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  • Spread Option vs. Pro Style in CFB.

    If you had a choice between your school running a Spread Option offense by Urban Meyer, or a pro style offense by Norm Chow, which would you rather have?

    Vince Young, Urban Meyer and West Virginia have certainly changed college football the last couple years. Personally I think the Spread Option is a work of genius, and would be scared if USC ever had to face a real good team with it.

    But the greatest offense of all time still was a Pro Style Offense with a drop back QB. For my tastes, I'd take a Pro Style Offense because it's easier to run out of (no shotgun running) and the QB isn't at risk to get hurt. It's also more aesthetically pleasing to me to have a Peyton Manning-esque pocket passer than a Michael Vick type QB.

    Post your reasons why.
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    Pro Style Offense run by Norm Chow for my team
    56.10%
    23
    Spread Option Offense run by Urban Meyer for my team
    43.90%
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    Last edited by Jericho@SC; 07-01-2007, 07:53 PM.

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    Pro style O

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    • #3
      spread option

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      • #4
        At the college level, I'd choose the spread offense. The option is dangerous in college football and easier to run, IMO. A QB does not have to deal with as many reads and can focus more on the play. A lot of the best teams in college football history have been option teams and Urban Meyer is showing how it can dominate college football today.

        Also, I don't think VY, Meyer and WVU have changed college football. Tommy Frazier and the Cornhuskers were better at the option than WVU is. The option has been around as long as the game has. The oldest offenses in football are built around the person getting the snap being able to run the ball or hand it to another back. The single wing for instance is similar to the current day spread offense in that sense.
        Last edited by mqtirishfan; 07-01-2007, 08:26 PM.

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        • #5
          As good as a spread option is, it has it's flaws if the running game starts getting stuffed. The QB isn't as polished of a passer most of the time, so if you can stop the run game(which is very hard though), the offense suffers. I'll take the Pro-Style offense, and Norm Chow(who I think is an offensive Genius only behind CW). Although it's a little harder to run, there are more options than just a bootleg on 1st down and stuff.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mqtirishfan View Post
            At the college level, I'd choose the spread offense. The option is dangerous in college football and easier to run, IMO. A QB does not have to deal with as many reads and can focus more on the play. A lot of the best teams in college football history have been option teams and Urban Meyer is showing how it can dominate college football today.

            Also, I don't think VY, Meyer and WVU have changed college football. Tommy Frazier and the Cornhuskers were better at the option than WVU is. The option has been around as long as the game has. The oldest offenses in football are built around the person getting the snap being able to run the ball or hand it to another back. The single wing for instance is similar to the current day spread offense in that sense.
            I know that Nebraska was a great option team, but the spread option is a little different. I combines the option with a wide open shotgun formation with 4-5 WR sets. I don't recall the Huskers going into 4 wide sets. Anyway, I think it's a big difference as it's even more dangerous as an offense because of the passing element. The way Florida's recruiting WR's these days, how would you defend Tim Tebow and say, Darrell Scott in the backfield while trying to cover Percy Harvin, Deonte Thompson, Dallas Baker, Andre Caldwell and Aaron Hernandez?

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            • #7
              psssh i'd much rather have a D by Greg Schiano
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              Originally posted by PalmerToCJ
              BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.

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              • #8
                I like the spread option. It spreads out the defense but throws them off guard when you hit them with the option. Doesn't produce much pro QBs but it does produce wins.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JeffSamardzijaIRISH View Post
                  As good as a spread option is, it has it's flaws if the running game starts getting stuffed. The QB isn't as polished of a passer most of the time, so if you can stop the run game(which is very hard though), the offense suffers. I'll take the Pro-Style offense, and Norm Chow(who I think is an offensive Genius only behind CW). Although it's a little harder to run, there are more options than just a bootleg on 1st down and stuff.
                  Come on bud. Norm Chow SMOKES Charlie Weis as an offensive mind. Weis and the Irish looked like Pop Warner players vs. the only decent teams they played both offensively and defensively. USC was dropping 40-50 points on everyone they played with Chow there.

                  In response to the actual question, Pro Style is the way I like to go. I prefer less gimmicks in my offense (though some are nice). I prefer smashmouth football and twin TE sets and such over the spread just because for me, it's easier to fool someone with playaction and I find it's better for the running game.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SNIPER26 View Post
                    Come on bud. Norm Chow SMOKES Charlie Weis as an offensive mind. Weis and the Irish looked like Pop Warner players vs. the only decent teams they played both offensively and defensively. USC was dropping 40-50 points on everyone they played with Chow there.

                    In response to the actual question, Pro Style is the way I like to go. I prefer less gimmicks in my offense (though some are nice). I prefer smashmouth football and twin TE sets and such over the spread just because for me, it's easier to fool someone with playaction and I find it's better for the running game.
                    Hey man, I'm biased.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JeffSamardzijaIRISH View Post
                      Hey man, I'm biased.
                      Homerism is not a crime. I just felt compelled to defend Chow who is probably one of the greatest offensive minds in recent years.

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                      • #12
                        Is defending a play action really harder to read than say, a Vince Young zone-read play?

                        That's where I think the Spread Option gets really tricky. You have the option for all these fake handoffs after which you can run with the ball yourself and if you're about to get tackled, you can pitch it.

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                        • #13
                          Charlie Weiss:

                          Tom Brady
                          Brady Quinn

                          Norm Chow:

                          Steve Young
                          Ty Detmer
                          Jim McMahon
                          Carson Palmer
                          Matt Leinart

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jericho@SC View Post
                            Is defending a play action really harder to read than say, a Vince Young zone-read play?

                            That's where I think the Spread Option gets really tricky. You have the option for all these fake handoffs after which you can run with the ball yourself and if you're about to get tackled, you can pitch it.
                            You're right, but how many QBs are 6'5 230 pounds and can run around a 4.5 and have like 4.3 game speed? For example, I'd take Michigan's O this year over WVU because you're going to have to respect Mike Hart, one of the best RB in the country AND respect Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington and Chad Henne who both rank at the top of their respective positions, not to mention the best lineman in America in Jake Long. While WVU may have the sickest triple option in the history of NCAA with White, Slaton and Devine, if you stop the run, who do they have to throw it to? Darius Reynaud? No offense but he's not Manningham. The problem with the spread is that at times it can get too one-dimensional. Texas had a perfect situation though with Vince Young, Jamaal Charles, Limas Sweed, Billy Pittman and Ramonce Taylor. That's one of the reason they averaged the most points in the country. Sure, VY is a dynamic runner but he was also able to have targets like Sweed, Pittman and TE David Thomas. That's about as perfect as you can ask for in that style of offense. Then again, you could make a case for USC's more traditional offense with Leinart, Bush, White, Jarrett, Smith, Byrd etc... So there's no right or wrong answer when it comes to college, it's whatever you like.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SNIPER26 View Post
                              You're right, but how many QBs are 6'5 230 pounds and can run around a 4.5 and have like 4.3 game speed? For example, I'd take Michigan's O this year over WVU because you're going to have to respect Mike Hart, one of the best RB in the country AND respect Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington and Chad Henne who both rank at the top of their respective positions, not to mention the best lineman in America in Jake Long. While WVU may have the sickest triple option in the history of NCAA with White, Slaton and Devine, if you stop the run, who do they have to throw it to? Darius Reynaud? No offense but he's not Manningham. The problem with the spread is that at times it can get too one-dimensional. Texas had a perfect situation though with Vince Young, Jamaal Charles, Limas Sweed, Billy Pittman and Ramonce Taylor. That's one of the reason they averaged the most points in the country. Sure, VY is a dynamic runner but he was also able to have targets like Sweed, Pittman and TE David Thomas. That's about as perfect as you can ask for in that style of offense. Then again, you could make a case for USC's more traditional offense with Leinart, Bush, White, Jarrett, Smith, Byrd etc... So there's no right or wrong answer when it comes to college, it's whatever you like.
                              Ya, that was my point exactly.

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