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  • #31
    Originally posted by SNIPER26 View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa whoa wait...The best? He would have gone to SC to match up with the best QBs. Sanchez is a former Parade HS POY and Mustain was the #1 QB in his class. Isn't Aaron Corp, another highly touted QB headed there too?

    Clausen, for the last time, had sick stats because he played weak competition and was adept at putting the ball in Marc Tyler's gut. Always helps when you have 10 D-1 players on your team playing a bunch of nobodies.
    First of all Clausen Committed to ND before Mustain transfered to SC or Corp verballed to SC. So to say he was scarred of the competition is hilarious especially since he verballed to ND where he would have to battle 3 highly rated QB's for the starting job. Besides Mustain was trying to commit to ND after he first de-committed to Arkansas but coach Weis wanted to wait for Clausen, and Coach Carrol was still trying to recruit Clausen even after he received a verbal from Corp. So Clausen must be a good prospect if he had coaches passing on other highly ranked QB's for him.

    Clausens been impressing since his freshmen year, and the fact that every major program in the nation was interested in him shows that he does have skills.
    Chinese Democracy starts on November 23rd 2008!!!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by JayP View Post
      According to your logic, Tyler's as bad as Clausen, since he played against the same weak competition, and also had 10 D-1 players against the same bunch of nobodies...well, at least until he broke his leg that is.

      Sanchez is a headcase waiting to implode. Mustain has serious mommy-attachment issues, and also was on a HS team with 4 D-1 prospects on the offensive side of the ball. If his mom imploded because he had to hand off to a freakin' Heisman Trophy candidate RB, what is she gonna do when he's second fiddle to the other talent at USC? And Corp was a 2 star until he pledged to USC, then he miraculously leaped up to a 4 star...even won California POY because the sportswriters were pissed that Jimmy spurned USC. Sad thing is, the kid obviously has a vote of no confidence from Carroll, considering Petey was still chasing Clausen up until the last minute then turned around and promised Crist he'd start ahead of Corp. Plus, most USC fans I know are banking on Matt Barkley to sign in '09 and take over as a 3-4 year starter.

      USC's QB depth is good in name only. It'll be interesting to see how their QBs do under 100% Sarkesian tutoring and no remnants of Norm Chow training.
      Where do you get your information? corp a 2 star? he won CIF and state with the only loss to servite. Get your info straight.
      Last edited by soybean; 08-09-2007, 01:56 PM.

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      • #33
        delete post.
        Last edited by soybean; 08-09-2007, 02:02 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by soybean View Post
          Where do you get your information? corp a 2 star? he won CIF and state with the only loss to servite. Get your info straight.
          Try reading the whole post and getting your own facts straight. I said I may have been off on his initial star ranking, but I know he wasn't a 4 star player from the get go. He got his 4th star after committing to USC. And its hilarious that Corp won California POY, yet Clausen took pretty much every national award he went up for. Tell me it isn't homerism when a kid is a Parade and Army All-American, listed as the #1 prospect in the country, but not considered the POY in his state.

          Corp was option #3 for USC behind Clausen and Paulus, in that order. Most ND & USC fans assumed that since Clausen and Paulus both had high interest in USC and ND, whoever pulled the trigger first would seal the deal for the other. When Clausen committed, everyone figured Paulus was USC bound. Amazing that when Paulus shocked everyone by heading to N.C., Corp and Szakacsy committed rapid fire.
          Last edited by JayP; 08-09-2007, 04:45 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Axl Rose View Post
            I never said Weinke wasn't good, but to act like Crist's highlight video was disappointing when he was being recruited by every major program including Michigan is ridicules.
            I didn't say Crist was disappointing.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by JayP View Post
              Try reading the whole post and getting your own facts straight. I said I may have been off on his initial star ranking, but I know he wasn't a 4 star player from the get go. He got his 4th star after committing to USC. And its hilarious that Corp won California POY, yet Clausen took pretty much every national award he went up for. Tell me it isn't homerism when a kid is a Parade and Army All-American, listed as the #1 prospect in the country, but not considered the POY in his state.

              Corp was option #3 for USC behind Clausen and Paulus, in that order. Most ND & USC fans assumed that since Clausen and Paulus both had high interest in USC and ND, whoever pulled the trigger first would seal the deal for the other. When Clausen committed, everyone figured Paulus was USC bound. Amazing that when Paulus shocked everyone by heading to N.C., Corp and Szakacsy committed rapid fire.
              you could be right but this is all hearsay. How do YOU know how bad SC wanted Clausen or Paulus? and that corp was just a last minute resort?

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              • #37
                plus i still dont believe that usc was that actively pursuing clausen considering he commited a year early.

                i don't know why we're arguing about jimmy clausen though, ryan mallet is a much better qb than him
                Last edited by soybean; 08-09-2007, 05:15 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by SNIPER26 View Post
                  I didn't say Crist was disappointing.
                  My post was in response to Michigan.
                  Chinese Democracy starts on November 23rd 2008!!!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by soybean View Post
                    plus i still dont believe that usc was that actively pursuing clausen considering he commited a year early.

                    i don't know why we're arguing about jimmy clausen though, ryan mallet is a much better qb than him
                    Bless your heart for that last remark :) I don't want to be accused of homerism

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by soybean View Post
                      you could be right but this is all hearsay. How do YOU know how bad SC wanted Clausen or Paulus? and that corp was just a last minute resort?
                      You can't possibly be that stupid.

                      How do I know USC wanted Clausen or Paulus? I dunno...the well publicized text message that Clausen received from Pete Carroll right after the Sugar Bowl stating "Do you still wanna do this? You can still change your mind." Gee...that sounds like Pete Carroll was after him. Or maybe the fact that USC sent Clausen a schollie offer when he was a sophomore (http://www.pe.com/sports/college/usc....35acbd8.html) means that they wanted him pretty badly?

                      Regarding Paulus, read away: http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/525423.html. In case you're too lazy to click it, lemme pull a quote for you:

                      "It came down to USC and North Carolina and I called Coach Bunting and let him know."

                      "Coach Bunting was extremely happy. He said 'I'm a very, very happy head coach right now. I'm grinning ear to ear.'"

                      A four-star prospect, according to Scout.com, Paulus also made a phone call to Southern Cal head coach Pete Carroll to inform him of the decision.

                      "Coach Carroll was very classy; he said 'You're unbelievable, we wish we could have had you - North Carolina is really lucky because you're going to be very good,' " Paulus said.
                      I think it's safe to say Pete wanted both of them, but I'm thinking Clausen got his schollie offer first, then Paulus, then Corp. Especially considering this article (http://notredame.rivals.com/content....961&CID=540387) alludes to the fact that Corp got his USC offer in late April (definitely after Clausen committed and around the time Paulus probably notified Carroll he was going to UNC) and accepted quickly.

                      But no, I'm just full of heresay.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JayP View Post
                        You can't possibly be that stupid.

                        How do I know USC wanted Clausen or Paulus? I dunno...the well publicized text message that Clausen received from Pete Carroll right after the Sugar Bowl stating "Do you still wanna do this? You can still change your mind." Gee...that sounds like Pete Carroll was after him. Or maybe the fact that USC sent Clausen a schollie offer when he was a sophomore (http://www.pe.com/sports/college/usc....35acbd8.html) means that they wanted him pretty badly?

                        Regarding Paulus, read away: http://northcarolina.scout.com/2/525423.html. In case you're too lazy to click it, lemme pull a quote for you:

                        I think it's safe to say Pete wanted both of them, but I'm thinking Clausen got his schollie offer first, then Paulus, then Corp. Especially considering this article (http://notredame.rivals.com/content....961&CID=540387) alludes to the fact that Corp got his USC offer in late April (definitely after Clausen committed and around the time Paulus probably notified Carroll he was going to UNC) and accepted quickly.

                        But no, I'm just full of heresay.
                        read my post again. if pete really wanted clausen or Paulus THAT BAD. he would have got them. Plus schools always offer schollies to players even when they don't expect them to start. paulus would have never played. I suppose garrett green will be the next carson palmer too.
                        Last edited by soybean; 08-09-2007, 08:40 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by soybean View Post
                          read my post again. if pete really wanted clausen or Paulus THAT BAD. he would have got them. Plus schools always offer schollies to players even when they don't expect them to start. paulus would have never played. I suppose garrett green will be the next carson palmer too.
                          Are you joking? Does USC have a special button they press for anybody they want? I bet any top prospect who goes elsewhere is just a guy that Pete Carrol declined. I bet USC could just go to every prospect and sign them, regardless of who else is recruiting them.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by soybean View Post
                            read my post again. if pete really wanted clausen or Paulus THAT BAD. he would have got them. Plus schools always offer schollies to players even when they don't expect them to start. paulus would have never played. I suppose garrett green will be the next carson palmer too.
                            My god....you really are that dense.

                            Clausen was down to ND & USC and Paulus was down to NC & USC. For someone who really didn't want those guys, Pete sure as hell put forth a lot of effort recruiting them and getting to their top 2.

                            If Pete really wanted them, he'd have them huh? I can rattle off a LONG list of players Carroll wanted and didn't get...lemme think of a few off the top of my head....Dayne Crist...James Aldridge...James Wilson...Percy Harvin...Donovan Warren...Sam Young...Darius Flemming...nope, guess Pete was joking by showing up at their schools, offering them scholarships, meeting with their coaches and parents, and trying to get them to come to USC. That prankster....whoo.....Carroll is one funny man!

                            Sure Carroll had no intention of ever playing Paulus. If that makes you sleep better at night, go right ahead and keep thinking that. Just like you keep thinking that Green was projecting as a QB in college (he was coming in as a safety I think, but switched to QB due to lack of depth).

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by JayP View Post
                              My god....you really are that dense.

                              Clausen was down to ND & USC and Paulus was down to NC & USC. For someone who really didn't want those guys, Pete sure as hell put forth a lot of effort recruiting them and getting to their top 2.

                              If Pete really wanted them, he'd have them huh? I can rattle off a LONG list of players Carroll wanted and didn't get...lemme think of a few off the top of my head....Dayne Crist...James Aldridge...James Wilson...Percy Harvin...Donovan Warren...Sam Young...Darius Flemming...nope, guess Pete was joking by showing up at their schools, offering them scholarships, meeting with their coaches and parents, and trying to get them to come to USC. That prankster....whoo.....Carroll is one funny man!

                              Sure Carroll had no intention of ever playing Paulus. If that makes you sleep better at night, go right ahead and keep thinking that. Just like you keep thinking that Green was projecting as a QB in college (he was coming in as a safety I think, but switched to QB due to lack of depth).
                              Ok I don't agree with soybean's earlier point. But lack of depth at QB or pretty much any position is not a problem with SC.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SNIPER26 View Post
                                Ok I don't agree with soybean's earlier point. But lack of depth at QB or pretty much any position is not a problem with SC.
                                I disagree. Like I said in another thread, USC has depth in name, but something isn't quite right. Check out this quote from their practice reviews: (http://usc.scout.com/a.z?s=15&p=2&c=666809)

                                *Backup quarterback Mark Sanchez has struggled a bit the past two days. He has not looked as sharp as one might expect, missing some short throws, and making some ill advised throws when his first option is covered.
                                Not exactly what you want to be hearing about your backup, who was the man his senior year in HS, but should be further along as a player heading into his 3rd year in the program.

                                I'm thinking Sanchez is strugging and Pete may be losing confidence in him, which would explain some of his QB recruiting moves. Like others have said, there's no way Mustain goes to USC unless he thinks he has a good chance to start, which means beating out Sanchez. Corp, IMO, is no match for Mustain.
                                Last edited by JayP; 08-10-2007, 09:35 AM.

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