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  • Who Here Has Seen Pat Devlin Play?

    QB/Delaware.

    With so many teams needing a QB, 3/4 of the top four guys having huge question marks, and Christian Ponder sucking, someone surely has to step up, right?

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    First off i'd have Ponder and Foles in the mix as borderline 1st round or 2nd round types, and from what little i know of Devlin he probably trails that group.

    As for 3/4ths of the top 4 having serious concerns i would say probably less than we think. It's football not singing in the choir.

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    • #3
      ^Don't know what that last sentence means.

      I absolutely hate Ponder. He's not very good. Sure he's athletic and has leadership qualities but he's not accurate and he doesn't make good decisions. That's a recipe for disaster in the NFL.

      Don't have an opinion on Foles yet - never really viewed him as a potential QB for this draft.
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      • #4
        Pat Devlin's definitely no better than Ponder. He's accurate in his dink-and-dunk offense but doesn't appear to have an NFL caliber arm & has not shown the ability to play at a high level against top competition. Hopefully we see him at a Senior All-Star game. Just not overly impressed with him as an NFL prospect. No part of his game really stands out. A later round guy in my opinion.

        He went to High School around my area and was a pretty good college prospect, but I felt like people always overrated him as a pro candidate. He was a good HS QB, he turned out to be a pretty good FCS-level QB, but I don't think he's anything more than a #2 at best at the next level.

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        • #5
          I've seen Devlin play at both Penn State and Delaware. At Penn State, he looked a lot more like a pro-style QB. He has always had great mechanics and has made good decisions. He has really good short-to-intermediate accuracy but at the time Penn State's offense was hand the ball to Royster and throw downfield to D-Will and Deon Butler. Darryl Clark had better arm strength and was older so he got the starting job.

          Since coming to Delaware he's been working purely out of the shotgun but his mechanics are still awesome and Delaware adjusted its gameplan to fit his strengths. They run a short, quick passing game that takes advantage of Devlin's good decision making and quick release. He shows good zip on those passes and reads defenses really well. The downfall to this is that he RARELY throws passes over 15 yards and when he does, its hit or miss as he either has someone wide open and its a TD or he throws it away because coverage is tight. The combine is gonna be big for him so we can finally see how accurate those passes are and if he has good or great arm strength.

          All in all, Devlin is one of the smarter QBs, both in dissecting defenses and making good decisions. He has great mechanics and a quick release. Only thing to 'worry' about in that area is whether or not he can re-adjust to taking snaps under center. The Senior Bowl would have been huge for him because people question the competition level but I'm not too worried about that as he performed really well when spelling Clark during the year at Penn State. As of right now, I have him as the 5th best QB but that's more a result of everyone else performing poorly than him performing other-worldly. I'd take him in the 2nd if I needed a QB.

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          • #6
            Probably quite a few people, he was just on ESPN2 last weekend.

            There is a good chance I'll move Devlin ahead of Ponder in my next rankings update. Similar types of players, but Devlin doesn't have the durability issues.
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            • #7
              I've seen Devlin at Delaware, don't love him as an NFL prospect. Like people above me have said, a lot of the passing game at UD is short-intermediate passes. He makes good decisions with the football, has good mechanics, and can dissect a defense at the FCS level. However, he doesn't get tremendous zip and is inconsistent at best getting the ball down the field. If I'm watching a guy at a lower level school and he's not absolutely dominant and doesn't have special tools, I'm not sure I'd take him that early, and Devlin I think fits both of those. Probably profiles as a decent backup QB, but I'm not sure I see him starting in the NFL. I think he's overrated because he was at PSU and because of Flacco's success coming out of Delaware, they're two completely different prospects IMO. Now I could be flat out wrong, but that's my take.

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              • #8
                Devlin never really got a fair chance at Penn State.

                He does seem like a heady (10:1 TD:INT ratio), accurate QB with an average arm that'll need to prove himself vs. the big guys.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ThePudge View Post
                  Pat Devlin's definitely no better than Ponder. He's accurate in his dink-and-dunk offense but doesn't appear to have an NFL caliber arm & has not shown the ability to play at a high level against top competition. Hopefully we see him at a Senior All-Star game. Just not overly impressed with him as an NFL prospect. No part of his game really stands out. A later round guy in my opinion.

                  He went to High School around my area and was a pretty good college prospect, but I felt like people always overrated him as a pro candidate. He was a good HS QB, he turned out to be a pretty good FCS-level QB, but I don't think he's anything more than a #2 at best at the next level.
                  You're my hero Pudge. I've been saying this for awhile. His arm really isn't that good and that offense is among the spreadier of spreads. He doesn't place balls well despite his completion percentage. I don't see the advantages he offers even over a Scott Tolzien type.

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                  • #10
                    I've got to see Pat Devlin about 9 times live this year so far. If I compare him to what I saw when Joe Flacco was at UD, below is my comparison.

                    Important to note the following when comparing Devlin to Flacco.

                    Joe Flacco 2007 Stats

                    331 of 521 - 63.5% Completion
                    4263 yds 23 TDs to 5 INTs
                    QB Rating: 144.9
                    Defensive PPG: 27.1

                    Pat Devlin 2010 Stats

                    225-330 - 68.2% Completion
                    2675 yds 20 TDs to 2 INTs
                    QB Rating: 155.1
                    Defensive PPG: 11.6

                    While Flacco put up the gaudier stats, Devlin has actually been more efficient. Flacco in 2007 was playing in shoot outs where he was asked to throw the ball 50+ times. In 2010, Delaware features one of the best defensives in FCS (They were the last team in ALL of college football to surrender a TD this year). The defense is giving Devlin a much shorter field this year to work with and thus eliminating the need to go 80 yds every drive to score. Flacco only benefitted from a much more polished receiver corp then Devlin.

                    Devlin's arm strength is not what Flacco has and nor is his durability. Devlin will need to put about 10lbs of muscle on to get ready for the NFL. Devlin however must learn how to throw the ball away better and improve his pocket presence. Flacco and Devlin both played out of the same system with is 95% in shotgun. Devlin might be best suited for a West Coast Offense but I believe if he gets his chance at the Senior Bowl, he will be drafted in the late 2nd to early 3rd rounds.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BlueHens08 View Post
                      Devlin might be best suited for a West Coast Offense but I believe if he gets his chance at the Senior Bowl, he will be drafted in the late 2nd to early 3rd rounds.
                      I just wanted to highlight this part of your post. I want to see him play at the Senior Bowl because it means we'll get to learn more about the guy, we'll see what he's able to learn in a week of NFL coaching, and we'll see if he's on the level of his competition there. However, I don't necessarily think showcasing his talents would help his stock. Very few QBs actually elevate their stock in Mobile. The past few years I think the QBs on hand have only hurt themselves.

                      That said, I think he'll likely go into the draft process as a 4th Round prospect and come out a 5th-6th Rounder. That's a pretty gentle fall compared to most, but this isn't an FCS guy that has an overwhelming amount of talent and physical ability. He has average size, an average build, good accuracy, little experience against top competition, an average arm, average athletic ability, and he comes out of a QB-friendly shotgun system which has him dinking-and-dunking for four quarters. I just would have huge reservations taking a guy as high as the 2nd-3rd round when the guy didn't have the confidence/ability to make big plays with his arm at the FCS level.

                      I just don't think he's right there with guys like Stanzi and Ponder, two guys that grade out in the 3rd-4th Round range for me.

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                      • #12
                        Christian Ponder sucks

                        I don't know if Devlin is any good. I started watching his game last week but fell asleep midway through the first quarter after he had thrown the ball behind his receivers a bunch of times on 5 yard routes. After I woke up I checked the box score and his numbers looked good so maybe he isn't as bad as that sample

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                        • #13
                          Devlin is listed at 6'4, 220, so he's certainly not average size.

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                          • #14
                            I am a huge supporter of Pat Devlin. After watching him a boatload this year I would say he is a fringe 1st rounder. I have him rated int he 30-45 range. His arm, accuracy and ability to anticipate and throw to spots rather than just to open receivers is excellent. He does work in a spread but he just doenst throw to a wide open guy because its there, he makes reads and progressions on those reads and throws his receivers ope, often.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by underscore View Post
                              Devlin is listed at 6'4, 220, so he's certainly not average size.
                              Sure he is, he's about 6'3 215-225. He's very average in the size department, certainly wouldn't think to call him above average. But so was Tom Brady (if you want to think positively.) The guy is nothing impressive physically.

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