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  • ThePudge's January Draft Work

    My rankings have obviously changed quite drastically as roughly 10 Underclassmen have been stripped from my board and we've now gotten through the college bowl season. The next update will be after the Senior Bowl and changes will be influenced by East-West Shrine practices and the practices down in Mobile. I decided to try something new, as I created rankings for each 3-4 position and separated Safeties as Free or Strong. I didn't bother with Kickers/Punters, but along with Return Specialists, they'll be added after the Senior Bowl. I once again am going to separate this post into the following few parts for easy navigation:
    • I. Position Rankings
    • II. Big Board (Top 100)
    • III. 2012 Seniors (Top 10)
    • IV. Mock Draft (1 Round)

    As always feedback is encouraged. By now you probably know that even if we disagree, I'm always willing to offer my take and explain where I'm coming from. Enjoy!

    I. Positional Rankings

    Quarterback
    1. Cameron Newton – Auburn*
    2. Jake Locker – Washington
    3. Ryan Mallett – Arkansas*
    4. Blaine Gabbert – Missouri*
    5. Christian Ponder – Florida State
    6. Andy Dalton – TCU
    7. Ricky Stanzi – Iowa
    8. Pat Devlin – Delaware
    9. Collin Kaepernick – Nevada
    10. Greg McElroy – Alabama
    11. Tyrod Taylor – Virginia Tech
    12. Nathan Enderle – Idaho
    13. T.J. Yates – North Carolina
    14. Jerrod Johnson – Texas A&M
    15. Scott Tolzien – Wisconsin

    Running Back
    1. Mark Ingram – Alabama*
    2. Mikel LeShoure – Illinois*
    3. Shane Vereen – California*
    4. Ryan Williams – Virginia Tech**
    5. Jordan Todman – Connecticut*
    6. DeMarco Murray – Oklahoma
    7. Jacquizz Rodgers – Oregon State*
    8. Kendall Hunter – Oklahoma State
    9. Taiwan Jones – Eastern Washington*
    10. Daniel Thomas – Kansas State
    11. Delone Carter – Syracuse
    12. Allen Bradford – USC
    13. Graig Cooper - Miami
    14. Dion Lewis – Pittsburgh*
    15. Darren Evans – Virginia Tech*
    16. Noel Devine – West Virginia
    17. Bilal Powell - Louisville
    18. Roy Helu – Nebraska
    19. John Clay – Wisconsin*
    20. Evan Royster – Penn State
    21. Derrick Locke – Kentucky
    22. Da’Rel Scott – Maryland
    23. Mario Fannin – Auburn
    24. Alex Green - Hawaii
    25. Anthony Allen – Georgia Tech

    Fullback
    1. Stanley Havilii – USC
    2. Henry Hynoski – Pittsburgh*
    3. Owen Marecic – Stanford
    4. Anthony Sherman – Connecticut
    5. Keith Payne - Virginia
    6. Preston Dial – Alabama (FB)
    7. Shaun Chapas – Georgia
    8. Charles Clay – Tulsa
    9. Robert Hughes – Notre Dame
    10. Brett Morse – Iowa

    Wide Receiver
    1. A.J. Green – Georgia*
    2. Julio Jones – Alabama*
    3. Randall Cobb – Kentucky*
    4. Torrey Smith – Maryland*
    5. Jonathan Baldwin – Pittsburgh*
    6. Leonard Hankerson – Miami
    7. Jerrel Jernigan – Troy
    8. Titus Young – Boise State
    9. Greg Little – North Carolina
    10. Ronald Johnson – USC
    11. Dwayne Harris – East Carolina
    12. Matt Sczcur – Villanova
    13. Niles Paul - Nebraska
    14. Tandon Doss – Indiana*
    15. Greg Salas - Hawaii
    16. Edmund Gates – Abilene Christian
    17. Terrance Tolliver - LSU
    18. Austin Pettis – Boise State
    19. Vincent Brown – San Diego State
    20. Derrell Johnson-Koulianos – Iowa
    21. Armon Binns – Cincinnati
    22. Cecil Shorts – Mount Union
    23. Jeremy Kerley – TCU
    24. Mark Dell – Michigan State
    25. DeAndre Brown – Southern Miss*
    26. Jeff Maehl – Oregon
    27. Jamel Hamler – Fresno State*
    28. Kealoha Pilares – Hawaii
    29. Tori Gurley – South Carolina*
    30. Dane Sanzenbacher – Ohio State

    Tight End
    1. Kyle Rudolph – Notre Dame*
    2. Lance Kendricks – Wisconsin
    3. D.J. Williams – Arkansas
    4. Luke Stocker – Tennessee
    5. Weslye Saunders – South Carolina
    6. Charlie Gantt – Michigan State
    7. Mike McNeill – Nebraska
    8. Lee Smith – Marshall
    9. Julius Thomas – Portland State
    10. Zack Pianalto – North Carolina
    11. Virgil Green – Nevada
    12. Allen Reisner – Iowa
    13. Andre Smith – Virginia Tech
    14. Rob Housler – Florida Atlantic
    15. Jordan Cameron - USC

    Offensive Tackle
    1. Tyron Smith – USC**
    2. Anthony Castonzo – Boston College
    3. Derek Sherrod – Mississippi State
    4. Nate Solder – Colorado
    5. Marcus Cannon – TCU
    6. Gabe Carimi – Wisconsin
    7. DeMarcus Love – Arkansas (OG)
    8. Orlando Franklin – Miami (OG)
    9. Jason Pinkston – Pittsburgh
    10. Lee Ziemba - Auburn
    11. Chris Hariston – Clemson
    12. Marcus Glibert - Florida
    13. Curt Porter – Jacksonville State
    14. James Brewer – Indiana
    15. Kyle Hix - Texas

    Offensive Guard
    1. Mike Pouncey – Florida
    2. Ben Ijalana – Villanova
    3. Danny Watkins – Baylor (OT)
    4. John Moffitt – Wisconsin
    5. Keith Williams – Nebraska
    6. Clint Boling – Georgia (OT)
    7. Stephen Schilling – Michigan
    8. James Carpenter - Alabama
    9. Andrew Jackson – Fresno State
    10. Justin Boren – Ohio State
    11. Zachary Hurd – Connecticut
    12. Bryant Browning – Ohio State
    13. Caleb Schlauderaff – Utah
    14. Zachary Williams – Washington State (C)
    15. Joseph Barksdale – LSU (OT)

    Center
    1. Stefan Wisniewski – Penn State
    2. Rodney Hudson – Florida State (OG)
    3. Kristofer O’Dowd – USC
    4. Tim Barnes – Missouri
    5. Alex Linnenkohl – Oregon State
    6. Brandon Fusco – Slippery Rock
    7. Zane Taylor – Utah
    8. Colin Baxter – Alabama
    9. Jake Kirkpatrick - TCU
    10. Ryan Bartholomew – Syracuse

    Defensive End
    1. Da’Quan Bowers – Clemson*
    2. Robert Quinn – North Carolina*
    3. Ryan Kerrigan – Purdue
    4. J.J. Watt – Wisconsin*
    5. Cameron Jordan – California (DT)
    6. Allen Bailey – Miami
    7. Adrian Clayborn – Iowa
    8. Aldon Smith – Missouri**
    9. Greg Romeus - Pittsburgh
    10. Cameron Heyward - Ohio State (DT)
    11. Christian Ballard – Iowa (DT)
    12. Jeremy Beal – Oklahoma
    13. Jabaal Sheard – Pittsburgh
    14. Sam Acho – Texas
    15. Pernell McPhee – Mississippi State
    16. Pierre Allen – Nebraska
    17. Cliff Matthews – South Carolina
    18. Ricky Elmore – Arizona
    19. Zane Parr – Virginia*
    20. Steven Friday - Virginia Tech

    3-4 Defensive End (5-Tech)
    1. Marcell Dareus – Alabama*
    2. Cameron Heyward – Ohio State
    3. Cameron Jordan – California
    4. J.J. Watt – DE – Wisconsin*
    5. Christian Ballard – Iowa
    6. Adrian Clayborn – Iowa
    7. Allen Bailey - Miami
    8. Lawrence Guy – Arizona State
    9. Muhammed Wilkerson – Temple
    10. Pernell McPhee – Mississippi State

    Defensive Tackle
    1. Nick Fairley – Auburn*
    2. Marcell Dareus - Alabama* (DE)
    3. Drake Nevis – LSU
    4. Stephen Paea – Oregon State
    5. Corey Liuget – Illinois*
    6. Muhammed Wilkerson – Temple*
    7. Jurrell Casey – USC*
    8. Phil Taylor – Baylor
    9. Lawrence Guy – Arizona State*
    10. Jerrell Powe – Mississippi
    11. Jarvis Jenkins – Clemson
    12. Marvin Austin – North Carolina
    13. Kenrick Ellis – Hampton
    14. Sione Fua – Stanford
    15. Ian Williams – Notre Dame

    Nose Tackle
    1. Stephen Paea – Oregon State
    2. Phil Taylor – Baylor
    3. Jerrell Powe – Mississippi
    4. Kenrick Ellis – Hampton
    5. Sione Fua – Stanford

    3-4 Outside Linebacker
    1. Robert Quinn – North Carolina*
    2. Justin Houston – Georgia*
    3. Von Miller – Texas A&M
    4. Ryan Kerrigan – Purdue
    5. Jeremy Beal - Oklahoma
    6. Dontay Moch – Nevada
    7. Aldon Smith – Missouri*
    8. Tom Kaiser – Stanford*
    9. Chris Carter – Fresno State
    10. Brooks Reed - Arizona

    Outside Linebacker
    1. Akeem Ayers – UCLA*
    2. Martez Wilson – Illinois*
    3. Mason Foster – Washington (MLB)
    4. Bruce Carter – North Carolina
    5. Justin Houston – Georgia*
    6. Von Miller – Texas A&M
    7. Mark Herzlich – Boston College
    8. K.J. Wright – Mississippi State
    9. Ross Homas – Ohio State (MLB)
    10. Lawrence Wilson – Connecticut (MLB)
    11. Doug Hogue – Syracuse
    12. Brian Rolle – Ohio State
    13. Adrian Moten – Maryland
    14. Quentin Davie – Northwestern
    15. Wayne Daniels – TCU

    3-4 Inside Linebacker
    1. Akeem Ayers – UCLA*
    2. Martez Wilson – Illinois*
    3. Mark Herzlich – Boston College
    4. Quan Sturdivant – North Carolina
    5. K.J. Wright – Mississippi State
    6. Greg Jones – Michigan State
    7. Kelvin Sheppard - LSU
    8. Chris White – Mississippi State
    9. Josh Bynes – Auburn
    10. Nate Irving – North Carolina State

    Middle Linebacker
    1. Quan Sturdivant – North Carolina
    2. Greg Jones – Michigan State
    3. Kelvin Sheppard – LSU (OLB)
    4. Nate Irving – North Carolina State (OLB)
    5. Colin McCarthy – Miami
    6. Casey Matthews – Oregon
    7. Chris White – Mississippi State
    8. John Bynes – Auburn
    9. Mike Mohammed - California
    10. Alex Wujciak – Maryland

    Cornerback
    1. Patrick Peterson – LSU*
    2. Prince Amukamara – Nebraska
    3. Brandon Harris – Miami*
    4. Jimmy Smith – Colorado
    5. Aaron Williams – Texas*
    6. Brandon Burton – Utah*
    7. Ras-I Dowling – Virginia
    8. Johnny Patrick – Louisville
    9. Davon House – New Mexico State
    10. Brandon Hogan – West Virginia
    11. Curtis Brown – Texas
    12. Chimdi Chekwa – Ohio State
    13. Chris Rucker – Michigan State
    14. Marcus Gilchrist – Clemson (FS)
    15. Shareece Wright – USC
    16. Kendric Burney – North Carolina
    17. Rashad Carmichael – Virginia Tech
    18. Korey Lindsey – Southern Illinois
    19. Curtis Marsh – Utah State
    20. Chykie Brown – Texas

    Free Safety
    1. Rahim Moore – UCLA*
    2. Deunta Williams – North Carolina
    3. Quinton Carter – Oklahoma
    4. Robert Sands – West Virginia*
    5. Jaiquawn Jarrett – Temple
    6. Eugene Clifford – Tennessee State
    7. Will Hill – Florida*
    8. Jay Valai – Wisconsin
    9. Tejay Johnson - TCU
    10. Eric Hagg - Nebraska

    Strong Safety
    1. DeAndre McDaniel – Clemson
    2. Ahmad Black – Florida
    3. Jeron Johnson – Boise State
    4. Tyler Sash – Iowa*
    5. Jermale Hines – Ohio State
    6. Joe Lefeged – Rutgers
    7. Nate Williams – Washington
    8. Justin Taplin-Ross – Utah
    9. Duke Ihenacho – San Jose State
    10. Shiloh Keo - Idaho


    II. Big Board (Top 100)

    1. A.J. Green – WR – Georgia*
    2. Da’Quan Bowers – DE – Clemson*
    3. Patrick Peterson – CB – LSU*
    4. Cameron Newton – QB – Auburn*
    5. Nick Fairley – DT – Auburn*
    6. Julio Jones – WR – Alabama*
    7. Marcell Dareus – DL – Alabama*
    8. Robert Quinn – DE – North Carolina*
    9. Prince Amukamara – CB – Nebraska
    10. Ryan Kerrigan – DE – Purdue
    11. Mark Ingram – RB – Alabama*
    12. J.J. Watt – DE – Wisconsin*
    13. Cameron Jordan – DE – California
    14. Jake Locker – QB – Washington
    15. Cameron Heyward – DE – Ohio State
    16. Justin Houston – OLB – Georgia*
    17. Ryan Mallett – QB – Arkansas*
    18. Tyron Smith – OT – USC**
    19. Akeem Ayers – LB – UCLA*
    20. Anthony Castonzo – OT – Boston College
    21. Kyle Rudolph – TE – Notre Dame*
    22. Von Miller – OLB – Texas A&M
    23. Blaine Gabbert – QB - Missouri
    24. Derek Sherrod – OT – Mississippi State
    25. Nate Solder – OT – Colorado
    26. Brandon Harris – CB – Miami*
    27. Allen Bailey – DE – Miami
    28. Adrian Clayborn – DE – Iowa
    29. Mikel LeShoure – RB – Illinois*
    30. Martez Wilson – LB – Illinois*
    31. Jimmy Smith – CB – Colorado
    32. Randall Cobb – WR – Kentucky*
    33. Marcus Cannon – OT – TCU
    34. Gabe Carimi – OT – Wisconsin
    35. Drake Nevis – DT – LSU
    36. Stephen Paea – DT – Oregon State
    37. Quan Sturdivant – ILB – North Carolina
    38. Corey Liuget – DT – Illinois*
    39. Torrey Smith – WR – Maryland*
    40. Mason Foster – OLB – Washington
    41. Rahim Moore – FS – UCLA*
    42. Aaron Williams – CB – Texas*
    43. Shane Vereen – RB – California*
    44. Christian Ballard – DL – Iowa
    45. Lance Kendricks – TE – Wisconsin
    46. Ryan Williams – RB – Virginia Tech**
    47. Bruce Carter – OLB – North Carolina
    48. Jonathan Baldwin – WR – Pittsburgh*
    49. Stefan Wisniewski – C – Penn State
    50. Aldon Smith – DE – Missouri**

    51. Mike Pouncey – OG - Florida
    52. Muhammed Wilkerson – DT – Temple*
    53. Jordan Todman – RB – Connecticut*
    54. DeMarcus Love – OL - Arkansas
    55. Leonard Hankerson – WR – Miami
    56. Jerel Jernigan – WR – Troy
    57. Orlando Franklin – OT - Miami
    58. Deunta Williams – FS – North Carolina
    59. Jurrell Casey – DT – USC*
    60. Brandon Burton – CB – Utah*
    61. DeAndre McDaniel – SS – Clemson
    62. Greg Romeus – DE - Pittsburgh
    63. D.J. Williams – TE – Arkansas
    64. Jeremy Beal – DE - Oklahoma
    65. Luke Stocker – TE – Tennessee
    66. DeMarco Murray – RB – Oklahoma
    67. Titus Young – WR – Boise State
    68. Ben Ijalana – OG – Villanova
    69. Mark Herzlich – LB – Boston College
    70. Phil Taylor – NT – Baylor
    71. Jabaal Sheard – DE - Pittsburgh
    72. Dontay Moch – OLB – Nevada
    73. Ras-I Dowling – CB – Virginia
    74. Greg Little – WR – North Carolina
    75. Lawrence Guy – DT – Arizona State
    76. Christian Ponder – QB – Florida State
    77. Jacquizz Rodgers – RB – Oregon State*
    78. Johnny Patrick – CB – Louisville
    79. Rodney Hudson – C – Florida State
    80. Greg Jones – ILB – Michigan State
    81. Danny Watkins – OG – Baylor
    82. Davon House – CB – New Mexico State
    83. Sam Acho – DE – Texas
    84. Kelvin Sheppard – LB - LSU
    85. K.J. Wright – OLB – Mississippi State
    86. Quinton Carter – FS - Oklahoma
    87. Nate Irving – ILB – North Carolina State
    88. Kendall Hunter – RB – Oklahoma State
    89. Brandon Hogan – CB – West Virginia
    90. Curtis Brown – CB – Texas
    91. John Moffitt – OG – Wisconsin
    92. Ahmad Black – SS - Florida
    93. Andy Dalton – QB - TCU
    94. Keith Williams – OG – Nebraska
    95. Jason Pinkston – OT – Pittsburgh
    96. Ronald Johnson – WR - USC
    97. Pernell McPhee – DE – Mississippi State
    98. Colin McCarthy – MLB – Miami
    99. Clint Boling – OL - Georgia
    100. Ricky Stanzi – QB - Iowa


    III. 2012 Seniors

    1. Michael Floyd – WR – Notre Dame
    2. Ryan Broyles – WR - Oklahoma
    3. Janoris Jenkins – CB – Florida
    4. Jared Crick – DT - Nebraska
    5. Kenny Tate – FS – Maryland
    6. Cordy Glenn – OG – Georgia
    7. Mark Barron – SS - Alabama
    8. Greg Childs – WR – Arkansas
    9. Quinton Coples – DE – North Carolina
    10. Courtney Upshaw – ILB - Alabama


    IV. Mock Draft

    1. Carolina Panthers: Nick Fairley - DT - Auburn
    2. Denver Broncos: Da'Quan Bowers - DE - Clemson
    3. Buffalo Bills: Cameron Newton - QB - Auburn
    4. Cincinnati Bengals: A.J. Green - WR - Georgia
    5. Arizona Cardinals: Patrick Peterson - CB - LSU
    6. Cleveland Browns: Julio Jones - WR - Alabama
    7. San Francisco 49ers: Jake Locker - QB - Washington
    8. Tennessee Titans: Ryan Mallett - QB - Arkansas
    9. Dallas Cowboys: Marcell Dareus - DE - Alabama
    10. Washington Redskins: Cameron Heyward - DE - Ohio State
    11. Houston Texans: Robert Quinn - DE/OLB - North Carolina
    12. Minnesota Vikings: Blaine Gabbert - QB - Missouri
    13. Detroit Lions: Prince Amukamara - CB - Nebraska
    14. St. Louis Rams: Ryan Kerrigan - DE - Purdue
    15. Miami Dolphins: Mark Ingram - RB - Alabama
    16. Jacksonville Jaguars: J.J. Watt - DE - Wisconsin
    17. New England Patriots (f/OAK): Cameron Jordan - DE - California
    18. San Diego Chargers: Justin Houston - OLB - Georgia
    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Allen Bailey - DE - Miami
    20. New York Giants: Tyron Smith - OT - USC
    21. Kansas City Chiefs: Martez Wilson - ILB - Illinois
    22. Indianapolis Colts: Nate Solder - OT - Colorado
    23. Philadelphia Eagles: Akeem Ayers - OLB - UCLA
    24. New Orleans Saints: Stephen Paea - DT - Oregon State
    25. Seattle Seahawks: Brandon Harris - CB - Miami
    26. New York Jets: Von Miller - OLB - Texas A&M
    27. Baltimore Ravens: Jimmy Smith - CB - Colorado
    28. Chicago Bears: Anthony Castonzo - OT - Boston College
    29. Atlanta Falcons: Kyle Rudolph - TE - Notre Dame
    30. Pittsburgh Steelers: Marcus Cannon - OG/OT - TCU
    31. Green Bay Packers: Mikel LeShoure - RB - Illinois
    32. New England Patriots: Torrey Smith - WR - Maryland
    Last edited by ThePudge; 01-16-2011, 04:23 PM.

    big props to BoneKrusher for the sig & avatar
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  • #2
    Your rankings could be improved by including guys in multiple categories. Ther'es a little bit of it on defensive with the defensive end and 3-4 defensive end categories, but I was confused by it. Does including guys like Dareus and Heyward in the "defensive end" category mean you're projecting them as potential 4-3 ends? I'd suggest inserting everyone into as many positions as possible. You list DeMarcus Love and Orlando Franklin at OT, but include (OG) at the end, which is fine, but I'd also like to see where you rank them in the offensive guard category, if that makes sense. I'd suggest something like that for the entire rankings, since the way it's done right now doesn't give any context as to how well those guys project. The round projections you used to include were cool too. Other than that the rankings look pretty good. Christian Ballard missing from the defensive tackle category was something I noticed. Hopefully this helps.

    P.S. Torrey Smith can't run routes and I doubt the Patriots draft someone like that early, especially with a wealth of passing options already and a couple developmental guys in Tate/Price.

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    • #3
      Nice work, appreciate your insight.

      Thanks for sharing
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      • #4
        Nice work as always the Pudge.I think your top 2 QB 's will change after the senior bowl and Locker should be #1 again ( crossing fingers for SF pick ) I still don't see the hype for Newton being the top pick at QB .Everyone else seems to be in the right spot. Love the Mock draft as well.If Locker is there at 7th I really do think SF and the coaching staff will want their own young QB stud who they cold mold into their offense and perform good in .Tho by some small chance I see them taking another WR if Jones or Green falls to them we could us another big play person who is taller then 6'2" . This also a nice lay out well put together too.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RavenOfProphecy View Post
          Your rankings could be improved by including guys in multiple categories. Ther'es a little bit of it on defensive with the defensive end and 3-4 defensive end categories, but I was confused by it. Does including guys like Dareus and Heyward in the "defensive end" category mean you're projecting them as potential 4-3 ends? I'd suggest inserting everyone into as many positions as possible. You list DeMarcus Love and Orlando Franklin at OT, but include (OG) at the end, which is fine, but I'd also like to see where you rank them in the offensive guard category, if that makes sense. I'd suggest something like that for the entire rankings, since the way it's done right now doesn't give any context as to how well those guys project. The round projections you used to include were cool too. Other than that the rankings look pretty good. Christian Ballard missing from the defensive tackle category was something I noticed. Hopefully this helps.

          P.S. Torrey Smith can't run routes and I doubt the Patriots draft someone like that early, especially with a wealth of passing options already and a couple developmental guys in Tate/Price.
          First time I've included 3-4 rankings, so there are some inconsistencies. I tried to fix the errors in there. I moved Dareus to Tackle, as I believe a 4-3 team would play him there. Heyward I kept with the ends, though I moved him down because that's not his best fit. Ballard is a true DT/DE tweener, like Heyward, and in a 4-3 scheme teams could go either way so I listed him as a 4-3 End but acknowledged his potential fit at Tackle in that scheme.

          I think Love probably fits best at Guard, where I think Franklin is a better fit at Tackle. Were I to include them with the Guards, I'd rank Love 2nd (behind Pouncey), Franklin 3rd (behind Ijalana.)

          Around Combine time I'll be including the round projections. I'm waiting on the All-Star games for that. Everything gets more thorough the closer we get to draft day.

          big props to BoneKrusher for the sig & avatar
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          • #6
            Love the Locker pick to the niners.
            Originally posted by 49erNation85
            I dunno even half of those guys why did we sign them jeez.

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            • #7
              I can dig Gabbert. Good work as always, Pudge.

              Bonekrusher.

              Originally posted by JordanTaber
              Football...it's rocket surgery now, folks.

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              • #8
                I can live with Paea with the Saints although I would rather Von Miller.

                Beastly sig by BoneKrusher

                Super Bowl XLIV Champions
                WHO DAT!

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                • #9
                  love randall cobb as the #3 wr. he is the definition of a playmaker.


                  RIP, Sean Taylor.

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                  • #10
                    I thought Tampa had the 20th pick in the 1st. Would rather have Ayers than Bailey. We already have a bunch of guys that can play LE and UT. IMO

                    Great work, though.

                    "I don't do Pro Days, we send our scouts to those. I would rather spend my time watching film. The eye in the sky never lies. Functional Strength and athletic ability are the first things we look for in a college prospect." - Mark Dominik, Buccaneers GM

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                    • #11
                      Pudge Do u think Marcell Dareus could be the pick for Bengals at 4 and do u see him as a 4-3 UT?


                      RIP themaninblack

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pat Sims 90 View Post
                        Pudge Do u think Marcell Dareus could be the pick for Bengals at 4 and do u see him as a 4-3 UT?
                        If AJ Green and Fairley are gone, I think that would be the most likely pick.

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                        • #13
                          I don't know why everyone has Bowers as the consensus #1 DE.

                          I've studied some game tape of his recently and have come away unimpressed. He has some decent physical ability, but he's not dominant, and his effort on a down-by-down basis leaves me unimpressed.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pat Sims 90 View Post
                            Pudge Do u think Marcell Dareus could be the pick for Bengals at 4 and do u see him as a 4-3 UT?
                            He could be, but I'm not sure they want a defensive guy at 4th Overall. I'm pretty convinced they'll be targeting WR all the way in the 1st Round as I think helping Carson will be the #1 priority of the offseason. It's clear this team needs a premier talent at the position for their passing game to be as effective as it's capable of being. I think it's clear T.O. will not be back next season and I don't think it's guaranteed that the team will pick up Chad's 6 mil. option. I think A.J. Green at #4 may be one of the most predictable picks in this draft as I really don't see Carolina, Denver, or Buffalo going in that direction.

                            I just see too much youth and talent at DT, with Peko, Pat Sims, and Geno Atkins all serving individual roles. Sure, they could use an improvement but is it really necessary up there when there are gaping holes on offense. Linebacker is an option, but value seems to be in the Second Round if that's a route they choose to go. Cornerback and Running Back will become holes if the team can't re-sign Johnathan Joseph and Cedric Benson.

                            A Free Safety will surely be high on the team's priority list again with the rest of the division fielding difference-maker's at the position (T.J. Ward, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu.) The team is especially short on talent, youth, and stability at the Safety position.

                            Offensive Guard will be an option on Day Two (Rounds 2-3) as the line could certainly use an upgrade in pass-protection, talent, and youth. The Bengals tend to like big, versatile linemen and this draft has a few that fit the bill.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bullg8rdaddy View Post
                              I thought Tampa had the 20th pick in the 1st. Would rather have Ayers than Bailey. We already have a bunch of guys that can play LE and UT. IMO

                              Great work, though.
                              Aldon Smith would definitely be higher on my wish list as well. If not Smith, then I'd rather project Von Miller to RDE for us and hope that he has a little of that Mathis/Freeney magic.

                              In his defense, we do have LDE and UTs... but none of the LDEs are particularly good. Crowder, Bennett, and Magee all flashed a little bit at LDE but I don't think an upgrade out there would hurt... but my fear is that ALlen Bailey is more physical specimen than difference maker.

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