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  • Is the Senior Bowl Outdated?

    Just wondering if there's any chance someone starts up an all-star game that allows underclassmen soon. So many of the top players are underclassmen now. It's been this way for a while at many positions, but the recent trend of underclass QBs declaring has really reinforced it. I imagine many will decline the invite but not all, and they can still invite seniors as well - the East/West Shrine Bowl has plenty of talent there and with the right amount of monetary investment, this theoretical game could slot right into that #2 slot immediately with the possibility of overtaking the Senior Bowl depending on how many underclassmen accept

    Thoughts?

    Are the post-season games simply rewards for guys that stayed in school or should someone start a game for all eligible draftees?

  • #2
    I think at the very least a RS-Junior who declares should be eligible for the Senior Bowl-esque games.

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    • #3
      IDK, I look at the Senior Bowl as a right for seniors to get their name out there for a last time. I think prospects who declare early typically have already solidified their name out there, and I think it would only offer more incentive to entice kids to leave college early. Something that I don't think either side prefers.

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      • #4
        RS Juniors should be allowed to compete in Mobile. No real difference scholastically. Same graduating class and all.

        It would be nice to see underclassmen compete in post-season, but then again, that's sort of one of the advantages they have in terms of draft stock. Less is more sometimes for those guys.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Master Exploder View Post
          IDK, I look at the Senior Bowl as a right for seniors to get their name out there for a last time. I think prospects who declare early typically have already solidified their name out there, and I think it would only offer more incentive to entice kids to leave college early. Something that I don't think either side prefers.
          Goes both ways. If a senior player really wants to reinforce his name and get it out there, he should want to do it against the top junior talent, who as you said, have already solidified their names. Playing well against the top juniors would only make said senior look better.

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          • #6
            So you guys are saying maybe a better solution to this is to allow guys who have either exhausted their eligibility or have completed their degree to play in the Senior Bowl?

            I think that's fair, though I bet NFL scouts would rather get the opportunity to see anyone that has declared

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            • #7
              It really doesn't matter even if they were allowed to play. The top underclassmen come out because their stock is high so they don't need to play in an all-star game. The underclassmen that would be willing to play aren't very good and wouldn't get invited anyway.
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              • #8
                Mostly agreed but why not have a JR Bowl or something like that? Or something that evaluates just the JRs and SOs?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by toddmlazarchick View Post
                  Mostly agreed but why not have a JR Bowl or something like that? Or something that evaluates just the JRs and SOs?
                  You'd be lucky to have enough who entered the draft and want to play to even perform in it.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scott Wright View Post
                    It really doesn't matter even if they were allowed to play. The top underclassmen come out because their stock is high so they don't need to play in an all-star game. The underclassmen that would be willing to play aren't very good and wouldn't get invited anyway.
                    so youre telling me Gabbert or Mallett wouldn't show up to try to move up the pecking order? What about a guy like DeAndre Brown?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SchizophrenicBatman View Post
                      so youre telling me Gabbert or Mallett wouldn't show up to try to move up the pecking order? What about a guy like DeAndre Brown?
                      Brown or Doss or Gurley wouldn't be invited. I don't think Mallett or Gabbert would play.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SchizophrenicBatman View Post
                        so youre telling me Gabbert or Mallett wouldn't show up to try to move up the pecking order? What about a guy like DeAndre Brown?
                        Mallett or Gabbert? Definitely Not. Maybe a guy like Jevan Snead last year.

                        Late rounders and borderline prospects like DeAndre Brown might think about it. The problem is even guys like Brown have a higher opinion of their game / stock and probably wouldn't feel as if they needed to prove themselves. All underclassmen think they're going to be a first round pick.
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                        • #13
                          i dont see how DeAndre Brown is any worse of a flier than any of the 10 division III guys they invited this year

                          and I dont say that as a hater of those guys - Brown might be the next Colston/Mike Williams. Or he could be out of the league in a year. Playing in a post-season game would probably help nfl teams figure that out

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                          • #14
                            How about Shane Vereen? I feel like there are plenty of guys who would risk it. Maybe not a ton, but enough

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                            • #15
                              I think it's an over-generalization to say that the underclassmen would skip the Senior Bowl if they were eligible to play in it. If they were as locked in to where they thought they were going to be drafted as implied above, they would skip the combine as well.

                              I'd change the name from the Senior Bowl to the Declaration Bowl (bonus points with the media and fans for a patriotic name) and allow everyone who declared to be eligible for that year's draft to be selected for that week of instruction and game play.

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