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  • #16
    Juice is horrible

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      • #18
        i dont really know. maybe zook doesnt really trust juice in key situations, and he thinks mcgee is mroe suitable to run the offense in pressure situation. i could understand if they are two different style QB's but they arent.

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        • #19
          During the Michigan game, they were saying that the staff feels McGee has a stronger arm, and is a better passer overall. Maybe I could understand the reasoning if they were way behind or something, and they needed to throw a bunch. But they bring McGee in in weird situations. I don't know, I though Williams was a little overrated anyway, but as has been said, Zook is not a good coach, and these are the kinds of things that keep him from ever utilizing those great recruiting classes to their full potential.



          Originally posted by Jakey
          WWWWWWWWWTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

          i am literally gonna kick a baby to death!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ironman4579 View Post
            During the Michigan game, they were saying that the staff feels McGee has a stronger arm, and is a better passer overall. Maybe I could understand the reasoning if they were way behind or something, and they needed to throw a bunch. But they bring McGee in in weird situations. I don't know, I though Williams was a little overrated anyway, but as has been said, Zook is not a good coach, and these are the kinds of things that keep him from ever utilizing those great recruiting classes to their full potential.
            This is what happens when Kirk calls a game. He has no idea what is he talking about.

            Juice has one of the strongest arms in the nation.. McGee who has a good arm doesn't have the zip that Juice does. I couldn't believe Kirk was saying stuff so dumb last Saturday.

            McGee is a better overall passer right now, but refuses to pitch the ball on the option & struggles with it. He also rarely throws the ball away and forces a lot of balls into double++ coverage.

            Zook brings in McGee when he feels the offense needs a spark.

            Juice runs the ball better and protects the football better that's why he's playing. Juice is the starter & is starting next week.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BUSTKUNTLAWL View Post
              This is what happens when Kirk calls a game. He has no idea what is he talking about.

              Juice has one of the strongest arms in the nation.. McGee who has a good arm doesn't have the zip that Juice does. I couldn't believe Kirk was saying stuff so dumb last Saturday.

              McGee is a better overall passer right now, but refuses to pitch the ball on the option & struggles with it. He also rarely throws the ball away and forces a lot of balls into double++ coverage.

              Zook brings in McGee when he feels the offense needs a spark.

              Juice runs the ball better and protects the football better that's why he's playing. Juice is the starter & is starting next week.
              So you don't feel that the coaching staff actually said that? It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't, but you don't think it's possible that they feel that way?



              Originally posted by Jakey
              WWWWWWWWWTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

              i am literally gonna kick a baby to death!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ironman4579 View Post
                So you don't feel that the coaching staff actually said that? It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't, but you don't think it's possible that they feel that way?
                I don't believe anyone on the staff said McGee had a better arm. It's quite ridiculous to even think so. So, unless there is a blind man on the staff that I am not aware of no one said that.

                I know for a 100% fact Juice has a much bigger arm.. It's not even debatable IMO.

                If you have seen them both throw in person you would understand. I don't even know how else to explain it.

                I shook my head every single time I heard Kirk say that. He kept repeating that McGee had a bigger arm for some reason.

                I do believe someone on the coaching staff said McGee is a better passer which he is. Kirk probably mistaked it for meaning McGee has a better arm. Who knows. Kirk is a moron though for talking like that on national TV.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BUSTKUNTLAWL View Post
                  I don't believe anyone on the staff said McGee had a better arm. It's quite ridiculous to even think so. So, unless there is a blind man on the staff that I am not aware of no one said that.

                  I know for a 100% fact Juice has a much bigger arm.. It's not even debatable IMO.

                  If you have seen them both throw in person you would understand. I don't even know how else to explain it.

                  I shook my head every single time I heard Kirk say that. He kept repeating that McGee had a bigger arm for some reason.

                  I do believe someone on the coaching staff said McGee is a better passer which he is. Kirk probably mistaked it for meaning McGee has a better arm. Who knows. Kirk is a moron though for talking like that on national TV.
                  I have seen them throw, and I do think Juice has a stronger arm. Quite a bit stronger actually. It was an actual question because you being an Illinois fan, would most likely know more about the mindset of your coaches than I would.



                  Originally posted by Jakey
                  WWWWWWWWWTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

                  i am literally gonna kick a baby to death!

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                  • #24
                    From what I've seen, McGee puts more touch on his throws, but Juice has a much better arm and throws the slants and tight throws with much more velocity. Juice is a much better QB than McGee, and I have no idea why they brought him in, especially since he's a FRESHMAN. Zooker must have a love affair for McGee, because he's already lost them 2 games. So much for being "The Closer"...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bama37228 View Post
                      Juice is horrible
                      Thanks for that in-depth analysis Bama. Way to provide facts or just a basic argument to back up your opinion.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JeffSamardzijaIRISH View Post
                        From what I've seen, McGee puts more touch on his throws, but Juice has a much better arm and throws the slants and tight throws with much more velocity. Juice is a much better QB than McGee, and I have no idea why they brought him in, especially since he's a FRESHMAN. Zooker must have a love affair for McGee, because he's already lost them 2 games. So much for being "The Closer"...
                        i think they will learn soon enough you cant do that and be succesfull most of the time.. but hey you know Zook has not been known as the best coach.. let him give them one more recruiting class.. get fired.. hire another coach and be the next florida in a couple years.

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                        • #27
                          Juice has been a LOT better than he was last year, but i think the Oline isnt that good for Illin. Im not a die hard fan so i wouldnt know but that Michigan game made the Oline look ********. I mean they were good at Run Blockin, not so good in the pass protection. That LT has bad feet. I think next year will be his year, but hes still learning, i mean he did get his ass kicked a lot last year and it isnt getting much better, but the defense is. Its good that Illin is back tho

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by HoopsDemon12 View Post
                            let him give them one more recruiting class.. get fired.. hire another coach and be the next florida in a couple years.
                            he just got an extension btw.

                            kinda throws out your theory.

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                            • #29
                              It could be a conspiracy. Ron Zook is mad he was fired from Florida and is proving that Urban Meyer isn't a genius with his two QB system.

                              Michael "Franchise" Young QB Akron Zepplins #10
                              164/281, 58.4% 1956 yards, 10 TD/8 INT
                              50 rushes, 321 yards, 4 TD, 6.4 YPC
                              Record: 7-3

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sniper View Post
                                Thanks for that in-depth analysis Bama. Way to provide facts or just a basic argument to back up your opinion.
                                AH JUICE WILLIAMSsssss

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