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    ive been confused about something since draft day...

    why did the Cowboys ( i think it was them) allow cleveland to make a deal to take Brady Quinn with the 22nd pick in the first round?

    Cowboys could have used Quinn as a QB. i was so confused by that. what did the whole agreement between the Cowboys and Browns consist of that allowed the Browns to take Quinn in the first round? Thanks

  • #2
    They had/have confidence in Romo and Cleveland's #1 next year has a lot of potential.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TouchdownUSC View Post
      ive been confused about something since draft day...

      why did the Cowboys ( i think it was them) allow cleveland to make a deal to take Brady Quinn with the 22nd pick in the first round?

      Cowboys could have used Quinn as a QB. i was so confused by that. what did the whole agreement between the Cowboys and Browns consist of that allowed the Browns to take Quinn in the first round? Thanks
      Well the Cowboys believe to have their franchise guy on roster, him being Tony Romo, which makes Quinn a useless pick for them. Next thing is that the value the Browns offered, an '08 first-round pick, is enormous, considering the browns are most likely picking somewhere between places 5 and 15 next year (let's be nice to the Browns). So it was a good trade for both teams, Cowboys got a top 15 pick next year and the browns got themselves a potential franchise quarterback.

      Now it all hangs on Quinn, if he busts or doesn't turn into a very solid guy, the Browns look stupid, if he does turn out to be very good, then it's a very fair trade.

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      • #4
        The Cowboys got great value and have plenty of confidence in Tony Romo beinf their man. They also had other needs, and they will be having 2 1st round picks (one of them having a 90% chance of being a top 10 pick)

        I think it was logical.

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        • #5
          Sounds like a fair deal

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          • #6
            As other people have already mentioned they wanted to show Romo that they have the confidence in him to be their starting QB, but one scenario that nobody has mentioned is Julius Jones. He is going to be a free agent after the season. There is talk of Marion Barber becoming more of the feature back this year, so they will likely not resign Jones. I can see them using one of their 2 first round pick, preferably the Browns since that will be the higher one, to trade up and grab Mcfadden. Jones has put up solid numbers, but Cowboys should not pass up oppurtunity to get Mcfadden and then they won't have to resign Jones.

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            • #7
              Cowboys got lucky with the deal. I know the Browns contacted the Giants about the #20 pick. But didn't offer the same deal the Cowboys got. Meaning the first rounder in 08 wasn't offered to us. The reason it was offered to the Cowboys was because the Browns got nervous Baltimore was going to trade up and grab Quinn. Baltimore had little ammunition to move up because of a lack of a second round pick, but once Quinn dropped to #24 the Browns realized the Ravens didn't need much more than a 3rd rounder to move up from #29 and would need less if Quinn dropped to #25 or 26.

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              • #8
                the cowboys think romo can be their QB and the browns gave them a really good deal



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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TouchdownUSC View Post
                  Sounds like a fair deal
                  It is, unless of course Quinn turns out to be a bust, basically you can tell if someone likes Quinn or not by reading their reaction to the trade, if they feel the Browns gave up too much, they're obviously thinking Quinn was and is overrated, if they feel like it's a good trade (like I do) they think Quinn will be a very solid QB and that the 'Boys got good value for a player they didn't really need.

                  Originally posted by Jughead10 View Post
                  Cowboys got lucky with the deal. I know the Browns contacted the Giants about the #20 pick. But didn't offer the same deal the Cowboys got. Meaning the first rounder in 08 wasn't offered to us. The reason it was offered to the Cowboys was because the Browns got nervous Baltimore was going to trade up and grab Quinn. Baltimore had little ammunition to move up because of a lack of a second round pick, but once Quinn dropped to #24 the Browns realized the Ravens didn't need much more than a 3rd rounder to move up from #29 and would need less if Quinn dropped to #25 or 26.
                  Well Quinn only dropped to 22, at least that's where the Browns selected him in the end. I guess the Browns wanted to avoid giving Baltimore a chance at getting him. I guess you could view it as the 'Boys getting lucky, or the Giants catching a bad break. You could also see it as a Cowboys war room that made excellent use of it's leverage.

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                  • #10
                    Don't forget the Cowboys received an early second rounder (36) in addition the the 2008 first rounder.

                    According to the value chart the Cowboys committed highway robbery.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Addict View Post
                      Well Quinn only dropped to 22, at least that's where the Browns selected him in the end. I guess the Browns wanted to avoid giving Baltimore a chance at getting him. I guess you could view it as the 'Boys getting lucky, or the Giants catching a bad break. You could also see it as a Cowboys war room that made excellent use of it's leverage.
                      Yeah, I meant #22. Its just a matter of where the picks feel. Dallas was closer to Baltimore. Browns had to pull the trigger.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                        Don't forget the Cowboys received an early second rounder (36) in addition the the 2008 first rounder.

                        According to the value chart the Cowboys committed highway robbery.
                        It really all depends on how Quinn turns out. If he's the QB his supporters think he will be, then it's a fair trade, if he turns out (like some people on these boards have claimed) a bust, then the Cowboys really robbed the Browns.

                        In all it was an excellent trade for the Cowboys, that's for sure. How fair it was from the Browns' perspective depends on Quinn entirely.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Addict View Post
                          It really all depends on how Quinn turns out. If he's the QB his supporters think he will be, then it's a fair trade, if he turns out (like some people on these boards have claimed) a bust, then the Cowboys really robbed the Browns.

                          In all it was an excellent trade for the Cowboys, that's for sure. How fair it was from the Browns' perspective depends on Quinn entirely.
                          I was talking about the sheer number values of the draft picks involved.


                          DAL Pick 22 - 780 pts.

                          CLE Pick 36 - 540 pts.

                          That's a difference of 240 pts, equivalent of the 70th pick (3rd Rnd).

                          Consider that the 2008 First Rounder could be a top 15 pick... the 15th pick alone is worth 1050 pts. So as you see, point value wise, it was a smashing deal for the Boys.

                          As far as getting Quinn, it was a good get for CLE. So I think both teams benefitted.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by D-Unit View Post
                            I was talking about the sheer number values of the draft picks involved.


                            DAL Pick 22 - 780 pts.

                            CLE Pick 36 - 540 pts.

                            That's a difference of 240 pts, equivalent of the 70th pick (3rd Rnd).

                            Consider that the 2008 First Rounder could be a top 15 pick... the 15th pick alone is worth 1050 pts. So as you see, point value wise, it was a smashing deal for the Boys.

                            As far as getting Quinn, it was a good get for CLE. So I think both teams benefitted.
                            A first round pick next year has the value of a mid second this year, so while he was a good value trade for the Cowboys, it isn't as amazing as you are making it sound.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by draftguru151 View Post
                              A first round pick next year has the value of a mid second this year, so while he was a good value trade for the Cowboys, it isn't as amazing as you are making it sound.
                              If that's true relatively to this year... it's pretty much meaningless. When next rolls around, that CLE pick will hold it's true value once again.

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