. Clayborn is probably a bit more similar to Justin Smith, a guy I've compared to him on other occasions.

        When it's all said and done, I think he goes in the Top 10. He's a better football player then Tyson Jackson was coming out.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
          There are 10,0000 threads on him already,
          Originally posted by Babylon View Post
          This guy seems to get his own thread quite regularly around here.
          I haven't been in the draft forum since April, I guess i should've used the search bar.

          Originally posted by Babylon View Post
          I think seeing him in the top half of the 1st round is a bit high and i wouldnt really compare him to Heyward either, i think Clayborn is a 4-3 DE and Heyward can go either 4-3 or 3-4 DE. Heyward is the top guy on the line to me and Jared Crick would be the top 3-4 DE after that.
          Originally posted by RaiderNation View Post
          IMO no there is no drop off between the 2, instead just a different players that fit different schemes. Clayborn is a 4-3 DE and Heyward is a 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. I have him as a top 10 pick

          POS: Has NFL ready size, effective against both the pass and the run(11.5 sacks and 20 TFL last season). Has a high motor and added pass rush moves from last year. Good speed off the edge for a man his size.

          CONS: Small off-field issue concerning assault arrest, probably wont have the best timed speed even though he is explosive.
          Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
          Yes, he can play in a variety of schemes. The consensus seems to be he's best suited as a LDE in a 4-3 and Im inclined to agree with it. However, in the right scheme he could most definitely be a 5 tech.

          Him and Heyward are different players. Heyward would play inside at the 3 tech in a 4-3 and at the 5 tech in a 3-4, similar to Richard Seymour. Clayborn is probably a bit more similar to Justin Smith, a guy I've compared to him on other occasions.

          When it's all said and done, I think he goes in the Top 10. He's a better football player then Tyson Jackson was coming out.
          Thank you all for the info, He's a prospect that i'm hoping The Buccaneers take a long, and hard look at come April. He's getting it done on that d-line, picture when he has Gerald McCoy, and Brian Price besides him!
          Last edited by V.I.P; 09-30-2010, 10:59 PM.


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          • #6
            Could he play DE in a 34?

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            • #7
              I honestly think (and I need to watch more games of him) he could be the next Justin Tuck.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HellonEarth84 View Post
                Could he play DE in a 34?
                Yes, that's what people mean when they say "he could play 5-tech". Since a 3-4 DE plays the 5-technique (outside shoulder of the guard) whereas a 4-3 DE plays the 7-technique generally (outside shoulder of the tackle).

                Probably not Clayborn's best position, but he's got sufficient size (6'3" 285 and can fill out some more, and his intensity and motor speak well to this. As a 3-4 DE, I'd want him more in a 1-gap system (like Dallas runs) than a 2-gap system (like New England runs).

                4-3 LDE is probably his best position though.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
                  There are 10,0000 threads on him already, but once again...

                  Yes, he can play in a variety of schemes. The consensus seems to be he's best suited as a LDE in a 4-3 and Im inclined to agree with it. However, in the right scheme he could most definitely be a 5 tech.

                  Him and Heyward are different players. Heyward would play inside at the 3 tech in a 4-3 and at the 5 tech in a 3-4, similar to Richard Seymour. Clayborn is probably a bit more similar to Justin Smith, a guy I've compared to him on other occasions.

                  When it's all said and done, I think he goes in the Top 10. He's a better football player then Tyson Jackson was coming out.
                  What's the latest on Clayborn and his "health" issue? Where are our Iowa guys here?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post
                    When it's all said and done, I think he goes in the Top 10.
                    I could not disagree more with this statement. Clayborn was a disruptive player as a junior, but he was so bad last year. At times he appeared to be out of shape, and he really just isn't a pass rusher at all. He needs to gain some weight to play in most 3-4 defenses, and in a 4-3 he isn't quick or disruptive enough. All this combined with his character concerns and I think he's a 2nd round pick.


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by A Perfect Score View Post

                      When it's all said and done, I think he goes in the Top 10.
                      um what :O
                      my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
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                      <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                      <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                      Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                      What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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                      • #12
                        He'll go mid 1st.

                        Will Ballard sneak in? That's the question.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by J-Mike88 View Post
                          What's the latest on Clayborn and his "health" issue? Where are our Iowa guys here?
                          JMO Christian Ballard goes before Adrian Clayborn. Ballard's been working out like a freak lately.

                          Thats not to say some team doesn't get a steal with Clayborn but these two are trending in different directions.

                          according to the interwebz Clayborn allegedly had a condition called Erb's Palsy growing up it has effected the relative strength of his arms. One arm may be shorter than the other.

                          There's also a question about where he plays. Heyward is bulkier and can play anywhere, Clayborn might be a RDE in a 4-3 only.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bored of education View Post
                            um what :O
                            He said that a year ago, before Clayborn's senior season. Still would love him to the Bucs at 20 if the arm condition checks out medically.
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                            • #15
                              wow, I just noticed that post date. Sorry
                              my scent?...like making love to a lumberjack
                              <TACKLE> i will ngata give you a bj raji
                              <+BOE> Scott, with Burfict's character concerns (whether legit or not) you think Pioli would draft him. :D
                              <+ScottWright> Why not. Baldwin does need a sparring partner...
                              Originally posted by Hermstheman83
                              What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.

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