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    are not the top four selected? Nobody seems to even be considering the fact that one of the guys could plummet BIG time and some dark horse like Andy Dalton or Ricky Stanzi could jump one or even two of the hot names right now.

    Personally, I think there is a very small chance all four go in the first round, and after that, teams tend to choose QBs based on their own preference. Can you honestly not imagine a WCO liking Dalton more than, say, Ryan Mallett?

  • #2
    Look at the board...people are considering it a whole lot lol.

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    • #3
      The thing with projecting guys like Stanzi and Dalton into the first round is why would you if teams can get them later. As much as we crap on the supposed top 4 they all bring some real skills to the table. All have good size, good to great arms and except for Mallett some rare mobility.

      Having said all that one of these guys could drop out of the 1st round if some character issues were to turn teams off but as far as need goes just go down the list. The whole league is pretty much looking for QBs.

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      • #4
        Don't worry. The Redskins and a few others will gamble on QB's.

        I'm not impressed with this QB class at all. Newton way down the road and what else ? Gabbert looked very ordinary the 7-8 times I saw him play.

        I suppose someone could surprise later but I'm not seeing much now.

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        • #5
          i mean, guys like Dalton end up in the first round

          just generally not in years when there are 4 QBs with supposed 1st round grades.

          i could see him (or whoever) going above a Mallett...in the second round

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SchizophrenicBatman View Post
            i mean, guys like Dalton end up in the first round

            just generally not in years when there are 4 QBs with supposed 1st round grades.

            i could see him (or whoever) going above a Mallett...in the second round
            Feel free to list a few.

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            • #7
              Rex Grossman

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              • #8
                I still think that in 10 years from now all said and done...Ricki Stanzi will be the best QB of the class.

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                • #9
                  JP Losman

                  i mean now that I think about it you really need a stronger arm than Dalton has to sneak into that range but there were a lot of people who thought Clausen was a 1st rounder on this site

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DBNYDP View Post
                    I still think that in 10 years from now all said and done...Ricki Stanzi will be the best QB of the class.
                    I don't blame this on him obviously, but I'm still a bit scarred from seeing some of the worst 2 minute playcalling I've ever seen anywhere by Iowa this season. It made Andy Reid look like a clock management genius....crossing routes that pick up 5 yards but blow 20 seconds? Yikes....I would have loved to see what Stanzi could do in a better situation.

                    To the main topic, is it possible? Absolutely. Do I think it will happen? Ehhhh.....I don't think so.

                    If nothing else, there is a ton of potential in Gabbert, Mallett, Newton and Locker that will attract teams in the first round...worst case, early 2nd round.

                    The next "tier" is made up of guys like Stanzi, Dalton, Ponder, and Devlin (who had a blegh East/West game today I've read.) Guys that....don't have the same level of potential. You could argue that any of them have higher floors and at worst, might make solid game managers, but NFL teams don't typically draft those guys higher than they need to.

                    I think the Top 4 will be the Top 4 in the end, barring something wildly unforeseen.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Babylon View Post
                      Feel free to list a few.
                      Patrick Ramsey ;) Washington

                      But the main point is for this year...

                      I don't see it. Mallett, Locker, and Newton aren't just First Round prospects, they are QBs with some key Franchise QB qualities who people have questions about (mostly with Mallett and Locker, it's Michael Oher Syndrome). I've got all three going in the Top 5 and Gabbert (who I agree looks ordinary) going in the Top 12 or so...
                      Last edited by nepg; 01-22-2011, 08:37 PM.

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                      • #12
                        First four QB selected doesn't have to mean they're all taken in the 1st round.

                        I think there's a good chance 1 QB of the top four doesn't go in the first, actually.
                        Last edited by FUNBUNCHER; 01-22-2011, 09:21 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BeerBaron View Post
                          I don't blame this on him obviously, but I'm still a bit scarred from seeing some of the worst 2 minute playcalling I've ever seen anywhere by Iowa this season. It made Andy Reid look like a clock management genius....crossing routes that pick up 5 yards but blow 20 seconds? Yikes....I would have loved to see what Stanzi could do in a better situation.

                          To the main topic, is it possible? Absolutely. Do I think it will happen? Ehhhh.....I don't think so.

                          If nothing else, there is a ton of potential in Gabbert, Mallett, Newton and Locker that will attract teams in the first round...worst case, early 2nd round.

                          The next "tier" is made up of guys like Stanzi, Dalton, Ponder, and Devlin (who had a blegh East/West game today I've read.) Guys that....don't have the same level of potential. You could argue that any of them have higher floors and at worst, might make solid game managers, but NFL teams don't typically draft those guys higher than they need to.

                          I think the Top 4 will be the Top 4 in the end, barring something wildly unforeseen.
                          That playcalling all lies in the hands of Iowa OC KOK. They tightened the reins on Stanzi to a point where you could tell he wasnt even comfortable with the situation. The year before he made countless plays in the situation but to combat his risk taking, they shackled his moxie. I truly believe if the right team drafts him and gets him under proper tutelage, He could be the best QB in this draft. Iowa doesnt have a true QB coach as the OC KOK is the qb coach as well(and a bad one). Given Ferentz's past connections with Belicheck, I could see the Pats grab Stanzi in the 3rd-5th round, sit him behind Brady and develop him into a formidable QB replacement. His size, demeanor, and mechanics are very similar to Brady and his skillset is underappreciated by many that didnt follow Iowa all that much. He wasnt given any favors by some of the playcalling this past season even though his numbers were good. Ferentz and KOK received a lot of flack for it.

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                          • #14
                            I think so, workouts always change this kind of stuff alot. If someone shows a lack of work ethic or just tests poorly and another guy does great it might not even be a surprise by then.

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                            • #15
                              Some of those guys are two years older than Blaine Gabbert. Take that into account.

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