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  • Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
    Originally posted by andyjo672
    Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
    Originally posted by andyjo672
    Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
    Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
    BN since your person opinion means absolutly nothing to me. I and everyone else was trying to shed some light as to why his dad did not sign the LOI on NSD, since it was evident that you did not know any of the underlying circumstancse, which i think even you can agree with. You knew nothing more than the fact that Vidals dad refused to sign in the letter on NSD. That led you to come to your own personal opinion that the guy is an ass. So you can call anyone an ass you want i guess, but nobody will value your opinion at all.

    You cry like a little baby and ask questions that have been answered, calling me a kid because i presented facts, and information you did not know when you called Vidals dad a ass. All you say is he is a ass for not signing the letter. Well congratulations, i guess your own worthless, ignorant opinion on a matter you know nothing about can be your arguement. -That is literally all you have contributed to this topic, so really congrats on making us all waste time trying to enlighten your views on the situation, with facts you were oblivious to.

    I have presented you with enough facts that should have been able to make you realize that what you said was an unjust opinion. Now if you wish to ignore everything everyone has said you may do so. I only hope the next time your going to argue like this how about you bring some actual knowledge of the subject at hand.

    I mean the guy ended up signing the letter anyways, you make it sound like he never did and Vidal is worse off for it. So really i don't even know what to say to you...
    *sigh*

    You could have saved yourself an awful lot of typing and just typed "I don't understand BN's question, so I'm going to attack him for it".
    BN, why dont you address my post. I made a convincing argument based on a relatively similar situation. Parents play HUGE roles in this process, and his dad was simply trying to do that. Why is that so hard to understand? You seem so ignorant and unable to grasp these concepts that everyone around seems able to understand. Im noticing a trend here, everyone seems to think that YOU are the one that is in fact wrong. So maybe you are the one that should indeed keep his mouth shut?
    I did answer you. Thanks for jumping in with the rest of them though. Conforming is fun.
    OH I SEE WHATS GOING ON HERE! BN hates conformity, and therefore most likely hates his dad who probably works for the big evil corporate machine. As a result, he cant stand the fact that Vidal's dad would attempt to help his son make a well educated decision. Why dont you go listen to some more crappy dungeon rock music in your poorly lit basement while your parents are upstairs talking about what went wrong with you...shouldn't you be at work being the disgruntled 30 year old working at the local 7/11?

    Its not conformity idiot, its making a well reasoned point after objectively reading all the posts in this topic.
    wow. more mature posting from the NFLDC all stars.
    Everyone was being civil in this forum, until you upped the ante. If you can be respectful expect us to kindly return the favor.

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    • Originally posted by andyjo672
      Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
      Originally posted by andyjo672
      Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
      Originally posted by andyjo672
      Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
      Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
      BN since your person opinion means absolutly nothing to me. I and everyone else was trying to shed some light as to why his dad did not sign the LOI on NSD, since it was evident that you did not know any of the underlying circumstancse, which i think even you can agree with. You knew nothing more than the fact that Vidals dad refused to sign in the letter on NSD. That led you to come to your own personal opinion that the guy is an ass. So you can call anyone an ass you want i guess, but nobody will value your opinion at all.

      You cry like a little baby and ask questions that have been answered, calling me a kid because i presented facts, and information you did not know when you called Vidals dad a ass. All you say is he is a ass for not signing the letter. Well congratulations, i guess your own worthless, ignorant opinion on a matter you know nothing about can be your arguement. -That is literally all you have contributed to this topic, so really congrats on making us all waste time trying to enlighten your views on the situation, with facts you were oblivious to.

      I have presented you with enough facts that should have been able to make you realize that what you said was an unjust opinion. Now if you wish to ignore everything everyone has said you may do so. I only hope the next time your going to argue like this how about you bring some actual knowledge of the subject at hand.

      I mean the guy ended up signing the letter anyways, you make it sound like he never did and Vidal is worse off for it. So really i don't even know what to say to you...
      *sigh*

      You could have saved yourself an awful lot of typing and just typed "I don't understand BN's question, so I'm going to attack him for it".
      BN, why dont you address my post. I made a convincing argument based on a relatively similar situation. Parents play HUGE roles in this process, and his dad was simply trying to do that. Why is that so hard to understand? You seem so ignorant and unable to grasp these concepts that everyone around seems able to understand. Im noticing a trend here, everyone seems to think that YOU are the one that is in fact wrong. So maybe you are the one that should indeed keep his mouth shut?
      I did answer you. Thanks for jumping in with the rest of them though. Conforming is fun.
      OH I SEE WHATS GOING ON HERE! BN hates conformity, and therefore most likely hates his dad who probably works for the big evil corporate machine. As a result, he cant stand the fact that Vidal's dad would attempt to help his son make a well educated decision. Why dont you go listen to some more crappy dungeon rock music in your poorly lit basement while your parents are upstairs talking about what went wrong with you...shouldn't you be at work being the disgruntled 30 year old working at the local 7/11?

      Its not conformity idiot, its making a well reasoned point after objectively reading all the posts in this topic.
      wow. more mature posting from the NFLDC all stars.
      Everyone was being civil in this forum, until you upped the ante. If you can be respectful expect us to kindly return the favor.
      bullshit.

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      • Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
        Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
        Elway, BN has no arguement, he has his opinion, thats all it is, i simply tried to help him realize there was more to it than what he thought, but he will not accept that... We need to stop calling what he is saying a arguement it is merely a ignorant opinion

        I really do not see how i did not answer your question, i provided you with information you did not know, and you continue to not see any fault in your logic, but whatever man.

        I mean truely BN answer this, is it true all you knew going into this situation was that vidal's dad did not sign the letter? I can see how you would make the judgement if that is all you knew, but there was much more to it than that...

        By continuing to respond how you are you are doing nothing be degrading your opinion among the other posters, so i don't see what it is you are trying to accomplish here
        OK. For the 500th time. Here is the question I'm asking. Forget anything else about the situation.

        If Vidal Hazelton was having second thoughts about USC, why would his dad be the one to not sign the LOI? Why wouldn't he just not sign it himself?

        That's the question. If you stop with your "Let's all hate on BN27" bullshit and think about it for 1 second, you'll realize it's a legit question. Maybe then you assholes can pull your heads from your asses and answer it.
        Ok the answer for the 500th time... He was being a parent, and doing what he thought was right. You act like still to this day the guy has not signed the letter... He was generally concerned about Vidal, so he basically bought his son more time... Kinda get it?

        Now let me ask you a question, Why did you make a judgement about a person, and a situation you knew nothing about?

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        • Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
          Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
          Elway, BN has no arguement, he has his opinion, thats all it is, i simply tried to help him realize there was more to it than what he thought, but he will not accept that... We need to stop calling what he is saying a arguement it is merely a ignorant opinion

          I really do not see how i did not answer your question, i provided you with information you did not know, and you continue to not see any fault in your logic, but whatever man.

          I mean truely BN answer this, is it true all you knew going into this situation was that vidal's dad did not sign the letter? I can see how you would make the judgement if that is all you knew, but there was much more to it than that...

          By continuing to respond how you are you are doing nothing be degrading your opinion among the other posters, so i don't see what it is you are trying to accomplish here
          OK. For the 500th time. Here is the question I'm asking. Forget anything else about the situation.

          If Vidal Hazelton was having second thoughts about USC, why would his dad be the one to not sign the LOI? Why wouldn't he just not sign it himself?

          That's the question. If you stop with your "Let's all hate on BN27" bullshit and think about it for 1 second, you'll realize it's a legit question. Maybe then you assholes can pull your heads from your asses and answer it.
          Maybe his father understood/was worried that Vidal WOULD have second thoughts. Maybe there is some precedent that we dont know about in this family in which his son had made many decisions in his lifetime that he would ultimately regret, and as a father he wanted to make sure this HUGE decision was well thought out and the risk of his son regretting it was somehow minimized. Is that a possibility? Im being sincere here, no sarcasm whatsoever. Maybe the dad understood how his son's thought process went and he wanted to make sure that process reached its conclusion before signing his portion of the LOI.

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          • Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
            Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
            Elway, BN has no arguement, he has his opinion, thats all it is, i simply tried to help him realize there was more to it than what he thought, but he will not accept that... We need to stop calling what he is saying a arguement it is merely a ignorant opinion

            I really do not see how i did not answer your question, i provided you with information you did not know, and you continue to not see any fault in your logic, but whatever man.

            I mean truely BN answer this, is it true all you knew going into this situation was that vidal's dad did not sign the letter? I can see how you would make the judgement if that is all you knew, but there was much more to it than that...

            By continuing to respond how you are you are doing nothing be degrading your opinion among the other posters, so i don't see what it is you are trying to accomplish here
            OK. For the 500th time. Here is the question I'm asking. Forget anything else about the situation.

            If Vidal Hazelton was having second thoughts about USC, why would his dad be the one to not sign the LOI? Why wouldn't he just not sign it himself?

            That's the question. If you stop with your "Let's all hate on BN27" bullshit and think about it for 1 second, you'll realize it's a legit question. Maybe then you assholes can pull your heads from your asses and answer it.
            Can't wait till a mod get's here, you add nothing to this site and have nearly brought every thread you post in down to your level.

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            • Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
              Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
              Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
              Elway, BN has no arguement, he has his opinion, thats all it is, i simply tried to help him realize there was more to it than what he thought, but he will not accept that... We need to stop calling what he is saying a arguement it is merely a ignorant opinion

              I really do not see how i did not answer your question, i provided you with information you did not know, and you continue to not see any fault in your logic, but whatever man.

              I mean truely BN answer this, is it true all you knew going into this situation was that vidal's dad did not sign the letter? I can see how you would make the judgement if that is all you knew, but there was much more to it than that...

              By continuing to respond how you are you are doing nothing be degrading your opinion among the other posters, so i don't see what it is you are trying to accomplish here
              OK. For the 500th time. Here is the question I'm asking. Forget anything else about the situation.

              If Vidal Hazelton was having second thoughts about USC, why would his dad be the one to not sign the LOI? Why wouldn't he just not sign it himself?

              That's the question. If you stop with your "Let's all hate on BN27" bullshit and think about it for 1 second, you'll realize it's a legit question. Maybe then you assholes can pull your heads from your asses and answer it.
              Ok the answer for the 500th time... He was being a parent, and doing what he thought was right. You act like still to this day the guy has not signed the letter... He was generally concerned about Vidal, so he basically bought his son more time... Kinda get it?

              Now let me ask you a question, Why did you make a judgement about a person, and a situation you knew nothing about?
              Holy Lord in Heaven.

              No, that's not an answer. That's an answer to the question "Why did Vidal's dad not sign the LOI". That's also a question I DID NOT ASK.

              Here's the question I did ask...again: If Vidal Hazelton was having second thoughts about USC, why would his dad be the one to not sign the LOI? Why wouldn't he just not sign it himself?

              I was told that Vidal's dad didn't sign it because Vidal was having second thoughts. That doesn't make sense to me, so I attempted to get an answer from the person who said it. I have yet to get that answer.

              Please. Stop and think before you reply to this. Are you answering the question I'm asking?

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              • Originally posted by andyjo672
                Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
                Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                Elway, BN has no arguement, he has his opinion, thats all it is, i simply tried to help him realize there was more to it than what he thought, but he will not accept that... We need to stop calling what he is saying a arguement it is merely a ignorant opinion

                I really do not see how i did not answer your question, i provided you with information you did not know, and you continue to not see any fault in your logic, but whatever man.

                I mean truely BN answer this, is it true all you knew going into this situation was that vidal's dad did not sign the letter? I can see how you would make the judgement if that is all you knew, but there was much more to it than that...

                By continuing to respond how you are you are doing nothing be degrading your opinion among the other posters, so i don't see what it is you are trying to accomplish here
                OK. For the 500th time. Here is the question I'm asking. Forget anything else about the situation.

                If Vidal Hazelton was having second thoughts about USC, why would his dad be the one to not sign the LOI? Why wouldn't he just not sign it himself?

                That's the question. If you stop with your "Let's all hate on BN27" bullshit and think about it for 1 second, you'll realize it's a legit question. Maybe then you assholes can pull your heads from your asses and answer it.
                Maybe his father understood/was worried that Vidal WOULD have second thoughts. Maybe there is some precedent that we dont know about in this family in which his son had made many decisions in his lifetime that he would ultimately regret, and as a father he wanted to make sure this HUGE decision was well thought out and the risk of his son regretting it was somehow minimized. Is that a possibility? Im being sincere here, no sarcasm whatsoever. Maybe the dad understood how his son's thought process went and he wanted to make sure that process reached its conclusion before signing his portion of the LOI.
                Maybe. Congrats on being the first in this thread to actually understand my question.

                But it still makes no sense. If Vidal was having genuine second thoughts, he wouldn't have signed the LOI. It's not like he only had a day to decide what school he wanted to go to. Every other recruit that year figured it out with the help of their parents or without.

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                • Originally posted by elway777
                  Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
                  Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                  Elway, BN has no arguement, he has his opinion, thats all it is, i simply tried to help him realize there was more to it than what he thought, but he will not accept that... We need to stop calling what he is saying a arguement it is merely a ignorant opinion

                  I really do not see how i did not answer your question, i provided you with information you did not know, and you continue to not see any fault in your logic, but whatever man.

                  I mean truely BN answer this, is it true all you knew going into this situation was that vidal's dad did not sign the letter? I can see how you would make the judgement if that is all you knew, but there was much more to it than that...

                  By continuing to respond how you are you are doing nothing be degrading your opinion among the other posters, so i don't see what it is you are trying to accomplish here
                  OK. For the 500th time. Here is the question I'm asking. Forget anything else about the situation.

                  If Vidal Hazelton was having second thoughts about USC, why would his dad be the one to not sign the LOI? Why wouldn't he just not sign it himself?

                  That's the question. If you stop with your "Let's all hate on BN27" bullshit and think about it for 1 second, you'll realize it's a legit question. Maybe then you assholes can pull your heads from your asses and answer it.
                  Can't wait till a mod get's here, you add nothing to this site and have nearly brought every thread you post in down to your level.
                  That's what happens when I have a legit question and the idiot trolls like you do nothing but try to slam me because you don't have the mental capabilities to understand them.

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                  • Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
                    Originally posted by elway777
                    Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
                    Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                    Elway, BN has no arguement, he has his opinion, thats all it is, i simply tried to help him realize there was more to it than what he thought, but he will not accept that... We need to stop calling what he is saying a arguement it is merely a ignorant opinion

                    I really do not see how i did not answer your question, i provided you with information you did not know, and you continue to not see any fault in your logic, but whatever man.

                    I mean truely BN answer this, is it true all you knew going into this situation was that vidal's dad did not sign the letter? I can see how you would make the judgement if that is all you knew, but there was much more to it than that...

                    By continuing to respond how you are you are doing nothing be degrading your opinion among the other posters, so i don't see what it is you are trying to accomplish here
                    OK. For the 500th time. Here is the question I'm asking. Forget anything else about the situation.

                    If Vidal Hazelton was having second thoughts about USC, why would his dad be the one to not sign the LOI? Why wouldn't he just not sign it himself?

                    That's the question. If you stop with your "Let's all hate on BN27" bullshit and think about it for 1 second, you'll realize it's a legit question. Maybe then you assholes can pull your heads from your asses and answer it.
                    Can't wait till a mod get's here, you add nothing to this site and have nearly brought every thread you post in down to your level.
                    That's what happens when I have a legit question and the idiot trolls like you do nothing but try to slam me because you don't have the mental capabilities to understand them.
                    Pipe down crybaby, how did danman get banned and this guy didn't?

                    Props to Darnik

                    Originally posted by CutlerChris
                    Why couldn't Helen Keller drive?

                    She was a woman.
                    ^^^^^^
                    OMFG LMAO

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                    • VIDAL WAS BACKED INTO A CORNER ON NSD AND HAD TO SIGN, no matter how uncertain he was, if he wanted to play football next year. The recruiting season was coming to a close. His dad basically gave him more time by not signing. Now if the bold part doesn't answer your question then i have no clue how to man...

                      Why did you make a unwarrented judgement about a person and a situation you knew nothing about?

                      Also he ended up sign anyway, and he had not negative intentions behind not signing other than, try to help his son, so why is he an ass? I'm just curious cuz i don't see it i guess

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                      • Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                        VIDAL WAS BACKED INTO A CORNER ON NSD AND HAD TO SIGN, no matter how uncertain he was, if he wanted to play football next year. The recruiting season was coming to a close. His dad basically gave him more time by not signing. Now if the bold part doesn't answer your question then i have no clue how to man...

                        Why did you make a unwarrented judgement about a person and a situation you knew nothing about?
                        You don't have to sign your LOI on NLOID. That's just the first day you are allowed to. Try again.

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                        • Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
                          Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                          VIDAL WAS BACKED INTO A CORNER ON NSD AND HAD TO SIGN, no matter how uncertain he was, if he wanted to play football next year. The recruiting season was coming to a close. His dad basically gave him more time by not signing. Now if the bold part doesn't answer your question then i have no clue how to man...

                          Why did you make a unwarrented judgement about a person and a situation you knew nothing about?
                          You don't have to sign your LOI on NLOID. That's just the first day you are allowed to. Try again.
                          OMG, seriously, what is your deal. DF, its not worth it, you'd have a more civilized conversation with a caveman

                          Props to Darnik

                          Originally posted by CutlerChris
                          Why couldn't Helen Keller drive?

                          She was a woman.
                          ^^^^^^
                          OMFG LMAO

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                          • Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
                            Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                            VIDAL WAS BACKED INTO A CORNER ON NSD AND HAD TO SIGN, no matter how uncertain he was, if he wanted to play football next year. The recruiting season was coming to a close. His dad basically gave him more time by not signing. Now if the bold part doesn't answer your question then i have no clue how to man...

                            Why did you make a unwarrented judgement about a person and a situation you knew nothing about?
                            You don't have to sign your LOI on NLOID. That's just the first day you are allowed to. Try again.
                            I know that but, the media pressure is there for the kid, and pretty much everyone else does, so he may not have recognized other options, you just think this is a complete cut and dry situation and fail to recognize any other outside factors that are proving your opinion worthless i guess...now please answer my questions.

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                            • Originally posted by TIP
                              Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
                              Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                              VIDAL WAS BACKED INTO A CORNER ON NSD AND HAD TO SIGN, no matter how uncertain he was, if he wanted to play football next year. The recruiting season was coming to a close. His dad basically gave him more time by not signing. Now if the bold part doesn't answer your question then i have no clue how to man...

                              Why did you make a unwarrented judgement about a person and a situation you knew nothing about?
                              You don't have to sign your LOI on NLOID. That's just the first day you are allowed to. Try again.
                              OMG, seriously, what is your deal. DF, its not worth it, you'd have a more civilized conversation with a caveman
                              How is that not civilized?

                              Seriously, if you have to pretend I'm not the same guy who has made fun of you in the past for whatever it was just so you can have a conversation with me, go right ahead. It's getting old.

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                              • Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                                Originally posted by BuckeyeNation27
                                Originally posted by DoWnThEfiElD
                                VIDAL WAS BACKED INTO A CORNER ON NSD AND HAD TO SIGN, no matter how uncertain he was, if he wanted to play football next year. The recruiting season was coming to a close. His dad basically gave him more time by not signing. Now if the bold part doesn't answer your question then i have no clue how to man...

                                Why did you make a unwarrented judgement about a person and a situation you knew nothing about?
                                You don't have to sign your LOI on NLOID. That's just the first day you are allowed to. Try again.
                                I know that but, the media pressure is there for the kid, and pretty much everyone else does, so he may not have recognized other options, you just think this is a complete cut and dry situation and fail to recognize any other outside factors that are proving your opinion worthless i guess...now please answer my questions.
                                So what it comes down to is the line that he was having second thoughts so his dad didn't sign was just a bunch of bull? That's bascially what you're saying?

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