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  • Do the Teams That Need a Quarterback From 7-16...

    ..move back into the late-first to get a better value for one of these guys?

    I'm not sure of how many teams have ever moved back and selected a quarterback with that pick, especially in the first few rounds.

    I say this under the assumption that Newton and Gabbert go top-5, but even if one or both of them fall further than that there are still 6 teams (SF, TEN, WAS, MIN, MIA, JAC) that need a QB between 7 and 16. At this point Mallet and Ponder are big reaches in that area, and some would say the same about Locker.

    Is this the year that rather than teams trading up from the top of the 2nd to scoop up a falling quarterback in the 20's, they'll trade back into that range to not reach for a guy with a lot of question marks?

    A lot of people have 2 or all 3 of these guys somewhere in the 2nd, and while they're not necessarily well regarded as promising late-1st round QBs, it's really only because the playoffs teams obviously wouldn't sniff any of them.

    With a lot of the teams picking from 20-32 probably salivating over the D-linemen projected in the top-15, I think it's extremely likely that a team like Washington moves down to get picks and grabs a guy like Locker late in the first.
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    Admit it. You consider this move because your team is drafting late and you want a shot at a top defender in this draft.
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    • #3
      Probably about 20 rookies will grade out with first-round picks when the analysis is all said and done. I can't see anyone dealing out of those spots unless a too-stupid-to-refuse offer is put on the table.

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      • #4
        SF won't be taking a QB in round one period.Specially if PP,Miller,Quinn or even a DT is there.So you really only take a stab at Tenn who are hurting for a QB.But both QB could be a VY situation if not coached right or groomed right.

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        • #5
          I'm thinking that there are a number of teams from about 26-32 who will be happy to move back to a high second for a reasonable price if somebody wants to jump up and grab Locker, Mallet, or Ponder.

          Considering that the second round now starts on a different day, how hilarious will it be the first time a team picking at #32 trades back. If they have a "draft party" at the stadium, imagine the mood when that trade is announced.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ellsy82 View Post
            Admit it. You consider this move because your team is drafting late and you want a shot at a top defender in this draft.
            I'm an Eagle fan, unless we trade Kolb to move up (in which case the team trading back obviously wouldn't be picking a QB) I haven't thought much about moving up for a lineman. If we didn't draft Graham last year definitely, but sitting where we are or moving back are much more likely
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            • #7
              Originally posted by PossibleCabbage View Post
              I'm thinking that there are a number of teams from about 26-32 who will be happy to move back to a high second for a reasonable price if somebody wants to jump up and grab Locker, Mallet, or Ponder.
              I absolutely agree. I could see a team like the Ravens, Chicago, or any of those teams missing out on a player and dropping back. Maybe move back into the top portion of the second and grab one of the OTs that falls.

              I personally don't see that many players that I consider a great value at 26 for the Ravens. If we miss out on the corner we want, then we can drop back into the second, grab some picks, and snag a RT.


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              • #8
                There will be a run on QBs from picks 25 - 32.

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                • #9
                  Yeah, I think a lot of teams will try to trade up back into the first. Like you said, a lot of teams need QBs. I think those mid-1st teams that miss out of Gabbert and Newton will try to leapfrog each other to get the QB they want, between Ponder, Mallett, and Locker (if he doesn't go early).

                  If the Bears are faced with a draft board with none of the top 5 OTs, no Pouncey, no Liuget, I would prefer they trade down with a QB starved team and get an extra pick. I think they could still have their choice of Ijalana, Cannon, Wisnewski, Franklin, Paea, Austin, or Nevis if they trade back into the late 30s to early 40s. Plus, if they can get another pick in the top 100-110, they can possibly add a RB or CB to their draft.

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                  • #10
                    I see it the other way... we could be looking at all the QBs gone by 20. There's huge demand and no supply.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bitonti View Post
                      I see it the other way... we could be looking at all the QBs gone by 20. There's huge demand and no supply.
                      If Mallet, Locker, and Ponder go in the top 20... something is seriously wrong, and those teams picking in the bottom of the first will have some very good players fall to them.

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                      • #12
                        In the last 20 years, can you name the QBs taken in the second round (from around pick 30 to pick 64) that are classifiable as franchise QBs?

                        I can. Brett Favre and Drew Brees. That's literally every one over 20 years. Elite QB prospects do not fall. If they do, they are the Brady Quinns and Jimmy Clausens. Aaron Rodgers was picked by the Packers because once an elite QB falls to a certain point (the high 20s), the good (smart) teams start drafting and will take elite QB prospects.

                        "Just take a QB later" is the single dumbest draft strategy ever.
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                        • #13
                          Thing is, I think only 2 QBs are going to be drafted in the top 10, although only 1 really deserves too (Gabbert). If they both go in the top 5, which is possible, I think you'll see some teams like Washington try to move down in the draft instead of reaching for Locker at 10 or Minnesota doing the same at 12.

                          Honestly, I really only like 3 QBs in this draft. Gabbert, Kapernick, and Dalton. Pondner I am really unsure of. He had a great Senior Bowl, but didn't impress throughout his Senior Year (yeah he was hurt, but even before that). He might be best fit for Seattle at 25 because of the WCO and he has shown above average Arm Strength so I think he can be a solid starter.

                          I think Locker, Mallett and Newton are all going to be flops in the NFL. I just don't like Newton's attitude and many teams were not impressed of his knowledge of the game and of reading defenses. He came from an offense where he made easy reads. (Gimmick spread offenses). I don't know how he'll adjust to the NFL level or whether he has the mentality to do so.

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                          • #14
                            Gabbert is the only QB that should have a chance to go top 10.

                            I hope SF stays put and takes Christian Ponder or Andy Dalton in rd 2. I can't see 6 QBs being taken before pick #45, so one of them should be there for the taking. I wouldn't trust Locker, Mallett, or Newton enough in the top half of round 1.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FUNBUNCHER View Post
                              There will be a run on QBs from picks 25 - 32.
                              Also a run from 8-12.

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