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  • #31
    Jesus that Miami team was STACKED!


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    • #32
      01 is pretty much the best college team of the modern era imo.,

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      • #33
        Usc Usc Usc Usc

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        • #34
          Originally posted by heavyduty View Post
          my sig says it all. THE U!
          Love your sig.

          "He's the leader of the next great class of NFL players." - John Elway on Matt Ryan

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          • #35
            Pugnacity, testosterone, truculence, and belligerence.

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            • #36
              Damn, as someone who has only started following in the last couple of years, that Miami team is ridiculous good. I mean they seriously have a team that could win a superbowl there. They have an all pro secondary, a bunch of very good linebackers and given Wilfork is there, they could easily pick a 3-4 if they wanted. Scary good.

              USC has an offense that could score on any team in the NFL, but defensively they arent as good.

              That Miami team makes you say WOW!


              Props to BK on the sig!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by fenikz View Post
                Current Pro's In Bold

                2001 Miami Hurricanes
                1 Daryl Jones WR 5-10 190 Sr Dallas, TX
                2 Willis McGahee RB 6-1 220 Fr Miami, FL
                3 Jason Geathers WR 6-3 215 So Boca Raton, FL
                4 Najeh Davenport RB 6-2 235 Sr Miami, FL
                5 Andre Johnson WR 6-3 220 So Miami, FL
                6 Antrel Rolle CB 6-1 205 Fr Homestead, FL

                7 Ethenic Sands WR 6-0 180 Jr Carol City, FL
                8 Mike Rumph CB 6-2 200 Sr Delray Beach, FL
                9 Kevin Beard WR 6-2 175 So Plantation, FL
                11 Ken Dorsey QB 6-5 200 Jr Orinda, CA i think he is still a pro
                12 Jair Clarke CB 5-11 173 Fr Newport News, VA
                12 Nate Smith WR 6-0 205 So Elizabethtown, PA
                13 Freddie Capshaw P 5-11 180 Jr Rock Springs, WY
                15 Dan Lundy K 6-0 191 So Daytona Beach, FL
                15 Buck Ortega QB 6-5 213 Fr Miami, FL
                16 Todd Sievers K 6-3 215 Jr Ankeny, IA
                17 DJ Williams LB 6-2 235 So Concord, CA
                18 Derrick Crudup QB 6-1 202 Fr Deerfield Beach, FL
                19 Troy Prasek QB 6-2 193 Jr Mims, FL
                20 Edward Reed S 6-0 190 Sr Saint Rose, LA
                21 Jermell Weaver S 6-2 190 So Miami, FL
                22 Kelly Jennings CB 6-0 170 Fr Live Oak, FL
                23 James Lewis CB 5-11 190 Sr Piscataway, NJ
                24 Marcus Maxey CB 6-3 190 Fr Navasota, TX
                25 Alphonso Marshall CB 6-1 180 Fr Clewiston, FL
                26 Sean Taylor CB 6-3 220 Fr Miami, FL
                27 Markese Fitzgerald CB 5-11 180 Sr Saint Petersburg, FL
                28 Clinton Portis RB 5-11 190 Jr Gainesville, FL
                29 James Scott CB 6-2 195 Jr Crescent City, FL
                30 Alex Duk WR 6-2 205 Fr San Diego, CA
                30 Jeff Malley DB 6-1 190 Fr St Petersburg, FL
                30 Jovonny Ward DB 6-0 195 Fr Miami, FL
                31 Phillip Buchanon CB 5-11 175 Jr Lehigh, FL
                32 Frank Gore RB 5-10 190 Fr Coral Gables, FL

                33 Mark Gent K 6-1 203 Fr Fort Lauderdale, FL
                34 Jarrett Payton RB 6-2 205 So Arlington, IL
                35 Quadtrine Hill RB 6-2 210 Fr Sunrise, FL
                36 Maurice Sikes CB 5-11 194 So Miami, FL
                37 Jean Leone DB 6-0 170 Fr Miami, FL
                38 Carl Walker CB 6-3 190 So Jacksonville, FL
                39 LaVaar Scott LB 6-3 253 Jr Sebring, FL
                40 Kyle Cobia RB 6-2 231 Fr Lakeland, FL
                41 Frank Bayless FB 6-0 240 So Akron, OH
                43 Jarvis Gray DT 5-10 264 So Hawthorne, FL
                44 Leon Williams LB 6-4 220 Fr Brooklyn, NY
                45 Howard Clark LB 6-1 220 Jr Pennsauken, NJ
                46 Michael Langley CB 6-0 188 Fr Machipongo, VA
                47 Ken Dangerfiel LB 6-2 225 Jr Patterson, LA
                48 Chris Campbell LB 6-2 225 Sr Mount Pleasant, TX
                49 Darrell McClover LB 6-2 215 So Coconut Creek, FL
                50 Roger McIntosh LB 6-3 220 Fr Gaffney, SC
                51 Jonathan Vilma LB 6-2 215 So Coral Gables, FL

                52 Steve Adzima OL 6-2 255 Fr Wallington, NJ
                52 Tariq Vlaun OL 6-2 300 So Houston, TX
                53 James Sikora G 6-5 260 So Marathon, FL
                54 Alex Garcia OL 6-1 275 Fr Miami, FL
                55 Jamal Green DE 6-3 257 Jr Camden, NJ
                56 Santonio Thomas DE 6-4 296 So South Bay, FL
                57 Javon Nanton LB 6-2 215 Fr Miami, FL
                58 Jerrell Weaver LB 6-3 210 So Miami, FL
                59 Brad Kunz G 6-7 315 Fr Carlyle, IL
                60 Vernon Carey T 6-5 363 So Miami, FL
                61 Toney Tella G 6-5 265 Fr Houston, TX
                62 Chris Harvey S 6-3 303 So Accoville, WV
                63 Scott Puckett G 6-3 283 Sr Duncanville, TX
                64 Rashad Butler G 6-5 290 Fr Palm Beach Gardens, FL
                65 Martin Bibla T 6-4 300 Sr Mountain Top, PA
                66 Brett Romberg G 6-3 290 Jr Windsor,
                67 Joe McGrath T 6-5 285 So Moose Jaw,
                68 Joe Fantigrass T 6-4 270 Jr Fort Lauderdale, FL
                69 Kyle Morgan DL 6-4 245 Fr San Francisco, CA
                70 Joel Rodriguez G 6-3 275 Fr Miami, FL
                71 Jim Wilson G 6-5 245 Jr Hollywood, FL
                72 Ed Wilkins T 6-4 318 Jr Plainfield, NJ
                73 Joaquin Gonzalez G 6-5 290 Sr Miami, FL
                74 Sherko Haji-Rasou T 6-6 326 Jr Toronto,
                75 Vince Wilfork DE 6-2 338 Fr Lantana, FL
                76 Carlos Joseph G 6-6 322 So Miami, FL
                77 Chris Myers G 6-5 280 Fr Miami, FL
                78 Bryant McKinnie G 6-9 330 Sr Woodbury, NJ
                79 Robert Bergman OL 6-5 275 Fr Bakersfield, CA
                80 Robert Williams TE 6-4 240 Sr Dallas, TX
                81 Kellen Winslow WR 6-5 210 Fr San Diego, CA
                82 David Williams TE 6-3 230 Fr Miami, FL
                83 Aaron Greeno TE 6-4 241 So Denver, CO
                84 Roscoe Parrish WR 5-9 165 Fr Miami, FL
                85 Ennis Crafton TE 6-3 225 Jr Cypress Creek, FL
                86 Brandon Sebald TE 6-6 240 Fr Accord, NY
                87 Kevin Everett TE 6-5 235 Fr Port Arthur, TX
                88 Jeremy Shockey TE 6-6 236 Jr Ada, OK
                90 Thomas Carroll DE 6-5 220 Fr Lakewood, NJ
                91 Matt Walters DT 6-5 260 Jr Melbourne, FL
                92 Orien Harris DE 6-4 280 Fr Newark, DE
                93 John Square DE 6-5 203 Fr Houston, TX
                94 William Joseph DE 6-5 290 Jr Miami, FL
                95 Jerome McDougle DE 6-4 270 Jr Pompano, FL
                96 Miguel Robede DE 6-5 261 Fr Quebec, PQ
                97 Larry Anderson DT 6-4 260 So Kissimmee, FL
                98 Cornelius Green DE 6-4 250 Sr Kilgore, TX
                99 Andrew Williams DE 6-4 260 Jr Tampa, FL


                im sure i missed some but damn thats alot of pros on 1 team
                Ya, but 9 of them are freshmen and last I looked only 1 RB can carry a ball. I think USC wins in a walk, their 2004 team was the greastest offensive machine ever in college football and their defense was good enough to hold Miami's offense in check. You still need a great QB to beat great teams and Miami's QB is not in Leinart's class.
                And proud of it!!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Iamcanadian View Post
                  Ya, but 9 of them are freshmen and last I looked only 1 RB can carry a ball.
                  I was actually just going to point that out. I count ten freshmen and five sophomores on that team. Unless I am overlooking someone, of all those freshmen, only Sean Taylor received significant playing time. He wasn't even a starter. If I remember correctly, Daryl Jones was Miami's #1 receiver going into the year. Guys like Frank Gore and Kellen Winslow really didn't contribute all that much. Sure, it is an impressive roster, but about half of those guys didn't see the field until 2002 or 2003. With that being said, I think Miami had just enough to get by USC.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Iamcanadian View Post
                    Ya, but 9 of them are freshmen and last I looked only 1 RB can carry a ball. I think USC wins in a walk, their 2004 team was the greastest offensive machine ever in college football and their defense was good enough to hold Miami's offense in check. You still need a great QB to beat great teams and Miami's QB is not in Leinart's class.
                    You're acting like Dorsey didn't go to two Heisman ceremonies. He may not be much in the pros but he certainly got the job done when he was in Miami. UM's offensive line was dominant, add in Johnson, Shockey, Portis and Dorsey and that is a scary offense. The defense was just as stacked.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Iamcanadian View Post
                      Ya, but 9 of them are freshmen and last I looked only 1 RB can carry a ball. I think USC wins in a walk, their 2004 team was the greastest offensive machine ever in college football and their defense was good enough to hold Miami's offense in check. You still need a great QB to beat great teams and Miami's QB is not in Leinart's class.


                      Dorsey was one of the best college QBs ever. I'am going to take it that you haven't followed college football very long since you made that statement.


                      Reggie/Lendale would not have been able to go anywhere or juked anyone with that defence. Ed Reed, Vilma and DJ..... on top of that look how many 1st day picks they had amongst the Dline... good luck
                      Miami would have shut down the run game of USC and then just pounded the ball behind that amazing Oline. USC did not have the defence to even come close to beating a team of Miami's calibre.


                      The only team In the last 15 years that think that could give the 01 Canes a run for their money would be the 95' huskers.
                      Last edited by energizerbunny; 03-15-2007, 07:09 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Leinart goes down as one of the greatest college QB's ever too, his record is near identical to Dorsey.

                        Miami's defense was ridiculously good, but USC's defense was also deceptively good that year.

                        The matchup comes down to coaching imo. I think that's where Norm Chow may be able to find something somewhere.

                        Talentwise, Miami easily. But in an actual game with the coaching staffs, I am inclined to give USC a slight edge.

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                        • #42
                          Miami!!!!!

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                          • #43
                            i dont know how usc's defense was able to stop so many teams, their corners, scott ware and justin wyatt sucked.

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                            • #44
                              Too much is often made of who made it in the pros and what not. Certainly, that helps, but we are comparing the collegiate teams. For me, it would've come down to the lines. As good as Shaun Cody and Mike Patterson were, I think Romberg, Bibla and company would've controlled them well enough, and McKinnie was a dominant tackle. In short, I think Dorsey would've been protected. That USC DL had spurts, but it wasn't a dominant unit. For a collegiate unit, that Miami group was very, very good, and consistent as well. I think they would've opened holes for Clinton Portis, and don't forget about Najeh Davenport, who would've been a load to handle. The USC secondary wasn't too great either. Who do they double up - Shockey or Andre Johnson?

                              Defensively, that Canes unit was real good. It's been 6 years now, and people might forget. But with Williams/McDougle coming off the edges, and William Joseph (NFL flop, but real good that year inside for them), they could cause trouble, along with Wilfork. The USC OL was good ... but could they handle that type of talent? I'm not sure they faced any unit that good all year long. The linebackers of Miami were athletic, fast, and dominant, with DJ and Jonathan Vilma. That secondary was special. Rumph was a NFL bust, but playing off of Buchanon and Reed, he was good. And the other two were real good collegians.

                              It would've been a great game. It's easy to look at Ken Dorsey and say "Matt Leinart vs. Ken Dorsey ... ", but let's not forget what a good collegiate QB Ken Dorsey was, able to utilize all his weapons. I just don't think the USC defense would be able to do enough to stop the Miami offense consistently, whereas the Miami defense was big, fast, and strong, and I think they would've neutralized the USC squad just enough. If I had to pick a score, I would've guessed (sure ... I know this is shooting myself in the foot and inviting people to blast me) - 27-20, Canes.

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                              • #45
                                looking at the USC made me wonder, where is TOm "The Bomb" Malone now? I remember he almost declared early after they won the NC.

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